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  woensdag 14 februari 2007 @ 12:17:13 #201
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Pfoe, die Pras verneukt dat nummer behoorlijk
Heeft iemand nog een mp3 van die vorige versie?
Haters everywhere but I don't really care.
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Dit wordt vast zo'n CD a la Santana, met op elk nummer een guest artist.

Commercieel zal het sowieso gaan floppen, (normale mensen willen natuurlijk geen cd van een vieze kinderverkrachter in huis) hoewel al die trouwe Jacko fans natuurlijk gelijk naar de winkel rennen.
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No Friend of Mine is toch geen nieuwe single van MJ zelf? Dat komt gewoon op Pras' album
  donderdag 15 februari 2007 @ 11:25:17 #204
46906 Brave_Sir_Robin
He bravely ran away
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Nou, op 3FM verkondigen ze dat het een MJ nummer is...

is er nu op trouwens..
Galantly he chickened out...
The tale of Sir Robin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZwuTo7zKM8
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niet waar toch? of ben ik nu in de war?
Op woensdag 21 maart 2012 19:42 schreef Drassss het volgende:
Ben ik de enige die steeds Sideboobie leest ipv van Sideshowbobbie
  donderdag 15 februari 2007 @ 12:05:13 #206
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Ja, ze zeggen het idd steeds: nieuwe MJ track....
Die Pras rapt wel over MJ dacht ik, iets met moonwalken enzo?
Haters everywhere but I don't really care.
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Ik vind het niet echt een liedje van MJ. Hij zingt een paar zinnetjes. :x
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Raar dat ze dat zomaar gaan draaien dan.
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Toch moet ik zeggen dat z'n stem wel lekker klinkt in dat nummer. Ik ben allang blij dat Michael weer eens te horen is
Op woensdag 21 maart 2012 19:42 schreef Drassss het volgende:
Ben ik de enige die steeds Sideboobie leest ipv van Sideshowbobbie
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Moet je nagaan hoe hongerig de radiostations zijn naar nieuw werk van Michael Jackson. Als ze zelfs een demo van het web gaan halen, hoe gaat het dan wel niet bij een officiele nieuwe single straks?
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Is het nummer alleen op 3FM geweest? Aangezien 3FM wel vaker bijv. demo's laat horen
Op woensdag 21 maart 2012 19:42 schreef Drassss het volgende:
Ben ik de enige die steeds Sideboobie leest ipv van Sideshowbobbie
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Op woensdag 21 maart 2012 19:42 schreef Drassss het volgende:
Ben ik de enige die steeds Sideboobie leest ipv van Sideshowbobbie
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Flateus kiekje

Ok wikipedia staat dit:
quote:
Although the song is yet to be officially released, in mid Feburary 2007, radio stations began playing the song including BBC radio, generating interest in the song by its listeners.
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Jackson began his musical career at the age of seven as the lead singer of The guys with messed up noses and released his first solo recording, Got that ugly nose on my face in 1971, while remaining a member of the group, along with Mr.T and captain planet.
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Throughout his four-decade career, Michael Jackson has been awarded numerous honors including the ugliest nose award's Best-Selling Pop Male Artistwith an ugly nose of the Millennium, American Music Award's Artist of the Century Award[6] and the Bambi Award's Pop Artist of the Millennium Award.
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From 1988 to 2005, Jackson lived on his neverneverland Ranch property, on which he built an amusement park for ugly nose people and private molestation room that was frequently attended by children.
Op wikipedia.org. Wat een zielige mensen bestaan er zeg.. pff.
  zondag 18 februari 2007 @ 12:19:17 #215
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Michael was bij een show van Prince! Dat is vet gek! Ik dacht dat MJ Prince's muziek niet goed vond trouwens, of in ieder geval geen fan was.

