[NBA] Season 05/06 deel 17

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Op zondag 9 april 2006 17:06 schreef popolon het volgende:
Ah, jullie hebben Ginobili nu ook 'gevonden'?

Goede speler, uitermate irritante duikelaar.

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Op zondag 9 april 2006 17:11 schreef BitetheBullet het volgende:
Weer een druk avondje vandaag

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Op zondag 9 april 2006 17:54 schreef Robertje het volgende:

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Welke wedstrijd?

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Op zondag 9 april 2006 17:58 schreef -Hans- het volgende:

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Inderdaad, en ook erg kort!

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Op zondag 9 april 2006 19:05 schreef -Hans- het volgende:
Maar goed, jammer dat de samenvatting zo kort was.

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Op zondag 9 april 2006 19:13 schreef BitetheBullet het volgende:
Ben krijgt wat dubieuze calls mee in de eerste minuten...

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Op zondag 9 april 2006 20:33 schreef BitetheBullet het volgende:
Indiana is echt een soft team geworden zeg

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Op zondag 9 april 2006 20:37 schreef BitetheBullet het volgende:
Ik was even eten, maar...

Ben heeft evenveel rebounds als de hele Pacers frontline

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Op zondag 9 april 2006 20:42 schreef BitetheBullet het volgende:
Had je nog Pippen met het Rodman masker gezien?

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Op zondag 9 april 2006 20:54 schreef BitetheBullet het volgende:
Ze hadden een special over Rip met zijn masker, ging hij samen met Dominik Hasek allerlei maskers opzetten (Darth Vader, Jason etc.) en corny quotes geven. Erg droog allemaal...

Maar toen kwamen ze terug in de studio en het eerste wat je ziet is Pippen met een Rodman-masker inclusief roze-geel haar

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Op zondag 9 april 2006 21:18 schreef BitetheBullet het volgende:
Dit wordt echt genant, natuurlijk ook de verdienste van de Pistons.

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Op zondag 9 april 2006 21:23 schreef BitetheBullet het volgende:
Indiana probeert niet eens meer defensive rebounds te pakken.....

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Op zondag 9 april 2006 21:27 schreef BitetheBullet het volgende:
Hoe lelijk was die attempt van Dale Davis?

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Op zondag 9 april 2006 22:45 schreef popolon het volgende:

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Tja doh.



Pistons hammer Pacers.

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Op zondag 9 april 2006 22:56 schreef popolon het volgende:
Ik heb 'm niet gezien.

Zijn bij Lake Michigan geweest, 't is zo mooi weer.

Had ook niet verwacht dat ze zouden verliezen, wel weer lekker cijfers weer voor Ben.

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Op zondag 9 april 2006 23:14 schreef popolon het volgende:
Pistons moeten nog vijf wedstrijden, waarvan drie thuis.

Detroit is dus eigenlijk al kampioen van het reguliere seizoen, dit gaat niet meer fout.

In de West lijkt het me gelopen gezien de stand, plek acht in de East is nog open.

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Pieces of 8

Bryant has been picking up the remnants of his shattered image since 2003, and though his popularity still wanes in some NBA precincts, his makeover has accelerated along with Laker fortunes this season.

By Mike Bresnahan
Times Staff Writer

April 11, 2006

The boos have subsided for the most part, although San Antonio and Sacramento still get a little boisterous, and Philadelphia will never let its native son forget his roots, showering Kobe Bryant with the same rude greeting its fans offered Santa Claus one unforgettable football Sunday.

Bryant has moved forward from a year ago, when the Lakers staggered to a 34-48 record, and has become the face of a team pushing for a playoff spot believed possible by only a handful of pundits before the season.

If last year's Bryant was driven and demanding, this year's edition might be more so, playing with an edge and impelling teammates to follow along his way, for richer or poorer. He hit for 62 points in three quarters against Dallas, then upped the ante with 81 in four against Toronto, maneuvering the Lakers toward a likely playoff appearance and witnessing an uptick to his image, which was shredded after sexual assault charges were brought against him in July 2003.

Bryant still declines to answer questions about the Eagle, Colo., incident, doing so twice in an interview with The Times, but he provided some insight into the importance of image, how he feels about the direction of the Lakers and what makes him push and pull on teammates.

