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0s.gif Op donderdag 6 december 2018 16:50 schreef SuperHartje het volgende:
River Phoenix

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Wat is hier verder fishy aan dan?
  Moderator zondag 16 december 2018 @ 20:38:02 #52
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0s.gif Op zondag 16 december 2018 20:07 schreef illusions het volgende:

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Wat is hier verder fishy aan dan?
Was onduidelijk hoe de drugs in zijn lichaam is gekomen en is niet verder onderzocht.
Hierdoor zijn er verschillende theorieën rond zijn dood ontstaan. Ook dat dit gebeurde in de Viper Room en Depp zou zich vreemd hebben gedragen naderhand, maar dat is ook een conspiracy.

Zal binnenkort kijken wat ik hier nog over kan vinden. En wilde ook nog kijken naar de omstandigheden bij het overlijden van Brittany Murphy. En dat van Kurt Cobain is misschien ook wel interessant om wat meer uit de diepen en de feiten op een rijtje te zetten.
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  Moderator zondag 16 december 2018 @ 21:18:41 #53
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Dit is bijv zo’n conspiracy link (River Phoenix): https://www.brainstain.co(...)oenix-drug-overdose/

Wordt hier ook beweerd dat hij abnormaal veel drugs in zijn lichaam had.
A child is born with no state of mind.
  Moderator maandag 17 december 2018 @ 06:10:50 #54
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Oh ja en het laatste interview van River Phoenix met David Letterman, zou ook speculatie hebben veroorzaakt. In dat interview sprak Phoenix zich uit tegen multi- nationals en grote coöperaties.
Maar dat interview zou nergens meer te vinden zijn:
Zijn meer mensen die beweren dat dit interview heeft plaatsgevonden.

Maar goed, ik weet niet of dit daadwerkelijk iets met zijn dood te maken heeft.
A child is born with no state of mind.
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Heb het een beetje doorgenomen, maar vind het in het geval van River Phoenix redelijk vergezocht allemaal. Drugs hoeft nou eenmaal niet via een naald je lichaam in te komen, cocaïne al helemáál niet. Kurt Cobain z'n hoofd lag er overigens af en die gozer was zwaar depressief en suicidiaal door zijn overmatige heroïnegebruik.

Chester Bennington komt me overigens wel fishy over, daar ga ik nog even wat energie in steken om het e.e.a. uit te zoeken.
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0s.gif Op maandag 17 december 2018 11:24 schreef illusions het volgende:
Heb het een beetje doorgenomen, maar vind het in het geval van River Phoenix redelijk vergezocht allemaal. Drugs hoeft nou eenmaal niet via een naald je lichaam in te komen, cocaïne al helemáál niet. Kurt Cobain z'n hoofd lag er overigens af en die gozer was zwaar depressief en suicidiaal door zijn overmatige heroïnegebruik.
Inderdaad. En het is vaak een molen van zorgen en het willen oplossen met verdovende middelen.

In Amerika vielen weinig werkende middelen als drop, "drugs" als in medicijnen en hard drugs ooit onder dezelfde noemer van 'drugs' als medicijn. Tot men erachter kwam dat soortgelijken als drop e.d. niet zo heel veel deden en bepaalde hard drugs verdoving brachten maar ook een slopende verslaving tot gevolg had.

Vele sterren lijden een ongezond leven van lange dagen, stress en korte nachten wat voor depressies kan zorgen. Dan meent men dat de hard drugs ze op de been houdt en die illusie geeft het ze ook even. Maar in werkelijkheid brand je je hersenen in korte tijd naar de kloten en daarom worden sterren die hun tijd en leven niet goed managen vaak niet oud.

Men heeft het weleens over sterren die hun dood gefaked zouden hebben. Hoewel ik er niet zo sterk in geloof zou ik dat in het gebied van 'theoretisch mogelijk' willen gooien. Ik kan me namelijk best voorstellen dat velen uit de rat race zouden willen stappen en als onbekende van het pensioen willen genieten.

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Er was toch ooit een algemeen Verdachte sterfgevallen en ongelukken-topic hier in BNW?

Al was dat, met het sluiten van MIS, de laatste jaren geheel gekaapt en ondergesneeuwd door die Fok!huisvrouwendetectives die zich alleen maar met die Nederlandse meisjes in Panama bezig hielden.
Perhaps you've seen it, maybe in a dream.
A murky, forgotten land.
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0s.gif Op maandag 17 december 2018 12:03 schreef StateOfMind het volgende:
Er was toch ooit een algemeen Verdachte sterfgevallen en ongelukken-topic hier in BNW?

