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[ Bericht 6% gewijzigd door Nober op 03-12-2017 17:53:28 ]
Zou het ook z'n vrouw zijn als hij een normale baan had?quote:
quote:Op zondag 3 december 2017 06:46 schreef Nober het volgende:
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Zou het ook z'n vrouw zijn als hij een normale baan had?
zo, kevin lee weegt 250?quote:
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Zou het ook z'n vrouw zijn als hij een normale baan had?
Max, met die goofie oren, krijgt nog niet eens een zwerfkat mee
Maar da's niet de moeder van z'n zoon toch?quote:
ach, ze is alleen maar Miss hawai, ja die Max is een snoepert
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Edit: Nee, ze is wel een tante.
[ Bericht 1% gewijzigd door Nober op 03-12-2017 07:10:18 ]
die eerdere vrouw van hem is lesbisch gewordenquote:
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Maar da's niet de moeder van z'n zoon toch?
Edit: Nee, ze is wel een tante.
https://www.telegraaf.nl/sport/1385556/mokerslag-voor-overeem
https://www.skoften.net/i(...)ck_out_tegen_francis
https://sportnieuws.nl/ve(...)een-ko-eerste-ronde/
[ Bericht 49% gewijzigd door THEFXR op 03-12-2017 11:27:58 ]
https://www.mma-core.com/(...)ight_Part_2/10201257
https://www.mma-core.com/(...)ight_Part_2/10201248
Overeem vs Willis, Lewis, Volkov, Cain... Nog genoeg gevechten voor hem.
[ Bericht 33% gewijzigd door Nober op 03-12-2017 13:54:33 ]
twitter:Alistairovereem twitterde op zondag 03-12-2017 om 08:27:48No damage and all healthy thankfully.. unfortunately lost today. Props to @francis_ngannou, I got hit with a upperc… https://t.co/ErDglR9Hik reageer retweet
Felder heeft diepliggende aderenquote:
Ik begrijp niet waarom de choke van Charles niet werkte bij Felder.
Volkan
diaz 3 = meer $quote:
N'Gannou op de plek van Cerrone.
Als ik iemand niet kan uitstaan is het die arrogante zak wel.
Aldo mag ook wel stoppen nu hoor.
p.quote:The UFC is such a fucking joke right now.
1. Heavyweight: The champ can't get a fight because WME knows dick about marketing and won't pay him.
2. LHW: The champ is at the tail end of his career, his only challenger is a thrice-busted PED/cocaine junkie who is pissing his life away.
3. MW: The champ is the most popular welterweight of all time, with the belt having been up in the air and split for nearly two years, and neither champ nor interim champ having a challenger or defense lined up.
4. WW: TyroneLOLWTFOMG
5. LW: LMAO. Conor's never coming back.
6. FW; Real champ who just defended his belt in spectacular fashion. WME has no idea how to market it.
7. BW: The champ is preparing for a "superfight" against the 125-pound snooze machine that nobody ever watches anyways.
8: Women's FW: OMGCYBORGLOL, plus three other women.
9: Women's BW: Juiced-up Brazilian lesbian
10: Women's 125: Placeholder until a real fighter drops down or moves up. Hopefully 2018 will have a bright spot and Meisha will return to claim this division.
11: Women's 115: THUG ROSE MOTHERFUCKERS. A real fighter, real champ, real division with real contenders. WME will screw this u
Aldo postfight, die is echt kapot geslagen zeg
idd, dat zitten best een paar littekens bijquote:
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Aldo postfight, die is echt kapot geslagen zeg
1:25 p.m. -- Dustin Poirier will talk about his desire to fight Alvarez next, his recent win over Anthony Pettis, and more.
1:45 p.m. -- Luke Rockhold will update us on his place in the middleweight division.
2:05 p.m. -- Welsh fighter Brett Johns will discuss his calf slicer victory on Friday and what's next for him.
2:25 p.m. -- Roxanne Modafferi will reflect on her loss in the UFC's inaugural women's flyweight fight.
2:45 p.m. -- Volkan Oezdemir will discuss his recent out-of-cage issues and his upcoming title fight against Daniel Cormier.
3:05 p.m. -- Sijara Eubanks will join us in studio about failing to make weight prior to Friday's TUF Finale and what's next for her.
4:00 p.m. -- Valentina Shevchenko will discuss her move down to flyweight and what's next for her.
4:15 p.m. -- Max Holloway will talk about his UFC 218 win over Jose Aldo and his future plans.
4:35 p.m. -- Ric's Picks.
5:00 p.m. -- The MMA (After) Hour will air exclusively on Twitter. We’ll answer your questions sent via the hashtag #themmahour. Watch the segment live https://twitter.com/i/events/925006455333203968
Wat zijn die benen lol, dit is het origineelquote:
mooie shoop tochquote:
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Wat zijn die benen lol, dit is het origineel
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A flyweight bout between Tim Elliot and Justin Scoggins was expected to take place at this event; however it was announced on December 4, 2017 that Scoggins was pulled from the fight, citing spinal fracture injury and he is replaced by Pietro Menga (13-0, 11 finishes).
Geen Alvarez.quote:
1:00 p.m. ET -- Recap UFC 218.
1:25 p.m. -- Dustin Poirier will talk about his desire to fight Alvarez next, his recent win over Anthony Pettis, and more.
1:45 p.m. -- Luke Rockhold will update us on his place in the middleweight division.
2:05 p.m. -- Welsh fighter Brett Johns will discuss his calf slicer victory on Friday and what's next for him.
2:25 p.m. -- Roxanne Modafferi will reflect on her loss in the UFC's inaugural women's flyweight fight.
2:45 p.m. -- Volkan Oezdemir will discuss his recent out-of-cage issues and his upcoming title fight against Daniel Cormier.
3:05 p.m. -- Sijara Eubanks will join us in studio about failing to make weight prior to Friday's TUF Finale and what's next for her.
4:00 p.m. -- Valentina Shevchenko will discuss her move down to flyweight and what's next for her.
4:15 p.m. -- Max Holloway will talk about his UFC 218 win over Jose Aldo and his future plans.
4:35 p.m. -- Ric's Picks.
5:00 p.m. -- The MMA (After) Hour will air exclusively on Twitter. We’ll answer your questions sent via the hashtag #themmahour. Watch the segment live https://twitter.com/i/events/925006455333203968
[ Bericht 42% gewijzigd door Nober op 04-12-2017 18:40:39 ]
Mja zit wel een kern van waarheid in helaas. Maar als de komende evenementen ook maar in de buurt komen van de laatste ben ik tevreden hoorquote:
...en hoe vet zou een superfight tegen Ferguson zijn.
ja, daar heb ik ook aan gedacht het afgelopen jaar. Ferguson vs Holloway, allebei 1m80. Ik denk toch dat Ferguson de betere is, i.i.g. met grappling en incasseringsvermogen.quote:
Wel mooi om te horen dat Holloway nog steeds humble bleef toen Joe aan hem vroeg of hij zich nu kan vergelijken met de P4P greatest.
...en hoe vet zou een superfight tegen Ferguson zijn.
heb je een persoonlijke ervaring met hem gehad of van horen zeggen?quote:
Wat ben ik blij dat die Overeem gestrekt ging.
Als ik iemand niet kan uitstaan is het die arrogante zak wel.
Aldo mag ook wel stoppen nu hoor.
Met Yvel daarentegen..
Vond hem vooral vroeger tijdens de K1 periode inderdaad wat arrogant, nadat hij opeens mega gegroeid was. Dat is hoe hij in de media overkwam dan. Ik was dan ook Remy fan (geen idee of die aan de spulletjes zat). Hele aardige chille gast is dat in de omgang, persoonlijke ervaring.quote:
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heb je een persoonlijke ervaring met hem gehad of van horen zeggen?
Ik ken hem persoonlijk niet nee. Maar ben hem 2 keer op Schiphol bij de douane tegen gekomen.quote:
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heb je een persoonlijke ervaring met hem gehad of van horen zeggen?
Beide keren deed hij moeilijk om door de body scan te gaan, want "weten jullie niet wie ik ben.
Ik hoef helemaal niet door jullie body scan. Jullie weten toch wie ik ben. Ik vertegenwoordig jullie land" en zo bleef hij maar ratelen.
binnen of buiten de gym?quote:
Ik heb nooit problemen met Alistair gehad.
Met Yvel daarentegen..
7 inch reach advantage.quote:
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ja, daar heb ik ook aan gedacht het afgelopen jaar. Ferguson vs Holloway, allebei 1m80. Ik denk toch dat Ferguson de betere is, i.i.g. met grappling en incasseringsvermogen.
19cm, dat ook nog ja. Ik zou best geld willen inzetten voor winst Ferguson, mocht het gevecht komen. Maar hij zal wel torenhoog favoriet worden, zodat ik weinig geld zal gaan winnenquote:
Fergie wordt toch vaak op zijn kop wordt geraakt, zelfs door wrestler Kevin Lee.quote:
Max heeft fast too furious in zijn handen.
turbo en nitro erop en daar gaan zijn handen, sneller dan het licht wordt Aldo's kop kapot geslagen.
Alsof superman bezig is.
Binnen. Die gozer trapte jochies van 16/17 afquote:
Ali had ook zo zijn slechte dagen in de gymquote:
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Binnen. Die gozer trapte jochies van 16/17 af
Die heb ik niet meegemaakt. Ik trainde niet in Yvel zijn gym, maar was een keer mee geweest met een vriend van me die daar wel trainde. Na die training had ik gekneusde ribben en twee dagen bloed in mijn ontlasting. En dat is zo'n 15 jaar geleden, toen ik 17 was en 65 kilo woog.quote:
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Ali had ook zo zijn slechte dagen in de gym
Alistair heb ik maar een paar keer gezien, nooit mee getraind. Wel met Valentijn. Die was destijds nog de grote jongen in plaats van zijn broer, omdat hij een UFC kampioen had verslagen
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dat is gewoon mishandelingquote:
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Die heb ik niet meegemaakt. Ik trainde niet in Yvel zijn gym, maar was een keer mee geweest met een vriend van me die daar wel trainde. Na die training had ik gekneusde ribben en twee dagen bloed in mijn ontlasting. En dat is zo'n 15 jaar geleden, toen ik 17 was en 65 kilo woog.
