http://mediamatters.org/items/200709210007quote:O'Reilly surprised "there was no difference" between Harlem restaurant and other New York restaurants
Summary: Discussing his recent dinner with Rev. Al Sharpton at the Harlem restaurant Sylvia's, Bill O'Reilly reported that he "couldn't get over the fact that there was no difference between Sylvia's restaurant and any other restaurant in New York City. I mean, it was exactly the same, even though it's run by blacks, primarily black patronship." O'Reilly added: "There wasn't one person in Sylvia's who was screaming, 'M-Fer, I want more iced tea.' "
During the September 19 edition of his nationally syndicated radio program, discussing his recent trip to have dinner with Rev. Al Sharpton at Sylvia's, a famous restaurant in Harlem, Bill O'Reilly reported that he "had a great time, and all the people up there are tremendously respectful," adding: "I couldn't get over the fact that there was no difference between Sylvia's restaurant and any other restaurant in New York City. I mean, it was exactly the same, even though it's run by blacks, primarily black patronship." Later, during a discussion with National Public Radio senior correspondent and Fox News contributor Juan Williams about the effect of rap on culture, O'Reilly asserted: "There wasn't one person in Sylvia's who was screaming, 'M-Fer, I want more iced tea.' You know, I mean, everybody was -- it was like going into an Italian restaurant in an all-white suburb in the sense of people were sitting there, and they were ordering and having fun. And there wasn't any kind of craziness at all." O'Reilly also stated: "I think black Americans are starting to think more and more for themselves. They're getting away from the Sharptons and the [Rev. Jesse] Jacksons and the people trying to lead them into a race-based culture. They're just trying to figure it out. 'Look, I can make it. If I work hard and get educated, I can make it."
As Media Matters for America has documented, O'Reilly has made a number of provocative statements about race. During the February 5 edition of Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor, in a conversation about President Bush's description of Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) as "articulate," O'Reilly told Temple University education professor Marc Lamont Hill: "Instead of black and white Americans coming together, white Americans are terrified. They're terrified. Now we can't even say you're articulate? We can't even give you guys compliments because they may be taken as condescension?" Other examples include:
* On the June 7 edition of The O'Reilly Factor, O'Reilly said of Edwin Roy Hall -- the man charged with murdering 18-year-old Kelsey Smith after abducting her from the parking lot of a Target store in Overland Park, Kansas: "[T]his guy who is charged has a child and a wife. You know, he's like white-bread guy. And we're all going, 'What is that?' "
* On the August 16, 2006, edition of The O'Reilly Factor, O'Reilly argued extensively for "profiling of Muslims" at airports, arguing that detaining all "Muslims between the ages of 16 and 45" for questioning "isn't racial profiling," but "criminal profiling."
* During the April 12, 2006, broadcast of The Radio Factor, O'Reilly claimed that on the April 11 edition of The O'Reilly Factor, guest Charles Barron, a New York City councilman, had revealed the "hidden agenda" behind the current immigration debate, which, O'Reilly said, was "to wipe out 'white privilege' and to have the browning of America." O'Reilly suggested that this "hidden agenda" included plans to let "people who live in the Caribbean, people who live in Africa and Asia ... walk in and become citizens immediately."
* In a February 27, 2006, conversation with a caller about the disproportionately few jobs and contracts that have gone to locals in the rebuilding of New Orleans, O'Reilly said: "[T]he homies, you know ... I mean, they're just not going to get the job."
* On the September 13, 2005, broadcast of The Radio Factor, O'Reilly claimed that "many of the poor in New Orleans" did not evacuate the city before Hurricane Katrina because "[t]hey were drug-addicted" and "weren't going to get turned off from their source." O'Reilly added, "They were thugs."
From the September 19 edition of Westwood One's The Radio Factor:
O"REILLY: Now, how do we get to this point? Black people in this country understand that they've had a very, very tough go of it, and some of them can get past that, and some of them cannot. I don't think there's a black American who hasn't had a personal insult that they've had to deal with because of the color of their skin. I don't think there's one in the country. So you've got to accept that as being the truth. People deal with that stuff in a variety of ways. Some get bitter. Some say, [unintelligible] "You call me that, I'm gonna be more successful." OK, it depends on the personality.
So it's there. It's there, and I think it's getting better. I think black Americans are starting to think more and more for themselves. They're getting away from the Sharptons and the Jacksons and the people trying to lead them into a race-based culture. They're just trying to figure it out: "Look, I can make it. If I work hard and get educated, I can make it."
