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Samenzwering, verborgen agenda's en geheime geschiedenis. De zoektocht naar de wereld die achter de façade van alledag ligt.
Als je er over nadenkt zeker ja. Een kernwapen is op dezelfde principes gebaseerd als waar een kerncentrale zijn energie vandaan haalt. Dus als kernwapens niet bestaan, hoe zit het dan met kernenergie? En als dat niet echt is, zitten al de medewerkers van kerncentrales wereldwijd in een complot? En niet alleen die, maar ook de mensen die de (inter)national power grids reguleren. Dat zijn nogal wat mensen wereldwijd. Daarnaast is er nog het kleine punt van zoveel landen sinds WO2 die dan allemaal mee hebben gedaan aan het nuke complot, ook landen die openlijk elkaar's vijand waren of zijn.quote:Op zondag 11 november 2018 18:53 schreef theguyver het volgende:
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Eigenlijk als je het verder gaat ontleden, kom je op energie terrecht. Dus welke vorm van energie creatie kan wel en welke kan niet.
Egregious professor of Cruel and Unusual Geography
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Ah yes,you mean the video with the gamer-scientist who couldn't get Einsteins first name right and hasn't even bothered to correct his howling mistake. If a history teacher for example stated that the German leader Randolph Hitler ordered the invasion of Poland in 1939, I would at least question and wouldn't really be able to take anything else seriously of what the history teacher might have to say.quote:Op zondag 11 november 2018 09:51 schreef ATuin-hek het volgende:
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Riiiight, want daar ben je echt zo geïnteresseerd in.... Daarom vond je het nodig om de boodschapper af te kraken, in plaats van inhoudelijk op de boodschap te reageren toen ik die eerste video uit de nukes voor dummies reeks postte.
The video you posted where for the first 3 minutes he goes on about video-'astro'games (of which you are also a fan?) and a science FICTION book by H.G. Wells. Then he goes into some scientific jargon which not that many people will really understand (and those who do are just pretending to do so) and talks a lot about theories and possibilities. At no point throughout the 14 minutes does he mention anything at all about EMP or any nuclear EMP tests being carried out by anyone.
The video you posted says absolutely nothing to support your claims of 'vooral EMP' (as an effect of a 'nuclear' bomb) or the 'veel info' that the Soviets allegedly collected during the Project K 'nuclear' tests.
EMP - Electromagnetic Pulse - What is it?
https://www.vtyoob.com/video/SOC8kNpRhZ0
Seems like a yet another load of fearmongering bullshit.
All theory and theatre and still no evidence.
Yet you still seem to believe it. You are assuming that the theory and everything we are told about it, is true. You are nothing more than a scientistic-fantasist gamer.
Stop talking through your hat.
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Aaaahhhh dus je begrijpt het gewoon niet? Dat kan ook, is geen schande.quote:
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Then he goes into some scientific jargon which not that many people will really understand (and those who do are just pretending to do so) and talks a lot about theories and possibilities.
Waarom zou die video over EMP moeten gaan?quote:At no point throughout the 14 minutes does he mention anything at all about EMP or any nuclear EMP tests being carried out by anyone.
The video you posted says absolutely nothing to support your claims of 'vooral EMP' (as an effect of a 'nuclear' bomb) or the 'veel info' that the Soviets allegedly collected during the Project K 'nuclear' tests.
EMP - Electromagnetic Pulse - What is it?
https://www.vtyoob.com/video/SOC8kNpRhZ0
Seems like a yet another load of fearmongering bullshit.
All theory and theatre and still no evidence.
Yet you still seem to believe it. You are assuming that the theory and everything we are told about it, is true. You are nothing more than a scientistic-fantasist gamer.
Stop talking through your hat.
Maar goed, dit is wel weer een voorbeeld van niet op de inhoud reageren, en afleiden met bijzaken. Ik heb ondertussen een bescheiden begrip ja van de natuurkunde basics achter kernwapens. Die kerel weet het redelijk begrijpelijk uit te leggen, wat zeker kan helpen in dit topic.
Egregious professor of Cruel and Unusual Geography
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Still nothing of the 'veel info' about 'vooral EMP' to post then.quote:
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Aaaahhhh dus je begrijpt het gewoon niet? Dat kan ook, is geen schande.
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Waarom zou die video over EMP moeten gaan?
I might respond when if you eventually post anything of interest to back up the claims you made. Until then - adios.
In the new 'reality' we will be living in,nothing will be real and everything will be true-David A.McGowan
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
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Dat heb ik toch al gedaan? Jouw bron claimde dat die VS test de enige was, dat was duidelijk onzin gezien de sovjet tests. Wat wil je dan nog meer?quote:
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Still nothing of the 'veel info' about 'vooral EMP' to post then.
I might respond when if you eventually post anything of interest to back up the claims you made. Until then - adios.