Vooral Velasquez vs. Overeem kan best interessant zijn...
ik vermoed dat cain retired is en Cees even 6 maanden vakantie na die zware KOquote:
Sean Shelby's Shoes: What's next for Jose Aldo and UFC 218's other losing fighters?
Vooral Velasquez vs. Overeem kan best interessant zijn...
Ik vind het sowieso geen fijne matchup, zeker niet voor Overeem. Ik zie dat gevecht net zo gaan als Overeem vs. Shogun, met het verschil dat Cain een heavyweight monster is.quote:
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ik vermoed dat cain retired is en Cees even 6 maanden vakantie na die zware KO
En na die Shogun KO kon hij al niet op eigen benen staan. Jaren geleden stond er op YouTube een video van Overeem na dat gevecht, waarin hij volledig van de wereld was.
[ Bericht 11% gewijzigd door Splackavellie02 op 06-12-2017 11:21:17 ]
Wel een mogelijke title eliminator, eerst maar eens Miocic vs N'Gannou.quote:
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ik vermoed dat cain retired is en Cees even 6 maanden vakantie na die zware KO
Deze? Damn..quote:Op woensdag 6 december 2017 10:54 schreef Splackavellie02 het volgende:
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En na die Shogun KO kon hij al niet op eigen benen staan. Jaren geleden stond er op YouTube een video van Overeem na dat gevecht, waarin hij volledig van de wereld was.
Wordt een mooie partij! Sowieso wel team Swanson. Ik hoop dat 'ie wint en z'n contract gewoon gaat verlengen.quote:
Gewicht missen en een knieblessure oplopen bedoel je?quote:
Winnaar Miocic vs N'Gannou tegen Cain. Cain die dan de stijl van Khabib gaat uitvoeren.
Zit een hoop hype op die gast. Vecht wel lekker agressief... maar ik krijg een beetje het idee dat hij een beetje overhyped is. Net zoals Sage Northcut
je klinkt als Dana, met je title eliminatorquote:
Hopelijk wint Ortega van Cub.
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Wel een mogelijke title eliminator, eerst maar eens Miocic vs N'Gannou.
die gast heeft geen defense, Bob zou zijn longen kapot schreeuwen.hou die handen hoog!quote:
Wat vinden jullie trouwens van Sean O'Malley
Zit een hoop hype op die gast. Vecht wel lekker agressief... maar ik krijg een beetje het idee dat hij een beetje overhyped is. Net zoals Sage Northcut
Hij oogt zo slungelig, maar ik vind z'n explosiviteit en head movement wel nice. Wel soms te overmoedig. Hij was ook enorm snel moe afgelopen vrijdag...quote:
Wat vinden jullie trouwens van Sean O'Malley
Zit een hoop hype op die gast. Vecht wel lekker agressief... maar ik krijg een beetje het idee dat hij een beetje overhyped is. Net zoals Sage Northcut
With the UFC’s seven-year contract with FOX expiring at the end of next year, the company is in talks with a number of networks and hopes to wrap up a deal shortly.
The UFC is in the midst of negotiating a contract that will do more to determine its long-term economic success than any other for perhaps a half dozen or more years.
The seven-year television contract between the UFC and FOX expires on Dec. 31, 2018. According to sources close to the situation, the UFC is hoping to have a new deal at least verbally agreed to by the end of this month, or at worst, in early 2018.
Unlike most major sports, where television revenue is far and away the leading source of income, the UFC has had two major revenue streams: Its television deals, particularly in the U.S. and Brazil, and revenue from pay-per-view.
But long-term, since pay-per-view is so unpredictable — almost entirely predicated on a few major stars who themselves often seem bent on self-destruction — television looks to be the key as we go forward.
Sports Business Journal reported recently that the UFC's exclusive negotiation window with FOX expired in October and the company has opened talks with a number of potential suitors.
The story indicated that the UFC, which will receive $160 million from FOX in 2018, the final year of the current deal, could have gotten an increase to $200 million on a multi-year contract from FOX. The UFC had been seeking anywhere from $420 million to $450 million for U.S. television rights. It was a belief that they would get a sizeable increase that pushed the bidding for ownership last year to reach just under $4 billion last year.
But so much is about timing.
In 2016, the prevailing opinion in television was that people were scared of the future. Between more and more DVR usage — meaning people were less likely to be watching advertising — and more competition as people familiarize themselves with streaming content, there was great concern about the economic future of television as it had been for decades. And there still is.
Live sports were considered the saving grace. The idea is that live sports were DVR proof, and thus, rights fees for sports started skyrocketing as networks went to sign long-term deals with the NFL, NBA, MLB, NHL, NASCAR and major college football and basketball. The skyrocketing numbers came at a time when the UFC was locked up with its FOX deal, with numbers that looked great in 2011 when it was put together, but not nearly so great by 2016 standards.
The positive is with the other major sports all locked in for many years to come, the UFC would be the lone major sports franchise up for grabs at a time when interest from major television conglomerates looking to lock up long-term deals for live sports was peaking. Currently, the UFC runs anywhere from two to five-plus hours of live prime time programming most Saturday nights.
And, the company was loaded with stars. Conor McGregor was a phenomenon as a draw, and Ronda Rousey wasn't far behind. While not as big a draw, Jon Jones was just entering his prime, could draw big with the right opponent, and was viewed by many as the greatest fighter in history. Georges St-Pierre, one of the company's biggest drawing cards in history, was all over the news talking a comeback. Even more attractive to television is that women fighters like Miesha Tate, Holly Holm, and Paige VanZant had proven they could headline events and draw strong television numbers. And the UFC was still reaching a younger audience than most major sports, which theoretically looked good for the future.
The television industry itself, whether it was sports or entertainment programming, had become accustomed to numbers for most things eroding. Yet, the UFC was appearing to be on the ascent, and more importantly, its fan base showed no sign of burning out over the endless hours of content.
While FS1 main cards were almost unchanged from 2015 to 2016, increasing 0.6 percent, the prelims were up 9.7 percent, averaging 996,000 and 767,500 viewers respectively. Essentially that meant the UFC’s audience was more willing to watch more hours of Saturday night programming than ever before.
The FOX shows were up six percent, to a 3,005,000 average, and increased from four shows to six, including a taped replay of a pay-per-view event on Christmas Eve that did phenomenal numbers.
UFC president Dana White recently scoffed at talk of the company having a bad year in 2017 economically, saying it was the best financial year in company history. For straight profit and loss, when you consider a combination of all the cost-cutting, the annual escalators in the television contract and the company's cut of the McGregor vs. Floyd Mayweather windfall, this easily could be the most profitable year in company history. But the UFC is not as popular.
Timing is everything. Had the UFC's contract expired a year earlier, and potential suitors were looking at last year's numbers and the growth, the value of the new television contract would be sky high.
But FOX offering only a modest increase is because one year later, everything looks very different. While there are exceptions with some major events, televised sports aren't holding up as well as hoped for, and the UFC has hardly been an exception. At the same time, the number of people with access to the major cable channels is falling, most notably with ESPN, a company that has had two recent rounds of major layoffs, but also figured to have interest in the UFC for the next contract term.
ESPN is faced with substantial declines in accessible homes, which its main revenue stream is based upon. ESPN is also on the hook for gigantic long-term contracts, numbers that escalate for years to come, most notably its NFL and NBA deals. This may not be the time for ESPN to add another expensive money deal.
Thus far in 2017, with two FS1 shows and one FOX show left, the FS1 main cards are averaging 866,000 viewers, down 13.1 percent. The prelims of the FS1 shows are averaging 722,000 viewers, down 5.9 percent. FOX specials are down 30.9 percent to 2,077,000. Pay-per-view is down even more, but those numbers really aren't significant when it comes to a new television deal.
The only close to encouraging sign is those who are watching FS1 on Saturday this year are, on average, even more apt to watch the prelims than even last year.
Worse, the starpower going forward is a lot less secure. White openly said recently that he didn't know if McGregor would ever fight again, and hoped Rousey wouldn't. Jones is facing his second drug suspension and could be a nonentity for some time to come. St-Pierre eventually did come back, which was a positive. On the women's side, Tate retired, Holm kept losing and her drawing power on FOX declined greatly from the prior year, and the celebrity boost VanZant got off her strong showing on "Dancing With The Stars" has faded.
Still, as White has pointed out, the history is that new stars will emerge. The reality is that the shelf life on top of most stars is going to be only a few years, and every few years somebody new emerges. But right now, nobody has shown signs of being that future superstar who can carry the company.
The Sports Business Journal story said that the UFC has held meetings with CBS, NBC, ESPN, Turner Sports, Amazon, and Oath (the parent company of Yahoo). The key to this is that even if ratings and star power have declined, if the UFC gets multiple bidders, it can still drive the price up. It's also possible they can cut a deal like the NBA or NFL, where they are on multiple networks.
Sources have indicated the NBC pitch included having big fights on the network, regular shows on NBC Sports Network, as well as live shows to help build an NBC Sports digital streaming service.
Sports Business Journal claimed Turner Sports showed the most interest. An exclusive with Turner Sports would eliminate the UFC's most-watched shows, the major broadcast network Saturday night shows that CBS, NBC and FOX could offer.
