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0s.gif Op vrijdag 1 augustus 2014 12:15 schreef oksel12 het volgende:

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Ja, maar waarom?
Omdat Maliki een dictator is die de soennieten onderdrukt.

ISIS onderdrukt geen mensen .
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0s.gif Op vrijdag 1 augustus 2014 12:17 schreef theunderdog het volgende:

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ISIS onderdrukt geen mensen .
ISIS onderdrukt geen sjiieten en christenen? Niet opzitten letten de afgelopen tijd?
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Net weer een executie video gezien van isis echt ongelooflijk hoe mensen kunnen zijn, massagraven, mannen die geëxecuteerd worden en in zee gegooid direct. Lijkt net een slachthuis
Zie!
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0s.gif Op vrijdag 1 augustus 2014 12:19 schreef oksel12 het volgende:

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ISIS onderdrukt geen sjiieten en christenen? Niet opzitten letten de afgelopen tijd?
ISIS onderdrukt inderdaad geen sjiieten en christenen, dat is althans niet hun doel.

En ik let heel goed op.
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0s.gif Op vrijdag 1 augustus 2014 12:24 schreef theunderdog het volgende:

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ISIS onderdrukt inderdaad geen sjiieten en christenen, dat is althans niet hun doel.
Wat is dit dan?
http://www.thewire.com/gl(...)g-christians/374834/
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Aantonen dat de islamitische staat er aan gaat komen.

Dat is geen onderdrukking. Christenen, sjiieten kunnen perfect leven onder de Sharia.
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Not all Iraqi Kurds welcome Israel's support

ERBIL - Israel is the only country that has voiced public support for Kurdish statehood. But not all Kurds are too keen on being seen as a ‘second Israel’ in an area surrounded by Arab states and amid the ongoing conflict between Palestinians and Israel. Some Kurds worry that Israel’s support for the Kurds could translate into suicide attacks and threats from Iran.

Israeli officials such as Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu this month endorsed Kurdish aspirations for Kurdish independence. Israel traditionally has had a policy of building relations with non-Arab states in the region in the 1950s, but this policy failed due to the Islamic revolution in Iran in 1979, and the breakdown of relations between Turkey and Israel. As a result they moved closer towards Cyprus, Greece, and Azerbaijan.

Before the Islamic revolution, the United States, the Iranian Shah and Israel backed the Kurdish revolution against the Iraqi government until the Iranian government betrayed the Kurds and signed a deal with Saddam Hussein in 1975. Moreover, many Kurds suspect Israel helped Turkey in capturing the Kurdistan Workers Party leader Abdullah Öcalan in 1999.

Israel sees the Kurds as a valuable ally against Iran, and any weak Arab state would benefit Israel in the region. The Iraqi government in Baghdad is closer to Iran and does not endorse any relations with Israel. Many Kurd civilians are sympathetic towards Israel, as a country being surrounded by Arab enemies, just like the Kurds face Arabs in Baghdad.

Despite the dangers, there is wide political support for relations between the Kurdish government in Iraq and Israel, although there are no official relations with Israel and the Palestinian consulate in Erbil, the capital of the Kurdistan region.

“I am saying this as a member of an Islamic party. All Arab countries have some form [D3] of relationship with Israel. Israel keeps attacking Sunni Arab areas in Gaza, and none of them are doing anything. It’s easy to stop that. If Kurdistan becomes a country, it will deal with the rest of the world based on its interests. There is no red line,” said Mariwan Galali, a Kurdish MP of the Kurdish Islamic Group.

“The late [Mullah] Mustafa Barzani said, we are a beggar in front of a mosque. We would welcome any donation for Kurdistan independence, without anything in return,” said Haji Kamaran, a Kurdish member of the Islamic Union of Kurdistan.

But the landlocked Kurds that are surrounded by Muslim neighbours do not benefit from Israeli support in a hostile region. Especially now when there is a conflict between Palestinians and Israel which has enraged the Muslim community during the Islamic fasting month of Ramadan and the ongoing reports that the Kurds sold oil to Israel.

The Kurds now have an unofficial 1,000 km border with militants of the al Qaeda offshoot, the Islamic state (IS), and official border crossings with Iran.

Kurdish MP Ari Hershen from the Kurdistan Democratic Party (KDP) recognized the difficulties of the geographical situation of the Kurds.

“It is a great challenge for Kurdistan’s independency. At the same time, Israel has problems with Iran, and Iran is our neighbour. It is a very delicate situation, but I think that in the near future the relations between Iran, the United States, and Israel will go further in a positive reaction. Especially under the leadership of [Iran’s president Hassan] Rouhani.”

The IS militants could use the Israeli public support to try to justify their attacks against the Kurds. On 12 July, at least 19 people were killed and 28 wounded in twin bomb explosions in the Kurdish controlled city of Kirkuk.

In the past, al-Qaeda justified similar attacks citing Kurdish support for the US overthrow of Saddam Hussein in 2003. In 2007, senior al-Qaeda leader Sheikh Ayman al-Zawahiri accused the Kurds of supporting a Crusader-Zionist occupation in Iraq.

