Hoe het er staat en ik het lees voel ik me blond want ik snap dr geen hol van.quote:Op zaterdag 21 februari 2015 16:46 schreef crystal_meth het volgende:
Als Reuters onder de titel "Pro-Russia rebel build-up near port city alarms Ukraine military" verklaart:
"There were no signs of a new influx of tanks and troops in the region as mentioned by Kiev on Friday. "
Tja...
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Het helpt ook niet als die rebellen 'op naar Marioepol' op hun tanks en vrachtwagens schilderen zoals in dat filmpje vanochtend..quote:Op zaterdag 21 februari 2015 16:46 schreef crystal_meth het volgende:
Als Reuters onder de titel "Pro-Russia rebel build-up near port city alarms Ukraine military" verklaart:
"There were no signs of a new influx of tanks and troops in the region as mentioned by Kiev on Friday. "
Tja...
quote:Op zaterdag 21 februari 2015 17:10 schreef SureD1 het volgende:
Volgens @loogunda een hoop beschietingen bij Shyrokyne (bij Marioepol).
@conflictukraine heeft een youtube link van Russische tanks bij Yenakijeve (allegedly) (oblast Donetsk)
twitter:loogunda twitterde op zaterdag 21-02-2015 om 16:29:32 #Mariupol area:07:20 #Shyrokyne: mortar shelling08:20 #Shyrokyne: grenade laucher fire reageer retweet
twitter:loogunda twitterde op zaterdag 21-02-2015 om 16:31:13 10:00 #Shyrokyne: tank shelling, as of 12:00 'the shelling is still in progress'1 dead, 1 wounded reageer retweet
Typische oorlogshumor.quote:Op zaterdag 21 februari 2015 17:16 schreef SureD1 het volgende:
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Het helpt ook niet als die rebellen 'op naar Marioepol' op hun tanks en vrachtwagens schilderen zoals in dat filmpje vanochtend..
En neem je dan je woorden terug dat het Westen Minsk II aan het begraven is?quote:Op zaterdag 21 februari 2015 17:31 schreef crystal_meth het volgende:
Ach, we zullen zien, misschien willen ze inderdaad revanche nemen tegen Azov.
Nee, waarom zou ik? Beide partijen kunnen fout zijn.quote:Op zaterdag 21 februari 2015 17:34 schreef Zith het volgende:
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En neem je dan je woorden terug dat het Westen Minsk II aan het begraven is?
quote:Russia’s new Armata tank on Army 2015 shopping list
Russian troops are receiving beta versions of a future armored tracked platform that could usher in the 5th generation conventional land tank, heavy APC, artillery and missile launcher and possibly fully robotic assault armored vehicle.
After five years of development, the Uralvagonzavod Research and Production Corporation has finalized manufacture of the first batch of Armata tanks and heavy personnel carriers. They have been included in Russia’s 2015 defense order, TASS said.
Reportedly, 20 units have already been manufactured and issued to troops for hands-on training.
The exact characteristics and appearance of the platform remain classified, though this might soon change as the new vehicles are on the verge of taking part in the Victory Day Parade on Red Square, May 9 this year.
A better chance to see these innovative battle vehicles of the future might be given to experts and public alike during Russia Arms Expo 2015 (September 9-12, Nizhniy Tagil).
The new Armata armored tracked platform has reportedly combined and assimilated all the last decade’s major developments and innovations in battle vehicle design and construction.
The platform’s chief tank (T-14) sports an unmanned remotely controlled turret armed with a brand new 125 mm 2A82-1M smoothbore cannon. Its muzzle energy is greater than one of the world’s previously considered best cannons: the German Leopard-2 Rheinmetall 120 mm gun.
The 125 mm gun has 15-20 percent improved accuracy and its rolling fire angular dispersion has improved 1.7 times.
According to Russian media, the Armata tank might also come with a specially developed 152 mm gun, the most powerful ever cannon to be mounted on a main battle tank.
The tank’s turret will also carry a 30 mm sub-caliber ranging gun to deal with various targets, including low-flying aerial targets, such as attack planes and helicopters.
A 12.5 mm turret-mounted heavy machine gun is reportedly capable of taking out incoming projectiles, such as anti-tank missiles. It’s capable of neutralizing shells approaching at speeds of up to 3,000 meters per second.
The tank’s crew is securely enclosed in a multi-layer armored capsule separated from the ammunition container. The vehicle is fully computerized and only needs two servicemen to operate it. Each can also deploy the tank’s weapon systems.
The tank’s targeting is reportedly done with an active-phased array antenna and a large variety of other sensors.
The Armata platform allegedly has a fully mechanized electric transmission, powered by a 1,200 HP diesel engine. For greater efficiency, maintenance and repair schedules have been extended.
Within its blueprint, the Armata armored vehicle has the potential to evolve into a fully robotic battle vehicle.
According to preliminary estimates, 2,300 units are required for the Russian army.
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*opnieuw in elkaar gesleuteld.quote:Op zaterdag 21 februari 2015 19:00 schreef TLC het volgende:
Tsja hoe wil je Poetin tegenhouden ? als iemand hem doodschiet wordt ie toch weer zo vervangen
Ik dacht dat de cyborgs aan Kiev's zijde stonden?quote:
Aangezien men meteen Rusland de schuld zal geven in zo'n geval is er niet echt een probleem.quote:Op zaterdag 21 februari 2015 19:14 schreef Romanus het volgende:
In welke vorm is de NAVO verplicht een ander NAVO-land te helpen? Hypothetische situatie: de Russische bevolking in de Baltische staten komen in opstand. Is de NAVO-verplicht te helpen bij een burgeropstand? Want als dat niet goed is vastgelegd krijg je daar ongetwijfeld ook discussies over: moeten we ze helpen of niet.
