Natalee Holloway (in the rebound)

Ik heb me zo links en rechts eens verdiept in de moord op Natalee,als je geruime tijd speurt kom je veel te weten
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Volgens mij klopt het hele verhaal van naar het strand gaan niet en opgehaald worden door een vriend .
Dat is een afleidings maneuvre ,ook het verhaal van de verdwenen schoenen klopt niet en
Joran had na die avond een blauw oog .
{Joran has a black eye the morning after he kills her. The first story is he got into a bar fight that night{the mothers of two of Joran's classmates who confirmed that Joran did come with a black eye that he apparently incurred b/c of a fight at Carlos and Charlie's the night before.}
Volgens mij zijn ze na het bezoeken van die fun (Carlos and Charlie's )club naar zijn appartementje gegaan en is daar het een en ander gebeurd wat niet door de beugel kan .
Er is een gevecht of worsteling ontstaan en dat is de reden van dat blauwe oog denk ik .
Ze is verkracht door joran en die vrienden en misschien heeft die vader er ook wat mee te maken ,want het is heel vreemd dat in het casino filmpje de vader ook aan tafel zat ( zie foto )


Toen het daar nogal mis ging in dat appartementje moesten ze van het lijk af en ja hoe doe je dat het beste .

Nou vader vd sloot heeft een goeie kennis met een crematorium op Aruba.
{Funeral Homes in Aruba are both in Oranjstad and both owned by “WEVER”. Mementomori Director Yolanda Wever. Friend of Paulus Van der Sloot. }

Verder is er na enige tijd een witte truck geweest bij de familie .
Het was een furniture truck ( zie foto )
en heeft bewijs materiaal meegenomen waar bloed of sporen aan zaten ,ook werd er een nieuwe matras gebracht,meubels (etc) , de muren geschilderd en het tapijt gevacuum cleaned

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oh ja Joran lust ook wel een slokje

Het is zeker te vreemd
ook als je in een politie verhoor leest dat afgenomen wordt ,
aanwezig zijn Joran en de 2 broers deepak en Satisch
D = Deepak - J = Joran S = Satisch

Uit het volgende document blijkt dat Joran het niet zo nauw neemt en openstaat voor sex met meerdere mannen en 1 meisje genaamd Karen een prono actrice uit aruba
Karen Theresa Paulina – Allegedly was in porn video taped by Freddy. Joran admits to having sex with her multiple times.


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PROCES-VERBAAL

We, Dennis Domenico JACOBS and Luigi Angelo Giovanni CROES, head-officer and officer-first class with the Korps Politie Aruba, first mentioned attaced to the robbery project team (Atraco Team) and the latter with the section often occurring crimes district 2, declare the following.

On Friday, June 24th, at approximately 18.40 hours, we, the reporting officers, interrogated/interviewed the suspect:

Joran Andreas Petrus van der SLOOT born in Arnhem, the Netherlands on August 6th 1987, without occupation student (International School of Aruba) and living Montanja 19 on Aruba, for further information.

His statement that was given in Papiamento was translated and transcribed by me, JACOBS, into Dutch and goes as follows.

Before we, the reporting officers, started the interview, I, JACOBS, informed the suspect that he was not obliged to make any statement.

I, JACOBS, also informed the suspect that this interview is being taped.

"You are informing me that you have several questions for me and want to hear an answer to those questions. I am prepared to give them.

To your question whether I know a girl named "Karen" and whether I had a sexual relationship with her, I answer you the following. I know the girl named "Karen". I do not know Karen's last name. I had a sexual relationship with her but I do not remember the time period. (By Karen we mean the witness "Karen Theresa Paulina MARTINA"; remark JACOBS).

