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  dinsdag 3 januari 2023 @ 18:15:30 #226
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Zeg maar dat het niet waar is
Vredesakkoorden met Egypte, Jordanie, SA, UAE, Maritiem akkoord met Libanon.
Maar ga rustig door met ongenformeerd zijn
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0s.gif Op dinsdag 3 januari 2023 18:15 schreef Jan_Onderwater het volgende:

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Vredesakkoorden met Egypte, Jordanie, SA, UAE, Maritiem akkoord met Libanon.
Maar ga rustig door met ongenformeerd zijn
Zegt niks over het landje pikken van de Palestijnen, daar ging het om toch
  dinsdag 3 januari 2023 @ 20:48:36 #228
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Zegt niks over het landje pikken van de Palestijnen, daar ging het om toch
West Bank, Sinai, Golan?
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Ah, Ben Gvir bij de tempelberg. Palestijnen boos.

Dit conflict gaat nog wel een tijdje duren.
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beste moderator, is wel een verschil hoor, een topic over israel/palestina- of een topic over waar je betrouwebare informatie kan vinden over dit conflict.
  woensdag 4 januari 2023 @ 14:48:42 #231
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Hoe Mossad entrapment werkt:

https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/article-726608
Fmr. Hezbollah member spied for Israel after Mossad blackmail - report
The alleged Israeli spy reportedly attempted to reenter Hezbollah after being blackmailed by the Mossad, but failed to do so before he was arrested.

A former member of Hezbollah was arrested in September in Lebanon on suspicion of spying for the Mossad, and was blackmailed into doing so on threat of the release of videos showing him engaged in sexual relations, the Lebanese Al-Akhbar newspaper reported on Wednesday.

According to the report, in June 2021, the former Hezbollah member, identified as Mohsen S., met a woman who said she was Belgian at a cafe in Freetown, the capital of Sierra Leone. The next day, they met at her house and had sex. A few days later, the woman disappeared and would not answer his calls.

A week after the woman disappeared, Mohsen received a video clip on his phone showing him in intimate situations with the woman. Mohsen responded by sending question marks and received no answer except for a message reading "Rejoice, sweetheart." A short time afterward, he received a call from the number, with a man telling him that he was "a friend who wanted help" and that he was from the Mossad.

After hearing the word Mossad, Mohsen hung up and blocked the number, but the man contacted him from another number, warning him that he would send the video clip to his friends and family, according to Al-Akhbar. Mohsen called his friends and family to check whether they had been sent the video and confirmed that they had not.

A few days later, Mohsen received a phone call from the same person and offered to call him over Skype to verify his identity. Mohsen told investigators that in the Skype call, he saw a man in his 50s sitting at a desk with an Israeli flag behind him, along with two other people, including one in an IDF uniform. The former Hezbollah member told the alleged Mossad agent that he would do whatever he wanted if the video wasn't published.

In a further conversation, the alleged Mossad agent began to ask Mohsen about his work in Hezbollah and the training he underwent. Mohsen had joined Hezbollah in 2010 and fought in Syria before being kicked out of the movement for bad behavior. The Mossad agent then asked Mohsen to return to Lebanon and to try and become part of Hezbollah again.

Mohsen was then brought to Liberia where four Israeli officers interrogated him about Hezbollah, the military skills he was trained in, the weapons he had used, the locations where he was trained and individuals who had fought alongside him. Mohsen told the officers that he had worked in the engineering units of Hezbollah and had been trained to plant and dismantle explosive devices.

The officers instructed Mohsen to return to Hezbollah and to provide them with the locations and photos of the movement's weapons and ammunition depots. The officers trained him to use a VPN to mask his communications.

After returning to Lebanon, Mohsen failed to reenter Hezbollah, despite repeated attempts. In September, the Internal Security Forces arrested Mohsen in Naqoura, according to Al-Akhbar.

Lees verder: https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/article-726608
  woensdag 4 januari 2023 @ 23:51:45 #232
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Q:Why should Palestinians who have lived in Jerusalem for hundreds of years be evicted from their homes so that Jews from Brooklyn can live in them?

A: I will answer in the most honest but blunt way possible.

Some of you will like my answer but some won’t.

The fact is:

The Palestinian Lost the war and Wars have consequences.

After World War II, millions of German Citizens were removed from German lands that were lost to expand Russia and Poland. The land of Prussia ceased to exist, their old Prussian capital Knigsberg renamed by Russia to Kaliningrad.

