Meisje vermist op Aruba #7 - Stilte voor de storm?

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Op vrijdag 30 september 2005 11:43 schreef Jerruh het volgende:
ik word zon beetje kotsmisselijk van dat mens...
ik zou bijna willen dat wij van FOK! met haar een debat regelen en haar eens een lesje leren, dat ze eens weet waarmee ze bezig is...

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Op vrijdag 30 september 2005 02:35 schreef BwennieBren het volgende:
Dat is waar wat die 10 dagen betreft maar toen ze toch logen over die 2 bewakers en die leugen eruit was, toen hadden ze toch kunnen denken: he daar is iets niet in orde, laten we ze in hechtenis nemen. Een leugen is danwel niet strafbaar maar het gaat je toch aan het denken zetten. In dat statium dan he? Ik kan nu best begrijpen waarom hij heeft gelogen na zijn interview gezien te hebben.

Ik ben het verder helemaal met je eens. Ik vrees dat Beth de jacht op de verkeerde jongens maakt want misschien zit het wel dichter bij huis.

Hierbij nog een video van Beth en CNN: http://thepoliticalteen.net/2005/09/28/graceinterview/

Hoor en zie op de video trouwens hoe die Rita die vent afbreekt die zegt dat het interview van Current Affair geen reden is om een veroordeling te krijgen (Amerikanen dus die er niet mee eens zijn!) en meteen het commentaar van een ander vraagt. Je hoort hem nog even lachen daarna. Die eenzijdige wijze van nieuwsgeven van de Amerikaanse nieuwszenders. HILARISCH!

Ik weet niet hoe de Nederlandse lezers die van deze zaak op de hoogte zijn erover denken maar mij gaat dat mens danig de keel uithangen met haar loze uitspraken en beschuldigingen. Ik hoop dat ook dat de Nederlandse politie in Den Haag Arnhem ervan op de hoogte is dat madam deze kant op komt en haar in het gevang zet wanneer zij en die Joe heisa komt maken bij de Haagse Arnhemse school van Joran. Ik vrees dat de hele zaak uit de hand KAN lopen voor haar wanneer andere mensen lucht van deze zaak krijgen. Hoe erg ik het ook vind dat dat meisje wordt vermist, ik keur de acties in de zoektocht van haar moeder af.

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Op vrijdag 30 september 2005 12:53 schreef SocialDisorder het volgende:
het plannetje van verdonk komt hier wel van pas denk ik

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Op vrijdag 30 september 2005 12:53 schreef SocialDisorder het volgende:
het plannetje van verdonk komt hier wel van pas denk ik

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JORAN: TARGETED FOR DEATH
Friday September 23, 2005


By DAVID WRIGHT

Police on two continents have been alerted to a plot to kill Joran van der Sloot and two other prime suspects in the case of missing Alabama teen Natalee Holloway.

Authorities in Aruba, where Natalee vanished nearly four months ago, have warned cops in Holland that there's a price on Joran's head.

Dutch-born Joran, 18, flew there after being released from prison to attend Arnhem Business School.

"There are angry people both in the U.S. and in Aruba who want him and his friends Deepak and Satish Kalpoe dead," a source told The National Enquirer.

"Many in America believe the trio have escaped justice in Natalee's murder. Some Arubans are angry that Joran and the Kalpoes have brought so much negative attention to their island.

Officials have been told bluntly: 'They were better off in jail.' "

The threat was already obvious an hour before Joran and the Kalpoes were released from prison. A National Enquirer reporter on the scene watched a worried security detail sweep a house overlooking the prison for weapons.

"There have been warnings about mercenaries who are prepared to kill them, and violent people just waiting for the right moment," said the source. "I wouldn't even be surprised if Joran's mother or brother were kidnapped — his enemies might figure it's the only way to get Joran to talk."

Arnhem police spokesman Gohan Rongen acknowledged that they were aware of Joran's presence there. Asked about death threats, he said: "I can't give you any information."

