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De geluidsopnames zijn echt, daar is geen twijfel over.quote:Op woensdag 8 maart 2006 03:16 schreef Drugshond het volgende:
Lijkt me vooralsnog een [TRU] of zelfs een [WFL] topic.... maar de streaming is de moeite van het bekijken zeer zeker waard (of je er nu wel of geen brood in ziet).
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tvp...reden? Ik heb gvd geen geluid hier op die werkpc die dateert uit 1942.....dus straks thuis topic ophalen en checken!
Op dinsdag 22 november 2011 @ 18:21 schreef Jigzoz het volgende:
Vrije mensen dien je te redden van beestachtige regimes.
Vrije mensen dien je te redden van beestachtige regimes.
op CNN.com gepubliceerd: March 7, 2006; Posted: 9:48 p.m. EST (02:48 GMT)
Jurors riveted by Flight 11's last minutes
Flight attendant: 'Oh my God, we are way too low!'
Moussaoui, an admitted al Qaeda member, could be sentenced to death.
The men who exposed Moussaoui (6:53)
ALEXANDRIA, Virginia (AP) -- Jurors at Zacarias Moussaoui's sentencing trial were transfixed Tuesday by a minute-by-minute account of al Qaeda's hijacking of American Airlines' Flight 11 and the plane's journey into the north tower of the World Trade Center.
"We are flying low. We are flying very very low. We are flying way too low," flight attendant Amy Sweeney told ground controllers who asked where the plane was at 8:44 a.m. on September 11, 2001.
A few seconds' pause, and then, finally: "Oh my God, we are way too low!"
The phone went dead at 8:46 a.m. as the Boeing 767 jetliner hit the tower in the first of four crashes by hijacked jetliners that day.
The dramatic account came from a federal prosecutor who read from radiophone transmissions.
Moussaoui, the confessed al Qaeda conspirator who is facing a life-or-death decision, was as electrified as the jury and the audience.
Moussaoui: 'God curse America'
Leaving the courtroom for a recess moments later, the 37-year-old Frenchman of Moroccan descent surged from his chair, pumped his right fist in the air and shouted: "Allah Akbar! God curse America! Bless Osama bin Laden!"
The actual audio recordings of radiophone calls by flight attendants on Flight 11 have been played in public before. But to avoid inflaming the jury at Moussaoui's sentencing trial, prosecutors and defense attorneys agreed instead to read an account of the flight, including major sections of the phone call transcripts.
Nevertheless, the reading by Assistant U.S. Attorney David Raskin riveted the jury and audience -- all the more so because it came after two hours of mind-numbing testimony by FBI agent James M. Fitzgerald about how the bureau tracked the hijackers after September 11.
'The cockpit is not answering'
That changed when Raskin took over and opened with the first transmission from flight attendant Betty Ong aboard Flight 11 to American Airlines ground workers at 8:19 a.m.:
"The cockpit is not answering. Somebody's been stabbed in business class. I think we've been Maced. We can't breathe."
The point of Fitzgerald's long description of the pre-attack behavior of the September 11 hijackers was to show how similarly they acted.
At some point, prosecutors will bring on witnesses to show that Moussaoui also did many of the same things and got money from the same source, but Fitzgerald never mentioned Moussaoui in his testimony.
Nor did he say there was any contact whatsoever between Moussaoui and the 19 hijackers, a point the defense has already stressed.
Earlier, defense attorney Edward MacMahon got FBI agent Michael Anticev to acknowledge on cross-examination that the FBI was aware years before September 11 that al Qaeda had plans to fly airplanes into prominent buildings.
Moussaoui's lawyers are portraying him as a pathetic loner who dreamed of becoming a terrorist but was shut out of September 11 planning and considered by one al Qaeda leader "cuckoo in the head."
What did FBI know -- and when?
The defense also wants to show the government knew far more about brewing al Qaeda plots than Moussaoui did, and in that vein pressed Anticev on what the FBI was doing to follow up on warning signals before September 11.
Anticev at first asserted, "I don't think anybody was looking at using aircraft as weapons," but acknowledged under questioning that the FBI had been aware before September 11 that an Algerian group linked to al Qaeda planned to fly airliners into the Eiffel Tower and into a cathedral in Strasbourg, France.
Moussaoui pleaded guilty in April to conspiring with al-Qaida to hijack planes and commit other crimes. The jury will choose between execution or life in prison without possibility of release.
