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en dit dus.quote:Op donderdag 20 mei 2004 18:52 schreef CherrymoonTraxx het volgende:
De oorzaak dat de Palestijnen het zo slecht hebben is toch vooral de corrupte Arafat en z'n corrupte vriendjes.
Hopen dat Israel Al-Aqsa met harde hand uitroeit, maar daar heb ik alle vertrouwen in. Wel moet de VS even op het matje geroepen worden want VN-resoluties tegen Israel dienen natuurlijk gevetoed te worden!
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The camera always points both ways. In expressing the subject, you also express yourself.
Bron: Haaretzquote:Militants in the Gaza Strip vowed on Thursday to kidnap Israeli soldiers and exchange them for West Bank Tanzim leader Marwan Barghouti following his conviction at the Tel Aviv District Court in the murder of five people in terror attacks.
A Gaza leader of the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades - an armed faction of Palestinian Authority Chairman Yasser Arafat's Fatah movement - said the group would make abducting soldiers its "top priority."
Hadash MK Mohammed Barakeh said after leaving the Tel Aviv courthouse that the trial was political and called Barghouti the Palestinian leader.
"Barghouti will be released, and those who imprisoned him will eventually have to hold negotiations with him, because he is the leader of the Palestinian people," said Barakeh.
Justice Minister Yosef Lapid said Israel might consider putting Arafat on trial following Thursday's conviction.
"After the verdict we may have to consider putting Arafat on trial one of these days," Lapid said, adding that Israel had not brought Arafat to trial already because it did not want to prosecute public figures.
A senior Israeli source later said there were no immediate plans for prosecuting Arafat.
Palestinian adviser Nabil Abu Rudeineh said the allegations against Arafat in the court's verdict were "unfounded and baseless," and were "a pretext to continue (Israel's) escalation and threats" against the PA Chairman.
A spokesman for Foreign Minister Silvan Shalom, meanwhile, said Barghouti has been brought to justice.
"The five people who were killed in these attacks that he ordered will not return to life," said spokesman David Saranga. "The widows and orphans will not get their loved ones back. But at least justice was done."
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En als ze het slecht hebben zijn ze eerder bereid om zelfmoordaanslagen te plegen. Arafat hoeft enkel maar met vingertje naar Israël te wijzen en ondertussen steekt hij de centen in eigen zak. In feite is het pure minachting voor zijn volk.quote:Op donderdag 20 mei 2004 18:52 schreef CherrymoonTraxx het volgende:
De oorzaak dat de Palestijnen het zo slecht hebben is toch vooral de corrupte Arafat en z'n corrupte vriendjes.
Klopt ja. Hij kan de Palestijnen prima voor z'n karretje spannen door ze dom en arm te houden en intussen het geld in zijn eigen zak te steken.quote:Op donderdag 20 mei 2004 19:06 schreef schatje het volgende:
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En als ze het slecht hebben zijn ze eerder bereid om zelfmoordaanslagen te plegen. Arafat hoeft enkel maar met vingertje naar Israël te wijzen en ondertussen steekt hij de centen in eigen zak. In feite is het pure minachting voor zijn volk.
Overigens interesseren de omringende landen zich ook nauwelijks voor de Palestijnen zelf, het enige waar het ze om gaat is dat Israel daar moet verdwijnen.
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Klopt ja. Het intellectuelere deel van de palestijnen willen dat hij een gedeelte van zijn macht opgeeft om zo beter de dialoog met Israel te kunnen voeren.quote:Op donderdag 20 mei 2004 19:06 schreef schatje het volgende:
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En als ze het slecht hebben zijn ze eerder bereid om zelfmoordaanslagen te plegen. Arafat hoeft enkel maar met vingertje naar Israël te wijzen en ondertussen steekt hij de centen in eigen zak. In feite is het pure minachting voor zijn volk.
Maar Arafat weigert de macht over troepen en bestuur over te dragen.
Hierdoor houdt hij zijn eigen volk in gijzeling.
Maar ja wie is Arafat nu eigenlijk. Een egyptenaar.
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Voorzitter van Rabijnen:''Doden van burgers in Rafah toegestaan volgens de Torah''
Rabbi supports killings in Rafah
By Khalid Amayreh in the West Bank
Thursday 20 May 2004, 16:48 Makka Time, 13:48 GMT
Lior: Jewish lives more important than non-Jewish
A prominent rabbi has supported the killings of Palestinian civilians by Israeli occupation troops in the Gaza Strip, saying killing non-Jewish civilians is compatible with religious laws.
Rabbi Dov Lior, Chairman of the Jewish Rabbinical Council, was quoted as saying "during warfare, killing non-Jewish civilians is permitted if it saves Jewish lives".
