Bronquote:Is Ritual Child Abuse Just a Hoax?
By Victoria Hardy
February 15, 2008
Do we only see what we want to see? Or do we only see what we are shown? Many admit to knowing there is both good and evil on this earth, but it appears we feel that evil exists only in individuals or small pockets of like-minded people, never can we conceive, it seems, that evil may be pervasive, systematic and organized. I know, in this day and age, the debate about evil is long, does it exist and what constitutes evil versus lifestyle choice. I´ve always figured in the end it is only my own actions I will have to be responsible for, so I try not to judge others, but I have to state that I find the ritual torture, molestation and often, murder of children to rest fully in the realm of evil.
According to the reports from the US Department of Justice 797,500 children (18 and younger) were reported missing in a one year period studied, resulting in an average of 2,185 being reported missing each day. National Center for Missing & Exploited Children This is an shockingly high number, considering those numbers only represent the United States and only the children that are reported missing, not the throwaway kids that exist in every town and city across America. So where are all these children going?
It seems in the 1980s we received a few clues from the mainstream media about what may be happening, but the stories were called hoaxes and disappeared from view, dismissed and supposedly debunked. Where this sordid tale begins and ends is still a mystery for me, but I will start with the disappearance of Johnny Gosch on Sept. 5, 1982, the country´s first milk carton kid. Johnny was a good-looking 12 year-old boy when he disappeared from his route delivering the Des Moines Register Sunday paper. At the time of his disappearance police did not immediately begin searching for him and waited a 72-hour window before considering him officially missing.
Ms. Gosch maintains that Johnny was taken as part of a huge and well-organized human trafficking ring used for the purpose of satisfying pedophiles for profit. In recent years she has received photographs in the mail, made at the time of Johnny´s disappearance, of he and other boys tied and gagged. She has had contact with Johnny only once since he was kidnapped, when, as an adult, he turned up on her doorstep late one night and explained that he was involved in something too deep and dangerous to ever escape. She is the author of the book, "Why Johnny Can´t Come Home". Johnny Gosch Foundation
In 1984, a woman accused employees of the McMartin Preschool of molesting her young son when he came home bleeding from his rectum, a doctor verified that the child had been sodomized and thus became the longest criminal trial in American history. The story made headlines for years, as hundreds of preschool attendees came forward with stories of satanic ritual sexual abuse, animal mutilations and tunnels under the school which whisked the kids off to unknown locations to participate in sex with adults. Shock and outrage swept the country, but the defendants maintained their innocence throughout the long years of investigation, hearings and trials. Eventually, charges against all defendants were dropped, except for the son of the owner, Ray Buckley and after two juries deadlocked, he was released.
We, across America, relaxed knowing that justice was served and that no satanic, occult or sexual rituals had occurred and many believed that the McMartin family deserved an apology, despite the claims of hundreds of children who had stepped forward. The newspapers declared it was a witch hunt brought on by mass hysteria, many books and documentaries were made siding with the McMartin family and headlines like "Indict the Children, Jail the Parents" appeared across the country, including The Wall Street Journal. Although a task force was created, little media attention was given to the fact that the McMartin Preschool was not the only school in the area under investigation. 7th Fire
During the investigation, 460 children reported being sexually abused and 80% showed physical symptoms including vaginal and rectal scarring, anal bleeding and sexually transmitted chlamydia infections. The children´s stories were remarkably similar concerning the nature, location and perpetrators of the abuse. Although the media held our attention, the public was never informed that teenagers and twenty-year-olds, former students of McMartin´s Preschool, had also come forward confirming the claims of the children, but were not allowed to testify due to the statute of limitations. The judge in the case ruled that the children (aged 2 to 11) could not testify on closed circuit television, but had to face the attorneys and face them they did, each child was grilled by all the defense attorneys, one after another. And as the parents of the children next in line watched, they decided pull their kids from the proceedings.
Nor was it brought to the public´s attention that a couple key witnesses died suspicious deaths before they could testify. Judy Johnson, the first parent to raise concerns of molestation was declared a paranoid schizophrenic by the media, although she had no such medical diagnosis and was later found naked and sprawled out in her kitchen floor, dead of alcohol poisoning. And Paul Bynum, a prosecution witness and private detective hired by the defense was found dead of a single gunshot wound the morning he was scheduled to testify. His death was ruled a suicide, although friends and family declared it was not something he would do. McMartin Preschool Revisited
"Neither side is going to like what I have to say," Bynum told a reporter before he died. Bynum wanted to know how his citation books, the official police records kept from his time as a detective, had turned up in Ray Buckley´s desk when he was arrested for molestation. And he could corroborate a key point in the children´s testimonies. The children had stated their attackers killed turtles and other small animals to scare them into silence and Bynum, while retained by the defense, found numerous turtle shells and other small animal bones buried in the yard of the preschool.
According to the editor of the Los Angeles Times, Noel Greenwood, the widespread media coverage was "a mean-spirited campaign" organized to discredit the kids and their therapists. Besides the ridicule the media heaped on Judy Johnson before her death, they also belittled the children´s claims, deeming the idea of a tunnel under the preschool, impossible. But when the parents hired an independent excavation team and that team found the back-filled tunnel system, the media issued one short paragraph mentioning "evidence" of a tunnel and promptly quit covering the story. The discovery of the often-ridiculed tunnel was also not admitted into evidence at trial due to a myriad of reasons.
Due to the fact that the preschool had recently changed hands and was set for demolition, the excavation team was given little time to complete the dig, but discovered that tunnels ran under several of the classrooms and uncovered the larger "secret room" that the children had described. An additional tunnel was also discovered leading out from under the preschool, to the triplex apartment next door and coming up into a bathroom under a moveable tub. Archaeological Investigations of the McMartin Preschool
In a interview on L.A.´s Pacifica Radio, Jackie MacGauley, mother of a McMartin student, said, "It was interesting because a lot of the child development specialists, psychiatrists and therapists across the country thought that it was some psychological phenomenon that the kids would talk about tunnels. Somehow that idea got 'planted,' and they had all these theories as to why all the kids would talk about something like this. It obviously couldn't be true. And the district attorney at the time just flatly did not believe it, and really didn't want to look." History now states that the McMartin Preschool ritual abuse case was nothing more than a hoax perpetrated by deceitful therapists, lying children and mass hysteria. And interestingly enough, of the hundreds of children who came forward and were interviewed, only one has recanted his story.
In 1988, Franklin Credit Union in Omaha, Nebraska was raided and upon examining the books it was found that close to 40 million dollars was missing. The credit union was run by Larry King (not the talk show host), who at the time was a fast moving Republican star and sang at the Republican conventions in 1984 and 1988. Not only did investigators discover falsified books, they also found a large cache of child pornography. Due to newsprint publicity (television news didn´t touch this event), eighty children came forward with stories of ritual sexual abuse by high-powered community and political leaders. The Boys Town School featured prominently in the claims and was said to be a hunting ground for rich and powerful pedophiles. As the strands of this scandal reached all the way to Washington DC, John DeCamp, former US Republican senator, was sent to disprove the case, the results of his investigation and an attempt to save his life, after many threats, is the book, "The Franklin Cover-Up: Child Abuse, Satanism and Murder in Nebraska". Alex Jones interview with John DeCamp
As the witnesses came forward stories of children being transported across the country to exclusive parties where they were molested, auctioned off and even murdered came to light. At these events where orgies, satanic rituals and endless drugs were available many photographs and videos were made, later to be used for blackmail, to ensure silence or for profit. John DeCamp had his doubts when he began investigating the allegations, the claims seemed too wild to be true, but then he met one of the victims, Paul Bonacci, who had kept a very detailed journal from the time he was 12-years old.
Bonacci´s diary contained information about locations, events and named high powered leaders, not just politicians but heads of banking, publishing and from the entertainment field. As Bonacci described a particular Washington party, DeCamp was amazed; he had attended the same party as a senator and remembered that children had been present at the event. Of course, DeCamp didn´t witness any of the ritual abuses described, because those, Bonacci explained, happened after the party, when the crowd had slimmed down considerably.
In 1989, the front page of The Washington Times screamed a shocking headline, "Homosexual Prostitution Inquiry Ensnares VIPs with Reagan, Bush" the subtitle states, " ´Call boys´ took midnight tour of the White House". The Times confirmed that Washington lobbyist Craig J. Spence had arranged for four midnight tours of the White House for young boys. The Law Party Paul Bonacci stated he had been on two of those tours and was able to describe rooms in the White House that are not typically seen by the public. Bonacci clarified that he did not have sex in the White House, but afterwards he was taken to party and forced to have sex with adults. Craig J. Spence was later found dead, the death was ruled a suicide.
Gary Caradori, an investigator for the Nebraska State legislature, met with Russell Nelson, a former photographer for Larry King, in Chicago. Nelson handed over video and photographic evidence to support the claims of ritual abuse, but on the return trip home Caradori´s plane disintegrated in air killing both he and his 8 year-old son. A local deputy, the first on the scene, claimed that the crash site was littered with photos of child pornography, but soon federal agents appeared and retrieved all the evidence, warning the deputy to keep his mouth shut. The deputy had trouble keeping quiet about the strange events until he had a head on collision several months later, he survived, although severely injured, his wife did not. The Gunderson Report
Four victims eventually agreed to testify, Paul Bonacci, Alisha Owens, Troy Boner and Danny King. Danny King, often described as "pathetic" he was so broken by the abuse, recanted his story and Troy Boner also recanted after his brother was found dead, it was ruled suicide after it was decided the boy had lost a game of Russian roulette. Boner insisted his brother was afraid of guns and never would have touched one, he also confided to friends that he had to "lie or die". After recanting before the grand jury he disappeared, it is rumored that he later turned up in a mental institution in 2003, was sedated and found dead the next morning.
Alisha Owens did not recant, despite the fact that her brother was also found dead by yet another suicide. Due to Owens testimony that she had sex with the chief of police at 14-years old, as well as other allegations, she was convicted of perjury and sentenced to 9-27 years. The grand jury threw out all allegations of child abuse and declared the charges "a carefully crafted hoax...scripted by a person or persons with considerable knowledge of the people and institutions of Omaha". No conspirator was ever named and no further investigations were undertaken. Wikipedia
During Owens´ imprisonment, which began in 1991, she was kept in solitary confinement longer that any other woman in the history of the State of Nebraska. Owens was released on parole in 1997, but then the show "Inside Edition" aired an episode discussing the idea that Johnny Gosch may still be alive and she was picked up a week later, she was informed she had to complete her sentence in jail. During pre-trial interviews, Owens stated that she had seen Gosch, as well as several boys from Boys Town, at the exclusive parties where she and others had been abused. Owens was released in 2000 and said she only wants to lead a "normal" life.
Larry King was convicted of embezzlement and sentenced to a 15-year prison sentence. In 1999, Bonacci sued King in civil suit in which he alleged child abuse, mind control, satanic ritual abuse and sexual abuse. Bonacci was awarded a $1 million dollar default judgment because King did not appear to defend the allegations. All told, 14 people connected with the Franklin cover up have died, including DeCamp´s friend and mentor, William Colby, former CIA director, who was discovered floating in a pond in 1996.
