"The Hobbit" - 2011

Ik bedoel er eigenlijk mee dat je er nu niet op moet hopen dat t snel komt. Het zal vast wel verfilmd worden maar t is wel een meerjarenplan.

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Op maandag 16 oktober 2006 09:22 schreef Borizzz het volgende:
Ik bedoel er eigenlijk mee dat je er nu niet op moet hopen dat t snel komt. Het zal vast wel verfilmd worden maar t is wel een meerjarenplan.

Gelukkig wel

Als ze met 'The Hobbit' komen wat in 6 maanden in elkaar is geflanst...hoef ik het niet te zien denk ik...Ik kan wel een tijdje wachten...

MGM chief operating officer Rick Sands talked about "The Hobbit" while at ShowEast this week reports Slashfilm.
Sands confirmed that talks are underway with New Line Cinema to obtain the rights to produce TWO prequel films to "The Lord of the Rings", based on J.R.R. Tolkien's "The Hobbit".

At the European Media Leaders Summit in London, MGM chief Harry Sloan confirmed that the studio plans to focus on its five core franchises - James Bond, "The Pink Panther," "Thomas Crown," "Rocky" and "The Hobbit". The aim is to release two or three tentpoles per year reports Variety.

Sloan confirmed MGM was in talks with Peter Jackson to make two movies based on J.R.R. Tolkein's "The Hobbit" though that is contingent on negotiations with New Line, which owns the right to produce "The Hobbit".

The first "Hobbit" will be a direct adaptation of "The Hobbit," and the second would be drawn from footnotes and source material connecting "The Hobbit" with "The Lord of the Rings".

Dat is mooi, ik had mijn bedenkingen bij 2 films maar dit is top .

Dat is wel heel erg gaaf.
Maar gebeurt er dan precies tussen the hobbit en lord of the rings dat voldoende is voor een intressante film? Ik heb bijvoorbeeld de silmarillion nog niet gelezen, ik gok dat het daar instaat?

Goed dat de the hobbit als 1 film willen houden, het verhaal is best in 2-3uur te vertellen en in 2 delen zou kunnen maar dan wel direct na elkaar, waar zou je anders de film moeten opbreken? Het is gewoon 1 verhaal.

Ik zou van The Hobbit een tv serie maken... elk hoofdstuk is toch meteen een goede aflevering?

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De voorbereidingen voor de verfilming van The Hobbit, J.R.R. Tolkiens voorloper van The Lord of the Rings, heeft een onverwachte wending gekregen. Ondanks eerdere berichten en de verwachtingen van velen zal Peter Jackson niet bij het project betrokken zijn. De Nieuw-Zeelander kreeg te horen dat zijn hulp niet gewenst is bij de twee films die in de planning staan: The Hobbit en een film die The Hobbit en The Lord of the Rings met elkaar moet verbinden.

In een verklaring laten Peter Jackson en zijn vaste schrijfster Fran Walsh weten dat de afwijzing te maken heeft met een financiële kwestie tussen het duo en New Line over The Fellowship Of The Ring. "This outcome is not what we anticipated or wanted, but neither do we see any positive value in bitterness and rancor. We now have no choice but to let the idea of a film of The Hobbit go and move forward with other projects."

Belachelijk

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Op maandag 20 november 2006 14:19 schreef Morpheus2002 het volgende:

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Dat MEEN je niet....

Waarom ingodsnaam !

It doesn't get much more official than this folks. In a lengthy letter to The One Ring.Net, "The Lord of the Rings" trilogy helmer Peter Jackson confirmed will not be involved in the making of the series 'prequel' "The Hobbit".

For sometime a cloud over Jackson's involvement has been swirling due to an unresolved lawsuit between Jackson and New Line over incomes on "The Fellowship of the Ring". Until the issue was settled there wasn't expected to be any involvement on Jackson's part.

