Och, de gebruikelijke anti-VS gevoelens komen natuurlijk weer om de hoek kijken, 't kan nog wel even doorgaan.quote:Op woensdag 6 juli 2005 20:56 schreef Loedertje het volgende:
Dat er behoefte is aan een deeltje 5 verbaast mij
Zelfs een verdwenen kind in Nederland krijgt niet zoveel aandacht als dit verwende nest.
je bent al overtuigd van de schuld van Joran en z'n homies? Elke vorm van kritiek wordt uitgelegd als anti-VS gevoelens?quote:Op woensdag 6 juli 2005 23:16 schreef popolon het volgende:
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Och, de gebruikelijke anti-VS gevoelens komen natuurlijk weer om de hoek kijken, 't kan nog wel even doorgaan.
Waar zeg ik datquote:Op woensdag 6 juli 2005 23:34 schreef SocialDisorder het volgende:
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je bent al overtuigd van de schuld van Joran en z'n homies? Elke vorm van kritiek wordt uitgelegd als anti-VS gevoelens?
quote:Op woensdag 6 juli 2005 19:34 schreef HarigeKerel het volgende:
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Haar suf neuken in een Bordeel in Caracas en dan haar ouders de video sturen, om vervolgens de 150K te ontvangen![]()
Zo zo, fatastic allemaal weer.quote:Op donderdag 7 juli 2005 00:55 schreef Cosma-Shiva het volgende:
op de nacht van haar verdwijning, 12 uur, iemand naar Natalee's vader in Mississipi heeft gebeld en heeft gezegd dat Natalee was gekidnapped. deze persoon heeft ook de namen van de drie verdachten genoemd, FBI schijnt telefoontje te bevestigen
Mja, als ze daar nu pas mee komen zijn ze gewoon debiel - ik denk het niet.quote:Op donderdag 7 juli 2005 00:55 schreef Cosma-Shiva het volgende:
Moeder van Natalee was net live op tv in de US.
Ze zegt dat op de nacht van haar verdwijning, 12 uur, iemand naar Natalee's vader in Mississipi heeft gebeld en heeft gezegd dat Natalee was gekidnapped. deze persoon heeft ook de namen van de drie verdachten genoemd, FBI schijnt telefoontje te bevestigen
Welke 3 verdachten? Joran en de twee Kalpoes? Wat vreemd dat ze laatstgenoemden dan laten lopen.quote:Op donderdag 7 juli 2005 00:55 schreef Cosma-Shiva het volgende:
Moeder van Natalee was net live op tv in de US.
Ze zegt dat op de nacht van haar verdwijning, 12 uur, iemand naar Natalee's vader in Mississipi heeft gebeld en heeft gezegd dat Natalee was gekidnapped. deze persoon heeft ook de namen van de drie verdachten genoemd, FBI schijnt telefoontje te bevestigen
Idd, er klopt niks van, mevrouw Holloway is een beetje in de war, er schijnt niets te kloppen van het verhaal.quote:
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/quote:Letter From Paul Reynolds
Natalee Holloway's Uncle, Paul Reynolds penned a letter to the Editor and sent it to Amigoe, Aruba AM and Aruba Today. He was on MSNBC's Scarborough Country Tuesday night to discuss the letter and related topics.
Below is the unedited text of the letter.
Letter to the Editor
I have been reading Aruba AM, the English Aruban newspaper sent out over the internet. There appears to be a growing backlash against the Holloway family that I am very concerned about. I am sure the people in Aruba wish this investigation could be resolved as much as our family does.
The people in Aruba have been overwhelming supportive of our entire family since Natalie's disappearance. When I arrived on the Island two days after she was reported missing, I was always greeted with expressions of concern and hope for Natalie's return. There are hundreds if not thousands of stories of people coming together and helping each other during this incident. Bernadett from Economy Car Rental, the people at Holiday Inn, the Aruban Government Workers who left work to search the island are just a few of the examples. This is the good story of Aruba . The compassion and desire to help has meant more than you can imagine to our family.
Unfortunately, there are a very small number of individuals that are holding the people of Aruba , the Holloway family and what seems like the whole world hostage. These individuals are not a reflection of the Aruban people or the system of Justice in Aruba . These individuals know what happened and are refusing to accept responsibility for their actions. It also appears that certain individuals may be attempting to protect those individuals that know what happened. Helping them hide from their responsibility will destroy rather than preserve what is left of their lives, hopes and dreams.