In 1993 the Discovery Channel contracted a British documentary team to investigate the story, Yorkshire Television spent 10 months in Nebraska interviewing witnesses and reviewing taped testimonies. The documentary, Conspiracy of Silence, was slated for air in 1994 and was listed in the TV Guide, but it was never shown. It is said that influential and connected people put pressure on the cable industry, fully reimbursing the production company and the Discovery Channel and that all copies were destroyed. Luckily, an unfinished version later turned up on John DeCamp´s doorstep. Conspiracy of Silence
And in a stranger twist of an already strange story, a young reporter appeared in White House briefings in 2003 going by the name Jeff Gannon, he caught the attention of the other reporters for the "soft" questions he asked the president or his press secretary. Controversy was stirred when it was discovered that the name Jeff Gannon was a secret service approved alias for James Guckert, who had been granted remarkable access to the White House. Gannon/Guckert claimed to be a reporter for Talon News, but at the time he made his first appearance in the briefings, he had never published a single article. The Raw Story
It quickly came to light that Gannon/Guckert advertised himself on pornographic gay websites as an escort charging $200 an hour. Washington Post And then rumor and speculations began flying on the Internet that Gannon/Guckert was really kidnap victim Johnny Gosch. Whether or not Gannon is actually Gosch, no one seems to know, but I understand that Gannon has refused DNA testing.
Both Gannon and his business partner, Bobby Eberle, owned the now defunct and admittedly partisan Talon News. And in another coincidence, a couple named Eberle were some of the most outspoken defenders of the McMartin family during the preschool scandal. They have published two books, "The Politics of Child Abuse", about false allegations of child abuse in day care facilities, in 1986 and "The Abuse of Innocence", supporting the McMartin family, in 1996. Since the publication of the books the Eberles are considered experts in the field of childhood sexual abuse. Interestingly enough, the Eberles have also published many hard and soft-core pornographic magazines. Excerpt from 1988 Ms. Magazine In a book review of "The Abuse of Innocence", a writer for the Tampa Tribune stated, "For a period of time during the 70s, Paul and Shirley Eberle were the most prolific publishers of child pornography in the United States." Wikipedia Whether or not these Eberles are related, I have no idea, but if not, it sure is a curious coincidence.
There you have it, the tip of a very complex and dangerous mystery. So do we choose not to see evil in our society or does the media simply do a fine job in hiding the ugliness from us? Dozens of some of the most powerful people in America were accused and identified in these cases and never charged with a single crime. Hundreds of children told the same or very similar stories, displayed physical and emotional symptoms and evidence was presented confirming their claims, yet somehow, the courts and the public decided they were all lying. We want to believe that the pedophile is the lone stranger that we can warn our children about, we want to believe the abductions and molestations of our youth are just disturbing, isolated events, but the truth is, it is a huge and lucrative business.
If we choose to believe what is written in this article and within the many links provided, many will assume that the scandals from Nebraska and California could never happen in their town, in their neighborhood or with their children, but how do we really know? The pedophile, child pornography and human trafficking networks are organized by well connected people, working in unison with other seemingly upstanding community leaders and backed by more money and resources than most of us, struggling to pay our bills month to month, can imagine.
Are we forgetting that just recently Mark Foley, who was once considered a crusader for abused and exploited kids, was caught propositioning and writing sexually tinged emails to teenage pages? Are we forgetting the Catholic Church scandals? The truth that no one wants to accept and the media makes easy to ignore, is that this is happening all across our country, remember those 2,185 children that disappear everyday? And in the McMartin and Franklin cases, the children were mostly just used, threatened, fondled, raped, filmed, brain washed and returned to their homes and most parents had no clue. I think it is time we begin looking at the real evils in this world and learn to recognize it for what is it, because if we cannot or refuse to see evil, then how can we protect our children and ourselves?
Ook wil ik je een kopie van het dagboek van Paul Bonacci niet onthouden:quote:De veertienjarige Paul A. Bonacci, die al sinds enkele jaren regelmatig door de invloedrijke republikeinse politicus Larry E. King als kind-prostitué wordt meegesleept naar sex-feesten van King’s vele politieke connecties, wordt in juli 1984 samen met een andere jongen (Nicholas) per privé-vliegtuig en auto naar een donker bos gebracht. De lokatie was in de buurt van San Fransico, er groeiden grote woudreuzen, en er stond een gigantisch beeld van een met mos bedekte uil. Pas vele jaren nadat Bonacci zijn verhaal deed werd duidelijk dat het hier om de Bohemian Grove moest gaan.
In de Grove aangekomen werd een derde ventje, volledig naakt, uit een kooi gehaald, waarna de drie jongens werden gedwongen tot de meest ziekelijke vormen van sex, voor een lopende filmcamera. Toen dit ongeveer een half uur aan de gang was verscheen een man ten tonele die Bonacci en Nicholas begon te slaan en ze ruw aan de kant smeet, om vervolgens de derde jongen tot bloedens toe anaal te verkrachten. Daarna werd, onder het oog van de camera, de jongen dwars door zijn hoofd geschoten. De twee nog levende jongen werden vervolgens gedwongen tot bizarre sexuele handelingen met het lijk.
Nog diezelfde avond werd de video voor een gezelschap mannen vertoond, waarbij Paul Bonacci en Nicholas als speeltjes werden doorgegeven van de een naar de ander.
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Niet alle 2185 kinderen per dag zijn slachtoffer van dit soort praktijken hoor, godzijdank. Een deel zijn 'normale' zaken zoals verdwaalde kinderen, ontvoeringen in de persoonlijke sfeer maar helaas zit er dus ook een deel bij die wel dit soort afschuwelijke zaken nog steeds meemaakt. Elke dag.quote:Op vrijdag 22 februari 2008 00:35 schreef Ryan3 het volgende:
Daar zou toch een vrij behoorlijke logistiek en organisatie achter moeten zitten dan. 2185 kinderen per dag.
Hoeveel zijn het er dan per dag?quote:Op vrijdag 22 februari 2008 02:19 schreef jogy het volgende:
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Niet alle 2185 kinderen per dag zijn slachtoffer van dit soort praktijken hoor, godzijdank. Een deel zijn 'normale' zaken zoals verdwaalde kinderen, ontvoeringen in de persoonlijke sfeer maar helaas zit er dus ook een deel bij die wel dit soort afschuwelijke zaken nog steeds meemaakt. Elke dag.
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Dat is dus onbekend, Maar ook wat Dago net zei, ookal zijn het er 700 per dag, dan nog is het bizar veel. Er is iets intens smerigs aan de gang. Een beerput die niet veel mensen willen aanschouwen denk ik.quote:
Ja, maar ik bedoel, is het dan nog wel waar eigenlijk? Dat soort info doet bij mij enige twijfel naar boven komen.quote:Op vrijdag 22 februari 2008 02:38 schreef jogy het volgende:
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Dat is dus onbekend, Maar ook wat Dago net zei, ookal zijn het er 700 per dag, dan nog is het bizar veel. Er is iets intens smerigs aan de gang. Een beerput die niet veel mensen willen aanschouwen denk ik.
Nee, er worden er 2185 ( gemiddeld ) per dag gemeld per dag volgens een ander rapport van dat stuk, hoe groot het daadwerkelijke misbruikte deel is, tja.quote:Op vrijdag 22 februari 2008 02:35 schreef Ryan3 het volgende:
Als het er 700 zijn dan is TT misleidend.
Maar dan nog idd, absurd veel; daar zit een joekel van een organisatie achter wil je dat voor elkaar krijgen dag-in dag-uit, weekends meegerekend. Dat zijn niet zo maar een paar vrijwilligertjes. .
Lees het stuk zelf, volg de linkjes en trek je eigen conclusie.quote:Op vrijdag 22 februari 2008 02:40 schreef Ryan3 het volgende:
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Ja, maar ik bedoel, is het dan nog wel waar eigenlijk? Dat soort info doet bij mij enige twijfel naar boven komen.
Ik heb delen gelezen, van de week lees ik alles. Ik werd in eerste instantie gepakt door dat aantal van 2185. Dat lijkt me, als je alle kinderen die tijdelijk als gemist worden opgegeven ervan aftrekt, nog steeds bizar veel. Zoveel dat het vrij onrealistisch is, vanwege de logistiek en organisatie die er achter zit. Een dergelijke organisatie kun je niet in operatie hebben zonder dat werkelijk duizenden mensen daarvan op de hoogte zijn.quote:Op vrijdag 22 februari 2008 02:42 schreef jogy het volgende:
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Lees het stuk zelf, volg de linkjes en trek je eigen conclusie.
Uit de PDF lees je dat er idd 700.000 meldingen zijn, met daaronder wat specificaties over ontvoeringen door familie (200.000+) en niet-familie (50000+).quote:Op vrijdag 22 februari 2008 02:35 schreef Ryan3 het volgende:
Als het er 700 zijn dan is TT misleidend.
Maar dan nog idd, absurd veel; daar zit een joekel van een organisatie achter wil je dat voor elkaar krijgen dag-in dag-uit, weekends meegerekend. Dat zijn niet zo maar een paar vrijwilligertjes. .
Tja, raar he Ryan. Zelfs al is het geen organisatie die erachter zit dan zou het land op z'n kop horen te staan bij 700 ontvoeringen per dag. Zoals ik al zei, dat zijn er omgerekend naar Nederland 38 per dag, elke dag.quote:Op vrijdag 22 februari 2008 02:57 schreef Ryan3 het volgende:
Als je kijkt naar DuTroux, dan waren dat 2 mensen, die hoeveel kinderen? ontvoerden en een land van 10 miljoen op z'n kop zetten?
Maar in de VS (weliswaar 30x zoveel inwoners) daar is een organisatie bezig om 700 kinderen per dag te ontvoeren en nog staat het land niet op z'n kop?
Maar wel veel media-aandacht voor een meisje dat op Aruba verdwenen is in 2005?
Ja, en dus heb ik enige twijfel, op voorhand.quote:Op vrijdag 22 februari 2008 03:02 schreef Dagonet het volgende:
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Tja, raar he Ryan. Zelfs al is het geen organisatie die erachter zit dan zou het land op z'n kop horen te staan bij 700 ontvoeringen per dag. Zoals ik al zei, dat zijn er omgerekend naar Nederland 38 per dag, elke dag.
Het land zou in paniek zijn, kinderen zouden niet meer de straat op mogen en het leger zou uitrukken om de grenzen dicht te gooien.
Nu hoeven die 700 natuurlijk niet allemaal door één organisatie te zijn ontvoerd, maar zelfs een percentage daarvan zou ongelooflijk zijn.
