Organisation of Visiting Races III

Iplover

You didn't do anything "wrong" and I see no reason for you to leave just because of a request to stay on topic.

I've seen the movie The Secret.NASA.Transmissions.The.Smoking.Gun today, and I must say I was impressed.
So many "spheres" seeming to keep an eye on us ...
When & what will the next step be ?

Hai, UncleScorp

I didn't see that movie.

What I understand about what the alien races are doing is increasing sightings and awareness. There are a number of steps to that but all increasing to a point that "we" get to, when we will be sufficiently prepared to accept open contact.

Do you recommend that everyone watch that movie? And what do you feel we can all get out of it?

Does everyone has to watch that movie ?
I dunno, most people are just too sceptical about everything, so they won't believe this either.
You can't see an alien waving at the camera ...
You just see a lot of unexplainable lights and spheres around everything we do in space ...
The movie comes from someone who has recorded the full flights of all shuttles in the past years, and he examined everything, and found these things we cant explain.

So "we" got to be prepared for the visit ... will we ever be enough prepared ?
Someone on the video said it too : "We are not children ... if there is anything out there, we need to know ..."

Lets assume we are getting some visitors in the near future. How do you propose we prepare for that? There are billions of people on this sphere that do not regularly watch CNN, trawl the internet for information on funny glowy thingies in the sky or have governments that or known for their forthcomingness with information.

I would go as far as to say that 75% of the population of planet earth has never seen the X-files or independance day and never got onto the roswell bandwagon. THey see funny lights in the sky and they don't think 'ALIENS', they merely think 'hey, funny lights'.

This is including the Chinese. The lucky few in the major cities would probably benefit from the efford, but the majority on them lives in the back country, planting rice and generaly being oppressed. It matters little if a goverment group turns your valley into a lake or a funny light in the sky keeps taking your cattle.

In other words, preparation is a relative thing. If the object is to prevent mass hysteria or even agrresive respons then they are targetting a very very minor part of the populus. Granted, it is the part in control of the nuclear weapons, but still.

I personally don't believe we get off world visitors any time soon. I do believe other intelligent life is out there, somewhere (as a statistician I have to) but other than a dubious radio blib I don't think we'll see any major development in this field.

I am however more than willing to entertain the notion as a given fact and going from that does not as such impress me. We never see HUGE funny thingies, only relatively small ones. We never see anything we truely cannot explain, just things we do not appear to be able to reproduce at this time with our current technology and understanding of the laws of physics. All the anomalies are also earth based. They never happen way out there in deep space, they always happen in farmer Green's spring corn or near items (satelites) or installations that are mysterious in their own right.

Whenever something really funky happens in deep space, we always explain it as another wonderful miracle of space and proceed to formulate a theory that fits. It's always something extremely complicated with blackholes and such. It's never a spaceship venting used propulsion sources.

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Op zondag 10 oktober 2004 16:24 schreef lplover het volgende:

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I'm so so so very sorry!!! This was totally not my meaning, it just happens to me every time. Guess I should leave now, nice to have met you Nancy and everyone, I've learned a lot, but it was not meant to be. Oh, and yes I already have a schrink, thank you.
Bye everyone!!! *cries and leaves thread*

Oh Mah Gawd, worse then i thought.

I just asked to stay on topic instead of turning this thread into a personal problem thread, I just dont find it interesting but i do find this topic interesting and i didnt ask u to leave now did i?

Ontopic: Dont know if this question is asked before but do u know anything about alien crafts on how they (kinda) work? DId u hear anything from ur alien friends about how their flying technique works? I read something about pulses of electricity going over a the outside of the craft making a twirling movement and thus creating a spot in the middle of the craft of anti gravity.

Anything familiar with you?

2NutZ

I don't know about pulses of electricity going over the outside of a craft making twirling movements, as you describe, but I would not rule it out by your description. I only know a little about how the alien races travel.

Here is a paste from another forum where I answered similar questions. I know these things directly from my alien contacts, not from any other source. (I may have already pasted this earlier in this thread.)

