Wikileaks is al geruime tijd extreem onbetrouwbaar gebleken, met als laatste voorbeeld dit, maar hiervoor waarbij ze wilden doen voorkomen dat Mueller uranium gesmokkeld zou hebben naar Rusland, wat echter voor een volstrekt legitiem doel werd getransporteerd. Dus, op voorhand zou ik echt alles met een enorme korrel zou nemen wat ze zeggen.quote:Op woensdag 2 augustus 2017 05:56 schreef LelijKnap het volgende:
https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/892510925244203008
Kortom, wikileaks blijkt eens te meer een propaganda-machine te zijn geworden; het is alleen niet helemaal duidelijk van wie precies. Het kan natuurlijk ook heel simpel opgelost worden; wikileaks weet wie de boel geleverd heeft (althans, dat is de veronderstelling) en Assange kan daarover getuigen.quote:Butowsky says he became convinced that the FBI had a report concluding that Seth Rich's laptop showed he had had contacts with WikiLeaks after speaking to the legendary reporter Seymour Hersh, who was also investigating Rich's death. According to the transcripts in the lawsuit, Butowsky says Hersh had an FBI source who confirmed the report.
In an interview this week, Hersh sounds unconvinced.
"I hear gossip," Hersh tells NPR on Monday. "[Butowsky] took two and two and made 45 out of it."
--Seymour Hershquote:“All I know is that he offered a sample, an extensive sample, I’m sure dozens of emails, and said ‘I want money.’ Later, WikiLeaks did get the password, he had a DropBox, a protected DropBox,” he said. They got access to the DropBox.”
In de audio legt Rod Wheeler echter uit dat hij Fox News alleen benaderde.quote:Wheeler alleges in the lawsuit that the reporter, Zimmerman “fabricated two quotations and attributed them to Mr. Wheeler.”
Those quotations were:
“My investigation up to this point shows there was some degree of email exchange between Seth Rich and WikiLeaks.”
And: “My investigation shows someone within the DC government, Democratic National Committee or Clinton team is blocking the murder investigation from going forward. That is unfortunate, Seth Rich’s murder is unsolved as a result of that.”
Alleges the lawsuit, “According to Butowsky, the statements were falsely attributed to Mr. Wheeler because that is the way the President wanted the article. Zimmerman, Butowsky and Fox had created fake news to advance President Trump’s agenda.”
Heel apart dit verhaal. Misschien een vervolg.twitter:CassandraRules twitterde op woensdag 02-08-2017 om 06:08:09Seth Rich Police Detective: PD Gave 'Strict, Strict Rules,' If I Talk I'll Get 'Re-Assigned' - cc @wikileaks https://t.co/3qktWHsnRn reageer retweet
quote:About the kid, I’ll tell you what I know. What I know comes off an FBI report. Don’t ask me how. You can figure it out, I’ve been around a long time. The kid, just, I don’t think he was murdered, I, I don’t think he was murdered because of what he knew. The kids a nice boy, 27, he was not IT expert, but he learned stuff. He was a data programmer, but he learned stuff. And so he’s living on one street, someone, in my eyes,- he’s living in a ruff neighborhood and in the exact where he’d been living, as I’m sure you know, there have been about 8 or 9 or 10 violent, uh not robberies, most of them with somebody brandishing a gun and it’s the kids hands, I’m telling you look, I’m sure you know what, his hands are marked up, the cops concluded he fought off the people, tried to run they shot him twice in the back with a 22 small caliper. And then, they, the kids that did it ran, they got scared, they didn’t take his wallet.
Ok. So what the cops do is this: And this is where nobody knows, what I’m telling you, and maybe you know something about it. When you have a death like that DC cops, if you’re dead, you don’t just generally go yep I know (unintelligible) you have to get in to the kids apartment and see what you can find. If he’s dead you don’t need a warrant but most cops get a warrant because they don’t know if they’ve guys has, has a, a roommate. You need a warrant. So they get a warrant. I’m just telling you, there is such a thing. They go in the house and they can’t do much with this computer. It’s (unintelligible) the cops don’t know much about it. So the DC cops they have a cyber unit in DC and they’re more sophisticated. They come and look at it. The idea is maybe he’s a series of exchanges with somebody who says I’m going to kill you motherfucker over a girl or… and they can’t get in. The cyber guys do a little better but they can’t make sense of it so they call the, they call the FBI cyber unit, the DC unit.
The Washington field office is a hot shit unit. The guy running the Washington field office he’s like, he’s like, you know, he’s like a three star at an army base he’s already looking for four, you know what I mean? He’s gonna go in a top job. There’s a cyber unit there that’s excellent, given. What you get in a warrant is, the public information you get in a warrant doesn’t include, uh, it does not include the affidavit underlying what, why you are you going in, what the reasons are that.. That’s almost never available, um, I, I can tell you that the existence of a warrant is a public document 99% of the time. So, um, on the same warrant, they call in the feds. The feds get through, and this is what they find. This is according to the FBI report. What they find is he makes cont- first of all this is what you have to know, you have to know some basic facts, one of the basic factors, in that there’s no DNC or Podesta emails that exist beyond May 22nd. May 21st, May 22nd is the last email from either one of those groups. And so what the reports says is that sometime in late spring, we’re talking June you know summers in June 21st, late spring would be after, I presume, I don’t know, I’d just say late spring, early summer and he makes contact with Wikileaks. That’s in his computer and he makes contact.