Al was dat, met het sluiten van MIS, de laatste jaren geheel gekaapt en ondergesneeuwd door die Fok!huisvrouwendetectives die zich alleen maar met die Nederlandse meisjes in Panama bezig hielden.
En er volgens mij allemaal naast zaten.
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En er volgens mij allemaal naast zaten.
Doodzonde dat zij die topicreeks naar de kloten hebben geholpen, want dat ging niet alleen maar over verdachte sterfgevallen van celebs (zoals dit topic), maar ook over klokkenluiders e.d. :Y
Perhaps you've seen it, maybe in a dream.
A murky, forgotten land.
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0s.gif Op maandag 17 december 2018 12:03 schreef StateOfMind het volgende:
Er was toch ooit een algemeen Verdachte sterfgevallen en ongelukken-topic hier in BNW?

Al was dat, met het sluiten van MIS, de laatste jaren geheel gekaapt en ondergesneeuwd door die Fok!huisvrouwendetectives die zich alleen maar met die Nederlandse meisjes in Panama bezig hielden.
Klopt dat het op een gegeven moment alleen nog maar ging over de Panamazaak. Of de volgens jou 'FOK_huisvrouwen' de boel ondergesneeuwd hebben weet ik niet. Die kwalificatie is een beetje neerbuigend.

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En er volgens mij allemaal naast zaten.
Zou best kunnen.
  Moderator dinsdag 18 december 2018 @ 17:28:46 #61
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0s.gif Op maandag 17 december 2018 12:18 schreef StateOfMind het volgende:

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Doodzonde dat zij die topicreeks naar de kloten hebben geholpen, want dat ging niet alleen maar over verdachte sterfgevallen van celebs (zoals dit topic), maar ook over klokkenluiders e.d. :Y
Deze? BNW / Mysterieuze reeks moorden en ongelukken #6
Heeft net een kickje gehad.

Misschien beter om dat gescheiden te houden wel :)
A child is born with no state of mind.
  dinsdag 18 december 2018 @ 17:29:34 #62
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Een verdachte sterfgevallen topic zou je zelfs helemaal aan de Clintons kunnen wijden.
Emotionele exclusiviteit monogamie-adept
  Moderator dinsdag 18 december 2018 @ 17:39:12 #63
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0s.gif Op dinsdag 18 december 2018 17:29 schreef Kaneelstokje het volgende:
Een verdachte sterfgevallen topic zou je zelfs helemaal aan de Clintons kunnen wijden.
Je bedoelt de Clinton body count- theorie? Dat verdient misschien wel een eigen topic :D
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Een verdachte sterfgevallen topic zou je zelfs helemaal aan de Clintons kunnen wijden.
Verras ons _O-
ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn
  Moderator donderdag 24 januari 2019 @ 14:05:02 #65
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Over Kurt Cobain

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Kurt Cobain murder conspiracy theorist Richard Lee sent Alternative Nation the following ‘press release’ yesterday following the Seattle Police Department releasing new photos of the shotgun Kurt Cobain used to commit suicide in April 1994, debunking many murder conspiracy theories. Lee’s opinions do not reflect the views of Alternative Nation.

SHOTGUN SECRETS REVEALED:




SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT RELEASES FIVE NEW PHOTOS OF NEVER-BEFORE-SEEN KURT COBAIN GUN, DEMONSTRATING SPD’S PROPENSITY TO HIDE EVIDENCE UNTIL COMPELLED TO SHOW THEIR CARDS

“The release of the five photos of the shotgun in the Kurt Cobain homicide case provides crystal-clear proof of one thing above all else—that the Seattle Police Department has its own culture of cover-ups and secrecy, which they generally consider unaccountable to the law,” says Seattle journalist Richard Lee. “Obviously,” says Lee, who is currently pursuing a lawsuit to gain release of all documents in the Cobain case, “Seattle police officials have gotten nervous about the existence of the shotgun in their possession, and did not want to give me credit for such a discovery, especially if this was something that was to slip out in the course of my pre-trial investigation.

“As someone who began making formal requests for documents just a few days after Cobain’s death, SPD’s admission that they still possess the gun is long overdue, by almost 22 years,” says Lee. The gun was long believed to have been destroyed shortly after widow Courtney Love’s announcement in April of 1994 that it was to be donated to an anti-violence charity group which reportedly would melt down the weapon.

