Bom Boston #31 - het is waar tot het tegendeel blijkt

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Op dinsdag 9 januari 2018 21:35 schreef Wantie het volgende:

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En jij hebt bewijs dat hij dat heeft gedaan?

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We just absolutely annihilated the fence and pulled it back so we could see the victims underneath.

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Op woensdag 10 januari 2018 21:32 schreef Tingo het volgende:

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Gelukkig dat bus banden niet met explosieve chemicals en stukjes scherpe stal zijn gevuld.

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Op woensdag 10 januari 2018 21:23 schreef Tingo het volgende:

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Precies.Met 'n losse trainingspak overheen.

Depending on the ciscumstances...meeste mensen heel snel hun broek uit kunnen doen...:)

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Op woensdag 10 januari 2018 21:37 schreef ChrisCarter het volgende:

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En toch zoveel schade. Moet je nagaan wat die echte bom dus aanrichtte

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Op woensdag 10 januari 2018 22:11 schreef Wantie het volgende:

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Maar wat neem je hem nu kwalijk?

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Op woensdag 10 januari 2018 22:42 schreef Wantie het volgende:

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En dat blijkt uit het feit dat hij hekken heeft vernield om bij de slachtoffers te komen?

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It appears that the storefront behind the glass that blew toward the bomb is empty. There is nothing inside, and all could have been staged from there.

Even if not, considering the evidence that this was a drill, they surely could have reserved that portion of sidewalk for their "team", then everyone in the immediate area would be under control.

Everyone else would run, and the drill could proceed.

There are several officers in these photos, standing on the perimeter, not involving themselves with the drill. If a perimeter were maintained, then who would know?

The sidewalk viewing area at the finish line is highly controlled, everything is already in place for this kind of thing.

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You can get a loose idea of how they could have done it when you look at the scene can't you. Just theoretically I mean.

The bomb itself looks very small, doesn't knock over or scatter the people in the road, could easily be just a smoke bomb. But in the panic and the fog people won't be watching closely. Maybe a bunch of guys already prepped as victims are waiting in the empt store, run out and just throw themselves down, scattering blood capsules as they do so. No one will really be able to tell they weren't there beforehand. People are afraid and shocked and not thinking critically. They probably won't even go near the idea it could be fake.

Actors all around in the crowd are primed to take the story and sell it as more than it is. Carlos saying the flags were knocked down, when he knows they were pulled down by "rescuers." Other guys describing dozens of severed limbs. Where? I've only seen two, may three amputees on film.

Even those "rescuers" seem a little odd to me. They are so quick, so calm they seem rehearsed, and instead of heading straight for the supposedly injured people, they all focus on pulling down the flags and dismantling the barriers.

Ok, maybe we can assume they were making a path for the EMTs, but you only need a fairly narrow access point, certainly don't need all of them to be pulling the entire set of flags down. And when you put this slightly odd behavior next to Carlos's lie about the flags, you wonder - were these guys doing set dressing, making the blast look worse than it was?

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The store was a branch of opticians' by the name of 'Lenscrafters'. It was supposedly open and trading on the day of the marathon. Clearly this picture was taken prior to the 'bomb', there does seem to be hell of a lot more stuff in there than on the day in question.

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Op donderdag 11 januari 2018 00:18 schreef Wantie het volgende:

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Dus het materiaal en de acteurs bevonden zich achter enorme etalageramen...

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Op donderdag 11 januari 2018 06:04 schreef Wantie het volgende:

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One thing we can say is that Jeff Bauman lay on the ground for a period of many minutes before tourniquets were applied to his legs. Two minutes after the bomb, Carlos was taking down the fence, and he was the one to apply the tourniquets, so it was two minutes plus however long he kept doing the dismantling work before he got to Jeff, found a discarded sweater, made two tourniquets and applied them. During that time Jeff was conscious and moved around and even sat half up. He must have been bleeding from both lower limbs this entire time, and yet, the blood present on the ground seems about the same as from the immediate aftermath of the bombings.


Tja, het is niet zo dat je onmiddellijk doodbloedt als een lichaamsdeel wordt afgerukt.
Het duurt enkele minuten voordat het bloeden begint.

Hieruit blijkt maar weer hoe onkundig dit soort 'analyses' zijn.
Het komt niet verder dan: 'ik had iets anders verwacht, dus is het nep'.

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Op donderdag 11 januari 2018 10:15 schreef Wantie het volgende:

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Sure, zet alles lekker ver weg...

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Op donderdag 11 januari 2018 10:14 schreef Wantie het volgende:

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Ja klopt en als je ehbo had geleerd wist je waarom zo'n been niet onmiddellijk hevig gaat bloeden...

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Op woensdag 10 januari 2018 21:41 schreef J0kkebr0k het volgende:

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Apart ook wel dat het glas naar buiten lijkt te zijn geblazen ipv de andere kant op door de druk.

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Op woensdag 10 januari 2018 22:00 schreef Tingo het volgende:

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Hoezo?

Nee.

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Don't even start on hoodie guy. Too late, I started. Look at the way he is lying there. He is leaning on the other woman. That is a gesture of familiarity, and cockiness. He is totally relaxed. He is a perp, do you think. Did he actually fit the fake prosthetic in the chaos of the first few seconds? Well, put it this way: he had his hands all over Jeff Bauman's thighs during that time, and he manipulated some kind of physical object onto, or around, the right thigh. This is not speculation, it's what is shown in the pictures.

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Op donderdag 11 januari 2018 15:30 schreef Wantie het volgende:

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Al het glas had binnen moeten liggen kennelijk.

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Op donderdag 11 januari 2018 15:45 schreef Wantie het volgende:

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Omdat het scenario dat het raam door de drukgolf is gesprongen niet mogelijk mag zijn.