Egregious professor of Cruel and Unusual Geography
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Onikaan ni ov dovah
No.Absolutely NOT. All you have done is make a couple of completely unsubstantiated claims and expect people to take your word for it.quote:
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Dat heb ik toch al gedaan? Jouw bron claimde dat die VS test de enige was, dat was duidelijk onzin gezien de sovjet tests. Wat wil je dan nog meer?
In the new 'reality' we will be living in,nothing will be real and everything will be true-David A.McGowan
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Meer dan genoeg om een stroman argument omver te werpen.quote:
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No.Absolutely NOT. All you have done is make a couple of completely unsubstantiated claims and expect people to take your word for it.
Maar goed, hier komen we blijkbaar niet uit. Hoe denk je dan over alle andere problemen met de no-nukes hypothese? Hoe verklaar je bijvoorbeeld de ionospherische verstoringen bij een high-altitude explosie. Hoe verklaar je de double flash bij een atmosferische explosie. En ook een leuke, waar denk je dat kernenergie vandaan komt?
Egregious professor of Cruel and Unusual Geography
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Ik ben ook wel benieuwd of kerncentrales stiekem op kolen draaien. 
Als je in de scheikunde ervan duikt, zou er dan nooit een professor zijn geweest die het bestaan van nucleaire bommen heeft getracht te ontkennen? Dit is toch veel te groot om stil te houden?
Als je in de scheikunde ervan duikt, zou er dan nooit een professor zijn geweest die het bestaan van nucleaire bommen heeft getracht te ontkennen? Dit is toch veel te groot om stil te houden?
Vanzelfsprekend zou dat al lang uitgekomen zijn.quote:
Ik ben ook wel benieuwd of kerncentrales stiekem op kolen draaien.
Als je in de scheikunde ervan duikt, zou er dan nooit een professor zijn geweest die het bestaan van nucleaire bommen heeft getracht te ontkennen? Dit is toch veel te groot om stil te houden?
Nee natuurlijk gebeurt dat niet, ze moeten ook al ruimtereizen in scène zetten en Dino botten verstoppen in de grond, daar zijn ze al druk zat mee.quote:
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Vanzelfsprekend zou dat al lang uitgekomen zijn.
Om maar te zwijgen over doktoren en artsen die te maken hebben met radioactiviteit.
Er staat nog een vraag voor u open!!
Ja, druk zat.quote:
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Nee natuurlijk gebeurt dat niet, ze moeten ook al ruimtereizen in scène zetten en Dino botten verstoppen in de grond, daar zijn ze al druk zat mee.
Om maar te zwijgen over doktoren en artsen die te maken hebben met radioactiviteit.
Because I asked you specifically to provide information to back up your claim that EMP is a major effect from an atomic bomb.quote:
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Waarom zou die video over EMP moeten gaan?
That was weeks ago and you still havent got anywhere near doing so.
Nuclear EMP is a scaremongering, alarmist theory and you should know that.
If you were honest you would have admitted that you could not find any info after all.
Then I would not have had to ask you several times when you continued to evade the question.
And you are still trying to snake out of it.
In the new 'reality' we will be living in,nothing will be real and everything will be true-David A.McGowan
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Off topic.quote:
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Nee natuurlijk gebeurt dat niet, ze moeten ook al ruimtereizen in scène zetten en Dino botten verstoppen in de grond, daar zijn ze al druk zat mee.
Om maar te zwijgen over doktoren en artsen die te maken hebben met radioactiviteit.
In the new 'reality' we will be living in,nothing will be real and everything will be true-David A.McGowan
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Oh ja and what are your opinions about nuclear EMP?quote:
In the new 'reality' we will be living in,nothing will be real and everything will be true-David A.McGowan
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
En dus mag ik geen andere meer algemene video's van jou posten?quote:
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Because I asked you specifically to provide information to back up your claim that EMP is a major effect from an atomic bomb.
That was weeks ago and you still havent got anywhere near doing so.
Nuclear EMP is a scaremongering, alarmist theory and you should know that.
If you were honest you would have admitted that you could not find any info after all.
Then I would not have had to ask you several times when you continued to evade the question.
And you are still trying to snake out of it.
Doe eens even normaal zeg.
Egregious professor of Cruel and Unusual Geography
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Onikaan ni ov dovah
Weet er niet genoeg van af om daar een oordeel over te geven.quote:
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Oh ja and what are your opinions about nuclear EMP?
Here's a little more information for anyone else out there who is genuinely interested in the 'veel info' about the 'vooral EMP' effects of an 'atomic' bomb....
Effect of the FAST NUCLEAR ELECTROMAGNETIC PULSE on the
Electric Power Grid Nationwide: A Different View
https://arxiv.org/pdf/physics/0307127.pdf
I haven't looked much into the modern/recent 'nuclear EMP' aspects and the perpetuators of the quite present EMP nuclear theoretical/theatrical baloney, but it seems to be a bit neocon/Trumpish. But thats's not important.
