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TEHRAN (Reuters) - Iran has completely stopped selling any of its oil for U.S. dollars, an Iranian news agency reported on Saturday, citing the oil minister of the world's fourth-largest crude producer.

The ISNA news agency did not give a direct quote from Oil Minister Gholamhossein Nozari. A senior oil official last month said "nearly all" of Iran's crude oil sales were now being paid for in non-U.S. currencies.

For nearly two years, OPEC's second biggest producer has been reducing its exposure to the dollar, saying the weak U.S. currency is eroding its purchasing power.

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who often rails against the West, has called the U.S. currency a "worthless piece of paper."

Foes since Iran's 1979 Islamic revolution, Tehran and Washington are also at odds over Tehran's disputed nuclear programme as well as over policy in Iraq.

"In line with the policy of selling crude oil in currencies other than the U.S. dollar, currently the sale of our country's oil in U.S. dollars has been completely eliminated," ISNA reported after talking with Nozari.

Nozari told ISNA: "In regards to the decrease in the dollar's value and the loss exporters of crude oil have endured from this trend, the dollar is no longer a reliable currency."

"This is why, at the meeting of the heads of states, Iran proposed to OPEC members that a currency (for oil exports) would be determined that would be reliable and would not cause any loss to exporter countries," he said.

At a November summit of Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries heads of state, Iran suggested oil should be sold in a basket of currencies rather than dollars, but failed to win over other members except Venezuela.

Ahmadinejad and his Venezuelan counterpart, Hugo Chavez, are vocal critics of U.S. influence in the world.

Hojjatollah Ghanimifard, international affairs director of the state owned National Iranian Oil Company, last month told Reuters that most of Iran's oil export earnings were in euros, with some in yen.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/oilRpt/idUKDAH83366720071208


Hoe gaan de beurzen hier morgen op reageren?!
pi_55141699
Oh-oh.
  zondag 9 december 2007 @ 11:49:08 #3
17137 Sander
Nerds do it rarely
pi_55141734
Dat wordt oorlog
  zondag 9 december 2007 @ 11:49:13 #4
17568 GizartFRL
Ik ben jarig!
pi_55141740
Bush heeft zijn oorlogsreden nu al klaar.
"We believe they are making weapons of mass destruction".
"Charlotte Muis is een dief en heel Nederland weet het nu"
  zondag 9 december 2007 @ 11:54:41 #5
17568 GizartFRL
Ik ben jarig!
pi_55141823
Aan de andere kant, goud zullen ze ook nog wel accepteren en dat ligt er in USA ook nog voldoende.
Vaatje olie voor een vaatje goud.
"Charlotte Muis is een dief en heel Nederland weet het nu"
  zondag 9 december 2007 @ 11:57:26 #6
66444 Lord_Vetinari
Si non confectus non reficiat
pi_55141870
Toen Irak dat deed was dat (één van) de reden(en) voor de inval.
De pessimist ziet het duister in de tunnel
De optimist ziet het licht aan het eind van de tunnel
De realist ziet de trein komen
De machinist ziet drie idioten in het spoor staan....
  zondag 9 december 2007 @ 11:59:17 #7
145172 gronk
adulescentulus carnifex
pi_55141894
Ahmadinejad is wel een meester in zuigen en etteren
I'm trying to make the 'net' a kinder, gentler place. One where you could bring the fuckin' children.
  zondag 9 december 2007 @ 12:00:31 #8
110057 AgLarrr
Merck toch hoe sterck!
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Zo, dat zal hard aankomen in de VS.. Ik ben echt heel benieuwd wat er gaat gebeuren. Als andere OPEC landen besluiten te volgen dan wordt het echt drama. (Dit zal wel niet gebeuren trouwens, het Saoudische regime zit tot aan de elleboog in de aars van Bush)..
"Ill fares the land, to hastening ills a prey;
Where wealth accumulates, and men decay"