On paper, NBC Sports Network vs. FS1, doesn't look like a major difference. As of August, FS1 was in 84,421,000 homes, while NBC Sports Network was in 84,439,000 homes. ESPN was in 87,217,000 homes, but it draws far higher base ratings and is considered the home for sports fans. Plus, ESPN would offer more coverage on SportsCenter, which would give the average sports fan the impression that the UFC was more important. Turner Broadcasting's key stations, TBS and TNT, are in 91,894,000 and 90,881,000 homes respectively.
Another key in the negotiations is the quality of shows. If the UFC cuts back to six pay-per-view shows per year, that would leave openings for a lot more high-profile fights and championship fights for television, which could turn the numbers around.
Most UFC shows these days, if we eliminate the big-attraction events that will almost surely remain on pay-per-view, are doing around 200,000 buys. If we estimate they generate about $30 per order in revenue, that's about $6 million per event. That means, to give up six shows on pay-per-view and provide stronger television matches, the UFC has to get a minimum of $36 million per year extra. And that also becomes an issue with certain main event and championship fighters, because those with pay-per-view points in their contract, now not on pay-per-view, would also have to find a way to recoup that lost income.
https://www.mmafighting.c(...)contract-negotiation
Zie liever dat ze hun kampioenen hypen niet deze amateurs.quote:
Wat vinden jullie trouwens van Sean O'Malley
Zit een hoop hype op die gast. Vecht wel lekker agressief... maar ik krijg een beetje het idee dat hij een beetje overhyped is. Net zoals Sage Northcut
de vechters krijgen 0 centquote:
UFC is facing its most important contract negotiation
With the UFC’s seven-year contract with FOX expiring at the end of next year, the company is in talks with a number of networks and hopes to wrap up a deal shortly.
The UFC is in the midst of negotiating a contract that will do more to determine its long-term economic success than any other for perhaps a half dozen or more years.
The seven-year television contract between the UFC and FOX expires on Dec. 31, 2018. According to sources close to the situation, the UFC is hoping to have a new deal at least verbally agreed to by the end of this month, or at worst, in early 2018.
Unlike most major sports, where television revenue is far and away the leading source of income, the UFC has had two major revenue streams: Its television deals, particularly in the U.S. and Brazil, and revenue from pay-per-view.
But long-term, since pay-per-view is so unpredictable — almost entirely predicated on a few major stars who themselves often seem bent on self-destruction — television looks to be the key as we go forward.
Sports Business Journal reported recently that the UFC's exclusive negotiation window with FOX expired in October and the company has opened talks with a number of potential suitors.
The story indicated that the UFC, which will receive $160 million from FOX in 2018, the final year of the current deal, could have gotten an increase to $200 million on a multi-year contract from FOX. The UFC had been seeking anywhere from $420 million to $450 million for U.S. television rights. It was a belief that they would get a sizeable increase that pushed the bidding for ownership last year to reach just under $4 billion last year.
But so much is about timing.
In 2016, the prevailing opinion in television was that people were scared of the future. Between more and more DVR usage — meaning people were less likely to be watching advertising — and more competition as people familiarize themselves with streaming content, there was great concern about the economic future of television as it had been for decades. And there still is.
Live sports were considered the saving grace. The idea is that live sports were DVR proof, and thus, rights fees for sports started skyrocketing as networks went to sign long-term deals with the NFL, NBA, MLB, NHL, NASCAR and major college football and basketball. The skyrocketing numbers came at a time when the UFC was locked up with its FOX deal, with numbers that looked great in 2011 when it was put together, but not nearly so great by 2016 standards.
The positive is with the other major sports all locked in for many years to come, the UFC would be the lone major sports franchise up for grabs at a time when interest from major television conglomerates looking to lock up long-term deals for live sports was peaking. Currently, the UFC runs anywhere from two to five-plus hours of live prime time programming most Saturday nights.
And, the company was loaded with stars. Conor McGregor was a phenomenon as a draw, and Ronda Rousey wasn't far behind. While not as big a draw, Jon Jones was just entering his prime, could draw big with the right opponent, and was viewed by many as the greatest fighter in history. Georges St-Pierre, one of the company's biggest drawing cards in history, was all over the news talking a comeback. Even more attractive to television is that women fighters like Miesha Tate, Holly Holm, and Paige VanZant had proven they could headline events and draw strong television numbers. And the UFC was still reaching a younger audience than most major sports, which theoretically looked good for the future.
The television industry itself, whether it was sports or entertainment programming, had become accustomed to numbers for most things eroding. Yet, the UFC was appearing to be on the ascent, and more importantly, its fan base showed no sign of burning out over the endless hours of content.
While FS1 main cards were almost unchanged from 2015 to 2016, increasing 0.6 percent, the prelims were up 9.7 percent, averaging 996,000 and 767,500 viewers respectively. Essentially that meant the UFC’s audience was more willing to watch more hours of Saturday night programming than ever before.
The FOX shows were up six percent, to a 3,005,000 average, and increased from four shows to six, including a taped replay of a pay-per-view event on Christmas Eve that did phenomenal numbers.
UFC president Dana White recently scoffed at talk of the company having a bad year in 2017 economically, saying it was the best financial year in company history. For straight profit and loss, when you consider a combination of all the cost-cutting, the annual escalators in the television contract and the company's cut of the McGregor vs. Floyd Mayweather windfall, this easily could be the most profitable year in company history. But the UFC is not as popular.
Timing is everything. Had the UFC's contract expired a year earlier, and potential suitors were looking at last year's numbers and the growth, the value of the new television contract would be sky high.
But FOX offering only a modest increase is because one year later, everything looks very different. While there are exceptions with some major events, televised sports aren't holding up as well as hoped for, and the UFC has hardly been an exception. At the same time, the number of people with access to the major cable channels is falling, most notably with ESPN, a company that has had two recent rounds of major layoffs, but also figured to have interest in the UFC for the next contract term.
ESPN is faced with substantial declines in accessible homes, which its main revenue stream is based upon. ESPN is also on the hook for gigantic long-term contracts, numbers that escalate for years to come, most notably its NFL and NBA deals. This may not be the time for ESPN to add another expensive money deal.
Thus far in 2017, with two FS1 shows and one FOX show left, the FS1 main cards are averaging 866,000 viewers, down 13.1 percent. The prelims of the FS1 shows are averaging 722,000 viewers, down 5.9 percent. FOX specials are down 30.9 percent to 2,077,000. Pay-per-view is down even more, but those numbers really aren't significant when it comes to a new television deal.
The only close to encouraging sign is those who are watching FS1 on Saturday this year are, on average, even more apt to watch the prelims than even last year.
Worse, the starpower going forward is a lot less secure. White openly said recently that he didn't know if McGregor would ever fight again, and hoped Rousey wouldn't. Jones is facing his second drug suspension and could be a nonentity for some time to come. St-Pierre eventually did come back, which was a positive. On the women's side, Tate retired, Holm kept losing and her drawing power on FOX declined greatly from the prior year, and the celebrity boost VanZant got off her strong showing on "Dancing With The Stars" has faded.
Still, as White has pointed out, the history is that new stars will emerge. The reality is that the shelf life on top of most stars is going to be only a few years, and every few years somebody new emerges. But right now, nobody has shown signs of being that future superstar who can carry the company.
The Sports Business Journal story said that the UFC has held meetings with CBS, NBC, ESPN, Turner Sports, Amazon, and Oath (the parent company of Yahoo). The key to this is that even if ratings and star power have declined, if the UFC gets multiple bidders, it can still drive the price up. It's also possible they can cut a deal like the NBA or NFL, where they are on multiple networks.
Sources have indicated the NBC pitch included having big fights on the network, regular shows on NBC Sports Network, as well as live shows to help build an NBC Sports digital streaming service.
Sports Business Journal claimed Turner Sports showed the most interest. An exclusive with Turner Sports would eliminate the UFC's most-watched shows, the major broadcast network Saturday night shows that CBS, NBC and FOX could offer.
On paper, NBC Sports Network vs. FS1, doesn't look like a major difference. As of August, FS1 was in 84,421,000 homes, while NBC Sports Network was in 84,439,000 homes. ESPN was in 87,217,000 homes, but it draws far higher base ratings and is considered the home for sports fans. Plus, ESPN would offer more coverage on SportsCenter, which would give the average sports fan the impression that the UFC was more important. Turner Broadcasting's key stations, TBS and TNT, are in 91,894,000 and 90,881,000 homes respectively.
Another key in the negotiations is the quality of shows. If the UFC cuts back to six pay-per-view shows per year, that would leave openings for a lot more high-profile fights and championship fights for television, which could turn the numbers around.
Most UFC shows these days, if we eliminate the big-attraction events that will almost surely remain on pay-per-view, are doing around 200,000 buys. If we estimate they generate about $30 per order in revenue, that's about $6 million per event. That means, to give up six shows on pay-per-view and provide stronger television matches, the UFC has to get a minimum of $36 million per year extra. And that also becomes an issue with certain main event and championship fighters, because those with pay-per-view points in their contract, now not on pay-per-view, would also have to find a way to recoup that lost income.
https://www.mmafighting.c(...)contract-negotiation
Dat is ook de reden dat ze Sage, Paige, O'Malley, Gall hypen lekker goedkoop.quote:
Onbekend of ze GSP strippen, hij wil zijn titel niet verdedigen.
GSP, mag best wel wat tijd gebruiken, dat ze eens beginnen met conor te strippen.quote:
Ze zijn bezig met UFC 221 Whittaker vs Rockhold nog niet officieel.