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Anti-crime crusader's past includes troubles with the law

The Associated Press

PHILADELPHIA - A man who has contributed thousands of dollars in rewards to the Citizens Crime Commission of Delaware Valley for catching killers and kidnappers has a lengthy criminal background, according to a published report.

Joseph Mammana, 44, has spent time behind bars for charges including aggravated assault, drug possession, fraud, car theft and identity theft, The Philadelphia Inquirer reported in Saturday editions.

"Any of my criminal past and things like that are irrelevant," Mammana said. "Everybody makes mistakes when they're kids."

He served eight months in Montgomery County prison for striking his wife with a countertop in 1991, when he was 32. Mammana also was jailed in Florida and New Jersey on drug and fraud charges, as well as for the theft of cars, coats, and the identities of two people in the 1980s and 1990s.

Mammana has made more than $130,000 in public pledges to the crime commission over the past decade, including $5,000 to find the driver who ran over two Bucks County teens on a Florida beach; $5,000 to catch the kidnappers of 7-year-old Erica Pratt; and $10,000 to find the killer of 10-year-old Faheem Thomas-Childs. Mammana said most of what he has given to the crime commission has not been publicized.

At the time of his contributions, he was wanted on warrants in Bucks County and Florida, the paper reported.

Mammana, manager of a North Philadelphia egg-processing plant, would not say where he lives or discuss his business ventures. His attorney, Donald Williford, also declined to comment.

Last month, Charlotte County, Florida, recalled its 1992 warrant for a probation violation. On Tuesday, the Bucks County 1988 warrant was recalled after Mammana surrendered to sheriff's deputies. An April 19 trial date was set.

That warrant was issued after Mammana, a competitive bodybuilder, allegedly failed to pay $550 for a weightlifter's belt from Prestige Saddle & Harness of Quakertown.

"If he truly wants to be a good guy, he can start with me," Prestige owner Karen Porter said after being told of Mammana's philanthropy.

Citizens Crime Commission president John C. Apeldorn said Mammana always came through on pledges.


"I don't know if he had a shaky past or what, but he's been good to us," said Apeldorn, who declined to say how much Mammana has donated.


Mammana's first public pledge was in 2000 but the source of his funds is hard to track, the newspaper found.

He holds a mortgage to a house in Lower Makefield, Bucks County, but his name isn't on the deed. He owns three businesses in Pennsylvania and one in New Jersey, but they do not apparently exist at their registered addresses.

One company, Paris Cosmetics, is registered at the home address of Mammana's mother, who said her son does not sell cosmetics from her home. Hope Mammana said her son turned his life around but she would not comment further.

In 1988, Mammana was charged in Montgomery County with raping a girlfriend, but the charge was dropped when he pleaded guilty to harassment. He received a suspended sentence.

In 1989 in Sarasota County, Florida, Mammana and another man tried to buy a Corvette using someone else's identity, according to the Sarasota Herald-Tribune. He spent three months in prison.

In 1990, he returned to the Philadelphia area and married his second wife, stating his job on his marriage application as steelworker. He then was ordered to pay restitution and serve three years' probation for bouncing a check at Zinman Furs in New Jersey two years earlier.

In 1991, he was charged in Montgomery County with opening a checking account in another man's name, and in Burlington County, N.J., with stealing three cars from a Nissan dealership.

That October, he pleaded guilty and served eight months for aggravated assault of his then-wife, Lisa, and for possession with intent to deliver steroids.

"He threatened to kill me, and he threatened to scar my face," she testified. "He threatened to have my father's house burnt down. He threatened to have my daughter raped and blinded."

When she said she wanted a divorce, Mammana tore a countertop from its hinges, struck her over the head with it and put a knife to her throat, she testified.

He later served one year for the car thefts in Burlington County.

Lisa Mammana, now Lisa Pazdan, did not return calls seeking comment.


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Op vrijdag 30 september 2005 13:25 schreef JohnDope het volgende:

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JORAN NAILED!

The prime suspect in the disappearance of Alabama teen Natalee Holloway has dramatically broken a four-month silence to talk about her final hours.