The concerns that we have about the investigation are real. It began with the 10 day delay with taking the three original suspects into custody. My sister, Beth and her husband, Jug, arrived on the island the same day Natalie was reported missing. They were able to identify the three individuals she had last been seen with and report this to the police. The three suspects were briefly questioned and released. Their stories turned out to be false and their allegations led to the detainment of two innocent individuals. In a missing person case, every day is critical. Ten days would allow those individuals responsible time to hide evidence and coordinate their stories. What if the missing person was alive in those first few days? The failure to take those individuals into custody and seek evidence may have damaged this investigation beyond repair. Why was this done? Was it an attempt to cover up whatever happened and or protect those individuals involved?
Because the father of one of the suspects is a member of the Judicial system, there was immediate concern on behalf of the family that the investigation might not be fair and objective. The interest and presence of the FBI along with assurances from the US Government and the Prime Minister of Aruba reduced those concerns.
Actions since then have again increased concerns that the investigation is not being done in an objective manner. Why would you refuse assistance from the FBI in resolving a difficult case? Why would you hinder a private search team, composed of a group of volunteers whose director has experienced a similar loss of his own?
The release of two of the suspects is also a matter of concern. Although the latest (third) story of one of the suspects places him alone with Natalie on the beach, the other two have admitted to lying. Is this not obstruction of justice, interfering with an investigation or conspiracy to cover up a crime? Aren't these illegal activities whether or not you are involved in the actual crime itself? How can these individuals be allowed to go free and possibly leave the country? Why would they lie unless they had knowledge of a crime either before or after the fact? Why would the father of one of the suspects tell all three that without a body, there is no crime?
As you can see, our many questions and concerns are about the investigation, not the Island or the people of Aruba . They are as much a victim of these individuals as we are. Please join us in our request to the Prime Minister of Aruba and the Dutch Authorities to launch an independent investigation of this matter and allow all of us to learn the truth, return Natalie to her home and go forward with our lives.
Respectfully yours,
Paul Reynolds
Natalie Holloway's Uncle
in case u didn't notice: Aruba is in zekere zin een onderdeel van Nederland.quote:Op woensdag 6 juli 2005 20:56 schreef Loedertje het volgende:
Dat er behoefte is aan een deeltje 5 verbaast mij
Zelfs een verdwenen kind in Nederland krijgt niet zoveel aandacht als dit verwende nest.
Ja, maar zijn punt is waarschijnlijk dat de hoeveelheid aandacht die dat mokkel überhaupt krijgt is belachelijk veel.quote:Op donderdag 7 juli 2005 09:13 schreef halion het volgende:
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in case u didn't notice: Aruba is in zekere zin een onderdeel van Nederland.
Dat beweer je nu al een paar keer, er zijn toch echt gevallen bekend waar de haaien buiten het bijten ook gegeten hebben. Vooral tijgerhaaien doen dat. Ook australische witte haaien doen het, witte haaien in andere delen van de wereld niet.quote:
Wedden dat deze jandoedel een boek gaat schrijven als alles achter de rug is?quote:Paul Reynolds
Natalie Holloway's Uncle
quote:Op donderdag 7 juli 2005 11:16 schreef niet_links het volgende:
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Dat beweer je nu al een paar keer, er zijn toch echt gevallen bekend waar de haaien buiten het bijten ook gegeten hebben. Vooral tijgerhaaien doen dat. Ook australische witte haaien doen het, witte haaien in andere delen van de wereld niet.
