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Voor de leken heb ik ff een stukje geknipt over wat ambient nou precies is:

Ambient music has a rhythmic or trance-like nature, with (generally) electronic keyboards and/or space music melodies or themes. Notably, it is the consistent combination of varying elements that provides a common thread or theme throughout ambient music. Today's ambient music, usually referred to as "New Ambient" or "Ambient Dub," means full of rhythms, for dance or trance, body movement or mind relaxation mode, and often sounds floaty or "groovy," with drop-out beats, tribal treats, ethno-primitive, textural and/or cyber-phonic music. Curiously, the previous view or definition of ambient music suggested no rhythm, carving backgrounds that were potentially fertile foregrounds, a la Eno, Budd, Roach, Stearns, Schulze or early Tangerine Dream. Ambient music grew into its own genre out of the "chill-out" rooms that became a part of the rave scene, a place to escape the pounding, throbbing techno beats (often in excess of 160-180beats per minute!), where DJ's mixed together nature sounds, New Age music tracks, and tape loops or other sound samples. As greater skill emerged in the molding of these sound spaces, CDs were issued which were usually compilations - Excursions in Ambience, From Here to Tranquillity, United States of Ambience, Ambient Dub, Ambient Extractions, Chill Out, Feed Your Head, One A.D., etc. As we watch the ever-evolving growth and fast-rising emergence, and acceptance, of this genre, we often hear terms like "mutated," or "deconstructed" - i.e. anti-categorization at best.

What are the sub-genres of Ambient music? With examples of each.

I see seven different types of Ambient music. There is, of course, much crossover, as there is in any style. But I will cast these as currently definitive, & feel that at the very least they act as a good guide.

Ambient Dub with a bass backbeat and reggae elements, echoey electronics...
One A.D. series from Waveform, Excursions in Ambience series, Zero One, Patchwork, Higher Intelligence Agency, Sounds From The Ground, Ambient Odyssey series

Ambient Space derived from New Age/Space music, less rhythm, long tracks
Deeper Than Space, Pete Namlook's FAX series (re; Air), Barramundi series, Instinct Ambient

Ambient World cross-cultural, dense rhythm tracks, vocals more predominant
Loop Guru, Banco De Gaia, Makyo, Atman, Global Spirit, Tya, Waterbone,, Transglobal Communication, Professor Trance, Nomad, Electric Skychurch, Pangea, Tom Vedvik

Ambient Pop can sit just as easily in the rock/pop section; rock idioms, vocals
William Orbit, Enigma, Babble, Delerium, One Dove,

Ambient Electronic descendants of Tangerine Dream, European electronics
Synaesthesia, United States of Ambience series, Global Communication, Biosphere,

Electronica the current "rage" in the press, and moving up the charts
Chemical Brothers, Future Sound of London, Orb, Moby, Orbital, Underworld,...

Ambient Techno softened yet techno nonetheless; heavier beats, harder edges
OM, Aphex Twin (some, not all), Freaky Chacra, Trance-Europe Express series

Trip Hop -softened yet techno nonetheless; heavier beats, harder edges
Trip Hop Test series, Trip Hop Samplers, Future Sound of Jazz, Five-Star Galaxy, Frosty

How is ambient music different than new age or space music?

New Age music, while commonly used as a "banner" heading, can still be separated as a specific style, generally void of rhythm, meditative, relaxing, etc. Similarly, Space music is a specific type, as represented by Jonn Serrie, Kevin Braheny, Steve Roach, etc. It conjures up either outer "space" or "inner space", and is heard in Planetariums, on massage tables, and as soundtracks to many videos and movies. As explained above, Ambient music is a broader term, encompassing (at least) six sub-genres, part of which includes New Age or Space music.

Also, a new generation of musicians, meaning usually a younger generation, that have come from techno, dance, rock and punk realms rather than a general tracing back to New Age ideas or circles that was prevalent 10-15years ago and mostly since. While Brian Eno has been (reluctantly) lumped into New Age association, he has much more "fathered" this generation than perhaps anyone else.

Part of this is strictly nomenclature, and which term is more appropriate for the overall general section. Most stores in the record industry have a New Age section; some may be tempted to call it Ambient and hence can finally discard the New Age term. But let's not be hasty! The New Age banner fits nicely over the whole section - for record stores. But for bookstores and specialty stores it's different. Their categories tend to be more along the lines of tribal, meditative, world, drumming, vocals, Native American, Celtic, shamanic, massage, guitar, piano i.e. by instrument, "usage," or music type, as perhaps all of their titles fit under the broad New Age term. And that leaves room to segment or group the ambient titles, shown above as examples, to tie into certain radio shows, local dance venues, etc.