Speaking about his involvement in the case that has gripped America, Joran van der Sloot, 18, laughed as he swigged beer, smoked menthol cigarettes, and confessed: "I'm guilty — but only of leaving her on the beach." In a series of shocking disclosures, van der Sloot:


RAGED viciously at Natalee's heartbroken mother, Beth Holloway Twitty
INSULTED Natalee by claiming she was "twisted" and cruelly blamed her for his arrest.
BOASTED about having sex on the beach with Natalee
TALKED of his hatred for Americans and called them "bitches"
CONFESSED he lied to police
BRAGGED about how to dispose of a body in Aruba

Joran, still officially under suspicion of rape and murder, went to Holland after he was freed from prison in Aruba on September 2.

The 6ft 5ins honor student quickly enrolled in a business course at a 5,000-student college in Arnhem and, together with his father, Paulus, who was also briefly jailed in the case, moved into a family friend's home in the nearby town of Duiven.

His account of his involvement with Natalee was given to attractive 28-year-old Kristina Pedersen, who got to know him on the Arnhem Business School campus. Over several days, he drank heavily, encouraged Kristina to watch hard core porn and tried to force himself on her. And it quickly became apparent that even now Joran cannot keep his story straight — his account was peppered with the lies that have marked his From Page 34 part in the investigation since Natalee disappeared on May 30.

Kristina said: "One day we shared a jug of beer. Joran looked me in the eye and said, 'Here's to finding Natalee'. "Half an hour later he was trying to kiss me and lure me to a deserted area of a park. Then he suddenly asked me, 'Do you want me to bite you?'"

When asked why he left Aruba, Joran laughed and said: "I was in jail for three months... for a missing girl." He insisted on taking Kristina to the college internet station, where he showed her accounts of the case. "There were pictures of him in handcuffs — and he was obviously enjoying showing them to me. He seemed to think that was pretty cool. It made me nervous." Then, as they drank beer in a pub called De Hangar on September 23, Joran began to give Kristina his version of what happened to Natalee.

"He said that she approached him in Carlos 'N' Charlie's bar and bought a couple of rounds', " Kristina said.

Joran revealed that Natalee lay on the bar and invited him to lick a "jelly shot" — vodka frozen in jelly — from her navel.

"He said Natalee then asked him, 'Do you want to go home with me? and Joran said okay'," Kristina added.

In a dramatic new twist, Joran then claimed that after leaving the bar, Deepak and Satish Kalpoe drove him and Natalee to his home — not to the beach. Kristina said: "They went to his home for a while and then to the Holiday Inn, where she was staying.

"They decided to go for a walk on the beach, and the Kalpoes left. He told me, 'Natalee was totally wasted, and I was drunk. We had sex on the beach'."

Yet in a TV interview recorded just a day later, Joran denied having sex with Natalee and claimed they just "cuddled."

Said Kristina: "He went on, 'Afterwards I asked her if she wanted to go home with me because I had to get up early for school. She said she didn't want to go back there. I told her I had to go, and asked if I could walk her home. She said, 'No — I want to be on my own. I'm staying here.' I left her and went home."

Kristina added: "Joran continued, 'I felt guilty leaving her on the beach. I probably shouldn't have done that, but she wouldn't walk back with me. I had to lie about what happened to the girl because I was the last person to see her. If the lie had been kept up, none of this would have happened'."

To read the rest of this article, pick up this week's issue of The national Enquirer.

Published on: 09/30/2005

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Op vrijdag 30 september 2005 13:47 schreef BwennieBren het volgende:

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Nog zo'n verhaal van sensatieblad The National Enquirer:
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Op vrijdag 30 september 2005 14:26 schreef spookvrouw het volgende:
Wat een ontzettend kulverhaal, wat denkt die Kristina nu te bereiken? Fame and eternal glory in de USA? Pffffff.
Of vindt ze het wel spannend om met een bijna veroordeeld uit te gaan?