Titel aangepast naar iets algemeners.quote:Op vrijdag 22 februari 2008 20:04 schreef ChOas het volgende:
Moet iig de 2185 in de TT niet aangepast worden naar 'relatief veel' ?
dat van de getuigen wist ik nietquote:Op zaterdag 23 februari 2008 02:57 schreef Red1986 het volgende:
ik vind persoonlijk de gelijkenissen met de Dutroux zaak ergggg groot
Hij is achterop een file geknald, weinig verdachts aan...quote:Op zaterdag 23 februari 2008 11:30 schreef Kickstart het volgende:
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Maarten van Traa ontdekte dat er banden bestonden tussen de IRT-affaire en enkele hoge ambtenaren en hun seksuele voorkeur. Hij leeft niet meer. Hij stierf onder verdachte omstandigheden.
Er zijn simpelere manieren om iemand het loodje te laten leggen dan een soort van tijdbom-remleiding-doorsnijder te maken, die pas boven een bepaalde snelheid (snelweg) in werking treedt..quote:Op zaterdag 23 februari 2008 12:43 schreef vosss het volgende:
Wel als de remmen het ineens niet meer deden
Natuurlijk kunnen we wel weer aannemen dat derhalve Benk Korthals ook in het complot zat. .quote:‘Er was –zeg ik heel eerlijk- genoeg aanleiding om te vermoeden dat er meer achter zat.’ Korthals gelastte vervolgens een hernieuwd onderzoek. ‘Daarbij is alles opnieuw grondig nagelopen. Ik heb zelf het hele politierapport gespeld. De enige conclusie is: het is gewoon een ongeluk geweest. Daar ben ik van overtuigd.’ Dan, opeens met opmerkelijke nadruk: ‘Realiseer u goed dat Maarten één van mijn allerbeste vrienden was. Ik zou niet rusten als ik ook maar een half procentje twijfel voelde.’
Het zal niet het eerste complot zijn waar hij in verwikkeld was.quote:Op zaterdag 23 februari 2008 13:39 schreef Ryan3 het volgende:
Het ongeluk van Van Traa is 2 x onderzocht. Toenmalig justitie minister Benk korthals:
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Natuurlijk kunnen we wel weer aannemen dat derhalve Benk Korthals ook in het complot zat. .
Simpelweg 'n leugenaar.quote:Ook de schikking bij de Schipholspoortunnel-zaak kwam aan de orde; de schikking in deze zaak leidde in november 2001 tot boze reacties in de Tweede Kamer. Destijds verklaarde toenmalig minister van Justitie Korthals niet van de schikking geweten te hebben. Tijdens het verhoor door de enquêtecommissie verklaarde Korthals, op dat moment minister van Defensie, dat het feit dat sprake was van een schikking toch voor het debat in de Tweede Kamer aan hem was medegedeeld.
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Ik durf ook niet te klikken...quote:Op zaterdag 23 februari 2008 12:51 schreef Coastertommm het volgende:
Ik ben erg benieuwd naar het verhaal in de OP, als ik de reacties zo zie, zo maar eens lezen.
Wat is er te zien op die foto's? Ik wil denk ik niet klikken, maar ben wel nieuwsgierig.
Ja, er zijn natuurlijk plegers van dit soort daden, die met elkaar in samenspanning werken, dat is ook bewezen; maar naar mate het complot groter en groter wordt voorgesteld, neigen dit soort zaken de officiële geschiedenis van heel veel andere zaken ook te herschrijven. In het Nederlandse geval zie ik linkjes met de Deventermoordzaak, zelfs Bouterse zou door Demmink geadviseerd en geholpen zijn (via luitenant-kolonel Valk), Maarten van Traa dus, de moord op de kinderarts Joyce Labruyere, justitie minister Korthals etc. etc.quote:Op zaterdag 23 februari 2008 13:56 schreef Leandra het volgende:
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Ik durf ook niet te klikken...
En tsja... ik denk dat er op meerdere plekken groepen mensen zijn die misbruik van kinderen maken, alleen het conspiracy model zoals in de OP geschetst gaat me een beetje te ver, het zou natuurlijk wel zo kunnen zijn dat er groepen zijn waarvan bepaalde mensen ook weer in andere groepen zitten en dat deze cirkels elkaar daardoor overlappen, maar dat maakt nog niet dat het 1 grote cirkel is.
quote:Op zaterdag 23 februari 2008 12:51 schreef Coastertommm het volgende:
Wat is er te zien op die foto's? Ik wil denk ik niet klikken, maar ben wel nieuwsgierig.
quote:Op zaterdag 23 februari 2008 13:56 schreef Leandra het volgende:
Ik durf ook niet te klikken...
Ik heb ze achter links geplaatst omdat ze vooral erg confronterend zijn, De 1,9&10 zijn foto's vast vastgebonden jongetjes die de moeder van Johnny Gosh verkregen heeft, waaronder ook foto's van haar eigen zoon, foto 2 t/m 8 zijn frames uit een film die ze in handen kreeg waarop een jongetje vastligt met mannen in gewaden eromheen, zoals ze zelf op haar site schrijft zijn dit de minst erge, de anderen zijn te expliciet om op haar site plaatsen maar alleen deze 7 zijn al verontrustend genoegquote:Op zaterdag 23 februari 2008 14:10 schreef Coastertommm het volgende:
En die foto's, kan iemand nog uitleggen wat erop staat?
quote:Op zaterdag 23 februari 2008 02:57 schreef Red1986 het volgende:
hele stuk gelezen..paar jaar terug die conspiracy of silence eens gezien..erge shit..
ik vind persoonlijk de gelijkenissen met de Dutroux zaak ergggg groot
ook in die zaak van getuigen volgens mij 8 die opeens doodwaren..ook daar zaten iemand tussen die opbelde naar politie ik kom eraan verklaring afleggen, en onder de tram kwam..
politieagent die zelfmoord pleegde..
man die meer wist over zaken stierf aan hartaanval of iets dergelijks..vrouw geloofde het niet, kreeg bewijs dat het het idd niet was, en werd niet lang later verbrand gevonden op d'r matras..
eentje uit de rivier gevist..
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ook daar komt dat terug van dat chanteren van politici door compromitterende foto's maken met kinderen en dergelijke..
Dutroux is de zondebok in die zaak, die ronselde kinderen voor hoge gasten via Nihoul, die allerlei contacten had hogerop..en organiseerde de "roze balletten"..
quote:Beyond the Dutroux Affair
Ever since the Dutroux affair broke in August 1996, there have been rumors that its central character was part of a wider network of child abusers. Some might remember the video tapes that were allegedly found in Dutroux's houses and about which nothing was heard anymore (this actually was an unfounded rumor); others might remember statements from Dutroux about being a "pawn" in a network protected by police and justice officials. However, these reports are not even the tip of the iceberg of what has actually been going on in Belgium.
To really gain some understanding of what the Dutroux affair was all about, we need to take a step back and see all the other aspects which at least in the early years made up the Dutroux investigation. It will soon become obvious that by early 1997, Dutroux had become almost a mere footnote in a scandal that really had begun to threaten the very existence of Belgium. Besides a whole range of petty criminals, secret investigations were also being opened against an ever increasing amount of politicians, bankers, police officers and magistrates.
It was only after a number of strategic changes in the investigative chain of command had been made that a beginning could be made with shutting down all the inconvenient parallel investigations which had sprung up in the weeks and months after Dutroux had been arrested. The cooperation of the vast majority of the media in this cover up has been crucial.
1) In this article you can find all the names of the alleged abusers which had to be taken out of mainstream books and publications to avoid massive libel suits.
2) A leaked official document from the Dutroux investigation has been included with this article, leaving no doubt these names have actually been mentioned (often repeatedly).
Bron: http://www.pehi.eu/index.html
Volledig artikel: http://www.pehi.eu/dutrou(...)e_Dutroux_affair.htm
quote:Op zaterdag 23 februari 2008 11:30 schreef Kickstart het volgende:
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dat van de getuigen wist ik niet
maar het gevoel dat Dutroux een ronselaar voor iemand anders zou kunnen zijn, dat gevoel heb ik al heel lang.
nu even inlezen over de Nederlandse Dutroux (Joris Demmink) begint al niet goed!.
8. Inmiddels is afdoende aangetoond dat er in Nederland een omvangrijk netwerk bestaat van hooggeplaatste (justitie) ambtenaren die zich overgeven aan seksuele uitspattingen. Pedofielie speelt hierbij een belangrijke rol. Namen die in dit verband genoemd moeten worden zijn die van Joost Tonino, Fokke Fernhout en Hans Holthuis. Joris Demmink speelt naar alle waarschijnlijkheid een belangrijke rol in het justitiele sex-netwerk. Steeds meer onthutsende en alarmerende feiten komen boven tafel die erop duiden dat een ieder die dit netwerk wil ‘exposen’ een gewisse dood sterft. Hier een posting op de website nrcombudsman.nl:
De huisarts Joyce Labruyere kwam op het spoor van kinderen die waren misbruikt door hoge ambtenaren. Ze trok aan de bel. Diende klachten in bij het OM. Ze leeft niet meer. Onder verdachte omstandigheden is ze gestorven.
Mr. Wilfred Brinkhuis organiseerde seksfeestjes voor volwassenen in Utrecht. Hij kwam zo in contact met hoge ambtenaren die zijn ruimtes wilde gebruiken voor pedofeestjes. Daar wilde hij niet aan meewerken en klaagde bij het OM. Hij leest niet meer. Onder verdachte omstandigheden is hij gestorven.
Maarten van Traa ontdekte dat er banden bestonden tussen de IRT-affaire en enkele hoge ambtenaren en hun seksuele voorkeur. Hij leeft niet meer. Hij stierf onder verdachte omstandigheden.
Chauffeur Mosterd reed zowel Aad Kosto als Joris Demmink. Hij beklaagde zich bij zijn chef over het gedrag van Demmink die op de achterbank van zijn auto jongetjes misbruikte. Hij leeft niet meer. Hij stierf onder verdachte omstandigheden.
quote:In the interview with the Flemish-language station VTM Dutroux admitted locking up the girls but did not acknowledge responsibility for their deaths.
He also said he had been part of a wider paedophile network but said the justice system did not want to pursue it.
"There is a well-grounded [paedophile] ring," he said. "I maintained regular contact with people in this ring. However, the law does not want to investigate this lead."
BBC - Belgian sex ring 'ignored'
abductions.quote:Op vrijdag 22 februari 2008 02:51 schreef Dagonet het volgende:
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Uit de PDF lees je dat er idd 700.000 meldingen zijn, met daaronder wat specificaties over ontvoeringen door familie (200.000+) en niet-familie (50000+).
