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hallo, een beetje krediet voor een wanhopige ouder van een vermist en ms wel vermoord/omgekomen kind, zegquote:Op donderdag 23 juni 2005 16:58 schreef heiden6 het volgende:
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Want?
Ik vind die moeder van dat meisje overigens maar een stom wijf. Eerst een beetje dom lopen blaten dat d'r dochter nooit uit zou gaan met drie vreemde jongens in het buitenland. Nee, ze komt daar om haar prachtige hotelkamer 24/7 te bekijken, nou goed? En dan is ze continu bezig alles op te kloppen in de media, en een beetje loos in de rondte roepen, zich overal mee te bemoeien. Tyf even op ofzo.
niet iedereen reageert zo helder en adequaat in zijn radeloosheid, als jij zou doen, Heiden
[i]"you left me standing here, a long long time ago"[/i]
spannend..quote:Op donderdag 23 juni 2005 13:12 schreef halion het volgende:
ik vind overigens wel dat de moeder van Natalee verdacht snel ter plekke was.
Op de dag dat ze vermist was, 30 mei, kwam ze 's avonds al met de FBI aan op Aruba.
Alsof ze het allemaal verwacht had...
Ja, het is soms moeilijk om te leven met je eigen perfectie. Vergeef me.quote:Op donderdag 23 juni 2005 17:04 schreef milagro het volgende:
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hallo, een beetje krediet voor een wanhopige ouder van een vermist en ms wel vermoord/omgekomen kind, zeg
niet iedereen reageert zo helder en adequaat in zijn radeloosheid, als jij zou doen, Heiden
As the officer took her away, she recalled that she asked,
"Why do you push us around?"
And she remembered him saying,
"I don't know, but the law's the law, and you're under arrest."
"Why do you push us around?"
And she remembered him saying,
"I don't know, but the law's the law, and you're under arrest."
hoe kan ik anders dan, Heidenquote:Op donderdag 23 juni 2005 17:20 schreef heiden6 het volgende:
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Ja, het is soms moeilijk om te leven met je eigen perfectie. Vergeef me.
[i]"you left me standing here, a long long time ago"[/i]
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,160405,00.html
Dit stukje is lang niet zo kritisch over NL en Aruba
Dit stukje is lang niet zo kritisch over NL en Aruba
"Pim Fortuyn was een Cylon" - Theo van Gogh te Amsterdam 5-8-2005
Judge arrested in Aruba case
Thursday, June 23, 2005; Posted: 3:02 p.m. EDT (19:02 GMT)
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Paul Van Der Sloot was arrested after being questioned by police as a witness over the weekend.
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ORANJESTAD, Aruba (CNN) -- An Aruban judge, the father of a 17-year-old suspect in the disappearance of an Alabama teenager, has also been arrested in the case, a prosecution spokesperson said Thursday.
Paul Van Der Sloot is now being viewed as a suspect in the case of Natalee Holloway, a missing 18-year-old from suburban Birmingham, Alabama, Mariaine Croes said. He was arrested about 2 p.m. Thursday.
On Wednesday, Holloway's mother said more individuals "need to be pursued" in connection with the case.
Beth Holloway Twitty said she's sure the four young men in custody -- but not formally charged in the case -- have more information to divulge.
"I have no doubt that they know what and who and where and when and why and how. I have no doubt," Twitty said on NBC's "Today Show."
"The only thing I think there are some other individuals, though, that need to be pursued, and I know the local authorities are doing that and will be doing that," she added.
Twitty told CNN's "American Morning" she met Tuesday with the parents of 17-year-old Joran Van Der Sloot, one of the people in custody. He's one of the last people reported to have seen Holloway.
She said the Van Der Sloots invited her into their home, when she was handing out prayer cards in their neighborhood.
Twitty refused to give details about their 90-minute discussion.
"I think I walked away with the confirmation that we still have some individuals that we need to pursue," she said.
Holloway, an 18-year-old honors student from the Birmingham suburb of Mountain Brook, disappeared May 30 after she left a nightclub with Van Der Sloot and brothers Deepak and Satish Kalpoe, ages 21 and 18 respectively, authorities said.
She was in Aruba with about 100 classmates to celebrate their recent graduation.
The three men and a fourth suspect, 26-year-old disc jockey Steve Croes, face accusations of two counts of murder and one count of kidnapping leading to murder.
None have been formally charged, and Twitty says she has seen "no evidence whatsoever" that her daughter is dead.
Defense attorneys for Van Der Sloot and the Kalpoes have said their clients maintain their innocence.
Meanwhile, four members of a Texas-based search-and-rescue team were scheduled to arrive in Aruba late Wednesday to begin planning their search for Holloway, said Tim Miller, director and founder of Texas EquuSearch.