According to Lior's ruling, which was made public on Wednesday, Israeli occupation troops in Gaza are allowed to kill and harm "so-called innocent civilians" during warfare.
"The law of our Torah is to have mercy on our soldiers and to save them. This is the real moral behind Israel's Torah and we must not feel guilty due to foreign morals," the Ma'ariv Israeli newspaper quoted him as saying.
He added that Jewish lives were more important than non-Jewish lives.
Extremist
Rabbi Lior is considered among the most learned sages of the Torah.
"Without any doubt, he is among the most learned scholars of the Torah, but he is viewed as an extremist among some liberal sectors," said Rabbi Menachem Froman from the Tku' settlement near Bethlehem.
"...a thousand non-Jewish lives are not worth a Jew's fingernail": Rabbi Dov Lior, Chairman of the Jewish Rabbinical Council
Froman said he did not agree with Lior's views, calling them controversial.
"I believe that Judaism is against killing innocent people. One of the main commandments of the Torah is 'thou shall not murder.'"
However, after speaking to many rabbis, it is clear that Lior's views and interpretation of Jewish Law enjoy far more popularity and acceptance than Froman’s relatively dovish interpretations.
The basic point of disagreement concerns whether Biblical injunctions apply equally to Jews and non-Jews.
Lior, like most of the rabbis of the Gush Emunim settler movement, believes that Biblical commandments such as "thou shall not murder" refer only to "Jews" since the Torah was given to Jews, not Gentiles.
This view, however, is rejected to varying degrees by the two main unorthodox Jewish sects - the Conservatives and the Reformists - who constitute a numerical majority of Jews outside Israel, especially in North America.
Settlers' rabbi
Dov Lior is considered a champion rabbi among settlers. In 1994, he strongly supported the murder by an American immigrant settler, Baruch Goldstein, of 29 Palestinian worshippers at the Ibrahimi Mosque.
Many children have been killed or injured in the Rafah onslaught
Lior then issued a religious edict, saying, "a thousand non-Jewish lives are not worth a Jew's fingernail".
Lior praised Goldstein, calling him a "great saint and rabbi … may his memory be blessed".
Several months after the massacre, Lior told disciples in Kiryat Araba near the occupied West Bank city of Hebron "Jewish blood was redder than non-Jewish blood … and that a Jewish life is preferred by the Lord than a non-Jewish life".
Silence
So far, the majority of Israeli religious leaders, including the two Grand Rabbis (one representing Western Jews 'Ashkenazim' and the other representing eastern Jews 'Tsfaradim') have refused to condemn or repudiate Lior's views.
Rabbi Froman suggested that because of Lior's deep knowledge of Jewish law, most rabbis refrain from challenging his understanding of the Torah and Talmud.
In fact, the official religious establishment, let alone Gush Eumunim rabbis, consistently supported whatever attacks carried out by the occupying army against Palestinian civilians.
Mirkaz Ha'rav officials in West Jerusalem (the main religious College where Dov Lior teaches) refused to comment on Lior's edict when contacted by Aljazeera.net.
Aljazeera
Bron: www.aljazeera.com
20/05/04
Nu zal elke zionist daar gehoor aan geven
Rabbi supports killings in Rafah
By Khalid Amayreh in the West Bank
Thursday 20 May 2004, 16:48 Makka Time, 13:48 GMT
Lior: Jewish lives more important than non-Jewish
A prominent rabbi has supported the killings of Palestinian civilians by Israeli occupation troops in the Gaza Strip, saying killing non-Jewish civilians is compatible with religious laws.
Rabbi Dov Lior, Chairman of the Jewish Rabbinical Council, was quoted as saying "during warfare, killing non-Jewish civilians is permitted if it saves Jewish lives".
According to Lior's ruling, which was made public on Wednesday, Israeli occupation troops in Gaza are allowed to kill and harm "so-called innocent civilians" during warfare.
"The law of our Torah is to have mercy on our soldiers and to save them. This is the real moral behind Israel's Torah and we must not feel guilty due to foreign morals," the Ma'ariv Israeli newspaper quoted him as saying.
He added that Jewish lives were more important than non-Jewish lives.
Extremist
Rabbi Lior is considered among the most learned sages of the Torah.
"Without any doubt, he is among the most learned scholars of the Torah, but he is viewed as an extremist among some liberal sectors," said Rabbi Menachem Froman from the Tku' settlement near Bethlehem.
"...a thousand non-Jewish lives are not worth a Jew's fingernail": Rabbi Dov Lior, Chairman of the Jewish Rabbinical Council
Froman said he did not agree with Lior's views, calling them controversial.