Ja Cathy O Brien is een hele bekende zaak. Daar heb je dus ook weer dat netwerk van hooggeplaatsten die betrokken zijn bij kindermisbruik. Haar verhaal is dat ze in een programma zat dat door middel van ernstige emotionele trauma een soort van Manchurian kandidaten van kinderen maakte. De psyche van kinderen dusdanig beschadigen dat men ze kan herprogrammeren. Mindcontrol.quote:Op zondag 24 februari 2008 02:59 schreef Red1986 het volgende:
@ northernstar.
ik wil sowieso dat boek van John Decamp hebben
en idd..die MK-ultra shit leidt ook weer terug naar kindermisbruik..je kent Cathy O Brien's verhaal vast ook wel
ok ja, ik heb de Discovery Channel docu jaren geleden eens online gezien.quote:Op zondag 24 februari 2008 03:32 schreef Red1986 het volgende:
@ Caesu
let niet op het aantal wat gegeven wordt..lees het artikel en dan besef je dat het aantal er niet toedoet..dat stuk alleen al uit het dagboek van die Paul Bonacci is te ziek voor woorden..en kijk ook die docu Conspiracy of Silence..het is niet voor niets dat hij nooit is uitgezonden ook al stond hij al in de gidsen
lees het artikel en de zaken en lees wat over de dutroux zaak en Demmink..en je beseft wel dat dit wereldwijd zeker aan de gang is door de hoogste lui die er maar zijn..en dat aantallen er niet toe doen maar dat elk geval alleen al in mijn ogen direct de doodstraf verdient..
hier kan je meer lezen over Demminkquote:Op zondag 24 februari 2008 01:53 schreef Red1986 het volgende:
maar sowieso tijdje terug ook toch in de media met dat turkse document waar in stond dat Demmink chantabel zou zijn
http://www.standaard.be/A(...)elId=DMF27022008_073quote:woensdag 27 februari 2008
Slachtoffers berichten over brutaal kindermisbruik op Jersey
Na de ontdekking van een in ontbinding verkerend kinderlijkje in een voormalig weeshuis op het Britse Kanaaleiland Jersey melden zich steeds meer getuigen over het meedogenloos seksueel misbruik van meisjes en jongens in de instelling. Ondertussen wordt de zoektocht naar nog meer slachtoffertjes in de kelder van het voormalige weeshuis woensdag door instortingsgevaar vertraagd.
In het weeshuis "Haut de la Garenne" in St. Martin werden oudere kinderen door werknemers aangespoord jongeren vast te grijpen en te verkrachten, zei de nu 59-jarige Peter Hannaford. Hijzelf was als weeskind op twaalfjarige leeftijd "bijna elke nacht" slachtoffer geworden van dergelijke gewelddaden.
Andere ooggetuigen berichtten hoe werknemers van het weeshuis zich op feestjes bedronken en gericht de "zwakste kinderen" voor seksueel misbruik uitzochten. "Verkrachtingen van meisjes en ook jongens in alle leeftijdscategorieën was dagelijkse kost", verklaarde een 49-jarige vroegere bewoonster van de instelling.
In totaal hebben zich inmiddels 150 vermoedelijke slachtoffers en ooggetuigen van verkrachtingen gemeld, die tot het begin van de jaren zestig teruggaan, luidde het bij de politie. Er wordt rekening gehouden met de ontdekking van bijkomende kinderlijkjes nadat speciaal afgerichte speurhonden begonnen te blaffen. Vooraleer in het gebouw, dat nu een jeugdherberg is, bij de verdere zoektocht fundamenten uitgegraven worden en metselwerk wordt weggehaald, moet een en ander gestabiliseerd worden.
quote:The truth about how much the "Save Our Children" folks will lie to garner sympathy, donations, fame, etc., hit me hard almost three decades ago.
The Phil Donahue show interviewed a guy from the major child protection outfit of the day. (I believe, though I'm not sure, that it was the NCMEC, back before they obtained quasi-governmental, beyond-reproach status.) This was back when the first scares about "your children are being targeted by slavers/devil worshippers/perverts" were first gearing up. The rep plainly and unambiguously said that 50,000 children a year go missing.
50,000.
The entire audience was nodding their heads and agreeing about how this was a terrible problem. Something, however, bothered me about that number. Then I remembered - I had done a report in school about casualties during the Vietnam war. We had about 50,000 casualties during the time period I looked at for the report.
Everyone I knew had some family member who was killed or injured in Vietnam. NOBODY known to me had a family member who was a "missing child." Something was wrong here. If 50,000 children a year went missing, there wouldn't have been anyone in that audience; they would have all been out looking for their children.
I actually did some investigating. The stats they were quoting resulted from adding up every possible definition of "missing child." They included children who were being cared for by the (legally) non-custodial parent. They included every runaway reported, even if the runaway child returned 10 minutes after the police were called. They included throwaways. They included every damn thing they could possibly count, including certain "projections" for any numbers they thought unreported. In other words, they weren't even terribly circumspect about the fact they were exaggerating like crazy.
Then I did some research on what we think of when we think of "missing child" - a little kid, snatched by a stranger for nefarious purposes. There wasn't a lot of data. The only organization that had done much research was the Illinois state police. They concluded that by-stranger abductions of pre-high school kids happened at a rate of, roughly, 50 to 150 times a year in the U.S. Those numbers had been stable for some time and, afaik, remain so today.
Yes, some kids to get snatched, raped, and murdered. But there are so few that it's impossible to protect against it since the circumstances are so statistically anomalous that they can't be predicted.
We would actually raise healthier, happier, more social and caring children if we'd teach them to strike up conversations with and be trusting of strangers at every opportunity. Strangers are so statistically unlikely to be a threat that they can be entirely discounted as such. Those 100 or so kids are going to cross paths with a truly evil person and die every year, anyway; there's no need to instill fear in all the rest to protect against something that can't really be stopped.
You wanna really protect little kids against real sexual abuse instead of wasting resources protecting them against some kid on the playground who steals a kiss or a boogeyman so rare as to be practically nonexistent? There are lots of guys who are a little dodgy but not a real threat; they would never dream of snatching a kid off the street. Put them in the house with a constantly available little girl or boy, however, and temptation starts to rise. If you really want to protect kids, here's what you do: Don't let Mom's new boyfriend move in. Even more generally - don't trust family members just because they're family members; they're the ones who will betray that trust.
That, however, isn't neat and easy like scaring parents because their kids are using the internet. That would actually require morality, hard work, a principled approach to the way people live their lives. That's way too much work. It'll never happen. Better to just go back to scaremongering.
Al zijn t er "maar" 50 per jaar dan nog zou de pleuris moeten uitbreken als dit waar is, maar noppes, niks aan het handje, en wie er wel een boekje over op wil doen gaat dood, hoe handig 14.gifquote:Op zaterdag 1 maart 2008 10:05 schreef ChOas het volgende:
Nog een leuke post van Slashdot over hoe er met de nummers wordt gespeeld:
als we dan uitgaan van 150 kinderen zou dat omgerekend in nederland op 8 kinderen uitkomen.quote:Op zaterdag 1 maart 2008 10:05 schreef ChOas het volgende:
Nog een leuke post van Slashdot over hoe er met de nummers wordt gespeeld:
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Ik weet niet precies wat je bedoelt, maar je doelt wrs op dat topic over Jos Demmink, SG op justitie?quote:Op dinsdag 4 maart 2008 00:34 schreef merlin693 het volgende:
hoe met je eigen theorie op dit punt ?
Volgens mij toch wel een bewezen samenzwering (met een beetje theorie)quote:Op dinsdag 4 maart 2008 00:21 schreef Ryan3 het volgende:
Volgens mij toch één der klassieke samenzweringstheorieën. .
quote:Beyond the Dutroux Affair
Ever since the Dutroux affair broke in August 1996, there have been rumors that its central character was part of a wider network of child abusers. Some might remember the video tapes that were allegedly found in Dutroux's houses and about which nothing was heard anymore (this actually was an unfounded rumor); others might remember statements from Dutroux about being a "pawn" in a network protected by police and justice officials. However, these reports are not even the tip of the iceberg of what has actually been going on in Belgium.
To really gain some understanding of what the Dutroux affair was all about, we need to take a step back and see all the other aspects which at least in the early years made up the Dutroux investigation. It will soon become obvious that by early 1997, Dutroux had become almost a mere footnote in a scandal that really had begun to threaten the very existence of Belgium. Besides a whole range of petty criminals, secret investigations were also being opened against an ever increasing amount of politicians, bankers, police officers and magistrates.
It was only after a number of strategic changes in the investigative chain of command had been made that a beginning could be made with shutting down all the inconvenient parallel investigations which had sprung up in the weeks and months after Dutroux had been arrested. The cooperation of the vast majority of the media in this cover up has been crucial.
1) In this article you can find all the names of the alleged abusers which had to be taken out of mainstream books and publications to avoid massive libel suits.
2) A leaked official document from the Dutroux investigation has been included with this article, leaving no doubt these names have actually been mentioned (often repeatedly).
Bron: http://www.pehi.eu/index.html
Volledig artikel: http://www.pehi.eu/dutrou(...)e_Dutroux_affair.htm
Project for the exposure of hidden institutions?quote:Op dinsdag 4 maart 2008 18:28 schreef OpenYourMind het volgende:
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Volgens mij toch wel een bewezen samenzwering (met een beetje theorie)
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Had je nou echt een extra post nodig om jouw ad hominem kracht bij te zetten?quote:Op zaterdag 8 maart 2008 07:59 schreef Ryan3 het volgende:
Het is zoiets dat je zegt dat er geen Joods complot is en dat jij dan aankomt met een artikel van stormfront waarin bewezen wordt dat er wel een Joods complot is.
Dat is niet betrouwbaar.
Jezusquote:
Nou vind ik 50% aan de hoge kant en is het inmiddels een uitspraak van 15 jaar geleden, maar toch, als je bedenkt dat het witte huis bevolkt word door beleidsmakers die daar al 40 jaar zitten dan is 15 jaar niet zo heel lang....ik raad je aan het artikel in z'n geheel te lezen omdat het achtergrond informatie geeft betreffende belgische politici die zich met verachtelijke zaken bezigheoud:quote:Belgian "Nebuleuse" tied to child abuse networks, Iran Contra and the BCCI's "Black Network"
An expansion on ISGP's 'Beyond Dutroux': The craziest story on the internet just got a little crazier
"To comprehend this nebula, it is necessary to abandon traditional financial or political logic; this is not merely a question of nation, political party, or of ordinary economics... Our conclusion would be that at least over the last twenty years, the economic powers, some of which mafia types, have allied themselves with political forces and organized criminal structures, and reached the 4th stage of money laundering, namely, Absolute Power. It has been specified to us that at the present moment these characters control 50% of the world economy."
- Introduction of a Belgian gendarmerie report to a number of senior officials, District of Liege, November 21, 1994.