Furthermore millions of ethnic German speaking people who were citizens of various Eastern European countries and had ancestors living in those lands for two thousand years were expelled. It did not matter that they were NEVER citizens of Germany and had nothing to do with Germany’s wars of aggression, they were ethnically cleansed from across Eastern Europe. Guilt by ethnic association.

Millions of Hindus and Muslims lost their homes with the creation of Pakistan and India.

Hundreds of thousands of Jews who were citizens of Arab countries and who were NEVER associated with Israel were expelled after the creation of Israel. Guilt by religious associations.

Poland and Russia will never return land to Germany. That’s just the reality. I know ethnic Prussian who point out how they are forgetting by history.

The US will never allow a creation of an independent Native American country from their American lands. The US will never return the Southwest to Mexico either. That’s just the reality.

The Arabs who conquered and colonized the Maghreb, will not pack up and leave North Africa and return the land to the Berber. That’s just reality.

Pontus Greek whose ancestors had spend their lives as a community for two thousand years by the Black Sea and have NEVER been citizens of Greece were expelled to Greece or massacres by the Ottomans starting in 1913. Guilty by linguistics association.

Furthermore the Turks will never return Constantinople to the Greeks. That’s just the reality.

Neither the Iraq, Syria, Turkey or Iran will NEVER give up their sovereign land for an independent Kurdish homeland, no matter how many thousands of years the Kurds may have lived on that land. That’s just the reality.

During the Yugoslav Civil War of the 1990s, many communities who had lived in various villages for hundreds if not a thousand years were displaced simply for their ethnicity or faith. Borders created, population changed. Now several of those newly independent Yugoslav nations are now happy NATO members but thousands of Serbian families have never regained their lost properties.

Wars have consequences.

When Jordan ruled East Jerusalem, they did not create an independent Palestine. They took legal responsibility of the Arab population by making them citizens.

“East Jerusalem” as a concept is a double edge sword for the Palestinians. The Palestinian claim “East Jerusalem” for their future capital (historically those that lose a war do not get what they want).

The UN Partition Plan of 1947 NEVER envisioned “East Jerusalem” as a “Palestinian capital” nor a divided city.

The unified city of Jerusalem was meant to be administered “Internationally”.

The Jews accepted this plan. The Palestinians and the rest of the Arab League had a chance for peace in 1948 but they rejected this compromise and chose war. They lost. Badly.

“East Jerusalem” was simply the portion of the city that Jordan could only captured and annexed.

Palestinians and their supporters by accepting the concept of a “East Jerusalem” (a concept only created through Jordanian rule) they are thus legitimizing Jordan’s two decade rule of the West Bank and consequently all its legal aspects, this includes accepting that Jordanian Citizenship was valid and Jordan their sovereign nation. If not, then the concept of “East Jerusalem” isn’t valid.

Let us be honest here. Jordan intended to annex the whole of Palestine and ethnically cleansed the land of Jews. They largely failed in their conquest. The people of the West Bank who were under Jordanian control were given Jordanian Citizenship except the Jews.

For nearly two decades, West Bank Palestinian were born as Jordanian citizens. All young Palestinian today from the West Bank have parents or grandparents who carried Jordanian citizenship.

When Jordan granted the Palestinian citizenship, Jordan proclaimed to the international community that they took and claimed full legal international responsibility of that population. Under international law all Palestinians in the West Bank had a right not to be made stateless by Jordan regardless if Jordan lost the West Bank.

Jordan can not simply void the citizenship they granted to the Palestinian in the West Bank since there has never been an independent Palestine.

The Palestinian/Jordanians expelled the Jewish families who had lived in the city for hundreds of years, destroyed all Jewish synagogues in the city and desecrated and destroyed the Jewish cemetery. There was no outcry from the Arab world. That was the reality.

Wars have consequences.

Jerusalem was won by Israel in the Six Day War of 1967, it’s their capital now. How they managed it is their sovereign right.

Syria did not recognize the existence of Israel as a sovereign nation and did not recognize an actual “national border” with Israel. Portions of the Golan Heights even fell under the 1949 Armistice Demilitarized Zone, zones that Syria prior to 67, insisted were under no national sovereignty.