Now, producer Mark Ordesky called Jackson's manager and "told him that New Line would no longer be requiring our services on the Hobbit and the LOTR 'prequel'. This was a courtesy call to let us know that the studio was now actively looking to hire another filmmaker for both projects".

The reason for this? According to the letter "Ordesky said that New Line has a limited time option on the film rights they have obtained from Saul Zaentz, and because we won't discuss making the movies until the lawsuit is resolved, the studio is going to have to hire another director".
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Dear One Ringers,

As you know, there's been a lot of speculation about The Hobbit. We are often asked about when or if this film will ever be made. We have always responded that we would be very interested in making the film - if it were offered to us to make.

You may also be aware that Wingnut Films has bought a lawsuit against New Line, which resulted from an audit we undertook on part of the income of The Fellowship of the Ring. Our attitude with the lawsuit has always been that since it's largely based on differences of opinion about certain accounting practices, we would like an independent body - whether it be a judge, a jury, or a mediator, to look at the issues and make an unbiased ruling. We are happy to accept whatever that ruling is. In our minds, it's not much more complex than that and that's exactly why film contracts include right-to-audit clauses.

However, we have always said that we do not want to discuss The Hobbit with New Line until the lawsuit over New Line's accounting practices is resolved. This is simple common sense - you cannot be in a relationship with a film studio, making a complex, expensive movie and dealing with all the pressures and responsibilities that come with the job, while an unresolved lawsuit exists.

We have also said that we do not want to tie settlement of the lawsuit to making a film of The Hobbit. In other words, we would have to agree to make The Hobbit as a condition of New Line settling our lawsuit. In our minds this is not the right reason to make a film and if a film of The Hobbit went ahead on this basis, it would be doomed. Deciding to make a movie should come from the heart - it's not a matter of business convenience. When you agree to make a film, you're taking on a massive commitment and you need to be driven by an absolute passion to want to get the story on screen. It's that passion, and passion alone, that gives the movie its imagination and heart. To us it is not a cold-blooded business decision.

A couple of months ago there was a flurry of Hobbit news in the media. MGM, who own a portion of the film rights in The Hobbit, publicly stated they wanted to make the film with us. It was a little weird at the time because nobody from New Line had ever spoken to us about making a film of The Hobbit and the media had some fun with that. Within a week or two of those stories, our Manager Ken Kamins got a call from the co-president of New Line Cinema, Michael Lynne, who in essence told Ken that the way to settle the lawsuit was to get a commitment from us to make the Hobbit, because "that's how these things are done". Michael Lynne said we would stand to make much more money if we tied the lawsuit and the movie deal together and this may well be true, but it's still the worst reason in the world to agree to make a film.

Several years ago, Mark Ordesky told us that New Line have rights to make not just The Hobbit but a second "LOTR prequel", covering the events leading up to those depicted in LOTR. Since then, we've always assumed that we would be asked to make The Hobbit and possibly this second film, back to back, as we did the original movies. We assumed that our lawsuit with the studio would come to a natural conclusion and we would then be free to discuss our ideas with the studio, get excited and jump on board. We've assumed that we would possibly get started on development and design next year, whilst filming The Lovely Bones. We even had a meeting planned with MGM executives to talk through our schedule.

However last week, Mark Ordesky called Ken and told him that New Line would no longer be requiring our services on the Hobbit and the LOTR 'prequel'. This was a courtesy call to let us know that the studio was now actively looking to hire another filmmaker for both projects.

Ordesky said that New Line has a limited time option on the film rights they have obtained from Saul Zaentz (this has never been conveyed to us before), and because we won't discuss making the movies until the lawsuit is resolved, the studio is going to have to hire another director.

Given that New Line are committed to this course of action, we felt at the very least, we owed you, the fans, a straightforward account of events as they have unfolded for us.

We have always had the greatest support from The Ringers and we are very sorry our involvement with The Hobbit has been ended in this way. Our journey into Tolkien's world started with a phone call from Ken Kamins to Harvey Weinstein in Nov 1995 and ended with a phone call from Mark Ordesky to Ken in Nov 2006. It has been a great 11 years.

