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Op donderdag 30 januari 2003 19:19 schreef Smots het volgende:
Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey, een oud topic van één van mijn all time favorite Fokkertjes!
Da's leuk!

Doettan op zijn minst ff wat on-topics en nuttigs erbij zeggen.
Oi!
Op maandag 5 april 2004 21:27 schreef Lorax het volgende:
Ik had die kop van SC wel willen zien toen MUUS 'm in z'n bek scheet
  vrijdag 31 januari 2003 @ 11:11:35 #127
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Op dinsdag 28 januari 2003 19:46 schreef dr.Tesla het volgende:
Want de hele tijd met teksten aankomen, van een zogenaamde vrijmetselaar met hoge graden, wordt ook een beetje vermoeiend.
Dat lijken me anders zeer relevante bronnen Wat voor bronnen stel jij dan voor?
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Question: "what makes you a Freemason ? Answer: My obligation."
[question and answer from the Entered Apprentice/First Degree]

".. binding myself under no less penalty that of having throat cut from ear to ear, my tongue torn out by its roots, and my body buried in the rough sands of the sea, a cable length from the shore where the tide.."
[ from the oath of obligation Entered Apprentice/First Degree ]

".. binding myself under no less penalty than having my left Breast torn open, my heart plucked out, and given to the beasts of the field and fowls of the air as prey."
[from the oath of obligation , Fellowcraft/Second Degree]

".. binding myself under no less penalty that of having my body severed in twain, my bowels taken out and burned to ashes, the ashes scattered to the four winds of heaven.."
[ from the oath of obligation, Master Mason / Third Degree ]

" .. in willful violation whereof may I incur the fearful penalty of having my eyeballs pierced to thru center with a three edged blade, my feet flayed and forced to walk the hot sands upon the sterile shores of the red sea until the flaming Sun shall strike with a livid plague, and my Allah the god of Arab, Moslem and Mohammedan, the god of our fathers, support me to the entire fulfillment of the same."
[ from the oath of obligation, Ancient Arabic Order of the Nobles of the Mystic Shrine ] ("Shriners")

"You must conceal all the crimes of your brother Masons... and should you be summoned as a witness against a brother Mason be always sure to shield him.. It may be perjury to do this, it is true, but your keeping your obligations."
[ Ronayne, "Handbook of Masonry" p. 183 ]

"We shall unleash the Nihilists and atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirit will from that moment be without a compass (direction), anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the pure light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view, a manifestation which will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time."
-Albert Pike, on a plan for world conquest, written in a letter to Mazzini dated August 15, 1871.

"..Thirty-third degree Freemason Albert Pike (1809-1891), the man destined to develop the Luciferian Doctrine for the Masonic hierarchy, could not accept the Lucifer and Satan were the same personality. While teaching his beliefs to a select few in the Supreme Council, Pike became the most powerful Mason in the world. Although an obscure general in the Confederate Army during the American Civil War, he was hardly inconspicuous in Freemasonry. From 1859 until his death in 1891, Pike occupied simultaneously the positions of Grand Master of the Central Directory at Washington, D.C., Grand Commander of the Supreme Council at Charleston, S.C., and Sovereign Pontiff of Universal Freemasonry. He was an honorary member of almost every Supreme Council in the world, personally receiving 130 Masonic degrees. Pike also was one of the most physically and morally repulsive individuals in American history. Weighing well over three hundred pounds, his sexual proclivity was to sit naked astride a phallic throne in the woods, accompanied by a gang of prostitutes. To these orgies he would bring one or more wagon loads of food and liquor, most of which he would consume over a period of two days until he passed into a stupor. In his adopted state of Arkansas, Pike was well known as a practitioner of Satanism, Portraits of his later years show him wearing a symbol of the Baphomet around his neck."
-Scarlet and the Beast, John Daniel, vol 1

"Masonry gives rogues and evil-minded characters an opportunity of visiting upon their devoted victim, all the ills attending combined power, when exerted to accomplish destruction. It works unseen, at all silent hours, and secret times and places; and, like death when summoning his diseases, pounces upon its devoted subject, and lays him prostrate in the dust. Like the great enemy of man, it has shown its cloven foot, and put the public upon its guard against its secret machinations."
-CAPT. WM. MORGAN'S ILLUSTRATIONS OF MASONRY, 1827.

"Membership of secret societies such as freemasonry can raise suspicions of a lack of impartiality or objectivity. It is therefore important the public know the facts. I think it is the case that the freemasons said they are not a secret society but a society with secrets. I think it is widely accepted that one secret they should not be keeping is who their members are in the criminal justice system."
- Home Secretary Jack Straw, 1997 Home Affairs Committee England

"It is generally agreed that the biggest single influence in the modern expansion of ritual magic, and the occult explosion in general, in the Western world, was the Golden Dawn. This magical fraternity, founded by Freemasons at the end of the 19th century, developed a complex ritual system with ten degrees of initiation relating to the Cabalistic Sephiroth." (World renown witches, Janet and Stewart Farrar, authors of A Witches Bible Compleat)
- Janet and Stewart Farrar, The Life and Times of A Modern Witch, Phoenix Publishing Company, p. 121.

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Morals and Dogma

One of the major sourcebooks of Masonic doctrine is Morals and Dogma of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Masonry, written in 1871 by Albert Pike, and is considered to be the

"Mason's guide for daily living In it Masonry is a search after Light..."
In Morals and Dogma, Pike wrote:

"Every Masonic lodge is a temple of religion; and its teachings are instruction in religion... Masonry, like all religions, all the Mysteries, Hermeticism and Alchemy, conceals its secrets from all except the Adepts and Sages, or the Elect, and uses false explanations and misinterpretations of its symbols to mislead...to conceal the Truth, which it calls Light, from them, and to draw them away from it... The truth must be kept secret, and the masses need a teaching proportioned to their imperfect reason every man's conception of God must be proportioned to his mental cultivation, and intellectual powers, and moral excellence. God is, as man conceives him, the reflected image of man himself."
The next statement reduces the Masonic philosophy to a single premise. Pike writes:

"The true name of Satan, the Kabalists say, is that of Yahveh reversed; for Satan is not a black god... Lucifer, the Light Bearer! Strange and mysterious name to give to the Spirit of Darkness! Lucifer, the Son of the Morning! Is it he who bears the Light...Doubt it not!"
Albert Pike explained in Morals & Dogma how the true nature of Freemasonry is kept a secret from Masons of lower degrees:

"The Blue Degrees are but the outer court or portico of the Temple. Part of the symbols are displayed there to the Initiate, but he is intentionally misled by false interpretations. It is not intended that he shall understand them; but it is intended that he shall imagine he understands them. Their true explication is reserved for the Adepts, the Princes of Masonry... It is well enough for the mass of those called Masons, to imagine that all is contained in the Blue Degrees; and whoso attempts to undeceive them will labor in vain."

