Azië vreest verdere verspreiding coronavirus #2

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Op vrijdag 24 januari 2020 20:54 schreef Discombobulate het volgende:
Denken jullie ook dat China er een cover-up van maakt? Volgens mij gaat het er veel erger aan toe dan we denken...

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Op vrijdag 24 januari 2020 20:53 schreef byah het volgende:
Ook in Frankrijk nu

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Op vrijdag 24 januari 2020 20:55 schreef Durmada het volgende:

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Nah ik denk vooral dat iedereen veel te overdreven reageert.

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Op vrijdag 24 januari 2020 20:58 schreef LTVDK het volgende:

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Ik denk dat het een combinatie is van beiden, China probeert het zoveel mogelijk te verbergen en wij denken dat het daarom juist nog veel groter is .

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Op vrijdag 24 januari 2020 21:00 schreef Bensel het volgende:

goed, houden we het op 50.000 besmettingen ipv 1000 of 100.000 zoals hierboven door de zuster aangegeven wordt;)

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Op vrijdag 24 januari 2020 21:02 schreef Za het volgende:

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Vanavond op het journaal was te zien dat men de overledenen aan het virus in het ziekenhuis gewoon op de grond laten liggen, tussen de niet zieken en personeel.

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Op vrijdag 24 januari 2020 20:58 schreef LTVDK het volgende:

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Ik denk dat het een combinatie is van beiden, China probeert het zoveel mogelijk te verbergen en wij denken dat het daarom juist nog veel groter is .

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Op vrijdag 24 januari 2020 21:08 schreef Durmada het volgende:

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Je moet niet alles wat je ziet direct voor waarheid aannemen.

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Wat wellicht bijdraagt aan het indammen van dit virus, is dat Chinezen de neiging hebben elkaar sterk te controleren. Sinologe Manya Koetse volgt nauwlettend de Chinese sociale media en merkt dat daar sprake is van veel sociale controle.

"Mensen die koorts hebben en toch naar buiten gaan, worden bijvoorbeeld aan de schandpaal genageld", ziet Koetse. "Eergisteren postte een meisje dat ze koorts had, maar toch het vliegtuig naar Parijs had genomen. Mensen veroordeelden haar massaal en begonnen zelfs haar informatie te delen."

Overigens maakt ook de Chinese overheid tijdens de lockdown gebruik van sociale media, merkt Koetse. "Vandaag deelden staatsmedia een bericht over een trein. Drie mensen in een bepaalde wagon bleken geïnfecteerd en de overheid riep de andere inzittenden van die wagon op om binnen te blijven. Dat bericht kreeg wel een miljoen likes."

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Op vrijdag 24 januari 2020 21:30 schreef polderturk het volgende:
Frankrijk is wel heel dichtbij. Hopelijk is het Zuid-Frankrijk.

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parool twitterde op vrijdag 24-01-2020 om 21:33:07 Één van de twee besmette personen is via Nederland naar Frankrijk gereisd. https://t.co/ub5cUcPI6O reageer retweet

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The complete coronavirus timeline - a man made disaster.

Hi. This is going to be a long read, but I promise you it'll be a good read.

I posted this about an hour ago, but I didn't have a complete timeline sorted out to backup my claims - now I do. I still can't claim that the information I listed here are 100% correct as some of them are directly from Weibo - Chinese twitter, but other infos are from credible media sources and they're well written. My English, however, is less well written because I am a Chinese local. My apologies.

At the end of the day, I advise your to view this with a grain of salt - most of these weibos and screenshots are already deleted/censored from the Chinese internet, and if anything, that speaks volume to how much weight they hold.

When you cut out a man's tongue, you're not calling him a liar, you're showing the world you're afraid of what he might say.

You can check [this article](https://chinadigitaltimes(...)8%e5%85%b3%e4%ba%8b/) here if you understand Chinese - they do a better job at listing the timeline than I do.

Dec 8, 2019 is universally regarded as the first case of the coronavirus appearing. Him and about 27 other patients went to the hospital - they all have the same symptoms, and they're identified as 'unknown pneumonia patients'.

Things escalated in the next couple of weeks. On Dec 30, 2019, the seafood market that these cases originated from was identified, but no actions to directly close down and quarantine the market was taken. The SARS like virus was also confirmed and an emergency announcement file is released to medical personels with the last line stating: nobody is allowed to spread any information about this without approval from the authorithy.