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Op vrijdag 30 september 2005 14:27 schreef JohnDope het volgende:

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Het zal allemaal best, maar neem maar van mij aan dat het leven van Joran op dit moment een hel is

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Op vrijdag 30 september 2005 14:57 schreef BwennieBren het volgende:

Oh, dat geloof ik best hoor! En dan zal erger worden als Ms. Hell-away hem komt bezoeken op de schoolcampus.

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Op vrijdag 30 september 2005 15:04 schreef JohnDope het volgende:

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Mij lijkt het wel geinig.... het loopt in ieder geval zoals ik het voorspeld had....

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Hey Joran....remember Thomas Twitty who was playing poker with you at the casino? Yeah him and Hunter.....the step cousins of Natalee. Beth tried to keep a secret they were with Natalee in ARuba. Dave found out only now and is shocked to find that out. Thomas & Hunter fucked off from ARuba as fast as they could as soon as Uncle Jug's private plane got there when "something bad happened". Yeah tell the cops all you know about Thomas & Hunter b/c the FBI is investigating them.....word has it they were hiding in the fishermans's hut after you left and gang raped Natalee. That's why she wanted you to stay with her....she knew they were there and didnt' want them raping her AGAIN. That's why she kept changing hotel rooms in the holiday inn...to run from them but they kept finding her and having more brutal sex with her.

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12:14 am = Beth

BETH GET OFF THE DAMN COMPUTER AND GO LOOK FOR NATALEE.

The FBI has confirmed that Beth has been telling untruths and is not a credible person. THE AMERICAN FBI has validated that Joran, Deepak & Satish never made any confessions or statements about sex of any sorts or in and out of consciousness. It is all an 100% fabrication by Beth the bitch. If you refuse to believe this then GO TO THE SOURCE ..contact the FBI for validation. YOU CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH.

Beth would like to BELIEVE that bad things are happening in Aruba but guess what Bitch....tourism there is the highest in history, especially since YOU left the island and there are no yanks there. So Beth's plan to hurt Aruba has failed. SUCKER!!!!!

The only people in Aruba who knew the truth were THOMAS & HUNTER TWITTY - Natalee's step cousins who were with her in Aruba and never returned to their hotel room til the wee hours of the am. The security cameras confirmed this. Where were they and what did they do with Natalee? They called Uncle Jug who got them off the island as soon as possible, and they fled and never returned.

THEY KNOW SOMETHING. Why is it that even when Natalee was realized missing, that noone even notified the police because first reaction is she slept in, etc. MEANWHILE IN ALABAMA ....Marcia Twitty...Hunter & Thomas's mommy were securing them lawyers and met the Mountain Brook students at the airport to confiscate all their cameras and cell phones to dispose of any evidence. And lawyered up the students and told them NOT TO TALK.

THIS HAPPENED BEFORE NATALEE WAS ANNOUNCED MISSING ....at this point she was only 1-2 hours late for her flight. THE TWIT TWINS KNOW SOMETHING AND THE FBI IS ON THEIR TRAIL BE_YOTCH BETH!!!!!

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re: 1:40 am BETH IS THAT YOU AGAIN? GET OFF THE COMPUTER AND GO LOOK FOR NATALEE.

ACCORDING TO TWITTY ...ARE ALOT OF UNTRUE THING FOOL. SHE HAS BEEN LABELLED NOT CREDIBLE BY THE FBI AND THAT SHE IS SPREADING UNTRUTHS AND COMPLETE FABRICATIONS WITH THE INTENT TO DECEIVE THE MASSES AND HAVE THE PUBLIC BELIEVE SOMETHING THAT IS 100% FALSE.

NO BETH ..THOMAS AND HUNTER TWITTY WERE THE ONLY MEMBERS OF THE TWITTY FAMILY WHO DID NOT HELP LOOK FOR NATALEE. AS SOON AS NATALEE DIDN'T SHOW UP IN THE LOBBY FOR HER FLIGHT.....THE TWINS FUCKED OFF AS FAST AS THEY COULD OUT OF ARUBA TO NEVER SET FOOT THERE AGAIN. TSK TSK TSK BETH....YOU KNOW THE PROSECUTION AND FBI HAVE EVIDENCE AND YOU BETH HAS NO EVIDENCE TO BACK UP ANYTHING YOU SAY!!!!!