Zowel in Belgie als in de VS zijn kennelijk bij het onderzoek naar zedenzaken op hoog nivo veel mensen omgekomen en niet op de meest duidelijke manier....als dat echt zo is dan zijn er dus erg machtige figuren aan touwtjes aan het trekken om te vorkomen dat hun walgelijke pleziertjes uitkomen....quote:This is where people die
In 'Beyond the Dutroux Affair' ISGP created a separate list of Belgiums tied to controversial affairs who have died under suspicious circumstances. There are no less than 48 people on the list, and includes the earlier-discussed gang leader Patrick Haemers who hung himself in prison in 1993. Even Jean Denis Lejeune, father of one of the girls Dutroux murdered, stated:
"As if by coincidence people die. There is no explanation for their deaths. For instance, they are victims of a deadly traffic accident just when they are under way to testify. Or one finds their charred bodies. Our judiciary apparently doesn't have sleepless nights over this." [27]
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It is possible to see the same pattern of suspicious deaths in other countries where really big, criminal interests are threatened. Names that come to mind at this moment are Frank Nugan (murdered), Salem Bin Laden (plane crash), Senator John Tower (plane crash), Danny Casolaro (suicide), Robert Maxwell (drowning accident), Maxwell's associates Sasho Danchev and Peter Boychev (suicide), John O'Neill (died on 9/11; chief investigator of anti-terrorist and mafia networks, including those of Safra and Bin Laden), and Daniel Pearl (murdered; investigated ISI ties to 9/11). Senator John DeCamp noted, "From late 1988, when the Franklin case first broke into public view, until mid-1991, at least 15 people associated with the case as investigators, alleged perpetrators, or potential witnesses, died sudden deaths, many of them violent."
Noorwegen:quote:RIGHTS-MEXICO: Journalist Hit with Libel Charge after Exposing Paedophile Ring
By Diego Cevallos
MEXICO CITY, Dec 27 (IPS) - Journalist and activist Lydia Cacho believes that the influence wielded by a powerful child prostitution and pornography ring is responsible for the death threats she has been receiving for months and her recent arrest on criminal libel charges.
"Who wouldn't be afraid of these people? I'm afraid of them, and I have no doubt that the strings pulled by child pornographers are behind the trial I'm facing," Cacho told IPS from the southeastern Mexican resort city of Cancún, her home base.
On Dec. 16, Cacho was arrested and charged with criminal libel. Earlier this year, she published a book, "Demons of Eden", which contains testimony from minors in Cancún who were sexually abused by adults who also photographed and videotaped them engaging in sexual acts and sold these images over the Internet.
Over recent days, international organisations like Amnesty International, the World Organisation Against Torture, and the Inter-American Press Association, as well as numerous European parliamentarians and Mexican intellectuals and non-governmental groups have issued statements of solidarity and support for Cacho, who is also the co-founder of the Centro Integral de Apoyo a la Mujer (CIAM), a shelter for victims of domestic violence and rape.
Upon her arrest, Cacho was driven to the central Mexican city of Puebla - over 1,500 km from her home in Cancún - and held in custody for 30 hours under "insulting" conditions and deprived of her basic rights, she reported.
She was subsequently released, then taken back into custody and officially charged with criminal libel on Dec. 23, although she has been allowed to remain free on 7,000 dollar bail while awaiting trial.
The accusation of libel was made by Puebla-based textile magnate Kamel Nacif, a close personal friend of the governor of the state of Puebla, Mario Marín.
Nacif himself has declared that he asked Marín to help him "to teach Cacho a good lesson."
Nacif is mentioned by minors and other sources interviewed for Cacho's book as a friend and protector of hotel owner Jean Succar, who fled Mexico in 2003 after being exposed as the head of a child sex ring in Cancún.
Succar was arrested in the United States in February 2004 and is currently awaiting the conclusion of an extradition trial.
"In my book it's the victims who speak, and that's where Nacif's name comes up. At first he denied his relationship with Succar, but now he admits to being his friend," said Cacho.
The activist and journalist, who writes an op/ed column for a Cancún newspaper, reported receiving death threats and asked the government of Vicente Fox for police protection, which was granted earlier this year.
According to the evidence uncovered through investigations and used as grounds for his extradition request, Succar ran a prostitution ring that preyed on girls and boys between the ages of five and 18.
Testimony from witnesses revealed that he sought out his victims among the poor families who live in the shantytowns on the outskirts of Cancún, whom he lured in with promises of food, shelter and education.
Succar engaged in sexual acts with the minors, passed them on to other adults for the same purposes, and also photographed and videotaped these acts in order to sell the images to "clients" in the United States, according to the charges against him.
The accused ringleader has publicly stated that he had "powerful" friends in business and politics.
"It's the power behind the child pornography that had me arrested and is putting me on trial for libel," maintained Cacho.
Some 17,000 minors in Mexico are victims of the sex trade, reveals a study by researcher Elena Azaola, published in 2004. Azaola's research included visits to the establishments where these children and teenagers are forced to engage in prostitution and interviews with some of those who have managed to escape.
In 1995, the Mexican Attorney General's Office broke up a crime ring devoted to publishing and selling child pornography. A year later, a special investigative force was created, which has since uncovered at least one child pornography or prostitution network every year.
Non-governmental organisations estimate that around 100 Mexican children and adolescents are trapped into child prostitution rings every month.
And around the world, roughly one million girls and boys fall victim to these networks every year.
In 2002, the Fox administration carried out a major publicity campaign against the sexual abuse of minors, with support from the United Nations Children's Fund (UNICEF).
The campaign briefly moved the issue to the top of the national agenda, but with the passage of time, it has gradually slipped out of the spotlight once again.
Cacho insists that the trial she is facing represents "a clear message to those of us who dare to speak out and expose the organised crime that is behind child pornography."
But the activist and journalist is not alone in her struggle. Mexican writer Guadalupe Loaeza, for example, has stated that Cacho has the support of a great many individuals and organisations who will not permit an injustice to be carried out against her and against the thousands of minors in Mexico who are sexually abused.
Cacho, who is being provided with legal defence by the Grijalbo publishing company, which released her book, and the attorneys at the CIAM shelter, is now weighing the possibility of filing a complaint against the Mexican authorities involved in her arrest and upcoming trial before the Inter-American Human Rights Commission, on the grounds that they are acting in a biased manner and have deprived her of her basic rights.
Nacif filed his complaint against Cacho in Puebla, where most of his business interests are based. However, the crimes in which he is implicated took place in Cancún, and the book that accused him of this involvement was published in Mexico City. (END/2005)
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Een vreemd verhaal uit de UK:quote:Norwegian paedophile ring exposed
Under the lifeless afternoon sky, the Norwegian border town of Kirkenes and its tiny population of immigrants from neighbouring Russia is less than welcoming. The next stop is the North Pole.
Kirkenes is a crossing point between the wealth of Scandinavia and the brutal poverty of Russia's old, rusting, northern naval towns.
And it is through here, say Kirkenes police, that Norwegian paedophiles issue visa invitations to Russian families, headed by women they have formed online or letter friendships with, to come and live with them so that they can abuse the children.
In recent months there has also been an increase in Norwegians with child abuse convictions making frequent trips to Murmansk, a crumbling Russian Arctic port six hours' drive away.
'Convicted paedophiles go to Russia from Norway several times a month without any viable work or social explanation for their trip,' said Ketil Haukaas, Kirkenes police chief.
The 'grooming' of Russian families for abuse exploits the economic gap between Russia and Norway. 'Cases like this are hard to prove,' said Haukaas. Police have secured only one solid conviction, which took five years to secure and was upheld on appeal only last June.
'Russians need a Norwegian citizen to stand financial guarantee to get a visa to Norway,' said Haukaas.
'If they have lived here for three years, they have the right to stay. Norwegian paedophiles have issued invitations to Russian women, and some human rights groups say that these women even tolerate the abuse of their children [to get the visa].'
But now moves are afoot to redraft Norway's residence laws to give Russian immigrants greater security if they decide to report the abuse of their child or themselves.
The border region exemplifies the divide between two societies. Norwegians earn $2,400 a month on average; the equivalent in Murmansk is $137.
Norwegian newspapers brim with adverts in which young Russian women seek 'elder single men' for 'serious relationships', even giving their passport number to speed up the visa.
It was in this desperate climate that a 44-year-old Norwegian man made a seemingly innocent invitation to a Murmansk woman and her six-year-old daughter to live with him. But as the family settled into one of the quaint wooden houses that pepper the town and enjoyed the saunas and supermarkets, Jan Ole Nilsen's more sinister motives became apparent. A routine medical check revealed that his stepdaughter had been repeatedly sexually abused.
But Nilsen wasn't arrested until 1998, as part of an international operation that exposed him as the largest producer of child porn that Norway had ever known. It was this investigation that disclosed the first concrete case of the far more disturbing phenomenon Norwegian police fear has gone undetected for years.
Nilsen had been moving between Russia and Norway, his relationship with a Russian woman who worked at an orphanage in Murmansk granting him easy access to children. The Russian woman, who has never been named because of Norway's privacy laws, introduced Nilsen to girls aged eight and nine. In Norway, he filmed the girls in indecent poses.
But police investigations unearthed abuse incidents in five other towns across northern Norway and Russia. Police believe that Nilsen is part of a paedophile network that has gone undetected.
The conviction was a breakthrough for Norwegian police. But when Nilsen's conviction was finally upheld at appeal, he got just 30 months.
While Russians take the bus drive across the border every day in their dozens to marvel at the streets of Kirkenes, Norwegians travel in the other direction for cheap and plentiful amounts of vodka and young Russian prostitutes around the tourist bars and hotels of Murmansk. It is here that the cycle of exploitation starts.
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The former office manager for John McCain:quote:Following on from the tragic and sickening story of the life and death of Charlene Downes, The Times reports on another case of middle-aged "Asian" (i.e. Muslim) men sexually abusing underage white girls:
A hidden world in which Asian men “groom” young white girls for sex has been exposed with the jailing yesterday of two men for child-abuse offences.
Zulfqar Hussain, 46, and Qaiser Naveed, 32, from east Lancashire, were each jailed for five years and eight months after exploiting two girls aged under 16 by plying them with alcohol and drugs before having sex with them.
Both men pleaded guilty at Preston Crown Court to abduction, sexual activity with a child and the supply of a controlled drug.
Despite being told explicitly by police and social services that both girls were under-age and should be returned to care, the men picked up one girl from a children’s home in Blackburn and then drove on to collect her friend who was living in temporary foster care in North Wales.
Naveed, from Burnley, gave one girl the first of five Ecstasy tablets at a motorway service station before having sex with her on the back seat of the car while the group drove back to Lancashire. The court was told that the two men later took the girls to an address in Blackburn where Hussain, from Blackburn, had sex with the second girl and gave her a total of ten Ecstasy tablets.
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The trial came amid growing concern at the attitudes of some Asian men towards white girls which campaigners for women claim few people wish to address.
Parents have complained that in parts of the country with large Asian communities white girls as young as 12 are being targeted for sex by older Asian men yet the authorities are unwilling to act because of fears of being labelled racist.
Ann Cryer, a Labour member of the Commons Home Affairs Select Committee, has been at the forefront of attempting to tackle the problem after receiving complaints from mothers in her constituency about young Asian men targeting their under-age daughters.
Although campaigners claim that hundreds of young girls are already being passed around men within the Asian community for sex, she said that attempts to raise the problem with community leaders had met with little success, with most of them being in a state of denial about it.
Rather interestingly, Ann Cryer also says that:
I think there is a problem with the view Asian men generally have about white women. Their view about white women is generally fairly low. They do not seem to understand that there are white girls as moral and as good as Asian girls.
