Pyramide in Bosnie?? Weet iemand hier iets van........

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Op maandag 5 juni 2006 15:54 schreef merlin693 het volgende:

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dus eigenlijk beweren ze nog steeds dat Griekenland en Italie geen deel uitmaken van Europa !

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Op dinsdag 6 juni 2006 16:26 schreef Marietje_34 het volgende:

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nouja, het is natuurlijk toch een omstreden iets...als dit idd een piramide blijkt te zijn, moeten we ws de geschiedschrijving herzien.

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Op dinsdag 6 juni 2006 20:16 schreef The_stranger het volgende:

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Hoezo?

Er is dat een gebouw van een bekende beschaving on opgemerkt gebleven, nauwelijks iets waar de persen voor stil zullen staan, om het zo maar even te zeggen..

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Op maandag 5 juni 2006 15:01 schreef Marietje_34 het volgende:
vr 2 jun 2006, 16:07

Onderzoek naar piramides in Bosnië

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UNESCO team to probe Bosnia's "ancient pyramid"

SARAJEVO (Reuters) - Bosnia's mystery pyramid will now be probed and inspected by a team of experts from the U.N. Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization.

"We shall send a UNESCO expert team to Visoko to determine exactly what it is all about," UNESCO Secretary General Koichiro Matsuura said in an interview published on Monday in Dnevni Avaz newspaper.

verder: Yahoo
 

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Op dinsdag 6 juni 2006 22:00 schreef NorthernStar het volgende:

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Ik zou net hetzelfde soort bericht posten
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Dat is wel goed nieuws.

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Op dinsdag 6 juni 2006 22:10 schreef NorthernStar het volgende:
Die van Italië lijken erg op die in Bosnië (even aannemen dat het idd mensgemaakte structuren zijn)

Le tre piramidi di Montevecchia

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Op dinsdag 6 juni 2006 22:06 schreef De_Hertog het volgende:

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Ach. Als ze de pyramide nep vinden zal de archeoloog in kwestie zich distantiëren van het onderzoek en stug verder graven omdat hij wéét dat hij gelijk heeft, als ze een pyramide vinden zal de 'gevestigde orde' het team beschuldigen van vervalsingen en dergelijke omdat zij wéten dat ze gelijk hebben. Zo gaat het altijd, nietwaar?

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Op dinsdag 6 juni 2006 22:14 schreef De_Hertog het volgende:

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Mij Italiaans is niet meer wat het geweest is. Zijn dit 'bewezen' pyramides, nog te onderzoeken structuren, of hoopvolle gedachtes van een lokale archeoloog? Ook hier zou ik namelijk niet direct 'Ja, DAT is een pyramide' roepen. Die op de canarische eilanden is overigens wel door mensen gemaakt, vermoed ik zo

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British archaeologist: no pyramid in Bosnia

British archaeologist proved that a hill in central Bosnia is [NOT?] a man-made structure, having no attitude to pyramid. Professor Anthony Harding, who is president of the European Association of Archaeologists, visited Visocica hill and said the formation was natural.

No pyramids are known in Europe, and there are no records of any ancient civilization on the continent ever attempting to build one.

The pyramid theory was launched by an amateur researcher last year but it has been disputed by a number of local and international experts, who claim that at no time in Bosnia's history did the region have a civilization able to build monumental structures. They say the hill is simply a strange natural formation.

Nevertheless, Semir Osmanagic, the amateur Bosnian archaeologist who has been investigating Latin American pyramids for 15 years, organized excavations to Visocica, about 20 miles (30 kilometers) northwest of Sarajevo, in April.

His team made up mostly of volunteers, found that the 2,120-foot (650-meter) hill has 45-degree slopes pointing toward the cardinal points and a flat top. Under layers of dirt, workers discovered a paved entrance plateau, entrances to tunnels and large stone blocks, reports the AP.

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Op zaterdag 17 juni 2006 18:00 schreef 6833-228 het volgende:

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Op zaterdag 17 juni 2006 18:00 schreef 6833-228 het volgende:

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Op zaterdag 17 juni 2006 18:23 schreef Elegy het volgende:

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Dus als ik het goed begrijp ziet men het als een door mensenhanden gemaakt "iets". Maar die professor beweert weer dat het natuurlijk is

Euh...

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They say the hill is simply a strange natural formation.

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Op zaterdag 17 juni 2006 18:23 schreef Elegy het volgende:

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Dus als ik het goed begrijp ziet men het als een door mensenhanden gemaakt "iets". Maar die professor beweert weer dat het natuurlijk is

Euh...