One World Order
In 1859, Albert Pike, who was fascinated with the idea of a one-world government, was chosen to coordinate Illuminati activities in the United States. He said they needed to create a political party that would keep the world fighting, until they could bring peace. Pike said it would be done

"with tongue and pen, with all our open and secret influences, with the purse, and if need be, with the sword..."
In a letter dated January 22, 1870, Mazzini wrote to Pike, alluding to Pike's New and Reformed Palladian Rite:

"We must allow all of the federations to continue just as they are, with their systems, their central authorities and diverse modes of correspondence between high grades of the same rite, organized as they are at present, but we must create a super rite, which will remain unknown, to which we will call those Masons of high degree whom we shall select. With regard to our brothers in Masonry, these men must be pledged to the strictest secrecy. Through this supreme rite, we will govern all Freemasonry which will become the one International Center, the more powerful because its direction will be unknown."

Three World Wars
As do most occultists, Albert Pike had a "spirit guide," who dispensed "Divine Wisdom" and enlightened him regarding how to achieve the New World Order. A "spirit guide" is a "being" who meets someone who has given themselves over to the practice of the occult; however, people who are practitioners of the New Age Religion do not view this as a bad thing. In fact, they would strongly argue that they are filled with happiness and joy by interacting with their "spirit guides," not realizing that they have been temporarily deceived by Satan who, along with his demons, can appear as an Angel of Light in order to deceive:

"And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness ..." (2 Corinthians 11:14-15).
One message that Albert Pike received from his "spirit guide," and which in reality we know to be a demonic vision, he described in a letter that he wrote to Mazzini, dated August 15, 1871. This letter graphically outlined plans for three world wars that were seen as necessary to bring about the One World Order, and we can marvel at how accurately it has predicted events that have already taken place. This is not because the devil has powers of prophecy, but because his agents have undertaken to manipulate political events to closely follow his designs. For a short time, this letter was on display in the British Museum Library in London, and it was copied by William Guy Carr, former Intelligence Officer in the Royal Canadian Navy.

"The First World War must be brought about in order to permit the Illuminati to overthrow the power of the Czars in Russia and of making that country a fortress of atheistic Communism. The divergences caused by the "agentur" (agents) of the Illuminati between the British and Germanic Empires will be used to foment this war. At the end of the war, Communism will be built and used in order to destroy the other governments and in order to weaken the religions."
Students of history will recognize that the political alliances of England on one side and Germany on the other, forged between 1871 and 1898 by Otto von Bismarck, co-conspirator of Albert Pike, were instrumental in bringing about the First World War. In 1917, at Fatima, before the end of this First World War and before the Bolshevik Revolution in Russia, the Blessed Virgin Mary predicted the rise of Russia as a major power that would be used as a scourge by God to punish an apostate world.

"The Second World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences between the Fascists and the political Zionists. This war must be brought about so that Nazism is destroyed and that the political Zionism be strong enough to institute a sovereign state of Israel in Palestine. During the Second World War, International Communism must become strong enough in order to balance Christendom, which would be then restrained and held in check until the time when we would need it for the final social cataclysm."
In 1917, at Fatima, the Blessed Virgin Mary predicted the end of the First World War, and the coming of the Second. After this Second World War, Communism was made strong enough to begin taking over weaker governments. In 1945, at the Potsdam Conference between Truman, Churchill, and Stalin, a large portion of Europe was simply handed over to Russia, and on the other side of the world, the aftermath of the war with Japan helped to sweep the tide of Communism into China.

"The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustionWe shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time."
Since the terrorist attacks of Sept 11, 2001, world events in the Middle East show a growing unrest and instability between Jews and Arabs. This is completely in line with the call for a Third World War to be fought between the two, and their allies on both sides. This Third World War is still to come, and recent events show us that it is not far off.

The Real Force Behind Freemasonry
On July 14, 1889, two years before his death, Pike issued the following statement to the 24 Supreme Masonic Councils of the world who were meeting in Paris:

"That which we must say to the crowd is: 'We worship a God, but it is the God one adores without superstition.' "
"To you, Sovereign Grand Inspectors General (33rd Degree Masons), we say this, that you may repeat it to the Brethren of the 32nd, 31st, and 30th degrees: 'The Masonic religion should be, by all of us initiates of the high degrees, maintained in the purity of the Luciferian doctrine.' "

"If Lucifer were not God (or "Adonai," the Hebrew word for "Lord" which refers to Yahweh, the God of Israel, whose name they avoided using) whose deeds prove his cruelty, perfidy, and hatred of man, barbarism and repulsion for science, would Adonay and his priests calumniate him? Yes, Lucifer is God, and unfortunately Adonay is also God. For the eternal law is that there is no light without shade, no beauty without ugliness, no white without black, for the absolute can only exist as two Gods: darkness being necessary to light to serve as its foil as the pedestal is necessary to the statue, and the brake to the locomotive..."

"...Thus, the doctrine of Satanism is a heresy; and the true and pure philosophic religion is the belief in Lucifer, the equal of Adonay; but Lucifer, God of Light and God of Good, is struggling for humanity against Adonay, the God of darkness and evil."