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Op woensdag 28 september 2005 08:20 schreef BwennieBren het volgende:
Inmiddels is er een reactie van de moeder van Natalee, Beth Holloway op het interview van Joran met "A Current Affair".

http://thepoliticalteen.net/2005/09/27/bethaca/

Oh ja, en Beth komt zelfs helemaal naar Nederland toe om posters van Natalee op te hangen met de beloning! Die Beth toch.....
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Op zaterdag 1 oktober 2005 05:39 schreef dontcare het volgende:

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Meteen een dikke vette boete geven voor illigaal plakken van posters

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Op zaterdag 1 oktober 2005 07:12 schreef JohnDope het volgende:

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Die boete kan ze makkelijk betalen.

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Remember it was Thomas Twitty who "identified" Joran to Beth. Of course he did that from Alabama and via long distance. Thomas was at Carlos & Charlies and saw Natalee get in a car with them.

First off, there are ALOT of tourists in Aruba and at C & C that resemble the 3 boys so without Thomas knowing Joran and his info it would have been impossible otherwise to know "who" Natalee got in the car with. I think If the boys did something bad to Natalee or an accident happened, they could have easily just denied everything such as EVEN DENYING leaving with her. There is NO PROOF or evidence that they did, besides they boys actually admitting it. Hypoethetically speaking, if Kalpoes and Joran denied going for a drive with Natalee, what do you think would have held up in court.......some drunken off their asses tourists (who fled the country) or 3 boys without evidence.

Typically criminals don't admit they lied. Even a criminal with a weapon in is hand and a dead body in the other hand will still deny it. So the fact the boys admitted that from the start was something credible in itself. Remember the Twitty boys never even admitted knowing Natalee...they pretended they didn't know her but they were in her classes and spent every weekend with her at the country house and Beth even kept it from the prosecution and Dave that they were with her in Aruba.

Ok back to 9:30 am when Natalee didn't show up in the lobby to catch her flight. Thomas again was the person who had Joran's info and he could have easily gotten his contact info and gone there (the same way Beth did a day and a half later). Let's look at this innocently, and all of you think back to being 18....you party alot and sleep over at places (sometimes you did the nasty and sometimes it was innocent). Now if you were catching a flight out of town in 2 hours, wouldn't it make sense to at least go to the casino in the holiday inn and ask for Joran's last name and call there to see if Natalee was there? And then call Kalpoes to see if she "slept over" to wake her up to catch her flight. Because at first even her friends thought she just must have slept in somewhere.

BUT ......Thomas and Hunter really knew what happened that is why they didn't act upon it. If at that point for example, they called Joran's house or went there and said "my cousin is missing and left with your son" to either the VDS house or the Kalpoes house, the parents would have automatically called the cops, who would have started investigating right away and noone would have been boarding their flights. So they didn't do that.

Also who in their right mind, if your cousin (or even your friend) is missing, you don't leave the country. They were 2 twins, even 1 could have at least stayed behind. I can't believe that Jug or Beth wouldn't have insisted on that. Anyhooooo GUILT but whatever.

The football coach (of the football players Thomas and Hunter) did stay behind. BUT HE ALSO DID NOT GO TO THE VDS HOUSE OR KALPOE HOUSE. WHY NOT? He knew from Thomas who those guys were and their address. ITS ALL SO FISHY AND STINKSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS.

Instead of doing that at 9:30 am or 10:30 am or 11:30 am that day when Natalee missed her flight (and guess what folks, I have done that myself on a trip and nothing bad happened, just slept in. Another time I even was having a good time and changed my flight to another day and actually forgot to call my parents to tell them that and were at the airport to pick me up and I wasn't on the flight....I know completely irresponsible but shit happens when you are having fun).