Now, I have to be careful because I, I’ve know, I, met Julian 10 or 12 years (ago?) I stay the fuck away from people like that, you know. He’s invited me, and when I’m in London I always get a message “Come see me at the Ecuadorian” but I say fuck no I’m not going there I’ve got enough trouble without getting photographed. And he’s under total surveillance by everybody but anyways. So, they found what he’d done. He had submitted a series of documents, of emails. Some juicy emails from the DNC, and you know, by the way all this shit about the DNC, um, you know, whether it was hacked or wasn’t hacked, whatever happened, the democrats themselves wrote this shit, you know what I mean? All I know is that he (Seth) offered a sample, an extensive sample, you know I’m sure dozens of email and said “I want money”. Then later Wikileaks did get the password, he had a Dropbox, a protected Dropbox, which isn’t hard to do, I mean you don’t have to be a wizard IT, you know, he was certainly not a dumb kid. They got access to the Dropbox. He also, and this is also in the FBI report, he also let people know, with whom he was dealing, and I don’t know how he dealt, I’ll tell you about Wikileaks in a second. I don’t know how he dealt with the Wikileaks and the mechanism but he also, the word was passed according to the NSA report, “I’ve also shared this box with a couple of friends so if anything happens to me it’s not going to solve your problem”. Ok. I don’t know what that means.
I don’t know whether you- Anyways, Wikileaks got access, and before he was killed- I can tell you right now Brennan is an asshole. Uh, I’ve known all these people for years. Clapper is sort of a better guy but not rocket scientist, the NSA guy’s a fucking moron, and they don’t- you know the trouble with all of those guys is that the only way they’re going to make it to a board or two and get hired by (?) and get some fat cat contracts is if Hillary stayed in. With Trump they’re gone, they’re done, they’re going to live on their pension, they’re not going to make it. And I gotta tell you guys, they don’t want to live on their pension, they want to be on boards (?).
I have somebody on the inside, you know I’ve been around a long time, and I write a lot of stuff. I have somebody on the inside who will go and read a file for me. This person is unbelievably accurate and careful, he’s a very high-level guy and he’ll do a favor. You’re just going to have to trust me. I have what they call in my business a long-form journalism, I have a narrative of how that whole fucking thing began, it’s a Brennan operation, it was an American disinformation and fucking the fucking President, at one point when they, they even started telling the press, they were back briefing the press, the head of the NSA was going and telling the press, fucking cock-sucker Rogers, was telling the press that we even know who in the GRU, the Russian Military Intelligence Service, who leaked it. I mean all bullshit. They were telling the studp- I worked at the New York Times for fucking years, and the trouble with the fucking New York Times is they have smart guys, but they’re totally beholden on sources. If the president or the head of the (???) to actually believe it. I was actually hired at the time to write, to go after the war in Vietnam War in 72 because they were just locked in. So that’s what the Times did. These guys run the fucking Times, and Trump’s not wrong. But I mean I wish he would calm down and had a better a better press secretary, I mean you don’t have to be so. Trump’s not wrong to think they all fucking lie about him. I can tell you right n….
Ik volg het allemaal niet zo, maar er is het reëel om dat van wikileaks te verlangen?quote:Op woensdag 2 augustus 2017 08:12 schreef ExtraWaskracht het volgende:
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Wikileaks is al geruime tijd extreem onbetrouwbaar gebleken, met als laatste voorbeeld dit, maar hiervoor waarbij ze wilden doen voorkomen dat Mueller uranium gesmokkeld zou hebben naar Rusland, wat echter voor een volstrekt legitiem doel werd getransporteerd. Dus, op voorhand zou ik echt alles met een enorme korrel zou nemen wat ze zeggen.
Nu tweeten ze dus wat audio van Hersh die als een verslaggever hiernaar gekeken heeft. Dus alles wat hij zegt is niet Wikileaks zelf als bron, maar Hersh. Klaarblijkelijk is het ook van enkele weken terug.
Dit is zijn standpunt op dit moment:
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Kortom, wikileaks blijkt eens te meer een propaganda-machine te zijn geworden; het is alleen niet helemaal duidelijk van wie precies. Het kan natuurlijk ook heel simpel opgelost worden; wikileaks weet wie de boel geleverd heeft (althans, dat is de veronderstelling) en Assange kan daarover getuigen.
In het statement dat jij aanhaalt staat omschreven 'geruime tijd extreem onbetrouwbaar' met daarbij twee voorbeelden. Ik vind dit een disbalans.quote:Op woensdag 2 augustus 2017 23:03 schreef LelijKnap het volgende:
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Ik volg het allemaal niet zo, maar er is het reëel om dat van wikileaks te verlangen?
Dit is simpelweg onwaar. Wikileaks heeft een extreem duidelijke bias.quote:Op donderdag 3 augustus 2017 00:57 schreef dellipder het volgende:
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Het is niet zo dat Wikileaks een opinie-outlet zijn
Wat is dat toch met het woord extreem?quote:Op donderdag 3 augustus 2017 01:02 schreef Fir3fly het volgende:
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Dit is simpelweg onwaar. Wikileaks heeft een extreem duidelijke bias.
Neuh, voor een BNW'er zal dat niet inderdaad.quote:Op donderdag 3 augustus 2017 01:53 schreef dellipder het volgende:
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Wat is dat toch met het woord extreem?
In elk geval knip je in mijn citaat (eigenlijk haal je alles weg, behalve een halve zin) en vervolgens zeg je niet waar. Dat is heel sjiek, maar voor mij niet bepaald overtuigend.
quote:The thrust of Wheeler’s lawsuit rests on the idea that Fox News falsely said that he believed there was a connection between murdered Democratic National Committee staffer Seth Rich and WikiLeaks. This alleged libel by Fox News, according to the lawsuit, was due to the joint efforts of Butowsky, who funded Wheeler’s investigation, and the White House, who allegedly wanted the story of Russian hacking to go away.
quote:The suit also alleges that Butowsky told Wheeler that the quotes are like that because that is how President Trump wanted the story to look. However, in a little-noticed statement on May 22 from Wheeler published on FetchYourNews, the former D.C. detective said, “I am of the personal opinion that the information/article reported by FoxNews Channel last Tuesday was essentially correct and worthy of further investigation. That is exactly why when I first learned of this new information developed by a FoxNews investigative journalist, I immediately called the DC Police to inform them.”
In een van mijn vorige berichten heb ik lten zien dat de rechtszaak van Rod Wheeler gaat over twee citaten van hem die door Zimmerman verkeerd geciteerd zouden zijn.quote:Wheeler’s lawsuit does say that Butowsky and Zimmerman “on behalf of Mr. Wheeler, drafted a response to the Rich family’s statements. Mr. Wheeler did not write or approve the response.”
