MK Ultra

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Op zondag 16 juli 2017 16:32 schreef De_cameraman_uit_Colombia het volgende:

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Mathis' stukken over Jim Morrison, Paul McCarthy, John Lennon (met name; geniale paper), Elvis, Jagger en vele anderen zijn ook aanraders.

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Op maandag 17 juli 2017 08:03 schreef De_cameraman_uit_Colombia het volgende:
Intelligence project Elvis (((Aaron))) Prestley

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Op maandag 17 juli 2017 12:46 schreef Lavenderr het volgende:

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Dit is dan ook wel leesvoer voor je: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Secret_Life_of_a_Satanist
Geschreven door zijn vrouw.

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Op maandag 17 juli 2017 14:42 schreef De_cameraman_uit_Colombia het volgende:

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Ja, en Mathis leest lekker weg. Prima researcher.

Zie zijn andere publicaties over de andere grote namen in het "artiesten"wereldje.

Vooral de paper over John Lennon is een prachtige.

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Op maandag 17 juli 2017 23:13 schreef Lavenderr het volgende:

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dat lange interview moet ik nog lezen doe ik morgen. Nu eerst slapen want moe.
Je hebt je er goed in verdiept

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Op donderdag 10 augustus 2017 19:00 schreef Lavenderr het volgende:

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Sorry, had even teveel dingen om er echt voor te gaan zitten, maar ga het echt doen binnenkort.
Ga eerst bovenstaande even kijken

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Op zondag 13 augustus 2017 17:05 schreef theguyver het volgende:

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Zo even in het juiste topic geknikkerd.

Zal even kort samen vatten, waarom ik niet 2 uur ga luisteren..
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Plus als het zoveel belangrijke info bevat kan je niet zomaar stukken gaan skippen!
Toch?

Nou nogmaals, mijn standpunt..
Tot uur, neem ik de moeite voor.
Langer dan een uur NIET!!

Laat ik het zo vragen, heeft deze man meegewerkt aan MK ultra heeft hij mensen geïnterviewd over MK ultra en heeft hij alle documentatie, wat er niet meer is voor handen gehad?

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Op zondag 13 augustus 2017 18:07 schreef theguyver het volgende:

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Totaal niet mijn vraag!

Nogmaals!
Heeft deze man meegewerkt aan MK ultra heeft hij mensen geïnterviewd over MK ultra en heeft hij alle documentatie, wat er niet meer is voor handen gehad?

Zo nee, berust het niet meer dan een mening over eigen onderzoek..

Mijn mening na mijn eigen onderzoek!
MK-ultra heeft geen hol opgeleverd, en spijtig genoeg zijn er een aantal slachtoffers bij gevallen!

1 regel, duurt geen 2 uur om te luisteren.
Als ik audio gebrabbel wil horen zet ik wel een luisterboek op!

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Op zondag 13 augustus 2017 18:40 schreef Drug het volgende:
Lsd was geen mk ultra uitvinding.

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LSD
Early CIA efforts focused on LSD9/589, which later came to dominate many of MKUltra's programs.[42] The CIA wanted to know if they could make Soviet spies defect against their will and whether the Soviets could do the same to the CIA's own operatives.[43]

Once Project MKUltra officially got underway in April 1953, experiments included administering LSD to mental patients, prisoners, drug addicts and prostitutes—"people who could not fight back," as one agency officer put it.[44] In one case LSD was administered to a mental patient in Kentucky for 174 days.[44] LSD was also administered to CIA employees, military personnel, doctors, other government agents, and members of the general public in order to study their reactions. LSD and other drugs were usually administered without the subject's knowledge or informed consent, a violation of the Nuremberg Code that the U.S. had agreed to follow after World War II. The aim of this was to find drugs which would irresistibly bring out deep confessions or wipe a subject's mind clean and program him or her as "a robot agent."[45]

In Operation Midnight Climax, the CIA set up several brothels in San Francisco, California to obtain a selection of men who would be too embarrassed to talk about the events. The men were dosed with LSD, the brothels were equipped with one-way mirrors, and the sessions were filmed for later viewing and study.[46] In other experiments where people were given LSD without their knowledge, they were interrogated under bright lights with doctors in the background taking notes. The subjects were told that their "trips" would be extended indefinitely if they refused to reveal their secrets. The people being interrogated this way were CIA employees, U.S. military personnel, and agents suspected of working for the other side in the Cold War. Long-term debilitation and several deaths reportedly resulted from this.[45] Heroin addicts were bribed into taking LSD with offers of more heroin.[13]

The Office of Security used LSD in interrogations but Dr. Sidney Gottlieb, the chemist who directed MKUltra, had other ideas; he thought it could be used in covert operations. Since its effects were temporary, he believed it could be given to high-ranking officials and in this way affect the course of important meetings, speeches etc. Since he realized there was a difference in testing the drug in a laboratory and using it in clandestine operations, he initiated a series of experiments where LSD was given to people in "normal" settings without warning. At first, everyone in Technical Services tried it; a typical experiment involved two people in a room where they observed each other for hours and took notes. As the experimentation progressed, a point was reached where outsiders were drugged with no explanation whatsoever and surprise acid trips became something of an occupational hazard among CIA operatives. Adverse reactions often occurred, for example an operative who had received the drug in his morning coffee became psychotic and ran across Washington, seeing a monster in every car that passed him. The experiments continued even after Dr. Frank Olson, an Army scientist who had not taken LSD before, went into deep depression after a surprise trip and later fell from a thirteenth story window.[47]

Some subjects' participation was consensual, and in these cases they appeared to be singled out for even more extreme experiments. In one case, seven volunteers in Kentucky were given LSD for 77 consecutive days.[48]

LSD was eventually dismissed by MKUltra's researchers as too unpredictable in its results.[49] They had given up on the notion that LSD was "the secret that was going to unlock the universe," but it still had a place in the cloak-and-dagger arsenal. However, by 1962 the CIA and the army had developed a series of superhallucinogens such as the highly touted BZ, which was thought to hold greater promise as a mind control weapon. This resulted in the withdrawal of support by many academics and private researchers, and LSD research became less of a priority altogether.[47]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKUltra

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Op zondag 13 augustus 2017 19:03 schreef Drug het volgende:
Uitvinding? Waar staat dat?

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MKULTRA was:

concerned with "the research and development of chemical, biological, and radiological materials capable of employment in clandestine operations to control human behavior." The program consisted of some 149 subprojects which the Agency contracted out to various universities, research foundations, and similar institutions. At least 80 institutions and 185 private researchers participated. Because the Agency funded MKUltra indirectly, many of the participating individuals were unaware that they were dealing with the Agency.[15]