Lee continues, “No one should see the SPD’s remarkably long possession of this historical object as related to any legitimate investigative purpose. They declared the case closed on day one, April 8, 1994, and then did some cursory information gathering to prevent any allegations that they did absolutely nothing. It might be tempting to assume this to be careful preservation of evidence, but I assure you, that is absolutely not the case. Obviously, SPD has never made any slight indication, including today, that those are their motives. Other key evidence, such as the so-called suicide note, was given back to Courtney Love almost immediately.

“I honestly feel that the main reason for SPD keeping the shotgun is its monetary value as a famous or infamous weapon. Ever since Jack Ruby’s Colt .38 sold at auction for $220,000 in 1991, you can bet those with control over police evidence rooms have known that a famous crime gun is very desirable, and no factors of good taste need to be considered. The only real trick for coppers looking to score a choice bit of crime memorabilia is creating a paper trail that demonstrates that the object was unwanted, unclaimed, and destined for the trash. To date, apparently no one at SPD has had the nerve to concoct a scenario that would allow them to walk away with it, but don’t count them out yet.

“It was just a few months ago that we issued a press release about a lock of Cobain’s hair up for sale at a major memorabilia auction, arguing that the hair was related to Cobain’s homicide and was very possibly stolen property at one time. The sparse news coverage of our objections seems to have resulted in a last-minute pull of the item from the auction, a significant financial setback for someone, especially when you consider that a sweater worn by Cobain went for $140,800 on the same day.”

Lee received five black-and-white images through email from the Seattle City Attorney yesterday, with no indication that the images were to be made public, although the SPD Blotter website now shows all five photos in color, with this very brief explanation that seems to give the posting as originating two days ago (although directly above the photos SPD says the posting was yesterday):

Update 3/15/2016: The department is releasing five additional photographs of the firearm, taken on or about June 11, 2015. These photos were placed on the City’s computer system on March 3, 2016, and added to the investigative file shortly thereafter. They are now viewable in a gallery at the bottom of this post.

“SPD is saying nothing else, and has refused comment to the sole news organization that did a story so far today, CBS online, so we can expect that they will have nothing further to say for now,” says Lee.

“Nevertheless,” Lee says, “a few points about the photos should be made now, in addition to the obvious factor of the bizarre and illegal procedures by SPD.

· “I was not surprised at the general appearance of the gun, having seen what was called a twin example at the gun shop where the Cobain weapon was purchased in 1994. One element that did surprise is the inclusion of a choke tube extension at the end of the barrel, which its twin did not have. This raises questions about the ease of turning such a weapon into the face of a holder. In the photos, the gun now appears about 6 inches longer than I expected, and SPD Detective Mike Ciesynski does not deliberately strike a pose allowing for consideration of a “turn to face” measurement. But just look at the overall length in Ciesynski’s hands and you can see the problem—this is now a very long gun. If the trigger area is adjusted to be around his belt line, the end of the barrel is slightly above his head. A simple photo using a yardstick against the gun could have been included, but was not.

· “SPD long ago declared that the inspection of the gun yielded no usable fingerprints, according to one SPD official, due to a so-called ‘jerking motion’ occurring when Cobain supposedly pulled the trigger. Any hope that the object has been treated delicately ever since then is dashed by Ciesynski’s manhandling of the gun in the photos, which make him look less like a investigator than a proud owner. Rubber gloves aren’t magic, obviously, they can smear old fingerprints and/or residues (see footnote below).

· “The serial number stamped in metal on the gun matches the one on the receipt from the gun shop, which I won release of in 1994. So this appears to be the correct gun, although there are many rusty areas, especially in the loading slot and the choke tube, which make the gun look as if it has been improperly stored, not even sealed up in plastic, and perhaps stowed away in a secret, damp, dirty place. This is very odd, and seems to let SPD off the hook in terms of the gun being a potential source of biological evidence that should be there, such as blood spatter or mist, if the gun was ever really fired at all in 1994.”

Lee concludes, “After all these years of telling the public they had released all that could be released and had been fully forthcoming in every possible way, it is now obvious that the Seattle Police Department has been deceiving the public about its possession of a key piece of evidence, which, perhaps not coincidentally, has a value as a historical prize which we should assume is in the six figures at auction. So much for all that public relations rot about transparency at the SPD.”