Wow. It's almost as though their society was institutionally racist!
Incidentally, I seem to recall that the BNP have been going on and on about this issue for years, and have been repeatedly accused of "spreading racist myths" by groups such as the confused far-leftists of Unite Against Fascism. Now, however, it seems that the wicked Nazis may have been on to something after all. How unexpected...
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Een uitgebreid artikel over pedofilie in de britse overheid:quote:Ex-McCain aide accused in Pueblo fondling cases
The former office manager for John McCain's campaign in Pueblo has been arrested twice in the past week for allegedly molesting young boys.
Jeffrey Claude Bartleson, 52, was being held on $300,000 bail in the Pueblo County Jail. He faces at least three counts of sexual assault on a child by a person in a position of trust.
He was arrested Jan. 29, released on $150,000 bail and arrested again Wednesday on two additional warrants. His next court hearing is set for Feb. 23.
"We still have people who are coming forward," said Sgt. Brett Wilson, of the Pueblo Police Department special victims unit.
"When he was arrested last week, the Pueblo Chieftain put out a news article. And since then, we have had more victims come forward."
Wilson said the alleged victims so far have been boys under 16 years old.
The oldest case dates to the 1980s, and the most recent happened last year.
Wilson said he could not discuss the details of the incidents because it is an ongoing investigation.
He said that in a typical case of a pedophile, the victims know the offender.
Court documents cited by the Chieftain gave the following account:
Bartleson befriended his victims through his community work. He reportedly was active with the Boy Scouts, the Interfaith Hospitality Network and the dependency unit at Parkview Medical Center.
He also met boys through Republican rallies during McCain's presidential campaign last year.
Bartleson would invite boys to spend the night at his home, where he has a downstairs bedroom. The invitation was usually made with the consent of the boys' parents.
However, during the night, Bartleson would make the boys sleep in his bedroom, where he would fondle them.
When some of the boys showered in the downstairs bathroom, Bartleson allegedly videotaped them through an outside window.
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En tot slotte een Schotse ring die is opgepakt en zwaar is veroordeeld:quote:'Blair covering up paedophile scandal?'
While British Prime Minister Tony Blair is under criminal suspicion in the "honours-for-cash" scandal that has rocked his Labour government, we have been told that there is an even more explosive scandal that Blair, up to now, has managed to hide behind the draconian British policy of issuing "D-Notices," government orders that prohibit the British media from reporting on certain "national security" cases.
In 1999, an international investigation of child pornographers and paedophiles run by Britain's National Criminal Intelligence Service, code named Operation Ore, resulted in 7,250 suspects being identified in the United Kingdom alone. Some 1850 people were criminally charged in the case and there were 1451 convictions. Almost 500 people were interviewed "under caution" by police, meaning they were suspects. Some 900 individuals remain under investigation. In early 2003, British police began to close in on some top suspects in the Operation Ore investigation, including senior members of Blair's government.
However, Blair issued a D-Notice, resulting in a gag order on the press from publishing any details of the investigation. Blair cited the impending war in Iraq as a reason for the D-Notice. Police also discovered links between British Labour government paedophile suspects and the trafficking of children for purposes of prostitution from Belgium and Portugal (including young boys from the Casa Pia orphanage in Portugal).
Tony Blair: stifling investigations of paedophiles in his Labour government.
In the United States, Operation Ore's counterpart was Operation Avalanche. However, U.S. authorities only charged 100 people out of 35,000 investigated. The international paedophile investigation began when Dallas police and the US Postal Inspection Service raided the offices of Landslide Productions of Fort Worth, Texas and confiscated records on thousands of people around the world who were child pornography customers of the firm. Landslide's halcyon days as a Fort Worth-based international online marketplace of kiddie porn was during the term of Texas Governor George W. Bush.
WMR has learned that the Bush administration, like that of Blair, is rife with paedophiles in top positions. The paedophile network also extends to the U.S. defense industry, particularly some of the companies that have been involved in the sexual abuse of minors at overt and covert U.S. prisons in Abu Ghraib, Iraq; Guantanamo, Kosovo, Afghanistan, Thailand, and now, at three prisons in Ethiopia.
Source: Wayne Madsen
'commons clerk on trial after IT find thousands of images of children performing sexual acts'
Tony Blair's closest confidante's is a practising paedophile, are even suggesting that this particular scandal, and not Blair's repeated lies and fabricated reports in regard to Iraq, may well prove the downfall of a government mired in sleaze and corruption.
The Sunday Times is reported to have obtained an FBI list of Labour MPs who have used credit cards to pay for internet child pornography, and Blair has responded by imposing a massive news blackout, failing however to stop the arrest of one of his most important aides, Phillip Lyon.
Lyon used his computer "to pursue his interest and perhaps curiosity in this type of material. He searched for it on the internet and, when found, downloaded it for his delectation later", said Ms Karmy-Jones.
Lyon, 38, from Stanford le Hope in Essex, denies 12 specimen charges of making an indecent image of a child between October 2001 and April 2002. "It is like a drug, you try one and you want to try something harder, and it has a snowball effect," he is alleged to have told officers when arrested.
Lyon worked in the Upper Table Office, where he met MPs, the Speaker, and Deputy Speaker while checking parliamentary questions and administering early day motions. "He needed skills in computing and the internet," said Ms Karmy-Jones. "He is an intelligent individual, and knew full well what he was doing." When first interviewed, he allegedly told police he did not distribute material - "I just look at pictures."
Ms Karmy-Jones told jurors: "This case is about child pornography - what others might call photos of child abuse. When I say child abuse, it may sound harsh, but it is the nature of these images which is central to the case. They are unpleasant and disturbing."
She said the issue might be whether it was Lyon who downloaded the images. "We say it is clear he was that man."
Under Blair's government paedophiles get off with a slap on the wrist 'Proof'
There is a lot more here that is being exposed. We already know about Lord
George Robertson's (ex UK Defence Secretary 1997/98 and Sec Gen of Nato) links with Thomas Hamilton (Dunblane), procurer of young boys and a massive British establishment [Masonic] cover up.
Blair government insider Lord Robertson has threatened to sue Scotland's leading independent newspaper over internet allegations that he not only used his influence as a Freemason to procure a gun licence for child killer Thomas Hamilton, but was also a member of a clandestine paedophile ring reportedly set up by Hamilton for the British elite. On 13 March 1996, Hamilton, armed with four hand-guns, opened fire on a junior school class, killing 16 children and one teacher before turning the gun on himself, shattering forever the idyllic 13th century Scottish town of Dunblane. Lord Robertson was the referee on Thomas Hamilton's shotgun licence. [FACT]
Blair government, which has already issued a D-Notice to gag the press from revealing the names of known paedophiles within the British executive, including at least two senior ministers; and the case highlights the government's NATO boss and Blair government insider Lord Robertson has threatened to sue Scotland's leading independent newspaper over internet allegations that he not only used his influence as a Freemason to procure a gun licence for child killer Thomas Hamilton, but was also a member of a clandestine paedophile ring reportedly set up by Hamilton for the British elite.
Tony Blair's closest confidante's is a practising paedophile, are even suggesting that this particular scandal, and not Blair's repeated lies and fabricated reports in regard to Iraq, may well prove the downfall of a government mired in sleaze and corruption. The Sunday Times is reported to have obtained an FBI list of Labour MPs who have used credit cards to pay for internet child pornography, and Blair has responded by imposing a massive news blackout, failing however to stop the arrest of one of his most important aides, Phillip Lyon.
The latest allegations came to light following a campaign to lift the secrecy on the Dunblane massacre. Large sections of the police report were banned from the public domain under a 100-year secrecy order. Lord Cullen, an establishment insider, also omitted and censored references to the documents in his final report. Parents and teachers were advised to concentrate their efforts on a campaign to outlaw handguns instead of focusing on how the mentally unstable Freemason, already known by the police to be a paedophile, had obtained a firearms licence for six handguns. Hamilton allegedly enjoyed good relations with both local Labour luminary George Robertson and Michael Forsyth, the then Scottish Secretary of State and MP for Stirling. Forsyth congratulated and encouraged Hamilton for running a boy's club. Hamilton was also found to have exchanged letters with the British monarch, Queen Elizabeth.
Now where in this is there a national security risk so great, that documents part of the public enquiry are now state secrets to be held for 100 years? Funny kind of public enquiry. Why, when Thomas Hamilton's application for a gun licence was turned down, due to him being regarded as a man of unsound character [and] him being the object of several paedophilia investigations, did his MP, our friend George Robertson (now Lord Robertson, Secretary-General of NATO), write him a glowing character reference, and personally see to it that his application was successful, when he knew the grounds for the original refusal were because he was suspected of procuring boys for sexual services?"
Dunblane may have been just over 11 years ago, but the questions still loom, that have to be answered.
1.No proper Autopsy and no inquest on Hamilton?
2. Reasons unknown - Shoots Kids? - was he a scape goat to get rid of evidence of a paedophile ring of MP's and Mason's in Scotland? - there seems to be mounting evidence to prove this theory.
3. Receives Shotgun Licence even though he was turned down by normal channels - Why was Lord Robertson not prosecuted for refereeing his application?
4. Why did he shoot himself with a different gun from the one he shot the kid's with, even though the first gun still hand rounds in it? - strange to say the least.
These and many more questions, still remain unanswered.
'Assorted Party Political Perverts for your attention'
. Tory Party General election candidate, Michael Powell - Convicted and jailed for 3 years for downloading hardcore child porn.
. Tory Party Councillor (Wickbar/Bristol) Roger Talboys - Convicted and jailed for 6 years for multiple sex attacks on childre
. Tory Party MP (Billericay) Harvey Proctor - Stood trial for sex offences of a sado-masochistic nature against teenage boys, and was forced to resign.
. Tory Party Councillor ( Stratford-upon-Avon ) Christopher Pilkington - Convicted of downloading hardcore child porn on his PC. Placed on sex offenders register and forced to resign.
. Tory Party councillor ( Coventry ), Peter Stidworthy - Charged with indecent assault of a 15-year old boy.
. Tory Party Mayor ( North Tyneside ), Chris Morgan - Forced to resign after being arrested twice in 2 weeks, for indecent assault on a 15-year old girl, and for suspicion of downloading child porn.
. Tory Party Liaison Manager on the London Assembly, Douglas Campbell, who's job includes running the Tory GLA website - Arrested for allegedly downloading child porn. He is currently suspended while the Police investigation continues.
. Tory Party Councillor (Folkestone - in Leader, Michael Howard's constituency), Robert Richdale - 41 year history of crime, involving 30 convictions and 5 prison sentences. Richdales enormous criminal record, which covers 10 pages of A4 paper, includes convictions for assault, theft, causing death by dangerous driving, forgery, drugs offences, possession of an offensive weapon, and sex attacks against underage schoolgirls. The Tory Party election campaign literature described Richdale as "a family man" who had a "compassionate personality"
. Labour Councillor (Newton Aycliffe) Martin Locklyn - Convicted and jailed for 15 years for sexually abusing 3 14-year-old boys.