Where is modern instrumental music heading now?

Several directions simultaneously! And, yes, it is specific... Most of this map has been laid out and clarified over the past 10-12 years. Suppose you were to draw a wheel. Each spoke, tracing a thin pie-shape out of the whole, would contribute to the modern or "New Ambient" movement: new age, neo-classical, space, electronic, ambient, progressive, jazzy, tribal, world, folk, ensemble, acoustic, meditative, and back to new age...The order and placement is no accident; each comes in and out of the previous, leading into the next, with shades of overlap and crossover visible at every turn.

Each "type" has its own history, its own cornerstones and "hall of fame "artists and titles. Each has crystallized and grown, achieving greater artistry over time, and becoming more recognizable in the marketplace. A more far-reaching answer addresses the real challenge, which is dictated by today's machines i.e. synthesizers, and how their use and placement is balanced by human kind's ability to interface with the machines. Man's inherent ability to adjust artistic integrity in keeping with the times demands sensitivity to the roots, the spirit of the music, the calling of past generations and the need for continual originality. More in this hybrid ambient music than perhaps anywhere else is this challenge being met; that is why people are responding so favorably to the combining of elements - rhythm 'n' space, tribal cultural intermixes that open the mind and move the body.

www.ambient.us

linkjes van eerdere ambient gerelateerde topics:

Aphex Twin: Selected Ambient Works 85-92
Wat zijn je favoriete ambient/IDM albums?
Griezelige ambientmuziek

Discussier hier over ambient albums, post de nieuwste releases, de oude klassiekers etc. etc. Hier eerst een paar klassiekers:

Aphex Twin; selected ambient works 85-92
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Aphex's music takes you you through the spectrum of emotions and even manages to introduce you to a few you didn't know you had. This is probably his finest moment, the sounds on this offering are truly original (aphex either builds or modifys his own equipment)and are strung together by an musical imagination equaled only by Brian Eno at his best.
Global communication - 76:14
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Every single piece oozes class and meaning. The subtle rhythms are judged to perfection, the melodic motifs scream to be played over and over again. Each individual track is a time capsule of magnificence with tardis-like credentials containing so much wealth within fleeting minutes. Phil White deserves much praise for switching us onto this. It is quite simply a sensational album. In fact, it’s so good I think I’ll buy an extra copy and get it cryogenically preserved for a future life.
Biosphere - substrata
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The long drones and beautiful progressions are just wonderful. Every single piece of every track fits together, even the Twin Peaks samples which are throughout the cd. Substrata is not simply ambient, it has all sorts of beats, rhythms and different samples that come in and out all over the place....perfect for a drive home in the dark.
Ambient reduced to its essential parts. This is a 100% must-have.
Overige aanraders:

Carbon based lifeforms - Hydroponic Garden
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Another evidence for the high quality A&R of Ultimae Records. CBL perfectly adds to the portfolio of them. The atmosphere built by the soundscapes within this records are so peacefully relaxed and you feel like the music is surrounding you tightly, yet smoothly with its sonic arms. Great stuff for extended walks through a sunset lit forest. Or maybe just floating away lying on your sofa.
Loess - Loess
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Sparse and desolate. There's a soothing beauty through these tracks, but also there's a feel of despair. Quiet, thoughtful, dry sounding tracks that are full of emotion. There's not enough music out these days that capture the sounds and feelings that Loess does here.
Ulrich Schnauss - Far away trains passing by
quote:
While not exactly breaking new ground, 'Far Away Trains Passing By' takes the familiar, but rarely mastered approach to electronica that has generated much admiration for similar acts such as Herrmann & Kleine and Boards of Canada. I know that's a pretty tall order to fill but if there is any album this year that deserves such comparisons, it is this one. This is one of those rare works that you just want to play for everyone you know.
Voorafgaand deel (1)
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Op dinsdag 5 september 2006 20:41 schreef teknomist het volgende:
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Linkje naar het vorige deel. . .
Was er nog mee bezig
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Ik heb laatst de film Kundun gekeken
En daar zat de (herkenbare) muziek van Philip glass bij.


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  dinsdag 5 september 2006 @ 20:56:20 #4
155342 The_Martian
Katze von der Feldweg
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Ipv een TVP zal ik gelijk een aanradertje spammen.