This outcome is not what we anticipated or wanted, but neither do we see any positive value in bitterness and rancor. We now have no choice but to let the idea of a film of The Hobbit go and move forward with other projects.

We send our very best wishes to whomever has the privilege of making The Hobbit and look forward to seeing the film on the big screen.

Warmest regards to you all, and thanks for your incredible support over the years.

We got to go there - but not back again ...

Peter Jackson and Fran Walsh

Echt te KLOTE voor woorden

Als Jackson niet meewerkt kunnen ze de films net zo goed niet maken.

Ja idd, dan hoef ik dus echt niet 'The Hobbit' te zien, als het niet uit de handen van PJ komt wat een kutzooi zeg

Krijg je een regisseur die de stijl van PJ moet proberen te kopieren omdat het anders niet lekker aansluit op LOTR, geweldig .

George Lucas

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Op maandag 20 november 2006 16:19 schreef Patch het volgende:
George Lucas

Die is goed met kinderverhaaltjes maken van prequels van epische films, heb ik me laten vertellen .

Ik denk niet dat iemand in de buurt komt van Jackson op LotR gebied. Jackson heeft het onmogelijk mogelijk gemaakt...

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Op maandag 20 november 2006 16:19 schreef Patch het volgende:
George Lucas

Oh hell no!

Damn-it!! Wat is dat voor een gedoe!? Willen ze soms floppen ofzo? Dit is by far de slechtste keuze ooit gemaakt door een filmstudio!!

Hebben de fans geen recht op een perfect aansluitende prequel gemaakt door PJ:(

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Op donderdag 16 november 2006 11:55 schreef splendor het volgende:
Dat is wel heel erg gaaf.
Maar gebeurt er dan precies tussen the hobbit en lord of the rings dat voldoende is voor een intressante film? Ik heb bijvoorbeeld de silmarillion nog niet gelezen, ik gok dat het daar instaat?

Nope. Niet dat ik me kan herinneren en iig niet voldoende voor een film.
Gandalf en de rest van de tovenaars smijten Sauron uit het demsterwold, maar da's zo ongeveer alles. Je zou misschien de val van Saruman kunnen laten zien en de wederopbouw van Sauron in Mordor maar iets nuttigs? Neah.

Één voordeel, zonder PJ worden het in ieder geval films van een normale lengte. Die gast moet echt leren wat editten inhoudt. Bij LOTR ging het nog wel omdat het verhaal sowieso traag gaat maar bij King Kong zag je al dat hij gewoon niets durft weg te gooien.

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Op dinsdag 21 november 2006 15:57 schreef Dagonet het volgende:

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Nope. Niet dat ik me kan herinneren en iig niet voldoende voor een film.
Gandalf en de rest van de tovenaars smijten Sauron uit het demsterwold, maar da's zo ongeveer alles. Je zou misschien de val van Saruman kunnen laten zien en de wederopbouw van Sauron in Mordor maar iets nuttigs? Neah.

In de Unfinished tales staat ook nog wel het een en ander, maar de periode tussen de Hobbit en LotR is meer de stilte voor de storm. Lastig om daar een boeiende, enigszins op zichzelf staande film van te maken . Dan geef ik je (maar dat zal wel onder de Silmarillionrechten vallen) meer kans met het verfilmen van de val van Numénor en de Laatste Alliantie.

Dit is wat er gebeurde volgens de boeken sinds de geboorte van Bilbo. In de films is de 17 jaar tussen Bilbo's feest en Frodo's vertrek teruggebracht naar een dag of twee.

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September 22, 2890

The Shire
Bilbo Baggins is born.


March 1, 2931

Arnor
Aragorn II, descendant of Aranarth first Chieftain of the Dúnedains, is born. His mother calls him Estel ("hope") and sends him to live with Elrond.


