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Jim Brown, de beste RB ooit in de NFL en misschien wel de beste speler ooit.
There’s been a lot of talk in recent years – and in recent days – about Jerry Rice’s place on the totem pole of gridiron greatness. He’s certainly the best receiver in NFL history. That contest ended long ago. But is he the best football player of all time?
That honor continues to belong to Jim Brown, who plowed over defenses as a running back for Cleveland from 1957 to 1965, dominated the league like no other player before or since, and then walked off the field at the height of his greatness with his pride, body and reputation fully intact. Forty years after he last played a game, Brown continues to hold a position of singular greatness in the history of football.
We were reminded of Brown’s dominance on and off the field during an appearance he made last week on NFL Network’s “Total Access.” Brown was interviewed by hosts Rich Eisen and former Atlanta and Oakland offensive tackle Lincoln Kennedy, and by guest host Brentson Buckner, the Carolina defensive end.
Brown, who announced during the appearance that he’s now employed by the Browns organization, was there to talk about Cleveland tight end Kellen Winslow Jr., who issued a public apology last week after tearing up his knee while riding a motorcycle this offseason. Winslow will miss the entire 2005 season, after missing all but two games in his rookie campaign of 2004.
Buckner and Kennedy had roundly criticized Winslow in an earlier episode of Total Access. They questioned his maturity and his decision to issue a written and not a spoken apology. Brown defended Winslow’s character and his method of apology.
It took all of 10 seconds to realize that Brown ruled the floor.
During the segment, Brown calmly, clearly and forcefully attacked Kennedy and Buckner. He told Kennedy (who deferred to the NFL great as “Mr. Brown”) and Buckner that people in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones and reminded them of their own moments of public immaturity.
Brown said he remembers Kennedy, whose playing weight was listed at 335 pounds and whose flesh virtually poured from his uniform, dancing on the field. “There’s nothing dignified about that,” said Brown.
Buckner attempted to rebut his accuser. Brown quickly put the 310-pound, 33-year old defensive end in his place. “You better leave it alone, big fella,” said Brown, who turned 69 in February.
Buckner, like Kennedy, was left virtually speechless. It was a triumph of old school dignity over mouthy modernity and said volumes about Brown’s status in the uber-macho realm of professional football.
The exchange made for great television, but it was little more than a symbol of Brown’s reverential status in the world of football. The Cold, Hard Football Facts offer a concrete assessment. And they show that Brown still stands above Rice as the greatest player ever to snap on a helmet and shoulder pads.
Quite simply, Brown dominated football in a way that Rice never has.
In Brown’s worst statistical season, his rookie year of 1957 (a 12-game season), he led the league in rushing (202 carries, 942 yards, 4.7 yards per carry), ran for nine touchdowns, scored a 10th receiving, was named NFL rookie of the year, made the Pro Bowl and was named the league’s MVP. Again, that was his worst statistical season.
Brown walked off the field eight years later at the height of his power. In his final year in football, the 14-game 1965 season, Brown rushed for 1,544 yards on 289 attempts (an awesome 5.3 yards per carry). He also caught 34 passses for another 328 yards and scored 21 touchdowns (17 rushing, 4 receiving). He was again named the NFL’s Most Valuable Player.
His dominance is truly apparent when you consider that Brown played just 118 NFL games. During that time, he rushed for 12,312 yards, compiled 14,811 yards of offense (an average of 125.5 per game), and ran for 106 touchdowns. All were NFL records.
Forty years after he last played, Brown continues to hold numerous rushing records. His average of 104.3 yards per game remains the best of all time. Barry Sanders is second with 99.8 rush yards per game.
Brown also averaged 5.2 yards each time he ran the ball, a per-carry clip unmatched in NFL history (among running backs with 750 or more career attempts). Think of that for a moment. Last season, Curtis Martin had the best year of his career and led the league with 1,697 yards rushing. He averaged 4.6 yards per carry. Brown bested that by more than half a yard over the course of his entire career.