Members of the group will meet with Aruban government officials and Holloway's family as soon as they arrive, Miller told CNN Wednesday.
The team has been delayed because of problems getting a charter flight and permission for their four search dogs to travel to the Caribbean island, Miller said.
All elements of the team should be in place Friday, he explained, including a side-scan sonar device that can peer 800 feet down into the ocean.
Miller founded Texas EquuSearch several years after the 1984 disappearance of his own daughter. Miller's efforts to find her were frustrated by a lack of help from authorities who thought she was a runaway. She later was found murdered in Texas, according to the group's Web site.
"I know what the Holloways are going through right now ... [we're going to] try to do everything possible to locate this child," Miller said.
Thursday, June 23, 2005; Posted: 3:02 p.m. EDT (19:02 GMT)
story.van.der.sloot.cnn.jpg
Paul Van Der Sloot was arrested after being questioned by police as a witness over the weekend.
Image:
WATCH
Browse/Search
Four suspects are in custody in the Holloway case(4:05)
Police in Aruba question judge in missing teen case(2:02)
Recent grads from the U.S. still pack Aruba's nightclubs(3:17)
New search for Natalee Holloway comes up empty(1:24)
RELATED
Gallery: Missing Aruba teen
• Was race a factor in arrests?
• Suspects to remain in custody
• Interactive: Safety tips for travelers
• Texas EquuSearchexternal link
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ORANJESTAD, Aruba (CNN) -- An Aruban judge, the father of a 17-year-old suspect in the disappearance of an Alabama teenager, has also been arrested in the case, a prosecution spokesperson said Thursday.
Paul Van Der Sloot is now being viewed as a suspect in the case of Natalee Holloway, a missing 18-year-old from suburban Birmingham, Alabama, Mariaine Croes said. He was arrested about 2 p.m. Thursday.
On Wednesday, Holloway's mother said more individuals "need to be pursued" in connection with the case.
Beth Holloway Twitty said she's sure the four young men in custody -- but not formally charged in the case -- have more information to divulge.
"I have no doubt that they know what and who and where and when and why and how. I have no doubt," Twitty said on NBC's "Today Show."
"The only thing I think there are some other individuals, though, that need to be pursued, and I know the local authorities are doing that and will be doing that," she added.
Twitty told CNN's "American Morning" she met Tuesday with the parents of 17-year-old Joran Van Der Sloot, one of the people in custody. He's one of the last people reported to have seen Holloway.
She said the Van Der Sloots invited her into their home, when she was handing out prayer cards in their neighborhood.
Twitty refused to give details about their 90-minute discussion.
"I think I walked away with the confirmation that we still have some individuals that we need to pursue," she said.
Holloway, an 18-year-old honors student from the Birmingham suburb of Mountain Brook, disappeared May 30 after she left a nightclub with Van Der Sloot and brothers Deepak and Satish Kalpoe, ages 21 and 18 respectively, authorities said.
She was in Aruba with about 100 classmates to celebrate their recent graduation.
The three men and a fourth suspect, 26-year-old disc jockey Steve Croes, face accusations of two counts of murder and one count of kidnapping leading to murder.
None have been formally charged, and Twitty says she has seen "no evidence whatsoever" that her daughter is dead.
Defense attorneys for Van Der Sloot and the Kalpoes have said their clients maintain their innocence.
Meanwhile, four members of a Texas-based search-and-rescue team were scheduled to arrive in Aruba late Wednesday to begin planning their search for Holloway, said Tim Miller, director and founder of Texas EquuSearch.
Members of the group will meet with Aruban government officials and Holloway's family as soon as they arrive, Miller told CNN Wednesday.
The team has been delayed because of problems getting a charter flight and permission for their four search dogs to travel to the Caribbean island, Miller said.
All elements of the team should be in place Friday, he explained, including a side-scan sonar device that can peer 800 feet down into the ocean.
Miller founded Texas EquuSearch several years after the 1984 disappearance of his own daughter. Miller's efforts to find her were frustrated by a lack of help from authorities who thought she was a runaway. She later was found murdered in Texas, according to the group's Web site.
"I know what the Holloways are going through right now ... [we're going to] try to do everything possible to locate this child," Miller said.
ik las het net!quote:Op donderdag 23 juni 2005 21:14 schreef halion het volgende:
BREAKING NEWS:
PAUL VAN DER SLOOT (vader Joran) ARRESTED.
[i]"you left me standing here, a long long time ago"[/i]
fuckin bizarrr..quote:
ik zag net het interview met die moeder en de vader.
moeder continue aan het janken, en vader zat er doodstil naast, gaf haar niet eens een arm.
op een gegeven moment stond hij op toen de telefoon ging en kwam hij niet meer terug.