>>So, how do they get here?<<

The alien individuals fly here in their crafts with their respective working crews. They use large crafts for long distance traveling, and park them outside our atmosphere to live in, and use smaller shuttle crafts to approach the surface of our planet from the larger crafts. For short distances between close worlds, they simply fly straight the way we think of it at a high rate of speed. For vast distances, they cross into another dimension to fly the same course to the same place at the same high speed, but at a greater value of time.

>>What form of energy do they use to propel themselves?<<

As many different advanced races as there are, use a different main method of propulsion. The same as we mine for our natural power sources such as coal and oil, others mine for their own elements. Their methods are advanced and refined to last a very long time. Sometimes the power source is so efficient and stable that it outlives the craft and is replaced in a new craft a number of times before it has become ineffective. Some of the most advanced power sources are self-contained and recycle themselves with no waste. One of our visiting race's ships have panels that catch light like a sailboat catches wind.

All of the crafts are equipped for safety with backup systems which utilize the surrounding sources of energy, including electromagnetic light and dust particles, as light travels on dust and vice versa. (Light, dust and electromagnetism are all one source of energy.) The energy is absorbed and converted or synthesized by sensors constructed into the structure of the crafts. If a craft's main energy source were to fail in deep space far away from any backup source of energy, the aliens would be in trouble.

EarthSister
http://www.TheProjectAtEarth.com

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why are they here?

quote:Op zaterdag 2 oktober 2004 22:55 schreef Tatie het volgende:
Dear Earthsister,

Why are the aliens so intrested in us, and why do they want to help us


Greets Tatie.
Hai, Tatie

We are one race of many races of people. We are one of all of them. We are all the same kind, sharing this space and evolution. We are family and friends who belong together.

Understand that this is hard to fathom for such a young, egotistical, hostilely defensive race of people who have not even united their own countries yet.

EarthSister
http://www.TheProjectAtEarth.com

When will this happen?--------my question

displission

It will happen when we are ready "enough" as a race for the other races to be sufficiently welcomed and the procession to be productive.

I don't know when, except as the leaders of the organization say, soon.

When do you think we will be ready? What things do you suppose need to be in place on Earth before we will be ready?

I would like to hear everyone's opinions on this.

Who decides if we are ready ?
1. the aliens ?
2. our leaders ?
3. the people ?

I think the aliens have the best inside view of our whole world at once and will know when we are ready by what we have in place. They know all the secrets and motivations of each country and its main players. They also know the individuals who work with alien life who are moving up into place.

It is clear to me that it's a group effort between everyone, whether we realize or see it or not. It is only the separation we have between our govts and our publics that keep us uninformed and misinformed. There are a lot more things going on than we know about.

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Op maandag 11 oktober 2004 12:23 schreef stigchel het volgende:
I am however more than willing to entertain the notion as a given fact and going from that does not as such impress me. We never see HUGE funny thingies, only relatively small ones. We never see anything we truely cannot explain, just things we do not appear to be able to reproduce at this time with our current technology and understanding of the laws of physics. All the anomalies are also earth based. They never happen way out there in deep space, they always happen in farmer Green's spring corn or near items (satelites) or installations that are mysterious in their own right.

play this at 25 speed or something
well in normal playing mode its nice to watch too though
but i'm convinced at a high rate playing mode there are at least 4 objects clearly visible that are not imitating normal satelites or ice particles

http://perso.club-internet.fr/netpat/video/sts80-1.mpeg

unless ice particles learned to defy a couple of laws

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Op dinsdag 12 oktober 2004 16:11 schreef EarthSister het volgende:
When do you think we will be ready?

When I look into my crystal ball it says about 200 years, give or take a few decades . When looking at history I would say at least another millenia (maybe 2) if humanity survives it's own violence ofcourse.

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What things do you suppose need to be in place on Earth before we will be ready?

