[Centraal] Irak na de oorlog #67 Spannende tijden voor Irak

quote:

Op donderdag 17 juli 2014 23:26 schreef IPA35 het volgende:
Vind je dat raar? De Arabieren haten de Koerden nu eenmaal en minachten hun autonome status.

quote:

Op donderdag 17 juli 2014 23:26 schreef IPA35 het volgende:
Vind je dat raar? De Arabieren haten de Koerden nu eenmaal en minachten hun autonome status.

quote:

Op donderdag 17 juli 2014 23:28 schreef hafez1234 het volgende:

[..]

De Arabieren in Irak minachten de Koerden zo veel dat ze hen 17 miljard per jaar geven ondanks dat de Koerden illegaal olie verkopen.

quote:

Op donderdag 17 juli 2014 23:26 schreef IPA35 het volgende:
Vind je dat raar? De Arabieren haten de Koerden nu eenmaal en minachten hun autonome status.

quote:

Op donderdag 17 juli 2014 23:32 schreef Peunage het volgende:

[..]

Is dat een feit? De meeste geven volgens mij geen f**k om die autonome status. Die staat niet ter discussie.

quote:

Op donderdag 17 juli 2014 23:31 schreef IPA35 het volgende:

[..]

Beetje nutteloos aangezien het gemiddelde inkomen in het Koerdische gebied een stuk hoger is dan dat van de Arabieren. Komt ervan als je te druk bent met het afmaken van elkaar om de vraag of Abu Bakr nu wel of niet toffer was dan Ali.

quote:

Op donderdag 17 juli 2014 23:32 schreef IPA35 het volgende:

[..]

De haat is veel dieper en ouder.

quote:

Op donderdag 17 juli 2014 23:36 schreef hafez1234 het volgende:
Er zijn veel Irakezen in het Zuiden (Sjiieten) die graag willen dat de Koerden en de Soennitische Arabieren ( Noord-Westen gebied wat door ISIS is overgenomen) van Irak afscheiden. Bijna alle overheidsinkomsten komt uit het Zuiden van Irak daar liggen ook de meeste olievoorraden. Ze zijn het zat dat de inkomsten uit het Zuiden naar de Koerden en Soennieten gaat.

quote:

Op donderdag 17 juli 2014 23:38 schreef Peunage het volgende:

[..]

Precies, van mij hoeft die eenheid-blijheid-vrijheid niet.

quote:

Op donderdag 17 juli 2014 23:34 schreef Baghdaddy het volgende:

[..]

Basra haalt nog altijd het meeste binnen, dus jouw argument gaat niet op. Dat tweede is inderdaad nutteloos, maar wel waar helaas.

quote:

Op donderdag 17 juli 2014 23:34 schreef Peunage het volgende:

[..]

Als er zoiets bestaat dan zal het wel wederzijds zijn. Maar dat is echt niet de reden dat ze in Erbil allemaal illegale oliedealtjes sluiten.

quote:

Op donderdag 17 juli 2014 23:38 schreef Peunage het volgende:

[..]

Precies, van mij hoeft die eenheid-blijheid-vrijheid niet.

quote:

U.N. accuses Islamic State of executions, rape, forced child recruitment in Iraq

_{BAGHDAD Fri Jul 18, 2014 2:14pm EDT}

(Reuters) - The United Nations accused Islamic State fighters in Iraq of executions, rape and forced recruitment of children during a campaign to seize much of northern Iraq, part of a conflict it said has killed almost 5,600 civilians this year.

In a report, the U.N. focused on a range of violations committed against civilians, particularly by the Islamic State, though it also said Iraqi forces and allied fighters had not taken precautions to protect civilians from violence.

"(This)...may also amount to war crimes," it said in its report into months of unrest which culminated in advances by Sunni militants led by the al Qaeda offshoot Islamic State, formerly known as ISIL, across the north of the country.

true "ISIL and associated armed groups have also continued to... perpetrate targeted assassinations (of) community, political, and religious leaders, government employees, education professionals, health workers... sexual assault, rape and other forms of sexual violence against women and girls, forced recruitment of children, kidnappings, executions, robberies."

The report, the U.N.'s most comprehensive review of the impact of months of unrest, also accused the Islamic State of wanton destruction and plundering of places of worship and of cultural or historical significance.