Daddy-O knows mo'fo'sho'!
van Fox news
quote:Aruba Authorities Arrest Suspect's Dad
Thursday, June 23, 2005
ORANJESTAD, Aruba — Aruban authorities on Thursday arrested Paul van der Sloot (search), the father of the 17-year-old held in connection with the disappearance of missing Alabama high school student Natalee Holloway (search).
The arrest does not necessarily mean that authorities believe that Paul van der Sloot knows what happened to Natalee, or if his son, Joran van der Sloot (search), was involved. But Aruban law gives authorities significant leeway to hold someone in custody without charging them with a crime as a way to find out more about an incident.
Aruban government spokeswoman Mariaine Croes confirmed that Paul van der Sloot was detained and taken to the police station for processing.
Croes said he was arrested under "reasonable suspicion" in the disappearance of Holloway. He is now in his first 6 hours of interrogation. When that ends at 8 p.m. tonight, a judge will decide whether to hold the elder van der Sloot for another 48 hours.
"My husband was just picked up by police," Anita van der Sloot, referring to Paul van der Sloot, said in a telephone call to The Associated Press. "I don't know what to think."
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[i]"you left me standing here, a long long time ago"[/i]
tja, als de vader de zoon geholpen heeft met 'opruimen' verbaast me dat niet echt eigenlijk,quote:Op donderdag 23 juni 2005 21:18 schreef halion het volgende:
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fuckin bizarrr..
ik zag net het interview met die moeder en de vader.
moeder continue aan het janken, en vader zat er doodstil naast, gaf haar niet eens een arm.
op een gegeven moment stond hij op toen de telefoon ging en kwam hij niet meer terug.
Daddy-O knows mo'fo'sho'!
er is wat naars gebeurd, zoon belt pa, pa ziet zoons hele toekomst naar de klote gaan en denkt hem voor de lange termijn te helpen door hem nu te helpen, zeg maar.
[i]"you left me standing here, a long long time ago"[/i]
het was aan Paul van der Sloot's kop te zien.
Moeder volledig in de stress en hij zat er zeer verdacht naast.
Hij wist natuurlijk dat zijn huwelijk naar de kloten zou gaan. Zoon en echtgenoot betrokken bij de vermissing. ah nice!
Moeder volledig in de stress en hij zat er zeer verdacht naast.
Hij wist natuurlijk dat zijn huwelijk naar de kloten zou gaan. Zoon en echtgenoot betrokken bij de vermissing. ah nice!
klopt milagro,quote:Op donderdag 23 juni 2005 21:26 schreef milagro het volgende:
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tja, als de vader de zoon geholpen heeft met 'opruimen' verbaast me dat niet echt eigenlijk,
er is wat naars gebeurd, zoon belt pa, pa ziet zoons hele toekomst naar de klote gaan en denkt hem voor de lange termijn te helpen door hem nu te helpen, zeg maar.
maar hij als wanna-be-judge zou toch beter moeten weten. Zoiets hou je niet stil. echt niet...
ja, maar op zo'n moment denk je ws niet helemaal rationeel na, je kan kiezen uit maar 2 kwaden, of je gaat met je kind naar de politiie en laat hem zichzelf aangeven, met alle ellende van dien, of je neemt het risico door een en ander weg te werken.quote:Op donderdag 23 juni 2005 21:28 schreef halion het volgende:
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klopt milagro,
maar hij als wanna-be-judge zou toch beter moeten weten. Zoiets hou je niet stil. echt niet...
maar goed, we weten niet eens of het meisje dood is of "alleen maar" vastgehouden ergens
[i]"you left me standing here, a long long time ago"[/i]
From tha AP
Dutch Teen's Father Detained in Disappearance of Natalee HollowayFrom Associated Press
ORANJESTAD, Aruba -- Aruban police today detained the father of a Dutch teen already in custody in connection with the disappearance of Natalee Holloway, the teen's mother said.
"My husband was just picked up by police," Anita van der Sloot, referring to Paul van der Sloot, said in a telephone call to The Associated Press. "I don't know what to think."
Paul van der Sloot is a judicial official on the Dutch Caribbean island.
Anita van der Sloot was about to leave the house for an interview with the AP when she said police came for her husband. She did not have any additional information about the detention.
Mariaine Croes, a spokeswoman for Attorney General Caren Janssen, told CNN: "There is a reasonable suspicion that he knows something and is involved in the disappearance."
Four other people have been detained in connection with Holloway's disappearance May 30. The 18-year-old Mountain Brook, Ala., woman was celebrating her high school graduation.
The others in custody are Joran van der Sloot, 17; his friends Deepak Kalpoe, 21, and brother Satish Kalpoe, 18; and Steve Gregory Croes, 26. No one has been charged in the case.
While Anita van der Sloot had been allowed to visit her son occasionally in jail, authorities denied similar access to Paul van der Sloot, saying they believed contact between the two could damage the investigation.