- Oliver Goldsmith, The Deserted Village
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quote:
Op zondag 9 december 2007 11:59 schreef gronk het volgende:
Ahmadinejad is wel een meester in zuigen en etteren

In dit geval heeft hij wel een punt....de dollar is ondertussen idd bijna verworden tot een worthless piece of paper.
pi_55141971
we gaan eraan!
Om aan te geven hoe hoog Erdogan het moederschap acht, gaf hij een voorbeeld uit de praktijk. ''Ik kuste wel eens de voeten van mijn moeder omdat ze naar het paradijs roken. Zij wierp me dan een zedige blik toe en huilde soms.''
  zondag 9 december 2007 @ 12:03:18 #11
71480 zoalshetis
eerlijk=eerlijk
pi_55141981
op naar de americo.
hoofdletters kosten teveel tijd
don't avoid pain to gain pleasure
niet iedereen is iedereen
pi_55141988
Zat er wel aan te komen. Ik pak de popcorn wel even.


Tast toe.
Horikita Maki, O+.
  zondag 9 december 2007 @ 12:05:14 #13
145172 gronk
adulescentulus carnifex
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quote:
Op zondag 9 december 2007 12:00 schreef AgLarrr het volgende:
Zo, dat zal hard aankomen in de VS.. Ik ben echt heel benieuwd wat er gaat gebeuren. Als andere OPEC landen besluiten te volgen dan wordt het echt drama. (Dit zal wel niet gebeuren trouwens, het Saoudische regime zit tot aan de elleboog in de aars van Bush)..

Volgens mij is dit dan ook vooral bedoeld als 'statement' tegen de OPEC-landen; ik dacht dat ze rond deze tijd bezig waren met het opstellen van hun 'mandje van currencies' wat ze gingen gebruiken voor het opslaan van hun valutareserves.
I'm trying to make the 'net' a kinder, gentler place. One where you could bring the fuckin' children.
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Nuclear Winter
There are only two pains in life. The pain of discipline and the pain of regret.
  zondag 9 december 2007 @ 12:09:39 #15
150517 SpecialK
No hesitation, no delay.
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heftig. kwestie van tijd totde andere opec landen volgen. En dan zal de amerikaanse burger ineens dezelfde (of hogere) prijzen moeten betalen voor benzine als wij in europa alleen dan niet door de hoge belastingen maar omdat de inkoop prijs zo hoog ligt
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  zondag 9 december 2007 @ 12:11:28 #16
89730 Drugshond
De Euro. Mislukt vanaf dag 1.
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Los van het regime in Iran.... is dit economisch gezien wel de juiste keuze.
De eurie gaat nog meer in waarde stijgen, dus onze export gaat er flink onder lijden.
En de dollar krijgt nu klap voor klap te verwerken.

Maar goed deze speculatie van loskoppeling hing al veel langer in de lucht.
  • Oplopende spanningen tussen VS en Iran [#24]: Poetin spreekt .... die discussie liep al langer.
  •   zondag 9 december 2007 @ 12:19:29 #17
    89730 Drugshond
    De Euro. Mislukt vanaf dag 1.
    pi_55142247
    Echt nieuw is dit bericht niet.
    quote:
    Analysis: Iran stops accepting payments in dollars
    By Derek Sands | Published Sep/10/2007 | Iran , Business | Unrated
    Economic sanctions, weak dollar

    Bron : wpherald.com

    By Derek Sands
    UPI Correspondent

    WASHINGTON, Sept. 10 (UPI) -- Faced with U.S. economic sanctions and a weak dollar, Tehran is demanding foreign energy companies do business in yen and euros, despite increasingly desperate need for investment.

    In a deal announced last week, Japan's Nippon Oil agreed to buy oil from Iran using yen instead of the traditional U.S. dollars. The agreement comes after years of Iranian efforts to shift its petroleum exports away from dollars and toward yen and euros.