"Every day we receive accounts of a terrible litany of human rights violations being committed in Iraq against ordinary Iraqi children, women and men, who have been deprived of their security, their livelihoods, their homes, education, healthcare and other basic services," U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights Navi Pillay said.

Iraq's Interior Ministry, citing testimony from a survivor, said this week that an investigation had revealed the Islamic State took 510 Shi’ite prisoners from a Mosul prison to nearby farmland and executed all but 17 who managed to flee.

The report also detailed violations committed by government forces and affiliated groups, citing "summary executions/extrajudicial killings of prisoners and detainees", which it said may constitute a war crime.

MALIKI SAYS STAYING PUT
Of the 2,400 people killed in June, 1,531 were civilians, the U.N. said earlier this month.

The report called on the government to investigate serious violations and to hold the perpetrators to account. But the capacity of the Shi'ite-led caretaker government to do so in the face of a Sunni uprising that threatens to fracture the country on sectarian and ethnic lines may be limited.

Iraqi politicians have yet to complete the formation of a new government more than three months after parliamentary elections. Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki faces pressure from Sunnis, Kurds and some Shi'ites to step aside after two terms in office in which his critics say he marginalized opponents.

In an interview published on Friday, Maliki, whose Shi'ite State of Law bloc won the most seats in parliament, reiterated his determination to form the next government.

"In free and democratic elections, we won the most votes and the constitution says that the leader of the strongest faction forms the government, so I want to run again for the post of prime minister in parliament," Maliki said in an interview with German mass-selling daily Bild.

He said some groups were trying to bypass the election result: "But we insist that the opinion and decision of the people be respected, and we won't make any compromises at the expense of the people and the legitimacy of the state."

As well as a new prime minister, parliament must agree on a likely replacement for President Jalal Talabani, who has been in Germany for treatment since suffering a stroke in December.

Talabani's office said he will fly back to Iraq on Saturday.

Although the presidency is a largely symbolic role, Talabani was widely seen as a unifying figure, both within Iraq and his own Patriotic Union of Kurdistan (PUK) party, which has struggled to contain internal divisions without him at the helm.

This week the PUK's Najmaldin Karim, who is also governor of Kirkuk, submitted his candidacy for president without the blessing of party leaders, sources said, challenging Barham Saleh, who had been touted as frontrunner for the position.

In the first, silent footage to be broadcast of him earlier this year, Talabani appeared much weakened, suggesting he is unlikely to be able to resume an active role in politics.

Parliament is due to meet next Wednesday for the next session of talks on choosing a political leadership to tackle the conflict, which has displaced more than 1 million people this year, according to the United Nations.

Uprooted by the violence, the displaced live in "cruel and difficult" conditions, the country's top Shi'ite cleric said in Friday sermon, criticizing Iraqi and international agencies for ignoring their plight.

"The institutions concerned with this are still not meeting the scale of the hardships and suffering, despite the promises that we heard of help," Grand Ayatollah Ali Sistani said in a sermon delivered by an aide the Shi'ite holy city of Karbala.

Security sources and witnesses said fighting continued on Friday in several towns north of Baghdad. Near the military base at Muqdadiya, 50 miles (80 km) north of the capital, militants blew up a bridge to prevent Kurdish Shi'ite tribes bringing reinforcements to confront them, they said.

quote:

Op zaterdag 19 juli 2014 17:39 schreef ChanceThePepper het volgende:
Ultimatum van ISIS voor christenen in Mosul: Jizya betalen, bekeren of de zwaard.

http://m.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28381455
http://english.ahram.org.(...)ns-face-grim-ch.aspx

Dit is te bizar voor woorden.

quote:

Op donderdag 17 juli 2014 23:31 schreef IPA35 het volgende:

[..]

Beetje nutteloos aangezien het gemiddelde inkomen in het Koerdische gebied een stuk hoger is dan dat van de Arabieren. Komt ervan als je te druk bent met het afmaken van elkaar om de vraag of Abu Bakr nu wel of niet toffer was dan Ali.

quote:

Op zaterdag 19 juli 2014 20:22 schreef Slayage het volgende:

[..]

quote:

Op zaterdag 19 juli 2014 20:34 schreef IPA35 het volgende:

Maar ik snap ook dat Europeanen een 30 jarige oorlog nodig hadden om religieuze oorlogen voor een groot deel af te leren.

quote:

Op zaterdag 19 juli 2014 20:38 schreef Slayage het volgende:

[..]