To obtain the death penalty, prosecutors must first prove Moussaoui took an action that led directly to deaths on September 11. Moussaoui denies he had any role in September 11 and says he was training for a possible future attack on the White House.
Copyright 2006 The Associated Press.
op Jurors riveted by Flight 11's last minutes
Flight attendant: 'Oh my God, we are way too low!'
Moussaoui, an admitted al Qaeda member, could be sentenced to death.
The men who exposed Moussaoui (6:53)
ALEXANDRIA, Virginia (AP) -- Jurors at Zacarias Moussaoui's sentencing trial were transfixed Tuesday by a minute-by-minute account of al Qaeda's hijacking of American Airlines' Flight 11 and the plane's journey into the north tower of the World Trade Center.
"We are flying low. We are flying very very low. We are flying way too low," flight attendant Amy Sweeney told ground controllers who asked where the plane was at 8:44 a.m. on September 11, 2001.
A few seconds' pause, and then, finally: "Oh my God, we are way too low!"
The phone went dead at 8:46 a.m. as the Boeing 767 jetliner hit the tower in the first of four crashes by hijacked jetliners that day.
The dramatic account came from a federal prosecutor who read from radiophone transmissions.
Moussaoui, the confessed al Qaeda conspirator who is facing a life-or-death decision, was as electrified as the jury and the audience.
Moussaoui: 'God curse America'
Leaving the courtroom for a recess moments later, the 37-year-old Frenchman of Moroccan descent surged from his chair, pumped his right fist in the air and shouted: "Allah Akbar! God curse America! Bless Osama bin Laden!"
The actual audio recordings of radiophone calls by flight attendants on Flight 11 have been played in public before. But to avoid inflaming the jury at Moussaoui's sentencing trial, prosecutors and defense attorneys agreed instead to read an account of the flight, including major sections of the phone call transcripts.
Nevertheless, the reading by Assistant U.S. Attorney David Raskin riveted the jury and audience -- all the more so because it came after two hours of mind-numbing testimony by FBI agent James M. Fitzgerald about how the bureau tracked the hijackers after September 11.
'The cockpit is not answering'
That changed when Raskin took over and opened with the first transmission from flight attendant Betty Ong aboard Flight 11 to American Airlines ground workers at 8:19 a.m.:
"The cockpit is not answering. Somebody's been stabbed in business class. I think we've been Maced. We can't breathe."
The point of Fitzgerald's long description of the pre-attack behavior of the September 11 hijackers was to show how similarly they acted.
At some point, prosecutors will bring on witnesses to show that Moussaoui also did many of the same things and got money from the same source, but Fitzgerald never mentioned Moussaoui in his testimony.
Nor did he say there was any contact whatsoever between Moussaoui and the 19 hijackers, a point the defense has already stressed.
Earlier, defense attorney Edward MacMahon got FBI agent Michael Anticev to acknowledge on cross-examination that the FBI was aware years before September 11 that al Qaeda had plans to fly airplanes into prominent buildings.
Moussaoui's lawyers are portraying him as a pathetic loner who dreamed of becoming a terrorist but was shut out of September 11 planning and considered by one al Qaeda leader "cuckoo in the head."
What did FBI know -- and when?
The defense also wants to show the government knew far more about brewing al Qaeda plots than Moussaoui did, and in that vein pressed Anticev on what the FBI was doing to follow up on warning signals before September 11.
Anticev at first asserted, "I don't think anybody was looking at using aircraft as weapons," but acknowledged under questioning that the FBI had been aware before September 11 that an Algerian group linked to al Qaeda planned to fly airliners into the Eiffel Tower and into a cathedral in Strasbourg, France.
Moussaoui pleaded guilty in April to conspiring with al-Qaida to hijack planes and commit other crimes. The jury will choose between execution or life in prison without possibility of release.
To obtain the death penalty, prosecutors must first prove Moussaoui took an action that led directly to deaths on September 11. Moussaoui denies he had any role in September 11 and says he was training for a possible future attack on the White House.
Copyright 2006 The Associated Press.
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nieuwswaarde 100%
dit is biterre ernst.
pak van mijn part een zak chips erbij
maar kijk deze film
en vraag je af wat dit betekend.
en wat je kunt doen.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5137581991288263801&q=loose+change
dit is biterre ernst.
pak van mijn part een zak chips erbij
maar kijk deze film
en vraag je af wat dit betekend.
en wat je kunt doen.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5137581991288263801&q=loose+change
Vraag yvonne maar hoe tof ik ben, die gaf mij er ooit een tagje voor.