But Wheeler went on FetchYourNews’s YouTube show, and said on May 23, “With respect to the statement I put out yesterday.” This is him showing ownership for a statement that says the Fox News report on May 16 was “essentially correct.”
quote:However, it should be noted that Wheeler’s public statements about the investigation roughly fall in line with these quotes.
Later kwam hij terug op zijn uitspraken vanwege de claim van miscommunicatie. In de aanklacht komt dit gesprek ook voor, dus dat zal een flinke spin worden om er toch iets van te maken.quote:Wheeler himself went on Fox 5 local news on May 15 and said that “absolutely” his “sources at the FBI” have “confirmed” that there is link between Rich and WikiLeaks.
Hier is echter een deel van het transcript van het interview van Fox News:quote:“In fact, when Mr. Wheeler was interviewed by a Fox affiliate on the evening of May 15, 2017, he made sure not to confirm as fact the proposition that Seth Rich sent emails to WikiLeaks, instead confirming only that a ‘source’ (i.e., [Fox News reporter Malia Zimmerman’s] and Butowsky’s alleged source) had information that could link Seth Rich to WikiLeaks,” the lawsuit states.
Nogmaals Rod Wheeler gaat het lastig krijgen zijn zaak te verdedigen.quote:FOX 5 DC: “You have sources at the FBI saying that there is information…” WHEELER: “For sure…” FOX 5 DC: “…that could link Seth Rich to WikiLeaks?” WHEELER: “Absolutely. Yeah. That’s confirmed.”
quote:"The FBI repeatedly stressed to DNC officials the necessity of obtaining direct access to servers and data, only to be rebuffed until well after the initial compromise had been mitigated," a senior law enforcement official told CNN. "This left the FBI no choice but to rely upon a third party for information. These actions caused significant delays and inhibited the FBI from addressing the intrusion earlier."
Ja, zo schiet het niet op.quote:"The DNC had several meetings with representatives of the FBI's Cyber Division and its Washington Field Office, the Department of Justice's National Security Division, and US Attorney's Offices, and it responded to a variety of requests for cooperation, but the FBI never requested access to the DNC's computer servers," Eric Walker, the DNC's deputy communications director, told BuzzFeed News.
Bron?quote:Op donderdag 3 augustus 2017 08:00 schreef dellipder het volgende:
Via AON sprak Ed Butowsky gisteren de beschuldigingen van Ed Wheeler tegen.
Bron?quote:Fox News nam in scherpe bewoordingen afstand van Wheeler's standpunt dat de motivatie afleiding van het Rusland schandaal zou zijn.
Alex Pfeiffer? Nadat de vorige dailycaller verslaggever hen verliet om te werken voor CNN zitten we nu met 20-jarige Pfeiffer. Niet per se onwaar, maar wel vreemd. (Bron)quote:Witte Huis correspondent Alex Pfeiffer zette de onregelmatigheden van Wheeler's verhaal in een artikel.
Dit is op zich leuk, maar stop svp met het verspreiden van nep nieuws.quote:The thrust of Wheeler’s lawsuit rests on the idea that Fox News falsely said that he believed there was a connection between murdered Democratic National Committee staffer Seth Rich and WikiLeaks. This alleged libel by Fox News, according to the lawsuit, was due to the joint efforts of Butowsky, who funded Wheeler’s investigation, and the White House, who allegedly wanted the story of Russian hacking to go away.
Er staat via AON? Heb ik in deze post gezet!!! https://forum.fok.nl/topic/2316944/5/25#p172859482quote:
LET OP!!! DIT IS DE BRON DAARVAN!!!quote:“Rod’s lies just continue to add up. And I know I’m on national television and I know what I’m saying and I know it’s the truth. Rod has a big, big problem with the truth.”
Heb ik eerder al gepost!!! DRIE DAGEN GELEDEN!!! Vraagje; lees jij überhaupt berichten in deze topic??quote:Bron?
Je suggereert dat zijn leeftijd hem geen autoriteit geeft. Bepaalt meneer Extrawaskracht dit?quote:Alex Pfeiffer? Nadat de vorige dailycaller verslaggever hen verliet om te werken voor CNN zitten we nu met 20-jarige Pfeiffer. Niet per se onwaar, maar wel vreemd. (Bron)
En dit is het argument tegen wat precies? Klinkt niet echt overtuigend.quote:Oh goh, wie hebben we hier weer: Alex Pfeiffer:
Doe gewoon normaal, aub!quote:Dit is op zich leuk, maar stop svp met het verspreiden van nep nieuws.
Heb je bericht wat ingekort was het was een aardige lap. Anyway, kunnen we elkaar normaal adresseren? "Meneer ExtraWaskracht" komt nogal vreemd op me over. We kunnen het denk ik oneens zijn op een forumpje zonder in de verdediging te schieten? Toegegeven, ik maakte me hier ook ietwat schuldig aan door "Oh goh" te typen. Voor wat het waard is denk ik dat het uit zal lopen op een settlement met geheimhoudingsclausule, omdat Fox News zich absoluut geen schuldigverklaring kan veroorloven. Ik vermoed dus dat we publiekelijk nooit tot de bodem zullen komen, helaas. Om in te gaan op je punten:quote:
Topquote:Op vrijdag 4 augustus 2017 08:14 schreef ExtraWaskracht het volgende:
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Heb je bericht wat ingekort was het was een aardige lap. Anyway, kunnen we elkaar normaal adresseren? "Meneer ExtraWaskracht" komt nogal vreemd op me over. We kunnen het denk ik oneens zijn op een forumpje zonder in de verdediging te schieten? Toegegeven, ik maakte me hier ook ietwat schuldig aan door "Oh goh" te typen. Voor wat het waard is denk ik dat het uit zal lopen op een settlement met geheimhoudingsclausule, omdat Fox News zich absoluut geen schuldigverklaring kan veroorloven. Ik vermoed dus dat we publiekelijk nooit tot de bodem zullen komen, helaas. Om in te gaan op je punten:
Als ik vraag om een bron waar je OAN schrijft, dan bedoel ik niet te zeggen dat je het uit je duim gezogen hebt oid, maar dat ik gewoon graag een concrete link zou willen. That's it, niks meer, niks minder. Evenzo voor de vraag bij wat je stelde over Fox News; niet omdat ik het per se betwijfel, maar omdat ik het graag even na wil kunnen lezen.
