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lolquote:Op donderdag 6 juli 2017 17:33 schreef Faeroer het volgende:
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Omdat Gaddafi baas was en alles was gratis
Je moet wel heel dom zijn om dat soort dingen te geloven.
And if you listen very hard
The tune will come to you at last
When all are one and one is all
To be a rock and not to roll
The tune will come to you at last
When all are one and one is all
To be a rock and not to roll
Gratis gezondheidszorg, studeren, elektriciteit, dagverblijf, 55 jaar pensioen, rentevrije leningen, geld voor nieuwe gezinnen met kinderen, olie en brood voor kostprijs, etc.quote:Op donderdag 6 juli 2017 17:34 schreef Fir3fly het volgende:
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lol
Je moet wel heel dom zijn om dat soort dingen te geloven.
Baas.
Blijf jezelf vooral voor de gek houden zou ik zeggen.quote:
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Gratis gezondheidszorg, studeren, elektriciteit, dagverblijf, 55 jaar pensioen, rentevrije leningen, geld voor nieuwe gezinnen met kinderen, olie en brood voor kostprijs, etc.
Baas.
Maar het blijft af en toe beangstigend hoe mensen zo makkelijk vallen voor zulke propaganda.
And if you listen very hard
The tune will come to you at last
When all are one and one is all
To be a rock and not to roll
The tune will come to you at last
When all are one and one is all
To be a rock and not to roll
Zijn gewoon feiten... algemeen bekendquote:
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Blijf jezelf vooral voor de gek houden zou ik zeggen.
Ben je een troll ofzo?
Ik ben geen historicus maar dit lees ik op Wikipedia. Schijnt dat het best goed ging destijds in Libië.quote:
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Blijf jezelf vooral voor de gek houden zou ik zeggen.
Maar het blijft af en toe beangstigend hoe mensen zo makkelijk vallen voor zulke propaganda.
From 1977 onward, per capita income in the country rose to more than US $11,000, the fifth-highest in Africa,[60] while the Human Development Index became the highest in Africa and greater than that of Saudi Arabia.[61] This was achieved without borrowing any foreign loans, keeping Libya debt-free.[62] The Great Manmade River was also built to allow free access to fresh water across large parts of the country.[61] In addition, financial support was provided for university scholarships and employment programs.[63
Zoiets heet propaganda. Waar mensen intrappen die graag zouden willen dat die dingen waar zijn. Een goede reden waarom dit soort leugens verspreid konden worden is dit:quote:Op donderdag 6 juli 2017 17:45 schreef Faeroer het volgende:
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Zijn gewoon feiten... algemeen bekend
quote:According to the 2009 Freedom of the Press Index, Libya is the most censored country in the Middle East and North Africa.[100]
[ Bericht 21% gewijzigd door Fir3fly op 06-07-2017 18:10:17 ]
And if you listen very hard
The tune will come to you at last
When all are one and one is all
To be a rock and not to roll
The tune will come to you at last
When all are one and one is all
To be a rock and not to roll
Schijn bedriegt. Scorebordjournalistiek.quote:
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Ik ben geen historicus maar dit lees ik op Wikipedia. Schijnt dat het best goed ging destijds in Libië.
From 1977 onward, per capita income in the country rose to more than US $11,000, the fifth-highest in Africa,[60] while the Human Development Index became the highest in Africa and greater than that of Saudi Arabia.[61] This was achieved without borrowing any foreign loans, keeping Libya debt-free.[62] The Great Manmade River was also built to allow free access to fresh water across large parts of the country.[61] In addition, financial support was provided for university scholarships and employment programs.[63
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-12532929
Dit is wel een goed artikel daar over.
Oh en pssst: over die Human Development Index? Libië stond in 2010 maar een paar plekjes boven Saudie-Arabië...
[ Bericht 2% gewijzigd door Fir3fly op 06-07-2017 18:28:20 ]
And if you listen very hard
The tune will come to you at last
When all are one and one is all
To be a rock and not to roll
The tune will come to you at last
When all are one and one is all
To be a rock and not to roll
Oh, en gratis onderwijs klinkt leuk. Totdat je dit leest:
http://www.economist.com/node/14660446quote:The Swiss-based World Economic Forum ranks [...] Libya, despite an income of $16,000 a head, an even more dismal 128th in the quality of its higher education, lower than dirt-poor Burkina Faso, with an average income of $577.
And if you listen very hard
The tune will come to you at last
When all are one and one is all
To be a rock and not to roll
The tune will come to you at last
When all are one and one is all
To be a rock and not to roll
Gezellig.quote:Italian government officials have threatened to issue temporary EU visas to thousands of migrants in an effort to deal with Italy's escalating migrant and refugee crisis that would allow new arrivals to travel north.
In what has been described as a 'nuclear option,' Italian government officials have threatened to allow 200,000 migrants who enter the country to travel across Europe by using a Brussels directive, The Times reports.
Italy has previously called on its EU neighbours to help with the escalating humanitarian crisis but it has been disappointed by their lack of action.
Mario Giro, the deputy foreign minister, and Luigi Manconi, a senator with the ruling Democratic Party, told The Times that issuing migrants with temporary visas was under discussion.
Mr Giro believes that Italy can exploit European Council Directive 2001/55, developed after the Balkans conflict to give temporary European entry permits to a large number of displaced people.