Cease fire line are not national borders, without a national border that two nations mutually recognized, this open up disputes over territories. Syria had originally hoped to claimed more territory than just the Golan Heights and have complete access to the Sea of Galilee.

Because Syria did not recognize Israel or an Israeli national sovereign border, the Golan Height and surrounding areas were disputed territory.

Syria could’ve made peace with Israel, clearly defined each other’s sovereign national border. But Syria did not and has not, it repeatedly chose war and repeatedly lost.

For those Palestinian and Arabs that demonize Israel as a “colonial-settler state”, (Jews are in fact indigenous to the Levant) they seem to have no issue with the Republic of Turkey or the “Arab Nations” of the Maghreb.

It’s been 74 years and counting since the Arab-Israeli War of 48 and many are only now starting to understand and realize that the war is over.

This is the reason why Arabs nations are finally making peace with Israel. They are finally realizing that they have gained nothing for fighting for Palestine. Sacrificing their sons for someone else’s war make no sense.

Countries that have made peace have gained from not wasting precious financial resources on a someone else’s no-win war.

Peace can not be achieved if one side does not accept it has lost. The American understood this and accepted their loss in Vietnam. The Soviets understood this and accepted their loss in Afghanistan.

Wars have consequences.

Time for the Palestinian to accept the reality that they lost and that the longer the Palestinian insist on prolonging this conflict over disputed lands, the smaller their Palestinian State will become until it is only Gaza. The war is lost, time to make peace and build a nation.
  donderdag 5 januari 2023 @ 12:28:25 #233
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For those Palestinian and Arabs that demonize Israel as a “colonial-settler state”, (Jews are in fact indigenous to the Levant) they seem to have no issue with the Republic of Turkey or the “Arab Nations” of the Maghreb.
Deze heb ik op Fok al eerder voorbij zien komen, met name in relatie tot de Westelijke Sahara en de Koerden. Bij een pro-Palestina-demonstratie werden de Koerdische vlaggen letterlijk van de ruggen afgerukt door de deelnemende Turken. Tot zover de Oemmah...

Dit neemt trouwens niet weg dat de legale positie van de Palestijnen in Isral niet klopt. Niet zo erg als die niet klopt in Libanon en Jordani maar daar zit geen blauwe davidsster aan vast bij wijze van rode lap natuurlijk. Dat is bij uitstek antisemitisme: het eruit pikken van politieke patronen/daden als het om Israli's of joden gaat maar stil blijven als het vanuit een andere regering komt.

Maar goed, twee keer krom maakt niet recht natuurlijk.

Wat mij het meeste zorgen baart is het massaal hersenloos nablaten van een narratief zonder nuance of berhaupt een tweede perspectief, zonder feiten en met vooral hele grote woorden. Tegen de tijd dat de middelbare school in beeld is, is de mening al vastgespijkerd en is alleen schreeuwen, dreigen en eisen mogelijk over dit onderwerp.

Ik vroeg ooit aan de moeder van een (Turks) jochie hier uit de buurt of hij mee mocht naar McDonald's. "Tuurlijk!" zei de moeder. "Maar hij mag alleen de visburger."
Jochie op geschokte toon: "Maar mama, jij zei toch dat je daarmee Yieshra-iel geld gaf!?"
Moeder lichtelijk gegeneerd: "Nee dat was alleen maar op tv."

Jochie was iets van 7.
  dinsdag 17 januari 2023 @ 10:37:50 #234
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De US Army heeft al jaaaaaren een policy dat ze meehelpen aan films als het positieve reclame oplevert, iets waar Michael Bay constant gebruik van maakt. Het is logisch dat ze niet meehelpen aan iets wat hun zwart maakt.

Maar Israel betaalde al die tijd voor film projecten waarin ze bekritiseerd worden en door de anti Israel gemeenschap dankbaar gebruikt wordt? Dat is nog eens jezelf in de voet schieten 8)7

https://www.timesofisrael(...)l-not-receive-funds/
New culture minister: Films ‘offensive’ to Israel will not receive funds
Miki Zohar says creators free to produce any content they wish, but if they want financial backing, they’ll need to pledge their work is not what he deems to be anti-Israeli

organizations that want to boycott Israel often point to locally produced works critical of the government and its policies toward Palestinians as proof that their claims of Israeli abuse are justified.