You know, I was up in Harlem a few weeks ago, and I actually had dinner with Al Sharpton, who is a very, very interesting guy. And he comes on The Factor a lot, and then I treated him to dinner, because he's made himself available to us, and I felt that I wanted to take him up there. And we went to Sylvia's, a very famous restaurant in Harlem. I had a great time, and all the people up there are tremendously respectful. They all watch The Factor. You know, when Sharpton and I walked in, it was like a big commotion and everything, but everybody was very nice.
And I couldn't get over the fact that there was no difference between Sylvia's restaurant and any other restaurant in New York City. I mean, it was exactly the same, even though it's run by blacks, primarily black patronship. It was the same, and that's really what this society's all about now here in the U.S.A. There's no difference. There's no difference. There may be a cultural entertainment -- people may gravitate toward different cultural entertainment, but you go down to Little Italy, and you're gonna have that. It has nothing to do with the color of anybody's skin.
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O'REILLY: No, no, I mean, I like that soul food. I had the meatloaf special. I had coconut shrimp. I had the iced tea. It was great.
WILLIAMS: Well, let me just tell you, the one thing I would say is this. And we're talking about the kids who still like this gangsta rap, this vile poison that I think is absolutely, you know, literally a corruption of culture. I think that what you've got to take into account that it's still a majority white audience -- young, white people who think they're into rebelling against their parents who buy this stuff and think it's just a kick. You know, it's just a way of expressing their anti-authoritarianism.
O'REILLY: But it's a different -- it's a different dynamic, though.
WILLIAMS: Exactly right --
O'REILLY: Because the young, white kids don't have to struggle out of the ghetto.
WILLIAMS: Right, and also, I think they can have that as one phase of their lives.
O'REILLY: Yeah.
WILLIAMS: I think too many of the black kids take it as, "Oh, that's what it means to be authentically black. That's how you make money. That's how you become rich and famous and get on TV and get music videos." And you either get the boys or the girls. The girls think they have to, you know, be half-naked and spinning around like they're on meth in order to get any attention. It really corrupts people, and I think it adds, Bill, to some serious sociological problems, like the high out-of-wedlock birth rate because of this hypersexual imagery that then the kids adapt to some kind of reality. I mean, it's inauthentic. It's not in keeping with great black traditions of struggle and excellence, from Willie Mays to Aretha Franklin, but even in terms of academics, you know, going back to people like Charles Drew or Ben Carson here, the neurosurgeon at [Johns] Hopkins [University]. That stuff, all of a sudden, is pushed aside. That's treated as, "You're a nerd, you're acting white," if you try to be excellent and black.
O'REILLY: You know, and I went to the concert by Anita Baker at Radio City Music Hall, and the crowd was 50/50, black/white, and the blacks were well-dressed. And she came out -- Anita Baker came out on the stage and said, "Look, this is a show for the family. We're not gonna have any profanity here. We're not gonna do any rapping here." The band was excellent, but they were dressed in tuxedoes, and this is what white America doesn't know, particularly people who don't have a lot of interaction with black Americans. They think that the culture is dominated by Twista, Ludacris, and Snoop Dogg.
WILLIAMS: Oh, and it's just so awful. It's just so awful because, I mean, it's literally the sewer come to the surface, and now people take it that the sewer is the whole story --
O'REILLY: That's right. That's right. There wasn't one person in Sylvia's who was screaming, "M-Fer, I want more iced tea."
WILLIAMS: Please --
O'REILLY: You know, I mean, everybody was -- it was like going into an Italian restaurant in an all-white suburb in the sense of people were sitting there, and they were ordering and having fun. And there wasn't any kind of craziness at all.
quote:O'REILLY: That's right. That's right. There wasn't one person in Sylvia's who was screaming, "M-Fer, I want more iced tea."
Iedereen op de republikeinen na, vrees ik. En daar zijn er heel veel van.quote:Op maandag 24 september 2007 12:48 schreef thedude0 het volgende:
iedereen heeft een schijthekel aan die gozer
quote:So it's there. It's there, and I think it's getting better. I think black Americans are starting to think more and more for themselves. They're getting away from the Sharptons and the Jacksons and the people trying to lead them into a race-based culture. They're just trying to figure it out: "Look, I can make it. If I work hard and get educated, I can make it."
