Meisje vermist op Aruba #7 - Stilte voor de storm?

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Op woensdag 28 september 2005 08:53 schreef SocialDisorder het volgende:
typisch Amerikaans; Joran studeert in Den Haag, deel posters uit in Amsterdam

Dus nu komt ze naar Nederland......beseft ze wel dat Aruba en Nederland verder uit elkaar liggen dan New York en Amsterdam? En trouwens, de beloning voor eendode Nat was toch 100.000 dollar eerst?
Misschien dat ik toch maar eens moet gaan zoeken

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Op woensdag 28 september 2005 09:16 schreef Wuder het volgende:
Zullen we een anti-Beth poster campagne starten?

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Op woensdag 28 september 2005 11:11 schreef BwennieBren het volgende:

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Misschien doet de Haagse School waar Joran op zit dat wel

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Op woensdag 28 september 2005 19:12 schreef xFriendx het volgende:
Wat ik niet snap is:

Joran was bij haar, op het strand. Ze was in beschonken toestand toen hij weg ging. Hoe komt het dan dat hij ook iets moet weten van haar verdwijning?
Als ik uit ga met Jan en Piet, en Jan is te bezopen om te kunnen lopen, en Piet en ik smeren em maar, want we willen zelf ook wel maffen, dan weten we toch niet wat Jan de rest van de avond doet. Wie weet ontvoeren aliens hem, wie weet loopt ie de zee in, misschien springt hij van een rots....who knows.
Zou toch raar zijn als jij belt naar Opsporing Verzocht betreffende een vermissing, en jij meld dat je tijdens het uitlaten van je hond je de persoon om 1 uur 's nachts nog hebt gezien, dat jij dan door iedereen aangezien wordt als de moordenaar?
Ik vind het heel erg voor die moeder, zoiets wens je niemand toe, maar je kan ook doorschieten. Zo'n onderzoek zal er door al die media echt niet beter van worden.

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Op donderdag 29 september 2005 09:43 schreef missC het volgende:
Desnoods over de schouder en stribbelend,

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Op donderdag 29 september 2005 21:51 schreef Stratos het volgende:
^^

Dronken, misschien is ze in de zee gedoken en verdronken? De zee was erg ruw die nacht.

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Op vrijdag 30 september 2005 01:27 schreef SocialDisorder het volgende:
er zijn wel meer fouten gemaakt hoor, de grootste dat de groep die met Natalee reisde meteen op het vliegtuig naar huis is gezet. Als zij Nat met Joran weg zagen gaan, is het wel interessant op welke manier dat gebeurde.

En dat ze hierheen komt haalt niets uit, hooguit dat ze van een zekere Fok!-user met een paarse kikker in z'n usericon een lading stront in dr mond gesmeerd krijgt

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Transcript from Rita Cosby with Beth and Joe last night

COSBY: And we have exclusive new information in the Natalee Holloway case tonight. We‘re learning about new members of the team that will not give up in their search for Natalee on the island of Aruba. Beth Holloway Twitty joins me now live from Philadelphia. She‘s also joined with philanthropist Joe Mammana, who has donated a lot of money in support of finding Natalee.

Beth, first to you. Why are you in Philadelphia? I understand you now have a new addition, an attorney, in the case. Tell us about it.

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, MOTHER OF MISSING GIRL: Well, I did meet with an attorney today, Rita. And you know, we really just don‘t want to leave any stone unturned. And if there‘s any other avenue that we can pursue, you know, we want to do that. We just really don‘t—we just really haven‘t been able to look at any of our options here. So you know, that‘s kind of where we are, and we‘re just beginning this process.

COSBY: Now, this attorney is Marty Trichon. Tell us a little bit about him, if you could, Beth or Joe, either one of you.

JOE MAMMANA, PHILADELPHIA PHILANTHROPIST: Well, how‘re you doing, Rita? Marty is one of my attorneys, who‘s been on retainer, works with my company. He‘s a former prosecutor. He‘s hard-core, doesn‘t leave any stones unturned. And he‘s a little different than I. He always believes I over E—intellect over emotion. So intellectually, he‘s putting everything together. He‘s going to circle the wagons in both directions and sit and we‘re going to review what is the best option to move forward.

We‘re also bringing in a gentleman named Eliot Curson (ph). We‘ll be meeting with him tomorrow in Philadelphia. He was involved in 1980 with President Reagan and his—I guess his reelection campaign. So we‘re bringing a public relation person in. And again, we‘re going to put a team together that will be second to none, and we‘ll follow their advice.

COSBY: And Joe, what are some of the options that both of you are looking at?

MAMMANA: Well, you know, I can speak for myself. I won‘t speak for Beth. But my options are—personally, I would like to go after the island of Aruba in every way possible. These people have not been honest. They have not been fair. I personally want to boycott it and go for a national boycott of the island of Aruba.

I want this little smug punk named Joran, or whatever his name is, to realize, to get the little grin off his face, and that light that he sees at the end of the tunnel is a train coming head on. I am not going to until we know where Natalee Holloway is and until Beth Twitty can put her head on a pillow at night and go to sleep peacefully.

COSBY: And she certainly deserves that. But I want to show you a comment because Joran, as you know, did an interview recently with “A Current Affair.” A lot of us were just very shocked at even some of the inconsistencies within his own interview. Let me just show a little clip and get your reaction.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

JORAN VAN DER SLOOT, SUSPECT IN NATALEE HOLLOWAY DISAPPEARANCE: Well, obviously, she was drunk. I had stuff to drink, too. But now they don‘t respect that. The Aruban authorities tried to pin it that it was a rape case. She wanted to go with me. I wanted to go with her. It was totally consensual. I had something to drink, and she had something to drink.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

COSBY: You know, Beth, you have seen this case. You know this case inside and out. You‘ve seen the police statements. How many inconsistent statements are—and do you believe there was anything consensual about after they left the bar?