*hoop-op-een-duet-graadmeter stijgt
  zondag 18 februari 2007 @ 12:56:31 #216
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Dacht dat er tussen MJ en Prince wel wederzijds respect was...
Ze zouden "Bad" toch ook samen gaan opnemen?

edit: holy shit, Bruce Swedien post hier:
http://gearslutz.com/board/forumdisplay.php?f=82

Over Bad
"Isn't it terrible how the press just can't tell the whole story???

I was there for a couple of the meetings with Prince and Michael, Quincy and all. Personaly I think that after meeting with Michael, Quincy, Fredy DeMann and his team, Prince realized that he couldn't win this duet/duel with MJ, artistically or other wise... And pulled out... He left the building, so to speak...

As far as I am concerned. I want to say that I love Prince's music...

Bruce Swedien"


"Before Michael wrote the lyric for "BAD", the working title for "BAD" was "PEE"...
Bruce"


Rest van de posts ook ff doorgespit:

"Man In The Mirror"....
As far as I'm concerned, the song, "Man In The Mirror" is the centerpiece, musically speaking, of the Michael Jackson album “BAD”.
I recorded the Andre Crouch choir on 'Man In The Mirror' with only two microphones. I used my favorite pair of Neumann M-49’s in the classic “Blumlein Pair” method. One of my unquestionably favorite true, stereophonic microphone techniques.
This is perhaps the best known of all single point stereo microphone techniques.

What is the effect on the choir in “Man In The Mirror”?
In my lectures and seminars, around the world, I have often been asked, “What is the effect that you used on the choir on “Man In The Mirror”? Isn’t that something?
There is NO effect on the choir on “Man In The Mirror”. Or very, very little!!! And Yes Boris, there is a little taste of my EMT 250 on the choir.
I try to explaining by saying that the recording of the choir on “Man In The Mirror”, is a classic,(But simple) stereo microphone technique! Of course, in addition, you have the best gospel choir in the world, in one of the best studios in world! (Westlake Audio’s gorgeous, Studio ‘D’, in Hollywood)
This wonderful piece of music has a graceful, natural sounding, dynamic curve to it. From the transparent, burnished brass synthesized bells in the intro, to the Andre Crouch choir that comes in at the modulation and, of course, the music climaxes with the huge ending.

Bruce Swedien


Re-issues
When we did the re-issues of "Off-The-Wall" and "Thriller" I was present at the mastering sessions with my old pal Bernie Grundman. The re-issue masters were made with my original mixes from the origiinal 1/2" master tapes. I think they sound rather good...

Isn't it amazing how people like to take "POT SHOTS" at Michael, and our music as well???

I do think the re-issue CD's reflect what I had in mind originally with my mixes better than the original releases on 12 inch vinyl....

Bruce Swedien


Thriller Track sheet
http://gearslutz.com/board/attachment.php?attachmentid=24241&stc=1&d=1158662673
Schijnt bijzonder te zijn, dat alles in stereo is


Setup voor Thriller:
http://gearslutz.com/board/attachment.php?attachmentid=24155&stc=1&d=1158440160
"Here is a photo of the two-24 track tape machine setup for "Thriller"...

Now you've seen it!!! Don't let anyone B--- S--- you! Two 3M M79's. Dolby's all around!!! Those tape machines were so quiet that you could record a fly pissing on a blotter with them!!!

When we were do'in "Thriller" the tech staff at Westlake Audio Studios on Beverly Boulevard had those studios SCREAMIN' for me!! Dave Harrison called me every friday and asked, "Bruce, is there anything that you need!!!" Holy Cow!! Makes me cry to think of that kind of dedication...

"Thriller" is NOT AT ALL UNPLEASANT TO THE EAR THOUGH!!!

Bruce"


She's Out Of My Life
I have been working with Michael Jackson since 1977....