FOOTNOTE: To quote a fairly random internet source on this: “Very old fingerprints may have lost all of their volatile residues, but the sodium chloride residue remains. Silver nitrate has been used successfully to develop latent prints that are years, decades, even centuries old. “
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A child is born with no state of mind.
  Moderator donderdag 14 maart 2019 @ 14:19:45 #66
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Je had toen die geruchten over de Poltergeist films.

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EXCLUSIVE: 'We were like a real brother and sister.' Poltergeist star speaks out on the most CURSED movie of all time that saw one child actress dead of cardiac arrest at age 12 and another strangled - as film reboot set to open
•Oliver Robbins played Robbie Freeling in the 1982 cult classic horror film
•He was the terrified brother of Heather O'Rourke, the girl possessed by an evil spirit residing in their family's TV set
•A series of tragic and bizarre events earned Poltergeist the reputation of being cursed
•Dominique Dunne, 22, was strangled by her boyfriend in the driveway of her West Hollywood home
•Lou Perryman was killed with an ax by an ex-convict in his own Austin, Texas home
•Spielberg's fear of clowns and scary looking trees inspired him to write creepy scenes for Robins' character
•The producer drew diagrams for Oliver to help him visualize scenes
https://www.dailymail.co.(...)reboot-set-open.html
Heather O'Rourke was het meest besproken.


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•Heather was acting in the eighties and she was not yet a tween, had hit films and television appearances / this matches
•ENT LAWYER claims this girl was first molested at 5 or 6, Heather was discovered by Steven Speilberg and had her first acting role at the age of 5 in a show called Fanatasy Island / this matches
•The exact television show set that these events occured on can not be verified 100% but the clues seem to lead to "Rocky Road" as it was filmed in the same studio as jeopardy (which is still running today) and Pewee Herman (who is alluded to for being busted masturbating in a theater) /this matches or at least makes sense
•A medic needed to be called because something had been instered into the girl which ended up eventually killing her / this could match as Heather died of bowel problems
http://humansarefree.com/(...)-of-poltergeist.html
De officiële doodsverklaring is de ziekte van Crohn.
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Illness and death

Inscription at O'Rourke's crypt
O'Rourke became ill with giardiasis in early 1987 and was later diagnosed as having Crohn's disease. She was prescribed a steroid to treat the disease during the time she was filming Poltergeist III.[18] On January 31, 1988, she began vomiting. The next morning she collapsed; she suffered cardiac arrest en route to the hospital and died later that day after surgery to repair an acute bowel obstruction caused by congenital stenosis of the intestine[19] complicated by septic shock.[4][20] She was entombed at Westwood Village Memorial Park Cemetery.[1]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heather_O%27Rourke


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  Moderator woensdag 24 juli 2019 @ 18:36:14 #67
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Vandaag in dr Phil ging het over de mysterieuze dood van Natalie Wood. Morgen verder.
Zal morgen eens kijken of ik de afleveringen kan linken.

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1s.gif Op donderdag 24 januari 2019 14:05 schreef SuperHartje het volgende:
Over Kurt Cobain
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update&foto's
Een complot mbt Kurt Cobain valt nog zo goed te onderbouwen maar een lied als Polly ademt eigenlijk al z'n einde. Ik meende altijd dat het over een papegaai ging maar het gaat over de verkrachting van een meisje door de ogen van de verkrachter, gebasseerd op een waargebeurd verhaal. Nu de lyrics terugluisterend met deze kennis snijdt zoiets door je ziel en dat moet ook meerdere malen hemzelf geknakt hebben.

Die man steunde daarnaast gevallenen zonder er exposure aan te geven en vond het mediacircus niets. Daarnaast vond hij dat ze sellouts waren geworden met Nevermind en daarna.

Hij droeg figuurlijk de wereld op z'n rug en ging empathisch te diep in werelden van ellende waar je jezelf gewoon niet in moet bewegen wil je je niet per dag in een depressie storten.
  Moderator dinsdag 30 juli 2019 @ 18:39:24 #69
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Dr. Phil aflevering is terug te zien op RTLXL volgens mij.
Beetje sensationeel, maar toch wel interessant artikel erover: https://www.google.nl/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/1304231002
A child is born with no state of mind.
  Moderator vrijdag 12 juni 2020 @ 21:08:31 #70
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Over Heath Ledgers dood is er ook wat onduidelijkheid. In de RTLZ docu, Hoe het echt gebeurd is, komt de zaak van Ledger naar voren.
Echte antwoorden krijgen we niet, maar wel wat meer belichting.