Het is denk ik btw wel goed om een kanttekening te maken mbt OAN. Die zijn mee gegaan in de hele Seth Rich conspiracy door nota bene tipgeld te beloven, wat me politiek gemotiveerd lijkt en hen in een wat lastige positie brengt... ik heb niet de indruk dat ze hier neutraal in staan.
De leeftijd van de verslaggever vind ik in dit geval wel een punt van aandacht. Iemand van 20 zal net van school af zijn gekomen. Ik vind het raar dat je zo iemand dan meteen op een dergelijk belangrijke positie zet, maar los van wat ik raar vind, is zo iemand denk ik sneller geneigd om zich te laten zeggen wat te rapporteren. Daarbij heeft hij geen historie. We weten niks over zijn betrouwbaarheid.
Neem bijvoorbeeld dit verhaal: Reporter says ‘Russian propaganda outlet’ pushed him to cover conspiracy theory at the center of a White House lawsuit. De kans dat iemand van 20 op gaat komen voor zijn integriteit in tegenstelling tot Feinberg naar eigen zeggen, acht ik een stuk kleiner dan wanneer een verslaggever al wat naam heeft kunnen maken.
Wat ik zei over nep nieuws neem ik terug. Mea culpa. Hoewel ik wel van mening ben dat het hele Seth Rich verhaal inderdaad nepnieuws is, is een dergelijke oproep hier niet op zijn plaats.
Ook topquote:Op vrijdag 4 augustus 2017 17:32 schreef LelijKnap het volgende:
Ik wil er even bedankje uitsturen voor de reacties op mijn vraag.
De insteek van dit bericht is een beetje verschillend met die van eerder. Ik heb veel tijd gestoken in het volgen van deze zaak. Niet dat ik daarvoor een schouderklopje hoef te krijgen, maar ik heb een heleboel informatie aangeleverd en naar eer en geweten zoveel als mogelijk voorzien van bronnen. En omdat de mainstream media deze zaak buiten haar berichtgeving laat en alternatieve media nogal vaak op zijn minst wordt aangeduid als controversieel heb ik dit proberen op te vangen met zoveel als mogelijk letterlijke citaten van personen, filmpjes van media-optreden en aanverwante statements.quote:Op vrijdag 4 augustus 2017 08:14 schreef ExtraWaskracht het volgende:
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Heb je bericht wat ingekort was het was een aardige lap. Anyway, kunnen we elkaar normaal adresseren? "Meneer ExtraWaskracht" komt nogal vreemd op me over. We kunnen het denk ik oneens zijn op een forumpje zonder in de verdediging te schieten? Toegegeven, ik maakte me hier ook ietwat schuldig aan door "Oh goh" te typen.
Voor wat het waard is heb ik in eerdere berichten uiteen gezet dat de zaak van Rod Wheeler juridisch weinig kans maakt.quote:Voor wat het waard is denk ik dat het uit zal lopen op een settlement met geheimhoudingsclausule, omdat Fox News zich absoluut geen schuldigverklaring kan veroorloven. Ik vermoed dus dat we publiekelijk nooit tot de bodem zullen komen, helaas. Om in te gaan op je punten:
Zo aardig als je het nu omschrijft kwam het niet over. Misschien kun je daar aan werken? Mijn bereidwilligheid zal dan ook wat toenemen.quote:Als ik vraag om een bron waar je OAN schrijft, dan bedoel ik niet te zeggen dat je het uit je duim gezogen hebt oid, maar dat ik gewoon graag een concrete link zou willen. That's it, niks meer, niks minder. Evenzo voor de vraag bij wat je stelde over Fox News; niet omdat ik het per se betwijfel, maar omdat ik het graag even na wil kunnen lezen.
Ik vind die kanttekening irrelevant, want ik postte dit filmpje omdat Ed Butowsky een statement maakte.quote:Het is denk ik btw wel goed om een kanttekening te maken mbt OAN. Die zijn mee gegaan in de hele Seth Rich conspiracy door nota bene tipgeld te beloven, wat me politiek gemotiveerd lijkt en hen in een wat lastige positie brengt... ik heb niet de indruk dat ze hier neutraal in staan.
Nogmaals irrelevant. Autoriteit van leeftijd is geen argument.quote:De leeftijd van de verslaggever vind ik in dit geval wel een punt van aandacht. Iemand van 20 zal net van school af zijn gekomen. Ik vind het raar dat je zo iemand dan meteen op een dergelijk belangrijke positie zet, maar los van wat ik raar vind, is zo iemand denk ik sneller geneigd om zich te laten zeggen wat te rapporteren. Daarbij heeft hij geen historie. We weten niks over zijn betrouwbaarheid.
Ik kan hier niks mee. Een argument is simpelweg goed of niet goed.quote:Neem bijvoorbeeld dit verhaal: Reporter says ‘Russian propaganda outlet’ pushed him to cover conspiracy theory at the center of a White House lawsuit. De kans dat iemand van 20 op gaat komen voor zijn integriteit in tegenstelling tot Feinberg naar eigen zeggen, acht ik een stuk kleiner dan wanneer een verslaggever al wat naam heeft kunnen maken.