In principe is de NAVO daar volgens mij niet voor bedoeld. Noord-Ierland en Baskenland zijn toch ook nooit NAVO-kwesties geweest?quote:Op zaterdag 21 februari 2015 19:14 schreef Romanus het volgende:
In welke vorm is de NAVO verplicht een ander NAVO-land te helpen? Hypothetische situatie: de Russische bevolking in de Baltische staten komen in opstand. Is de NAVO-verplicht te helpen bij een burgeropstand? Want als dat niet goed is vastgelegd krijg je daar ongetwijfeld ook discussies over: moeten we ze helpen of niet.
De enige legitieme leider van Oekraïne.quote:The current Ukrainian authorities have no other way to resolve the crisis in the eastern regions but to negotiate with the rebels, former President Viktor Yanukovich says one year after the climax of the Maidan protests in Kiev saw him leave the country.
"Stop the war, stop insulting the inhabitants of the southeast, remove these labels from people. Give guarantees that self-administration would be sufficient for these regions to protect their rights. And this process should by all means involve European countries and Russia," he said in an interview with the Russia-1 TV channel.
According to Yanukovich, there's a lot of "accumulated resentment, mistrust and hatred today among those people whose families have suffered."
READ MORE: Europe, not Russia pressed Kiev over EU association – ex-Ukrainian PM
"Many people have died, a lot of people have been humiliated. It takes time to reach a level of trust that will allow us to live together. Therefore, a transition is needed. And we need to go step by step along the way of building trust," Yanukovich wrapped up.
Yanukovich believes Western countries, which a year ago acted as guarantors of the agreement between the current government and opposition, must take responsibility for what happened in Ukraine afterwards.
"Obligations have been taken by two sides - the power and the opposition, while the guarantors were the three foreign ministers of the three major European countries. I agreed to early presidential elections, constitutional reform and to hold elections to the parliament and presidential elections on a new basis. What else was needed? [They] had to carry out everything and then wait for the decision of the Ukrainian people," he also said, in a TV interview on Saturday.
Yanukovich, who has been living in Russia since last February, said he made all these concessions to avoid bloodshed. He is on Interpol’s wanted list, accused by the new Ukrainian government of embezzlement and financial wrongdoing.
"The very arrival of the three ministers in Kiev was a milestone. Representatives of the three largest European countries had arrived [the foreign ministers of Poland, Germany and France] and, together with the president, the current government and opposition, they prepared an agreement. What is this? Involvement? Complicity? In what capacity did they come? After all, they have initiated the process, so they should bear the responsibility," Viktor Yanukovich said.
Subsequent events, according to the ex-president of Ukraine, occurred due to the fact that the new authorities "were afraid that people would react very negatively to their actions, and they wouldn't be elected."
"So the war was unleashed to exclude people from this political process. And partly they've succeeded in doing so. After all, southeastern Ukraine did not actually take part in the elections. And if it did participate, then only a small part of the population," Yanukovich added.
Last February, central Kiev saw several days of bloody clashes between rioters and the police at the ‘EuroMaidan’ rallies, where approximately 100 people were killed on a single day – February 20, 2014.
READ MORE: Batons vs Molotovs: Former Berkut riot police recall Ukrainian coup
Yanukovich remarked on Saturday that the Ukrainian authorities condemned those allegedly responsible for the deaths of people on Independence Square in February last year "without charge or trial."
"They announced [guilty] law enforcement and the president. In my opinion, this is a classic scenario of the color revolution," he said, adding that at the time when he was in power, law enforcement agencies "practically had proof that these murders had not occurred in those places and that corpses had been planted."
Events on Maidan compelled Yanukovich to flee the country while the opposition formed a new government.
In April, the new Kiev authorities started an anti-terrorist operation against breakaway regions in eastern Ukraine, who didn’t recognize the coup-imposed authorities in Ukraine. According to the latest UN estimates, the resulting civil war has claimed the lives of at least 5,600 people.
Tuurlijk, het Kremlin denkt dat ze Yanukovich terug aan de macht kunnen helpen.quote:Op zaterdag 21 februari 2015 19:31 schreef Nintex het volgende:
Volgende stap van het Russische schaakspel, Yanukovich naar voren schuiven als integere leider die het land er weer bovenop kan helpen en hem opnieuw installeren in Kiev, zodat Oekraine een straatarme Russische sattelietsstaat blijft die leeg gejat kan blijven worden door Putin's kliek.
Dit.quote:Op zaterdag 21 februari 2015 19:31 schreef Nintex het volgende:
Volgende stap van het Russische schaakspel, Yanukovich naar voren schuiven als integere leider die het land er weer bovenop kan helpen en hem opnieuw installeren in Kiev, zodat Oekraine een straatarme Russische sattelietsstaat blijft die leeg gejat kan blijven worden door Putin's kliek.
Vergelijk Oekraïne en Wit-Rusland eens, Wit-Rusland doet het veel beter dan Oekraïne terwijl Wit-Rusland altijd pro-Rusland was en Oekraïne neutraal.quote:Op zaterdag 21 februari 2015 19:34 schreef Pharmacist het volgende:
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Dit.
Vergelijk Polen en de Oekraine. Duidelijk dat de EU een betere partner is dan Rusland.
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Vergelijk Oekraine onder Yanukovich met Oekraine nu...quote:Op zaterdag 21 februari 2015 19:34 schreef Pharmacist het volgende:
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Dit.
Vergelijk Polen en de Oekraine. Duidelijk dat de EU een betere partner is dan Rusland.
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