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“I'm in trouble because I'm normal and slightly arrogant. A lot of people don't like themselves and I happen to be totally in love with myself.”
Wtf is that white moving bag thing at the end of the youtube movie. It's moving?quote:Op vrijdag 8 februari 2008 03:07 schreef observer777 het volgende:
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Missed all the other topics and its too much to read it allquote:Op vrijdag 8 februari 2008 03:09 schreef observer777 het volgende:
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Absolutely not true..The last time she was in the car with JK2 shortly after 1am. She has never been seen again. They need to question PVDS why he was telling people he had two contacts with her and picked her and his son up at 4AM.
. But my question to you is; how did you get on this forum and how did you get "involved" in this case? With the word "involved" I mean your interest in this case. As far as I know (by reading the last 3 pages) you are pretty well informed.
I think it's the windquote:Op vrijdag 8 februari 2008 03:18 schreef LudoSanders het volgende:
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Wtf is that white moving bag thing at the end of the youtube movie. It's moving?
"I lied and that's the truth"--Joran Van Der Sloot--
It's not like me to become involved in missing person cases at all. I had a sixth sense the first day I saw it on TV that something was terribly wrong. My heart ached for the parents as well. I knew certain people were lying like Joran and the stories didn't add up so I went on the internet to learn more. I observed for a very long time before I posted much on the internet. This Family has absolutely been put through hell and then some and it still amazes me at all the lies and dis-information put out about Natalee and her family. I make no money,I do it all for love of Natalee and desperately just want this case solved so I too can move on. I came here to share my knowledge in hopes that together we can solve this.quote:Op vrijdag 8 februari 2008 03:19 schreef RemcoW85 het volgende:
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Missed all the other topics and its too much to read it all
With the word "involved" I mean your interest in this case. As far as I know (by reading the last 3 pages) you are pretty well informed.
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"I lied and that's the truth"--Joran Van Der Sloot--
It's all wrong info put out by plants steering people in the wrong direction and being payed to do so. Just like the gas station girl,clothing store,jewelery story,ran away with a blue eyed dutch boy,in colombia and ran away in brazil.. It's all bs and so is that Natalee returned to the hotel and used her key card.quote:Op vrijdag 8 februari 2008 03:45 schreef Mistify het volgende:
Last paragraph: http://www.hollowaycase.com/analysis/6.htm
and http://www.useless-knowledge.com/1234/06apr/article086.html
"I lied and that's the truth"--Joran Van Der Sloot--
Forensic Investigators at the VDS home in 2007. Is this a clue what he was measuring? Did Natalee pass away or was injured at the VDS home?
"I lied and that's the truth"--Joran Van Der Sloot--
You can't say "100% (not) true" all the time without stating the facts. It's fine if you don't believe, but don't bring it as if they're are facts, when they're not, please. It's confusing.
I liked it. I was good at it. It made me feel alive.
Sure I can..These were dismissed as wrong info a long time ago as well as the other lies..They knew JK2 were lying by June 1st when they reviewed all of the security tapes and she was never dropped of at the HI Hotel,but they still remained free for another 8 days while they tried to frame two innocent men. If Natalee was ever seen after JK2,show me one thing that shows this..Where is the proof? Where is it? They would have shown this years ago to clear the Van Der Sloots.quote:Op vrijdag 8 februari 2008 04:02 schreef Harajuku. het volgende:
You can't say "100% (not) true" all the time without stating the facts. It's fine if you don't believe, but don't bring it as if they're are facts, when they're not, please. It's confusing.
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"I lied and that's the truth"--Joran Van Der Sloot--
Well I dont know, because of the big cover up you're talking about maybe. They would want to blame Joran?quote:Op vrijdag 8 februari 2008 04:06 schreef observer777 het volgende:
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Sure I can..These were dismissed as wrong info a long time ago as well as the other lies..If Natalee was ever seen after JK2,show me one thing that shows this..Where is the proof? Where is it? They would have shown this years ago to clear the Van Der Sloots.
I liked it. I was good at it. It made me feel alive.
Oh wait, they are the ones that dont want to blame Joran.
I got em mixed up, my bad.
I got em mixed up, my bad.
I liked it. I was good at it. It made me feel alive.