"That's how I am," Bryant said. "I'm more determined than my opposition all the time. What you see from us as a team, what you see from us when we play now, we play with that edge."

To watch Bryant work is to witness an athlete dominate a craft with nary a smile — every possession personal, every miss to be scrutinized later on tape. He steps on the court with a scowl, rarely changes expression except to plead his case to referees, and then concludes games with the same glower, even if his final shot is the winning one.

He gave notice during a preseason practice, booting a water bottle across the court when the team couldn't make enough free throws to end a conditioning drill. Since then, he toppled a TV monitor and yelled at Lamar Odom after a last-second loss to Washington in December and, more recently, gave second-year guard Sasha Vujacic a healthy shove on the bench during a home loss to hapless Seattle.

Bryant says he sees results.

"You see it from Kwame [Brown], Sasha, Lamar, all the guys," Bryant said. "They play with that chip.

"Since training camp … I've been pushing them all the time to play that way just by being hard on them, being tough on them…. When you go into a hostile environment when the playoffs come up, you have to be able to respond to optimum pressure situations. In practice, I'll talk a lot. I'll put the pressure on them and try to get them to look within themselves and get confidence in themselves to come through in those situations.

"And then when they come through, you've got to pat them on the back. You've got to let them know, and I think they understand how I am. They understand that that's my leadership style. There's a million different ways to be a leader, many different forms of it. This is the way I go about it."

Bryant's first season without Shaquille O'Neal was characterized by a constellation of spats as the burden of a franchise in transition weighed heavily on 26-year-old shoulders. Left in Bryant's wake last season were tiffs with former teammate Karl Malone, Seattle SuperSonic All-Star guard Ray Allen, then-teammate Chucky Atkins, and a season-long barrage of cross-country insults delivered from O'Neal's new Miami address.

This season, Bryant has waged a tug-of-war with referees — only Rasheed Wallace of Detroit has more than his 14 technical fouls — and he received a two-game suspension from the league for elbowing Memphis guard Mike Miller on the chin in a December game.

Laker fans have adored his efforts, chanting "M-V-P" at nearly every home game, and some members of the corporate world — specifically, Nike — have edged up to the Bryant trough, although others haven't always shared the love: The January edition of GQ magazine labeled Bryant the fifth most-hated athlete in pro sports, a few spots behind loquacious football star Terrell Owens and controversial slugger Barry Bonds.

But the re-branding of Bryant was bolstered somewhat by his 81-point outburst in a 122-104 victory over Toronto on Jan. 22, a single-game effort surpassed only by Wilt Chamberlain's 100-point game for the Philadelphia Warriors in March 1962.

Nike, which signed Bryant to a five-year, $45-million endorsement deal in June 2003, a month before assault charges were brought against him, tested the waters last July with a two-page ad in Sports Illustrated. Nike then targeted February as a jumping-in point for Bryant's signature shoe, the Zoom Kobe I, with a "love me or hate me" commercial blitz during the All-Star break.

The commercial was shot last summer at the Laker training facility in El Segundo with a script that was "basically how I felt at the time," Bryant said.

"I think to a certain degree, it's something that everybody goes through. I just said it," he said. "A lot of people, whether it's a writer or a coach or whatever, certain people love your work, certain people don't like your work. In our position, people have a greater platform to criticize us."

Sales of Bryant's shoe has been brisk, not at the level of LeBron James or the ever-popular Michael Jordan, but in the same sphere as Kevin Garnett and Carmelo Anthony, according to analyst Matt Powell of SportScan Info, a pro sports retail tracking firm.

"Retailers signified it was a good start," Powell said. "I'd say it met expectations, for sure."

Despite his push-and-pull with teammates and referees, Bryant, who grew up the son of an NBA player and has been part of the Laker spotlight for 10 seasons, acknowledges the importance of image and the clout it can carry.

"I think that the things that I've been through in my life, I pretty much have grown up in front of the city of L.A. — positive times, bad times, whatever — and I think where my image really comes into play is being able to impact people in a good way," Bryant said. "Not everybody's perfect. I'm certainly not perfect. So I just try to help young kids growing up, challenge them to be better, not to settle for people's expectations of them or people casting a negative image upon them. It's tough to battle through that, fight through that and be better the next day."