Haaien hebben dus wel mensen gegeten, bij HOGE uitzondering, zoals ik al zei. De kans dat Holloway aan de haaien gevoerd is, is dus HEEL erg klein. Je moet dan een haaiensoort hebben die mensenvlees überhaupt eet, die nog eens maandenlang niet voeren, en dan is het een mogelijke theorie.....quote:Sharks rarely 'eat' humans, but they do occasionally 'attack' them. 'eating' - there are only four species (out of some 400) sharks that eat people. Great White - attacks people having mistaken them for their normal prey of seals. Usually spit the victim back out again, but very occasionally the shark has entirely consumed the person and we think this only happens when the shark is really very hungry. Humans do not contain the sort of fat that a Great White needs to keep going, and which seals and dolphins contain. Tiger Shark - this species is a true opportunist, eating a variety of different sea creatures. Because it is so much less choosy than other sharks they do occasionally attack and eat people. But, given that the Tiger Shark is very common in all tropical oceans, even for this diverse hunter, attacks are extremely rare. Blue Shark - this shark is very common in the open ocean, but does also migrate close to shore. Close to shore there is plenty to eat so Blues do not attack people. In the open ocean food can be hard to find. During WWII Blue Sharks did scavenge or attack victims of ditched aircraft and sunk ships. These days it is highly unlikely that anyone will be floundering in the open ocean for long. Blue Sharks are not very aggressive and will respect a healthy human diver that is in the water with them. Oceanic White-tip Shark - this is a big shark that only lives in the deep ocean. It is very aggressive and will consider anything that it swims across as a meal because it does not know when it will find its next prey. So, a human bobbing around in the middle of the ocean will be on the menu of this species. Divers who have photographed them say that they are very curious and unafraid and will in a matter of minutes start approaching too close for comfort. This shark is probably the only 'true' man eater, but fortunately it typically lives far away from any human population. Like other shark species, if it ever ventures close to shore the increased presence of other prey items means they are much less inclined to attack humans while there. 'attacks' Of about 400 species only 10 have be known to attack humans. These sharks have attacked for one of two reasons: provoked, and unprovoked. Provoked attacks include those who were trying to catch the shark - so fishermen, anglers and spear fishermen; also snorkellers and divers grabbing shark's fins, or feeding sharks and not be cautious of the shark's behaviour under such conditions. Unprovoked attacks are the result normally of mistaken identity - appearing to be the shark's normal food. Such attacks usually involve only one or two bites and the person is released and survives. Any situation that reduces the shark's ability to know what you are contributes to such attack, especially if swimming where sharks feed. So, surfing in seal colony is not a good idea. Swimming at night or in murky water also stacks the odds against you. Obtaining local knowledge will often help to decide whether you are bathing where sharks feed and may take a bite at you thinking you are a fish. There are only 10 fatal shark attacks a year for the whole planet - a tiny amount, of about 100 attacks over-all. Ocean currents and waves drown far more people, and should be of much greater concern to bathers.
http://www.national-aquarium.co.uk/databases/FAQsLibrary/index.asp?FAQCategoryID=&FAQID=740&SearchText=#question740
Zwaar onder vuur door wat? Ik heb je nog geen argument zien geven voor het tegendeel. De sensoren die je aandraagt reageren op bloed, trillingen in het water en electrische pulsjes van het hart, alledrie indicatoren van een gewond dier. Z'n ogen worden amper gebruikt bij de jacht.quote:Op donderdag 7 juli 2005 13:19 schreef niet_links het volgende:
IK he het niet over holloway, ik heb het over haaien in het algemeen. Er zijn genoeg gevallen bekend waar haaien wel mensen consumeren. Ook een reden dat ze ze niet consumeren is omdat er vaak andere mensen in de buurt zijn die de slachtoffers helpen. Je theorie is erg omstreden dat ze ze amper eten. Het komt voor alleen niet vaak maar niet door de redenen die jij aanvoerd. En ja we praten hier over de 4 soorten. Ik houd er gewoon niet van van die mensen die doen alsof haaien lammetjes zijn. Die mistaken identity theorie is ook bull.
Haai kan een druppel bloed op tig km af volgen. Kan met zen sensoren electrische pulsjes voelen en hebben redelijke ogen voor onderwater het is een super roofdier. Die maken niet zulke fouten. De theorie die je opvoert ligt zwaar onder vuur
Dat is al een stuk meer als 3 per 3 jaar ofzo. En dit zijn dan recorded.. Dus niet de mensen in india en afrika enz waar geen pers is. Of de lost on sea cases.quote:Seven fatalities occurred in 2004, a total similar to the four in 2003, three in 2002 and four in 2001, but lower than the 11 fatalities recorded in 2000. Two fatalities occurred in Australia and single deaths were reported from Brazil, California, Egypt, Hawaii, and South Africa. The number of serious attacks in 2000-2004, as measured by fatality rate (8.9%), has been lower than that of the decade of the 1990's (12.7%), continuing a century-long trend reflective of advances in beach safety practices and medical treatment, and increased public awareness of avoiding potentially dangerous situations.
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