. Labour Councillor (North Lincolnshire) David Spooner - Convicted and jailed for 1 year for masturbating in front of 2 young boys.
. Labour Mayor (Westhoughton/Lancashire) Nicholas Green - Convicted and jailed for 10 years for 3 rapes and 13 counts of indecent assault against little girls between the age of 6 and 10. He raped one woman on her wedding day.
. Prominent Labour Party activist Mark Tann (who has met Tony & Cherie at Party functions) recently got a 15-year sentence for raping a 4-year old girl on 2 separate occasions.
. Entire Labour Party conspired to conceal the activities of Labour Party activist and serial child-molester Mark Trotter, who died from AIDS before he could be convicted.
. Labour Councillor (Manchester), George Harding - Charged with indecent assault on a girl of 12.
. According to media reports, the names of 2 former Labour Cabinet Ministers said to be `Household names` appear on the `Operation Ore ` list of subscribers to hard-core child pornography. The same FBI investigation, which led to the arrest of rock star Pete Townshend. So who are they Mr Blair?
. William Straw - Son of Labour Foreign Secretary, and former Home Secretary - Jack Straw, was cautioned by Police for drug dealing, amid a frantic Government attempt to cover up the matter and gag the media as to his identity. Jack Straw also has a brother who was convicted of a sex attack on a schoolgirl. Lovely family!
. Homosexual mass murderer; Dennis Nielsen, who strangled and dismembered 16 young men in the 1980`s, was also a highly active member of Labour fringe groups such as the Anti-Nazi League, and the SWP. That's when he wasn't busy boiling peoples heads in a pot, or masturbating over the corpses of his victims.
. Lib-Dem Council candidate (Tower Hamlets), Justin Sillman - Convicted and jailed for 2 years for sexual abuse of young boys.
. Lib-Dem Councillor and Mayoral Candidate ( Sheffield ), Francis Butler- Prosecuted for indecent assault of a young boy.
. Lib-Dem Councillor ( Stockport ) Neil Derbyshire - Sexually assaulted a 16-year old boy in a public toilet. He was caught with a plastic bag containing lubricant, plastic surgical gloves, a condom, and underpants.
. Lib-Dem Councillor ( Preston ), Bill Chadwick - Charged with: Making an indecent photograph of a child, Incitement to rape, Incitement to murder, Incitement to kidnap, and Incitement to torture. Chadwick's gay lover - Alan Valentine, is also a Lib-Dem councillor.
This we are afraid is only the tip of the iceberg. this will be continued...
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Meer hierover:quote:Largest Paedophile Network Uncovered in Scotland Guilty Of More Than 50 Charges
Eight paedophiles from Scotland were convicted of child abuse and producing indecent images of children. The charges against them include abusing infants from three months old to conspiracy and possession of more than 125,000 images of child abuse.
The accusers were caught after one of them, Neil Strachan, took his computer to be repaired. The repair technician found indecent images of children. 7000 more images were uncovered, with emails showing that other children were at serious risk. Local Scottish detectives were granted warrants by courts in the USA to have access to email records from Microsoft.
Investigation into the digital camera used to record the abuse exposed another of the accusers' identities. Sophisticated tracking equipment pinpointed this individual's broadband Wi-Fi signals in a specific area of Edinburgh, Scotland. Further investigation by the police revealed the identities of all eight paedophiles.
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en meer info hierover ook nog hier.quote:Unmasked: The sickening suburban paedophile ring
DARK PURPOSE: Paedophile networks use a variety of technologies to maintain contact
Eight men who hid behind middle-class respectability to operate Scotland's largest-known paedophile ring were last night facing lengthy jail sentences after police successfully exposed a highly complex network of child abuse and pornography.
Lothian and Borders Police said after the nine-week trial at the High Court in Edinburgh that information on 70 more individuals with suspected links to the paedophile ring had been passed to other forces throughout the UK as a result of its Operation Algebra.
Ringleaders Neil Strachan, 41, and James Rennie, 38, both of Edinburgh, were found guilty yesterday of abusing young boys and distributing images and video of their depraved acts and now face a possible life prison sentence.
The pair will undergo "a full risk assessment", which would allow the court to impose an order for lifelong restriction - similar to a life sentence - in which the judge imposes a minimum sentence, but will only be freed when the parole board consider it safe to do so.
Rennie, the former chief executive of LGBT Youth Scotland, a national support group for young gay people, began his campaign of abuse when the child, who he used to babysit, was only three months old.
The former secondary school teacher enjoyed a high social and professional profile through his work in which he regularly spoke out in public on gay issues, particularly how they affected young people.
But the High Court heard he was "polluted by deviant compulsion". Crown QC Dorothy Bain said: "In reality he is someone who allowed his profound interest in the sexual abuse of children to engulf his entire life."
Strachan, who is HIV positive and already has two previous convictions for child abuse, molested at least two children, one just 18 months old.
Strachan, Rennie, Milligan, along with Ross Webber, 27, of North Berwick, a supervisor with RBS and Craig Boath, 24, an insurance worker from Dundee, were found guilty of conspiring to get access to a child or children to commit abuse.
From various locations across Scotland, they plotted, whether by using web cameras or other means such as by phone, to participate in sexual offences, including rape and sodomy.
Neil Campbell, 46, a church elder and bellringer at Jordanhill Parish Church in Glasgow, was also accused of the conspiracy, but he was cleared on that charge after the jury found the case against not proven.
John Murphy, 44, a former teacher who worked as a receptionist in a gay sauna, and Colin Slaven, 23, an IT worker from Edinburgh, were found guilty of various offences relating to the possession of indecent photographs of children along with the other six defendants.
Detective Superintendent Allan Jones, who led the Lothian and Borders inquiry team, said that more than 35 people have been arrested or were subject to enforcement action.
Two investigations are continuing in Scotland. He added: "This case, known as Operation Algebra, was one of the biggest and most challenging ever investigated by the force and represented the largest paedophile network dismantled in Scotland.
"As the investigation unfolded it revealed a web of people who had a common interest in child sexual abuse."
Apart from Strachan, none of the accused was known to the police, Detective Superintendent Jones said. "All led classic double lives. Some of them were respected members of their professions and communities."
Mr Jones said the use of the conspiracy charge in this case was "particularly significant", marking the first time it had been brought against individuals in a network.
The paedophile ring was first exposed after Strachan, an engineer for a paint mixing firm, handed in his work's computer hard drive for repair. An engineer found images of a naked boy on it and handed the machine to police.
Strachan, despite the severity of his offence, was the only one of the eight men on trial who denied every charge against him. Prosecutors were forced to piece together the case against him.
Last night, the mother of one of the abused babies released a statement which detailed her family's anguish - and her hopes that her son would go on to live a normal, happy life.
All the men were remanded in custody to await sentencing. Strachan and Rennie will be sentenced in July.
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Welkom in het meest absurde deel van onze samenlevingquote:De grootste cover-up uit onze geschiedenis
doofpot.jpgDe waarheid rond het Nederlandse pedofielen-netwerk en rol die vele hooggeplaatste landgenoten hierin spelen zal en mag nooit ‘officieel’ in de openbaarheid komen. De belangen zijn eenvoudigweg te groot. Boodschappers op deze website melden dat De Telegraaf steevast alle postings die verwijzen naar deze website, de Demmink-zaak en/of het interview met Adam Curry weert, laat staan dat de andere ‘officiele media’ er enige aandacht aan willen besteden. In de tussentijd staat internet helemaal vol met Demmink-materiaal, maar op een of andere wijze moet er toch een brug worden geslagen tussen de waarheid op internet en de waarheid in de ‘bovenwereld’. Het is fascinerend om te reconstrueren hoe deze ‘bovenwereld’ na aanvankelijk wel degelijk onderzoek naar de zaak te hebben gedaan zich als een oester sloot toen de zaak really big werd en bleek dat er vele belangrijke Nederlanders bij betrokken waren. We beginnen bij de actualiteitenrubriek Netwerk die reeds in 1998 het basismateriaal in handen had om het pedofielen-netwerk in kaart te brengen en op te rollen. Na de twee baanbrekende uitzendingen in 1998 is niets meer van Netwerk vernomen, dus ook niet in 2003 en 2007 toen de zaak weer op de voorpagina’s belandde. De twee journalisten die de reportages op hun naam hebben staan, Martin Froberg en Roelf van Til, zijn niet meer bij Netwerk werkzaam en hebben zelfs hun medewerking verleend aan een cover-up door in 2004 te verklaren dat de ‘topambtenaar Joris’ die zo prominent in hun reportage optreedt niet Joris Demmink zou zijn, maar een ‘andere hoge ambtenaar’ die op VWS zou werken.
Deze draai van 180 graden van ‘onthullen’ naar ‘verhullen’ zien we vaker in deze zaak. Het NOS Journaal, zo blijkt uit de Runderkamp-papers, heeft tot 2003 serieus onderzoek naar de zaak gedaan en zelfs in de uitzending gemeld dat Demmink heeft toegegeven kinderen te misbruiken. Na intimidatie door de advocaat van Demmink, Harro Knijff, nam het Journaal reeds direct gas terug en is nadien nooit meer op de zaak teruggekomen. Dezelfde Knijff is erin geslaagd de bladen Panorama en de Gay Krant (zie feitenoverzicht) dermate de stuipen op het lijf te jagen dat het woord ‘Demmink’ sinds 2003 nooit meer is uitgesproken op beide redacties. Dan De Telegraaf, de krant van Pedofiel Nederland. Deze krant heeft wel de meest opzienbarende rol gespeeld door tot medio 2007 het voortouw te nemen in het blootleggen van de pedofielen-netwerk maar reeds een jaar later de rol van ‘onthullen’ te verwisselen voor die van ‘verhullen’ door out of the blue met het verhaal te komen dat Demmink ‘het slachtoffer zou zijn van een maffia-complot’. Hier zien we vermoedelijk de hand van Sjuul Paradijs die volgens diverse bronnen banden onderhoudt met Joris Demmink die hij ongetwijfeld goed heeft leren kennen in het Haagse party-circuit waar Paradijs zijn ’sporen’ als journalist eerder heeft achtergelaten dan verdiend. De laatste week is het radio-station Arrow Classic Rock in beeld gekomen dat de nek heeft uitgestoken door als eerste een interview te brengen met de webmaster van deze site, maar reeds direct daarop ‘in een juridische situatie’ belandde die ervoor zorgde dat de podcast van het interview niet op de eigen website geplaatst kon worden. Ook een vervolginterview dat reeds was aangekondigd voor de dag na het eerste interview ging niet door, al kan dat nog altijd in het vat zitten: de signalen die we thans doorkrijgen zijn dat Arrow graag op het onderwerp door wil gaan. Het enige programma dat tussentijds (13 juli 2007) nog op een enigzins ‘onthullende’ wijze aandacht aan de zaak besteedde was EenVandaag waarin ook weer fragmenten te zien waren van de Netwerk-uitzendingen van 1998. Mede dankzij deze fragmenten waarin we horen dat er in 1998 sprake was van een ‘topambtenaar Joris’ die op Justitie werkzaam is, hebben we de zaak ‘rond’ kunnen krijgen.