    With refineries in need of investment and vast natural gas deposits in need of foreign companies for development, Iran is trying every avenue to extricate itself from U.S. sanctions.

    "In general, a key motivation is the U.S. informal sanctions pressure that the Treasury, and Undersecretary Levey in particular, put on banks not to do financial transactions with Iran. And increasingly designating banks with ties to certain Iranian entities as unable to perform the U-turn transactions for dollar-denominated transactions," according to David Kirsch, the manager for market intelligence at the international energy consultancy PFC Energy.

    U.S. Treasury Undersecretary for Terrorism and Financial Intelligence Stuart Levey has been in charge of coordinating U.S. sanctions against Iran since 2004. In recent months the U.S. Treasury has increased pressure on foreign banks not to deal with Iran, including so-called U-turn transactions, which "allow U.S. banks to process payments involving Iran that begin and end with a non-Iranian foreign bank," according to the U.S. Treasury.

    Shifting to euros and yen allows Iran some relief.

    "Overall it does lower some of their exposure to this successful yet informal pressure from the U.S.," Kirsch said.

    Iran has the world's second-largest reserves of crude oil, is the world's fourth-largest exporter of oil, at 2.5 million barrels per day, and depends on export revenue for almost half of its government revenue, estimated at about $46.9 billion in 2006. Japan is Iran's largest customer for oil.

    Iran's turn to the yen or euro may help in some ways, but U.S. sanctions are still a danger.

    "For them, I think it will make it easier, simply because the banks that it deals with won't be under the threat of the U.S. prohibiting turn-around transactions. They may still be under threats. Of course, the U.S. has successfully put some pressure on some European-based banks to stop transactions with Iran. That still remains a threat," Kirsch said.

    The United States began sanctions against Iran after U.S. diplomats were held hostage during the 1979 revolution and has ratcheted up sanctions in recent years due to Tehran's alleged support of terrorism, as well as its efforts to enrich uranium -- efforts that the United States sees as a covert attempt to develop nuclear weapons.

    Under U.S. sanctions, American gas and oil companies are severely limited in how much they can invest in Iran, and most other companies are banned from doing business in Iran. However, the United States has little control over foreign companies, and until very recently the U.S. government has chosen not to sanction foreign companies that deal with Iran.

    Increased U.S. pressure on foreign banks and companies


    But this has changed. The U.S. Treasury has stepped up pressure on European banks and the State Department has taken a harder line, warning foreign companies that operate in the United States to avoid business with Iran.

    The economic consequences of sanctions are not Iran's only motivation. The declining value of the dollar has also made the euro and yen attractive, if not for sales, than at least for saving.

    "There is also another key issue that you are seeing, not just in Iran, but in other oil producers, especially Gulf oil producers, is given the depreciation of the dollar, it is better to hold their reserves at least in euros, it is a better store of wealth. Some of the other Gulf producers will accept payment in euros. They won't price their oil in euros or yen, and even if they are receiving payments in dollars, most likely they are converting a substantial share of that every month into other currency," Kirsch said.

    Holding cash reserves in euros and yen may be a trend for the region, according to Kirsch, but a large-scale market conversion away from dollars in unlikely.

    "I think the producing states are becoming increasingly sophisticated in how they hold their foreign currency. But in terms of whether, is oil formally going to be priced in yen, renminbi, or the euro, I don't think that is going to happen. Simply because you would have to establish a whole new contract and an exchange for that, and that can be quite costly. It is also, you have to find a contract that the investment community is willing to embrace, and until you need to do that, I think they will be satisfied sticking with the contracts from the NYMEX and the International Petroleum Exchange," Kirsch said.

    Much of the world's oil is sold through the New York Mercantile Exchange, NYMEX, or the International Petroleum Exchange in London, both of which trade in U.S. dollars. Tehran has for years planned an oil exchange that would operate in euros but has yet to realize the scheme.

    A strengthened European economy has impacted trade in other Persian Gulf countries as well.

