hier linkje van het artikel zelf.quote:Op woensdag 30 oktober 2013 18:38 schreef Syntix het volgende:
'NSA tapte in het geheim Yahoo en Google af'
Er gaat weinig veranderen. Althans, totdat er dingen naar buiten komen die mensen direct begrijpen.quote:Op woensdag 30 oktober 2013 18:38 schreef Syntix het volgende:
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Amerika![]()
Hoe zullen ze zich hier onderuit gaan praten? Ik stel voor dat de NSA keihard wordt aangepakt en Amerika (de overheid). Gewoon even de wereld tegen Amerika doen, zodat ze hun plek weer kennen.
Omdat de VS de enige zijn (voor zover nu bekend althans) wiens paranoia zich niet alleen tot haar eigen burgers en bedrijven beperkt maar waar de complete planeet last van heeft.quote:Op woensdag 30 oktober 2013 19:28 schreef Dlocks het volgende:
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Ja, want Rusland en China houden zich niet bezig met afluisterpraktijken.![]()
Dus we kunnen wel vastellen dat China, Rusland en vrijwel alle westerse landen zich bezig houden met dit soort praktijken. Dus wie zou het niet moeten toestaan en waarom zou die zich alleen op de VS moeten richten?
Dan heb je het nieuws de laatste tijd niet goed gevolgd... Van ECHELON heb je zeker ook nog nooit gehoord?quote:Op woensdag 30 oktober 2013 22:17 schreef Tocadisco het volgende:
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Omdat de VS de enige zijn (voor zover nu bekend althans) wiens paranoia zich niet alleen tot haar eigen burgers en bedrijven beperkt maar waar de complete planeet last van heeft.
quote:Amid NSA spying revelations, tech leaders call for new restraints on agency
Six leading technology companies — Facebook, Google, Apple, Yahoo, Microsoft and AOL — sent a letter to Senate leaders Thursday reflecting the sharpening industry strategy, praising the sponsors of a bill that would end the bulk collection of phone records of millions of Americans and create a privacy advocate to represent civil liberties interests within the secretive court that oversees the NSA.
“Transparency is a critical first step to an informed public debate, but it is clear that more needs to be done,” said the letter, which was sent to Sen. Patrick J. Leahy (D-Vt.), chairman of the Judiciary Committee and one of the bill’s sponsors, as well as three other senators. “Our companies believe that government surveillance practices should also be reformed to include substantial enhancements to privacy protections and appropriate oversight and accountability mechanisms for those programs.”
Although historically wary of Washington, the technology industry has been bulking up its political operations in the nation’s capital for several years. It took a public stand against the Stop Online Piracy Act, commonly known as SOPA, with a massive Internet protest last year. More recently, tech leaders made a high-profile push in the immigration debate, calling for more visas for foreign-born workers.
The tone of industry reaction to the NSA revelations has grown more aggressive since the first stories appeared in The Washington Post and Britain’s Guardian newspaper in June. Companies that initially were focused on defending their reputations gradually began criticizing the government and challenging it in court. Some companies also have worked to harden their networks against infiltration.
A turning point came with Thursday’s Post revealing an NSA program that collects user information from Google and Yahoo as it moves among data centers overseas. To some, this amounted to a degree of intrusiveness that, though speculated about by privacy activists, was beyond what many in the industry thought possible.
Ik vraag me af hoeveel telefoontjes er per maand worden gepleegd maar het zou me niks verbazen als ze gewoon de metadata van alle telefoongesprekken opslaan. Interessanter is hoe ze aan die informatie komen.quote:Op donderdag 31 oktober 2013 22:30 schreef Eyjafjallajoekull het volgende:
http://www.nu.nl/prism/36(...)e-gesprekken-af.html
Vertel mij dit. Als ze niet luisteren naar gesprekken, hoe weten ze dan welke gesprekken interessant genoeg zijn om meta-data van op te slaan.
Ah, ook in het Nederlands te lezen:quote:
quote:Google en Facebook zijn woedend op de NSA - te laat?
De grote Amerikaanse technologiebedrijven reageren woedend op het nieuws dat de Amerikaanse inlichtingendienst NSA samen met zijn Britse tegenhanger GCHQ in het geheim datastromen van ze zou aftappen. Tegelijkertijd zijn de bedrijven al maanden bezig er maatregelen tegen te nemen. Hebben ze boter op het hoofd? .