“The WIZ, the Movie”

The year is 1977. Bea and I were living in the Chicago area at the time. Quincy called me one night and asked, "Want to go to New York, and do a musical movie?". I said "Absolutely!". Any musical project with my old pal ‘Q’ is guaranteed to be alot of fun. So off we went to the “Big Apple” to do "The Wiz", the movie. While we were there, working on the “Wiz”, we met this young, 18 year-old kid by the name of Michael Jackson.(Michael played the 'scarecrow' in the 'Wiz', the movie) Tom Bahler was there with us doing vocal backgrounds and arrangements for the film. We were at A&R studios, on 52d Street. Bea (my wife) had come to New York to visit me.

One day Quincy and I were in the control room working on something, and I noticed out of the corner of my eye, that Tom Bahler was at the piano in the studio, playing and singing a song for Bea. She was obviously very interested in it. The song Tom was playing and singing for Bea was‚ “She's Out of My Life”.

The following year, when we were working on Michael’s Solo Album “Off The Wall”, we recorded it with Michael. How Michael could do such a sincere interpretation of the lyric has always puzzled me, because I know it was an experience he had never even thought about. It's a very mature emotion, and Michael was only 19 years old at the time.

When we were recording Michael´s vocal, he broke down and cried at the end of every take. We recorded about six or seven takes. At the end of each take Michael was sobbing, actually crying. I know he was sincere, because when we finished the last take, Michael was too embarassed to come in the control room. He just tippy-toed out the back door of the studio, got in his car, and left the studio building. Quincy said to me, "Hey... that's supposed to be, leave it on there, leave it there.”

We didn’t see Michael again until a day or two later! I don't know how Michael was relating to the subject, “She's Out of My Life”. He´d never had that kind of grown-up relationship with anybody, I don´t think so, anyway...

Bruce Swedien


Every sound is different on Thriller
You must remember that when Quincy, Rod and I were doing these incredible songs, every song was done as a separate piece of music, and treated as such, In other words, every sound on each song is entirely differect from the sounds on all the others.

This is due mainly to Quincys production technique. If I were asked to use one unique label for describing Quincy’s approach to his music, I would have to use the term “Kaleidoscopic”. I would say that the terms “Fluid” and “Buoyant”, also come to my mind when I think of the music that we have recorded together.


The REAL Story on Billy Jean en "Smelly"
Recording and Mixing "Billie Jean"....

The year is 1982. The song is "Billie Jean". The sonic image of Michael Jacksons' "Billie Jean" is a perfect example of what happened, when I sat around dreaming awhile, about combining different recording techniques to produce a unique musical canvas with a tremendous 'sonic personality'.

Of course I was comfortably ensconsed in Westlake Audio’s beautiful new Studio ‘A’ on Beverly Boulevard, with my good friends Quincy Jones, Micheal Jackson and Rod Temperton. We were doing our favorite thing... We were making music!!! We had just started recording Michael Jackson’s album “Thriller”...

We were recording Michael’s song “Billie Jean”.....

I recorded the drums,(played by the fantastic drummer, N'Dugu) with as tight, and powerful a drum sound as I could come up with. Of course I put N'Dugus' drum set on my plywood drum platform. Also at this time, I had a special kick drum cover made that covers the whole front of the kick drum. There's a slot with a zipper in it that the mike fits through. When the kick drum mike is in place, in the slot in my drum cover, I zip the opening tightly shut around the mike.

I brought in my old pal George Massenburgs' spectacular sounding, portable, 12 channel recording console and used it to record the rhythm section. With it I recorded the bass, drums and guitars on my analogue 16 track, with no noise reduction equipment in the way of that fantastic sound!

In my estimation, the the result of the song “Billie Jean”, is a perfect example of what I call “Sonic Personality”. I don’t think there are many recordings, where all you need to hear is the first few drums beats, and you instantly know what song it is.

Great albums always start with great songs....

"Billie Jean" is just such a superb song! Of course, Michael wrote "Billie Jean"..

Quincy says that the lyric that Michael wrote is highly personal. I’m sure that’s true. Michael told us... it was about a girl, that climbed over the wall at Michael’s house, and was lounging out there, by the swimming pool.... she was laying out there, near the pool , lounging... hangin’ out... with shades on, her bathing suit on. One morning she just showed up! Kind of like a stalker, almost. She had accused Michael of being the father of ONE of her twins... Is that possible? I don’t think so....