“In the end, the public will decide whether they come to see a film or not, but we will not compromise on the financing issue. We will not fund offensive content against IDF soldiers and the State of Israel.”
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De US Army heeft al jaaaaaren een policy dat ze meehelpen aan films als het positieve reclame oplevert, iets waar Michael Bay constant gebruik van maakt. Het is logisch dat ze niet meehelpen aan iets wat hun zwart maakt.
Even hoor, maar vul voor "US Army" eens iets willekeurig anders in... en het resultaat is hetzelfde. :P
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Maar Israel betaalde al die tijd voor film projecten waarin ze bekritiseerd worden en door de anti Israel gemeenschap dankbaar gebruikt wordt? Dat is nog eens jezelf in de voet schieten 8)7
Ik vind dat eigenlijk meer de correcte toepassing van vrijheid van meningsuiting. :)
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https://www.timesofisrael(...)l-not-receive-funds/
New culture minister: Films ‘offensive’ to Israel will not receive funds
Miki Zohar says creators free to produce any content they wish, but if they want financial backing, they’ll need to pledge their work is not what he deems to be anti-Israeli

organizations that want to boycott Israel often point to locally produced works critical of the government and its policies toward Palestinians as proof that their claims of Israeli abuse are justified.

“In the end, the public will decide whether they come to see a film or not, but we will not compromise on the financing issue. We will not fund offensive content against IDF soldiers and the State of Israel.”
Tsja, ik vind het jammer. :{

De vrijheid van meningsuiting moet een basisrecht zijn. En ik snap dat het financiren van, en toestaan van twee verschillende dingen zijn, maar het was toch iets waar Isral in voorop liep. Ik hoop dus niet dat het daadwerkelijk verbieden van Isralkritische werken, de volgende stap zal zijn. :{
Intolerant voor intolerantie
  dinsdag 17 januari 2023 @ 21:10:59 #236
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Interessant, het lijkt erop dat Hezbollah en misschien Hamas het hebben opgegeven om tunnels te graven tegen Israel.

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-728812
Sneak peak of IDF's Givati brigade's enhanced AFVs, drones
The Jerusalem Post joined an IDF drill in the sand dunes near the Gaza border.

He had recently been training in the North, where Hezbollah has largely given up on tunnel warfare after the IDF destroyed most or all of its attack tunnels and re-digging them is extremely difficult.

In contrast, Hamas is still hard at work to use tunnels against the IDF and his soldiers and special tunnel units he works with, must be ready for any new curveball Hamas throws at them.

Still, one IDF view is that Hamas may generally avoid tunnels as they just missed losing hundreds of fighters to an IDF trap during the May 2021 Gaza War, and they may not want to test their luck again.
  zondag 22 januari 2023 @ 22:04:13 #237
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  woensdag 25 januari 2023 @ 19:22:21 #238
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  donderdag 26 januari 2023 @ 10:58:54 #239
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a surface to surface missile was used to destroy a whole group of around five terrorists who had pinned down part of the IDF unit.

There were also reports and video footage indicating that the IDF had tried to sneak into Jenin under the cover of using a refrigerator supply truck, but that some of the Palestinians found the truck suspicious and opened fire on it, blowing the cover.
  donderdag 26 januari 2023 @ 11:11:03 #240
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  donderdag 26 januari 2023 @ 11:14:24 #241
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  vrijdag 27 januari 2023 @ 20:28:22 #242
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Nieuwe generatie aan geweld.
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  vrijdag 27 januari 2023 @ 20:35:26 #246
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Nou, die verwachte escalatie bleef niet uit...
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Russen terug naar Rusland en de zionisten terug naar Europa.. Zoiets..
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Russen terug naar Rusland en de zionisten terug naar Europa.. Zoiets..
Dat slaat nergens op.

Russen terug naar Zweden en Zionisten terug naar... Oh wacht, Isral. :D
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Jeetje. Terreur in Israel. Normaliter is alles wat Israel en de Palestijnen aangaat altijd vrede en harmonie. Maar niet hopen dat deze actie die goede banden tussen deze twee volkeren zal verstoren. Dat zou eeuwig zonde zijn.
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Straks krijgen we nog een terreurgroep van Palestijnse kant, dat in hun manifest heeft staan dat ze Israel de zee in willen hebben. En gewelddadige kolonisten aan Isralische zijde. En Meir kahana-sympathisanten aan de macht.

Nee, dat moeten we niet willen. Zorgt voor te veel geopolitieke poespas.
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