That's a possibility that he is a sacraficial lamb,but in my opinion Joran is the main suspect and everything shows that and no one else. Even his attorney told the chief prosecuter in June 2005 that he played a major role in her dissapearance but it was up to them to prove it. Remember that? Peter R revealed that on his first show!quote:Op vrijdag 8 februari 2008 04:09 schreef Harajuku. het volgende:
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Well I dont know, because of the big cover up you're talking about maybe. They would want to blame Joran?
"I lied and that's the truth"--Joran Van Der Sloot--
After what I posted on the last page, about Peter, Im not a big fan of his..quote:Op vrijdag 8 februari 2008 04:15 schreef observer777 het volgende:
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That's a possibility,but in my opinion Joran is the main suspect and everything shows that and no one else. Even his attorney told the chief prosecuter in June 2005 that he played a major role in her dissapearance but it was up to them to prove it. Remember that? Peter R revealed that on his first show!
I liked it. I was good at it. It made me feel alive.
Shame,We don't know him as well as people in Holland. But IMO he is the only one making this kind of effort to solve this case once and for all.quote:Op vrijdag 8 februari 2008 04:18 schreef Harajuku. het volgende:
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After what I posted on the last page, about Peter, Im not a big fan of his..
"I lied and that's the truth"--Joran Van Der Sloot--
He is making an effort to get his own ass back in the picture and even bigger than before. But Ill admit that thanks to him the case did get ATTENTION again, but that is all he has done. And the tape? He didnt get anything new nor did he get anything he could use in court.
I liked it. I was good at it. It made me feel alive.
quote:Op vrijdag 8 februari 2008 04:25 schreef Harajuku. het volgende:
He is making an effort to get his own ass back in the picture and even bigger than before. But Ill admit that thanks to him the case did get ATTENTION again, but that is all he has done. And the tape? He didnt get anything new nor did he get anything he could use in court.
Peter has done allot more than that. Most importantly he has done away with the whole disinfo campaign against Beth and the family and put Joran back on the stand in the court of public opinion. A meticulous effort of years trying to shift the blame away from Joran and his accomplices, even trying to place the blame on the victims themselves, all swooped away. Nobody's going to buy it anymore.
Secondly, Joran can never ever go back to saying he doesnt have anything to do with the "disappearance" of Natalee.
The case is wide open again and its now slowly going beyond Joran. Questions like who are his accomplices? Has he been protected? What part did Paulus VDS play?
I dont think there were many people even before the show who didnt think Joran did it. The only thing he accomplished is getting attention back.quote:Op vrijdag 8 februari 2008 04:40 schreef NorthernStar het volgende:
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Peter has done allot more than that. Most importantly he has done away with the whole disinfo campaign against Beth and the family and put Joran back on the stand in the court of public opinion. A meticulous effort of years trying to shift the blame away from Joran and his accomplices, even trying to place the blame on the victims themselves, all swooped away. Nobody's going to buy it anymore.
Secondly, Joran can never ever go back to saying he doesnt have anything to do with the "disappearance" of Natalee.
The case is wide open again and its now slowly going beyond Joran. Questions like who are his accomplices? Has he been protected? What part did Paulus VDS play?
If Joran were to say "I was lying" they cant do shit about it. So your "can never go back to saying he doesnt have anything to with it" doesnt go.
I liked it. I was good at it. It made me feel alive.
Paul hiding in the bushes June 20th 2005
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_RIz4ae75o (removed from youtube)
Anyone home??Hello??Is Anybody home??You got company..Knock Knock..Hi..Theres someone..Hi..Hi.Anybody home??Theres a guy right there..I see you in the bushes..Hello?? We just want to give you some cards..Hi..I'm Natalee's Mom..
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PVDS during his meeting with Beth and Greta in June 2005 before his arrest..He was sweating so profusely that Anita had to get a towel to wipe all the sweat from the table,even though the room was cool and a gentle breeze. He was also shaking so bad when she put on the hope bracelet it looked like he had parkinsons. In this meeting Anita spoke of the sexual things that Joran did to Natalee and described her blue underwear with flowers on it. How did Anita know this?
Beth: What I saw is something I have never seen before..In 90 minutes his sweat was only increasing..He was sweating profusely..After the first hour it was starting to roll of him and drip on the table and his wife had to grab a towel to wipe him down and wipe the table..