Anyway Beth & Jug show up at 3:30 am ish at the VDS house asking for their daughter. BUT WHYYYYYYY the hell didn't they ALSO go to the Kalpoes house since they knew Natalee got in Kalpoes car and left with the 3 boys. Wouldn't you go to both houses looking for your daughter? And Beth has since been telling the media that it was DEEPAK who left C & C with Natalee holding her arm up, so why the hell didn't you go to DEEPAKs'house.

Ok long post I know....I just want to point out to everyone that these actions of Thomas & Hunter Twitty and the MB students and chaperones is highly suspicious.

Not to mention Marcia the twin's mommys confiscating the cell phones and cameras and lawyering up. But had they all notified the cops anytime before their flight left.......NOONE would have been allowed to leave the island.

Now BEth......resourceful as she is....can locate the FBI and DEA and get them on the case, but doesnt' call police in ARUBA.

IF MY DAUGHTER did not show up for her flight .....I would have immediately called the ARUBAN cops and of course they would have interrogated the MB students but Beth the demanding person she is, would have made sure the cops keep them there and get info from them. Don't tell me Beth would let them come back to USA and then pretend to not have spoken to them or chaperones at all!!!!!

Beth can chase all arubans down and harrass them but she never did that to the Mb students.

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Rudy Croes: ‘Houding Twitty onbegrijpelijk’
29 Sep, 2005, 20:12 (GMT -04:00)

ORANJESTAD — Volgens minister Rudy Croes (MEP) van Justitie is er niet veel te doen aan het handelen van Beth Twitty, de moeder van de op 30 mei verdwenen Natalee Holloway. Haar verklaren tot ongewenste vreemdeling is volgens hem geen optie, omdat de Amerikaanse pers dat enorm zou opblazen. De maatregel zou daardoor een omgekeerd effect kunnen hebben.

Ook de afgelopen dagen is Twitty weer in allerlei programma’s te zien geweest, waar ze een oproep deed aan Amerikanen om Aruba als vakantiebestemming te mijden. Minister Croes vindt haar houding onbegrijpelijk: “We hebben alles gedaan wat menselijkerwijs mogelijk is om haar dochter te vinden.” Uiteraard hoopt hij dat de tiener nog ooit tevoorschijn komt, maar hij geeft aan dat kwaadspreken daartoe in ieder geval niet zal bijdragen.

Veel Arubanen zijn heel boos op Twitty en bang dat haar voortdurende oproepen tegen Aruba een negatief effect zal hebben op het toerisme. Hoewel dat nog niet uit de cijfers blijkt, wordt door de overheid wel de vinger aan de pols gehouden. Croes is nu nog niet van plan maatregelen te nemen tegen Twitty, maar sluit niet uit dat in de toekomst wel mogelijkheden worden gevonden om haar de mond te snoeren. Intussen is de Nederlandse regering gevraagd om op diplomatiek niveau Aruba bij te staan in deze kwestie.

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Croes is nu nog niet van plan maatregelen te nemen tegen Twitty, maar sluit niet uit dat in de toekomst wel mogelijkheden worden gevonden om haar de mond te snoeren.

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Op zaterdag 1 oktober 2005 14:43 schreef SpugendeLama het volgende:

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Ik zie de koppen al:

Arubaanse overheid stuurt death squads naar Amerika voor moord op mevrouw Twitty.
Amerikaanse marine in hoogste staat van paraatheid.
Chavez steunt Amerikaanse vergeldingsmaatregelen.
Belgie maakt vloot klaar voor gezamelijk Belgisch-Nederlands offensief tegen Amerika
Bouterse roept op tot solidariteit met Aruba.

heerlijk

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Op zaterdag 1 oktober 2005 15:20 schreef StarGazer het volgende:
Kan die moeder niet dood ofzo

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Op dinsdag 4 oktober 2005 10:31 schreef missC het volgende:
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dat je niet eens je zonnebril afzet, zegt mij al weer voldoende.
je kan geen respect vragen als je zelf niet eens weet wat het is.