Quite simply, Brown’s productivity over such a short period – his nine-year dominance – is unmatched by any player at any time in football history. His record of 12,312 rushing yards has since been surpassed by seven of the greatest running backs in NFL history. But a comparison of each player’s first 118 games leaves no question that Brown was better than any of them.
Rice is an incredible football player, one of the true physical marvels in modern sports history, and he holds a mountain of receiving records. But his records are mostly a product of longevity. If Rice’s career ended after 118 games, for example, he'd have 9,687 receiving yards and 16 players would be ahead of him today on the all-time receiving list. In other words, he simply cannot compare to the sheer dominance with which Brown ruled the league for nearly a decade.
* Brown led the league in rushing a record eight times in nine seasons. No other player has more than four rushing titles.
* Rice led the league in receiving yards six times in 20 seasons. The record is held by Green Bay’s Don Hutson, who led the league in receiving seven times in 11 seasons.
* Brown led the league in rushing a record five straight seasons (1957-61). Next on the list are four players who led the league in rushing three straight seasons. Brown’s also among those four who have three straight rushing titles (1963-65).
* Rice led the league in receiving yards three straight times (1993-95). Hutson led the league in receiving a record four consecutive seasons (1941-44).
* Brown led the league in rushing attempts a record six times in nine seasons. No other player has led the league in attempts more than four times.
* Rice led the league in receptions twice (1990 and 1996) in 20 seasons. Eight players have led the league in receptions three or more times. Hutson led the league in receptions a record eight times.
* Brown led the league in touchdown runs a record five times in nine seasons
* Rice led the league in touchdown receptions six times in 20 seasons. Hutson led the league in touchdown receptions a record nine times.
* Brown led the league in touchdown runs three straight years (1957-59), a record he shares with four other players.
* Rice led the league in touchdown receptions three straight years (1989-91). Hutson led the league in touchdown receptions a record five straight years (1940-44) and again for four straight years (1935-38).
* Brown led the league in overall touchdowns three times in nine seasons.
* Rice led the league in overall touchdowns twice in 20 seasons.
* Brown is one of just four players in history to rush for five or more touchdowns in a game. Gayle Sayers holds the record with six rushing touchdowns in one game.
* Rice is one of just three players in history to catch a record five touchdown passes in a game.
* Brown is the only running back in NFL history to twice win the league’s MVP award.
* Rice has never been named the league’s MVP (but no receiver has won the award since the Associated Press began issuing it in 1957).
* Brown made nine Pro Bowls in nine seasons.
* Rice made 13 Pro Bowls in 20 seasons.
Rice, of course, deserves mountains of credit for playing to such an advanced age. He is, again, one of the true physical marvels of our time. In fact, he made the Pro Bowl as recently as the 2002 season, when he was 40 years old. He also deserves lavish praise for his brilliant performances at the height of his career. Still, even at his best, Rice was not the force on the football field that Brown was.
But don’t feel bad for Rice. There’s no shame in playing second football fiddle to Jim Brown. And there’s no shame in deferring to him. Just ask Brentson Buckner and Lincoln Kennedy.
Nog een paar weken.
Leuk.
Leuk.
Patience is not one of my virtues, neither is memory. Or patience for that matter.
Weer een interessant stuk (qua fundamentals dan). Deze keer over de I-formation (ik gebruik hem in Madden erg veel)
The I-Formation: Offensive Bread and Butter
By Michael David Smith
Offensive formations are rapidly evolving, with three-receiver sets, four-receiver sets, and multipurpose backs who can line up anywhere and catch the ball as well as they run it. But the way Pro Bowl rosters and media depth charts show each team’s starting lineup hasn’t changed in decades. Every team is still shown with two receivers, a fullback and a running back, the formation that became standard thanks to the development of the I-formation.