Onbekend of ze GSP strippen, hij wil zijn titel niet verdedigen.
https://www.bloodyelbow.c(...)heavyweight-mma-news
Bizar dat Conor zo’n voorkeursbehandeling krijgt. Vooral irritant ook.quote:
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GSP, mag best wel wat tijd gebruiken, dat ze eens beginnen met conor te strippen.
Ze zullen toch moeten beslissen of de interim of de echte titel op 't spel staat als Whittaker in actie komt.quote:
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GSP, mag best wel wat tijd gebruiken, dat ze eens beginnen met conor te strippen.
UFC 220quote:
Francis Ngannou opens as betting favorite over UFC heavyweight champion Stipe Miocic
https://www.bloodyelbow.c(...)heavyweight-mma-news
[ Bericht 33% gewijzigd door Nober op 07-12-2017 10:33:34 ]
idd, de champ maar 6 wk voorbereiding geven en niet promotenquote:
MONEYquote:
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Bizar dat Conor zo’n voorkeursbehandeling krijgt. Vooral irritant ook.
Max heeft bijna de divisie verslagen.
And then you got another couple million buys from North America at 89 or 99 bucks. That’s where the real money is but UK and Eire PPV is big component, too.
Hopelijk voor de echte belt, co main Woodley vs Covington?quote:
Robert Whittaker vs. Luke Rockhold slated for UFC 221
eckte belt, jaquote:
Here’s why Conor’s next fight will be in a boxing ring. If his next fight is in the UFC, you can’t do PPV in the UK and Eire as broadcast rights are already sold. Very low $. If it’s a boxing match, you can. That’s another 1-1.2 million PPV’s at $19 USD in UK & $29 USD in Eire.
And then you got another couple million buys from North America at 89 or 99 bucks. That’s where the real money is but UK and Eire PPV is big component, too.
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Hopelijk voor de echte belt, co main Woodley vs Covington?
En tegen wie moet Conor dan gaan boksen? Het was lachen tegen Mayweather maar het zal wel meevallen met de 'millions in the US' die nog zo'n boksmatch van Conor willen zien en er een PPV bedrag voor willen betalen.quote:
Here’s why Conor’s next fight will be in a boxing ring. If his next fight is in the UFC, you can’t do PPV in the UK and Eire as broadcast rights are already sold. Very low $. If it’s a boxing match, you can. That’s another 1-1.2 million PPV’s at $19 USD in UK & $29 USD in Eire.
And then you got another couple million buys from North America at 89 or 99 bucks. That’s where the real money is but UK and Eire PPV is big component, too.
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Hopelijk voor de echte belt, co main Woodley vs Covington?
De La Hoya...quote:
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En tegen wie moet Conor dan gaan boksen? Het was lachen tegen Mayweather maar het zal wel meevallen met de 'millions in the US' die nog zo'n boksmatch van Conor willen zien en er een PPV bedrag voor willen betalen.
Paquiao...
Alvarez...
Dan benne die fans wel betalen.
Tja, voor een keertje was 'best of boxing' vs 'best of mma' leuk zo, maar nu is het speciale er wel vanaf denk ik. Het blijven wel grote namen met hun schare (hardcore) fans natuurlijk. Of Conor moet echt veel beter worden in boksen.quote:
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De La Hoya...
Paquiao...
Alvarez...
Dan benne die fans wel betalen.
Grote namen zullen altijd money makers blijven.quote:
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Tja, voor een keertje was 'best of boxing' vs 'best of mma' leuk zo, maar nu is het speciale er wel vanaf denk ik. Het blijven wel grote namen met hun schare (hardcore) fans natuurlijk. Of Conor moet echt veel beter worden in boksen.
Ik geef Conor groot gelijk als ie zichzelf nogmaals op zo'n manier in de boksring kan verkopen.
Conor heeft zijn eigen promotie maatschappij, he. zou jij van 100 miljoen teruggaan naar UFC 15 miljoen?quote:
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Tja, voor een keertje was 'best of boxing' vs 'best of mma' leuk zo, maar nu is het speciale er wel vanaf denk ik. Het blijven wel grote namen met hun schare (hardcore) fans natuurlijk. Of Conor moet echt veel beter worden in boksen.
LIVE
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Dana wil wat met Zuffa Boxing en hij is ook in gesprek met promoters/managers zoals Lou DiBella (o.a. Deontay Wilder).quote:
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Conor heeft zijn eigen promotie maatschappij, he. zou jij van 100 miljoen teruggaan naar UFC 15 miljoen?
Dus de eerste Aussi-champ is een feit.quote:
Robert Whittaker vs. Luke Rockhold slated for UFC 221
Gaan we de OP maar weer veranderen.
In the boxing world, reports tonight Manny Pacquiao - 39 later this month - has confirmed he's opened talks to fight Conor McGregor in April next year.
Pfff snap McGregor wel. Maar als fan van hem in de octagon vind ik dit zooooooo jammer. Dat ie snel die belt opgeeft dan.quote:
Pacquiao dus.
In the boxing world, reports tonight Manny Pacquiao - 39 later this month - has confirmed he's opened talks to fight Conor McGregor in April next year.
Wie gaan er live kijken?
Nah, morgen rustig op mijn gemak. Sowieso ook niet de hele card. Lomachenko en Rico ook terugkijken namelijk.quote:
Card met minste gemiddelde totaalgewicht ooit?quote:
[ Bericht 99% gewijzigd door 3rr0r op 09-12-2017 18:52:48 ]
Montano vs Modafferiquote:
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Card met minste gemiddelde totaalgewicht ooit?
6x 125lb
2x 185lb
2x 135lb
1x 130lb
=1520lbs
Swanson vs Ortega
6x 135lb
2x 185lb
2x 155lb
2x 145lb
1x 125lb
=1905lb (1535lbs als je de twee middengewichtgevechten eraf haalt)
Esparza vs Namajunas
7x 115lb
2x 155lb
1x 118lb
1x 146.5
=1379.5
[ Bericht 5% gewijzigd door Nober op 09-12-2017 19:08:50 ]
Haha, je bent het echt gaan checken. Gemiddeld zei ik hè, maar dan is die andere card zo te zien alsnog lichterquote:
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Montano vs Modafferi
6x 125lb
2x 185lb
2x 135lb
1x 130lb
=1520lbs
Swanson vs Ortega
6x 135lb
2x 185lb
2x 155lb
2x 145lb
1x 125lb
=1905lb (1535lbs als je de twee middengewichtgevechten eraf haalt)
Voor wie 'm bestellen wil....
http://mmahistorytoday.co(...)volume-9-jaw-droppertwitter:MMAHistoryToday twitterde op zaterdag 09-12-2017 om 00:46:26It is with great pleasure we unveil The Art of Fight Volume 9: Jaw Dropper.This piece is only available until Dec… https://t.co/NdH7bHyHMd reageer retweet
Ik moest aan die twee TUF finales denken vanwege het aantal vrouwen op die cards.quote:
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Haha, je bent het echt gaan checken. Gemiddeld zei ik hè, maar dan is die andere card zo te zien alsnog lichter
ik ken er twee fighters vanquote:
[ Bericht 84% gewijzigd door THEFXR op 09-12-2017 19:29:10 (trolls) ]
nope bij deze gwn gifjes kijkenquote:
is wel een ufc virus jaquote:
Weer Rick Flair's in het publiek. Of is dat steeds de door de UFC ingehuurde dude?
Toen Trigg vocht keek ik nog geen MMA maar dat ex-vechters gaan reffen lijkt mij een goede zaak.quote:
Jup, die bedoelde ik inderdaad. Die was goed naar de klote.quote:
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Trustequote:
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Op 
Karyn Bryant ontslagen?
Frankie Edgar is eerst, Ortega gaat respectvol wachten. $100k wachtgeld.quote:
Ortega heeft niet echt takedowns, ben wel benieuwd of hij Max/Frankie kan laten tappen.
[ Bericht 5% gewijzigd door Nober op 10-12-2017 12:37:27 ]
twitter:arielhelwani twitterde op zondag 10-12-2017 om 06:01:46No update on Sterling. Never show him after the KO. They move on to a PPV promo. Hate that. Audience deserves some… https://t.co/fe44CyzqCs reageer retweet
Cormier werd geinterviewd en al maar als er een KO gaat en niet opstaat houden ze hem buiten beeld.quote:No update on Sterling. Never show him after the KO. They move on to a PPV promo. Hate that. Audience deserves some kinda update, especially after Moraes wishes him a speedy recovery. Can’t just pretend like that didn’t happen.
Vreemd.
Knight met z'n Suarezje... 'He bit my hand'
Sterling werd op een oranje stretcher afgevoerd.quote:[..]twitter:arielhelwani twitterde op zondag 10-12-2017 om 06:01:46
Cormier werd geinterviewd en al maar als er een KO gaat en niet opstaat houden ze hem buiten beeld.
Vreemd.