Ook dit heb ik eerder in dit topic aangestipt. Het verhaal Seth Rich is in deze context belangrijk, maar mijn insteek was en is de Awan familie, de rol van de DNC en in het bijzonder Debbie Wasserman Schulz.quote:Wat ik zei over nep nieuws neem ik terug. Mea culpa. Hoewel ik wel van mening ben dat het hele Seth Rich verhaal inderdaad nepnieuws is, is een dergelijke oproep hier niet op zijn plaats.
quote:“I believe that I did the right thing, and I would do it again,” Wasserman Schultz said Thursday in an exclusive interview with the Sun Sentinel. “There are times when you can’t be afraid to stand alone, and you have to stand up for what’s right.
quote:“It would have been easier for me to just fire him,” she said
Op zich opmerkelijk dat alle Congresleden de banden verbrak toen de Awan familie onder andere beschuldigd werd van het verduisteren van computerapparatuur, slechte facturatie en chantage en Wasserman Schulz Imran Awan aanhield.quote:Instead of firing him, Wasserman Schultz said her office worked with the House chief administration officer to develop a job description that “would allow him to continue to do work … until such time as there were other charges brought or we had some evidence that there was something that was produced that warranted further action.”
Dit geeft geen verklaring over Awan's hoge salaris als part-timer.quote:Even without access to the IT network, Wasserman Schultz said, “there are plenty of technological issues that an IT person can assist with. He didn’t have access to the network, but he was able to give us guidance and advice and troubleshoot on a wide variety of other technological issues.”
Het is een misdaadonderzoek. De Capitol Police is ingeschakeld, omdat zij naar alle waarschijnlijkheid potentiële illegale activiteiten op het netwerk in relatie tot de nationale veiligheid van het Congres waarnam.quote:“I had grave concerns about his due process rights being violated,” she said. “When their investigation was reviewed with me, I was presented with no evidence of anything that they were being investigated for. And so that, in me, gave me great concern that his due process rights were being violated. That there were racial and ethnic profiling concerns that I had,” she said.
Dit gaat weer over de Dropbox.quote:.A law enforcement official familiar with the case said after Awan’s arrest there was no evidence of anything beyond the mortgage fraud for which he was charged and no indications of intelligence or national security implications. Because this is a pending case, the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Washington said it wouldn’t have any comment beyond the federal complaint.
Instead, Wasserman Schultz said, it involved “transferring data outside the secure network, which I think amounted to use of apps that the House didn’t find compliant with our security requirements.”
In het bewuste filmpje maakt Wasserman Schulz bij herhaling de hypothese dat als de eigenaar van de laptop geen onderdeel is van een misdaadonderzoek de politie de gevonden voorwerpen moet teruggeven.quote:She said the laptop in question was issued by her office to Awan. “He accidentally left it somewhere,” a loss Wasserman Schultz said was reported to the Capitol Police. When the Capitol Police recovered the laptop, the agency wanted to search its contents.
She said she has agreed to allow the police to examine the laptop and wasn’t attempting to hide anything. “This was not my laptop. I have never seen that laptop. I don’t know what’s on the laptop,” she said.
Deze opmerking hebben we onlangs nog gezien. Rod Wheeler wist ook al te vertellen wat de motivatie was van Fox News en Ed Butowsky om zijn statement te manipuleren.quote:Wasserman Schultz said the Awan case is getting so much attention from conservative media outlets because they’re attempting to distract people from the investigation into whether President Donald Trump’s campaign colluded with Russia to influence the 2016 election. “Any opportunity they can to pull people’s eyes and ears away from that they take.”
quote:Democratic Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz pressured officials at Congressional Federal Credit Union to write a loan to a husband and wife from Pakistan now charged and accused of bank fraud, according to federal law enforcement sources.
quote:According to FBI sources familiar with the criminal case, Congressional Federal Credit Union officials were hesitant to write the couple the loan because underwriters flagged portions of the Awan’s application as problematic and risk loaded. That was until Wasserman Schultz is believed to have made overtures to the federally-backed credit union to vouch for Awan and his spouse. FBI sources said the home equity credit line was approved despite the red flags, namely: The Awans rented the home linked to the loan application, but the FBI said the bank does not extend home equity lines to rental properties. The Awans never told the bank it was a rental property, the FBI said.
quote:Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley has requested copies of immigration files for the six Pakistani suspects in the House IT scandal, who allegedly stole equipment from Congress and accessed computers without permission.
quote:“In light of the alleged illegal activity, the committee seeks to better understand Awan and his associates’ immigration histories,” Grassley said in an August 4 letter to Acting Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security Elaine Duke. The letter was made public by the committee Monday.
quote:Imran Awan retained Chris Gowen as his defense attorney. Gowen is a long-time associate of former President Bill Clinton and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.
https://consortiumnews.co(...)ussia-hack-evidence/quote:There has been a long effort to counter the official narrative we now call “Russiagate.” This effort has so far focused on the key events noted above, leaving numerous others still to be addressed. Until recently, researchers undertaking this work faced critical shortcomings, and these are to be explained. But they have achieved significant new momentum in the past several weeks, and what they have done now yields very consequential fruit. Forensic investigators, intelligence analysts, system designers, program architects, and computer scientists of long experience and strongly credentialed are now producing evidence disproving the official version of key events last year. Their work is intricate and continues at a kinetic pace as we speak. But its certain results so far are two, simply stated, and freighted with implications:
There was no hack of the Democratic National Committee’s system on July 5 last year—not by the Russians, not by anyone else. Hard science now demonstrates it was a leak—a download executed locally with a memory key or a similarly portable data-storage device. In short, it was an inside job by someone with access to the DNC’s system. This casts serious doubt on the initial “hack,” as alleged, that led to the very consequential publication of a large store of documents on WikiLeaks last summer.
Forensic investigations of documents made public two weeks prior to the July 5 leak by the person or entity known as Guccifer 2.0 show that they were fraudulent: Before Guccifer posted them they were adulterated by cutting and pasting them into a blank template that had Russian as its default language. Guccifer took responsibility on June 15 for an intrusion the DNC reported on June 14 and professed to be a WikiLeaks source—claims essential to the official narrative implicating Russia in what was soon cast as an extensive hacking operation. To put the point simply, forensic science now devastates this narrative.
quote:On August 9, the Nation finally covered a report from the Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS) — a 30 member group made up of well respected former experts from the National Security Agency (NSA), tech companies, and other intelligence agencies.