"Only I can Help You"
The Blessed Virgin May, in her appearances at Fatima in 1917, predicted the rise of Russia, and with it Communism, as a scourge of God's punishment on the world. But she also gave the world a ray of hope, asking for penance, prayer, and the consecration of Russia to her Immaculate Heart. She stressed that the troubles that would befall the human race would be so severe, that no human solution would be possible. As she said: "Only I can help you." We can do our part by wearing the brown scapular, praying the Rosary every day both for our own intentions, and that the Pope will finally consecrate Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary in union with the bishops of the world, just as Our Lady of Fatima requested. When this consecration is finally done, Our Lady promised us that there would be peace. We know that this consecration has not been done because we can see that world events are now being manipulated in preparation for the Third World War, as outlined in the satanic plans of Albert Pike, as a necessary step to establish the New World Order.

Sources
1. FINAL WARNING: A HISTORY OF THE NEW WORLD ORDER CHAPTER ONE THE ILLUMINATI
http://www.google.ca/search?q=cache:Rc29RJMafkgC:carbonflux.org/911/History%2520of%2520Illuminati.pdf+albert+pike+mazzini&hl=en

2. Guerre: Islam Découverte (War: Islam Uncovered)
http://www.le-carrefour-de-lislam.com/Lucifer/Luciferien.htm

3. THE INCREDIBLE SATANIC VISION - Christian Updates - New World Order.
http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1015.html

4. New World Order 2002?
http://www.tribulationalinstitute.com/Powerpoint/New%20World%20Order%202002.htm

5. Conspiracy and the Choice of Ideologies
http://www.gold-eagle.com/gold_digest_99/kutyn021699.html

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33rd Degree Initiation

Excerpt from Jim Shaw's book:
The Deadly Deception


THE HIGHEST MASONIC DEGREE
Easter was approaching and one quiet morning I was at home recuperating from the second operation when the doorbell rang. It was a special delivery letter from the Supreme Council in Washington, notifying me that I had been selected for the 33rd Degree.

I could hardly believe it was true! This honor is one most Masons never even think of receiving. It was too much, too far out of reach, beyond limits of reality. It was unreal to think I had actually been selected. It was an honor just to be considered for this ultimate degree and I had actually been selected, chosen by that small and powerful group, the Supreme Council of the 33rd Degree.

I called Bonnie to share the good news with her. In talking with her, I surprised myself by asking her if she thought I should accept it

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"What a strange thing to ask her," I thought. But before I could contemplate it she said, "Why, sure you should accept it. You have worked so hard for so long to get there - by all means you should accept it."

So I returned my acceptance immediately and began making plans for the trip.

I MADE IT ON MY OWN
With plenty of time to reflect, I thought about my long climb up the mounatin of Masonry in search of light. I thought about the odds against anyone's ever making it to the 33rd Degree. I realized that in my case the odds have been even greater. I had made it by hard work and dedication alone. Some men have an edge on selection because of their wealth, political power or prominence. I had none of these.

Like the day I had carried the man all the way to the top of "Shaw Hill" between Camp Butner and Raleigh, I had made it to the top of the Masonic mountain because I was willing to make the effort required and refused to quit. Thinking of this, I felt particulary good about it and wished my mother could know.

I had come a long way since leaving the front gate that terrible day so many years ago. I had come the distance with no help from Uncle Irvin. Who would have thought that the lonely walk, begun so many years ago by that frightened 13-year-old boy, would have led to this point? I had reached the pinnacle - made it all the way to the top.

Some of the most prominent and influental men in the world would undoubtedly be there to participate when I was given this ultimate degree - for me - little Jimmy Shaw, who had gone to work at age five and made it alone since age 13. They would be there to give the 33rd Degree to me. It was really a bit difficult to take it all in.

3 DAYS AT THE MOUNTAIN TOP
In order to receive the 33rd Degree it was necessary to go to Washington. D.C. The initation and related functions were to last three days.

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Since Bonnie could participate in practically none of the things I would be doing each day, she decided not to go along. We were both excited as I made preparations to leave. But I was not as excited as I expected to be. The edge was taken off the excitement because, in me, it was mixed with a considerable amount of conviction. Way down deep there was a growing restlessness, an increasing conflict, produced by the things the doctor had been sharing and by all the Scripture I had been reading. Preparing to receive this "ultimate honor" was not as thrilling as it might otherwise have been.

ARRIVING AT THE HOUSE OF THE TEMPLE
I flew into Washington National Airport and took a taxi to the House of the Temple on Northwest 16th Street. Upon arriving at the Temple I was met by a receptionist who asked if I were there to receive the 33rd Degree. I was surprised to find a women in those sacred Masonic precints, but said that I was and showed her my letter from the Supreme Council. She then told me that in order to receive the degree, I would be expected to make a "minimum donation" of a very large amount of money (at least it was a "very large" amount for me). This took me completely by surprise for there had not been a word about any such "minimum donation" in the letter sent me by the Supreme Council. I didn't carry that much money with me and had left my checkbook at home but was able to borrow the money from one of the other men and gave it to her. We candidates were all unhappy about this unpleasant surprise and grumbled to one another about it, but were not unhappy enough to forsake the degree over it. We were too close to the "top of the mountain" to turn back at that point.

THE TEMPLE ITSELF
The House of the Temple is quite impressive - a bit awesome, really. Standing large, grey and silent on the east side of Northwest 16th Street, between "R" and "S" Streets, it looms very wide and tall from the curb. There is a huge expanse of granite pavement in front of it, including three levels of narrowing steps as the entrance

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is approached. Flanking the entrance are two Sphinx-like granite lions with women's heads, the neck of one entwined by a cobra and decorated with the "ankh" (the Egyptian symbol of life and deity).

Adorning the neck and breast of the other is an image of a women, symbolic of fertility and procreation. In the pavement, just in front of the tall bronze doors, are two Egyptian swords with curved, serpentine blades and, between the two swords, brass letters, set into stone, saying, "The Temple of the Supreme Council of the Thirty-Third and Last Degree of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite."

Over the tall, bronze doors, cut into the stone, is the statement, "Freemasonry Builds Its Temples in the Hearts of Men and Among Nations." (1)

High above the entrance, partially concealed by stone columns, is an elaborate image of the Egyptian sun god, backed with radiating sun and flanked by six large, golden snakes.