welke oorlog?

quote:

Op donderdag 17 juli 2014 23:36 schreef hafez1234 het volgende:
Er zijn veel Irakezen in het Zuiden (Sjiieten) die graag willen dat de Koerden en de Soennitische Arabieren ( Noord-Westen gebied wat door ISIS is overgenomen) van Irak afscheiden. Bijna alle overheidsinkomsten komt uit het Zuiden van Irak daar liggen ook de meeste olievoorraden. Ze zijn het zat dat de inkomsten uit het Zuiden naar de Koerden en Soennieten gaat.

quote:

Op zaterdag 19 juli 2014 20:54 schreef kurd0w het volgende:

[..]

Ach joh, jij bent mij er toch eentje; de Irakezen willen helemaal niet dat de Koerden afscheiden omdat er olie (lees; heeel veel olie) in de grond zit daar. En je deelt de inkomsten van een land omdat je een samenleving bent. Denk je niet dat de Hollanders af willen scheiden van Limburg, waar de economie prut is?

quote:

Op zaterdag 19 juli 2014 21:03 schreef IPA35 het volgende:

[..]

Als Gelderlander zijnde mag ik het toch niet hopen...

quote:

Islamic State overwhelms Iraqi forces at Tikrit in major defeat

IRBIL, Iraq -- Islamic State gunmen overran a former U.S. military base early Friday and killed or captured hundreds of Iraqi government troops who’d been trying to retake Saddam Hussein’s hometown of Tikrit, the worst military reversal Iraqi troops have suffered since the Islamist forces captured nearly half the country last month.

The defeat brought to an end a three-week campaign by the government in Baghdad to recapture Tikrit, which fell to the Islamic State on June 11. Military spokesmen earlier this week had confidently announced a final push to recapture the city.

Instead, Islamic State forces turned back the army’s thrust up the main highway Wednesday. Beginning late Thursday, the Islamist forces stormed Camp Speicher, a former U.S. military base named for a pilot who disappeared during the 1991 Persian Gulf War, and overwhelmed the troops there.

Witnesses reached by phone, who asked not be identified for security reasons, said that by Friday morning the final pocket of government troops had collapsed, an ignominious end for a counteroffensive that had begun with a helicopter assault into Tikrit University but ended with troops trapped at Camp Speicher.

There was no comment from the Iraqi government. On Wednesday, the military had acknowledged that its forces had made what it called a “tactical retreat” to Ajwa, a town about 10 miles south of Tikrit, after the push into the city failed.

Interviews with Tikrit residents and statements on Twitter accounts associated with the Islamic State described massive government losses. One Twitter post said Islamic State militants had shot down or destroyed on the ground as many as eight helicopters, a number that if confirmed would be a catastrophic loss for the government. Another Twitter posting said Islamic State militants had set the base’s fuel storage tanks on fire and that a suicide bomber had attacked a “gathering” of government soldiers.

One resident said that as many as 700 government soldiers and 150 fighters he described as Iranians, but who may have been Shiite Muslim militiamen, had participated in the final battle. Sunni Muslims in central Iraq often inaccurately describe Iraqi Shiites as Iranians.

“They were being bombarded and mortared all night, and by Friday morning you could see burning helicopters everywhere and the fighting had stopped,” the resident said.

He said many of the captured soldiers had been executed. “They are parading prisoners through the streets of Tikrit,” the resident said.

A military officer from the Kurdish peshmerga militia, who until the recent political split between the Kurdistan Regional Government and Baghdad had served in the Iraqi military’s special forces, confirmed the defeat.

“The government forces, which were a mix of regular army, special forces units and Shiite militias, have been destroyed,” he said, speaking only on the condition of anonymity so as not to aggravate the already poisonous relationship between the Kurds and the government of Prime Minister Nouri al Maliki in Baghdad.

“When they were unable to push past Ajwa with reinforcements on Wednesday, their fate was sealed,” the officer said.

The Kurdish officer said he doubted the residents’ account of 150 Iranians present in the fighting, though he said it was possible that Iranians had taken command of Shiite militias fighting with government soldiers. He said he thought that Iran’s commander in Iraq, Gen. Qassem Suleimani, had begun to re-evaluate the strategy for assisting the government in recapturing territory taken by the Islamic State.