The report from VIPS states that “forensic studies of ‘Russian hacking’ into Democratic National Committee computers last year reveal that on July 5, 2016, data was leaked (not hacked) by a person with physical access to a DNC computer. After examining metadata from the ‘Guccifer 2.0’ July 5, 2016 intrusion into the DNC server, independent cyber investigators have concluded that an insider copied DNC data onto an external storage device.”
quote:“With all the billions of dollars we spend on this collection access system that the NSA has, there’s no way that could have missed all the packets being transferred from those servers to the Russians,” Binney told Sputnik News for my report at the outlet in December. “I mean, they should know exactly how and when those packets left those servers and went to the Russians, and where specifically in Russia it went. There’s no excuse for not knowing that.”
Canova sues for access to ballots from 2016 primary loss to Wasserman Schultzquote:Some members of the Democratic National Committee have former DNC chair Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-Fla.) in their sights, and it all seems to be a result of her fired — and arrested — former IT aide, Imran Awan.
quote:The lawsuit doesn’t allege anything wrong with the Aug. 30 primary, which Canova lost to Wasserman Schultz 57 percent to 43 percent. In Broward, which makes up most of the 23rd Congressional District, Wasserman Schultz received 26,608 votes and Canova got 20,504. She won the Miami-Dade County part of the district, 2,201 to 1,403.
Canova couldn’t be reached by voicemail or text message on Thursday. But in the months after the 2016 primary, Canova suggested on Twitter, on Facebook and in person, that he might not really have lost.
On Twitter, he wrote: “Independent statistical analysis: results of my primary vs @DWStweets are ‘mathematically improbable.’ Manipulated?”
quote:Beranton J. Whisenant Jr.’s death was ruled a suicide Thursday, months after the federal prosecutor’s body was found washed up on a Hollywood beach shore in former DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz’s congressional district.
quote:Whisenant worked in the major crimes division for the US Attorney’s Office in Miami investigating visa and passport fraud, reports the Associated Press, and his death came as a shock to colleagues.
The federal prosecutor’s death occurred in Florida’s 23rd Congressional District, represented by former DNC Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz.
Wapen was vast van ijs gemaakt, daarom is het niet meer te vindenquote:Op vrijdag 11 augustus 2017 22:13 schreef dellipder het volgende:
Death of Prosecutor in Debbie Wasserman Schultz’s District Ruled Suicide, No Gun Found
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quote:Disobedient Media’s previous coverage of the suit discussed the case being relatively weak. If misquotation or false quotation were proven to have occurred, it would still be unlikely to legally prove that defamation had occurred.
quote:Many of the claims made in Wheeler’s suit have been brought into serious question. On the day the suit was filed, Big League Politics investigative journalist Cassandra Fairbanks released two audio tapes; one with legendary, pulitzer-prize winning journalist Seymour Hersh referencing Seth Rich as the source of Wikileaks’ DNC email publication. The other audio clip contained a recorded conversation where Wheeler appeared to support the information attributed to him in the initial Fox story.
Further questions regarding Wheeler’s suit were raised after his appearance on MSNBC where he contradicted significant elements of the defamation suit against Fox. During the interview, Wheeler stated that he did not know for a fact if President Trump knew about the Fox story, which fundamentally contradicts Wheeler’s previous allegations that the Trump administration had participated in orchestrating Fox’s story.
quote:Adding to controversy surrounding the case, Consortium News reported that pulitzer-prize winning journalist Seymour Hersh confirmed that audio files released by Cassandra Fairbanks were legitimate. Hersh told Consortium that the tape in question was “made without his permission” when he quoted an unnamed government source who stated Seth Rich had offered the DNC emails to WikiLeaks in exchange for money.
quote:Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, a California Republican who is friendly to Russia and chairs an important House subcommittee on Eurasia policy, became the first American congressman to meet with Assange during a three-hour private gathering at the Ecuadorian embassy in London, where the WikiLeaks founder has been holed up for years,
Rohrabacher recounted his conversation with Assange to The Hill.
quote:“Our three-hour meeting covered a wide array of issues, including the WikiLeaks exposure of the DNC emails during last year's presidential election,” Rohrabacher said, “Julian emphatically stated that the Russians were not involved in the hacking or disclosure of those emails.
quote:“Julian also indicated that he is open to further discussions regarding specific information about the DNC email incident that is currently unknown to the public,” he added.
quote:“Julian passionately argued the case that WikiLeaks was vital to informing the public about controversial though necessary issues. He hoped that Wikileaks — an award winning journalistic operation — might be granted a seat in the White House press corps. As a former newsman myself I can't see a reason why they shouldn't be granted news status for official press conferences,” he said.
As for other information to be given to the president, Rohrabacher said: “We left with the understanding that we would be going into further details in the near future. The rest of the message is for the president directly and I hope to convey it to him as more details come in.”
quote:The congressman told TheDC that “if [Assange] is going to give us a big favor, he would obviously have to be pardoned to leave the Ecuadorian embassy.”
quote:“He has information that will be of dramatic importance to the United States and the people of our country as well as to our government,” Rohrabacher said. “Thus if he comes up with that, you know he’s going to expect something in return. He can’t even leave the embassy to get out to Washington to talk to anybody if he doesn’t have a pardon. Obviously there is an issue there that needs to be dealt with, but we haven’t come to any conclusion yet.”
quote:Rohrabacher has been maligned by opponents for being too favorable to the Russian government, and was called “Putin’s favorite congressman” by Politico. He told TheDC that these attacks are due to people’s efforts to “obscure information that would be damaging to their political positions.”