When it came time for me to mix "Billie Jean", it was business as usual... When I am working with Michael, Quincy, Rod, Jennifer, Sergio and so on..... I am allowed total ceative freedom with the sonics of the music... In other words, I am always left to myself when it is time to mix. My mixes can take hours, days or even weeks.... I firmly believe that a mix is not finished, until it is on a Record for sale at Tower....

So I had been mixing "Billie Jean" for a day or two. I’d do a mix. ..... Say I was up to mix number 2.... (At that time I was mixing onto 1/2” analogue.) I thought it was killer!!!

I called MJ, Quincy and Rod into the control room and played mix 2 for them. They loved it!!! They were all dancing and carrying on like crazy!!! Smiles all around! Then Michael slipped out of the control room, turned around and motioned to me to follow him... Then he whispered to me, “Please Bruce, it’s perfect, but turn the Bass up just a tiny bit, and do one more mix, please....” I said to him...”OK Smelly, no problem”...

(When we were recording “Off The Wall”, Quincy gave Michael the nickname of “Smelly” because when Michael liked a groove, he’d call it “Smelly Jelly.” Also Michael doesn’t curse, and when MJ wants to say a bad word he’ll simply call it “Smelly”... The name has stuck...)

Then I went back into the control room to add Michael’s tiny bit of bass to my mix... Quincy pulled me over into the corner and said “Please Svensk... “(Svensk is Quincy’s nickname for me. It means “Swedish Man” in Swedish... When you have a genuine Quincy Jones nickname like ‘Svensk” - You are truly honored....) Q said to me.... “Add a little garlic salt to the snare and the kick. Just a squirt!!!”) so I went back into the control room and added a little garlic salt to the snare and the kick. Just a squirt!!! Now I was up to mix 20 on "Billie Jean".

Well, this went on for about a week. Soon I was up to mix 91!!! I had a stack of 1/2 inch tapes almost to the ceiling!!! I would do a few mixes, we’d listen... Then do a few more. We had it PERFECT!!! We thought we had a really ‘HOT’ mix on “Billie Jean”. I played Mix 91 for the boys... Everybody smiled... but Quincy had one of his funny looks on his face...

I thought.... Hmmmm.... Oh, Oh....

Quincy said “You know Svensk, just for the fun of it, can we listen to one of your earlier mixes???” My heart jumped because I knew that my earlier mixes were dynamite!!! Then Quincy said, “Let’s hear mix number 2!!!” Oh WOW!!!! Hallelujah!!! I love mix 2!!!!

We listened to mix 2... IT WAS SLAMMIN’!!! EVERYONE IN THE STUDIO WAS GROOVIN’ AND DANCIN’ and HAPPY, and actin’ IGNORANT!!!!

Well, here’s the deal. When “Thriller” was released to the Whole World by Epic Records, on Tuesday, November 30, 1982, it went to Tower Records with MIX 2 OF "Billie Jean" on it!!! AND, when the single of "Billie Jean" came out it was MIX 2!!!

The REAL Story of "Billie Jean"...

Bruce Swedien


en
Listen to "Billie Jean" again and think this thought... "Billie Jean" was recorded before the days of Drum and Percussion prerecorded "Samplers and Loops"!!! N'Dugu's drums on "Billie Jean" are one single 'Take' from beginning to end!!!

Hmmmmmm.....

Bruce

[ Bericht 49% gewijzigd door matthijst op 18-02-2007 13:27:38 ]
Haters everywhere but I don't really care.
  zondag 18 februari 2007 @ 17:55:07 #217
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Ja, heb ik al s gelezen, supergaaf. Als het allemaal waar is iig.
  zondag 18 februari 2007 @ 18:01:30 #218
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Mja, hij post met zijn eigen naam, neem aan dat hij dan geen zwetspraat zal vertellen...
Haters everywhere but I don't really care.
  dinsdag 20 februari 2007 @ 12:05:24 #219
10863 AgeEll
Caaartman, what a lovely voice
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Op woensdag 14 februari 2007 14:28 schreef PDOA het volgende:
Dit wordt vast zo'n CD a la Santana, met op elk nummer een guest artist.