Pellarin - Athen



1 The Peace of Fishing
2 Preliminary Outline
3 Variation 3.3
4 Intercity
5 Cotton Ball
6 Towards November


Track 2, 5 en 6 is echt heerlijke diepe dub-ambient en track 3 en 4 neigen sterk naar dubtechno waarvan de laatste echt geweldig klinkt.
when the Drone ceases to become a sound and becomes corporeal
when one ventures beyond the physical to metempsychosis
when dream into Drone and Drone into dream
when I am there and nothing else matters, when will I stay forever?
  dinsdag 5 september 2006 @ 21:10:51 #5
52544 RipCore
Sleep is my escape.
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En in mijn TVP een aantal sites die zeer aan te raden zijn:

http://www.ambient-nights.org/

Gratis 30+ mixen te downloaden. Verschillende stijlen en thema's per mix, dus voor ieder wat wils..


http://www.kahvi.org/

Een hele reut aan EPs.


http://www.cardamar.com/

Een negental mixes te downloaden, en wat cd's te koop. Van een Nederlander! Site wordt (gelukkig) binnenkort gerestyled. Vooral de mix Silent Train Of Thoughts bevalt mij zeer.
"Being a procrastinating, instigating, exasperating chameleon is a damn tiring job!"
  dinsdag 5 september 2006 @ 23:44:19 #6
25794 Detroit
Per aspera ad astra
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Zo, dit fijne topic heeft gelukkig een tweede deel. Detroit leest weer mee!
So, if you're frightened of dying and... and you're holding on, you'll see devils tearing your life away. But if you've made your peace, then the devils are really angels...
  woensdag 6 september 2006 @ 01:05:30 #7
23346 Evil_Koekje
Niet altijd evil...
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Koekje ook.
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Ah leuk!

Gelijk maar mijn favoriet dan: Steve Roach - The Magnificent Void

Je moet ervan houden. Heel moeilijk om in te komen, maar langzaam wordt ie steeds en steeds en steeds beter. Dieper gaat ie niet... je verdwijnt totaal van de wereld.

Dit album = space.

Niets komt ook maar in de buurt (ook niet andere muziek van Roach).
  zaterdag 16 september 2006 @ 02:23:32 #9
155342 The_Martian
Katze von der Feldweg
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Wat ik weer helemaal grijs draai de laatste tijd....de abstrace & minimale drone-ambient/techno van Pan(a)sonic... Vooral Vakio is extreem lekker.

Panasonic - Vakio




Pan Sonic - Kulma

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Kulma was the second album from Finnish arch-experimentalists Pan Sonic (previously Panasonic, the ‘a’ dropped for obvious reasons) and showed a marked movement away from the intense barrage of noise of the first album Vaiko.
Instead we are treated to a peerless connection of analogue techno stormers, probably closest to Aphex Twin’s milestone Analogue Bubblebath releases than anything else on the scene. If you haven’t managed to get hold of any Pan Sonic before - this is an ideal place to start as this album has it all; Glitchy restless beats, disturbing drones, sub atomic bass tones and the all-important overdriven distortion.

From beginning to end Kulma showcases Pan Sonic at their absolute best, the album’s opener ‘Teurastamo’ is a barrage of machinegun beats and beautifully grimy sounds (try mixing this with some heavy dubstep… trust me it works!), ‘Murto Neste’ takes a disturbing plucked synth line and syncopates it along with a marching bass roll to wobble the most wisely built of houses and closer ‘Moottori’ has the heaviest drum beat this side of tribal Africa. Electronic at its most intense, Kulma is a classic and hugely influential album – you know what to do!


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when the Drone ceases to become a sound and becomes corporeal
when one ventures beyond the physical to metempsychosis
when dream into Drone and Drone into dream
when I am there and nothing else matters, when will I stay forever?
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Ik sta weleens in een platenwinkel voor een bak met ambient maar ik heb eigenlijk geen idee wat ik moet kiezen. De tijd om uitgebreid in de winkel te luisteren heb ik niet omdat ik de zaak vaak bezoek op weg van school naar m'n werk. Zomaar ff wat meenemen zit er niet in want ik ben bang dat ik dan met een CD vol vogelgeluiden thuiskom.