Ronduit verbijsterend is de rol van ‘kwaliteitskranten’ als NRC Handelsblad en De Volkskrant. NRC heeft bijvoorbeeld twee keer aandacht aan Joris Demmink besteed: een keer in een groot portret waarin Demmink de hemel in wordt geprezen als ‘geestig, slim, scherp en teruggetrokken’ en een keer is een stuk waarin werd ‘onthuld’ dat ‘onderzoek heeft aangetoond’ dat Demmink ‘helemaal schoon’ is.
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Als je werkelijk weet wat er gebeurt nodig ik je uit hier uiteen te zetten wat je weet, uiteraard t liefst gestaafd met links en bronnen....quote:Op zondag 6 september 2009 04:22 schreef TubBizar het volgende:
Ik weet dat ritueel misbruik bestaat. sinds 15 jaar ben ik op de hoogte ervan en ook rituele babymoord! Toen wist ik het uit boeken. Het gebeurt ook in Nederland en belgië, dat weet ik omdat ik getuigen heb gesproken...ex cult leden der Satanen. NEE HET IS GEEN HOAX!
Dit dusquote:Op zondag 6 september 2009 11:19 schreef YuckFou het volgende:
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Als je werkelijk weet wat er gebeurt nodig ik je uit hier uiteen te zetten wat je weet, uiteraard t liefst gestaafd met links en bronnen....
Maar ernaar hinten en er vervolgens niet naar handelen vind ik dan wel vrij kwalijk. Persoonlijk dan.quote:Op zondag 6 september 2009 13:09 schreef nokwanda het volgende:
Ik begrijp niet hoe dit stilgehouden kan worden en waarom dat niet leidt tot een storm onder de mensen.
Ik heb jaren geleden ooit eens een fragment meegekregen uit een radioprogramma waarin een fragment van een telefoongesprek te beluisteren viel tussen een topambtenaar en een kinderhandelaar die zei nog wel wat jongens in de aanbieding te hebben. Nooit meer iets van gehoord.
En verhalen van getuigen KUN je niet altijd hier plaatsen omdat het voor die mensen persoonlijk misschien niet te doen is. Kan me zomaar voorstellen dat je niet publiekelijk bekend wil maken ooit van zoiets slachtoffer te zijn geweest.
Posten op een openbaar forum is vele malen gevaarlijker dan aangifte doen of je relaas kwijt kunnen in een boekquote:
Voor mijn gevoel hebben beide zaken toch niks met elkaar te maken, gezien de kerk toch vanuit het Goddelijke roept te werken en het ritueel misbruik vanuit occulte machten zou worden aangestuurd...quote:Op vrijdag 12 maart 2010 00:05 schreef Ticker het volgende:
Kick.. wat op dit moment in DWDD speelt is ook weer interessant.
Het grootschalig kindermisbruik door de kerkelijke instanties waar dan ook ter wereld.
die heeft een nieuw domein: http://www.isgp.eu/quote:Op vrijdag 12 maart 2010 00:05 schreef Ticker het volgende:
Heeft iemand tevens een idee wat er is met de site van pehi.eu ???
Stiekem wou ik alleen dat weten!quote:Op vrijdag 12 maart 2010 09:28 schreef YuckFou het volgende:
die heeft een nieuw domein: http://www.isgp.eu/
He hallo.. ik ben toch de google-onderzoeker van Fok!quote:
Je hele post was eigenlijk overbodigquote:Op vrijdag 4 september 2009 12:03 schreef YuckFou het volgende:
Nieuw hier en nog niet gezien, begin bij het begin en open je ogen, topic al eerder gelezen, lees hier dan verder wat het internet naar mijn idee voor nieuwe informatie heeft opgeleverd:
van de site www.isgp.eu voorheen www.pehi.eu komt informatie over de zgn. Nebleuse network, wederom een belgisch netwerk waarin niet alleen kindermisbruikers maar ook hoge politici, militairen en intelligence elkaar vinden:
I feel you heartz....quote:Op zaterdag 13 maart 2010 06:22 schreef heartz het volgende:
Tupac - "When Thugz Cry"
When thugs cry..
Now I lay me down to sleep
I pray the Lord my guns to keep
If I die before I wake
I pray the Lord my soul to take
God as my witness, when thugs cry, too much is hard
[2Pac]
Born thuggin and lovin the way I came up
Big money clutchin, bustin while evadin cocaine busts
My pulse rushin, send my pulse into insanity
Shout at my cousin now we bustin if they yo' family
The coppers wanna see me buried, I ain't worried
I got a line on the D.A. cause I'm fuckin his secretary
I black out and start cussin, bust 'em and touch 'em all
They panic and bitches duckin, I rush 'em and fuck 'em all
I'll probably be an old man before I understand
why I had to live my life with pistols close at hand
Kidnapped my homey's sister, cut her face up bad
They even raped so we blazed they pad
Automatic shots rang out, on every block
They puttin hits out on politicians, even cops, I ain't lyin
They got me sleepin with my infrared beams
And in my dreams I hear motherfuckers screamin
What is the meaning, when thugs cry?
[Chorus: singers]
Oh why, children send your child off to die
In the streets of chalk where they lie
Let no wrongs cry out when thugs cry
Dear God..
Oh why, does it have to be this way, our
children of today won't stay wise
Let the children hear when thugs cry
Dear God.. oh why..
[("When thugs cry") on line 4, first time only]
[("thugs cry") on line 6, first time only]
[2Pac]
Heh.. maybe my addiction to friction got me buggin
Where is the love? Never quit my ambition to thug
Ain't shed a tear since the old school years of elementary
Niggaz I used to love, enclosed in penitentiaries
But still homey keep it real, how does it feel
to lose your life, over somethin that you did as a kid?
You all alone, no communication, block on the phone
Don't get along with yo' pop, and plus your moms is gone
Where did we go wrong? I put my soul in the song
to help us grow at times, but now our minds are gone
We went from brothers and sisters, to niggaz and bitches
We went from welfare livin, to worldwide riches
But somethin changed in this dirty game, everything's strange
Lost all my homies over cocaine.. mayne
See they ask me if I shed a tear, I ain't lie
See you gotta get high or die, cause even thugs cry
[Chorus]
[2Pac]
And all I see is these paranoid bitches, illegal adventures
Bustin motherfuckers with uppercuts, I leave 'em with dentures
Cause in my criminal mind, nobody violates the Don
I write your name on a piece of paper, now your family's gone
Why perpetrate like you can handle my team?
So merciless that my attack'll take command of your dreams
Leavin motherfuckers drownin in they own blood
Clownin takin pictures later
Laugh bout the punk bitches, that turned snitches
Regulate my area, the terror I represent
Makin yo' people disappear, you wonderin where they went?
Am I cold or is it just I sold my soul?
Addicted to these streets, never find true peace I'm told
Come take my body God, don't let me suffer any longer
Smoke a pound of marijuana, so I know it ain't long
Where is the end to all my misery, is there a close?
I suppose that's why I murder my foes, when thugs cry
[Chorus]
[2Pac over Chorus]
I shed tattooed tears for years
for my dead homeboys and my prison peers
Y'all ain't never heard my cries
Now you wonder why would you die?
[Chorus]
Misschien voor sommigen grof, ik zou het eerder rauw noemen.
De oprechte waarheid hoeft niet met zoete woorden te komen, helemaal als je begrijpt wat er aan de hand is en hoe het leed wordt veroorzaakt..
The game is fokking dirty. Degenen die on top zitten doen wat ze willen, ten koste van alles en iedereen. Dat dit soort zaken plaatsvinden onder hogere officieren, ministers en ambtenaren zegt ook genoeg over ons hypocriete rechtssysteem. Die officier die de daders van vrouwenhandel heeft vrijgesproken en toen vrolijk gepromoveerd is. Ik denk dat er alles aan wordt gedaan de nog hardere realiteit (bijv info over pedo's in betrokkenheid met hoge piefen) uit de media te houden. Precies wat zou er gebeuren als het bekend zou worden dat er een vrij hoog aantal kinderen (per dag) slachtoffer is van deze gruwelijke daden, natuurlijk raakt dat mensen dieper en het zou hun ogen openen, gevoelige informatie openbaren ten nadele van hen, nee dat is niet wat ze willen en deze info zou dan net iets te gevoelig zijn.
Iets beter lezenquote:Op donderdag 18 maart 2010 16:36 schreef deenigeechteTS het volgende:
Kortom, hoe lichter de straffen, hoe meer in doofpot gestopte misdaden.Als de straffen voor zulke misdaden laag zijn, dan regeert wetteloosheid.
En als de straffen hoog zijn, kan dat de dader ertoe aanzetten alle getuigen uit de weg te ruimen.quote:Op donderdag 18 maart 2010 16:36 schreef deenigeechteTS het volgende:
Kortom, hoe lichter de straffen, hoe meer in doofpot gestopte misdaden.Als de straffen voor zulke misdaden laag zijn, dan regeert wetteloosheid.
Maar effe serieus.. is dat iets waar rekening mee gehouden wordt in de echte wereld?quote:Op vrijdag 19 maart 2010 17:54 schreef TitusPullo het volgende:
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En als de straffen hoog zijn, kan dat de dader ertoe aanzetten alle getuigen uit de weg te ruimen.
Ik denk het niet.quote:Op zaterdag 20 maart 2010 10:08 schreef Ticker het volgende:
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Maar effe serieus.. is dat iets waar rekening mee gehouden wordt in de echte wereld?
Heb je je al door de X-dossiers heengewerkt? Ik kreeg bij tijd en wijle koude rillingen en een misselijk gevoel al lezende...quote:Op zaterdag 20 maart 2010 15:29 schreef TitusPullo het volgende:
Ik denk het niet.
Interessante stof trouwens, op isgp.
Ik ben begonnen met de aflevering van Zembla waarin ik die fraze (''X-dossiers'') het eerste hoorde:quote:Op zaterdag 20 maart 2010 16:40 schreef YuckFou het volgende:
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Heb je je al door de X-dossiers heengewerkt? Ik kreeg bij tijd en wijle koude rillingen en een misselijk gevoel al lezende...
Heb me er eindelijk toe kunnen zetten me hier in te verdiepen.quote:Op zaterdag 20 maart 2010 16:40 schreef YuckFou het volgende:
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Heb je je al door de X-dossiers heengewerkt? Ik kreeg bij tijd en wijle koude rillingen en een misselijk gevoel al lezende...
quote:"What you have to understand, John, is that sometimes there are forces and events too big, too powerful, with so much at stake for other people or institutions, that you cannot do anything about them, no matter how evil or wrong they are and no matter how dedicated or sincere you are or how much evidence you have. This is simply one of the hard facts of life you have to face."
- Former CIA director and Cercle member William Colby
Micha Kat!quote:Op zaterdag 20 maart 2010 18:30 schreef Resonancer het volgende:
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