Commercieel zal het sowieso gaan floppen, (normale mensen willen natuurlijk geen cd van een vieze kinderverkrachter in huis) hoewel al die trouwe Jacko fans natuurlijk gelijk naar de winkel rennen.
als het een topper word, dan boeit het niet wat hij heeft gedaan, of eigenlijk, wat hij niet heeft gedaan natuurlijk.

het moet echt een supercomback worden. hoop er zo op
MJ
  dinsdag 20 februari 2007 @ 19:41:02 #220
31303 Frozen
Nothing in particular
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Op zondag 18 februari 2007 12:56 schreef matthijst het volgende:


Over Bad
"Isn't it terrible how the press just can't tell the whole story???

I was there for a couple of the meetings with Prince and Michael, Quincy and all. Personaly I think that after meeting with Michael, Quincy, Fredy DeMann and his team, Prince realized that he couldn't win this duet/duel with MJ, artistically or other wise... And pulled out... He left the building, so to speak...

As far as I am concerned. I want to say that I love Prince's music...

Bruce Swedien"
Op de special edition van BAD zegt Q. in een interview dat Prince zich niet gemakkelijk voelde met de regel "your butt is mine", welke hij zou zingen. ( Bad zou een duet zijn. )
Vervolgens merkte Prince op dat het nummer op zich al een hit zou worden en dat hij daarom niet nodig was.
Nothing is real and nothing to get hung about
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Op dinsdag 20 februari 2007 19:41 schreef Frozen het volgende:

[..]

Op de special edition van BAD zegt Q. in een interview dat Prince zich niet gemakkelijk voelde met de regel "your butt is mine", welke hij zou zingen. ( Bad zou een duet zijn. )
Nou niet op mijn Bad SE Giel Beelen liet net No Friend of Mine horen in De Wereld Draait Door.. 't is een goed nummertje
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MJ is overigens weer aangeklaagd.
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Feb. 17, 2007

Pop star Michael Jackson and Marian Medical Center have been sued by the family of a Santa Maria woman who died at the hospital in February 2005, shortly after she was transported from a two-bed trauma room to make room for the entertainer.

The civil complaint, filed Thursday in Santa Barbara County Superior Court in Santa Maria on the two-year anniversary of the death of 73-year-old Manuela Gomez Ruiz, alleges abuse of celebrity status.

It blames Marian Medical Center and Jackson for the “outrageous, circus-like atmosphere they orchestrated during the last hours of Manuela Ruiz's life and its obvious emotional and mental lasting effects upon the plaintiffs.”

The plaintiffs, mostly children of Ruiz, are seeking undetermined damages. They allege intentional infliction of emotional distress, negligent infliction of emotional distress, elder abuse, false imprisonment and conspiracy on the part of Jackson, Marian Medical Center and Catholic Healthcare West, which owns the hospital.

Marian Medical Center said in a written statement that the suit appeared to be without merit.

“The most recent complaint appears to be another frivolous claim to generate publicity,” according to the statement.

The Medical center also expressed sympathy for the loss experienced by the Ruiz family:

“Patient care and safety is always our first priority at Marian. As such, we are confident the care provided to Mrs. Ruiz was exceptional.”

Hugh Spackman, the Santa Barbara-based attorney representing Marian in the case, said Friday, “Unfortunately, I can't comment about any of the facts underlying this suit.”

During his child-molestation trial two years ago, which ultimately resulted in his acquittal, Jackson was taken to Marian Feb. 15, 2005, complaining of flu-like symptoms.