Nog maar een paar maanden geleden waren Google, Microsoft, Facebook en andere grote Amerikaanse technologiebedrijven er als de kippen bij om te benadrukken dat ze het liever anders zagen, maar dat ze niets anders konden doen dan gehoor geven aan de verzoeken om gebruikersinformatie van inlichtingendiensten. Ze werkten wel mee bij het verzamelen van informatie, maar alleen als ze daar juridisch toe verplicht waren, was hun boodschap. Facebook, Google, Yahoo, allemaal kwamen ze vrij kort na Snowdens onthullingen met rapporten waarin ze de gegevensaanvragen van wereldwijde overheden uit de doeken deden. Ze spanden ook rechtszaken aan waarin ze eisten om meer van dergelijke gegevens te mogen openbaren. Ze wilden daarmee voor meer transparantie zorgen.
Nu de ware aard van de afluisterpraktijken veel ernstiger blijkt dan gedacht, is de ergernis over de onthullingen van Snowden omgeslagen in woede. Het lijkt er nauwelijks meer toe te doen of de bedrijven hun gegevens wel of niet met tegenzin aan de inlichtingendiensten overhandigden, als die diensten stiekem toch al in de gegevens aan het grasduinen waren. In een brief aan politici (zie onderaan de tekst - niet in de app) pleiten de grote internetbedrijven ervoor om de wijze waarop inlichtingendiensten informatie vergaren eens flink op de schop te nemen. Ze willen nu niet alleen meer transparantie, maar ook aanpassing van de regels.
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Ok, ik herzie mijn mening.quote:Miranda was zich er volgens de autoriteiten van bewust dat de documenten die hij in zijn bezit had mensen in levensgevaar kon brengen. Ook zou openbaring van de documenten, of de dreigende openbaring, de bedoeling hebben de regering te beïnvloeden en politieke of ideologische doelen te bevorderen. 'Daarom valt dit binnen de definitie van terrorisme', aldus het document dat tijdens een rechtszitting deze week werd voorgelezen.
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De gevolgen van de argumenten van de anti-rook maffia
Nee, onder curatele van de burger. Politici zijn onbetrouwbare schoften.quote:Op vrijdag 1 november 2013 20:33 schreef beantherio het volgende:
Organisaties als de NSA zouden onder curatele moeten worden gezet door de politiek.
Ja, idd, zo kun je uiteindelijk alles wel als terroristisch bestempelen.quote:Op zaterdag 2 november 2013 18:24 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:
Journalisten zijn terroristen!
Yep. Alle burgers zijn terroristen en dienen afgeluistert te worden.quote:Op zaterdag 2 november 2013 20:14 schreef gebrokenglas het volgende:
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Ja, idd, zo kun je uiteindelijk alles wel als terroristisch bestempelen.
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quote:The detention of the partner of a former Guardian journalist has triggered fresh concerns after it emerged that a key reason cited by police for holding him under terrorism powers was the belief that he was promoting a "political or ideological cause".
The revelation has alarmed leading human rights groups and a Tory MP, who said the justification appeared to be without foundation and threatened to have damaging consequences for investigative journalism.
twitter:YourAnonNews twitterde op zaterdag 02-11-2013 om 23:42:02Over 1,500 contributors have donated a total of almost $60,000 to #Snowden's defense fund: http://t.co/dRJddhgJXW reageer retweet
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quote:The Journalistic Source Protection Defence Fund raises money for journalistic sources' legal defence. Periodically it will nominate sources it wishes to direct legal and campaign aide to. For its first source it has selected Mr Edward Snowden whose revelations have exposed the extent to which the world is being mass surveilled by the United States.
Derek Rothera & Company Charted Accountants is appointed to administer the Fund, which is governed by the laws of the United Kingdom. The Journalistic Source Protection Defence Fund is audited and can only spend funds on the legal defence campaign of the nominated journalistic sources. The terms of the fund and its trustees can be obtained from Rothera & Co.
Mr Snowden is currently in Russia where he has been granted temporary asylum. The United States government is exerting substantial pressure on Russia and other countries in an attempt to force Mr Snowden to the United States where he will face decades in prison or worse.
Mr Snowden's legal defence and its associated public campaign will be a long and expensive journey which will only be overcome with your support. Support the right to know. Support Edward Snowden.
if you are donating with a credit card or PayPal please click on the big orange "GIVE" button above to the right of the photo of Mr Snowden, but for other ways to donate please see below.
quote:Brazil and Germany draft anti-spy resolution at UN
Germany and Brazil have asked the UN General Assembly to adopt a draft resolution calling for the right to privacy in the digital age.