Alistair Overeem: $810,000 ($800,000 to show, $10,000 Reebok sponsorship)
Max Holloway: $440,000 ($400,000 to show, $40,000 Reebok sponsorship)
Jose Aldo: $230,000 ($200,000 to show, $30,000 Reebok sponsorship)
Eddie Alvarez: $155,000 ($100,000 to show, $50,000 Fight of the Night bonus, $5,000 Reebok sponsorship)
Justin Gaethje: $155,000 ($100,000 to show, $50,000 Fight of the Night bonus, $5,000 Reebok sponsorship)
Yancy Medeiros: $120,000 ($30,000 to show, $30,000 win bonus, $50,000 Fight of the Night bonus, $10,000 Reebok sponsorship)
Henry Cejudo: $95,000 ($55,000 to show, $35,000 win bonus, $5,000 Reebok sponsorship)
Francis N'Gannou: $90,000 ($40,000 to show, $40,000 win bonus, $10,000 Reebok sponsorship)
Alex Oliveira: $87,000 ($32,000 to show, $50,000 Fight of the Night bonus, $5,000 Reebok sponsorship)
Tecia Torres: $85,000 ($40,000 to show, $40,000 win bonus, $5,000 Reebok sponsorship)
Paul Felder: $61,000 ($28,000 to show, $28,000 win bonus, $5,000 Reebok sponsorship)
Felice Herrig: $59,000 ($27,000 to show, $27,000 win bonus, $5,000 Reebok sponsorship)
Charles Oliveira: $59,000 ($44,000 to show, $15,000 Reebok sponsorship)
Sergio Pettis: $38,000 ($33,000 to show, $5,000 Reebok sponsorship)
Amanda Cooper: $36,500 ($17,000 to show, $17,000 win bonus, $2,500 Reebok sponsorship)
David Teymur: $34,500 ($16,000 to show, $16,000 win bonus, $2,500 Reebok sponsorship)
Dominick Reyes: $30,500 ($14,000 to show, $14,000 win bonus, $2,500 Reebok sponsorship)
Cortney Casey: $29,000 ($24,000 to show, $5,000 Reebok sponsorship)
Abdul Razak Alhassan: $26,500 ($12,000 to show, $12,000 win bonus, $2,500 Reebok sponsorship)
Justin Willis: $26,500 ($12,000 to show, $12,000 win bonus, $2,500 Reebok sponsorship)
Michelle Waterson: $17,500 ($15,000 to show, $2,500 Reebok sponsorship)
Drakkar Klose: $16,500 ($14,000 to show, $2,500 Reebok sponsorship)
Jeremy Kimball: $16,500 ($14,000 to show, $2,500 Reebok sponsorship)
Sabah Homasi: $14,500 ($12,000 to show, $2,500 Reebok sponsorship)
Angela Magana: $12,500 ($10,000 to show, $2,500 Reebok sponsorship)
Allen Crowder: $12,500 ($10,000 to show, $2,500 Reebok sponsorship)
TUF 26 Finale
Nicco Montano: $100,000 (no win bonus)
def. Roxanne Modafferi: $100,000
Sean O’Malley: $20,000 (includes $10,000 win bonus)
def. Terrion Ware: $10,000
Lauren Murphy: $20,000 (includes $10,000 win bonus)
def. Barb Honchak: $10,000
Gerald Meerschaert: $28,000 (includes $14,000 win bonus)
def. Eric Spicely: $14,000
DeAnna Bennett: $10,000*
vs. Melinda Fabian: $10,000*
Brett Johns: $28,000 (includes $14,000 win bonus)
def. Joe Soto: $31,000
Montana De La Rosa: $20,000 (includes $10,000 win bonus)
def. Christina Marks: $10,000
Ryan Janes: $24,000 (includes $12,000 win bonus)
def. Andrew Sanchez: $28,000
Rachael Ostovich: $20,000 (includes $10,000 win bonus)
def. Karine Gevorgyan: $10,000
Shana Dobson: $20,000 (includes $10,000 win bonus)
def. Ariel Beck: $10,000
Gillian Robertson: $20,000 (includes $ win bonus)
def. Emily Whitmire: $10,000
* – Fight ended in a draw; no win bonuses given
1 p.m. ET -- Marlon Moraes will look back on his thrilling win over Aljamain Sterling at UFC Fresno.
1:15 p.m. -- Frankie Edgar will discuss the injury that forced him out of UFC 218 and his future plans.
1:25 p.m. -- Nicco Montaño will talk about being the first-ever women's flyweight champion in UFC history.
1:45 p.m. -- Alexander Gustafsson will update us on his recent surgery and his timetable for a return.
2:05 p.m. -- Eddie Alvarez will talk about his win over Justin Gaethje at UFC 218 and what's next.
2:25 p.m. -- Daniel Cormier will preview his UFC 220 title defense against Volkan Oezdemir.
2:45 p.m. -- Diego Sanchez and Isaac Marquez will talk about last week's inspirational fight in New Mexico.
3:05 p.m. -- UFC lightweight prospect Chris Wade will join us in studio.
4:00 p.m. -- Brian Ortega will talk about his win over Cub Swanson in the main event of UFC Fresno.
4:20 p.m. -- Georges St-Pierre's BJJ coach, John Danaher, will discuss GSP's decision to vacate the middleweight title.
4:40 p.m. -- Frank Trigg will discuss his decision to become an MMA referre and working his first UFC event.
5:00 p.m. -- Ric's Picks.
5:20 p.m. -- The MMA (After) Hour will air exclusively on Twitter. We’ll answer your questions sent via the hashtag #themmahour. Watch the segment live https://mobile.twitter.com/i/events/925006455333203968
BRING IT BOII!!!
[ Bericht 51% gewijzigd door MisterJ.Lo op 12-12-2017 14:03:21 ]
Hij heeft dat toen zeker goed onderhandeld. Maar z'n CV is natuurlijk netjes.quote:
Die Cees verdient het meest en zo indrukwekkend is hij niet.
3 miljoen voor McGregor.quote:
Die Cees verdient het meest en zo indrukwekkend is hij niet.
2,5 miljoen voor Brock Lesnar die al werd gesloopt door Overeem.
2,5 miljoen voor GSP tegen Bisping.
2 miljoen voor Diaz.
1 miljoen voor Khabib tijdens UFC 209, ging niet door.
750k voor Mark Hunt.
Maar het meerendeel komt niet aan de $100k per gevecht. UFC betaald maar weinig aan hun vechters, dacht onder de 15% van wat ze aan geld binnenhalen.
Dat laatste klopt maar daarom is het zo raar dat ze zoveel aan Cees geven. Nooit indrukwekkend geweest in de UFC.quote:
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3 miljoen voor McGregor.
2,5 miljoen voor Brock Lesnar die al werd gesloopt door Overeem.
2,5 miljoen voor GSP tegen Bisping.
2 miljoen voor Diaz.
1 miljoen voor Khabib tijdens UFC 209, ging niet door.
750k voor Mark Hunt.
Maar het meerendeel komt niet aan de $100k per gevecht. UFC betaald maar weinig aan hun vechters, dacht onder de 15% van wat ze aan geld binnenhalen.
Zijn fight tegen hondenbrok sleepte hij 2,5 miljoen binnen. dus hij is er op achteruit gegaan.quote:
Die Cees verdient het meest en zo indrukwekkend is hij niet.
Hij zit nu op een flat fee contract, alles vast niks variabel, win or lose, maakt niet uit.
Ja heeft hij goed gedaan dat contractquote:
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Zijn fight tegen hondenbrok sleepte hij 2,5 miljoen binnen. dus hij is er op achteruit gegaan.
Hij zit nu op een flat fee contract, alles vast niks variabel, win or lose, maakt niet uit.
Die views zeggen veel, Perry is de man.
Wie is ze?quote:
Lekker boeiend of hij indrukwekkend is, mighty mouse verkoopt de PPVs niet..quote:
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Dat laatste klopt maar daarom is het zo raar dat ze zoveel aan Cees geven. Nooit indrukwekkend geweest in de UFC.
Bijna echt, maar ze is wel lang.quote:
[ Bericht 90% gewijzigd door W.H.I.S.T.L.E op 12-12-2017 23:39:47 ]
ja, maar dat is geen publiek contract.quote:
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sommige vechters,zoals Holloway en Cowboy hebben zo een Monster energie embleem, krijgen deze geen extra sponsorgeld naast Reebok?
The UFC’s Anti-Doping policy contains a loophole that could let athletes avoid testing by “retiring” and “un-retiring” in secret with the UFC’s permission. USADA refuses to disclose information about the registered testing pool that would prevent these exemptions from staying secret.
Dana White recently claimed that Ronda Rousey isn’t retired, and that “USADA is still popping up at her house testing her, but she refuses to retire.” USADA maintains a database of all tests conducted, but according to this database, Rousey hasn’t been tested at all in 2017.
Rousey was last tested in the fourth quarter of 2016 according to the list. Her last fight was a losing effort to Amanda Nunes at UFC 207 on December 30th, 2016.
Since it’s theoretically possible that Rousey has been in the registered testing pool (RTP) this entire time, but hasn’t been tested, I decided to try to find out exactly what was happening. During that process, I discovered something disconcerting:
There is a loophole in the UFC’s anti-doping policy that allows them to secretly exempt athletes from testing if they so choose.
Exemptions and secrecy
Under the WADA code, athletes returning from retirement have to undergo testing for six months. WADA may give a waiver after consulting the relevant national anti-doping organization and sport federation. Under the UFC’s anti-doping policy, the UFC gives the waiver. I wrote about that here.
That wouldn’t be a big deal if we knew which athletes had retired. If an athlete suspiciously retired and un-retired, skipping the testing pool whenever they didn’t have a fight, we would notice, right? Wrong.
It turns out the UFC and USADA can, and do, hide that information. There is no way for anyone to see who is and is not part of the registered testing pool at any time. USADA cannot or will not confirm which athletes are part of the pool, and the UFC, thus far, haven’t even responded to questions about it.
We have a situation where we can’t find out who is and isn’t in the testing pool, and the UFC president appears to be making incorrect statements about who is and isn’t being tested to the media.
This means, in theory, even if an athlete publicly says they are retired, they might not be. And even if Dana White says they aren’t retired, they might officially be retired as far as USADA is concerned. We would have no way of verifying that information, and Dana has a habit of being less than truthful when it comes to public statements.
Since the names of the athletes in the pool are a secret, and the UFC has the final decision on granting exemptions to retired athletes, there’s nothing stopping the UFC from letting a chosen athlete “retire” to avoid testing, lying to the press about them being retired, then allowing them to “un-retire” just before a fight to avoid months of testing. Their opponent, the media, and the public would have no way of knowing. That’s not to say this is happening, but the system, as it operates now, could allow it to happen.