I think we're gonna need a lot of mental health institutions. Oh wait, we already need those now haha
I guess a lot of people would go nuts when they hear on the news aliens have landed. Paranoia will break out, people who are different are suspected to be aliens with bad intentions and probably lynched. It gives people already frustrated [fill one of 1000 possibilities to be frustrated in this world] a good reason to join together and unleash their angers on people they didn't like anyway.
In some countries aliens will be proclaimed as devils/demons sent by Satan and the religious followers should kill them (along with those nations associating with them, preferably by nuking the country). At best we'll see a lot of looting and martial laws. Oh and they'll be fueled by all the nuts (as a direct result of people freaking out by the thought aliens exist) who will run about screaming the end of the world is nigh and reciting biblical prophecies. Did I mention the mass suicides as another big result from people's view of reality being distorted so badly they can't handle their new found reality? They won't do it organized, they'll just run off a high building or drink and use medicine. A lot of people will step forward and act as a leader figure, who will have a lot of people wanting to believe in a person who apparantly "knows it all" when they are lost themselves. Those groups will go on rampage, possibly against aliens (ofcourse those leaders have read extensively on reptilians and those fear based theories). America will see the worst, because as we all know that's where the most nutcases live (not meaning you Nancy ) and worst of all most of those nutcases will have a good reason to finally use all those guns and ammo they've got stored up since the end of the cold war.

Nope, if I was an alien I would just float about contacting individuals, but I'd never set foot on this planet or show in public when there are so many weapons and nutcases. So I'd wait until the next few worldwars and (in case humanity survives) just pray humanity will ever learn to abandon violence by themselves. Too bad for the project but we can always start from scratch (again)

sorry if this is a depressing prediction but what do you expect? Rainbow's everywhere, people singing "halleluja" going on the streets, happy? Everyone united as one race and one religion? Shifts in governments and people in high places? I don't think so, I think it's like dropping a huge bomb of fear on the population, people who do not know what to expect and only have references to Hollywood movies and existing theories about aliens (which are almost all negative) and people have a tendency to react with aggression when confronted by the unknown.

stigchel

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I am however more than willing to entertain the notion as a given fact and going from that does not as such impress me. We never see HUGE funny thingies, only relatively small ones. We never see anything we truely cannot explain, just things we do not appear to be able to reproduce at this time with our current technology and understanding of the laws of physics. All the anomalies are also earth based. They never happen way out there in deep space, they always happen in farmer Green's spring corn or near items (satelites) or installations that are mysterious in their own right.

Whenever something really funky happens in deep space, we always explain it as another wonderful miracle of space and proceed to formulate a theory that fits. It's always something extremely complicated with blackholes and such. It's never a spaceship venting used propulsion sources.

Apply consideration of the filters of control of what you think and see and hear of all alien "things" here. There is careful, dubious control by both the alien races and by Earth leaders.

I mean-- apply their simultaneous control to every aspect to get a more true perception of why we see so little of what is actually happening, and why our perceptions are so bogus by the time any material reaches our consideration.

The_Shining

Great answers! I've shared your views and admit a sense of futile desperation at times.

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sorry if this is a depressing prediction but what do you expect? Rainbow's everywhere, people singing "halleluja" going on the streets, happy? Everyone united as one race and one religion? Shifts in governments and people in high places? I don't think so, I think it's like dropping a huge bomb of fear on the population, people who do not know what to expect and only have references to Hollywood movies and existing theories about aliens (which are almost all negative) and people have a tendency to react with aggression when confronted by the unknown.

My hope and belief is at somewhere in the middle of these two extremes. I will save the perfection for another stage of existence, but no doubt change across a world takes time. Things about us can only move as fast as we can move them. Humanity needs and deserves peace. Peace is not a fairy tale, it is a living reality actively denied us by our leaders' way of running our world.

My hope for humanity is encouraged by my personal witnessing that all the other races who are visiting us have done it- survived and overcome their own "evils" of early development. Exactly how we will come to acquire their assistance where it is so desperately needed, I don't know. But what I feel in my heart and soul is that if we do not make ourselves organized in large numbers and put to use the tools to accomplish it, I will still continue to dig with my bare hands until this mountain is moved.

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Op dinsdag 12 oktober 2004 16:11 schreef EarthSister het volgende:
When do you think we will be ready? What things do you suppose need to be in place on Earth before we will be ready?

I would like to hear everyone's opinions on this.

First of all Earthsister there must be a plan and in this plan a date is written? On this day things will happen. What is soon? Give me a month or even a year.

Secondly Earthsister and I don't wanna be rude but I still believe my watch is an UFO

I 'don't expect you to answer or even give comment on the last sentence but maybe you can add a little bit of light to this whole coversation by saying what month and then even I can see if you are correct. You can ask the "aliens" when? What month? And if they say 2005 we'll hear it.