“Hajj Qassem,” he said, referring to Suleimani with an honorific, “has given up on the Iraqi army. His plan in Iraq is to replicate the plan which worked for him in Syria: to use the army to hold checkpoints but properly train elite fighters to do the real fighting, like he’s done with Hezbollah and other Syrian militias.”

The officer cast doubt, however, on the quality of those forces. “In Iraq, there is no Hezbollah,” he said, referring to the Lebanese militia renowned for its fighting prowess.

quote:

Op zaterdag 19 juli 2014 21:41 schreef IPA35 het volgende:
Sarin op Raqqa en Mosul lijkt me wel wat. De lokale bevolking steunt ISIS toch...

quote:

Op zondag 20 juli 2014 13:40 schreef Djibril het volgende:

[..]

Raqqa niet erg denk ik, die werd gewoon makkelijk weg gegeven door assad.
Mosul is gewoon een baathisten stad, zonder saddam zaten ze waarschijnlijk niet eens in Mosul.
Baathisten=Kutvolk

quote:

Op zondag 20 juli 2014 16:57 schreef Jigzoz het volgende:
En de nazi-activiteiten gaan door:

twitter:

rmshava twitterde op vrijdag 18-07-2014 om 00:34:49 BREAKING: Verified that #ISIS is marking #Mosul Assyrian homes with an "n" for "Nasrany," Arabic word for #Christian http://t.co/W7FHtru7oM reageer retweet

quote:

Op zondag 20 juli 2014 17:02 schreef Jigzoz het volgende:
Is die woordkeuze van jou?

quote:

Ik kan het ook wel op de man af vragen: ben jij ISIS-sympathisant?

quote:

Op zondag 20 juli 2014 17:05 schreef Charismatisch het volgende:

[..]

Gezuiverd als in http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etnische_zuivering

quote:

Op zondag 20 juli 2014 17:29 schreef Aloulou het volgende:
450 dollar per jaar jizya moesten zij betalen. Weet niet wat het gemiddelde jaarsalaris is in Irak? Kan mij voorstellen dat vooral in de oorlogsgebieden dat niet zo hoog is, alsmede dat je daar niet zo makkelijk aan een vast inkomen of baan komt.

quote:

Op zondag 20 juli 2014 19:57 schreef Baklava95 het volgende:

[..]

Moet zeker propaganda zijn.

Want IS laat het nooit toe dat er zomaar hun vlaggen van gebouwen worden verwijderd.

En IS geeft nooit grond prijs aan andere groepen.

quote:

Christenen na 2000 jaar weg uit Mosul

_{zo 20 jul 2014, 09:38}

BAGDAD - De oude christelijke gemeenschap in Mosul is sinds zaterdag zo goed als vertrokken uit de Noord-Irakese stad. Radicale moslims hadden de christenen een ultimatum gesteld. De christelijke gemeenschap leefde al bijna 2000 jaar in Mosul.

Strijders van de Islamitische Staat in Irak en al-Sham namen Mosul onlangs in. Een paar honderd christenen bleven toch in de stad. Maar deze week stelden de extremisten de christenen een ultimatum dat zaterdagmiddag afliep: bekeer je tot de islam en betaal een religieuze belasting of kom om door het zwaard.

Een katholieke bisschop uit Mosul zei dat de afgelopen dagen 150 christelijke families de stad achter zich hebben gelaten.

quote:

Baghdad (IraqiNews.com) The Secretariat General of the holy shrine of Imam Abbas (PBUH) announced preparing to host the Christian families who were displaced from their houses in Nineveh province.

Many Christian families were forced to depart their houses under gun point by the terrorists who threatened to kill them if they do not convert to the Islam as reported in detail by IraqiNews.com: URGENT: Christians in Mosul flee after ISIS’ deadline expires

The terrorists affiliated with the so-called Islamic State of Iraq and Levant granted the Christians in Mosul a duration of three days to convert to Islam, face death, pay an extortionate Jizya tribute or leave and have their property confiscated as reported on Friday by IraqiNews.com: ISIL leader Al-Baghdadi gives Christians 24 hours to leave Nineveh, directs ISIL to loot Christian property.

twitter:

HayderSH twitterde op dinsdag 22-07-2014 om 22:12:28 Another explosion at Kadhmiya checkpoint in #Baghdad now. 20 killed and 55 wounded so far according to sources. reageer retweet

quote:

Op dinsdag 22 juli 2014 23:22 schreef Baklava95 het volgende:
Wanneer valt Bagdad.