Herstel: Kapot probeerde te maken...quote:Op maandag 24 september 2007 12:43 schreef -skippybal- het volgende:
Toen 'ie die jongen had uitgenodigd, wiens vader bij 9/11 was omgekomen, en 'm helemaal kapot maakte omdat 'ie tegen de oorlog was![]()
Bizar. Ad hominem op ad hominem.quote:Op maandag 24 september 2007 15:32 schreef DrWolffenstein het volgende:
Klassieker:
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Ik zou overigens de berichtgeving van mediamatters met een korreltje zout nemen. Maar als hij dit werkelijk heeft gezegd dan is het vrij schokkend.quote:Op maandag 24 september 2007 12:36 schreef Floripas het volgende:
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Klacht: wat is Bill O'Reilly toch ook een gore racist.
Omg, @ 03:50 .. Wat een 'aparte' manier van interviewen heeft die man.quote:Op maandag 24 september 2007 13:41 schreef PartyCrasher het volgende:
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Herstel: Kapot probeerde te maken...
Hier te zien: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IwIRNM5noY
Super hoe die jongen zich had voorbereid en hoe hij zich sterk hield.
quote:Op maandag 24 september 2007 13:41 schreef PartyCrasher het volgende:
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Herstel: Kapot probeerde te maken...
Hier te zien: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IwIRNM5noY
Super hoe die jongen zich had voorbereid en hoe hij zich sterk hield.
Voorbereid of niet, ik had die man ter plekke op zn bek geslagen. Wat een lef heeft die teringlijer zeg, ongelofelijk.quote:Op maandag 24 september 2007 13:41 schreef PartyCrasher het volgende:
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Herstel: Kapot probeerde te maken...
Hier te zien: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IwIRNM5noY
Super hoe die jongen zich had voorbereid en hoe hij zich sterk hield.
quote:O'Reilly has learned that black people own and run restaurants too! And, despite what you might think, those restaurants are exactly like restaurants run by white people, with tables and chairs, and food, and everything:
O'REILLY: "And I couldn't get over the fact that there was no difference between Sylvia's restaurant and any other restaurant in New York City. I mean, it was exactly the same, even though it's run by blacks, primarily black patronship. It was the same, and that's really what this society's all about now here in the U.S.A."
quote:O'Reilly was also pleasantly surprised to find that black people can exist outside of rap videos, with all of their "M-Fer this, M-Fer that." Turns out, some black people can sit down and eat in a restaurant without yelling obscenities—just like white people!
O'REILLY: There wasn't one person in Sylvia's who was screaming, "M-Fer, I want more iced tea."
WILLIAMS: Please--
O'REILLY: You know, I mean, everybody was -- it was like going into an Italian restaurant in an all-white suburb in the sense of people were sitting there, and they were ordering and having fun. And there wasn't any kind of craziness at all.
O'Reilly is rechts, maar dan ook nog van dat ordinaire rechts. Die domme stukjes vol arbeidersnijd die je in Nederland vooral bij Rob Hoogland en Kees Lunshof tegenkomt.quote:Op maandag 24 september 2007 12:36 schreef Floripas het volgende:
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Klacht: wat is Bill O'Reilly toch ook een gore racist.
Dit wordt na een minuut echtquote:Op dinsdag 25 september 2007 12:47 schreef r.liong het volgende:
Fox News Geraldo Rivera geeft O'Reilly lik op stuk.
DIe man heeft gewoon ontzettend veel negatieve energie in zich. Als je links bent ga je dan normaal gesproken vechten voor de walvis, als je rechts bent in Irak. Maar geef dat soort mensen geen podium, of ze nu O'Reilly, Coulter, Van Dam, Hoogland of Wouter van Eck heten.quote:Op dinsdag 25 september 2007 14:01 schreef felic. het volgende:
O'Reilly houd gewoon van aandacht en brengt op zijn manier veel onderwerpen ter sprake wat dan wel weer goed is, afgezien daarvan is het gewoon een lamlul.
Volledig mee eens. Coulter is helemaal wanstaltig.quote:Op dinsdag 25 september 2007 14:13 schreef Zwaardvisch het volgende:
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DIe man heeft gewoon ontzettend veel negatieve energie in zich. Als je links bent ga je dan normaal gesproken vechten voor de walvis, als je rechts bent in Irak. Maar geef dat soort mensen geen podium, of ze nu O'Reilly, Coulter, Van Dam, Hoogland of Wouter van Eck heten.