Inside is elegance: polished marble, exotic wood, gold and statuary. There are offices, a library, dining room, kitchen, Council Room, "Temple Room" and a large meeting room. This room is like a luxurious theater, rather elegantly furnished and decorated.

The ceiling is dark blue, with lights set into it to give the appearance of stars. These lights can even be made to "twinkle" like stars in the sky. There is a stage, well-equipped, and it is all very nicely done. But the thing that is most noticable is the way the walls are decorated with serpents. There are all kinds; some very long and large. Many of the Scottish Rite degrees include the representation of serpents and I recognized them among those decorating the walls.

It was all most impressive and gave me a strange mixture of the sensations of being in a temple and in a tomb - something sacred but threatning. I saw busts of outstanding men of the Rite including two of Albert Pike, who is buried there in the wall.

INTERVIEWED BY THE SUPREME COUNCIL
The first day was devoted to registration, briefings and interviews. We were called into one of the offices, one at a time, and interviewed by three members of the Supreme Council.

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When my turn came I was ushered into the office and seated. The very first question I was asked was, "Of what religion are you?" Not long before this I would have answered with something like, "I believe the Ancient Mysteries, the 'Old Religion,' and I believe in reincarnation." However, without thinking at all about how to answer, I found myself saying, "I am a Christian."

Then, to my suprise and theirs, I asked them, "Are you men born again?" The man in charge quickly stopped me by saying, "We're not here to talk about that - we are here to ask you questions."

After they sent me back out I sat down and thought about it. When the next man came out, I asked him, "Did they ask you if you are a Christian?" He said, "Yes, they did."

"What did you tell them?" I asked, and he replied, "I told them 'Hell no, and I never intend to be!'"

Then he said a strange thing to me, "They said I'm going higher," and he left through a different door, looking pleased.

BECOMING A SOVEREIGN GRAND INSPECTOR GENERAL
The second day was the day of the actual initiation, held in the theater-like meeting room. Those of us who were receiving the degree were seated and the ceremony was "exemplified" (acted out in full costume) before us, in the same way that we had performed the lesser degrees of the Scottish Rite all those years. The parts in the exemplification were played by men of the 33rd Degree.

The representative candidate was dressed in black trousers, barefooted, bareheaded and draped in a long, black robe that reminded me of a very long, black raincoat. He had a black cabletow around his neck but was not hoodwinked. During the initiation he was led around the stage, conducted by two men with swords, as the degree was performed for us.

Instructions and signs were given. Upon the altar were four "holy books" (the Bible, the Koran, the Book of the Law and the Hindu Scriptures). At one point the "candidate" was told to kiss the book

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"of your religion" and, representing us all, he leaned forward and did so. I remembered the First Degree initiation, when I was told to kiss the Bible, and at that moment something came full cycle. It was the final such kiss to be a part of my life.

WINE IN A HUMAN SKULL
When it was time for the final obligation we all stood and repeated the oath with the representative candidate, administered by the Sovereign Grand Inspector General. We then swore true allegiance to the Supreme Council of the 33rd Degree, above all other allegiances, and swore never to recognize any other brother as being a member of the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry unless he also recognizes the Supreme authority of "this Supreme Council".

One of the Conductors then handed the "candidate" a human skull, upside down, with wine in it. "May this wine I now drink become a deadly poison to me, as the Hemlock juice drunk by Socrates, should I ever knowingly or willfully violate the same" (the oath).

He then drank the wine. A skeleton (one of the brothers dressed like one - he looked very convincing) then stepped out of the shadows and threw his arms around the "candidate." Then he (and we) continued the sealing of the obligation by saying, "And may these cold arms forever encircle me should I ever knowingly or willfully violate the same."

The Sovereign Grand Commander closed the meeting of the Supreme Council "with the Mystic Number," striking with his sword five, three, one and then two times. After the closing prayer, we all said "amen, amen, amen," and it was over.

PROMINENT MEN TOOK PART
There were some extremely prominent men there that day, including a Scandinavian King, two former presidents of the United States, an internationally prominent evangelist, two other internationally prominent clergymen, and a very high official of the federal government, the one who actually presented me with

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the certificate of the 33rd Degree. Some made only brief appearances; others stayed much longer. However, they didn't do much mixing or socializing with us, except for those whom they already knew. Even though these celebrities weren't extremely "brotherly," it was still quite an experience for me just to be associated with them. It was easily the largest gathering of such prominent and influential men of which I have ever been a part.

The third day there was a banquet to celebrate our becoming "Grand Inspectors General. 33rd Degree." The banquet was a little anticlimactic, at least for me, and I was anxious to get it over with so I could return home. It was good to be a 33rd at last. But it wasn't as exciting or fulfilling as I had thought it would be during all those years in the Craft. I guess this was because of the profound changes going on down deep within me.

I returned home as soon as the 33rd Degree award and related social functions were finished, for it was time for my next appointment with the doctor. After he had examined my eyes he said they were healing fine, that he felt good about the way they were looking, and as usual he spoke with me about the Lord. I told him that I planned to come to his church the next Sunday and that I had been reading the Bible.

Obviously pleased, he said, "Good. Keep studying, and your sight will soon be much better." By this time I knew what he meant - he was speaking of my spiritual sight.

MAUNDY THURSDAY
In the Scottish Rite the Thursday before Easter, "Maundy Thursday," is an important day. On this day we always performed a special service of Communion in the local Scottish Rite Temple. At this time I was Wise Master in the Chapter of Rose Croix and it was my job to preside over the exemplification (dramatization) of the ceremony. I had done this many times and was known for my knowledge of the service and for "doing a good job" of putting it on.

THE WORDS HAD MEANING NOW
On Thursday evening we gathered at our home Temple and dressed for the ceremony. It was always a most solemn occasion

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and seemed a little awesome, even to those of us who had done it many times.

Dressed in long, black, hooded robes, we marched in, single file, with only our faces partly showing, and took our seats.

There was something very tomb-like about the setting. The silence was broken only by the organ, playing mournfully in the background, and there was no light except for the little that came through the windows. After the opening prayer (from which the name of Jesus Christ was conspicuously excluded), I stood and opened the service.