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Op vrijdag 14 oktober 2005 11:37 schreef halion het volgende:

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Wat een bullshit.
Echt weer een typisch Hollandse gedachtengang: dat je je zonnebril af moet doen als je met iemand spreekt. Geez.

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Op vrijdag 14 oktober 2005 11:37 schreef halion het volgende:

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Wat een bullshit.
Echt weer een typisch Hollandse gedachtengang: dat je je zonnebril af moet doen als je met iemand spreekt. Geez.

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Op dinsdag 18 oktober 2005 12:39 schreef Rammstein68 het volgende:
ik discussieer op enkele fora over Natalee Holloway, maar als je leest hoeveel fantasie en verzinsels klakkeloos als waar worden aangenomen dan is dit verbijsterend. Veel dingen kun je met een beetje onderzoek of "logisch" nadenken zo naar de prullenbak verwijzen maar voor amerikanen is dit dagenlang voer voor de meest wilde discussies.

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Op dinsdag 18 oktober 2005 13:06 schreef Zemi77 het volgende:
Wanneer komt twitty nu naar a'dam? Of durft ze niet meer

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Op donderdag 20 oktober 2005 09:31 schreef SocialDisorder het volgende:
Als Twitty Holloway hierheen komt, ben ik bang dat er een aantal mensen zijn die er voor zorgen dat er een tweede Holloway verdwijnt..........

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Op dinsdag 18 oktober 2005 12:39 schreef Rammstein68 het volgende:
ik discussieer op enkele fora over Natalee Holloway, maar als je leest hoeveel fantasie en verzinsels klakkeloos als waar worden aangenomen dan is dit verbijsterend. Veel dingen kun je met een beetje onderzoek of "logisch" nadenken zo naar de prullenbak verwijzen maar voor amerikanen is dit dagenlang voer voor de meest wilde discussies.

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Op donderdag 20 oktober 2005 10:05 schreef halion het volgende:

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Dat komt omdat Amerikanen over het algemeen meer verbeeldingskracht en fantasie hebben dan de meeste futloze en oernuchtere Hollanders. Waarom denk je dat alle goede films uit de States komen en het creatieve vermogen van de Nederlandse producenten om te huilen is? Juist ja.

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Op donderdag 20 oktober 2005 10:05 schreef halion het volgende:

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Dat komt omdat Amerikanen over het algemeen meer verbeeldingskracht en fantasie hebben dan de meeste futloze en oernuchtere Hollanders. Waarom denk je dat alle goede films uit de States komen en het creatieve vermogen van de Nederlandse producenten om te huilen is? Juist ja.

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Op donderdag 20 oktober 2005 10:09 schreef BwennieBren het volgende:

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Zal me niets verbazen wanneer dit verhaal ook wordt verfilmd en uitgezonden wordt RTL4, Waargebeurde Verhalen...

Overigens het schijnt dat CSI Miami al een soortgelijk verhaal in een van hun afleveringen in de USA heeft gehad.

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Op donderdag 20 oktober 2005 10:58 schreef SocialDisorder het volgende:

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Ik kan me een aflevering van CSI:Miami herinneren rond een ontvoering van een latina-meisje. kwam er op neer dat als ze blank, blond en knap was geweest 100% media aandacht had gehad.....

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Op donderdag 20 oktober 2005 12:44 schreef JohnDope het volgende:
Je moet niet zoveel tv kijken.
Want ook als er een latinameisje of een negeroide meisje (uit de neo conservatieve clan) op aruba was gekidnapt op dezelfde manier als Holoway, dan hadden die amerikanen er ook als ratten op gezeten.

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Op donderdag 20 oktober 2005 12:44 schreef JohnDope het volgende:
Je moet niet zoveel tv kijken.
Want ook als er een latinameisje of een negeroide meisje (uit de neo conservatieve clan) op aruba was gekidnapt op dezelfde manier als Holoway, dan hadden die amerikanen er ook als ratten op gezeten.