Joran van der Sloot and the Kalpoe brothers were with Holloway the night she disappeared. They said they drove her to a northern beach and then dropped her off at her hotel, where she was approached by a security guard.
Dutch Teen's Father Detained in Disappearance of Natalee HollowayFrom Associated Press
ORANJESTAD, Aruba -- Aruban police today detained the father of a Dutch teen already in custody in connection with the disappearance of Natalee Holloway, the teen's mother said.
"My husband was just picked up by police," Anita van der Sloot, referring to Paul van der Sloot, said in a telephone call to The Associated Press. "I don't know what to think."
Paul van der Sloot is a judicial official on the Dutch Caribbean island.
Anita van der Sloot was about to leave the house for an interview with the AP when she said police came for her husband. She did not have any additional information about the detention.
Mariaine Croes, a spokeswoman for Attorney General Caren Janssen, told CNN: "There is a reasonable suspicion that he knows something and is involved in the disappearance."
Four other people have been detained in connection with Holloway's disappearance May 30. The 18-year-old Mountain Brook, Ala., woman was celebrating her high school graduation.
The others in custody are Joran van der Sloot, 17; his friends Deepak Kalpoe, 21, and brother Satish Kalpoe, 18; and Steve Gregory Croes, 26. No one has been charged in the case.
While Anita van der Sloot had been allowed to visit her son occasionally in jail, authorities denied similar access to Paul van der Sloot, saying they believed contact between the two could damage the investigation.
Joran van der Sloot and the Kalpoe brothers were with Holloway the night she disappeared. They said they drove her to a northern beach and then dropped her off at her hotel, where she was approached by a security guard.
toch wel treurig dat het nieuws in Nederland zich hier nauwelijks mee bezig houdt.
Narrow-minded zijn ze hier in NL..als je het mij vraagt...
Narrow-minded zijn ze hier in NL..als je het mij vraagt...
Nou, als het meisje een Colombiaanse of zeg Zweedse was dan was het wellicht wel gelukt om er mee weg te komen.quote:Op donderdag 23 juni 2005 21:28 schreef halion het volgende:
klopt milagro,
maar hij als wanna-be-judge zou toch beter moeten weten. Zoiets hou je niet stil. echt niet...
Maar goed, dit zijn de opties:
1: Meisje is van het eiland af, wellicht tegen haar wil.
2: Meisjel leeft nog en is op het eiland.
3: Meisje is dood.
Zelf sluit ik optie 2 uit daar het een klein eiland is en er een groot bedrag staat op informatie.
Van optie drie ga ik dan zelf maar uit...
"Pim Fortuyn was een Cylon" - Theo van Gogh te Amsterdam 5-8-2005
Is die Mariaine Croes (spokeswoman for Attorney General Caren Janssen) toevallig familie van die Steve Croes (verdachte #4)?
misschien heeft die moeder van Natalee bij haar bezoek aan momma and poppa Slut wel een microfoontje geplaatst...
Nope.quote:Op donderdag 23 juni 2005 21:54 schreef Roel_Jewel het volgende:
Is die Mariaine Croes (spokeswoman for Attorney General Caren Janssen) toevallig familie van die Steve Croes (verdachte #4)?
Ik ben dit onderwerp nu al de hele dag aan het volgen op een Amerikaans forum [http://www.scaredmonkeys.com] en als je alle details leest dan is dit toch echt wel een mysterie, hoor. Het forum is nu down, misschien maar goed ook, ik maak me vreselijk pissig om Amerikanen die niet verder kijken dan hun neus lang is en die alles wat buitenlands als verdacht danwel minderwaardig beschouwen.
Behoud het hondenlosloopgebied Pietersberg
deze is veel beter, goede discussies, door Amerikanen die wel degelijk helder en gefundeerd kunnen discussieren: http://www.riehlworldview.com
Daar kwam ik ook even langs. Zag een reageur helemaal afgemaakt worden omdat ie een andere kijk op de zaak had [lees: een andere theorie aanhing dan die dat Joran en/of zijn vrienden schuldig zijn] en dat zag er niet echt respectvol uit.
Behoud het hondenlosloopgebied Pietersberg
ik lees net:quote:Op donderdag 23 juni 2005 21:56 schreef halion het volgende:
deze is veel beter, goede discussies, door Amerikanen die wel degelijk helder en gefundeerd kunnen discussieren: http://www.riehlworldview.com
verdomd zeg, welke zenders zijn dat? waarom mis ik dat nou altijd?quote:I spent a week in The Hague (Holland) and TV is ful of hard core porn on just regular channels - even commercials.
I was sickened at the open, rampent sexual promiscuity and pornography. Despicable things seem to have been "normalized."