The I-formation has been the dominant offensive formation in the NFL and has stayed effective for decades because of the way it balances the running and passing attack. We’ll get into just how that balance is achieved, but first a little bit of history.
Origins
To cap the 1940 season, Chicago Bears coach George Halas used the T-formation (with the fullback directly behind the quarterback and the two halfbacks on either side of the fullback) to beat the Redskins 73-0 in the NFL championship game. Before long other teams saw that the T was more versatile than its predecessor, the single wing, and they adopted the T for themselves. By 1952, the Steelers (the last holdouts) switched to the T, and the single wing was out of pro football.
But around the same time, Tom Nugent, the football coach at Virginia Military Institute, had a new idea. Instead of having halfbacks on each side of the fullback, he thought it made more sense to line up the halfbacks behind the fullback. With the offensive backfield in a straight line, they looked more like an ‘I’ than a ‘T’, and a new formation was named.
After five years at VMI, Nugent brought the I to Florida State in 1954, and it began to spread, most notably to John McKay, who used the formation to win the national championship at USC in 1962. Before long, NFL teams took notice, and the I became the most common set in pro football.
Coaches who frequently run the I-formation often extol its virtues with statements like, “We just want to line up and come right at ‘em.” But there’s nothing inherently tougher about the I than there is about any other formation. What set the I apart from the T and many of the other formations of the early days of football is that it lent itself to a versatile offensive attack. That versatility is still valuable in the modern game.
The Playbook
A typical bread-and-butter play from the I-formation might have a name like “I right 32 iso". That means an I formation with the right side being the strong side – the tight end and the flanker (the wide receiver a yard behind the line of scrimmage) are lined up to the right, with a split end (the wide receiver on the line of scrimmage) on the left. The 32 means the halfback (or the 3-back) is getting the ball and running through the 2-hole (between the center and right guard). “Iso” is short for isolation, meaning the fullback is leading the running back through the hole and engaging the middle linebacker in an isolation, one-on-one block. (You know, the kind of block where the TV audience hears Ray Lewis complain that he was double-teamed.)
The offensive linemen block the players in front of them, with each tackle taking a defensive end, a guard blocking one defensive tackle alone and the other guard and the center double-teaming the other defensive tackle. The tight end blocks the strongside linebacker, and the two receivers might run a flag or a hook route to take the cornerbacks out of the play.
A play like I right 32 iso won’t produce a lot of long runs, but that’s not what it’s designed for. If the right personnel executes it properly, it will accomplish one of two things: Either it will consistently allow the offense to gain four yards a pop (and an offense that can do that will march right down the field) or it will force the defense to bring the strong safety close to the line of scrimmage for run support. When TV announcers describe this, they call it “eight in the box, ” and it means the defense is susceptible to the other bread-and-butter play of the I-formation: the play-action pass.
When the offense sees the strong safety playing run, it becomes clear that it’s time to run the play action. The linemen and fullback have the same blocking responsibilities and try to make it look like a running play. The quarterback fakes a handoff to the running back, but instead of giving up the ball he goes into his seven-step drop. With the strong safety playing run support, the cornerback has no help in coverage on the flanker, who becomes the primary receiver on the play.
Let’s talk a little more about the fullback, who usually lines up about four yards behind the quarterback, with the running back usually about three yards further behind. At seven yards behind the line of scrimmage, the running back can easily survey the field to see where the defensive players are lining up, and he can get a full head of steam so that he’s at full speed when he hits the line of scrimmage. The running back also has time to watch blocks develop and can find cutback lanes.
The flipside, of course, is that a handoff to the running back in the I takes longer to develop than a handoff to the fullback, and that gives the defense more time to react. That’s why in the early days of the I-formation, the fullback regularly carried the ball, especially in short-yardage situations. Today, however, football is a much more specialized game, and I-formation fullbacks are blockers almost exclusively and rarely carry the ball.
bron: www.footballoutsiders.com
The I-Formation: Offensive Bread and Butter
By Michael David Smith
Offensive formations are rapidly evolving, with three-receiver sets, four-receiver sets, and multipurpose backs who can line up anywhere and catch the ball as well as they run it. But the way Pro Bowl rosters and media depth charts show each team’s starting lineup hasn’t changed in decades. Every team is still shown with two receivers, a fullback and a running back, the formation that became standard thanks to the development of the I-formation.