As I had done so many times before, I said, "We meet this day to commemorate the death of our 'Most Wise and Perfect Master,' not as inspired or divine, for this is not for us to decide, but as at least the greatest of the apostles of mankind."

As I spoke these words that I had spoken so many times before, I had a strange and powerful experience. It was as if I were standing apart, listening to myself as I spoke, and the words echoed deep within me, shouting their significance. They were the same words I had spoken so many times before, but had meaning for me now. They made me sick, literally ill, and I stopped.

The realization of what I had just said grew within me like the rising of a crescendo. I had just called Jesus an "apostle of mankind" who was neither inspired nor divine! There was a silent pause that seemed to last a very long time as I struggled with a sick smothering within.

When I was finally able, I continued with the service and we gathered around a large table across the room in marching order. The table was long, shaped like a cross, and covered with a red cloth which was decorated down the center with roses.

A BLACK COMMUNION
Once we were assembled at the table, I elevated (lifted high) the plate of bread, took a piece, put my hand on the shoulder of the man in front of me, gave him the plate and said, "Take, eat, and give to the hungry."

This continued until all had partaken of the bread.

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Then I lifted up the goblet of wine, took a sip, and said, "Take, drink, and give to the thirsty."

Again, this continued until all had partaken of the wine.

Then I took the bread, walked over to the first row of spectators and served it to the man previously chosen for the honor of representing the rest of the Lodge.

As I handed it to him I again said, "Take, eat, and give to the hungry."

In like manner I served the wine to him saying, "Take, drink, and give to the thirsty," and he sat down.

After this we took our places at the table shaped like a cross and sat down. The setting was dark, our long, sweeping robes were solid black, our faces nearly concealed in the hoods, and the mood was one of heavy gloom. The Christ-less prayers and the hymns we sang fit right in. The one word that would describe the entire event would be "black." It was, indeed, a Black Communion - a strange Black Mass.

EXTINGUISHING THE CANDLE
There was a large Menorah (candlestick with seven candleholders) in the center of the room, with seven candles now burning.

Standing again, I said, "This is indeed a sad day, for we have lost our Master. We may never see him again. He is dead! Mourn, weep and cry, for he is gone."

Then I asked the officers to extinguish the candles in the large Menorah. One by one they rose, walked to the center of the room, extinguished a selected candle and left the room.

Finally, with only the center candle still burning, I arose, walked sadly to the Menorah and extinguished the last candle - the candle representing the life of Jesus, our "Most Wise and Perfect Master." We had dramatized and commemorated the snuffing out of the life of Jesus, without once mentioning his name, and the scene ended with the room in deep silent darkness. I walked out of the room, leaving only the darkness and the stillness of death.

Once again, the single word best to describe it would be "black."

All through the service I was shaking and sick. I have never felt so sad. I had stumbled over the words but, somehow, I made it to

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the completion of the ceremony and went back to the dressing room. I still didn't know much about praying but felt that I had been sustained by the Lord through it all.

THE FINAL PARTING
Back in the dressing room we hung up our black, hooded robes, put our street clothes back on and prepared to leave. Less than two hours had passed since I arrived. But what had happened in that period of time had changed my life forever.

Still sick in my heart, I changed clothes without a word to anyone. The others asked me what was wrong. But I couldn't reply.

They reminded me that I had acted as Wise Master so many times before, that I was known for my smooth performance of it, and they asked what had gone wrong.

I was choking on the awful reality of what we had said and done, the way we had blasphemed the Lord, and the evil, black mockery we had made of His pure and selfless death. With weeping welling up within me. I could only shake my head in silence and walk out.

Mike was waiting for me at the door, expecting to get a ride home, and he asked, "What's the matter, Jim? Are you sick?"

Finally able to speak, I quietly replied, "No, Mike, I'm just sick of all this"

"IT ISNT RIGHT"
I started down the wide steps in front of the large Scottish Rite Temple, realization and conviction growing within me, reached the bottom step and stopped. Turning around, I looked back at the huge, granite building and slowly studied the words, carved in the stone across the top of the entrance: "ANCIENT AND ACCEPTED SCOTTISH RITE OF FREEMASONRY."

Something came clearly into focus in my understanding and I made a decision. This crisis point in my life, one which had required so many years for me to reach, passed in seconds. The truth was revealed and the choice was made - a choice that would be the difference between darkness and light, death and life, one that would last for eternity. Looking up at those words I had walked

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under so many times, words of which I had been so proud, I spoke to myself out loud. It was as if I were the only man in the world as I heard myself say, slowly and deliberately, "It isn't ancient, it isn't Scottish, it isn't free, and it isn't right!''...

Footnote

1 This statement is an interesting contradiction with the Temple it adorns, as well as with the thousands of other such Masonic temples built around the World at a total cost of many billions of dollars.


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[Dit bericht is gewijzigd door PHETEP op 02-02-2003 22:26]

pi_8244017
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Topic: Wat doet de vrijmetselarij nu precies??
The same as any other sinister cult, Pinky: try to take over the world!

(Insert evil laughter here.)

Ars longa, vita brevis
pi_8251162
Hmm... Dus zoals ik uit de posts in dit topic mag opmaken, is de vrijmetselarij een club van hoge (32 en 33e graad) stoute mannen, die een clubje runnen waar lagergeplaatst voetvolk vrijwillig lid van kan worden, maar waarbij ze nooit zelf zullen achterhalen dat ze in feite de dekmantel zijn voor een groep engerds. Hmm... En mocht iemand het redden tot de 33e graad, dan hoort ie in principe bij diezelfde groep en heeft ie macht!... *Ieks... Creepy*
+10 intelligent
  maandag 3 februari 2003 @ 13:18:19 #133
37401 M.ALTA
The Truth is Gold
pi_8252534
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Op maandag 3 februari 2003 12:10 schreef C3La het volgende:
Hmm... Dus zoals ik uit de posts in dit topic mag opmaken, is de vrijmetselarij een club van hoge (32 en 33e graad) stoute mannen, die een clubje runnen waar lagergeplaatst voetvolk vrijwillig lid van kan worden, maar waarbij ze nooit zelf zullen achterhalen dat ze in feite de dekmantel zijn voor een groep engerds. Hmm... En mocht iemand het redden tot de 33e graad, dan hoort ie in principe bij diezelfde groep en heeft ie macht!... *Ieks... Creepy*
Tja, ik zou haast de ambitie krijgen om er ook bij te willen horen.
Morgen, dat beloof ik, gaat alles beter. Dan schijnt de zon, en dan zingen de vogels, dan waait er weer een frisse wind. [url]http://www.niburu.nl[/url] * [url]http://www.rense.com[/url] * [url]http://www.daanspeak.com[/url]
pi_8254560
Wisten jullie dat Vrijmetselaar Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, die de Broederschap verliet op latere leeftijd, uit de weg is geruimd d.m.v. vergiftiging voor het "verraden" van de Vrijmetselaars-eed en het onthullen van hun esoterische geheimen in "Die Zauber-flote"?