https://m.facebook.com/rtlz/videos/1482801758482498/

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At about 3:00 pm (EST), on 22 January 2008, Ledger was found unconscious in his bed by his housekeeper, Teresa Solomon, and his masseuse, Diana Wolozin, in his loft at 421 Broome Street in the SoHo neighborhood of Manhattan.[7][5]

According to the police, Wolozin, who had arrived early for a 3:00 pm appointment with Ledger, called Ledger's friend Mary-Kate Olsen for help. Olsen, who was in California, directed a New York City private security guard to go to the scene. At 3:26 pm, "less than 15 minutes after she first saw him in bed and only a few moments after the first call to Ms. Olsen", Wolozin telephoned 9-1-1 "to say that Mr. Ledger was not breathing". At the urging of the 9-1-1 operator, Wolozin administered CPR, which was unsuccessful in reviving him.[88]

Paramedics and emergency medical technicians arrived seven minutes later, at 3:33 pm ("at almost exactly the same moment as a private security guard summoned by Ms. Olsen") but were also unable to revive him.[7][88][89] At 3:36 pm, Ledger was pronounced dead, and his body was removed from the apartment.[7][88]

Autopsy and toxicology report
On 6 February 2008, the Office of the Chief Medical Examiner of New York released its conclusions. Those conclusions were based on an initial autopsy that occurred 23 January 2008 and a subsequent complete toxicological analysis.[8][90][91] The report concluded that Ledger died "as the result of acute intoxication by the combined effects of oxycodone, hydrocodone, diazepam, temazepam, alprazolam and doxylamine". It added: "We have concluded that the manner of death is accident, resulting from the abuse of prescribed medications."[8][10]

While the medications found in the toxicological analysis may be prescribed in the United States for insomnia, anxiety, pain, or common cold symptoms (doxylamine), the vast majority of physicians in the U.S. are extremely reluctant to prescribe multiple benzodiazepines (e.g., diazepam, alprazolam, and temazepam) to a single patient, let alone to prescribe such medications to a patient already taking a mix of oxycodone and hydrocodone. Although the Associated Press and other media reported that police had estimated that Ledger's death had occurred between 1 pm and 2:45 pm" on 22 January 2008,[92] the Medical Examiner's Office announced that it would not publicly disclose the official estimated time of death.[93][94] The official announcement of the cause and manner of Ledger's death heightened concerns about the growing problems of prescription drug abuse or misuse and combined drug intoxication (CDI).[9][91][95]

In 2017, Jason Payne-James, a forensic pathologist, asserted that Ledger might have survived if hydrocodone and oxycodone had been left out of the combination of drugs that the actor took just prior to his death.[96]

Federal investigation
Late in February 2008, a DEA investigation of medical professionals relating to Ledger's death exonerated two American physicians, who practice in Los Angeles and Houston, of any wrongdoing, determining that "the doctors in question had prescribed Ledger other medications – not the pills that killed him."[97][98]

On 4 August 2008, citing unnamed sources, Murray Weiss, of the New York Post, first reported that Mary-Kate Olsen had "refused [through her attorney, Michael C. Miller] to be interviewed by federal investigators probing the accidental drug death of her close friend Heath Ledger ... [without] ... immunity from prosecution" and that, when asked about the matter, Miller at first declined further comment.[99][100] Later that day, after the police confirmed the gist of Weiss's account to the Associated Press, Miller issued a statement denying that Olsen supplied Ledger with the drugs causing his death and asserting that she did not know their source.[101][102] In his statement, Miller said specifically, "Despite tabloid speculation, Mary-Kate Olsen had nothing whatsoever to do with the drugs found in Heath Ledger's home or his body, and she does not know where he obtained them," emphasizing that media "descriptions [attributed to an unidentified source] are incomplete and inaccurate."[103]

After a flurry of further media speculation, on 6 August 2008, the US Attorney's Office in Manhattan closed its investigation into Ledger's death without filing any charges and rendering moot its subpoena of Olsen.[104][105] With the clearing of the two doctors and Olsen, and the closing of the investigation because the prosecutors in the Manhattan US Attorney's Office "don't believe there's a viable target," it is still not known how Ledger obtained the oxycodone and hydrocodone in the lethal drug combination that killed him.[105][106]

Effect on fans
Eleven months after Ledger's death, on 23 December 2008, Jake Coyle, writing for the Associated Press, announced that "Heath Ledger's death was voted 2008's top entertainment story by U.S. newspaper and broadcast editors surveyed by The Associated Press". He claimed that this was partially a result of the "shock and confusion" surrounding the circumstances of Ledger's death, as well as due to Ledger's "legacy [...] in a roundly acclaimed performance as the Joker in the year's biggest box office hit The Dark Knight".[107]