Have athletes been exempted before?
Normally an athlete has to be in the testing pool for six months if they “un-retire.” In the past this clause was four months. It was part of this four-month testing period that Brock Lesnar skipped when he signed to fight at UFC 200. Instead of being tested for the 16 weeks retired athletes were supposed to under the anti-doping policy, he was tested for around five weeks.
It subsequently emerged that Brock Lesnar provided an out-of-competition sample prior to UFC 200 which was positive for the banned substance clomiphene. The result of the test wasn’t returned until after his UFC 200 bout.
The decision to exempt Lesnar was controversial at the time, even before he tested positive for a banned substance. It’s possible other athletes have had similar exemptions without the public ever becoming aware of it.
According to data provided by @dimspace, there are around 10 athletes (out of around 600), who haven’t been tested at all in 2017, but may have been under contract for at least the past year. USADA’s athlete test history page confirms these athletes haven’t been tested in 2017.
The athletes seem to still be under UFC contract—at least there have been no announcements that they have been released, and they are still on the UFC’s roster page—but they haven’t been tested in 2017.
It’s hard to be sure if they’re still in the registered testing pool, because USADA refuses to say who is actually in the pool. I sent a request to USADA asking which of these athletes are currently in the registered testing pool, but USADA is unable or unwilling to divulge that information.
Why is this an issue?
If you’re a fighter who accepts a bout against someone who hasn’t been tested in a year, it’s important to know if your opponent thought they could be tested at any time, or if they knew for a fact they wouldn’t be tested.
USADA CEO Travis Tygart said in a recent interview that even a short period in which a fighter knew they wouldn’t be tested would let athletes cheat. Here’s what Mr. Tygart said about having a two or three week period of no testing, “That’s not an effective program. Someone can go and cheat and we would never know about it.”
If knowing you wouldn’t be tested for three weeks makes the program ineffective, what would knowing you can’t be tested for three months accomplish? What about a year? This is why it’s important for athletes to know if their opponent just got a pass. Right now, they don’t. In fact, USADA actively refuses to disclose the information that would let them know.
The USADA site has this to say about transparency, “Instead of wondering if their competitors or role models are being tested, people can track testing data and see how USADA is working to uphold clean sport.”
There is an argument to be made that USADA shouldn’t be publishing information that could “out” a retired athlete, but the anti-doping organization’s site rightly notes that knowing when your opponent was tested is an important part of a transparent anti-doping program. That’s why the athlete test history exists. Does an athlete’s right to know their opponent had a time period when they were “retired” and could dope without being tested outweigh the right of an athlete to retire without telling anyone? That’s a judgement call.
The UFC doesn’t have a great history when it comes to properly handling fighter exemptions. Recall that ahead of UFC 152, Vitor Belfort was given a therapeutic use exemption for testosterone by the UFC. When tested, Belfort’s free testosterone came back high. Belfort’s opponent was never informed, and the information only came out thanks to an email being circulated to people it shouldn’t have been sent to. Belfort was allowed to compete.
The UFC around that time said they used the Nevada athletic commission’s standards for TUEs. Belfort’s total testosterone came back at over 1,000 ng/dL. NSAC executive director Keith Kizer stated that under Nevada rules, testosterone replacement therapy should be 600-700ng/dL at best.
By hiring USADA to implement their anti-doping policy, the UFC helped create a firewall between themselves and decisions around things like TUEs, which the UFC has been criticized over in the past. The truth is, there probably isn’t a better option than USADA out there to run an independent drug testing program, but that’s not to say it couldn’t be improved.
When the UFC has had the ability to secretly give fighters passes and cover up results in the past, the evidence suggests they have, though the UFC denies there was a “cover-up”. You can argue about whether or not that would happen today, but the optics of the situation means transparency should be favored over opacity to avoid even the impression of favoritism or malfeasance.
USADA could make this situation more transparent by listing which fighters are part of the registered testing pool and updating that list each week. They currently have a list of which fighters have been tested which they update each week, so this shouldn’t be a difficult task.
Instead, USADA refuses to confirm which fighters are part of the registered testing pool at any point. Whether deliberate or not, this opacity means fighters can never be sure if their opponent has actually been part of the registered testing pool prior to them actually being tested.
The UFC has been asked for comment on this story and we will update the post with their response.
https://www.bloodyelbow.c(...)esting-peds-steroids
Where you at Mark Hunt!?
En voor body armor?quote:
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ja, maar dat is geen publiek contract.
[ Bericht 2% gewijzigd door Nober op 13-12-2017 00:27:22 ]
tldrquote:
UFC-USADA loophole could be letting chosen athletes avoid testing in secret
The UFC’s Anti-Doping policy contains a loophole that could let athletes avoid testing by “retiring” and “un-retiring” in secret with the UFC’s permission. USADA refuses to disclose information about the registered testing pool that would prevent these exemptions from staying secret.
Dana White recently claimed that Ronda Rousey isn’t retired, and that “USADA is still popping up at her house testing her, but she refuses to retire.” USADA maintains a database of all tests conducted, but according to this database, Rousey hasn’t been tested at all in 2017.
Rousey was last tested in the fourth quarter of 2016 according to the list. Her last fight was a losing effort to Amanda Nunes at UFC 207 on December 30th, 2016.
Since it’s theoretically possible that Rousey has been in the registered testing pool (RTP) this entire time, but hasn’t been tested, I decided to try to find out exactly what was happening. During that process, I discovered something disconcerting:
There is a loophole in the UFC’s anti-doping policy that allows them to secretly exempt athletes from testing if they so choose.
Exemptions and secrecy
Under the WADA code, athletes returning from retirement have to undergo testing for six months. WADA may give a waiver after consulting the relevant national anti-doping organization and sport federation. Under the UFC’s anti-doping policy, the UFC gives the waiver. I wrote about that here.
That wouldn’t be a big deal if we knew which athletes had retired. If an athlete suspiciously retired and un-retired, skipping the testing pool whenever they didn’t have a fight, we would notice, right? Wrong.
It turns out the UFC and USADA can, and do, hide that information. There is no way for anyone to see who is and is not part of the registered testing pool at any time. USADA cannot or will not confirm which athletes are part of the pool, and the UFC, thus far, haven’t even responded to questions about it.
We have a situation where we can’t find out who is and isn’t in the testing pool, and the UFC president appears to be making incorrect statements about who is and isn’t being tested to the media.
This means, in theory, even if an athlete publicly says they are retired, they might not be. And even if Dana White says they aren’t retired, they might officially be retired as far as USADA is concerned. We would have no way of verifying that information, and Dana has a habit of being less than truthful when it comes to public statements.
Since the names of the athletes in the pool are a secret, and the UFC has the final decision on granting exemptions to retired athletes, there’s nothing stopping the UFC from letting a chosen athlete “retire” to avoid testing, lying to the press about them being retired, then allowing them to “un-retire” just before a fight to avoid months of testing. Their opponent, the media, and the public would have no way of knowing. That’s not to say this is happening, but the system, as it operates now, could allow it to happen.
Have athletes been exempted before?
Normally an athlete has to be in the testing pool for six months if they “un-retire.” In the past this clause was four months. It was part of this four-month testing period that Brock Lesnar skipped when he signed to fight at UFC 200. Instead of being tested for the 16 weeks retired athletes were supposed to under the anti-doping policy, he was tested for around five weeks.
It subsequently emerged that Brock Lesnar provided an out-of-competition sample prior to UFC 200 which was positive for the banned substance clomiphene. The result of the test wasn’t returned until after his UFC 200 bout.
The decision to exempt Lesnar was controversial at the time, even before he tested positive for a banned substance. It’s possible other athletes have had similar exemptions without the public ever becoming aware of it.
According to data provided by @dimspace, there are around 10 athletes (out of around 600), who haven’t been tested at all in 2017, but may have been under contract for at least the past year. USADA’s athlete test history page confirms these athletes haven’t been tested in 2017.
The athletes seem to still be under UFC contract—at least there have been no announcements that they have been released, and they are still on the UFC’s roster page—but they haven’t been tested in 2017.
It’s hard to be sure if they’re still in the registered testing pool, because USADA refuses to say who is actually in the pool. I sent a request to USADA asking which of these athletes are currently in the registered testing pool, but USADA is unable or unwilling to divulge that information.
Why is this an issue?
If you’re a fighter who accepts a bout against someone who hasn’t been tested in a year, it’s important to know if your opponent thought they could be tested at any time, or if they knew for a fact they wouldn’t be tested.
USADA CEO Travis Tygart said in a recent interview that even a short period in which a fighter knew they wouldn’t be tested would let athletes cheat. Here’s what Mr. Tygart said about having a two or three week period of no testing, “That’s not an effective program. Someone can go and cheat and we would never know about it.”
If knowing you wouldn’t be tested for three weeks makes the program ineffective, what would knowing you can’t be tested for three months accomplish? What about a year? This is why it’s important for athletes to know if their opponent just got a pass. Right now, they don’t. In fact, USADA actively refuses to disclose the information that would let them know.
The USADA site has this to say about transparency, “Instead of wondering if their competitors or role models are being tested, people can track testing data and see how USADA is working to uphold clean sport.”
There is an argument to be made that USADA shouldn’t be publishing information that could “out” a retired athlete, but the anti-doping organization’s site rightly notes that knowing when your opponent was tested is an important part of a transparent anti-doping program. That’s why the athlete test history exists. Does an athlete’s right to know their opponent had a time period when they were “retired” and could dope without being tested outweigh the right of an athlete to retire without telling anyone? That’s a judgement call.