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By AIDA CERKEZ-ROBINSON, Associated Press Writer
Fri Jun 9, 6:54 PM ET


SARAJEVO, Bosnia-Herzegovina - A British archaeologist on Friday rejected claims that a hill in central Bosnia is a man-made structure that many local residents insist is a pyramid.

Professor Anthony Harding, who is president of the European Association of Archaeologists, visited Visocica hill and said the formation was natural.

"Not any evidence at all has been found" to support the claim the site would be an archaeological site, he said.

No pyramids are known in Europe, and there are no records of any ancient civilization on the continent ever attempting to build one.

The pyramid theory was launched by an amateur researcher last year but it has been disputed by a number of local and international experts, who claim that at no time in Bosnia's history did the region have a civilization able to build monumental structures. They say the hill is simply a strange natural formation.

Nevertheless, Semir Osmanagic, the amateur Bosnian archaeologist who has been investigating Latin American pyramids for 15 years, organized excavations to Visocica, about 20 miles northwest of Sarajevo, in April.

His team — made up mostly of volunteers, found that the 2,120-foot hill has 45-degree slopes pointing toward the cardinal points and a flat top. Under layers of dirt, workers discovered a paved entrance plateau, entrances to tunnels and large stone blocks.

Egyptian geologist Aly Abd Alla Barakat, who arrived in May to check on Osmanagic's claims said the structure is "man made" and worth investigating.

"My opinion is that this is a type of pyramid, probably a primitive pyramid," said Barakat, a geologist from the Egyptian Mineral Resource Authority.

However, Harding, who said he visited the site briefly on Thursday and looked at the same stone blocks Barakat said were man made, said on Friday they were a natural formation.

"I've seen the site, in my opinion it is entirely natural," he told reporters in Sarajevo. Harding did not visit other sites in the area which Osmanagic and Barakat say are further evidence of the existence of pyramids in Bosnia, such as a tunnel leading to the top of Visocica or a stone pavement made of geometrically regular shaped pieces.

Harding said that although he had not seen the stone pavement, by looking at photographs, "I would not believe it to be archaeological. It looks to me as a natural stone pavement." He did not visit the tunnel either.

But Barakat, an expert in the stone blocks used to build ancient pyramids in Egypt, has recommended more experts visit the site. An archaeologist from Egypt is scheduled to visit the site this month.

The theory of a pyramid has sparked intense interest in Bosnia, with local residents seeking to cash in on the craze; restaurants serve meals in triangle-shaped plates, artisans make pyramid-shaped wooden key-chains, shopkeepers sell T-shirts saying "I have a pyramid in my backyard."

When asked to comment on Harding's statement, Mario Gerussi, the director of Osmanagic's team leading the excavations, said the team had not been informed of the timing of Harding's visit and that none of the staff at the site had seen him there.

Harding specializes in the European Bronze Age, and has led excavations in Poland and the Czech Republic as well as in Britain.

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Harding said that although he had not seen the stone pavement, by looking at photographs, "I would not believe it to be archaeological. It looks to me as a natural stone pavement."

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Op zaterdag 17 juni 2006 18:55 schreef BeejEm het volgende:

Geen pyramide... ok ! Maar als dit niet door mensenhanden is aangelegd ....
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Op zaterdag 17 juni 2006 19:30 schreef Elegy het volgende:
Aha, kijk, nu snap ik het weer

Toch frappant, een professor komt even langs, ziet wat delen, kijkt wat foto's en op basis daarvan kan hij verklaren dat het niet door mensenhandenis gemaakt. Die man zal heus wel expertise hebben op dit gebied, maar het wordt wel heel snel afgedaan als "gewoon wat natuurlijks, niets bijzonders".

Ik ben reuze benieuwd wat het gaat worden en wat ze gaan ontdekken

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Op zaterdag 17 juni 2006 19:43 schreef 6833-228 het volgende:

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Zou het niet zo kunnen zijn, dat wat op die foto's te zien is, gewoon tegen die (natuurlijke) berg aangebouwd is en bedolven is geraakt in de loop van de tijd. Door aardberschuivingen bijvoorbeeld.
Het ljkt me dat een geoloog toch wel in staat moet zijn om te onderzoeken of dat ding natuurlijk is of niet. Stuur een geoloog ipv een archeoloog!