POL 911 nu moeten de feiten op tafel.
9/11 FEITEN: loose change.
Hoeveel topics ga je nog openen over deze shit?
9/11 FEITEN: loose change.
Hoeveel topics ga je nog openen over deze shit?
cool muziekje wel.
When you're racing, it's life. Anything that happens before or after is just waiting.
Ze willen denk ik nieuwe markten aanboren, aardig aggresieve marketing.quote:Op zondag 12 maart 2006 21:14 schreef Dwaashaas het volgende:
Deze stond toch ook al een paar keer in een van de \ alle 9\11 topics die er nu lopen ?
dedicated to the lives we(,ve) lost?
hoofdletters kosten teveel tijd
don't avoid pain to gain pleasure
niet iedereen is iedereen
don't avoid pain to gain pleasure
niet iedereen is iedereen
Zoveel als nodig zijn.quote:Op zondag 12 maart 2006 21:09 schreef NightH4wk het volgende:
POL 911 nu moeten de feiten op tafel.
9/11 FEITEN: loose change.
Hoeveel topics ga je nog openen over deze shit?
O, ye Fountains, Meadows, Hills, and Groves
Nieuwswaarde 100%?? Lees na het kijken van Loose Change, deze review maar eens: http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/green/loose_change.htmlquote:Op zondag 12 maart 2006 20:54 schreef BaajGuardian het volgende:
nieuwswaarde 100%
dit is biterre ernst.
pak van mijn part een zak chips erbij
maar kijk deze film
en vraag je af wat dit betekend.
en wat je kunt doen.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5137581991288263801&q=loose+change
En ja de reviewer gelooft in conspirancies. Maar over deze docu is hij duidelijk: If a film-maker or live lecturer has the good fortune of having the attention of someone like this, or good solid middle-Americans, for an hour-long DVD, or for a 2-3 hour live presentation, he had better use clear hard facts for persuasion, and not iffy, vaguely or ambiguously supported possibilities.
Verassing: No one cares... Doordat jullie zo idioot doen neemt niemand zelfs de oprechte vragen nog serieus. En daarnaast verandert het niks, al zou er ooit iets bewezen worden.quote:
ik vind het semi-amusant om te zien dat sommige mensen de realiteit niet aankunnen. semi omdat het ergens ook heel zielig is.
hoofdletters kosten teveel tijd
don't avoid pain to gain pleasure
niet iedereen is iedereen
don't avoid pain to gain pleasure
niet iedereen is iedereen
quote:Op zondag 12 maart 2006 22:11 schreef Johan_de_With het volgende:
Het zou zomaar een richtlijn van Bush kunnen zijn.
Telling the truth over and over again, allowing it to sink in.
O, ye Fountains, Meadows, Hills, and Groves
Hallulama gaat weer onder een afdakje staan hoor.quote:Op zondag 12 maart 2006 22:11 schreef Johan_de_With het volgende:
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Het zou zomaar een richtlijn van Bush kunnen zijn.
Gisteren heb ik e.e.a. gedownload qua video footage en ga ik vanavond nog eens op mijn gemak omzetten naar een DVD-tje of wat. Crap of geen crap de verslagen + uitleg is heel professioneel opgezet. En goed voor een paar zakken chips + cola.
Wat is precies onzin in jouw optiek? Laat ik het anders vragen: wat is er volgens jou goed en eenduidig aan willekeurig welk aspect van de officiële lezing (ook een conspiracy theory overigens, alleen een waar echt heel veel gaten in zitten.)quote:Op zondag 12 maart 2006 21:50 schreef Prior het volgende:
Één is voldoende. De verstandigen zijn toch blind voor deze pure onzin.
V.
Ja inderdaad, V. ja.
Iedereen in het 9/11 forumquote:Op maandag 13 maart 2006 13:30 schreef Drugshond het volgende:
- offtopic -
Wie kan mij hiermee helpen ?
Zodra we opengaan...
Zodra we opengaan...Zie je mailbox.
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quote:Op zondag 12 maart 2006 22:22 schreef schatje het volgende:
Hallulama gaat weer onder een afdakje staan hoor.
O, ye Fountains, Meadows, Hills, and Groves
Gelezen en mail back, van wat mijn persoonlijke standpunt is.quote:Op maandag 13 maart 2006 20:47 schreef Oversight het volgende:
Iedereen in het 9/11 forum
Zodra we opengaan...
Zie je mailbox.
