Schutters openen vuur in nachtclub Istanbul #3

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Op dinsdag 3 januari 2017 00:55 schreef J0kkebr0k het volgende:

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Doe eens moeite.

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Op dinsdag 3 januari 2017 00:56 schreef J0kkebr0k het volgende:

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Waar is het bloed?

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Op dinsdag 3 januari 2017 00:55 schreef TeenWolf het volgende:

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Hij schoot gericht op de hoofden van de slachtoffers hoorde ik op het Turkse nieuws.

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Op dinsdag 3 januari 2017 01:01 schreef DrDentz het volgende:

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39 headshots? Damnn!

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Op maandag 2 januari 2017 20:25 schreef Triggershot het volgende:
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Sahih International: Divorced women remain in waiting for three periods, and it is not lawful for them to conceal what Allah has created in their wombs if they believe in Allah and the Last Day. And their husbands have more right to take them back in this [period] if they want reconciliation. And due to the wives is similar to what is expected of them, according to what is reasonable. But the men have a degree over them [in responsibility and authority]. And Allah is Exalted in Might and Wise.

Pickthall: Women who are divorced shall wait, keeping themselves apart, three (monthly) courses. And it is not lawful for them that they should conceal that which Allah hath created in their wombs if they are believers in Allah and the Last Day. And their husbands would do better to take them back in that case if they desire a reconciliation. And they (women) have rights similar to those (of men) over them in kindness, and men are a degree above them. Allah is Mighty, Wise.

Yusuf Ali: Divorced women shall wait concerning themselves for three monthly periods. Nor is it lawful for them to hide what Allah Hath created in their wombs, if they have faith in Allah and the Last Day. And their husbands have the better right to take them back in that period, if they wish for reconciliation. And women shall have rights similar to the rights against them, according to what is equitable; but men have a degree (of advantage) over them. And Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise.

Shakir: And the divorced women should keep themselves in waiting for three courses; and it is not lawful for them that they should conceal what Allah has created in their wombs, if they believe in Allah and the last day; and their husbands have a better right to take them back in the meanwhile if they wish for reconciliation; and they have rights similar to those against them in a just manner, and the men are a degree above them, and Allah is Mighty, Wise.

Muhammad Sarwar: The divorced women must wait up to three menstrual cycles before another marriage. If they believe in God and the Day of Judgment, it is not lawful for them to hide what God has created in their wombs. Within their waiting period their husbands have the right to resume marital relations, if they want reconciliation. Women have benefits as well as responsibilities. Men have a status above women. God is Majestic and Wise.

Mohsin Khan: And divorced women shall wait (as regards their marriage) for three menstrual periods, and it is not lawful for them to conceal what Allah has created in their wombs, if they believe in Allah and the Last Day. And their husbands have the better right to take them back in that period, if they wish for reconciliation. And they (women) have rights (over their husbands as regards living expenses, etc.) similar (to those of their husbands) over them (as regards obedience and respect, etc.) to what is reasonable, but men have a degree (of responsibility) over them. And Allah is All-Mighty, All-Wise.

Arberry: Divorced women shall wait by themselves for three periods; and it is not lawful for them to hide what God has created in their wombs; if they believe in God and the Last Day. In such time their mates have better right to restore them, if they desire to set things right. Women have such honourable rights as obligations, but their men have a degree above them; God is All-mighty, All-wise.

In de volgende verzen wordt overal verteld dat mannen "in charge" zijn. Omdat ze zogenaamd krachtiger zijn. Als het nodig is, mag je ze zelfs slaan. Ik hoop dat zo iemand Ronda Rousey een keer tegen het lijf loopt

Sahih International: Men are in charge of women by [right of] what Allah has given one over the other and what they spend [for maintenance] from their wealth. So righteous women are devoutly obedient, guarding in [the husband's] absence what Allah would have them guard. But those [wives] from whom you fear arrogance - [first] advise them; [then if they persist], forsake them in bed; and [finally], strike them. But if they obey you [once more], seek no means against them. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted and Grand.

Pickthall: Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath made the one of them to excel the other, and because they spend of their property (for the support of women). So good women are the obedient, guarding in secret that which Allah hath guarded. As for those from whom ye fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them. Then if they obey you, seek not a way against them. Lo! Allah is ever High, Exalted, Great.

Yusuf Ali: Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has given the one more (strength) than the other, and because they support them from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient, and guard in (the husband's) absence what Allah would have them guard. As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (Next), refuse to share their beds, (And last) beat them (lightly); but if they return to obedience, seek not against them Means (of annoyance): For Allah is Most High, great (above you all).