To your question whether I had a sexual relationship with Karen during "Carnaval" this year, I answer you in the affirmative. During the "fakkeloptocht" this year I was dancing in the "Last-Lap". I think it was near the bridge of the "Renaissance Hotel" when I saw Karen. I saw that Karen went to dance with Jaime CAARASQUILLA, nickname "Beto". I suspect that Karen was drinking at that moment in time but I did not see that. After the "fakkeloptocht" "Jaime CARRASQUILLA", "Freddy ZEDAN", "Karen" and myself walked to "Carlos & Charlies". According to me "Koen GOTTENBOS" was also with us when we were walking to Carlos & Charlies. Inside Carlos & Charlies Karen and I walked upstairs and started french kissing. After that Karen and me walked outside and walked to the "Pier" due east of Carlos & Charlies. When we were standing on the "Pier" I asked Karen if she could give me a "blow-job". Karen agreed to this and started sucking my penis. I do not remember if I was standing upright or if I was lying down on the ground when Karen gave me the blow-job. I have to state that I wanted to have sexual relations with Karen but that I did not have a condom on me at that precise moment. After Karen had given me the blow-job Freddy ZEDAN called me on my mobile phone. Freddy told me that they were going to go home and asked me how I would get home. According to me Freddy also told me that he was at that moment in time sitting in the car of "Chato". The name of "Chato" is "Leonardo" but I do not know his last name. According to me Chato is from Mexico. Freddy, Karen and me got a ride from Chato. Chato and Freddy were in the front and Karen and me got into the back. When Karen and me were sitting in the back I think I asked whether I had a sexual relation with her, I answer you the following. I know the girl named "Karen". I do not know Karen's last name. I had Karen give me another blow-job, something that she did then do. Chato saw then that Karen was giving me head in his pick-up. Chato drives a green 4-door pick-up of the Ford make when he brought us three, meaning Freddy, Karen and myself a ride to my house. I do not know the license plate of Chato's pick-up. When we arrived at my appartment the 4 of us went inside the appartment. Chato had a hip flask containing whiskey. Chato and Karen drank from the contents. I have to say that I am not sure any more if "Freddy ZEDAN" or "Fernando VIANA" was in the appartment with us. Karen and I went to lie down on the sofa-bed and had put a blanket over us. Karen and I started fondling and having "foreplay". Chato tried to pull the blanket off of us to see what we were doing. Chato asked me to ask Karen if he and I could have sexual relations with Karen together. On Chato's request I asked Karen if she was willing to have sex with me and Chato together. Karen told me that she did not want to have sex with me and Chato. After that Chato and Freddy left. I do not know where Chato and Freddy went to. Karen and I were on the sofa-bed. We started kissing and I fingered Karen. After that I had taken my clothes off. Karen then took off her clothes. At that point I was told by Karen to put on a condom. I went to my drawer and took out a condom and put it on. After that we had sex with each other. I do not know if Karen bled when I had sex with her. At no time did Karen say to me that she did not want to have sex with me. I can also not tell you anymore what the condition was of Karen when I had sex with her in my appartment. She had been drinking but I also had been drinking. We had also both drank from Chato's hip-flask. I don't remember right know what kind of alcoholic drink was in that hip-flask. After Karen and me had sex I went to the bathroom and threw the condom into the toilet. I have no recollection of what happened after that.

I only had sex with Karen three times. The first time I had sex with Karen was on the beach close to the "Havana Niteclub". I do not remember the date, but it was during a "Moonlite Party". On the day Karen and me had sex the first time we had both had alcoholic drinks but we were not drunk.

About two months ago I had sex with Karen for the last time. This happened in my appartement and on that day Karen stayed the night with me. According to me I had told my mother that Karen would be staying for the night.

To your question whether or not I had sex with a girl named "Stephania", I answer you that I have not.

To your question whether I know the girl named "Stephany BOEKHOUWER", I answer you the following. This year, I don't remember the exact date, Freddy, Jaime and me went to a "Houseparty" in Oranjestad. We drove in Jaime's car to the houseparty. The car of Jaime is famous because we had experienced a lot of things in Jaime's car. Jaime has a 4-door green "Honda". On that day Freddy had sex with Stephany BOEKHOUWER on the backseat of Jaime's car. I gave Freddy a condom before he had sex with Stephany. While Freddy was having sex with Stephany on the backseat, Jaime and myself stood down at the trunk of the car and drank alcoholic beverages.