Bryant, for his part, salted away one of the league's longest-running feuds, shaking hands with O'Neal before the Lakers and Miami Heat played in January. (O'Neal initiated the detente and Bryant went along with it, seemingly relieved it had finally happened.)

On top of it, there have been few problems meshing with Laker Coach Phil Jackson.

The player-coach relationship was a blistering topic when Jackson agreed to rejoin the Lakers last June, partly because of Jackson's withering critique of Bryant in a tell-all book, partly because of Bryant's lukewarm response to Jackson's hiring with a brief written statement.

Jackson occasionally criticizes Bryant's shot selection, and Bryant sometimes veers outside of Jackson's share-the-ball philosophy, but they have otherwise coexisted peacefully.

"Life's too short to be carrying grudges or whatever," Bryant said. "We understood one another extremely well from a basketball standpoint. The important thing for us was to put it behind us, move on, and accept this challenge we have in front of us."

Said Jackson recently: "I'm really happy for Kobe. I'm happy for myself in this regard that we just slip right back into that mode of concurring with one another. We've even picked it up to another level, where his leadership is developing to the point where he's showing caretaking capabilities as a leader."

As the Lakers struggled to stay above .500, Bryant had enough of a question about the organization's future to make a series of midseason visits to the Playa del Rey home of owner Jerry Buss.

The Lakers are over the salary cap until after next season, and Bryant's high-contact style of play ensures he won't last forever. Already this season he has fought through a sore ankle, balky wrist, sore hips, knee tendinitis, back spasms and, most recently, a bruised calf.

Earlier this season, as the Lakers were losing as often as winning, no less an authority than Jackson mentioned the importance of not wasting the peak seasons of Bryant's career.

Bryant, two seasons into a seven-year, $136.4-million contract, has pledged patience after recounting past Laker blueprints — win a lot, rebuild for a short period, and win some more — with Buss and team vice president Magic Johnson.

"This organization has done a great job in rebuilding in years past," Bryant said. "I've talked with Dr. Buss, spoken with Magic, and they want to win as badly as I do. They're going to do everything they can in their power to make sure that we do get back to the top. I trust them completely. Absolutely."

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High marks

Kobe Bryant and LeBron James are the only NBA players to reach the 50-point mark more than once this season. Bryant has done it five times and James twice (through Monday): PLAYER, TEAM PTS DATE OPPONENT
Kobe Bryant, Lakers 81 Jan. 22, 2006 Toronto
Kobe Bryant, Lakers 62 Dec. 20, 2005 Dallas
Allen Iverson, Philadelphia 53 Dec. 23, 2005 Atlanta
LeBron James, Cleveland 52 Dec. 10, 2005 at Milwaukee
Kobe Bryant, Lakers 51 April 7, 2006 at Phoenix
Dirk Nowitzki, Dallas 51 March 23, 2006 Golden State
LeBron James, Cleveland 51 Jan. 21, 2006 at Utah
Kobe Bryant, Lakers 51 Jan. 19, 2006 at Sacramento
Vince Carter, New Jersey 51 Dec. 23, 2005 at Miami
Kobe Bryant, Lakers 50 Jan. 7, 2006 Clippers
Paul Pierce, Boston 50 Feb. 15, 2006 Cleveland
Source: NBA.com

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Op dinsdag 11 april 2006 14:04 schreef Zwansen het volgende:
Bryant, mijn mVP-keuze voor dit seizoen.

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Op dinsdag 11 april 2006 14:12 schreef Zwansen het volgende:

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Het is ook niet zo zeer dat hij er zo ver bovenuit steekt, het is ook meer het gebrek aan echte MVP's. Nowitzki vind ik gewoon niet goed genoeg. Nash verdient geen tweede op rij. James heeft nog nooit playoffs gespeeld en zal ook dit jaar geen grote rol daarin spelen. Detroit heeft eigenlijk 5 MVP's en Brand's team is te ver weggezakt.

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Op dinsdag 11 april 2006 14:25 schreef Stansfield het volgende:
Wanneer wordt de MVP eigenlijk precies bekend gemaakt??

