[US2004] Bush vs Kerry -part 10-

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Op woensdag 20 oktober 2004 16:31 schreef Chewie het volgende:

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Elke peiling heeft een foutmarge.

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Op woensdag 20 oktober 2004 16:35 schreef freako het volgende:

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Klopt. Maar dan heeft zeggen dat ze al drie dagen gelijk staan ook niet zoveel nut. . In werkelijkheid zouden ze ook elke dag 3% (of 6%, gelden die foutenmarges voor het verschil of voor de afzonderlijke resultaten?) uit elkaar kunnen hebben gelegen.

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Op woensdag 20 oktober 2004 16:35 schreef freako het volgende:

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Klopt. Maar dan heeft zeggen dat ze al drie dagen gelijk staan ook niet zoveel nut. . In werkelijkheid zouden ze ook elke dag 3% (of 6%, gelden die foutenmarges voor het verschil of voor de afzonderlijke resultaten?) uit elkaar kunnen hebben gelegen.

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Op woensdag 20 oktober 2004 16:41 schreef corc het volgende:
Heeft iemand een werkende link naar het 'sinclair' verhaal? Over de anti-democratische film die niet/wel vertoond gaat worden?

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En weet iemand of Fahrenheit 9/11 nog op de Amerikaanse Nationale TV gaat komen, voor de verkiezingen? Ik las in de Metro dat die vertoning misschien geschrapt zou worden, maar zonder verdere info.

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Op woensdag 20 oktober 2004 17:27 schreef mr.marcus het volgende:
als Micheal Moore nou cool is, (en dat is ie soms best) geeft ie de rechten van die film gewoon gratis aan een paar zenders zodat ze hem voor de verkiezingen kunnen broadcasten

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Op woensdag 20 oktober 2004 17:37 schreef mr.marcus het volgende:
er zijn toch wel zenders die kerry steunen?

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er zijn toch wel zenders die kerry steunen?

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Op woensdag 20 oktober 2004 22:04 schreef Disorder het volgende:
Een leuk spel: Laat Bush zo recht mogelijk lopen na een flink aantal borrels.

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Artist: Eminem
Song: Mosh
Album: Encore

Lyrics :

[I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America
And to the Republic for which it stands
One nation under God
Indivisible・
It feels so good to be back..]

Scrutinize every word, memorize every line
I spit it once, refuel, reenergize, and rewind
I give sight to the blind, mind sight through the mind
I ostracize my right to express when I feel it's time
It's just all in your mind, what you interpret it as
I say to fight you take it as I知 gonna whip someone's ass
If you don't understand don't even bother to ask
A father who has grown up with a fatherless past
Who has blown up now to rap phenomenon that has
Or at least shows no difficulty multi task
And juggling both, perhaps mastered his craft slash
Entrepreneur who has held long too few more rap acts
Who has had a few obstacles thrown his way through the last half
Of his career typical manure moving past that
Mister kiss his ass crack, he's a class act
Rubber band man, yea he just snaps back

Come along, follow me as I lead through the darkness
As I provide just enough spark, that we need to proceed
Carry on, give me hope, give me strength,
Come with me, and I won't stear you wrong
Put your faith and your trust as I guide us through the fog
Till the light, at the end, of the tunnel, we gonna fight,
We gonna charge, we gonna stomp, we gonna march through the swamp
We gonna mosh through the marsh, take us right through the doors

To the people up top, on the side and the middle,
Come together, let's all bomb and swamp just a little
Just let it gradually build, from the front to the back
All you can see is a sea of people, some white and some black
Don't matter what color, all that matters is we gathered together
To celebrate for the same cause, no matter the weather
If it rains let it rain, yea the wetter the better
They ain't gonna stop us, they can't, we're stronger now more then ever,
They tell us no we say yea, they tell us stop we say go,
Rebel with a rebel yell, raise hell we gonna let em know
Stomp, push up, mush, fuck Bush, until they bring our troops home come on just . . .

Come along, follow me as I lead through the darkness
As I provide just enough spark, that we need to proceed
Carry on, give me hope, give me strength,
Come with me, and I won't stear you wrong
Put your faith and your trust as I guide us through the fog
Till the light, at the end, of the tunnel, we gonna fight,
We gonna charge, we gonna stomp, we gonna march through the swamp
We gonna mosh through the marsh, take us right through the doors, come on

Imagine it pouring, it's raining down on us,
Mosh pits outside the oval office
Someone's trying to tell us something, maybe this is God just saying
we're responsible for this monster, this coward, that we have empowered
This is Bin Laden, look at his head nodding,
How could we allow something like this, Without pumping our fist
Now this is our, final hour
Let me be the voice, and your strength, and your choice
Let me simplify the rhyme, just to amplify the noise
Try to amplify the times it, and multiply it by six
Teen million people are equal of this high pitch
Maybe we can reach Al Quaida through my speech
Let the President answer on high anarchy
Strap him with AK-47, let him go
Fight his own war, let him impress daddy that way
No more blood for oil, we got our own battles to fight on our soil
No more psychological warfare to trick us to think that we ain't loyal
If we don't serve our own country we're patronizing a hero
Look in his eyes, it's all lies, the stars and stripes
They've been swiped, washed out and wiped,
And Replaced with his own face, mosh now or die
If I get sniped tonight you'll know why, because I told you to fight

So come along, follow me as I lead through the darkness
As I provide just enough spark, that we need to proceed
Carry on, give me hope, give me strength,
Come with me, and I won't stear you wrong
Put your faith and your trust as I guide us through the fog
Till the light, at the end, of the tunnel, we gonna fight,
We gonna charge, we gonna stomp, we gonna march through the swamp
We gonna mosh through the marsh, take us right through the doors

[Eminem speaking angrily]
And as we proceed, to mosh through this desert storm, in these closing statements, if they should argue, let us beg to differ, as we set aside our differences, and assemble our own army, to disarm this weapon of mass destruction that we call our president, for the present, and mosh for the future of our next generation, to speak and be heard, Mr. President, Mr. Senator

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Op woensdag 20 oktober 2004 22:42 schreef Speth het volgende:
Alles wat in rapvorm wordt uitgedragen is sowieso hysterische nonsens

Consider the source...