The UFC doesn’t have a great history when it comes to properly handling fighter exemptions. Recall that ahead of UFC 152, Vitor Belfort was given a therapeutic use exemption for testosterone by the UFC. When tested, Belfort’s free testosterone came back high. Belfort’s opponent was never informed, and the information only came out thanks to an email being circulated to people it shouldn’t have been sent to. Belfort was allowed to compete.
The UFC around that time said they used the Nevada athletic commission’s standards for TUEs. Belfort’s total testosterone came back at over 1,000 ng/dL. NSAC executive director Keith Kizer stated that under Nevada rules, testosterone replacement therapy should be 600-700ng/dL at best.
By hiring USADA to implement their anti-doping policy, the UFC helped create a firewall between themselves and decisions around things like TUEs, which the UFC has been criticized over in the past. The truth is, there probably isn’t a better option than USADA out there to run an independent drug testing program, but that’s not to say it couldn’t be improved.
When the UFC has had the ability to secretly give fighters passes and cover up results in the past, the evidence suggests they have, though the UFC denies there was a “cover-up”. You can argue about whether or not that would happen today, but the optics of the situation means transparency should be favored over opacity to avoid even the impression of favoritism or malfeasance.
USADA could make this situation more transparent by listing which fighters are part of the registered testing pool and updating that list each week. They currently have a list of which fighters have been tested which they update each week, so this shouldn’t be a difficult task.
Instead, USADA refuses to confirm which fighters are part of the registered testing pool at any point. Whether deliberate or not, this opacity means fighters can never be sure if their opponent has actually been part of the registered testing pool prior to them actually being tested.
The UFC has been asked for comment on this story and we will update the post with their response.
https://www.bloodyelbow.c(...)esting-peds-steroids
Where you at Mark Hunt!?
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En voor body armor?
ook nietquote:
UFC-USADA loophole could be letting chosen athletes avoid testing in secret
The UFC’s Anti-Doping policy contains a loophole that could let athletes avoid testing by “retiring” and “un-retiring” in secret with the UFC’s permission. USADA refuses to disclose information about the registered testing pool that would prevent these exemptions from staying secret.
Dana White recently claimed that Ronda Rousey isn’t retired, and that “USADA is still popping up at her house testing her, but she refuses to retire.” USADA maintains a database of all tests conducted, but according to this database, Rousey hasn’t been tested at all in 2017.
Rousey was last tested in the fourth quarter of 2016 according to the list. Her last fight was a losing effort to Amanda Nunes at UFC 207 on December 30th, 2016.
Since it’s theoretically possible that Rousey has been in the registered testing pool (RTP) this entire time, but hasn’t been tested, I decided to try to find out exactly what was happening. During that process, I discovered something disconcerting:
There is a loophole in the UFC’s anti-doping policy that allows them to secretly exempt athletes from testing if they so choose.
Exemptions and secrecy
Under the WADA code, athletes returning from retirement have to undergo testing for six months. WADA may give a waiver after consulting the relevant national anti-doping organization and sport federation. Under the UFC’s anti-doping policy, the UFC gives the waiver. I wrote about that here.
That wouldn’t be a big deal if we knew which athletes had retired. If an athlete suspiciously retired and un-retired, skipping the testing pool whenever they didn’t have a fight, we would notice, right? Wrong.
It turns out the UFC and USADA can, and do, hide that information. There is no way for anyone to see who is and is not part of the registered testing pool at any time. USADA cannot or will not confirm which athletes are part of the pool, and the UFC, thus far, haven’t even responded to questions about it.
We have a situation where we can’t find out who is and isn’t in the testing pool, and the UFC president appears to be making incorrect statements about who is and isn’t being tested to the media.
This means, in theory, even if an athlete publicly says they are retired, they might not be. And even if Dana White says they aren’t retired, they might officially be retired as far as USADA is concerned. We would have no way of verifying that information, and Dana has a habit of being less than truthful when it comes to public statements.
Since the names of the athletes in the pool are a secret, and the UFC has the final decision on granting exemptions to retired athletes, there’s nothing stopping the UFC from letting a chosen athlete “retire” to avoid testing, lying to the press about them being retired, then allowing them to “un-retire” just before a fight to avoid months of testing. Their opponent, the media, and the public would have no way of knowing. That’s not to say this is happening, but the system, as it operates now, could allow it to happen.
Have athletes been exempted before?
Normally an athlete has to be in the testing pool for six months if they “un-retire.” In the past this clause was four months. It was part of this four-month testing period that Brock Lesnar skipped when he signed to fight at UFC 200. Instead of being tested for the 16 weeks retired athletes were supposed to under the anti-doping policy, he was tested for around five weeks.
It subsequently emerged that Brock Lesnar provided an out-of-competition sample prior to UFC 200 which was positive for the banned substance clomiphene. The result of the test wasn’t returned until after his UFC 200 bout.
The decision to exempt Lesnar was controversial at the time, even before he tested positive for a banned substance. It’s possible other athletes have had similar exemptions without the public ever becoming aware of it.
According to data provided by @dimspace, there are around 10 athletes (out of around 600), who haven’t been tested at all in 2017, but may have been under contract for at least the past year. USADA’s athlete test history page confirms these athletes haven’t been tested in 2017.
The athletes seem to still be under UFC contract—at least there have been no announcements that they have been released, and they are still on the UFC’s roster page—but they haven’t been tested in 2017.
It’s hard to be sure if they’re still in the registered testing pool, because USADA refuses to say who is actually in the pool. I sent a request to USADA asking which of these athletes are currently in the registered testing pool, but USADA is unable or unwilling to divulge that information.
Why is this an issue?
If you’re a fighter who accepts a bout against someone who hasn’t been tested in a year, it’s important to know if your opponent thought they could be tested at any time, or if they knew for a fact they wouldn’t be tested.
USADA CEO Travis Tygart said in a recent interview that even a short period in which a fighter knew they wouldn’t be tested would let athletes cheat. Here’s what Mr. Tygart said about having a two or three week period of no testing, “That’s not an effective program. Someone can go and cheat and we would never know about it.”
If knowing you wouldn’t be tested for three weeks makes the program ineffective, what would knowing you can’t be tested for three months accomplish? What about a year? This is why it’s important for athletes to know if their opponent just got a pass. Right now, they don’t. In fact, USADA actively refuses to disclose the information that would let them know.
The USADA site has this to say about transparency, “Instead of wondering if their competitors or role models are being tested, people can track testing data and see how USADA is working to uphold clean sport.”
There is an argument to be made that USADA shouldn’t be publishing information that could “out” a retired athlete, but the anti-doping organization’s site rightly notes that knowing when your opponent was tested is an important part of a transparent anti-doping program. That’s why the athlete test history exists. Does an athlete’s right to know their opponent had a time period when they were “retired” and could dope without being tested outweigh the right of an athlete to retire without telling anyone? That’s a judgement call.
The UFC doesn’t have a great history when it comes to properly handling fighter exemptions. Recall that ahead of UFC 152, Vitor Belfort was given a therapeutic use exemption for testosterone by the UFC. When tested, Belfort’s free testosterone came back high. Belfort’s opponent was never informed, and the information only came out thanks to an email being circulated to people it shouldn’t have been sent to. Belfort was allowed to compete.
The UFC around that time said they used the Nevada athletic commission’s standards for TUEs. Belfort’s total testosterone came back at over 1,000 ng/dL. NSAC executive director Keith Kizer stated that under Nevada rules, testosterone replacement therapy should be 600-700ng/dL at best.
By hiring USADA to implement their anti-doping policy, the UFC helped create a firewall between themselves and decisions around things like TUEs, which the UFC has been criticized over in the past. The truth is, there probably isn’t a better option than USADA out there to run an independent drug testing program, but that’s not to say it couldn’t be improved.
When the UFC has had the ability to secretly give fighters passes and cover up results in the past, the evidence suggests they have, though the UFC denies there was a “cover-up”. You can argue about whether or not that would happen today, but the optics of the situation means transparency should be favored over opacity to avoid even the impression of favoritism or malfeasance.
USADA could make this situation more transparent by listing which fighters are part of the registered testing pool and updating that list each week. They currently have a list of which fighters have been tested which they update each week, so this shouldn’t be a difficult task.
Instead, USADA refuses to confirm which fighters are part of the registered testing pool at any point. Whether deliberate or not, this opacity means fighters can never be sure if their opponent has actually been part of the registered testing pool prior to them actually being tested.
The UFC has been asked for comment on this story and we will update the post with their response.
https://www.bloodyelbow.c(...)esting-peds-steroids
Where you at Mark Hunt!?
[..]
En voor body armor?
Tuurlijk is dat boeiend. Vooral in de UFC wordt je betaalt aan de hand van je prestaties en aantrekkingskracht. Wat Cees geen van beide heeft.quote:
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Lekker boeiend of hij indrukwekkend is, mighty mouse verkoopt de PPVs niet..
twitter:MMAFighting twitterde op woensdag 13-12-2017 om 14:00:58Morning Report: Floyd Mayweather says he has multi-fight offer with UFC, can 'make a billion dollars'… https://t.co/IRf1ua7ScE reageer retweet
quote:twitter:MMAFighting twitterde op woensdag 13-12-2017 om 14:00:58
als je dat tegen hem zeg, dan mag je gratis mee als special guest met een van zijn seminars.quote:
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Tuurlijk is dat boeiend. Vooral in de UFC wordt je betaalt aan de hand van je prestaties en aantrekkingskracht. Wat Cees geen van beide heeft.
Nee ga jij maar gratis mee als special guest met een van zijn seminars.quote:
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als je dat tegen hem zeg, dan mag je gratis mee als special guest met een van zijn seminars.
die ervaring heb ik alquote:
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Nee ga jij maar gratis mee als special guest met een van zijn seminars.