Wie van jullie heeft trouwens de film "From Hell" gezien, over de rituele Vrijmetselaars-moorden die bekend zijn geworden als de "Jack The Ripper"-moorden?

zie ook; www.cospiracyarchive.com/NWO/Masonic_Ritual_Murders.htm

  maandag 3 februari 2003 @ 15:16:15 #135
45267 Lord_Gannon
Het is weer feest :-)
pi_8255011
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Op maandag 3 februari 2003 14:53 schreef PHETEP het volgende:
zie ook; www.cospiracyarchive.com/NWO/Masonic_Ritual_Murders.htm
interresant dat je zoveel van je informatie uit samenzwerings hoek haalt... Misschien zou het zelf verkennen van de wereld je beeld.. aanpassen. Je moet niet zomaar klakkeloos geloven wat mensen opschrijven. Zeker niet als het over een onderwerp gaat zoals de Vrijmetselaars. We hebben het hier wel over een groep die bestaat uit verschillende loges die mensen bevatten die allemaal op zoek zijn naar hun waarheid. Dat hier wellicht loges tussen zitten die af en toe flirten met het occulte zou niet ondenkbaar zijn. Juist doordat er zoveel verschillende loges zijn met verschillende regels kun je niet spreken over de vrijmetselaars als een groep. Je zou dan de verschillende loges apart moeten nemen en analyseren.
there is no gain without sacrifice
pi_8255257
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Op maandag 3 februari 2003 15:16 schreef Lord_Gannon het volgende:

[..]

interresant dat je zoveel van je informatie uit samenzwerings hoek haalt... Misschien zou het zelf verkennen van de wereld je beeld.. aanpassen. Je moet niet zomaar klakkeloos geloven wat mensen opschrijven. Zeker niet als het over een onderwerp gaat zoals de Vrijmetselaars. We hebben het hier wel over een groep die bestaat uit verschillende loges die mensen bevatten die allemaal op zoek zijn naar hun waarheid. Dat hier wellicht loges tussen zitten die af en toe flirten met het occulte zou niet ondenkbaar zijn. Juist doordat er zoveel verschillende loges zijn met verschillende regels kun je niet spreken over de vrijmetselaars als een groep. Je zou dan de verschillende loges apart moeten nemen en analyseren.


Is niet elke site die de Vrijmetselarij in een negatief daglicht plaatst of op een manier die jou niet welgevalt per definitie een site over "samenzweringen"? I don't see your problem
  maandag 3 februari 2003 @ 15:43:48 #137
45267 Lord_Gannon
Het is weer feest :-)
pi_8255527
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Op vrijdag 19 oktober 2001 01:17 schreef YRRAB het volgende:
"In the USA, Freemasons manipulated and won the War of Independence and then took control of the new United States of America. They and other Brotherhood groups have never conceded that control to this day. How appropriate, then, that when the founding fathers commissioned a design for the Great Seal of the United States, it included the classic Brotherhood (Prison Warder) symbols which go back to ancient Egypt and beyond, including the pyramid and all-seeing eye. Above and below this symbol are two Latin phrases, Annuit Coeptis and Novus Ordo Seclorum. These translate as "Announcing the birth, creation, or arrival" of "A New Order of Ages". In other words, announcing the creation of the New World Order. The founding of the United States was a massive step forward in the plan for centralised global power. Today, this part of the seal can be found on every US dollar bill, and again this is very appropriate, given that the Elite controls the American economy and everyone else's. The decision to put the Pyramid/New World Order symbol on the dollar was made by the 33rd degree Freemason, Franklin D. Roosevelt, in 1935, with the full support and encouragement of his vice president, Henry Wallace, another 33rd degree Mason. The American flag, the stars and stripes was also designed to reflect Brotherhood symbolism, and the Statue of Liberty was given to American Freemasons by the French Grand Orient (Illuminati) Masonic Order"
De Vrijmetselaars hebben in die oorlog geholpen omdat ze tegen het oude regeer systeem waren waarin een koning de absolute vorst was. Democratie sprak meer aan omdat er daarin ruimte was om voor jezelf een waarheid te vinden in het leven. Ook de reden dat de Fransen dat beeld stuurden, daar waren ze namelijk ook al geweest, en in rusland ook. Daarom haat de rooms katholieke kerk ze ook en verspreiden die van die satan's aanhangers crap overal. (De katholieke kerk was in die tijd nogal "bevriend" met de vorsten in europa.) Het is dat je het weet
there is no gain without sacrifice
pi_8255604
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Op maandag 3 februari 2003 15:43 schreef Lord_Gannon het volgende:

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De Vrijmetselaars hebben in die oorlog geholpen omdat ze tegen het oude regeer systeem waren waarin een koning de absolute vorst was. Democratie sprak meer aan omdat er daarin ruimte was om voor jezelf een waarheid te vinden in het leven. Ook de reden dat de Fransen dat beeld stuurden, daar waren ze namelijk ook al geweest, en in rusland ook. Daarom haat de rooms katholieke kerk ze ook en verspreiden die van die satan's aanhangers crap overal. (De katholieke kerk was in die tijd nogal "bevriend" met de vorsten in europa.) Het is dat je het weet


In dat stuk hebben ze het over het Alziend Oog op het Dollarbiljet met eronder staand "Novus Ordo Seclorum", de Nieuwe Wereld Orde, wat heeft dat te betekenen volgens jou of volgens je bronnen van informatie?