The I-formation has been the dominant offensive formation in the NFL and has stayed effective for decades because of the way it balances the running and passing attack. We’ll get into just how that balance is achieved, but first a little bit of history.
Origins
To cap the 1940 season, Chicago Bears coach George Halas used the T-formation (with the fullback directly behind the quarterback and the two halfbacks on either side of the fullback) to beat the Redskins 73-0 in the NFL championship game. Before long other teams saw that the T was more versatile than its predecessor, the single wing, and they adopted the T for themselves. By 1952, the Steelers (the last holdouts) switched to the T, and the single wing was out of pro football.
But around the same time, Tom Nugent, the football coach at Virginia Military Institute, had a new idea. Instead of having halfbacks on each side of the fullback, he thought it made more sense to line up the halfbacks behind the fullback. With the offensive backfield in a straight line, they looked more like an ‘I’ than a ‘T’, and a new formation was named.
After five years at VMI, Nugent brought the I to Florida State in 1954, and it began to spread, most notably to John McKay, who used the formation to win the national championship at USC in 1962. Before long, NFL teams took notice, and the I became the most common set in pro football.
Coaches who frequently run the I-formation often extol its virtues with statements like, “We just want to line up and come right at ‘em.” But there’s nothing inherently tougher about the I than there is about any other formation. What set the I apart from the T and many of the other formations of the early days of football is that it lent itself to a versatile offensive attack. That versatility is still valuable in the modern game.
The Playbook
A typical bread-and-butter play from the I-formation might have a name like “I right 32 iso". That means an I formation with the right side being the strong side – the tight end and the flanker (the wide receiver a yard behind the line of scrimmage) are lined up to the right, with a split end (the wide receiver on the line of scrimmage) on the left. The 32 means the halfback (or the 3-back) is getting the ball and running through the 2-hole (between the center and right guard). “Iso” is short for isolation, meaning the fullback is leading the running back through the hole and engaging the middle linebacker in an isolation, one-on-one block. (You know, the kind of block where the TV audience hears Ray Lewis complain that he was double-teamed.)
The offensive linemen block the players in front of them, with each tackle taking a defensive end, a guard blocking one defensive tackle alone and the other guard and the center double-teaming the other defensive tackle. The tight end blocks the strongside linebacker, and the two receivers might run a flag or a hook route to take the cornerbacks out of the play.
A play like I right 32 iso won’t produce a lot of long runs, but that’s not what it’s designed for. If the right personnel executes it properly, it will accomplish one of two things: Either it will consistently allow the offense to gain four yards a pop (and an offense that can do that will march right down the field) or it will force the defense to bring the strong safety close to the line of scrimmage for run support. When TV announcers describe this, they call it “eight in the box, ” and it means the defense is susceptible to the other bread-and-butter play of the I-formation: the play-action pass.
When the offense sees the strong safety playing run, it becomes clear that it’s time to run the play action. The linemen and fullback have the same blocking responsibilities and try to make it look like a running play. The quarterback fakes a handoff to the running back, but instead of giving up the ball he goes into his seven-step drop. With the strong safety playing run support, the cornerback has no help in coverage on the flanker, who becomes the primary receiver on the play.
Let’s talk a little more about the fullback, who usually lines up about four yards behind the quarterback, with the running back usually about three yards further behind. At seven yards behind the line of scrimmage, the running back can easily survey the field to see where the defensive players are lining up, and he can get a full head of steam so that he’s at full speed when he hits the line of scrimmage. The running back also has time to watch blocks develop and can find cutback lanes.
