VS heeft een probleem #13 Code Orange

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Op donderdag 10 december 2020 22:28 schreef VoMy het volgende:

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VS doet het wel wat slechter. Zeker als je de gunstige, lagere, bevolkingsdichtheid meeneemt.

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Op maandag 14 december 2020 22:27 schreef stavromulabeta het volgende:

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En de gemiddelde jongere bevolking dan in Europa.

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Op maandag 14 december 2020 22:57 schreef Monolith het volgende:

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Een bevolking die wel een heel stuk ongezonder is.

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Op maandag 14 december 2020 23:02 schreef Pleun2011 het volgende:

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Dat is het grootste probleem denk ik. En er zijn natuurlijk best veel grote stedelijke gebieden met een grote bevolkingsdichtheid.

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Op maandag 14 december 2020 23:07 schreef Monolith het volgende:

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Ja je kun ook niet simpelweg kijken naar het totale oppervlak van een land en het aantal inwoners. Er is een wat betere maatstaf, waarvan de naam me even ontschoten is die wat meer rekening houdt met clustering, zodat een staat met twee grote steden en verder vooral bos, bergen of woestijn toch dichtbevolkt is.

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een reactie op dit nieuws artikel:

"ICU nurse in LA metro here. The environment at work is unlike anything I’ve ever experienced. We all know hell is coming. Beds are one thing — what will you do when the ventilators are all used up and the medicines run out and the RTs and RNs and MDs are stretched to the breaking point? Most of us aren’t afraid. It’s not about fear. It’s about being forced to live out a reality we should have never been required to experience.

Death isn’t new to us — it’s a part of life we are very conscious of. The sheer numbers lately are the problem. You hear two or three code blues every shift. You get told you have to keep your deceased patient in the bed a little longer while they figure out how to make space in the morgue. You come back after two days off and half of the floor is “discharged”. You call blood bank to get some convalescent plasma and they tell you they are completely out and that they don’t know when they will have it again.

I won’t ever be able to use FaceTime again after this is all over. I’ve had to hear too many families say goodbye from afar. I’ve had to hide my tears as I prepare wives and husbands to lose their spouses they’ve been married to for 40,50 years. I’ve heard people’s school-aged children begging for them to live, screaming with grief at the realization they will never see their parent again. In the end it isn’t the death itself that scars you. It’s the consequences that will echo through our society for a long time."

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Op dinsdag 15 december 2020 12:49 schreef Dos37 het volgende:
Amerika blijft interssant om te volgen. Op 1 ochtend lees je dat het (om welke reden dan ook) in South Dakota en Iowa een stuk beter gaat. In Mississippi geen ICU bedden meer zijn.

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Op dinsdag 15 december 2020 12:49 schreef Dos37 het volgende:
Amerika blijft interssant om te volgen. Op 1 ochtend lees je dat het (om welke reden dan ook) in South Dakota en Iowa een stuk beter gaat. In Mississippi geen ICU bedden meer zijn.

En Florida blijft een apart geval, bijna geen maatregelen meer, ik zat zondagavond zelfs naar een NFL wedstrijd te kijken met best wat publiek. Toch loopt het daar niet uit de hand, al een tijdje stabiel op 10.000 bestemmingen per dag.

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Op dinsdag 15 december 2020 12:53 schreef Tijger_m het volgende:

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In Florida worden de cijfers dan ook gigantisch gemanipuleerd.

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Ron DeSantis sued for withholding White House report slamming his “inadequate” response to COVID

Two Florida newspapers sued Gov. Ron DeSantis after the Republican withheld a White House Coronavirus Task Force report urging the state to impose stricter coronavirus restrictions amid a large spike in infections in the Sunshine State.

The Orlando Sentinel and the South Florida Sun-Sentinel filed a lawsuit last week accusing the governor of violating the Public Records Act by withholding weekly White House Coronavirus Task Force reports that provide information about the spread of the virus and medical guidance to contain the spread. "The state has given us no explanation as to why this crucial health information should be withheld," Julie Anderson, the editor in chief of both newspapers, told the Associated Press. "We had no choice but to ask a court to intervene to uphold the public records law."

The lawsuit came after the Center for Public Integrity obtained a December 6 report urging stricter restrictions during the holidays.

"Florida has seen stability in new cases, an increase in test positivity, and increasing hospitalizations and deaths, indicating unrelenting community spread and inadequate mitigation," said the report from the White House Coronavirus Task Force, which is headed by Vice President Mike Pence and Dr. Deborah Birx.

DeSantis has refused to release the reports since the start of December despite weekly requests from the newspapers. The lawsuit notes that Trump's White House has urged for the reports to be "widely" distributed.