Ik zoek eigenlijk wat muziek in de stijl van Eno, FSOL, Boards of Canada e.d. Voor welke artiesten en CD's kan ik het beste gaan?
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www.pandora.com , kijk of ze daar een artiest kennen en ga dan eens luisteren naar andere artiesten. De site speelt automatisch songs af die lijken of die van je ingevulde artiest.
En hij zei: "Ik ben de trotse bezitter van een lege ondertitel."
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er is een centraal ambient topic... maar waar!?
  dinsdag 19 september 2006 @ 16:53:48 #13
129574 Kiteless
pornsexgoddess
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Biosphere, FSOL, L.S.G. is ook lekker (maar of het onder ambient valt...), Asura...
-=[ Kiteless ]=-=[ To dream of love ]=-
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Global Communication
  dinsdag 19 september 2006 @ 17:05:36 #15
73742 fripper
"Call It Anything"
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Op dinsdag 19 september 2006 16:50 schreef Yorrit het volgende:
er is een centraal ambient topic... maar waar!?
Hier : Ambient topic - Selected works Deel 2
"We shall now tune our Mellotrons and attack culture once again"
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quote:
From beginning to end Kulma showcases Pan Sonic at their absolute best, the album’s opener ‘Teurastamo’ is a barrage of machinegun beats and beautifully grimy sounds (try mixing this with some heavy dubstep… trust me it works!),
dat klinkt al interessant
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check it
9 november @ Lanteren/Venster Rotterdam: Biosphere, Machinefabriek en Pierre Bastien
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Ik vul dit topic graag aan met Dead Hollywood Stars en Beefcake
Pesez le matin que vous n'irez peut-être pas jusqu'au soir,
Et au soir que vous n'irez peut-être pas jusqu'au matin.
  dinsdag 19 september 2006 @ 17:14:52 #19
69726 timbob
Nu ook als webicon.
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Cymatic Scan - Cymatic Scan

Donkere beatloze Ambient van Bill Laswell & Tetsu Inoue
ik zoek 'm nog steeds op cd...

Bill Laswell heeft trouwens hordes van zulke cd's gemaakt. zit allemaal goed in elkaar.
En dingen van biosphere zijn idd ook erg goed.

Biosphere - Patashnik
jummie.

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Biosphere heb ik wel wat van zien liggen, denk dat ik daar de volgende keer maar eens iets van ga proberen
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Op dinsdag 19 september 2006 16:38 schreef caradoc het volgende:
www.pandora.com , kijk of ze daar een artiest kennen en ga dan eens luisteren naar andere artiesten. De site speelt automatisch songs af die lijken of die van je ingevulde artiest.
handig thx
  dinsdag 19 september 2006 @ 17:28:40 #21
129574 Kiteless
pornsexgoddess
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Op dinsdag 19 september 2006 17:21 schreef Beathoven het volgende:
Biosphere heb ik wel wat van zien liggen, denk dat ik daar de volgende keer maar eens iets van ga proberen
[..]

handig thx
Van Biosphere ben ik persoonlijk voornamelijk gecharmeerd van Microgravity en Patashnik,
de latere cd's werden me persoonlijk iets te vaag
(DeathProd, Man with a movie camera, Shenzhou, Polar Sequences, the Fires of Ork, Cirque, Substrata....)
-=[ Kiteless ]=-=[ To dream of love ]=-
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Bill Laswell inderdaad, Final, Techno Animal (beide Justin Broadrick), en nog wat andere dingen waar ik zo niet op kan komen maarik zal vanavond eens kijken.
Semi0n is dead, long live Stress Techniques. New project: LLB - JG
http://http://llbinc.bandcamp.com/
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Op dinsdag 19 september 2006 17:37 schreef bartrid het volgende:
Techno Animal (beide Justin Broadrick),
en Kevin "the bug" Martin natuurlijk
maar wat ik van techno animal ken zou ik niet snel als ambient bestempelen. ligt dat aan mijn beperkte kennis?
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Op dinsdag 19 september 2006 17:28 schreef Kiteless het volgende:

[..]

Van Biosphere ben ik persoonlijk voornamelijk gecharmeerd van Microgravity en Patashnik,
de latere cd's werden me persoonlijk iets te vaag
(DeathProd, Man with a movie camera, Shenzhou, Polar Sequences, the Fires of Ork, Cirque, Substrata....)
Substrata is juist z'n klassieker (en ook z'n beste werk in mijn ogen) en Bass communion vind ik ook erg mooi.
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deaf center - pale ravine
deaf center - neon city ep

schitterende donkere ambient uit noorwegen..

ook de kompakt pop ambient serie is een enorme aanrader. prachtige verzamelaars.
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