The draft calls for an end to excessive electronic surveillance, noting that the illegal collection of personal data "constitutes a highly intrusive act".
Brazil and Germany have both been angered by allegations of large-scale US surveillance.
The allegations stem from revelations by US whistleblower Edward Snowden.
'Deeply concerned'
The draft resolution, which does not name individual countries, will be debated by a General Assembly committee focusing on human rights.
The draft calls on the 193-member assembly to declare that it is "deeply concerned at human rights violations and abuses that may result from the conduct of any surveillance of communications".
This includes "extraterritorial surveillance of communications, their interception, as well as the collection of personal data, in particular massive surveillance, interception and data collection".
The resolution, which will be voted on later this month, calls on all countries to protect the right to privacy guaranteed under international law.
While General Assembly resolutions are non-binding, they can carry significant moral and political weight if they win enough support.
The draft follows allegations that the US has been eavesdropping on foreign leaders, including Brazilian President Dilma Rousseff and German Chancellor Angela Merkel, angering US allies in Europe and Asia.
Disclosures about the extent of US spying activity came from documents leaked to media organisations by former National Security Agency (NSA) contractor Edward Snowden.
The German government earlier said it was keen to speak directly to Mr Snowden about US surveillance activities, after it was revealed the NSA had been bugging Mrs Merkel's mobile phone for years.
Mr Snowden had earlier met German Green MP Hans-Christian Stroebele in Moscow and expressed his readiness to brief the German government on NSA spying.
His lawyers said any meeting with German investigators would take place in Moscow, not Germany.
The German chancellor's anxiety about US spying overshadowed last week's EU summit, when she remarked with irritation that spying on friends is "really not on".
Ms Rousseff was angered by revelations that the NSA had hacked the computer network of Brazil's state-run oil company Petrobras to collect data on emails and telephone calls.
US Secretary of State John Kerry acknowledged on Friday that in some cases, US spying had gone too far.
He said he would work with President Barack Obama to prevent further inappropriate actions by the NSA.
Mr Snowden, 30, fled to Russia in June after leaking details of far-reaching US telephone and internet espionage. He has temporary asylum, allowing him to live in Russia, until July 2014.
Mr Snowden's lawyer said his client had started work on Friday for a major private website in Russia but did not disclose which site, citing security concerns.
The scale of the alleged US espionage has provoked international concern and calls for tighter supervision.
Asian countries have also protested at claims that Australia was involved in a US-led spy network, with Indonesia summoning the Australian ambassador to Jakarta.
"Imagine we leak it all...."twitter:ggreenwald twitterde op zondag 03-11-2013 om 11:22:38More NSA Leakers Followed Snowden’s Footsteps, Whistleblower Lawyer Says #Correct http://t.co/qLglzfCMC9 reageer retweet
En dan het stukje onderinquote:
Ah juist. Dus als je iets belooft niet meer te doen is de kwestie afgedaan blijkbaar?quote:Het was al bekend dat de NSA spioneerde bij de Verenigde Naties. Het afluisteren van de Verenigde Naties is in strijd met de internationale wetgeving. Woensdag maakten de Verenigde Staten duidelijk dat de VN niet meer zullen worden afgeluisterd.
quote:NSA leaks: UK government reaction eroding freedom, rights groups warn
Coalition of organisations says Cameron's response has damaged UK's reputation for freedom of expression
quote:Seventy of the world's leading human rights organisations have written to David Cameron to warn that the government's reaction to the mass surveillance revealed by Edward Snowden is leading to an erosion of fundamental rights and freedoms in the UK.
The coalition, which includes organisations from 40 countries, said it had become increasingly alarmed at the way the UK government had applied pressure on media groups covering the leaks and its use of national security concerns to close down important public interest debates.
"We have joined together as an international coalition because we believe that the United Kingdom government's response to the revelations of mass surveillance of digital communications is eroding fundamental human rights in the country," the letter states. "The government's response has been to condemn, rather than celebrate investigative journalism, which plays a crucial role in a healthy democratic society."
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Get the Yank where it hurts: Their wallets.quote:
Die 'trade' talks waarbij grote multinationals meer macht krijgen over regeringenquote:Op dinsdag 5 november 2013 19:14 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:
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Get the Yank where it hurts: Their wallets.