"No public records law exemption exists that would prevent the inspection or copying of the weekly reports requested," the lawsuit says, adding that the "delay in providing the requested reports is unreasonable, unjustified and amounts to an unlawful refusal to provide the records. The public is entitled to timely access of these reports going forward."

Some states, including other Republican-led states, publish the weekly reports online, according to the AP.

"Despite the threat the virus continues to pose to Floridians, [Desantis and his office] have engaged in a pattern of concealment and suppression by steadfastly refusing to comply with the Public Records Act and delaying access to weekly White House Coronavirus Task Force reports," the lawsuit alleges. "The public cannot continue to wait for the crucial information contained in these reports and timely access is critical going forward."

DeSantis has adamantly pushed back on implementing restrictions to contain the spread in the state, which has reported nearly 20,000 deaths and more than 1.1 million infections. The governor has issued multiple executive orders limiting cities' abilities to enforce mask mandates and close businesses.

"No one's losing their job because of a government dictate," he declared earlier this month. "Nobody's losing their livelihood or their business."

The White House report urged public health officials to discourage all public gatherings and urge mask-wearing.

DeSantis has claimed that the situation will improve once vaccines are available to the public but the White House report noted that there won't be enough vaccines available until "late spring." He even suggested against medical guidelines that a single dose of the two-dose vaccines manufactured by Pfizer and Moderna may be enough, even as he acknowledged that "I'm not sure that Pfizer would agree or FDA would agree."

DeSantis has frequently come under fire for failing to take stronger steps to protect his state's residents and flouting public health guidelines. The governor, his wife, and their two young children were pictured maskless at a packed high school football game on Friday. The couple is even planning a holiday reception for state legislators at the governor's mansion on Monday despite medical recommendations, Politico reported.

DeSantis has also been repeatedly accused of concealing or manipulating coronavirus data.

Medical examiners sounded the alarm in the spring after the state stopped publishing real-time data on coronavirus deaths. Rebekah Jones, a data scientist who helped build the state's public coronavirus data dashboard, was fired after she alleged she was asked to "manipulate" data to back DeSantis' push to reopen the state in May, which DeSantis denied. Jones' home was raided by armed police serving a warrant signed by a recent DeSantis-appointee last week after she was accused of improperly accessing the state's internal emergency alert system, which she denied. The raid prompted another DeSantis appointee to quit in protest, arguing that the raid was politically driven and "unconscionable."

After the raid, Jones accused DeSantis of trying to "intimidate" scientists into silence and alleged the state was still manipulating data.

"The manipulation is most prevalent in Florida with our statistics and reporting on death and hospitalization," she told Salon, claiming that death data still has a "very long delay" and ICU bed data is underreported. She added that the percent positivity rate used in Florida is "useless" and is not used by any "other state in the country."

Jones blamed DeSantis for ordering the raid, which his office has repeatedly denied, and claimed police seized "evidence of corruption" stored on her computers.

"This was DeSantis. He sent the gestapo," she tweeted. "This is what happens to scientists who do their job honestly. This is what happens to people who speak truth to power."

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Op woensdag 16 december 2020 21:39 schreef dellipder het volgende:
De American Medical Association, de grootste vereniging van artsen en medisch studenten heeft eind oktober teruggekomen op hu eerder ingenomen standpunt dat artsen zouden moeten stoppen met het voorschrijven van hydroxychloroquine. Ze geeft nu toe dat de voordelen zwaarder wegen dan de extreem lage risico's.

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Op donderdag 17 december 2020 02:11 schreef Eyjafjallajoekull het volgende:
Nieuwe records vandaag weer.

Dodental tegen de 3500. Californie bijna 58.000 cases.

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Op donderdag 17 december 2020 08:35 schreef Rozevla het volgende:

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En hoeveel hersteld??

Onee dat hoort niet bij de vermeldingen.....

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Op donderdag 17 december 2020 08:35 schreef Rozevla het volgende:

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En hoeveel hersteld??

Onee dat hoort niet bij de vermeldingen.....

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Op donderdag 17 december 2020 08:35 schreef Rozevla het volgende:

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En hoeveel hersteld??

Onee dat hoort niet bij de vermeldingen.....

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Op donderdag 17 december 2020 08:43 schreef koemleit het volgende:

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Altijd zo'n dom argument van viruswappies.

Dit jaar X aantal dodelijke stijger ongelukken. "En hoeveel keer geen ongeluk???? DAT ZEGGEN ZE NIET HE"!

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Op donderdag 17 december 2020 08:35 schreef Rozevla het volgende:

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En hoeveel hersteld??

Onee dat hoort niet bij de vermeldingen.....