The complaint alleges that due to what it called Marian's unspoken “VIP” policy for affording priority admission and prime accommodations to high-profile patients, Jackson was able to avoid court that day by basically “hijacking” the hospital under the guise that he suffered from a serious illness.

“Manuela Ruiz was dying,” according to the lawsuit filed by attorney James McKiernan of San Luis Obispo. “Michael Jackson was also dying ... but instead, dying not to go to court that day for his then-pending and highly publicized criminal trial for child molestation.”

Ruiz, who had suffered from a massive heart attack early that day, was placed in a two-bed trauma room, in a restricted area of the hospital, according to the plaintiffs.

Ruiz was admitted in critical condition and was put on life support.

Just after 8:30 a.m., “several nurses suddenly rushed into Manuela's room .... and without any explanation, hastily started unplugging the respiratory ventilator and disconnecting the other life support system machines that she was attached to,” the lawsuit alleges.

Informed that “a private patient” needed the room “to protect his privacy,” two of Ruiz's daughters complained that their mother was too critical to be moved.

The lawsuit asserts that neither Ruiz nor her daughters posed a “privacy risk” for Jackson, as they weren't in a state to pester him.

Ruiz, kept alive by hand-pumped oxygen, was slowly transported to an exam room with no medical equipment in it.

Life-support machines arrived at Ruiz's new room.

Ruiz had another heart attack, but milling crowds delayed her arrival at the critical-care unit, according to the complaint.

Ruiz died later that evening.

McKiernan said Friday that he initially discussed filing a wrongful-death lawsuit. However, after several experts reviewed records, McKiernan thought such an allegation would be difficult to prove.

“I think we should focus on the main problem, which would be the way everyone was treated,” he said.

McKiernan said the plaintiffs will let a jury decide the amount of damages owed based on the merits of the case.

The attorney said the plaintiffs waited to file the lawsuit so it could be viewed objectively, removed from other suits Jackson was facing.

“The primary reason was the family didn't want to jump on the Michael Jackson bashing-boat,” McKiernan said.

The attorney who McKiernan said is representing Michael Jackson in the case, Santa Fe Springs-based Brian Oxman, did not return a phone call Friday afternoon.

A woman who has served as Jackson's spokesperson, Raymone Bain, could not be reached for comment Friday afternoon.
pi_46501898
Ojee... en op Nu.nl: 'Michael Jackson duwde stervende vrouw uit bed'

pi_46502255
Dat was toch allang bekend, tenminste, het is oud nieuws
Op woensdag 21 maart 2012 19:42 schreef Drassss het volgende:
Ben ik de enige die steeds Sideboobie leest ipv van Sideshowbobbie
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Op woensdag 21 maart 2012 19:42 schreef Drassss het volgende:
Ben ik de enige die steeds Sideboobie leest ipv van Sideshowbobbie
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Trieste krantenkop van NU.nl zeg, gewoon roddelpers niveau...
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Ik begrijp de fuss niet helemaal om z'n 'comeback-nummer'. Hij zingt een paar zinnen en het is gelijk een grote comeback. Ben benieuwd als ie echt iets uitbrengt.