“If Kurdistan works with Israel, they will accuse us of being Jews, and all the Jihadists from Egypt, Morocco, and other countries will come to Kurdistan to fight us. We don’t have any problem with Israel, but Kurdish independence is our right,” said Abdulaqadir Zaxoli, a Kurd who sells tires in the local market.

Iranian officials fiercely opposed the Israeli statements and the Kurdish calls for independence and suggested that they would never allow Netanyahu’s dreams to disintegrate Iraq materialize.

“Given the recent position taken by Netanyahu on supporting the Iraqi Kurdistan’s independence, any steps taken in this regard will implement the Zionist regime’s special goals in the region,’ Chairman of the Iranian parliament’s National Security and Foreign Policy Commission Alaeddin Boroujerdi said .

Iran's Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Marzieh Afkham said that Iran would never allow Iraq to disintegrate and supports the unity and integrity of Iraq.

“Undoubtedly the vigilant Iraqi people will not allow the Zionist regime and enemies of a unified Iraq to carry out their plots and realize their immature fantasies in the region,” Afkham noted.

Iran could increase their support for the Iraqi government against the Kurdistan Regional Government, block the Iranian border with the Kurdistan region or decrease water flows to the Kurdistan region of Iraq.

Moreover, any Israeli relations with the Kurds could endanger relations with Turkey.

“Israel woke up our neighbours. The Israeli statement is very dangerous. If Turkey or Iran closes the border, we are finished. We would not be able to export oil to Turkey, and our food comes from Iran and Turkey,” said Azad Harouti (35), a Kurdish lawyer.

On 7 July, the Kurdish NRT TV station reported the Iranian government decided to change the direction of a river that is the source of water for the Dukan lake in the Sulaymaniyah province.

Kurdish veteran politician and former Iraqi MP Dr. Mahmoud Othman told Middle East Eye that Israeli support is not beneficial for Kurds.

“It’s not good when they say this. Practically they can do nothing for the Kurds because they are geographically away. Moreover a lot of Arab countries, Islamic countries, Iran, maybe even Turkey would have a negative reaction. I think Kurds will not benefit from this and it would be better if they [Israelis] don’t talk about it.”

Thus many Iraqi Kurds would welcome any Israeli support they would prefer them to keep it secret.
http://www.middleeasteye.(...)ls-support-385868269
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0s.gif Op vrijdag 1 augustus 2014 12:27 schreef theunderdog het volgende:

Dat is geen onderdrukking. Christenen, sjiieten kunnen perfect leven onder de Sharia.
Als ze veel meer belasting betalen...
Hoe onderdrukt Maliki soennieten volgens jou?
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0s.gif Op vrijdag 1 augustus 2014 12:29 schreef oksel12 het volgende:

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Als ze veel meer belasting betalen...
Hoe onderdrukt Maliki sjiieten volgens jou?
Maliki onderdrukt geen sjiieten.
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The ISIS Caliphate’s Coming Blitz of Baghdad
Analysts say the Islamic State is about to launch a major offensive—but one built around commando raids and suicide bombings rather than a frontal attack.

The group’s military campaigns have made less news in recent weeks because they seemed to have stalled. Now, according to Western military analysts, it’s time to start worrying again. Those studying the attacks by the group formerly known as ISIS see critical changes in the bombings and skirmishing by the caliph’s troops and their allies in and around Baghdad. Some experts warn that a blitzkrieg—a lightning attack—is imminent, and it will be one the beleaguered and squabbling politicians in the Iraqi capital are ill equipped to combat. But it is more likely to be a guerrilla and terrorist offensive than an all-out push along conventional military lines.
http://www.thedailybeast.(...)litz-of-baghdad.html
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0s.gif Op vrijdag 1 augustus 2014 12:29 schreef theunderdog het volgende:

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Maliki onderdrukt geen sjiieten.
Ik bedoel natuurlijk soennieten...
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0s.gif Op vrijdag 1 augustus 2014 12:24 schreef theunderdog het volgende:

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ISIS onderdrukt inderdaad geen sjiieten en christenen, dat is althans niet hun doel.

En ik let heel goed op.
Wauw, oke :')
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0s.gif Op vrijdag 1 augustus 2014 12:30 schreef oksel12 het volgende:

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Ik bedoel natuurlijk soennieten...
http://www.dewereldmorgen(...)jn-de-echte-barbaren


http://www.zamanvandaag.n(...)eten-bij-wraakacties

[ Bericht 10% gewijzigd door timmmmm op 01-08-2014 12:56:34 ]
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Ik heb Hem niet uit vrees voor de hel noch uit liefde voor het paradijs gediend, want dan zou ik als de slechte huurling zijn geweest; ik heb hem veeleer gediend in liefde tot Hem en in verlangen naar Hem.
-Rabia Al-Basri
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0s.gif Op donderdag 31 juli 2014 19:20 schreef Nintex het volgende:
Saladin is toch degene die de Kruisvaarders versloeg en het heilige land weer veroverde.