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20/10 Moslimraad VS onthoudt zich van stemadvies

De overkoepelende Amerikaanse Moslim Taakgroep, waarin tal van grote islamitische organisaties in de Verenigde Staten zijn vertegenwoordigd, geeft zijn achterban dit jaar vermoedelijk geen stemadvies.

Later deze week neemt de organisatie een definitief besluit. Zowel de Democraat John Kerry als de Republikein George Bush aast op de stemmen van de moslims, die een aanzienlijke bevolkingsgroep vormen. Vier jaar geleden adviseerde de raad zijn achterban om op Bush te stemmen.

Toen die na de terreuraanslagen van 11 september 2001 antiterreurmaatregelen invoerde die volgens moslims hun grondwettelijke rechten schonden, liet de raad weten spijt te hebben van dat advies.

Over Kerry is de raad ook niet positief. Die zou tot nu toe te weinig hebben laten zien dat hij de rechten van Amerikaanse moslims wel zal bewaken in de strijd tegen het terrorisme. Toch ziet volgens analisten 75 tot 80 procent van de moslimbevolking meer in Kerry dan in Bush.

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As Campaign 2004 entered its home stretch, we asked a variety of policy wonks, journalists, thinkers, and other public figures in the reason universe to reveal for whom they are voting this fall, for whom they pulled the lever last time around, their most embarrassing presidential vote, and their favorite president of all time.

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James Bovard

Bovard is author of The Bush Betrayal (Palgrave Macmillan) and seven other books.

2004 vote: I will probably vote for Badnarik, the Libertarian Party candidate. Both of the major-party candidates brazenly flaunt their contempt for the U.S. Constitution. Regardless of who wins in November, the U.S. likely will have a lousy president for the next four years.

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Drew Carey

Carey stars in Drew Carey?s Green Screen Show, beginning October 7 on the WB.

2004 vote: Quit pretending that it matters, would you? Can you vote for all the nefarious cabals that really run the world? No. So fuck it.

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Steve Chapman

Chapman is a columnist and editorial writer for the Chicago Tribune.

2004 vote: I haven?t decided between John Kerry and Michael Badnarik. I have only the dimmest hopes for a Kerry presidency, but I think Bush has to be held accountable for Iraq, the worst foreign policy blunder since Vietnam, and the accelerated growth of the federal government.

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Glenn Garvin

Contributing Editor Garvin, author of Everybody Had His Own Gringo: The CIA and the Contras (Brassey?s), writes about television for The Miami Herald.

2004 vote: I live in Florida. My votes are randomly assigned based on the interaction of our voting machines, the Miami-Dade Election Commission, and passing UFOs.

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Robert A. George

George is a New York Post columnist, West Indian Catholic stand-up comic, and recovering Republican flunky.

2004 vote: Living in a maximum blue state allows me to vote my conscience. Rather than vote for an entitlement-expanding, tariff-imposing, deficit-increasing, big-government Johnson Republican or an entitlement-expanding, tariff-imposing, tax-increasing, big-government Nixon Democrat, I will vote for Libertarian Party candidate Michael Badnarik.

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Robert Higgs

Higgs is a senior fellow in political economy at the Independent Institute and author, most recently, of Against Leviathan (Independent Institute).

2004 vote: I never vote. I don?t wish to soil my hands.

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Penn Jillette

Jillette is the larger, louder half of the comedy/magic team Penn & Teller and star of Showtime?s Penn & Teller: Bullshit!

2004 vote: I?m undecided (always the stupidest position). I might do the moral thing and not vote at all, or do the sensible thing and vote Libertarian (Badnarik, right?), or I might make 100 bucks from my buddy Tony and vote for Bush. (I told Tony that Bush and Kerry were exactly the same, and he bet me 100 bucks that I didn?t believe that enough to really truly vote for Bush.) But if you want to be pragmatic, I?m in Nevada, so who cares?

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P.J. O?Rourke

O?Rourke is H.L. Mencken Research Fellow at the Cato Institute and author, most recently, of Peace Kills (Atlantic Monthly Press).

2004 vote: George W. Bush, because I don?t want Johnnie Cochran on the Supreme Court.

2000 vote: George W. Bush. (I always vote Republican because Republicans have fewer ideas. Although, in the case of George W., not fewer enough.)

Most embarrassing vote: A 1968 write-in for "Chairman Meow," my girlfriend?s cat. It seemed very funny at the time. As I mentioned, this was 1968.

Favorite president: Calvin Coolidge -- why say more?

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Op woensdag 20 oktober 2004 17:27 schreef mr.marcus het volgende:
als Micheal Moore nou cool is, (en dat is ie soms best) geeft ie de rechten van die film gewoon gratis aan een paar zenders zodat ze hem voor de verkiezingen kunnen broadcasten

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Op woensdag 20 oktober 2004 23:57 schreef Verbal het volgende:
Hij heeft een deal met een aantal videotheek-ketens die het ding gratis uitlenen, geloof ik.

V.

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Op woensdag 20 oktober 2004 23:49 schreef Monolith het volgende:
En speciaal voor z'n fan:

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Op donderdag 21 oktober 2004 00:05 schreef PJORourke het volgende:

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Michael Moore zou best wel eens meer stemmen voor Bush kunnen opleveren.