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quote:Several more current and former National Security Agency insiders, inspired by American fugitive Edward Snowden, have come forward as whistleblowers with details of the shadowy agency’s operations, according to an attorney at a whistleblower protection organization.
quote:Statement by Sarah Harrison on Edward Snowden.
Wednesday 6 November 2013, 18:30 CET
As a journalist I have spent the last four months with NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden and arrived in Germany over the weekend. I worked in Hong Kong as part of the WikiLeaks team that brokered a number of asylum offers for Snowden and negotiated his safe exit from Hong Kong to take up his legal right to seek asylum. I was travelling with him on our way to Latin America when the United States revoked his passport, stranding him in Russia. For the next 39 days I remained with him in the transit zone of Moscow’s Sheremetyevo airport, where I assisted in his legal application to 21 countries for asylum, including Germany, successfully securing his asylum in Russia despite substantial pressure by the United States. I then remained with him until our team was confident that he had established himself and was free from the interference of any government.
Whilst Edward Snowden is safe and protected until his asylum visa is due to be renewed in nine months’ time, there is still much work to be done. The battle Snowden joined against state surveillance and for government transparency is one that WikiLeaks – and many others – have been fighting, and will continue to fight.
WikiLeaks’ battles are many: we fight against unaccountable power and government secrecy, publishing analysis and documents for all affected and to forever provide the public with the history that is theirs. For this, we are fighting legal cases in many jurisdictions and face an unprecedented Grand Jury investigation in the United States. WikiLeaks continues to fight for the protection of sources. We have won the battle for Snowden’s immediate future, but the broader war continues.
Already, in the few days I have spent in Germany, it is heartening to see the people joining together and calling for their government to do what must be done – to investigate NSA spying revelations, and to offer Edward Snowden asylum. The United States should no longer be able to continue spying on every person around the globe, or persecuting those that speak the truth.
Snowden is currently safe in Russia, but there are whistleblowers and sources to whom this does not apply. Chelsea Manning has been subject to abusive treatment by the United States government and is currently serving a 35-year sentence for exposing the true nature of war. Jeremy Hammond is facing a decade in a New York jail for allegedly providing journalists with documents that exposed corporate surveillance. I hope I have shown a counter example: with the right assistance whistleblowers can speak the truth and keep their liberty.
Aggressive tactics are being used against journalists, publishers and experts who work so courageously to bring truth to the world. Glenn Greenwald, Laura Poitras and Jacob Appelbaum are all in effective exile. Barrett Brown is indicted for reporting on unethical surveillance practices. My editor Julian Assange has asylum over US threats, but the United Kingdom refuses to allow him to fully exercise this right, violating the law. The UK government also detained David Miranda under the UK Terrorism Act for collaborating with Laura Poitras and Glenn Greenwald.
The UK Terrorism Act defines terrorism as the action or threat of action "designed to influence" any government "for the purpose of promoting a political or ideological cause". It prescribes actions that interfere with the functioning of an "electronic system" (i.e. the NSA’s bulk spying program) or which the government alleges create a "risk" to a section of the public. It should be fanciful to suggest that national security journalism which has the purpose of producing honest government or enforcing basic privacy rights should be called "terrorism", but that is how the UK is choosing to interpret this law. Almost every story published on the GCHQ and NSA bulk spying programs falls under the UK government’s interpretation of the word "terrorism". In response, our lawyers have advised me that it is not safe to return home.
The job of the press is to speak truth to power. And yet for doing our job we are persecuted. I say that these aggressive and illegal tactics to silence us – inventing arbitrary legal interpretations, over-zealous charges and disproportionate sentences – must not be permitted to succeed. I stand in solidarity with all those intimidated and persecuted for bringing the truth to the public.
In these times of secrecy and abuse of power there is only one solution – transparency. If our governments are so compromised that they will not tell us the truth, then we must step forward to grasp it. Provided with the unequivocal proof of primary source documents people can fight back. If our governments will not give this information to us, then we must take it for ourselves.
When whistleblowers come forward we need to fight for them, so others will be encouraged. When they are gagged, we must be their voice. When they are hunted, we must be their shield. When they are locked away, we must free them. Giving us the truth is not a crime. This is our data, our information, our history. We must fight to own it.
Courage is contagious.
Sarah Harrison, Wednesday 6 November 2013, Berlin
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