[Dit bericht is gewijzigd door PHETEP op 03-02-2003 15:53]

  maandag 3 februari 2003 @ 15:49:09 #139
37401 M.ALTA
The Truth is Gold
pi_8255619
quote:
Op maandag 3 februari 2003 14:53 schreef PHETEP het volgende:
Wisten jullie dat Vrijmetselaar Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, die de Broederschap verliet op latere leeftijd, uit de weg is geruimd d.m.v. vergiftiging voor het "verraden" van de Vrijmetselaars-eed en het onthullen van hun esoterische geheimen in "Die Zauber-flote"?
interessant weetje.
Die Mozart had wel iets byzonders.
Was die Mozart ook geen illuminait-afstammeling ?
Morgen, dat beloof ik, gaat alles beter. Dan schijnt de zon, en dan zingen de vogels, dan waait er weer een frisse wind. [url]http://www.niburu.nl[/url] * [url]http://www.rense.com[/url] * [url]http://www.daanspeak.com[/url]
  maandag 3 februari 2003 @ 15:51:07 #140
45267 Lord_Gannon
Het is weer feest :-)
pi_8255657
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Op maandag 3 februari 2003 15:29 schreef PHETEP het volgende:

[..]

Is niet elke site die de Vrijmetselarij in een negatief daglicht plaatst of op een manier die jou niet welgevalt per definitie een site over "samenzweringen"? I don't see your problem


Mijn probleem is dat ik vind dat je verder zou moeten kijken en zoeken. Heel veel van die conspiracy sites worden onderhouden door mensen die, laten we zeggen, de grip op de werkelijkheid hebben verloren. Het sneue is dat ze dan wel allemaal weldenkende mensen mee slepen hun paranoide avonturen in. Het begint met nieuwsgierigheid en da's goed, maar je moet wel erop letten dat je je niet laat verleiden door mensen die zelf niet eens weten waar ze over praten. Zoals ik al eerder zei, als je iets echt wilt weten moet je er zelf achteraan gaan. In de echte wereld. En niet je info uit boeken halen. Dat zijn toch voor het grootste gedeelte mensen die graag aandacht willen.
there is no gain without sacrifice
  maandag 3 februari 2003 @ 15:54:09 #141
45267 Lord_Gannon
Het is weer feest :-)
pi_8255716
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Op maandag 3 februari 2003 15:48 schreef PHETEP het volgende:

[..]

Bovenstaande lijkt wel conspiracy paranoia


Of goed uitgezochte informatie, en je zult nooit weten welk van de twee het is tenzij je zelf gaat zoeken naar de antwoorden. Ik probeer je niet te flamen. Wil alleen iets duidelijk maken.
there is no gain without sacrifice
  maandag 3 februari 2003 @ 15:54:30 #142
37401 M.ALTA
The Truth is Gold
pi_8255723
quote:
Op maandag 3 februari 2003 15:16 schreef Lord_Gannon het volgende:

[..]

interresant dat je zoveel van je informatie uit samenzwerings hoek haalt... Misschien zou het zelf verkennen van de wereld je beeld.. aanpassen.


PHETEP doet niets anders
quote:
Je moet niet zomaar klakkeloos geloven wat mensen opschrijven.
Doet PHETEP ook niet
quote:
Zeker niet als het over een onderwerp gaat zoals de Vrijmetselaars. We hebben het hier wel over een groep die bestaat uit verschillende loges die mensen bevatten die allemaal op zoek zijn naar hun waarheid.
En elkaar behoorlijk in de maling nemen.
quote:
Dat hier wellicht loges tussen zitten die af en toe flirten met het occulte zou niet ondenkbaar zijn. Juist doordat er zoveel verschillende loges zijn met verschillende regels kun je niet spreken over de vrijmetselaars als een groep.
Alles wordt bovenin gecontroleerd
quote:
Je zou dan de verschillende loges apart moeten nemen en analyseren.
.....................................................................Bingo !
Morgen, dat beloof ik, gaat alles beter. Dan schijnt de zon, en dan zingen de vogels, dan waait er weer een frisse wind. [url]http://www.niburu.nl[/url] * [url]http://www.rense.com[/url] * [url]http://www.daanspeak.com[/url]
  maandag 3 februari 2003 @ 15:58:46 #143
37401 M.ALTA
The Truth is Gold
pi_8255813
quote:
Op maandag 3 februari 2003 15:43 schreef Lord_Gannon het volgende:

[..]

De Vrijmetselaars hebben in die oorlog geholpen omdat ze tegen het oude regeer systeem waren waarin een koning de absolute vorst was.


De monarchie metselde er ook vrij op los.
quote:
Democratie sprak meer aan omdat er daarin ruimte was om voor jezelf een waarheid te vinden in het leven.
Arbeit macht frei ?
quote:
Ook de reden dat de Fransen dat beeld stuurden, daar waren ze namelijk ook al geweest, en in rusland ook. Daarom haat de rooms katholieke kerk ze ook en verspreiden die van die satan's aanhangers crap overal. (De katholieke kerk was in die tijd nogal "bevriend" met de vorsten in europa.) Het is dat je het weet
............al die mooie kathedralen toch ................... wie zou ze toch gemetseld hebben ?
Morgen, dat beloof ik, gaat alles beter. Dan schijnt de zon, en dan zingen de vogels, dan waait er weer een frisse wind. [url]http://www.niburu.nl[/url] * [url]http://www.rense.com[/url] * [url]http://www.daanspeak.com[/url]
  maandag 3 februari 2003 @ 16:04:14 #144
45267 Lord_Gannon
Het is weer feest :-)
pi_8255918
quote:
Op maandag 3 februari 2003 15:54 schreef M.ALTA het volgende:

PHETEP doet niets anders
[..] Kan ik niet beoordelen

Doet PHETEP ook niet
[..] Het lijkt er anders wel op.

En elkaar behoorlijk in de maling nemen.
[..] Is niet elke instelling die mensen een waarheid bied een instelling die mensen in de maling neemt?