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Let's see your valuables, sirBy Ric Bucher
ESPN The Magazine

Anybody else sick of the MVP race already? I haven't even filled out my ballot and I don't want to read, hear or say another word on the subject. Of course, being the kind of guy who finds certain kinds of self-inflicted pain interesting, I volunteered to write a column on the subject.
This year, it seems, the MVP conversation began two weeks into the season and has never let up. Remember when Elton Brand was a frontrunner back in December? Didn't even Andrei Kirilenko get a mention after the Jazz bolted to that 4-2 start? Or was that his wife after ESPN The Magazine revealed her once-a-year-freebie for Andrei?

My point being: All the fuss about who is deserving and who isn't and what makes for an MVP and what doesn't is akin to debating what length of skirt turns a girl from sexy to a slut. No one's ever defined it and know one ever will. You eyeball the evidence and decide based on your personal tastes.

From all the conversations I've had on the MVP subject -- and, trust me, I've had five for every comment I've made on air or online -- MVP has a variety of meanings. For some, it's MEP, or the league's Most Excellent Player. For others, it's MVPOAWT, or Most Valuable Player on a Winning Team. Here's a popular one: MSIPOATTWBTE or Most Statistically Impressive Player on a Team That Was Better Than Expected. Generally, the easiest and safest pick is MVPOTBT: Most Valuable Player on the Best Team. This year has brought a new one to the mix: MDPDTSOATTFS, or Most Dominant Player Down the Stretch on a Team that Finished Strong. And, finally, there's MIP, or Most Indispensable Player, as in the guy whose team would absolutely fall apart without him.

If there's a reason to be particularly fed up with all the Let-me-tell-you-who-the-MVP chatter is this season, other than it's been going on all season and continues to mutate, that's precisely it. Without first defining MVP, and acknowledging that it's your definition and not necessarily anyone else's, it's like raging at your friends for not agreeing with your choice of Air Jordans.

So, for what it's worth, here are my choices for all above. And, yes, here's the disclaimer: These are my definitions. Acronymites, feel free to create your own, order your own hardware and have your own happy little award ceremony. The guy who eventually wins the real deal will not feel slighted, I promise you.

MEP --Kobe Bryant.

MVPOAWT -- Dwyane Wade.

MSIPOATTWBTE -- Elton Brand.

MVPOTBT -- Chauncey Billups.

MDPDTSOATTFS -- LeBron James.

MIP -- Steve Nash.

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Op dinsdag 11 april 2006 19:34 schreef popolon het volgende:
Makes sense.

Ik hecht er steeds minder waarde aan. Jammer.

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Op dinsdag 11 april 2006 20:02 schreef Zwansen het volgende:

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Het is geen award voor de beste speler he. Het is een award voor de meest waardevolle speler. Toch eits anders.

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Op woensdag 12 april 2006 09:21 schreef BitetheBullet het volgende:
Er is iemand bij wie er nog meer tijd tussen twee triple-doubles zat, maar ze vertellen er niet bij wie.

Ik gok dat het Abdul-Jabbar geweest moet zijn, er zulllen niet veel andere spelers 13 jaar tussen kunnen hebben zitten.

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Op woensdag 12 april 2006 10:29 schreef BitetheBullet het volgende:
Deze was misschien wel belangrijker, nu heeft Miami zo goed als zeker de tweede plaats veilig gesteld

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Op woensdag 12 april 2006 10:55 schreef Zwansen het volgende:

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Voor de Lakers.

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Op woensdag 12 april 2006 16:27 schreef Zwansen het volgende:

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In de playoffs toch?

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Op woensdag 12 april 2006 16:32 schreef Zwansen het volgende:

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Huh. Ik dacht dat we het over Karl Malone hadden...

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Op woensdag 12 april 2006 16:34 schreef Zwansen het volgende:

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Whehe, verkeerd gelezen..

Malone toch wel toen ie bij de Lakers speelde?

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Op woensdag 12 april 2006 16:40 schreef Zwansen het volgende:

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Jij zoekt zeker op zijn playerfile op NBA.com die niet bijgewerkt is?