TWITTY: Well, you know, Rita, first, before he begins that statement, he prefaces it with that Natalee was saying a lot of strange things. And I mean, he says that twice, and then he says, Obviously, she‘s drunk. So I mean, it sounds like to me that—that she‘s possibly been drugged, also in how he has her talking. And then in his statements, he describes Natalee as coming in and out of consciousness repeatedly while he is performing these sexual assaults against her. And I just can‘t see how in the world that would be considered consensual.

COSBY: Do you believe that rape charges should be filed, Beth? Because even in light of that, look at what Deepak said. Deepak said, you know, in the comment with Jamie Skeeters (ph), the polygrapher and investigator who was down there—you and I both know—I mean, he essentially said, We all had sex with her. And then we know that he was—you know, in and out of consciousness. Don‘t you think that that‘s enough to even go after possible rape charges?

TWITTY: You know, Rita, I cannot—I just—I have a hard time—I just can‘t believe that they cannot, you know, bring charges against him for rape. I mean, it‘s just so clear—well, no, it‘s not just clear, it‘s crystal clear that these men have committed this crime against Natalee. I mean, it‘s a gang rape.

COSBY: How frustrated are you, Beth, when you see this interview,

too, and here he is in Holland, having a good old time, hanging out, like -

and then he said—there was another, part, too. We showed a little clip (INAUDIBLE) show last night, Beth, where he essentially said, I‘m not going to tell you everything now, I‘ll tell you at some point. How outraged are you? Give us the whole story.

TWITTY: Oh, Rita, it is so difficult to—you know, every time I hear this interview from Joran, I just—I mean, I just can‘t believe that these words are coming from him and—you know, because I‘ve seen his statements, and I‘ve read five of them, or had them translated. And you know, that‘s what needs to be read. And where Joran is describing that he‘s having sex with her at his home and—you know, it‘s just amazing that he still continues to place all the blame on Natalee. I mean, he‘s saying that the reason why was because Natalee was drunk. It was her fault, because she wanted to go with him. I mean, he accepts absolutely none of this responsibility.

COSBY: Yes, it‘s outrageous. It‘s everybody else‘s fault but his own. Beth, what do you hope to achieve, also, with—with these new folks, with Eliot Curson and also Marty Trichon? What do you—what do you hope? Do you hope to call for sort of an overall boycott to maybe try to put pressure for more charges?

TWITTY: Well, you know, Rita, we really don‘t know what all might come from this. And you know, as far as my stand on that, I have been asking the millions of people that have supported our family through this, you know, if they would please consider not traveling to Aruba and other Dutch territories, just until Natalee is returned to us. And they—the island has the ability to make this happen.

COSBY: What do you think is the most important thing, that these two folks, obviously, very capable folks with their strong backgrounds, having them, having Joe—what is sort of the most important priority with this new group for you?

TWITTY: Well, you know, Rita, it‘s how we‘ve done this whole investigation, and it‘s just, hopefully, a new door will open and we will enter. You know, that‘s how we‘ve looked at this. We feel like we‘ve been on a path. And you know, as long as another door can be opened, we‘re going to go through is it and just see what happens. We just don‘t know yet, Rita.

COSBY: Well, both of you, please keep us posted. And our prayers are with you. And you know, whatever we can do, we‘re there for both of you guys. Thank you so much.

TWITTY: Thank you, Rita.

MAMMANA: Thank you, Rita.

COSBY: Thank you both.

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Op vrijdag 30 september 2005 00:44 schreef BwennieBren het volgende:
Ik vertoef me ook (als lezer, geen poster) op verschillende sites over Natalee en zie idd dat uitleg over het Arubaanse/Nederlandse rechtssysteem het geen zin heeft. Vele Amerikanen hebben dan ook echt, sorry dat ik het zeg, geen bord maar een betonnen atoombunker voor hun kop zitten. Waar er imo wel fout is gegaan, is dat Aruba de jongens aanvankelijk 10 dagen hebben laten lopen.

Overigens zal Beth Twitty als naar Nederland gaat natuurlijk de slechte kant van de Nederlanders laten zien. Ze heeft al bijna geen zaak meer! Er is nl geen bewijsmateriaal! Dus ze moet wel IETS doen, al is het een regering van corruptie beschuldigen. Ja, ik ben achterdochtig.

Ze komt overigens niet alleen maar komt met een Siciliaanse (ex-oplichter) zakenman Joe Mamamaa, President en CEO van Yardley Farms, die veel geld stouwt in het vinden van vermiste mensen. De meneer is geen makkelijke zo te lezen maar dat zal in ons kikkerlandje niet veel uitmaken vrees ik. Hij en Beth blijven natuurlijk toeristen.

Ik geloof niet dat haar bezoek aan Nederland een goede zet van haar zou zijn. Ze zou opgepakt kunnen worden voor stalken, een boete kunnen krijgen voor wildplakken (60 euro per poster) als ze daar niet eerst toestemming voor vraagt en misschien wel zomaar het land uitgezet wordt. Want ja, wie is Natalee Holloway dan wel in Nederland ? Helemaal nobody!

We zullen het zien.....

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Op vrijdag 30 september 2005 02:35 schreef BwennieBren het volgende:
bij de Haagse school van Joran.

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Dutch-born Joran, 18, flew there after being released from prison to attend Arnhem Business School.

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Op vrijdag 30 september 2005 03:06 schreef SpugendeLama het volgende:
Wel ja, in Nederland gooien ze bijna nooit iemand in het gevang laat staan dit arme mens.

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Op vrijdag 30 september 2005 03:30 schreef SpugendeLama het volgende:

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