Hij hoeft iig geen rare dingen te flikken om aandacht te krijgen.
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Zijn er trouwens helemaal geen foto's beschikbaar van MJ's appearance bij die show van Prince? De 80s rivals bij elkaar.. daar moeten toch foto's van zijn?
  vrijdag 23 februari 2007 @ 10:52:02 #229
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Je zou het denken he, mischien samen op de foto?
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Als überhaupt waar is, wat ik niet geneigd ben om te denken. Nergens op het net is een soortgelijk bericht namelijk te vinden. Waar had jij het bericht vandaan, Pido?
pi_46595453
Ik geloof het wel hoor, want er zijn sowieso geen foto's van MJ uit Las Vegas. Alleen een paar waarop hij poseert met wat bekende mensen.
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Maar dan nog is het toch wel te vermelden waard wanneer MJ bij een optreden van prince is geweest? Ook in tekst is er niets over terug te vinden...
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Ik denk omdat het geen nieuwswaarde heeft, behalve voor MJ-fans. Roger Friedman schijft er wel over: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,253280,00.html
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But I'm told the track — called "No Friend of Mine" — is simply recycled from 1995, when Pras and the Fugees worked with Jackson remixing songs from Jackson's 11-year-old, poor-selling "Blood on the Dance Floor" CD.
Hm, lijkt me niet.. aangezien zijn stem erg klinkt zoals in de Invincible era.
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Poor-selling, poor-selling... voor een remix album niet slecht. Wat zeg ik, het is het best verkochte remix-album aller tijden. Kan die Roger Friedman vast niet verkroppen
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Ach, Roger Friedman..
  zaterdag 24 februari 2007 @ 13:10:12 #237
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Geen basketbal fan!
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Voor een Michael Jackson album was het gewoon een drama. Zowel de verkoopcijfers als de kwaliteit van het album zijn gewoon slecht. Je moet hem vergelijken met wat 'ie eerder gedaan heeft en niet met andere artiesten vind ik. Misschien is het voor een remix album (vergeleken met andere artiesten) een goed verkopend album, maar voor Michael Jackson maatstaven is het dramatisch.
Net als Invincible eigenlijk. Dat is ook een slecht album, in alle opzichten. Als je die laatste twee albums (BOTD, Invincible) vergelijkt met de vier voorgaande (Thriller, Bad, Dangerous, HIStory), weet ik niet of we wel blij moeten zijn met een comeback. Want ik vrees eerlijk gezegd dat hij de ingezette lijn naar beneden doortrekt. En dat haalt het laatste stukje glans van z'n carriere.
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Ja zo ziet het volk het. Thriller is goed, vanaf dan downhill. Maar de fijnproever weet dat dat niet helemaal waar is.
pi_46624958
Dat is idd de mening van de (over het algemeen) niet-fans. Als je fan bent zie je dat er op Bad, Dangerous, HIStory, BOTDF en Invincible ook parels staan (ik zal niet ontkennen dat BOTDF & Invincible slechter zijn dan z'n vorige albums).

Goede nummers op de 'slechte' albums:

HIStory: They Don't Care About Us, Stranger In Moscow, Earth Song, You Are Not Alone, Tabloid Junkie, 2Bad, This Time Around

BOTDF: Blood On The Dancefloor, Ghosts, Is It Scary? (van de 5 'nieuwe' songs)

Invincible: Unbreakable, Heartbreaker, Break of Dawn, You Rock My World, Whatever Happens
  zaterdag 24 februari 2007 @ 16:46:37 #240
164953 Cavalier1
Geen basketbal fan!
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Ik ben wel degelijk een fan van Jackson's muziek. Ik vind Thriller, (vooral) Bad, Dangerous en HIStory briljante albums.
Maar Off the Wall trekt me niet echt, en de laatste twee vind ik echt ver onder de maat. Ondanks dat er inderdaad wel een paar goede nummers opstaan. Ik vind bijvoorbeeld 2000 Watts goed.
Verder komt het natuurlijk ook voor een deel op persoonlijke smaak aan, maar er is niemand die de laatste twee albums beter vindt dan de vier die ik hierboven noem. En niks wijst erop dat het weer beter gaat worden.
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Ja dikke kans dat het nog kutter wordt dan Invincible. Maar hij kan het proberen, baat het niet dan schaadt het niet; z'n populariteit zit toch zo rond het vriespunt. Alleen wanneer het weer flopt moet hij niet meer met die "Racist" bordjes gaan zwaaien. Dat wat echt tenenkrommend
  zaterdag 24 februari 2007 @ 17:35:07 #242
164953 Cavalier1
Geen basketbal fan!
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Het zou toch een grote vernedering zijn als het nieuwe album weer flopt. Ik vrees dat ie dat niet aan kan.
  zaterdag 24 februari 2007 @ 18:41:04 #243
46906 Brave_Sir_Robin
He bravely ran away
pi_46630619
Hoezo niet aan kan?