Ik wist het 100% zeker. En ik heb gelijk.
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Op woensdag 12 april 2006 16:54 schreef Zwansen het volgende:

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Whehe. Wat een team was dat zeg... Of tenminte, wat een spelers. Een team was het niet.

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Op woensdag 12 april 2006 16:43 schreef Zwansen het volgende:
Ik wist trouwens niet dat Jordan ook nog eens 4 keer 2e was in MVP voting en een keer derde.

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Op woensdag 12 april 2006 17:27 schreef Zwansen het volgende:
Idd, Duncan die schot raakte over Shaq heen. Als de Spurs toen hadden gewonnen hadden ze ook de Finale gewonnen denk ik.

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Op woensdag 12 april 2006 17:28 schreef Zwansen het volgende:
Vette site. Sommige stats van Jordan zeg...

In 27 minuten, 14 uit 18 schieten, 32 punten en 10 steals.

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Op woensdag 12 april 2006 17:34 schreef Zwansen het volgende:
42 punten, 9 rebounds, 11 assists, 8 steals. Bijn Q-D...
44 punten, 10 rebounds, 11 assists, 6 steals...
34 punten, 7 rebounds, 17 assists, 6 steals...


En dan nog eens 7 triple doubles achter elkaar!
En 10 triple doubles in 11 wedstrijden..

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Op woensdag 12 april 2006 17:44 schreef Zwansen het volgende:

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En moet je nagaan dat ze toen nog niet eens blocks registreerden.

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Op vrijdag 14 april 2006 06:19 schreef popolon het volgende:
Dallas gooit er met de pet naar, die kunen niet meer lijkt 't wel.

PHX scoort vrolijk door, ik peer 'm.

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Op vrijdag 14 april 2006 17:33 schreef popolon het volgende:
Lekkere 7-0 streak ook, komt net iets te laat voor de Magic denk ik.

Toekomst voor de Supersonics ziet er slecht uit, er gaan verhalen over een vertrek uit Seattle.

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Op vrijdag 14 april 2006 21:19 schreef popolon het volgende:
Trailblazers zelfde verhaal trouwens.

Ik heb al geruchten speculaties gehoord over een NBA team in Grand Rapids.

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Op vrijdag 14 april 2006 22:21 schreef Zwansen het volgende:
Las Vegas Supersonics dan? Is dat niks?

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Op vrijdag 14 april 2006 22:36 schreef Zwansen het volgende:
Vegas heeft toch wel een sportteam? NFL ofzo? Of NHL?

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Op zaterdag 15 april 2006 10:46 schreef Multiply het volgende:
Heerlijke wedstrijd van de Lakers: Kobe 50 punten met 50% FG, Kwame 20 punten met 7 op 9 FG en Odom met een triple double. (16 punten, 12 assists en 12 rebounds)

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Op zaterdag 15 april 2006 11:47 schreef J-Will het volgende:
Ik vind Lamar Odom echt geweldig Met een goeie center erbij zouden de Lakers echt een geweldig team hebben denk ik.

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Notes: A victory on Sunday against Phoenix would keep Phil Jackson's perfect record as an NBA head coach intact -- guiding a team to the playoffs for the 15th time in 15 tries without ever finishing the regular season with a losing record. ...

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Op zaterdag 15 april 2006 14:16 schreef BitetheBullet het volgende:
Het mysterie is opgelost:

The 848 games that elapsed between Shaq's triple-doubles is the second-longest span in league history, behind Charles Oakley's 955-game drought between a triple-double in 1987 with Chicago and another 14 seasons later for the Raptors.

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Op zaterdag 15 april 2006 14:58 schreef BitetheBullet het volgende:

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Ik had het zelf aangedragen, he?

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Op zaterdag 15 april 2006 15:27 schreef Zwansen het volgende:
Ben Gordon!

Kirilenko!

Wat een stats

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Op zaterdag 15 april 2006 15:31 schreef Zwansen het volgende:

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Dat kan ik me idd nog herinneren. Niet lang daarna had Bryant toen 12 op 18 3punters volgens mij. Ook een record toen.