Jaaa oke. Ik denk dat het vooral onderhoudende entertainment is maar teveel amerikanen geloven alles wat ze zien op tv. Ofzo.quote:Op dinsdag 25 september 2007 14:13 schreef Zwaardvisch het volgende:
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DIe man heeft gewoon ontzettend veel negatieve energie in zich. Als je links bent ga je dan normaal gesproken vechten voor de walvis, als je rechts bent in Irak. Maar geef dat soort mensen geen podium, of ze nu O'Reilly, Coulter, Van Dam, Hoogland of Wouter van Eck heten.
Woont Maddox in Salt Lake City?quote:Op dinsdag 25 september 2007 15:13 schreef WalterSobchak het volgende:
Maddox heeft ook ooit een mooi stukje over hem geschreven.
Je leest heel zo'n topic door een besluit vervolgens dat hij ee held is?quote:Op dinsdag 25 september 2007 15:29 schreef Beauregard het volgende:
Bill is een held.
Ik heb dit topic niet eens doorgelezen, maar ik ken zijn persoontje.quote:Op dinsdag 25 september 2007 15:54 schreef Floripas het volgende:
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Je leest heel zo'n topic door een besluit vervolgens dat hij ee held is?
Dat moet je me toch eens nader toelichten.
O'Reilly lijdt aan het Geenstijl-syndroom. Hij gaat aan zijn eigen provocaties ten onder.quote:Op dinsdag 25 september 2007 16:09 schreef Beauregard het volgende:
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Ik heb dit topic niet eens doorgelezen, maar ik ken zijn persoontje.![]()
Ik begrijp dat ie bij veel mensen het bloed onder de nagels vandaan haalt met zijn manier van "journalistiek", maar zo moet je dit figuur ook niet zien. Bill O'Reilly is een volledig subjectieve journalist, wat natuurlijk klinkt als een enorme contradictie.Maar dat maakt die man voor mij juist een held. Hij weet iedereen op de kast te krijgen met zijn vaak krankzinnige en onbeargumenteerde uitspraken.
Let wel, ik zeg niet dat ik het eens ben met de dingen die hij zegt, of soms schreeuwt. Maar qua entertainmentwaarde scoort ie bij mij hoog.
Eh, nee. O'Reilly gaat niet ten onder.quote:Op dinsdag 25 september 2007 16:16 schreef Zwaardvisch het volgende:
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O'Reilly lijdt aan het Geenstijl-syndroom. Hij gaat aan zijn eigen provocaties ten onder.
De mate waarin hij serieus genomen wordt. Waar is de scherpe en vinnige O'Reilly gebleven die hij ooit was?quote:Op dinsdag 25 september 2007 16:18 schreef Beauregard het volgende:
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Eh, nee. O'Reilly gaat niet ten onder.
Of kom maar met een bronnetje die het tegendeel bewijst.
Oh, op die manier. Mja, daar moet ik je wel gelijk in geven. 't Is voor mij ook meer een cultheld dan een held, hoor.quote:Op dinsdag 25 september 2007 16:21 schreef Zwaardvisch het volgende:
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De mate waarin hij serieus genomen wordt. Waar is de scherpe en vinnige O'Reilly gebleven die hij ooit was?
What thequote:Op dinsdag 25 september 2007 16:56 schreef Beauregard het volgende:
Vanaf de tweede minuut gaat ie ook weer heerlijk.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLPuGuaZTx8
Fox! Wat kunnen die toch heerlijk zuigen. Na dat Bill Clinton-interview heb ik dagen een goed humeur gehad.quote:
Dat was prachtig inderdaad. Bill ging compleet door het lint.quote:Op dinsdag 25 september 2007 17:33 schreef Zwaardvisch het volgende:
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Fox! Wat kunnen die toch heerlijk zuigen. Na dat Bill Clinton-interview heb ik dagen een goed humeur gehad.
quote:Op dinsdag 25 september 2007 14:14 schreef Floripas het volgende:
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Volledig mee eens. Coulter is helemaal wanstaltig.
Ik weet niet wat ik erger vind. Lange OP's, of types die de moeite niet nemen de OP te lezen en vervolgens toch komen kankeren.quote:
Kijk voor de gein ook even de Daily Show van donderdag de 27e.quote:Op maandag 24 september 2007 12:36 schreef Floripas het volgende:
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Klacht: wat is Bill O'Reilly toch ook een gore racist.
Zingt op de maat van "the Fratellis - Chelsea Dagger" Wat een drel, wat een drel, wat een onte gore drel ...quote:
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