@kennyflorian
Ah yes, Colby Covington who uses gay slurs, now trying his best to insult referencing people with disabilities. A true class act ladies and gentlemen. ? Maybe after your lawsuit with Werdum you can find the time for a title shot. Watch out for that boomerang effect.
@ColbyCovMMA
Oh hi Kenny! I thought you got fired by fox for plagiarizing? Mustve been #fakenews huh? Tell you what, after I beat Tyrone, I give you permission to come out of retirement and lose another title fight. You don't even have to beat Alex Karalexis, Kit Cope and Sam Stout this time.
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Hij is er niet echt van onder de indruk, Ngannou hehe. Maar goed, als je de champ bent, en eigenlijk sowieso als tegenstander zijnde laat je natuurlijk niet teveel ontzag merken voor je opponent.quote:
@arielhelwani
Getting lots of Q's re: Disney/21st Century Fox deal & how it may affect the UFC's TV negotiations. Truth is, not much. FS1/FS2 aren't part of the deal. The local RSNs are but that doesn't affect UFC. Fox News, Fox, Big 10 Net, FS 1/2, Fox Biz, local affiliates are staying put.
If anything, this *could strengthen Fox's pitch to re-up the deal. We'll see. But since Disney isn't a current player in the negotiations & FS1 is staying, no real story re: how it may affect the ongoing negotiations. Fascinating story, though. Great for general sports fans, IMO.
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Je ziet ook vaak dezelfde gasten terugkomen uit het comedy wereldje. Joe zal financieel toch wel onafhankelijk zijn?quote:
Rogan is een pure money hoer geworden hij schijt die podcasts elke dag uit om maar meer geld binnen te slepen. Er zijn gewoon geen interessante podcasts meer.
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Geen mispoes, hole in onequote:
Is toch meer een hobby van hem dat? Ik luister soms en het kan wel vermakelijk of interessant zijn. Gebruik het ook wel als ik niet in slaap kan vallen.quote:
Rogan is een pure money hoer geworden hij schijt die podcasts elke dag uit om maar meer geld binnen te slepen. Er zijn gewoon geen interessante podcasts meer.
1:00
22:00 Early Prelims
23:00 Prelims
2:00 Main Card
voor de ufc krijgt rogan 300k per ppv en zijn podcast leveren 80k per stuk op. hij is ook 20 miljoen net worth.quote:
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Is toch meer een hobby van hem dat? Ik luister soms en het kan wel vermakelijk of interessant zijn. Gebruik het ook wel als ik niet in slaap kan vallen.
day hij zegt comedian te zijn is gewoon liegen tegen zichzelf, want niemand kan daar van leven.
zo, lekker om 3.45 al klaarquote:
The UFC on FOX 26 official weigh-ins are at 16:00.
1:00
[ afbeelding ]
22:00 Early Prelims
23:00 Prelims
2:00 Main Card
En veel reclames, ze gaan drie uur doen over de prelims met 5 gevechten nu Elliott vs Menga niet doorgaat.quote:
lijkt me wel een fun kaartje met veel ko's
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fight night Canada, dus koud. weet je wat, laten we 5 ring girls overvliegen om het management warm te houdenquote:
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En veel reclames, ze gaan drie uur doen over de prelims met 5 gevechten nu Elliott vs Menga niet doorgaat.
ga je een andere ui nemen, als je ui k.o. gaat straks?quote:
Alsof Perry verliest van die argentijnse oogprikker.quote:
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ga je een andere ui nemen, als je ui k.o. gaat straks?
ik lees altijd dat Claudia op hem lijktquote:
Silva heeft ook 7 nederlagen in de UFC, maar daar zal je ze niet over horen. Next champion dus...
perry en zijn chick zijn sm-ers. die chick draaide zijn tepel er bijna afquote:
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Alsof Perry verliest van die argentijnse oogprikker.
Logisch, dat is p2p en geen directe flash streamquote:
ben jij dat?quote:
Bamgbose look-a-likequote:
Toen het leven nog mooi en ongecompliceerd wasquote:
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Het meest smerige... je kan nooit precies zien waar hij heen kijkt... #crosseyedquote:
wat een smeerlap die baardmans, echt allemaal smerige moves
gast moet stoppen er mee, heeft duidelijk hersen beschadigingquote:
Op Die Makdessi moet echt zijn muil houden.....!quote:
is gewoon geheugen verliesquote:
Lachen hoe ze dan uit hun plaat gaan alsof ze prima door konden gaan en er niks aan de hand was
Die follow-up elbow!quote:
En de pauze dankzij de ref die het stoptquote:
20 minquote:
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En de pauze dankzij de ref die het stopt
Ik haaaaat smurfen pauzes!quote:
Jammer dat ie al 35 is. Overeem denkt 44.
Cees is nooit dakloos geweest.quote:
Galore
Jammer dat ie al 35 is. Overeem denkt 44.
why?quote:
Op Om wie hij vraagt nextquote:
Main begint toch niet voor 2 uur, dus opschieten heeft geen zinquote:
nu 15 pauzequote:
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Main begint toch niet voor 2 uur, dus opschieten heeft geen zin
Na Perry ga ik pitten.quote:
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Main begint toch niet voor 2 uur, dus opschieten heeft geen zin
Manuwa wil nu tegen hem.quote:
Perry gaat KO by uppercutquote:
gek, perry is een punching bagquote:
whutquote:
Wmma wordt ge-force-feedquote:
Ik ga uit protest niet live kijken.quote:
Wel goede PPV met Khabib, Rivera, Condit.
Slechts tien gevechten en misschien vallen er nog een paar uit.
Covington was indrukwekkender tegen Maia.quote:
Als Dos Anjos de titel wint, weten we meteen wat McGregor zijn volgende gevecht wordt.
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Is Lamas al uit coma?quote:
Condit is klaar, die heeft in zijn retirement jaar naar andere banen gezocht en kon ze niet krijgen, dus name only.quote:
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Ik ga uit protest niet live kijken.
Wel goede PPV met Khabib, Rivera, Condit.
Rivera vind ik overrated.
Khabib gaat het gewicht niet halen zo vlak na de kerstdagen, misschien valt hij wel weer uit.
gewoon een kut PPV
Als Ngannou Cees zo had geraakt, met z'n lichaam er helemaal in, dan was dat gephotoshopte plaatje werkelijkheid geweestquote:
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Als dit waar is, klotezooi
quote:
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Als Ngannou Cees zo had geraakt, met z'n lichaam er helemaal in, dan was dat gephotoshopte plaatje werkelijkheid geweest
Maakt niet uit. McGregor levert meer geld op. En Dos Anjos-McGregor zou op 155 al moeten gebeuren.quote:
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Ik ga uit protest niet live kijken.
Wel goede PPV met Khabib, Rivera, Condit.
Slechts tien gevechten en misschien vallen er nog een paar uit.
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Covington was indrukwekkender tegen Maia.
Covington-Dos Anjos zou een leuke pot zijn, maar die maakt de UFC alleen als een van de twee kampioen is.
I woke up to the shocking news that @RdosAnjosMMA doesn’t want to fight me. I imagine it would be hard to have any pride in that dump of a country 🇧🇷 which is why u left it in the first place, but can’t u at least fake it and pretend u want to defend those #filthyanimals?
Hoi.quote:
Colby Covington & Tyrone Woodley Next TUF Coaches??????
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Als dit waar is, klotezooi
Colbygodquote:
TUF 27 mogelijk met Woodley & Covington
Brazilië
Werdum
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SPOILER
Haha, het hele land Brazilië is nu in de min bij hem.quote:
Colby
I woke up to the shocking news that @RdosAnjosMMA doesn’t want to fight me. I imagine it would be hard to have any pride in that dump of a country 🇧🇷 which is why u left it in the first place, but can’t u at least fake it and pretend u want to defend those #filthyanimals?
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Hoi.
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Colbygod
Brazilië
Werdum
Tooth fairy here I come!quote:
van wie is dit?quote:
werdum pist weer in zijn broek.quote:
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Haha, het hele land Brazilië is nu in de min bij hem.
Met after hour
https://twitter.com/i/events/925006455333203968
quote:
Khabib eet niet mee, verstandige jongen. Maar wat ga je als sporter bij de mac doen.
Unibrowquote:
Leuke video, die tussen neus en lippen door, laat zien dat Overeem lineaire UFC HW champ is geweest
Overeem is niet meer hetzelfde lvl als Ngannou.quote:
Overeem heeft tenminste 5 ex UFC heavyweight champs verslagen.
Ngannou gaat een lange periode als titleholder tegemoet.
Zelfs Jones zal zich bedenken om nu nog naar HW te gaan als die weer terug komt
Als dit gevecht doorgaat dan is dit voor mij gewoon een Main event om het jaar mee af te sluiten.
hij haalt de cage toch niet of het gewicht of andersss...quote:
gast heeft een lever ziekte
https://www.bloodyelbow.c(...)ood-to-his-liver-mma
quote:"Ischemic hepatitis. Ischemic hepatitis (also known as shock liver) is a condition defined as an acute liver injury caused by insufficient blood flow (and consequently insufficient oxygen delivery) to the liver. The decreased blood flow (perfusion) to the liver is usually due to shock or low blood pressure."
Grote kans dat Jones 4 jaar krijgt, dus daar hoef niemand meer aan te denken. die is dan wel klaar. Weet nog niet eens of de UFC dan nog bestaat, want het gaat slecht met hun.quote:
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Overeem is niet meer hetzelfde lvl als Ngannou.
Ngannou gaat een lange periode als titleholder tegemoet.
Zelfs Jones zal zich bedenken om nu nog naar HW te gaan als die weer terug komt
ze hebben nu een goed jaar omdat ze 300 miljoen hebben binnen gehaald met conor vs may