"I believe that Judaism is against killing innocent people. One of the main commandments of the Torah is 'thou shall not murder.'"
However, after speaking to many rabbis, it is clear that Lior's views and interpretation of Jewish Law enjoy far more popularity and acceptance than Froman’s relatively dovish interpretations.
The basic point of disagreement concerns whether Biblical injunctions apply equally to Jews and non-Jews.
Lior, like most of the rabbis of the Gush Emunim settler movement, believes that Biblical commandments such as "thou shall not murder" refer only to "Jews" since the Torah was given to Jews, not Gentiles.
This view, however, is rejected to varying degrees by the two main unorthodox Jewish sects - the Conservatives and the Reformists - who constitute a numerical majority of Jews outside Israel, especially in North America.
Settlers' rabbi
Dov Lior is considered a champion rabbi among settlers. In 1994, he strongly supported the murder by an American immigrant settler, Baruch Goldstein, of 29 Palestinian worshippers at the Ibrahimi Mosque.
Many children have been killed or injured in the Rafah onslaught
Lior then issued a religious edict, saying, "a thousand non-Jewish lives are not worth a Jew's fingernail".
Lior praised Goldstein, calling him a "great saint and rabbi … may his memory be blessed".
Several months after the massacre, Lior told disciples in Kiryat Araba near the occupied West Bank city of Hebron "Jewish blood was redder than non-Jewish blood … and that a Jewish life is preferred by the Lord than a non-Jewish life".
Silence
So far, the majority of Israeli religious leaders, including the two Grand Rabbis (one representing Western Jews 'Ashkenazim' and the other representing eastern Jews 'Tsfaradim') have refused to condemn or repudiate Lior's views.
Rabbi Froman suggested that because of Lior's deep knowledge of Jewish law, most rabbis refrain from challenging his understanding of the Torah and Talmud.
In fact, the official religious establishment, let alone Gush Eumunim rabbis, consistently supported whatever attacks carried out by the occupying army against Palestinian civilians.
Mirkaz Ha'rav officials in West Jerusalem (the main religious College where Dov Lior teaches) refused to comment on Lior's edict when contacted by Aljazeera.net.
Aljazeera
Bron: www.aljazeera.com
20/05/04
Nu zal elke zionist daar gehoor aan geven
Schijt aan iedereen
Wat een idioot. Maar vergeet niet dat het doden van 'ongelovigen' ook wordt toegestaan volgens de koran .quote:Op vrijdag 21 mei 2004 00:33 schreef Deadre het volgende:
Voorzitter van Rabijnen:''Doden van burgers in Rafah toegestaan volgens de Torah''
Rabbi supports killings in Rafah
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Op zaterdag 5 maart 2005 19:55
Moet je je voorstellen dat zo'n beetje een kwart van de criminelen 'Jezus' zou heten. Werkelijk een schande voor je religie :D.
Moet je je voorstellen dat zo'n beetje een kwart van de criminelen 'Jezus' zou heten. Werkelijk een schande voor je religie :D.
Is dat zo?quote:Op vrijdag 21 mei 2004 00:35 schreef Dora_van_Crizadak het volgende:
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Wat een idioot. Maar vergeet niet dat het doden van 'ongelovigen' ook wordt toegestaan volgens de koran .
Dan wil wel graag de bron ervan zien, dan wel 1tje in zn context aub.
Schijt aan iedereen
quote:Israel Begins Partial Troop Pullout in Gaza-Sources
RAFAH, Gaza Strip (Reuters) - Israel on Friday began a partial troop pullout from the Gaza refugee camp it rolled into with massive force three days ago, Palestinians and security sources said.
The United States has pressed Israel to get out of Rafah after three days of bloodshed in which 41 Palestinians were killed and dozens of homes were razed.
In Washington, a senior State Department official said Deputy Prime Minister Ehud Olmert had assured the United States it would not demolish any more homes.
"Olmert did tell us when he came in Tuesday that there would not be further demolition of houses and that they were not going to widen the strip. We'll see what happens," said the official, who asked not to be named.
Palestinian witnesses said tanks began moving out of two Rafah neighborhoods early on Friday but were not completely out of the camp by dawn. They said soldiers were still in control of the camp, but the tank presence was easing.
The Israeli security sources said a smaller deployment of troops would remain in the camp for an undefined period of time.
Israel stormed into Rafah on Tuesday after losing 13 soldiers in Gaza ambushes last week.
jouw briefkees!
http://www.telegraaf.nl/b(...)terug_uit_Rafah.html
moet je op de foto van het kind klikken, echt erg man
moet je op de foto van het kind klikken, echt erg man
wat?