Issue goes back to May 31st at 3AM..Why would present a lie to begin with if you have nothing to hide?
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PVDS running from reporters in June 2005 after his arrest for suspicion of Kidnapping and Premediated Murder
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_RIz4ae75o (removed from youtube)
Anyone home??Hello??Is Anybody home??You got company..Knock Knock..Hi..Theres someone..Hi..Hi.Anybody home??Theres a guy right there..I see you in the bushes..Hello?? We just want to give you some cards..Hi..I'm Natalee's Mom..
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PVDS during his meeting with Beth and Greta in June 2005 before his arrest..He was sweating so profusely that Anita had to get a towel to wipe all the sweat from the table,even though the room was cool and a gentle breeze. He was also shaking so bad when she put on the hope bracelet it looked like he had parkinsons. In this meeting Anita spoke of the sexual things that Joran did to Natalee and described her blue underwear with flowers on it. How did Anita know this?
Beth: What I saw is something I have never seen before..In 90 minutes his sweat was only increasing..He was sweating profusely..After the first hour it was starting to roll of him and drip on the table and his wife had to grab a towel to wipe him down and wipe the table..
Issue goes back to May 31st at 3AM..Why would present a lie to begin with if you have nothing to hide?
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PVDS running from reporters in June 2005 after his arrest for suspicion of Kidnapping and Premediated Murder
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"I lied and that's the truth"--Joran Van Der Sloot--
Come on? Even people like Greta Van Susteren have publicly stated they where inclined to believe Joran! You havent been paying attention. There was enough doubt raised that Beth and the family where getting a very hard time getting the attention back to their search. For the last year or so they where mostly busy defending themselves! Ludicrous allegations. Psychics coming out of nowhere with concocted stories. Thats was instantly changed last week.quote:Op vrijdag 8 februari 2008 04:48 schreef Harajuku. het volgende:
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I dont think there were many people even before the show who didnt think Joran did it. The only thing he accomplished is getting attention back.
quote:If Joran were to say "I was lying" they cant do shit about it. So your "can never go back to saying he doesnt have anything to with it" doesnt go.
He already said he made it up. Didnt do him any good did it? No he cant go back. That door is closed.
You better run like hellquote:Op vrijdag 8 februari 2008 04:53 schreef observer777 het volgende:
PVDS running from reporters in June 2005 after his arrest for suspicion of Kidnapping and Premediated Murder
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You better make your face up in
Your favourite disguise
With your button down lips and your
Roller blind eyes
With your empty smile
And your hungry heart
Feel the bile rising from your guilty past
With your nerves in tatters
When the cockleshell shatters
And the hammers batter
Down the door
You better fun like hell
You better run all day
And run all night
And keep your dirty feelings
Deep inside
And if you take your girlfriend
Out tonight,
You better park the car
Well out of sight
Cos if they catch you in the back seat
Trying to pick her locks
They’re gonna send you back to mother
In a cardboard box
You better run
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYd6mCAcQw8
Like I said, he got the attention back. Ill give him that.quote:Op vrijdag 8 februari 2008 05:00 schreef NorthernStar het volgende:
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Come on? Even people like Greta Van Susteren have publicly stated they where inclined to believe Joran! You havent been paying attention. There was enough doubt raised that Beth and the family where getting a very hard time getting the attention back to their search. For the last year or so they where mostly busy defending themselves! Ludicrous allegations. Psychics coming out of nowhere with concocted stories. Thats was instantly changed last week.
I actually spoke to my lawyer friend about it tonight. He can go back. And the arrested for murder thing is really weird, because, with this, they can never get him for murder. Even disposing a body will be difficult, let alone murder.quote:He already said he made it up. Didnt do him any good did it? No he cant go back. That door is closed.
I liked it. I was good at it. It made me feel alive.
Correct...quote:Op vrijdag 8 februari 2008 05:04 schreef Harajuku. het volgende:
I actually spoke to my lawyer friend about it tonight. He can go back. And the arrested for murder thing is really weird, because, with this, they can never get him for murder. Even disposing a body will be difficult, let alone murder.
Or other evidence that the Dutch/Aruban justice might have is strong enough to kick Joran in the balls after all. The confesssion on tape is no solid evidence.
