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  vrijdag 20 mei 2005 @ 22:18:42 #26
86972 ScienceFriction
Kobe Bryant # 24
pi_27200446
Maar hoe is die Jabba nou zo dik geworden?
  vrijdag 20 mei 2005 @ 22:20:40 #27
56864 Marty26
#Dislectisch Baggeren _O_
pi_27200508
Why does Voyager Suck? Let me count the ways . . .

1. Unlikeable characters. The Powers that Be were sick of the conflict-free crew shtick from TNG, so they tried create grounds for contention between characters. They only succeeded in making some of the crew very unlikeable. Watching early Neelix was like listening to nails scratching slate, and Tuvok was written as petty and inept. Paris in Season 2 was a real jerk, and Janeway most of the time is not someone I would want to serve with (or be in the same room with).

2. Inconsistent tech - do the transwarp and quantum slipstream work or not? Is the holodeck on the same power as the rest of the ship or not? (Why you couldn't divert holodeck power to the rest of the ship in the first place is really beyond me, unless Torres isn't all she's cracked up to be).

3. Whole episodes carried by weak actors, like Garrett "I'm lost" Wang and Robert "sleepwalking" Beltran, as well as some really bad guest actors.

4. Inconsistancy and vagueness with regard to Chakotay's tribal identity. I thought because it was Star Trek that the writers would try to do an authentic job. Boy, was I wrong.

5. Bad, derivative, clichéd writing. Hey guys, you're burnt out - step aside and let some fresh blood do the writing.

6. Bad science.

7. Ignoring initial premises, like Maquis crewmembers not fitting in with Starfleet, lack of support, limited photon torpedoes, replicators rationed, Kes' short lifespan and consequent rapid development, etc.

8. Awful aliens - Kazon, Malon, Hirogen, foreheads of the week. Either their culture makes no sense, or they're so by the books they don't even get a name. How about ALIEN aliens, since we're here in the Delta quadrant. Not just black hats and white hats. Had my fill of those back in TNG.

9. Brannon Braga, chief hack.

10. Lack of ethical principles. Is this really ST anymore? No one seems to understand the prime directive. Janeway's morals change from week to week. Hey, B5 had some immoral and even evil characters, and Sheridan gets pretty shady after his death, but at least they were consistent AND there was a sense of greater moral truth, in spite of human corruption.

11. Holodeck tech makes no sense - how can Doc leave the ship when his medical databanks are in the ship's computer? How the hell do you "download" a computer program into a holomatrix anyway? And if you do download it, wouldn't you have a backup automatically, (albeit with a seperate memory of events past the download)?

12. Vulcan-bashing, etc. The Klingon-bashing is (somewhat) understandable because of Torres' mixed feelings about her Klingon heritage, but insulting Tuvok on account of his race (this happened a *lot* in the first three seasons) seems really over the line.

13. Triskadekaphobia. Hah, hah, just fooling. The final reason is: they ruined the Borg!


er zitten zelfs foutjes in het schip stelletje nep nerds
Paxlie says: nu ben ik zo vervuld van geluk omdat jij via de digitale snelweg weer bij me bent O+
pi_27200524
quote:
Op vrijdag 20 mei 2005 22:10 schreef ScienceFriction het volgende:
Star Whores is ook leuk
Of storewars.

http://www.storewars.org/flash/index.html
Geloven is zeker weten dat je het niet weet.
Geloven maakt meer kapot dan je lief is.
Vloeken is aangeleerd...geloven ook.
  vrijdag 20 mei 2005 @ 22:21:57 #29
86972 ScienceFriction
Kobe Bryant # 24
pi_27200546
quote:
Op vrijdag 20 mei 2005 22:20 schreef Marty26 het volgende:
The final reason is: they ruined the Borg!
Ja... Anakin had niet van de Borg mogen winnen tijdens die race in deel 4...
  vrijdag 20 mei 2005 @ 22:23:22 #30
56864 Marty26
#Dislectisch Baggeren _O_
pi_27200584
quote:
Op vrijdag 20 mei 2005 22:21 schreef wonko het volgende:

[..]

Of storewars.

http://www.storewars.org/flash/index.html
Paxlie says: nu ben ik zo vervuld van geluk omdat jij via de digitale snelweg weer bij me bent O+
  vrijdag 20 mei 2005 @ 22:23:47 #31
56864 Marty26
#Dislectisch Baggeren _O_
pi_27200600
quote:
Op vrijdag 20 mei 2005 22:21 schreef ScienceFriction het volgende:

[..]