gaat hij dan dood ofzo...
Galantly he chickened out...
The tale of Sir Robin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZwuTo7zKM8
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Er zijn meer mensen dan je denkt, die dat van MJ denken hoor. "Binnen een paar jaar is hij dood". Dit omdat hij onregulier oogt, en dus per definitie niet goed. Ook komt hij niet altijd even stabiel/sterk over. Dit terwijl MJ toch wel bewezen heeft mentaal juist erg sterk te zijn, gezien de shit die hij al jaren over zich heenkrijgt.
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Ja ik denk ook dat hij er zo langzamerhand wel aan gewend is. Bij alles wat hij de afgelopen 15 jaar heeft gedaan kreeg 'ie een lading schijt over zich heen van de media, en waar vroeger alles wat hij aanraakte in goud veranderde verandert dat nu direct in uitwerpselen. Een flopje meer of minder, who cares. Kom maar op met dat album!
  zondag 25 februari 2007 @ 10:55:23 #246
164953 Cavalier1
Geen basketbal fan!
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Ja, z'n geest is nog helemaal normaal
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Op zondag 25 februari 2007 10:55 schreef Cavalier1 het volgende:
Ja, z'n geest is nog helemaal normaal
Dat werd geloof ik niet beweerd
Op woensdag 21 maart 2012 19:42 schreef Drassss het volgende:
Ben ik de enige die steeds Sideboobie leest ipv van Sideshowbobbie
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Pop superstar MICHAEL JACKSON has reportedly agreed to stage a comeback tour alongside THE JACKSON 5. The 48-year-old recently met with brothers JERMAINE, RANDY, MARLON, TITO and JACKIE and sisters JANET and REBBIE in Las Vegas to discuss the road trip. According to US celebrity writer ROGER FRIEDMAN the idea for Jackson to tour with his family members came about after the THRILLER singer found he has been unable to secure a record deal as a solo artist. Friedman writes: "A successful Jackson family tour could change everything for Michael. "It would also be a financial boon to a family that needs cash in a hurry."

source: http://contactmusic.com/n(...)0jackson%205_1023147

Hmm.. of er iets van waar is?
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Op zaterdag 24 februari 2007 16:46 schreef Cavalier1 het volgende:
Ik vind bijvoorbeeld 2000 Watts goed.
Qua sfeer vind ik dat inderdaad een van de betere nummers op Invincible, alleen jammer dat de stem absoluut niet lijkt op die van MJ! Je zou het niet raden als je 't niet zou weten Het had (zoals zoveel nummers) zoveel beter gekund...
Nothing has changed. Everything has changed.
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Op maandag 26 februari 2007 16:38 schreef Rnnz het volgende:
Pop superstar MICHAEL JACKSON has reportedly agreed to stage a comeback tour alongside THE JACKSON 5. The 48-year-old recently met with brothers JERMAINE, RANDY, MARLON, TITO and JACKIE and sisters JANET and REBBIE in Las Vegas to discuss the road trip. According to US celebrity writer ROGER FRIEDMAN the idea for Jackson to tour with his family members came about after the THRILLER singer found he has been unable to secure a record deal as a solo artist. Friedman writes: "A successful Jackson family tour could change everything for Michael. "It would also be a financial boon to a family that needs cash in a hurry."

source: http://contactmusic.com/n(...)0jackson%205_1023147

Hmm.. of er iets van waar is?
Prachtig altijd dat sarcastische toontje van die Friedman. Na al die jaren mag hij Michael nog steeds niet om de één of andere reden.

Maar of er wat van waar is? Zo'n bericht horen we al jaren en tot op de dag van vandaag is er vrij weinig van gekomen...
Op woensdag 21 maart 2012 19:42 schreef Drassss het volgende:
Ben ik de enige die steeds Sideboobie leest ipv van Sideshowbobbie
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