Controversy over wil
After Ledger's death, in response to some press reports about his will, filed in New York City on 28 February 2008,[108][109] and his daughter's access to his financial legacy, his father, Kim Ledger, said that he considered the financial well-being of Heath's daughter Matilda Rose an "absolute priority", whilst also stating that her mother, Michelle Williams, was "an integral part of our family". He added, "They will be taken care of and that's how Heath would want it to be".[110] Some of Ledger's relatives may be challenging the legal status of his will signed in 2003, prior to his involvement with Williams and the birth of their daughter and not updated to include them, which divides half of his estate between his parents and half among his siblings; they claim that there is a second, unsigned will, which leaves most of that estate to Matilda Rose.[111][112] Williams' father, Larry Williams, has also joined the controversy about Ledger's will as it was filed in New York City soon after his death.[113]

On 31 March 2008, stimulating another controversy pertaining to Ledger's estate, Gemma Jones and Janet Fife-Yeomans published an "Exclusive" report, in The Daily Telegraph, citing Ledger's uncle Haydn Ledger and other family members, who "believe the late actor may have fathered a secret love child" when he was 17, and stating that "If it is confirmed that Ledger is the girl's biological father, it could split his multi-million dollar estate between ... Matilda Rose ... and his secret love child."[114][115][116] A few days later, reports citing telephone interviews with Ledger's uncles Haydn and Mike Ledger and the family of the other little girl, published in OK! and Us Weekly, "denied" those "claims", with Ledger's uncles and the little girl's mother and stepfather describing them as unfounded "rumors" distorted and exaggerated by the media.[117][118]

On 15 July 2008, Fife-Yeomans reported further, via Australian News Limited, that "While Ledger left everything to his parents and three sisters, it is understood they have legal advice that under Western Australia law, Matilda Rose is entitled to the lion's share" of his estate; its executors, Kim Ledger's former business colleague Robert John Collins and Geraldton accountant William Mark Dyson, "have applied for probate in the West Australian Supreme Court in Perth, advertising for 'creditors and other persons' having claims on the estate to lodge them by 11 August 2008 ... to ensure all debts are paid before the estate is distributed...."[119] According to this report by Fife-Yeomans, earlier reports citing Ledger's uncles,[110] and subsequent reports citing Ledger's father, which do not include his actual posthumous earnings, "his entire fortune, mostly held in Australian trusts, is likely to be worth up to $20 million."[119][120][121]

On 27 September 2008, Ledger's father Kim stated that "the family has agreed to leave the US$16.3 million fortune to Matilda," adding: "There is no claim. Our family has gifted everything to Matilda."[120][121] In October 2008, Forbes estimated Ledger's annual earnings from October 2007 through October 2008 – including his posthumous share of The Dark Knight's gross income of "US$1 billion in box office revenue worldwide" – as "US$20 million".[122]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heath_Ledger
Voor zover ik weet gelooft de familie van Ledger niet in de zelfmoord- analyse.
A child is born with no state of mind.
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1s.gif Op vrijdag 12 juni 2020 21:08 schreef SuperHartje het volgende:
Over Heath Ledgers dood is er ook wat onduidelijkheid. In de RTLZ docu, Hoe het echt gebeurd is, komt de zaak van Ledger naar voren.
Echte antwoorden krijgen we niet, maar wel wat meer belichting.

https://m.facebook.com/rtlz/videos/1482801758482498/
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Voor zover ik weet gelooft de familie van Ledger niet in de zelfmoord- analyse.
Interessant, maar klinkt een beetje als pulp eerlijk gezegd. De insinuatie is dus dat hij is overleden aan een overdosis, of zou er meer achter zitten?
  Moderator vrijdag 12 juni 2020 @ 21:31:03 #72
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Interessant, maar klinkt een beetje als pulp eerlijk gezegd. De insinuatie is dus dat hij is overleden aan een overdosis, of zou er meer achter zitten?
Ja combi van medicijnen/ drugs.

Hij woonde destijds met Mary-Kate Olsen en de werkster vond hem. Samen met de masseuse die een afspraak met Ledger had en die Mary-Kate inlichtte.

Ja op het 1e gezicht niet echt hele onlogische omstandigheden, maar wel een docu die ik de moeite waard vond.
A child is born with no state of mind.
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