Why the fuck zou je zijn standbeeld slopen?
elke standbeeld is godslastering in hun optiek
Ik heb Hem niet uit vrees voor de hel noch uit liefde voor het paradijs gediend, want dan zou ik als de slechte huurling zijn geweest; ik heb hem veeleer gediend in liefde tot Hem en in verlangen naar Hem.
-Rabia Al-Basri
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Wat wil je daarmee zeggen? Zulke verhalen zijn er net zo goed over ISIS.

[ Bericht 3% gewijzigd door timmmmm op 01-08-2014 12:56:47 ]
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0s.gif Op vrijdag 1 augustus 2014 12:39 schreef oksel12 het volgende:

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Wat wil je daarmee zeggen? Zulke verhalen zijn er net zo goed over ISIS.
ISIS heeft niet als doel om christenen, sjiieten te onderdrukken.
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0s.gif Op vrijdag 1 augustus 2014 12:42 schreef theunderdog het volgende:

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ISIS heeft niet als doel om christenen, sjiieten te onderdrukken.
Bron dat Maliki als doel heeft soennieten te onderdrukken?
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0s.gif Op vrijdag 1 augustus 2014 12:52 schreef oksel12 het volgende:

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Bron dat Maliki als doel heeft soennieten te onderdrukken?
Maliki is een dictator, die constant soennieten als tweederangsburgers heeft behandeld.
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Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi: Islamic State's driving force
In July 2013, a Bahraini ideologue Turki al-Binali, writing under the pen name Abu Humam Bakr bin Abd al-Aziz al-Athari, wrote a biography of Baghdadi.

It highlighted Baghdadi's family history which claims that Baghdadi was indeed a descendant of the Muslim Prophet Muhammad's Quraysh tribe - one of the key qualifications in Islamic history for becoming the caliph (historically, leader of all Muslims). It said that Baghdadi came from the al-Bu Badri tribe, which is primarily based in Samarra and Diyala, north and east of Baghdad respectively, and known historically for being descendants of Muhammad.

Turki al-Binali's tract continued by highlighting that prior to the US invasion of Iraq in 2003, Baghdadi received his PhD from the Islamic University of Baghdad, with a focus on Islamic culture, history, sharia, and jurisprudence. Baghdadi preached at the Imam Ahmad ibn Hanbal Mosque in Samarra. Baghdadi does not have credentials from esteemed Sunni religious establishments such as al-Azhar University in Cairo or the Islamic University of Medina in Saudi Arabia.

Nonetheless, he is more steeped in traditional Islamic education than either al-Qaeda's past and current leaders, Osama Bin Laden and Aymen al-Zawahiri, both laymen and an engineer and doctor respectively. This has conferred on Baghdadi a higher level of praise, worthiness, and legitimacy among his supporters.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28560449

"If one looks at the locations that the Islamic State has targeted to take over or currently controls, many are along both the Euphrates and Tigris rivers as well as areas that have oil in both Iraq and Syria. Baghdadi and the rest of the Islamic State leadership realise that if one has a monopoly on the energy (whether for human consumption or electrically powered devices) along with its growing military might, it is a lot easier to consolidate its writ, even if parts of the population disagree with its ideological project."
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Buyer of Kurdish crude oil is Talmay Trading of the British Virgin Islands
The buyer of Kurdish crude oil sitting off the coast of Texas is a company called Talmay Trading of the British Virgin Islands, CNBC has learned. According to documents seen by CNBC, Talmay, using a London shipbroker, hired AET Offshore Services of Dallas, Texas, on July 17, 2014, to unload roughly 1 million barrels of crude in the United Kalavytra, currently located off the coast of Texas near Galveston. Efforts to reach the ship broker were unsuccesful.

The crude is controversial because the semi-autonomous region of Kurdistan in Iraq drilled and shipped the oil in defiance of the Iraqi central government, who says the shipment is a violation of the Iraqi constitution.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/101874549#_gus
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0s.gif Op vrijdag 1 augustus 2014 12:53 schreef theunderdog het volgende:

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Maliki is een dictator, die constant soennieten als tweederangsburgers heeft behandeld.
En ISIS behandelt christenen als tweederangsburgers en is een dictatuur.
Waarom is ISIS nou beter dan Maliki?
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0s.gif Op vrijdag 1 augustus 2014 13:25 schreef oksel12 het volgende:

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En ISIS behandelt christenen als tweederangsburgers en is een dictatuur.
Waarom is ISIS nou beter dan Maliki?
ISIS is niet baas van een land.

Ze zitten in een conflict, natuurlijk vallen er slachtoffers. Nogal evident he.
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0s.gif Op vrijdag 1 augustus 2014 13:27 schreef theunderdog het volgende:

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ISIS is niet baas van een land.

Ze zitten in een conflict, natuurlijk vallen er slachtoffers. Nogal evident he.
Dit is niet nodig in een conflict:
http://www.thewire.com/gl(...)g-christians/374834/
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0s.gif Op vrijdag 1 augustus 2014 13:28 schreef oksel12 het volgende:

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Dit is niet nodig in een conflict:
http://www.thewire.com/gl(...)g-christians/374834/
Het stichten van een islamitische staat is hun doel.
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