“They can’t fool the American people all the time, especially if there’s some dramatic information that would expose this monstrous fraud that has been perpetrated on the American people and thus undermining an elected president and his ability to take the responsibility given to him by the voters,” Rohrabacher stated.
twitter:NatashaBertrand twitterde op donderdag 17-08-2017 om 16:06:22Rohrabacher's office on his meeting
@JulianAssange > "The congressman plans to divulge more of what he found dire... https://t.co/40Hey8RuIj reageer retweet
quote:Imran Awan, a former IT aide for Democratic Florida Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, was indicted Thursday on four counts including bank fraud and making false statements.
The indictment also includes his wife Hina Alvi.
The grand jury decision in U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia comes roughly a month after Awan was arrested at Dulles airport in Virginia trying to board a plane to Pakistan, where his family is from.
Awan and other IT aides for House Democrats have been on investigators’ radar for months over concerns of possible double-billing, alleged equipment theft, and access to sensitive computer systems. Most lawmakers fired Awan in February, but Schultz had kept him on until his arrest in July.
The indictment itself, which merely represents formal charges and is not a finding of guilt, addresses separate allegations that Awan and his wife engaged in a conspiracy to obtain home equity lines of credit from the Congressional Federal Credit Union by giving false information about two properties – and then sending the proceeds to individuals in Pakistan.
quote:Op woensdag 2 augustus 2017 19:00 schreef dellipder het volgende:
Dit in relatie tot Wikileaks die het password heeft van Seth Rich's Dropbox
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--Seymour Hersh
Over de rechtszaak tegen Zimmerman, Butowsky en Fox de kern van de zaak:
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In de audio legt Rod Wheeler echter uit dat hij Fox News alleen benaderde.
Hij benoemd op geen enkele manier dat het Witte Huis betrokken zou zijn geweest.
Tegenreactie van Ed Butowsky
Ziet er niet goed uit voor de rechtszaak van Wheeler, in mijn beleving.Heel apart dit verhaal. Misschien een vervolg.twitter:CassandraRules twitterde op woensdag 02-08-2017 om 06:08:09Seth Rich Police Detective: PD Gave 'Strict, Strict Rules,' If I Talk I'll Get 'Re-Assigned' - cc @wikileaks https://t.co/3qktWHsnRn reageer retweet
Ruwe transcript Seymour Hersh over Seth Rich aangeboden via CassandraRules:
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Dat deden ze niet zomaar.quote:Op dinsdag 9 augustus 2016 18:50 schreef bedachtzaam het volgende:
twitter:wikileaks twitterde op dinsdag 09-08-2016 om 17:58:37ANNOUNCE: WikiLeaks has decided to issue a US$20k reward for information leading to conviction for the murder of DNC staffer Seth Rich. reageer retweet
Over het laatste gaat het volgens mij om de aandacht afleiden. Officieus is het hacken door de Russen ontkracht. Ik heb hierover eerder al wat berichten gepost. Er zijn twee onderzoeken onafhankelijk van elkaar gedaan en die komen beiden tot de conclusie; geen hack..quote:Op vrijdag 18 augustus 2017 09:19 schreef bedachtzaam het volgende:
Dat deden ze niet zomaar.
http://www.nbcwashington.(...)st-DC-386316391.html
http://forward.com/news/n(...)-rich-10-days-later/
Waar rook is, is vuur.
Tijd voor nog een pakket sancties richting Rusland ook al is dat hele verhaal over Russische inmenging een 'nothingburger, but it attracts viewers'.
De VS is heilig
quote:A federal grand jury Thursday indicted two former information technology (IT) aides of Democratic Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz — Pakistani-born Imran Awan and his wife Hina Alvi — on four counts of conspiracy in the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia.
quote:“Defendants AWAN and ALVI did unlawfully, willfully, and knowingly conspire, combine, confederate, and agree with each other to commit offenses against the United States,” including bank fraud, false statements, and unlawful monetary transactions, the indictment said.
quote:An arraignment date has not yet been set, and a spokesman for the U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia did not immediately respond to The Daily Caller News Foundation Investigative Group’s question about when Hina Alvi would become a fugitive if she does not return to the U.S. voluntarily, or whether officials would seek to extradite her from Pakistan.
quote:Christopher Gowen, founding partner of Gowen Rhoades Winograd & Silva, who has represented Awan, said by email Thursday evening that “we are confused as to why the government elected to prosecute such a minor case when it declines to prosecute hundreds of cases a month far more serious than these charges.”
Bronquote:Gowen criticized conservative media outlets that have been fueling the story. “Today’s indictment shows the right-wing media’s severe lack of credibility. Throughout the past two weeks, right-wing media including Fox News reported illegal activity committed by my client in relation to his dedicated service to the United States House of Representatives. Today, it is quite clear that every last one of those reports were utterly false. We look forward to reading the right-wing media’s retractions,” Gowen said.
quote:Federal authorities are investigating whether sensitive data was stolen from congressional offices by several Pakistani-American tech staffers and sold to Pakistani or Russian intelligence, knowledgeable sources say
quote:Investigators now suspect that sensitive US government data — possibly including classified information — could have been compromised and may have been sold to hostile foreign governments that could use it to blackmail members of Congress or even put their lives at risk.
“This is a massive, massive scandal,” a senior US official familiar with the widening probe told The Post
quote:During the probe, investigators found valuable government data that is believed to have been taken from the network and placed on offsite servers, setting off more alarms. Some 80 offices were potentially compromised.
quote:“These lawmakers allowed an insider threat to come into the House,” the official charged. “Computer equipment was stolen, taxpayers were robbed of hundreds of thousands of dollars, and sensitive data was compromised and possibly sold overseas.”
quote:Now that prosecutors have Awan hung up on the fraud charges, they will try to squeeze him harder in the larger cyberespionage investigation, according to the US official, who expects additional charges and arrests in the case.
quote:Awan had access to Wasserman Schultz’s e-mails at both Congress and the DNC, where he had been given the password to her iPad. After DNC e-mails and research files were stolen during the presidential election, Wasserman Schultz reportedly refused to turn over the server to the FBI and instead called in a private firm to investigate and ID the hackers. The firm blamed the Russian government, while admitting, “We don’t have hard evidence.” The corrupted DNC server, held in storage, still has not been examined by the FBI.