Ja... Anakin had niet van de Borg mogen winnen tijdens die race in deel 4...
wrom niet hij racede harder
Paxlie says: nu ben ik zo vervuld van geluk omdat jij via de digitale snelweg weer bij me bent O+
  vrijdag 20 mei 2005 @ 22:24:10 #32
35415 nightfall
sickminded
pi_27200613
quote:
Op vrijdag 20 mei 2005 22:18 schreef ScienceFriction het volgende:
Maar hoe is die Jabba nou zo dik geworden?
van het zuipen van dat duivelse gele aardse goedje
  vrijdag 20 mei 2005 @ 22:24:58 #33
86972 ScienceFriction
Kobe Bryant # 24
pi_27200636
quote:
Op vrijdag 20 mei 2005 22:23 schreef Marty26 het volgende:

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wrom niet hij racede harder
Ja maar... Captain Kirk had de Borg zeepkist onklaar gemaakt met tritertiair shifting deficiency...
  vrijdag 20 mei 2005 @ 22:25:03 #34
22754 Steve-O
Sarcasm-O
pi_27200640
Net zoals de matrix ook zo'n nergens opslaande film
I'm sick of all this pooping stuff i'm getting my buttcheeks pierced together .
  vrijdag 20 mei 2005 @ 22:25:19 #35
86972 ScienceFriction
Kobe Bryant # 24
pi_27200645
quote:
Op vrijdag 20 mei 2005 22:24 schreef nightfall het volgende:

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van het zuipen van dat duivelse gele aardse goedje
mayonaise?
  vrijdag 20 mei 2005 @ 22:26:09 #36
35415 nightfall
sickminded
pi_27200676
films zijn sowiezo kut,. allemaal tijdverspilling om naar die onzin te kijken,. de'r moet gewoon weer meer geneukt worden, net zoals vroeger..
pi_27200689
quote:
Op vrijdag 20 mei 2005 22:25 schreef Steve-O het volgende:
Net zoals de matrix ook zo'n nergens opslaande film
Je snapte em dus niet
  vrijdag 20 mei 2005 @ 22:27:20 #38
35415 nightfall
sickminded
pi_27200704
quote:
Op vrijdag 20 mei 2005 22:25 schreef ScienceFriction het volgende:

[..]

mayonaise?
nee starwarsnerd,. pis.
nou goed..
  vrijdag 20 mei 2005 @ 22:28:12 #39
86972 ScienceFriction
Kobe Bryant # 24
pi_27200731
quote:
Op vrijdag 20 mei 2005 22:27 schreef nightfall het volgende:

[..]

nee starwarsnerd,. pis.
nou goed..
oh... okay... ochtendurine dus...

Ik dacht dat jabba geheelonthouder was...
  vrijdag 20 mei 2005 @ 22:29:00 #40
56864 Marty26
#Dislectisch Baggeren _O_
pi_27200756
quote:
Op vrijdag 20 mei 2005 22:24 schreef ScienceFriction het volgende:

[..]

Ja maar... Captain Kirk had de Borg zeepkist onklaar gemaakt met tritertiair shifting deficiency...
Oooh dat is zo een slangetje toch?
Paxlie says: nu ben ik zo vervuld van geluk omdat jij via de digitale snelweg weer bij me bent O+
pi_27200772
Slotje
pi_27200779
quote:
Op vrijdag 20 mei 2005 22:20 schreef Marty26 het volgende:
Why does Voyager Suck? Let me count the ways . . .

1. Unlikeable characters. The Powers that Be were sick of the conflict-free crew shtick from TNG, so they tried create grounds for contention between characters. They only succeeded in making some of the crew very unlikeable. Watching early Neelix was like listening to nails scratching slate, and Tuvok was written as petty and inept. Paris in Season 2 was a real jerk, and Janeway most of the time is not someone I would want to serve with (or be in the same room with).

2. Inconsistent tech - do the transwarp and quantum slipstream work or not? Is the holodeck on the same power as the rest of the ship or not? (Why you couldn't divert holodeck power to the rest of the ship in the first place is really beyond me, unless Torres isn't all she's cracked up to be).

3. Whole episodes carried by weak actors, like Garrett "I'm lost" Wang and Robert "sleepwalking" Beltran, as well as some really bad guest actors.