    "Throughout the Gulf, they are also seeing an increasing amount of their trade conducted with the European Union, so with increasing amounts of their imports coming from the euro zone, why not hold larger stakes in their reserves in that currency," Kirsch said.

    Whether Iran's oil is sold in euros, yen or dollars, the United States will likely not be affected by Tehran's decision.

    "I think it is going to have minimal impact on the dollar and minimal impact on the U.S. energy situation," Kirsch said.
    pi_55142264
    Economisch lijkt het me inderdaad ook een slimme zet van Iran. Ik denk ook niet dat Amerika hier iets tegen in kan brengen. Het lijkt me uitgesloten dat ze Iran gaan aanvallen. Waar moeten ze de militairen en het geld vandaan halen?

    Kortom tactisch is het ook wel slim van Iran.
      zondag 9 december 2007 @ 12:23:47 #19
    145172 gronk
    adulescentulus carnifex
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    quote:
    Op zondag 9 december 2007 12:19 schreef Drugshond het volgende:
    Echt nieuw is dit bericht niet.
    [..]
    Daarom vermoed ik dus ook andere motieven.
    I'm trying to make the 'net' a kinder, gentler place. One where you could bring the fuckin' children.
    pi_55142368
    quote:
    Op zondag 9 december 2007 11:57 schreef Lord_Vetinari het volgende:
    Toen Irak dat deed was dat (één van) de reden(en) voor de inval.
    is dat zo ja?
    oneindig...?
    dan is dus alle fictie werkelijkheid, en wel op dit moment
    pi_55142478
    quote:
    Op zondag 9 december 2007 12:20 schreef MrX1982 het volgende:
    Economisch lijkt het me inderdaad ook een slimme zet van Iran. Ik denk ook niet dat Amerika hier iets tegen in kan brengen. Het lijkt me uitgesloten dat ze Iran gaan aanvallen. Waar moeten ze de militairen en het geld vandaan halen?

    Kortom tactisch is het ook wel slim van Iran.
    Dit +

    USA heeft geen enkele reden meer om Iran binnen te vallen, daar in het uitgebrachte CIA rapport staat dat Iran zijn nucleaire wapenprogramma in 2003 al gestopt heeft.

    Wordt moeilijk verkopen aan de wereld als je als hoofdreden voor de inval aanvoert, dat Iran de dollar eruit gooit en dat het Amerikaanse droomleventje daardoor te duur wordt.

    Heerlijk deze zet van Iran, afwachten wat andere landen gaan doen
    Lawamena hitihala Lawamena haulala
      zondag 9 december 2007 @ 12:38:23 #22
    79128 HarryP
    mijnCV.com
    pi_55142571
    Laat zie die olie maar lekker met dollars betalen. Dan is ie in euro's lekker goedkoop.
    Dus goedkopere benzine.
    pi_55142664
    Zou wel bizar zijn als dit de gevreesde kettingreaktie gaat veroorzaken en maandag 10 december 2007 de dag wordt dat de dollar viel.

    US heeft geluk dat de Saoedi's zo totaal afhankelijk zijn van dollars omdat ze verzuimd hebben hun dollarreserves te verminderen en aan te vullen met andere valuta en dus niet over kunnen gaan op euro's ofzo.
    beter een knipoog dan een blauw oog
    pi_55142670
    quote:
    Op zondag 9 december 2007 12:38 schreef HarryP het volgende:
    Laat zie die olie maar lekker met dollars betalen. Dan is ie in euro's lekker goedkoop.
    Dus goedkopere benzine.
    uh uh dat hebben we gemerkt de laatste tijd met die dalende dollar
    "I'm the master of low expectations." George W. Bush, aboard Air Force One, June 4, 2003
    pi_55142671
    Dit is slechts de laatste stap in iets dat al jaren bezig was, als Amerika hierom Iran zou aanvallen was het al gebeurd...
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