\#WuhanSARS was also trending that night on Weibo but was immediately censored.

On Dec 31, 2019, a visit to the seafood market shows that nobody was aware of this flu. The entire market was business as usual. People walking around with no virus protection of any kind. On the afternoon, health committe released info on 27 cases of unknown pneumonia patients to the public, stating that no person-to-person virus transition have been discovered yet, and no medical staff was infected. Central people's newpaper tweeted something alone the lines of:

'All of the cases are residents of the seafood market, guys, there is nothing to be worried about. Rest assured! Even if it's SARS, we are sure to have it under control with our advanced and unmatched medical system.'

On Jan 1, 2020. People began posting on Weibo that it is very possible this virus can transfer between humans. They were censored. In the mean time, Wuhan police's account tweeted out: '8 individuals that spreaded misinformations about the pneumonia have been taken into custody. Worry not Chinese people! We've got everything under control.' The Wuhan health committe also keep on stating that this virus does not transfer between humans. I'm sure you're seeing a pattern here.

What's interesting to note that the Hong Kong goverment called a stat emergency immediately upon discovering cases within its region on Jan 4, whilst people in Wuhan are still trusting in its leaders and hoping for the best. This went on for an entire week, the Wuhan health committe keeps on stating that no new cases were discovered when in the mean time censored tweets on Weibo states hospitals are completely full with patients and new cases around the world starts to surface.

It is extremely clear at this point that this virus is highly contagious, can transfer between humans and can be deadly. But Wuhan citizens, going with the false info released by its goverment, was still going around the city with no protection whatsoever, believing that this is just a benigh virus under control.

On Jan 14, a group of journalists and medical staffs from Hong Kong came to Wuhan's hospital, they were rejected, later taken to the police and all footages they took in the hospital was taken away.

Keep in mind that in the mean time new cases started to spring everywhere on the map of China, and Wuhan citizens that traveled to other corners of the world are identified as infected cases.

On Jan 12, Imperial college london released a report estimating there should be around 1,700 cases by Jan 17. This invoked some questions in China.

On the same day, 13th HuBei people's representitive meeting was held in Wuhan. This is a huge goverment election event that lasts about a week. Before you ask, wait, China has elections? Just google it, I won't go too deep into it.

On Jan 16, someone on ZhiHu (The Chinese Quora) asked 'ok, so there are so many cases happening around the world, how did our great leaders manage to get this under control?' (Spoiler: They didn't, they just didn't put in on the news). More questions were asked and soon they were all deleted.

During the time the meeting was held, no new cases were reported by the Wuhan health committe. On Jan 18 however, after the event has finished, they started stating new cases were 'discovered' again. An interesting coincedence. This corona fellow is very collabrative.

Keep in mind that this late into 2020, people still have no idea how serious this virus is, they still think it doesn't transfer between humans, they still think it's only a handful of people that got this thing and it's completely under control.

On Jan 17, Wuhan travel committe released their big event: Free sightseeing for up to 200,000 tourists! Come to Wuhan and see the beautiful city!

On Jan 18, [40,000 families gathered around to eat and share family made gourmet dishes with each other. The smell of happiness filled the air. No virus involved.](http://www.sohu.com/a/367800723_120424456)

On Jan 20, Mr. Zhongnanshan, at 84 years old, went to Wuhan with a medical team. This is the first time some truth was released to the public: this virus transitions between humans, 15 medical staff was infected, and it is at this point the case and death numbers started skyrocketing.

I'll leave a imgur album of some chatlogs/weibo here, they're all translated. You can see for yourself how serious this thing really is.

[https://imgur.com/a/m91RAOz](https://imgur.com/a/m91RAOz)

Stay positive bros.

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Op vrijdag 24 januari 2020 21:38 schreef Toefjes het volgende:
Straks gaat het EK niet door

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Op vrijdag 24 januari 2020 21:38 schreef haags_kwartiertje het volgende:

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Denk eerder aan de olympische spelen

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Op vrijdag 24 januari 2020 18:04 schreef 5thencounter het volgende:
Toch raar dat zo'n zeldzaam virus zomaar ineens in het midden van een grote stad "ontstaat" wie is zo'n gelukkige die tussen al die tienduizenden mensen dat virus vindt en ronddeelt, nix vreemds ze weten ook de naam al dus geen "mutatie" van een bestaand virus
Waarom komt dat dan zomaar binnenvallen