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Effect of the FAST NUCLEAR ELECTROMAGNETIC PULSE on the
Electric Power Grid Nationwide: A Different View
https://arxiv.org/pdf/physics/0307127.pdf
There's a lot of scientific jargon (that I for one don't pretend to understand) in the excerpts of the above paper, but I am a mere non-scientistically educated soul.quote:'This paper primarily considers the potential effects of a single high-altitude
nuclear burst on the U.S. power grid. A comparison is made between EMP and
natural phenomena such as lightning. This paper concludes that EMP is no more
harmful to the power grid than its counterparts in nature. An upper limit of the
electric field of the very fast, high-amplitude EMP is derived from first principles.
The resulting values are significantly lower than the commonly presented values.
Additional calculations show that the ionization produced by a nuclear burst
severely attenuates the EMP”
p.17 :
SENATE HEARINGS
'As mentioned earlier, the Senate Hearings of 1963 [9] shed considerable light on what happened during Starfish and the other nuclear bomb tests near Hawaii in 1962. Nowhere in the 981 pages of sworn testimony and Senatorial comments does it mention the popping of circuit breakers, the downing of power lines, or any electrical disturbance on the Hawaiian utility system. Streetlights are not even mentioned.'
'Although the United States has conducted only one high-altitude, high-yield nuclear test, Starfish, the Soviet Union (and probably others) have conducted many such tests. EMP does not recognize national borders. Many bordering and nearby countries have been within the line-of-sight horizon of the Soviet EMP producing nuclear bursts. Yet, there have been no EMP complaints from these countries.
There have been no reported power or communication outages caused by these tests.'
p.20 :
CONCLUSION
'The energy of the TEMP is one millionth of the bomb's energy release spread out over
millions of square miles. Certainly, the lack of damage to both the power and the
communications systems in Hawaii from the 1.4-Mt Starfish blast counters the view that the
effects of EMP are devastating to such systems.'
'Based upon the analyses presented in this paper and in Refs. [7-81, it appears highly
improbable if not impossible that the EMP from a single nuclear burst could blackout this
nation's power grid. It would be practically impossible for the EMP to cause widespread damage to the U.S. transmission line system. '
I haven't looked much into the modern/recent 'nuclear EMP' aspects and the perpetuators of the quite present EMP nuclear theoretical/theatrical baloney, but it seems to be a bit neocon/Trumpish. But thats's not important.
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In the new 'reality' we will be living in,nothing will be real and everything will be true-David A.McGowan
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
I didn't say that at all.quote:
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En dus mag ik geen andere meer algemene video's van jou posten?
You should take your own 'doe eens even normaal' advies. Zeg.
In the new 'reality' we will be living in,nothing will be real and everything will be true-David A.McGowan
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Hoe denk jij over kernenergie?quote:
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I didn't say that at all.
You should take your own 'doe eens even normaal' advies. Zeg.
Egregious professor of Cruel and Unusual Geography
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Like I said - I'm more interested in the effects of 'atomic' bombs right now.quote:
Please feel free to join in the discussion if you think you may have anything interesting or constructive to contribute.
In the new 'reality' we will be living in,nothing will be real and everything will be true-David A.McGowan
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Dit is een effect van een atoombomb, het vrijkomen van energie. Het enige verschil is het tempo, en wat er mee gedaan wordt, dus zeker heel relevant voor de vraag of kernwapens bestaan.quote:
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Like I said - I'm more interested in the effects of 'atomic' bombs right now.
Please feel free to join in the discussion if you think you may have anything interesting or constructive to contribute.
Egregious professor of Cruel and Unusual Geography
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'Sorry' to disappoint you, but I have way more trust in the other sources of information I have found rather than the wishy-washy claims that you have made for the last month or so. Or even the last 6 years since I've been posting here for that matter.quote:
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Dit is een effect van een atoombomb, het vrijkomen van energie. Het enige verschil is het tempo, en wat er mee gedaan wordt, dus zeker heel relevant voor de vraag of kernwapens bestaan.
In the new 'reality' we will be living in,nothing will be real and everything will be true-David A.McGowan
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Wacht, wat dispute je hier nou precies?quote:
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'Sorry' to disappoint you, but I have way more trust in the other sources of information I have found rather than the wishy-washy claims that you have made for the last month or so. Or even the last 6 years since I've been posting here for that matter.
Dat energie vrijkomt bij een kernexplosie?
Egregious professor of Cruel and Unusual Geography
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I'm disputing your 'vooral EMP' and 'veel info' claims for now.quote:
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Wacht, wat dispute je hier nou precies?
Not so fast Batman.
Maybe you can elaborate more on the other effects of an atomic bomb....apart from your Billy Big Balls type 'vooral EMP' claiim.
In the new 'reality' we will be living in,nothing will be real and everything will be true-David A.McGowan
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Ja dat weten we ondertussen wel. Maar wat vind je van kernenergie?quote:
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I'm disputing your 'vooral EMP' and 'veel info' claims for now.
Not so fast Batman.
Maybe you can elaborate more on the other effects of an atomic bomb....apart from your Billy Big Balls type 'vooral EMP' claiim.
Egregious professor of Cruel and Unusual Geography
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Onikaan ni ov dovah