To your question whether I had a relationship with a girl name "Rika", I answer you the following. Rika was my girlfriend but we did not have a sexual relationship with each other. We may have done some french kissing but I did not have sexual relations with her because she is 12 years old. Rika's parents found out about our relationship and that is why we stopped the relationship. I do not know Rika's last name.

This is my statement in accordance with the truth".

J.A.P. van der SLOOT

After the suspect J.A.P. van der SLOOT had read the statement he had given, he stated he would persist in it and signed the statement.

The reporting officers,

JACOBS CROES
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Vannavond komt de fam vd Sloot bij Paul & Witteman

ik hoop dat de redactie hier ook weleens komt
als ik ze mail dan krijg je geen enkele reactie ( 20 man ofzo ) terug
Ik denk ook niet dat Pauw & Witteman ze erg confronterende vragen durven te stellen en dat de te stellen vragen van te voren worden besproken
het programma is ook niet LIVE maar semi live dus er kan altijd in geknipt worden
met hun bezoek zal de zaak niet veel verder komen denk ik
wel is het appart dat de familie toch steeds weer de publiciteit zoekt
dat kan alleen om dat ze er voor 100 % zeker van zijn dat er geen lijk meer is
later hierover meer !

ja pa vd sloot heeft ook nacht van de verdwijning geld gepind
zou om 5000 $ gaan

weet iemand daar iets meer van ?

Als er iets gebeurd is met Natalee ,of in het huis van joran of op dat strand , en joran en guido en de 2 broers en evt de vader dan is dan is het natuurlijk voor die partijen zaak om van het lijk af te komen .
Hoe kan dat op zo'n eiland als aruba .
1) in het crematorium
2) de zee opvaren en dumpen met stenen aan het lichaam ( maar is riskant )
3) ergens van de rotsen gooien of in een oude Goudmijn dumpen .
4) waar nog niemand aan gedacht heeft >>> in de riolering
Afvalwater:::
Het huishoudelijk afvalwater wordt in een gedeelte van Oranjestad, de ‘tourist corridor’ en een gedeelte van San Nicolas afgevoerd via de riolering. Het grootste gedeelte van het geproduceerde afvalwater wordt verwerkt in beerputten en septic tanks. Ongeveer 30% wordt verwerkt in de rioolwaterzuiveringsinstallatie (RWZI) te Bubali en ongeveer 6% wordt ongezuiverd in zee geloosd.
dit vond ik op de site van Aruba .....
er zijn beerputten en septic tanks waar nog nooit in gezocht is .
ook wordt 6 % zo rechtstreeks via een pijp diep en een eind weg in zee geloost

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[ Bericht 0% gewijzigd door johan555 op 25-01-2008 01:08:26 ]

(interviewing prosecutor Hans Mos)

Peter: The confession of Joran. This must be something that you and your people have dreamt of the last years isn't it?

Mos: This is very impressive. It's an essential part that indeed lacked in our investigation. We have thought to ourselves that this was a very probable chain of events, but until now we lacked sufficient evidence. This seems to be the "topping on the cake" that we needed.

Peter: What do you think of the way he causally lets this out?

Mos; That's what impresses me. Clearly this is the first time he's confessed to somebody, this is his comimg-out. It's preplexing that he could hold his tongue for two and a half years.

Peter: You notice he didn't lose any sleep over this. He also talks with little respect about Natalee.

Mos: I find it shocking.

Peter: Will you re-open the investigation again?

Yes, this gives us reason to take a closer look at the investigation again. It's a very convincing story, especially because of the way it came together. If Joran is lying here, then he hangs himself in an incredibly stupid way, and that I do not believe, because he is an intelligent boy.

Peter: Am I sitting opposite a happy man now?

Mos: Now at last the truth is surfacing, and with that we can at least wrap up this case.

Joran heeft altijd ontkent dat ie auto kan rijden
uit deze foto blijkt alweer een leugentje