Sorry, displission. I don't have the time frame from the alien races of when they will show up to everyone except "soon" and that's the way they want it to be.

I don't think the alien races even know exactly when. They don't control everything, and they can't make things get into place here. They can only help and watch to see the time approaching by the strings and orders of events over our history.

I am sure the alien races have a much better idea of when they intend to show up openly besides just "soon" but they are not going to tell me what it is.

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Op dinsdag 12 oktober 2004 21:58 schreef EarthSister het volgende:
I am sure the alien races have a much better idea of when they intend to show up openly besides just "soon" but they are not going to tell me what it is.

why is that you think

A reminder:

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Op woensdag 25 augustus 2004 23:27 schreef EarthSister het volgende:

When the aliens are going to show themselves, I do not know, except as they say "soon." Soon, when they say it, means to me "before much changes."

I suspect any day now to maybe as long as 10 years. But I think it will be much sooner than 10 years. I have asked them when, and they do not even know exactly yet, and will not give me any time frame for it. I can only guess by what I see happening both with the alien races and with the human race.

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Op dinsdag 12 oktober 2004 22:32 schreef Price het volgende:
A reminder:
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was this for me? if it was, you didnt understand my question.
what i meant was why the aliens dont tell her a estimated date

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Op maandag 11 oktober 2004 13:26 schreef 2NutZ het volgende:

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Oh Mah Gawd, worse then i thought.

I just asked to stay on topic instead of turning this thread into a personal problem thread, I just dont find it interesting but i do find this topic interesting and i didnt ask u to leave now did i?

Ontopic: Dont know if this question is asked before but do u know anything about alien crafts on how they (kinda) work? DId u hear anything from ur alien friends about how their flying technique works? I read something about pulses of electricity going over a the outside of the craft making a twirling movement and thus creating a spot in the middle of the craft of anti gravity.

Anything familiar with you?

No you didn't, I'm sorry I overreacted. I just got sad and I didn't want to post here anymore, but know I've read what you all said I feel much better Sometimes I posted things that I thought "why did I post this? No-one cares." but I just wanted to know what Nancy thought about it, cause she seems so nice and smart. I PROMISE I'll never talk about me again!!! I'm sorry I (trek me dingen te veel aan) dunno how to say that in English, I just feel hurt too soon. But don't worry I feel good again and will try to post somethings here again (ONTOPPIC!!!). I'll follow the conversation, don't have anything to ask right now. But I'm glad you all still want me to be here, I feared you were glad I was gone.

That's what I wanted to say

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Op dinsdag 12 oktober 2004 22:48 schreef P8 het volgende:

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was this for me? if it was, you didnt understand my question.
what i meant was why the aliens dont tell her a estimated date

Oh, now I understand your question, but my post wasn't meant for you in particular.

My presumption of your question's meaning was far more interesting: What she thinks the better idea will be? Is it based on a future event, like a coming war? In that case, the other races know what will happen in the future.

P8

The information they give me is safe for me to have and to speak openly about. If I was any threat to anybody or to "national security" I would not be free to speak.

There are many things I ask the alien races that they cannot tell me. Some even seemingly harmless details, if I had them, would indicate my value to some Earth authorities as a kind of target.

I teach by just helping to explain things to interested people. I help broaden public thinking. Most of all, I help individual alien experiencers understand their alien contacts and what is happening to them in their lives. I "need" to remain free to speak to do what I do. It doesn't hurt me or my work to be generally viewed as unsubstanciated.

If you or somebody you care about have an advanced kind of a personal alien experience and were confused and scared and needed somebody to help you sort it out, you would want to talk with somebody like me. At that point, you would want to gain understanding, not evidence.

Certainly you might end up talking with some other kind of professional person instead, such as through an abductee support group. If so, likely what you learn from them would take you further away from where you are trying to get with your alien contacts.

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btw .. earthsister .. thanks again for being here and sharing this info
i dont know if we said it half as much as we should but well
i think its great your taking the time to respond to all the questions

Hi ,

do you know anything about a relation between 21 December 2012, aliens and the earth? That date is discussed for a long time now, but we wonder what it could mean.
I had another question but I guess I forgot .

Grtz, Steven.