4. Inconsistancy and vagueness with regard to Chakotay's tribal identity. I thought because it was Star Trek that the writers would try to do an authentic job. Boy, was I wrong.

5. Bad, derivative, clichéd writing. Hey guys, you're burnt out - step aside and let some fresh blood do the writing.

6. Bad science.

7. Ignoring initial premises, like Maquis crewmembers not fitting in with Starfleet, lack of support, limited photon torpedoes, replicators rationed, Kes' short lifespan and consequent rapid development, etc.

8. Awful aliens - Kazon, Malon, Hirogen, foreheads of the week. Either their culture makes no sense, or they're so by the books they don't even get a name. How about ALIEN aliens, since we're here in the Delta quadrant. Not just black hats and white hats. Had my fill of those back in TNG.

9. Brannon Braga, chief hack.

10. Lack of ethical principles. Is this really ST anymore? No one seems to understand the prime directive. Janeway's morals change from week to week. Hey, B5 had some immoral and even evil characters, and Sheridan gets pretty shady after his death, but at least they were consistent AND there was a sense of greater moral truth, in spite of human corruption.

11. Holodeck tech makes no sense - how can Doc leave the ship when his medical databanks are in the ship's computer? How the hell do you "download" a computer program into a holomatrix anyway? And if you do download it, wouldn't you have a backup automatically, (albeit with a seperate memory of events past the download)?

12. Vulcan-bashing, etc. The Klingon-bashing is (somewhat) understandable because of Torres' mixed feelings about her Klingon heritage, but insulting Tuvok on account of his race (this happened a *lot* in the first three seasons) seems really over the line.

13. Triskadekaphobia. Hah, hah, just fooling. The final reason is: they ruined the Borg!


er zitten zelfs foutjes in het schip stelletje nep nerds
Star Wars, Star Trek, ach, who's counting.

drugs are bad, mkay?
Big dick.
  vrijdag 20 mei 2005 @ 22:30:36 #43
67643 iDex
opdondertje
pi_27200807
marty niet fokken tijdens radio maken


ontopic:

star wars zuigt inderdaad
  vrijdag 20 mei 2005 @ 22:31:07 #44
56864 Marty26
#Dislectisch Baggeren _O_
pi_27200817
quote:
Op vrijdag 20 mei 2005 22:30 schreef iDex het volgende:
marty niet fokken tijdens radio maken


ontopic:

star wars zuigt inderdaad
Paxlie says: nu ben ik zo vervuld van geluk omdat jij via de digitale snelweg weer bij me bent O+
  vrijdag 20 mei 2005 @ 22:31:39 #45
35415 nightfall
sickminded
pi_27200833
quote:
Op vrijdag 20 mei 2005 22:29 schreef R_Style het volgende:
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scrabble spelen
  vrijdag 20 mei 2005 @ 22:31:58 #46
86972 ScienceFriction
Kobe Bryant # 24
pi_27200843
quote:
Op vrijdag 20 mei 2005 22:29 schreef Marty26 het volgende:

[..]

Oooh dat is zo een slangetje toch?
Ja... met zo'n lichtje... Anakin kreeg er één van 7 of 9... of was het 6 of 8... één van de kinderen van Björn Borg in elk geval...
  vrijdag 20 mei 2005 @ 22:32:18 #47
22754 Steve-O
Sarcasm-O
pi_27200854
quote:
Op vrijdag 20 mei 2005 22:26 schreef Bot13 het volgende:

[..]

Je snapte em dus niet
Zie ondertitel newbie
I'm sick of all this pooping stuff i'm getting my buttcheeks pierced together .
  vrijdag 20 mei 2005 @ 22:45:37 #48
56864 Marty26
#Dislectisch Baggeren _O_
pi_27201225
quote:
Op vrijdag 20 mei 2005 22:31 schreef ScienceFriction het volgende:

[..]

Ja... met zo'n lichtje... Anakin kreeg er één van 7 of 9... of was het 6 of 8... één van de kinderen van Björn Borg in elk geval...
Aaaah oke
Paxlie says: nu ben ik zo vervuld van geluk omdat jij via de digitale snelweg weer bij me bent O+
  vrijdag 20 mei 2005 @ 22:45:48 #49
20435 Dante_A
Multidisciplinair
pi_27201231
Liever elke anderhalve minuut een vliegtuig over mijn hoofd dan één keer in de week een draaiorgel in m'n straat.
Europeanen aller landen verenigt u.
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pi_27201257
Het lijkt mij wel een stoere film
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