The flipside, of course, is that a handoff to the running back in the I takes longer to develop than a handoff to the fullback, and that gives the defense more time to react. That’s why in the early days of the I-formation, the fullback regularly carried the ball, especially in short-yardage situations. Today, however, football is a much more specialized game, and I-formation fullbacks are blockers almost exclusively and rarely carry the ball.
bron: www.footballoutsiders.com
Even wat lichter "nieuws"
Tja het hoort er blijkbaar bij, bij beroemd zijn..quote:Quarterback sneak
Man impersonates Big Ben, St. Pierre to get dates
PITTSBURGH (AP) -- Police have flagged a man for an illegal quarterback sneak.
Authorities said Brian Jackson, 31, dated two women by pretending to be Pittsburgh Steelers quarterbacks Ben Roethlisberger and Brian St. Pierre.
Jackson, arrested Friday, was charged with harassment for allegedly continuing to contact both women after they learned of the ruses. He was also charged with criminal mischief for allegedly ruining a Steelers jersey owned by one of the women's neighbors when he signed his worthless rendition of Roethlisberger's autograph on it. The jersey was worth $75 before it was signed, police said.
Jackson and his attorney, Paul Boas, declined comment after he was arraigned in Pittsburgh City Court and released on an unsecured bond Friday. Boas again declined comment when reached at his office. Jackson faces a preliminary hearing July 25.
The team didn't immediately return a call seeking comment.
In one of the scams, Jackson arrived at the woman's home on July 6, gave her an autographed football and pretended to be Roethlisberger, signing the neighbor's jersey, authorities said.
When she got home from their date that night, the neighbor brought her a newspaper article and told her that the man wasn't Roethlisberger.
Allegheny County police said Jackson pretended to be St. Pierre, the third-string quarterback, when he met a woman last September. She told police that during the three weeks they were in contact, Jackson often talked of his "teammates" and offered to autograph footballs for neighborhood kids. Jackson also told the woman to watch Steelers games so she could see him when he went into the game, police said.
When the woman did watch a Steelers game, she saw the real Brian St. Pierre on the screen and realized that Jackson was an impostor, police said. Jackson tried to explain to the woman that he looked "different" on TV, but she asked him not to contact her, police said.
Met een verbeten grimas en een verborgen glimlach.
Ik ga maar eens UPC Digital aanschaffen, NASN kan je als het goed is NFL wedstrijden mee zien, nog ff uitzoeken.
Best wel triest dit soort dingen...quote:Op zondag 17 juli 2005 13:04 schreef Guard het volgende:
Even wat lichter "nieuws"
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Tja het hoort er blijkbaar bij, bij beroemd zijn..
Nog lulliger voor die jersey die ze had... staat nu gewoon een baggerhandtekening op... oftewel: een vlek...
quote:Op zondag 17 juli 2005 13:43 schreef truSteh het volgende:
Ik ga maar eens UPC Digital aanschaffen, NASN kan je als het goed is NFL wedstrijden mee zien, nog ff uitzoeken.
Volgens mij kun je geen games zien, misschien wat highlights. Maar ja das beter als niets natuurlijk...quote:The low-down on NASN's NFL coverage
NASN shows daily coverage of the NFL including live NFL Countdown and NFL Primetime, NFL Match-Up, ESPN’s daily magazine show, NFL Live, as well as a host of NFL Films programming. NASN additionally broadcast live coverage of the NFL Draft and a host of Preseason Games.
Met een verbeten grimas en een verborgen glimlach.
Ik heb begrepen dat 't ongeveer als C+ en NBA werkt: een paar games per week.quote:Op zondag 17 juli 2005 14:26 schreef Guard het volgende:
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Volgens mij kun je geen games zien, misschien wat highlights. Maar ja das beter als niets natuurlijk...
Maar ik kan het mis hebben.
Patience is not one of my virtues, neither is memory. Or patience for that matter.