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Op zaterdag 15 april 2006 16:17 schreef Zwansen het volgende:
Most consecutive games, 20 or more points
35 - Michael Jordan, Chicago, June 2, 1991 - June 14, 1998 (current)

Highest scoring average, one championship series
41.0 - Michael Jordan, Chicago vs. Phoenix, 1993 (246/6)

Ik dacht dat Shaq deze nu heeft...

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Op zaterdag 15 april 2006 16:17 schreef Zwansen het volgende:
Most consecutive games, 20 or more points
35 - Michael Jordan, Chicago, June 2, 1991 - June 14, 1998 (current)

Highest scoring average, one championship series
41.0 - Michael Jordan, Chicago vs. Phoenix, 1993 (246/6)

Ik dacht dat Shaq deze nu heeft...

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Op zaterdag 15 april 2006 16:32 schreef Zwansen het volgende:
Highest average, points per game, career
(minimum 400 games)
31.0--Michael Jordan, Chicago, 1984-85 to 1992-93, 1994-95 to 1997-98; Washington, 2001-02 (30,652/990)

Die is ook noh niet bijgewerkt...

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Op zaterdag 15 april 2006 16:35 schreef Zwansen het volgende:

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1 seizoen?

Hij heeft er nu 30,12 tegen 30,06 voor Wilt volgens mij.

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Deze is ook leuk:

Most field-goal attempts, none made, game
17-Tim Hardaway, Golden State at Minnesota, December 27, 1991 (OT)

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Op zaterdag 15 april 2006 22:18 schreef BitetheBullet het volgende:
Hardaway roept nog steeds dat hij bij de Heat wil spelen

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Op zondag 16 april 2006 13:23 schreef Gi1337 het volgende:
Vanavond :
Lakers - PHX
half 12 @ Sport1
Lekker kijken

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Op zondag 16 april 2006 17:30 schreef popolon het volgende:

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't Is live maar toch twee uur later.

Misschien wil Sport 1 de 'foul language' eruit knippen.

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Op zondag 16 april 2006 17:34 schreef popolon het volgende:

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Nou ik vind het al een hele vooruitgang, hoe meer NBA in Nederland hoe beter.

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Op zondag 16 april 2006 17:45 schreef Ambrosius het volgende:
Memphis - Houston nu bij de NOS.

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Op zondag 16 april 2006 18:02 schreef Zwansen het volgende:

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Tja idd. Houston is al jaren het mindere team uit de Texas Triangle...

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Op zondag 16 april 2006 18:05 schreef popolon het volgende:
Jammer dat ze dan die wedstrijd laten zien: Memphis is al zeker van PO's en voor de Rockets is het seizoen al lang over.

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Op zondag 16 april 2006 19:09 schreef BitetheBullet het volgende:
Welke stream is het deze keer?

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Op zondag 16 april 2006 19:19 schreef Zwansen het volgende:
Basketbal is voor mietjes.

http://www.break.com/index/slamball1.html

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Op zondag 16 april 2006 19:22 schreef Zwansen het volgende:
Gordon raakte al 10 3-punters achter elkaar.

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Op zondag 16 april 2006 19:27 schreef Zwansen het volgende:

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Op zondag 16 april 2006 19:29 schreef Zwansen het volgende:

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Tegelijk. Nahja, jij 3 tiende sneller.

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Op zondag 16 april 2006 19:33 schreef Zwansen het volgende:

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Nee. Ik denk ik neem het niet vanwege de kutte tijden van de wedstrijden. Komt er gelijk een leuke om deze tijd. Neem het tijdens de playoffs wel.

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Op zondag 16 april 2006 20:03 schreef Zwansen het volgende:

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James natuurlijk.

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Op zondag 16 april 2006 20:18 schreef BitetheBullet het volgende:
Wat speelde Miami slecht in het tweede kwart

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Op zondag 16 april 2006 21:02 schreef ForzaRob het volgende:
yeah Go Bulls

als ze winnen kunnen ze zelfs nog 5e worden, niet te gek hoor!! hahha

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Op zondag 16 april 2006 21:13 schreef Zwansen het volgende:
Toch knap van Chicago. Na 6 of 7 jaar geen playoffs, nu 2 jaar op rij.

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Op zondag 16 april 2006 22:32 schreef Zwansen het volgende:
Hoe is het onderling resultaat tussen SAC en LAL?