Shakir: Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great.

Muhammad Sarwar: Men are the protectors of women because of the greater preference that God has given to some of them and because they financially support them. Among virtuous women are those who are steadfast in prayer and dependable in keeping the secrets that God has protected. Admonish women who disobey (God's laws), do not sleep with them and beat them. If they obey (the laws of God), do not try to find fault in them. God is High and Supreme.

Mohsin Khan: Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has made one of them to excel the other, and because they spend (to support them) from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient (to Allah and to their husbands), and guard in the husband's absence what Allah orders them to guard (e.g. their chastity, their husband's property, etc.). As to those women on whose part you see ill­conduct, admonish them (first), (next), refuse to share their beds, (and last) beat them (lightly, if it is useful), but if they return to obedience, seek not against them means (of annoyance). Surely, Allah is Ever Most High, Most Great.

Arberry: Men are the managers of the affairs of women for that God has preferred in bounty one of them over another, and for that they have expended of their property. Righteous women are therefore obedient, guarding the secret for God's guarding. And those you fear may be rebellious admonish; banish them to their couches, and beat them. If they then obey you, look not for any way against them; God is All-high, All-great.

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Op dinsdag 3 januari 2017 08:06 schreef Triggershot het volgende:

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That's it, verder dan delen dik te drukken van passages kom je niet als reactie?

Ook de vers over het slaan is op meerdere manieren te interpreteren, dat Mohammed het slaan als interpretatie niet ondersteunt is door 3 verschillende overleveringen bekrachtigt:

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Zo-doende zijn de interpretaties van 'confronteer' / 'reageer' op haar meer in lijn met de opvattingen van Mohammed, maar goed.

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Op maandag 2 januari 2017 23:49 schreef Stimorol- het volgende:

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Is dit na de aanslag?

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Op maandag 2 januari 2017 21:19 schreef Triggershot het volgende:

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Kom op zeg, als de PKK aanslagen uitvoert op je veiligheidsdiensten, een factie van het leger een staatsgreep uitvoert, twee buurlanden in een burgeroorlog verwikkeld zijn waarbij de ene na de andere aanslag je burgers een bloederige en letterlijk spetterende dood in jaagt, wil je echt geen Merkel hebben die maar haar schouders ophaalt en het in een doofpotje stopt, echt niet. Maakt dat Erdogan met alles goed en wijs, misschien niet, maar Erdogan was een andere man in andere tijden.

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Op maandag 2 januari 2017 21:17 schreef SecretPret het volgende:

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Wij weten defacto meer over Turkije dan jij. Ik ken 3 talen en kan van alle kanten onderzoek doen. Ik ben 10 keer in Turkije geweest en weet ook hoe de toestand daar is met de koerden. Jij hebt gewoon niet veel gezien.

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Op maandag 2 januari 2017 21:19 schreef Triggershot het volgende:
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Kom op zeg, als de PKK aanslagen uitvoert op je veiligheidsdiensten, een factie van het leger een staatsgreep uitvoert, twee buurlanden in een burgeroorlog verwikkeld zijn waarbij de ene na de andere aanslag je burgers een bloederige en letterlijk spetterende dood in jaagt, wil je echt geen Merkel hebben die maar haar schouders ophaalt en het in een doofpotje stopt, echt niet. Maakt dat Erdogan met alles goed en wijs, misschien niet, maar Erdogan was een andere man in andere tijden.

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Op zondag 1 januari 2017 13:05 schreef Zalmplaat010 het volgende:

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Hee HiZ

Ik las dat je in Istanbul woonde.
Vind je dat er genoeg word gedaan aan veiligheidsmaatregelen door de autoriteiten, genoeg zwaarbewapende politie eenheden e.d in het straatbeeld?

Toen ik in Turkije was, zag ik haast nergens veiligheidsmaatregelen.. Heel anders dan in Brussel waar overal het leger in de straten aanwezig was.. En dat terwijl er in Turkije meer aanslagen plaatsvinden dan in België.

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Op dinsdag 3 januari 2017 12:08 schreef SecretPret het volgende:

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Alles wat daar staat klopt gewoon hoor

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Op dinsdag 3 januari 2017 12:07 schreef HiZ het volgende:

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Er hangen wel overal camera's en er is ook best veel politie, ook zwaarbewapend, op straat. Of het allemaal erg effectief is betwijfel ik, maar dat heeft meer te maken met het feit dat er helaas veel mensen zijn die terroristen als helden zien.

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Op dinsdag 3 januari 2017 12:42 schreef SecretPret het volgende:

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