Meer: http://www.dailymail.co.u(...)ants-send-north.html
En dat had allemaal voorkomen kunnen worden door mensen uit zinkende schepen gewoon netjes te brengen naar het dichtstbijzijnde stukje land om op die manier zo snel mogelijk weer levens op zee te kunnen redden.quote:Op zondag 16 juli 2017 15:46 schreef Twiitch het volgende:
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En dan boos reageren wanneer Oostenrijk militairen bij de grens zet
Hoe bevalt dat leven in lalala-land?quote:
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En dat had allemaal voorkomen kunnen worden door mensen uit zinkende schepen gewoon netjes te brengen naar het dichtstbijzijnde stukje land om op die manier zo snel mogelijk weer levens op zee te kunnen redden.
quote:Migrant rescue NGO says boat drifting after Italy and Malta refuse access
ROME (Reuters) - A Spanish aid group operating in the Mediterranean said on Tuesday one of its boats had been barred by Italy and Malta from disembarking migrants rescued two days ago.
Humanitarian groups have played a growing role in rescuing migrants who pay criminal gangs for passage from Libya, prompting accusations in Italy that they are facilitating people smuggling and encouraging migration. The groups deny this.
It was not clear why the Golfo Azzurro, run by Barcelona-based Proactiva Open Arms, was not allowed to dock in Lampedusa. It is now in international waters.
The Italian coastguard could not be reached for comment.
"Golfo Azzurro rescued three people 100 miles from the Libyan coast in an (Italian) coastguard operation 48 hours ago and we are still without authorization to disembark," Proactiva said on Twitter.
The Italian interior ministry has proposed a code of conduct which Proactiva signed in Rome on Tuesday, although some groups refused to endorse it.
European states have squabbled over how to deal with the flow of more than 600,000 migrants to Italy since 2014. Italy says the European Union has not given enough help and migration looks set to be an issue in national elections due next year.
Malta said it could not allow the migrants on board the Golfo Azzuro to disembark because they should be taken to Lampedusa, the nearest port to where the rescue took place.
"Malta's decision is in line with international law," Malta's Deputy Prime Minister Chris Fearne told reporters.
REPORTED THREAT
Most Mediterranean boat migrants are sub-Saharan Africans and Bangladeshis who are rescued from rubber dinghies 12 miles north of Libya, but Proactiva said the three rescued on Sunday were Libyan.
Golfo Azzurro mission chief Albert Mayordomo said in a video they were instructed by Italy's coastguard to look for the boat, which they found after 17 hours.
Proactiva said a second boat it operates received a threatening radio call from the Libyan coastguard on Monday morning while patrolling international waters some 13 miles from the Libyan coast between Tripoli and Zuwara.
In an audio recording sent to Reuters, a man's voice can be heard saying: "There is information that you are dealing with smugglers. Do not come back close to our waters. Next time you will be targeted."
The spokeswoman said the Libyan coastguard had fired shots into the air in the direction of the NGO boat.
A Libyan coastguard spokesman said one of its patrol vessels had fired two shots into the air after finding the Spanish boat exactly 12 miles from the Libyan coast, an area he said was for Libya to patrol.
"We demanded they leave immediately and head north but they did not obey the instructions," coastguard spokesman Ayoub Qassem said.
It seemed they were waiting for an illegal migrant boat, he said.
"Our patrol vessel had to warn them and we fired twice in the air ...(the NGO boat) vanished and left for the north with empty hands."
The European Union is providing training and funding for the coastguard in Libya, which became the most common departure point for people trying to reach Europe by sea in the turmoil following the 2011 overthrow of Muammar Gaddafi.
twitter:migration_med twitterde op dinsdag 08-08-2017 om 10:41:17 Video of Libyan CoastGuard firing shots in the air to warn Spanish #NGO #OpenArms to stay off their waters.(8AM,7A… https://t.co/9nVmZKX9pH reageer retweet
Video of Libyan CoastGuard firing shots in the air to warn Spanish
Dit. Zonder succesvolle illegale NGO veerdiensten zou het aantal illegale migranten al een heel stuk lager zijn. Niet nul, maar een al een heel stuk minder waarvan de verhouding echte vluchtelingen een stuk beter zou zijn.quote:
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En dat had allemaal voorkomen kunnen worden door mensen uit zinkende schepen gewoon netjes te brengen naar het dichtstbijzijnde stukje land om op die manier zo snel mogelijk weer levens op zee te kunnen redden.
Men is er al veel te laat mee.quote:
Er moet ook iets gebeuren, dit kan niet door blijven gaan zo.
Hier geldt het bekende spreekwoord, als het kalf verdronken is dempt men de put.
Kijk dit zijn de betere berichten.quote:
[..]twitter:migration_med twitterde op dinsdag 08-08-2017 om 10:41:17 Video of Libyan CoastGuard firing shots in the air to warn Spanish #NGO #OpenArms to stay off their waters.(8AM,7A… https://t.co/9nVmZKX9pH reageer retweet
quote:Artsen zonder Grenzen (AzG) stopt tijdelijk de hulpverlening met een eigen schip aan bootvluchtelingen op de Middellandse Zee. De hulporganisatie zegt vandaag in een verklaring 'niet langer veilig het werk te kunnen doen nu Libië met geweld dreigt tegen schepen van internationale hulpverleningsorganisaties'.
Meer: http://www.ad.nl/buitenla(...)chtelingen~aff3dc96/
Ze dreigen met geweld tegen schepen die zonder enig overleg nationale wateren binnenvaren neem ik aan?quote:
Correct.quote:
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Ze dreigen met geweld tegen schepen die zonder enig overleg nationale wateren binnenvaren neem ik aan?
Doen we al.quote:
Mooi man. Kunnen we de Libische kustwacht ergens sponsoren voor meer en beter materieel?
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