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Egyptian geologist Aly Abd Alla Barakat, who arrived in May to check on Osmanagic's claims said the structure is "man made" and worth investigating.

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Op zaterdag 17 juni 2006 19:54 schreef BeejEm het volgende:

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According to one source, on May 8, 2006, members of the Geological team investigating Visočica on behalf of the Archaeological Park: Bosnian Pyramid of the Sun Foundation held a press conference in Tuzla to present the results of their research. The academics, from the Faculty of Mining and Geology at the University of Tuzla and led by Professor Dr. Sejfudin Vrabac, concluded that the hill is a natural geological formation, made of classic sediments of layered composition and varying thickness, and that its shape is a consequence of endodynamical and egsodynamical processes in post-Miocene era.

According to Professor Vrabac, who specializes in paleogeology, there are dozens of like morphological formations in the Sarajevo-Zenica mining basin alone. The Geological team report on Visocica, based on the data collected in six drill holes at 3 to 17 metre depths, is supported by the Research and Teaching Council of the Faculty of Mining and Geology, as well as the Association of Geologists of Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina.[8]

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Boston University's Curtis Runnels, an expert in prehistoric Greece and the Balkans states that, "Between 27,000 and 12,000 years ago, the Balkans were locked in the last Glacial maximum, a period of very cold and dry climate with glaciers in some of the mountain ranges. The only occupants were Upper Paleolithic hunters and gatherers who left behind open-air camp sites and traces of occupation in caves. These remains consist of simple stone tools, hearths, and remains of animals and plants that were consumed for food. These people did not have the tools or skills to engage in the construction of monumental architecture." [12] wikipedia

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Op zaterdag 17 juni 2006 19:51 schreef BeejEm het volgende:

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Héél benieuwd, ja

En als je dan zo'n foto ziet, met die strakke lijnen van die "berg":

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Dan denk je toch: dat niemand eerder op het idee is gekomen, die "berg" eens grondig te onderzoeken ....

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Op vrijdag 21 april 2006 16:37 schreef totsy het volgende:
De piramides waren eens krachtcentrales , waarlangs de buitenaardse culturen kommuniceerden met de Ouden , de Atlantiers.
De kampen , die gevonden zijn rond de piramiden zijn niet van de Egyptenaren bouwers, dat waren zij niet.
Zij braken de deklaag ervan af om hun tempels mee te bouwen van hun afgoden der zwarte magie, en voor de fundamenten te leggen voor paleizen .Dus sloopten ze eerder dan te bouwen .
De piramides , gepolijst als ze waren waren te zien wanuit de kosmos door het icht dat zij weerkaatsten.

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Op zaterdag 29 april 2006 22:38 schreef Rietvaerder het volgende:
Waar is die foto van Google Earth gebleven waarop je kon zien dat de 3 piramides een driehoek vormen?

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24 June 2006

Barakat: ‘This is man-made pyramid’

The two Egyptian scientists working at the Bosnian pyramids - geologist Barakat and archeologist Lamia El Hadidi – have made some of their findings public prior to completing their work at the site. They conclude that there are ancient man-made structures in the Visocica Hill region.

When he first arrived in Bosnia, geologist Barakat said that Visocica Hill was probably ‘some kind of primitive pyramid’. After more than a month working at the site, his opinion remains unchanged.

Barakat said, “For me, as a scientist and geologist, there’s still no doubt that this is man-made. I think that humans cut, polished, reshaped and formed stone blocks {that form the pyramid), bringing them here and adding them to the existing hill in order to give the shape of a pyramid to the hill.”

Archaeologist El Hadidi added that a large archaeological site has been found on the so-called Pyramid of the Moon, near to the Bosnian Pyramid of the Sun. She said they were unable, at this stage, to date the site, saying that further research is needed. However, she confirmed earlier conclusions that this site also represents a pyramid. “It is really impossible that nature creates shapes like this. Maybe one, but not three or four sides of the hill as we have here. There is still a lot of work to be done here, if we want to unveil all the secrets of this valley.”

Scepticism about the existence of the pyramids remains within parts of the scientific community. This may be partly because the site in Bosnia does not represent our traditional image of pyramids - as in Egypt - but a different kind of structure where stones have been placed around an existing hill to form the shape of a pyramid.

A complex of manmade tunnels has also been found at the site. It has been suggested that the tunnels may connect the three pyramids. In one of the tunnels, a large polished monolith has been found with unknown carved inscriptions including arrows and a shape similar to our letter ‘E’.