Als ik interpreteer wat er op de website van NASN staat krijg je alleen wat pre-season games te zien, maar ik kan het ook fout hebben.....quote:Op zondag 17 juli 2005 14:32 schreef popolon het volgende:
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Ik heb begrepen dat 't ongeveer als C+ en NBA werkt: een paar games per week.
Maar ik kan het mis hebben.
En het is overigens ook niet overal in UPC dekkingsgebeid beschikbaar, dus even goed informeren bij UPC (dat betekent doorvragen dus, want bij UPC zeggen ze nogal eens zomaar wat)
Met een verbeten grimas en een verborgen glimlach.
Zou ook kunnen, ik hoorde het van een vriend van me, vandaar.quote:Op zondag 17 juli 2005 14:35 schreef Guard het volgende:
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Als ik interpreteer wat er op de website van NASN staat krijg je alleen wat pre-season games te zien, maar ik kan het ook fout hebben.....
En het is overigens ook niet overal in UPC dekkingsgebeid beschikbaar, dus even goed informeren bij UPC (dat betekent doorvragen dus, want bij UPC zeggen ze nogal eens zomaar wat)
Ik heb in dat geval een luxeprobleem.
Patience is not one of my virtues, neither is memory. Or patience for that matter.
Tja ik heb een probleem, moet mijn dosis AF verkrijgen via Torrents, streams en dvd's van Pontel (en dat laatste is niet goedkoop), en af en toe een zondagmiddaggame in de Ierse pub kijken.quote:Op zondag 17 juli 2005 14:38 schreef popolon het volgende:
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Zou ook kunnen, ik hoorde het van een vriend van me, vandaar.
Ik heb in dat geval een luxeprobleem.
Kan geen schotel ophangen, geen (fatsoenlijke) american sportszender in het kabelpakket hier.
Denk dat ik wel Pontel ga gebruiken voor College football (in mijn optiek het mooiste AF).
Met een verbeten grimas en een verborgen glimlach.
Ik heb het eerlijk gezegd nooit gevolgd toen ik in Nederland woonde, mede door de problemen die je net noemt.
In vakanties wel wedstrijden gezien hier op tv en zeker een sport die ik goed ga volgen, i like it.
Dus val me niet aan als ik dingen nog niet helemaal begrijp, ben een NFL rookie kijker.
In vakanties wel wedstrijden gezien hier op tv en zeker een sport die ik goed ga volgen, i like it.
Dus val me niet aan als ik dingen nog niet helemaal begrijp, ben een NFL rookie kijker.
Patience is not one of my virtues, neither is memory. Or patience for that matter.
Daar ben je snel genoeg vanaf, tot vorig jaar wist ik ook niet heel veel, maar had de de kans om iedere week twee wedstrijden te zien en dan leer je heel snel heel veel.quote:Op zondag 17 juli 2005 14:50 schreef popolon het volgende:
Ik heb het eerlijk gezegd nooit gevolgd toen ik in Nederland woonde, mede door de problemen die je net noemt.
In vakanties wel wedstrijden gezien hier op tv en zeker een sport die ik goed ga volgen, i like it.
Dus val me niet aan als ik dingen nog niet helemaal begrijp, ben een NFL rookie kijker.
Met een verbeten grimas en een verborgen glimlach.
En een vrouw en familie die NFL gek zijn helpt ook.quote:Op zondag 17 juli 2005 14:57 schreef Guard het volgende:
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Daar ben je snel genoeg vanaf, tot vorig jaar wist ik ook niet heel veel, maar had de de kans om iedere week twee wedstrijden te zien en dan leer je heel snel heel veel.
Eén ding heb ik al meegekregen: Dallas is fout.
Patience is not one of my virtues, neither is memory. Or patience for that matter.
Tja dat is subjectief natuurlijk (maar ik ben het wel met je eens )quote:Op zondag 17 juli 2005 14:59 schreef popolon het volgende:
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En een vrouw en familie die NFL gek zijn helpt ook.