Wasserman Schultz denies the DNC turned down the FBI’s assistance or that her congressional or DNC e-mails were compromised by Awan.
“This whole investigation pivots off Debbie Wasserman Schultz,” the official said.
“It’s clear that large bytes of data were moved off the secure network,” said another source close to the investigation, adding that Awan and the other four staffers under investigation had “full and complete access” to lawmakers’ e-mails, calendars, schedules, hearing notes, meeting notes and memos and other sensitive information.
Het probleem is dat de FBI altijd de uitkomsten en conclusies van Crowdstrike heeft onderschreven, maar de FBI heeft zelf nooit de servers zelf geanalyseerd omdat de DNC hen de toegang weigerde.quote:U.S. cybersecurity firm CrowdStrike has revised and retracted statements it used to buttress claims of Russian hacking during last year’s American presidential election campaign. The shift followed a VOA report that the company misrepresented data published by an influential British think tank.
In December, CrowdStrike said it found evidence that Russians hacked into a Ukrainian artillery app, contributing to heavy losses of howitzers in Ukraine’s war with pro-Russian separatists.
VOA reported Tuesday that the International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS), which publishes an annual reference estimating the strength of world armed forces, disavowed the CrowdStrike report and said it had never been contacted by the company.
CrowdStrike was first to link hacks of Democratic Party computers to Russian actors last year, but some cybersecurity experts have questioned its evidence. The company has come under fire from some Republicans who say charges of Kremlin meddling in the election are overblown.
After CrowdStrike released its Ukraine report, company co-founder Dmitri Alperovitch claimed it provided added evidence of Russian election interference. In both hacks, he said, the company found malware used by “Fancy Bear,” a group with ties to Russian intelligence agencies.
CrowdStrike’s claims of heavy Ukrainian artillery losses were widely circulated in U.S. media.
On Thursday, CrowdStrike walked back key parts of its Ukraine report.
The company removed language that said Ukraine’s artillery lost 80 percent of the Soviet-era D-30 howitzers, which used aiming software that purportedly was hacked. Instead, the revised report cites figures of 15 to 20 percent losses in combat operations, attributing the figures to IISS.
Finally, CrowdStrike deleted a statement saying “deployment of this malware-infected application may have contributed to the high-loss nature of this platform” — meaning the howitzers — and excised a link sourcing its IISS data to a blogger in Russia-occupied Crimea.
In an email, CrowdStrike spokeswoman Ilina Dmitrova said the new estimates of Ukrainian artillery losses resulted from conversations with Henry Boyd, an IISS research associate for defense and military analysis. She declined to say what prompted the contact.
Dmitrova noted that the FBI and the U.S. intelligence community have also concluded that Russia was behind the hacks of the Democratic National Committee, Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee and the email account of John Podesta, Hillary Clinton’s campaign manager.
quote:A chief of staff of Democratic Rep. Yvette Clarke quietly agreed in early 2016 to sign away a $120,000 missing electronics problem on behalf of two former IT aides now suspected of stealing equipment from Congress, The Daily Caller News Foundation has learned.
Clarke’s chief of staff at the time effectively dismissed the loss and prevented it from coming up in future audits by signing a form removing the missing equipment from a House-wide tracking system after one of the Awan brothers alerted the office the equipment was gone.
quote:The $120,000 figure amounts to about a tenth of the office’s annual budget, or enough to hire four legislative assistants to handle the concerns of constituents in her New York district. Yet when one of the brothers alerted the office to the massive loss, the chief of staff signed a form that quietly reconciled the missing equipment in the office budget, the official told TheDCNF. Abid Awan remained employed by the office for months after the loss of the equipment was flagged.
quote:Wasserman Schultz attempted to downplay his alleged conduct, saying he was “transferring data outside the secure network, which I think amounted to use of apps that the House didn’t find compliant with our security requirements.” Such transfers, though, could be a serious, potentially illegal violation.
quote:Feds Investigating Whether Debbie Wasserman Schultz Aide Imran Awan Sold Secrets to Russians.
Federal authorities are investigating whether sensitive data was stolen from congressional offices by several Pakistani-American tech staffers and sold to Pakistani or Russian intelligence, knowledgeable sources say. What started out 16 months ago as a scandal involving the alleged theft of computer equipment from Congress has turned into a national-security investigation involving FBI surveillance of the suspects.
Investigators now suspect that sensitive US government data possibly including classified information could have been compromised and may have been sold to hostile foreign governments that could use it to blackmail members of Congress or even put their lives at risk. “This is a massive, massive scandal,” a senior US official familiar with the widening probe.
Dat kan zeker wel een ongekend schandaal worden. Benieuwd hoe dit zich gaat ontwikkelen.quote:Op maandag 21 augustus 2017 19:38 schreef dellipder het volgende:
Dit is een ongekende schandaal. Mogelijk geheimen verkocht aan Pakistan of Rusland en chantagepraktijken.
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Is dat het niet al in jouw wereldje?quote:Op maandag 21 augustus 2017 20:02 schreef Lavenderr het volgende:
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Dat kan zeker wel een ongekend schandaal worden.
Mijn wereldje heeft hier weinig tot niets mee te makenquote:Op maandag 21 augustus 2017 20:17 schreef Fir3fly het volgende:
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Is dat het niet al in jouw wereldje?
Nou, jawel want in de echte wereld is dit geen schandaal.quote:Op maandag 21 augustus 2017 20:20 schreef Lavenderr het volgende:
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Mijn wereldje heeft hier weinig tot niets mee te maken
Nog niet, maar dat kan het wel worden.quote:Op maandag 21 augustus 2017 20:21 schreef Fir3fly het volgende:
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Nou, jawel want in de echte wereld is dit geen schandaal.
Neuh.quote:Op maandag 21 augustus 2017 20:22 schreef Lavenderr het volgende:
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Nog niet, maar dat kan het wel worden.
Tuurlijk. Dat wordt altijd gezegd hierquote:
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