Alles wordt bovenin gecontroleerd
[..] Natuurlijk da's volgens mij normaal. Zo werkt de wereld nu eenmaal

.....................................................................Bingo !


Ik hoop niet dat je met die smiley bedoelt dat ik m'n mond moet houden
there is no gain without sacrifice
  maandag 3 februari 2003 @ 16:04:46 #145
21527 Fonkmeistah
Zinloos Geweldig
pi_8255925
quote:
Op maandag 3 februari 2003 13:18 schreef M.ALTA het volgende:
Tja, ik zou haast de ambitie krijgen om er ook bij te willen horen.
mja je zou ze ook bijna gelijk geven dat ze het domme volk zo behandelen
Zij die willen voorkomen dat je de werkelijke geschiedenis kent, zijn er op uit hem te herhalen.
Do not attempt to think or depression may occur, All sports broadcasts will proceed as normal
pi_8256016
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Op maandag 3 februari 2003 15:54 schreef Lord_Gannon het volgende:

[..]

Of goed uitgezochte informatie, en je zult nooit weten welk van de twee het is tenzij je zelf gaat zoeken naar de antwoorden. Ik probeer je niet te flamen. Wil alleen iets duidelijk maken.


Volgens welke telepathische weg weet jij dat de auteurs en researchers van al die tig websites en boeken "niet weten waarover ze praten" en je meent ook nog op een aanmatigend toontje dat ik geen goed uitgezochte informatie tot me neem en ik niet al mijn hele incarnatie op zoek ben naar "antwoorden", KEN JIJ MIJ SOMS: NEE DUS ??????????

Hier laat ik het verder bij, want die standaard-reactie van jou die ken ik nu onderhand wel (zie al die andere would-be Vrijmetselaars, ontkenners, pseudo-sceptici...), verspilde energie.....

  maandag 3 februari 2003 @ 16:09:47 #147
37401 M.ALTA
The Truth is Gold
pi_8256017
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Op maandag 3 februari 2003 16:04 schreef Lord_Gannon het volgende:

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Ik hoop niet dat je met die smiley bedoelt dat ik m'n mond moet houden


Nee, mijn mond; ik verklap veel te veel.
Morgen, dat beloof ik, gaat alles beter. Dan schijnt de zon, en dan zingen de vogels, dan waait er weer een frisse wind. [url]http://www.niburu.nl[/url] * [url]http://www.rense.com[/url] * [url]http://www.daanspeak.com[/url]
  maandag 3 februari 2003 @ 16:15:06 #148
45267 Lord_Gannon
Het is weer feest :-)
pi_8256130
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Op maandag 3 februari 2003 15:58 schreef M.ALTA het volgende:

[..]

De monarchie metselde er ook vrij op los.
[..]

Arbeit macht frei ?
[..]

............al die mooie kathedralen toch ................... wie zou ze toch gemetseld hebben ?


Ik denk dat je hier iets verkeerd ziet. De Vrijmetselaars waar dit topic over gaat zijn de speculative freemasons. De traditionele vrijmetselaars zouden uit de regio van egypte gekomen zijn. Door de eeuwen heen is die groep veranderd omdat het belang van masons afnam. De speculative freemasons zijn pas echt zo geworden in 1717 toen the grand lodge of England werd opgericht. In Engeland werden ze niet vervolgd voor hun geloofsovertuiging. Per slot van rekening had de Engelse koning de banden met Rome en het vaticaan verbroken. De speculative Vrijmetselaars die dus later op het continent komen worden wel onderdrukt door de lokale vorsten en steunen daarom het volk met hun revoluties. Er waren op het continent dus ook traditionele vrijmetselaars maar die hadden geen problemen met de kerk omdat zij allemaal netjes gelovig waren. Dus om je vraag te beantwoorden over wie de kathedralen hebben gebouwt, de vrijmetselaars maar niet de vrijmetselaars groepen waar wij het al de hele tijd over hebben
there is no gain without sacrifice
  maandag 3 februari 2003 @ 16:17:34 #149
37401 M.ALTA
The Truth is Gold
pi_8256196
quote:
Op maandag 3 februari 2003 15:51 schreef Lord_Gannon het volgende:

[..]

Mijn probleem is dat ik vind dat je verder zou moeten kijken en zoeken. Heel veel van die conspiracy sites worden onderhouden door mensen die, laten we zeggen, de grip op de werkelijkheid hebben verloren.


Daar heb ik nog geen last van
quote:
Het sneue is dat ze dan wel allemaal weldenkende mensen mee slepen hun paranoide avonturen in. Het begint met nieuwsgierigheid en da's goed, maar je moet wel erop letten dat je je niet laat verleiden door mensen die zelf niet eens weten waar ze over praten.
..........nog redelijk.
quote:
Zoals ik al eerder zei, als je iets echt wilt weten moet je er zelf achteraan gaan. In de echte wereld.
Doet men toch ?
quote:
En niet je info uit boeken halen. Dat zijn toch voor het grootste gedeelte mensen die graag aandacht willen.
.... ???????? moeten we de kranten en CNN soms geloven ?
Morgen, dat beloof ik, gaat alles beter. Dan schijnt de zon, en dan zingen de vogels, dan waait er weer een frisse wind. [url]http://www.niburu.nl[/url] * [url]http://www.rense.com[/url] * [url]http://www.daanspeak.com[/url]
  maandag 3 februari 2003 @ 16:23:38 #150
37401 M.ALTA
The Truth is Gold
pi_8256305
quote:
Op maandag 3 februari 2003 15:54 schreef Lord_Gannon het volgende:

[..]

Of goed uitgezochte informatie, en je zult nooit weten welk van de twee het is tenzij je zelf gaat zoeken naar de antwoorden. Ik probeer je niet te flamen. Wil alleen iets duidelijk maken.


Wat is het probleem ?
Morgen, dat beloof ik, gaat alles beter. Dan schijnt de zon, en dan zingen de vogels, dan waait er weer een frisse wind. [url]http://www.niburu.nl[/url] * [url]http://www.rense.com[/url] * [url]http://www.daanspeak.com[/url]
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