Eén ding heb ik al meegekregen: Dallas is fout.
Waar woon je eigenlijk in de states?
Met een verbeten grimas en een verborgen glimlach.
Zie profiel.quote:Op zondag 17 juli 2005 15:02 schreef Guard het volgende:
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Tja dat is subjectief natuurlijk (maar ik ben het wel met je eens )
Waar woon je eigenlijk in de states?
Maar ja, Detroit is niet al te best dus ....
Patience is not one of my virtues, neither is memory. Or patience for that matter.
Nou ja als Harrington nu eens gebruik ging maken van die goeie recievers die er rondlopen, kan het nog spectaculair worden in Ford Field.quote:Op zondag 17 juli 2005 15:05 schreef popolon het volgende:
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Zie profiel.
Maar ja, Detroit is niet al te best dus ....
En natuurlijk Super Bowl XL in Detroit.
En niet te vergeten Michigan en Michigan State als toch zeer behoorlijke college footballteams.
Jij hebt het zo slecht nog niet hoor
Met een verbeten grimas en een verborgen glimlach.
Weet ikquote:Op zondag 17 juli 2005 15:11 schreef Guard het volgende:
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Nou ja als Harrington nu eens gebruik ging maken van die goeie recievers die er rondlopen, kan het nog spectaculair worden in Ford Field.
En natuurlijk Super Bowl XL in Detroit.
En niet te vergeten Michigan en Michigan State als toch zeer behoorlijke college footballteams.
Jij hebt het zo slecht nog niet hoor
Moet ook nog eens naar Michigan Stadium, schijnt behoorlijk indrukwekkend te zijn.
Bijna 110.000 plaatsen.
Patience is not one of my virtues, neither is memory. Or patience for that matter.
Daar wil ik ook nog eens naartoe.
Misschien in 2006, dan zit er weer in trip in de planning naar de States, maar dan wordt het waarschijnlijk Gainesville, Florida.
Maar das ook mooi, een wedstrijd in "the swamp"
Misschien in 2006, dan zit er weer in trip in de planning naar de States, maar dan wordt het waarschijnlijk Gainesville, Florida.
Maar das ook mooi, een wedstrijd in "the swamp"
Met een verbeten grimas en een verborgen glimlach.
meer zelfs:quote:
quote:2004 College Football Attendance
School (Avg. Home Attendance)
1. Michigan 111,025
2. Tennessee 106,644
3. Ohio State 104,876
4. Penn State 103,111
5. Georgia 92,746
6. LSU 91,209
7. Florida 88,409
Met een verbeten grimas en een verborgen glimlach.
Oh shit
Heb ik die gegevens van een wat oudere niet zo up to date site.
Florida is ook mooi natuurlijk, pik wel een tijd uit dat er geen Dennis of Andrew langskomt.
Heb ik die gegevens van een wat oudere niet zo up to date site.
Florida is ook mooi natuurlijk, pik wel een tijd uit dat er geen Dennis of Andrew langskomt.
Patience is not one of my virtues, neither is memory. Or patience for that matter.
Das ook een ervaring natuurlijk......quote:Op zondag 17 juli 2005 15:24 schreef popolon het volgende:
Oh shit
Heb ik die gegevens van een wat oudere niet zo up to date site.
Florida is ook mooi natuurlijk, pik wel een tijd uit dat er geen Dennis of Andrew langskomt.
Maar ja als ik ga is het natuurlijk wel during Football season.
Met een verbeten grimas en een verborgen glimlach.
Volgens mij was het probleem van Detroit die geblesseerde receivers. 2x een toppick in de draft en 2x een jaar uitgeschakeld. Als Rogers (?) en Roy Williams fit zijn kan het nog een mooi jaar worden in Detroit. Die hebben trouwens ook een heel mooi stadion
De zwemmer zwemt, hij zwemt in zee