2941

The Shire / Erebor
Thorin Oakenshield and Gandalf visit Bilbo in the Shire. Bilbo joins the Dwarves' quest to retake the treasures of Erebor. Among his many adventures, Bilbo meets Gollum and finds the One Ring.

Bard of Esgaroth slays Smaug the dragon with the aid of Bilbo. The Battle of the Five Armies—Men, Elves, Dwarves, Goblins, and Eagles— is fought over Smaug's treasure. Thorin Oakenshield dies in battle, and Dain of the Iron Hills becomes King under the mountain. .


2941

Middle-earth
The White Council meets again and Saruman, hoping to keep Sauron from finding the One Ring, agrees to attack Dol Guldur. Sauron abandons Dol Guldur. .


2942


Bilbo returns to the Shire and begins to write his memoirs, the first volume of the Red Book.

Sauron returns to Mordor.


2944


Bard rebuilds Dale and becomes King. Gollum leaves the Mountains and begins his search for his "precious".


2951

Mordor
Sauron openly declares his presence and gathers his forces and sends three Nazgűl to hold Dol Guldur. Gollum heads toward Mordor in his search.


2951-3019

Middle-earth
The War of the Ring


2951

Rivendell
Elrond reveals to his ward "Estel" his true name and heritage and presents him with the greatest heirloom of Arnor, the shards of the ancient sword Narsil. Arwen, returning from Lorien, meets Aragorn in the woods. They fall in love, but Aragorn leaves to prove his worthiness as a suitor to Elrond.


2953

Middle-earth
Last meeting of the White Council. Saruman fortifies Isengard and sets spies on Gandalf.


2953


Gandalf and Aragorn meet and become friends.


2957-80


Aragorn undertakes many journeys and adventures. He serves both the king of Rohan and the Steward of Gondor, and protects the land of Eriador from the minions of Sauron.


September 22, 2968

The Shire
Frodo Baggins is born.


2978

Gondor
Birth of Boromir son of Denethor II, steward of Gondor.


2980

Middle-earth
Aragorn enters Lorien and meets Arwen again. He gives her the ring of Barahir, and they promise to marry.

Gollum reaches the confines Mordor. He is tortured, interrogated, and eventually "escapes." He then becomes acquainted with the great spider Shelob.

Theoden becomes King of Rohan.


3000

The Shire
Saruman risks using one of the seeing stones and is unknowingly enslaved to the will of Sauron.


September 22, 3001

The Shire
Bilbo hosts his farewell feast on his 111th birthday, and gives Frodo the Ring.


3001-17

Middle-earth
Gandalf and Aragorn sporadically hunt for Gollum. Aragorn finally captures him in the Dead Marshes northwest of Mordor.


3002

Rivendell
Bilbo becomes a guest of Elrond and settles in Rivendell.


3018

Middle-earth
After many years of absence, Gandalf comes to the Shire to warn Frodo about the One Ring. Meanwhile Sauron sends the Nazgűl forth in search of it. Frodo and his companions flee the Shire and meet up with Aragorn. They take the Ring to Rivendell where it is decided that the Ring must be destroyed in the fires of Mount Doom. Nine are chosen to undertake this quest, they comprise the Fellowship of the Ring.


3018-19


The War of the Ring ends in March, 3019. The deeds of the Fellowship and the history of the War of the Ring, as told in the Lord of the Rings, are too great and numerous to be recounted here.


September 29, 3021

The Grey Havens, Middle-earth
Bilbo and Frodo depart over the Sea, into the west with the Keepers of the Three Rings (Gandalf, Galadriel, Elrond).

Geen idee hoe ze dáár een film van willen maken eigenlijk. Vooral omdat Saruman in de film meer een slaaf van Sauron was en in het boek een tegenstander.

The Hobbit Peter Jackson is geen goed nieuws. Ik vraag me af of belangrijke karakters dan ook opnieuw gecast moeten worden, gezien de hechte band tussen cast en Jackson tijdens het filmen van LOTR.