Al meer dan 2 maanden hongerstaking Guantanamo Bay

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Op donderdag 30 mei 2013 08:59 schreef Peunage het volgende:
Ik heb niet gezegd "elke terrorist". Er is een rapport dat na onderzoek stelt dat maar 5% van de gevangenen door Amerikanen zijn opgepakt als strijders. De grote meerderheid zijn door de Afghanen en Pakistanen aangeleverd.

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Op donderdag 18 juli 2013 17:59 schreef Pharmacist het volgende:

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Dat is natuurlijk wel een misleidend statement omdat het suggereert dat 95% onschuldig is (iets dat ik vaak geclaimd heb gezien). Echter, iemand die niet als strijder is opgepakt is daarmee niet per definitie onschuldig.

Overigens ontken ik niet dat er onschuldigen zitten. Niet dat ik het kan weten, maar het lijkt me sterk van niet gezien de geschiedenis. Het lijkt me sowieso verstandig te realiseren dat het niet zo zwart-wit is als "terrorist" en "niet-terrorist".

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Op donderdag 18 juli 2013 18:03 schreef deelnemer het volgende:

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Je hebt een normaal proces nodig om dat uit te zoeken.

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Op donderdag 18 juli 2013 19:24 schreef Opa2012 het volgende:

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Kun je dat proces, waarbij het 100% zeker is dat er geen terrorist vrijkomt, uitleggen.

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Op donderdag 18 juli 2013 17:59 schreef Pharmacist het volgende:

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Dat is natuurlijk wel een misleidend statement omdat het suggereert dat 95% onschuldig is (iets dat ik vaak geclaimd heb gezien). Echter, iemand die niet als strijder is opgepakt is daarmee niet per definitie onschuldig.

Overigens ontken ik niet dat er onschuldigen zitten. Niet dat ik het kan weten, maar het lijkt me sterk van niet gezien de geschiedenis. Het lijkt me sowieso verstandig te realiseren dat het niet zo zwart-wit is als "terrorist" en "niet-terrorist".

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Based on the Summary of Evidence memos prepared for 517 Guantanamo captives' Combatant Status Review Tribunals, first published in the Winter and Spring of 2005.[3]
Asserted that about 5% of the detainees had been captured by United States soldiers on a battlefield; 86% were captured by Afghan and Pakistanis or Pakistani border guards. They turned over prisoners to US forces, when the US was widely paying bounties of $5,000 per prisoner.[3]

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Based on the studies done by the Center for Policy and Research, revealed 14 myths which the Bush administration had been saying about Guantanamo detainees and operations.

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Myth Number One: Guantánamo Holds the Worst of the Worst.
Reality: While there may be a few high-value prisoners, the average detainee is someone
who poses little or no threat to the United States.

Myth Number Two: Guantánamo holds fighters for al Qaeda and the Taliban.
Reality: Fewer than 10% conceivably fit that description.

Myth Number Three: The detainees were captured by American troops on the battlefield
in Afghanistan.
Reality: No more than 8% could possibly fit this description

Myth Number Four: The detainees are affiliated with groups that are all terrorist
organizations.
Reality: Many of the detainees are held for affiliations which, even if true, would not
prevent them from entry to the U.S.

Myth Number Five: Even if the detainees are not now a threat to national security, they
have valuable information that can be used in Americas War on Terror.
Reality: There is little interrogation taking place.

Myth Number Six: The government knows who it is holding.
Reality: After three or more years of detention, the government cannot correctly identify
many of the detainees

Myth Number Seven: The CSRT process is designed to identify enemy combatants.
Reality: The definition of enemy combatants is overly broad.

Myth Number Eight: Detainees are given a meaningful opportunity to consult with a
representative.
Reality: The Personal Representative is not the detainees advocate.

Myth Number Nine: Detainees are given a meaningful opportunity to challenge the
governments reasons for detention.
Reality: The Government never called a single witness and for 93% of the detainees
presented no other evidence.

Myth Number Ten: Detainees were allowed to present evidence on their own behalf.
Reality: Detainees were not allowed to produce any witness evidence other than, in a
very few cases, other detainees, and they were only allowed to produce pro forma
evidence, such as letters, that were from relatives.

Myth Number Eleven: The CSRT did not credit evidence obtained by coercion.
Reality: The CSRTs made no effort to ascertain whether evidence claimed to have been
coerced was legitimately obtained.

Myth Number Twelve: The detainees are treated firmly but fairly.
Reality: Guantánamo treatment is, at best, harsh and dehumanizing, and it remains so
for detainees even when they have been determined to be no longer enemy combatants.

Myth Number Thirteen: The CSRT process is viewed as legitimate fact finding by the
military.
Reality: The result is preordained and the processes are disregarded throughout, to the
detriment of the participating military personnel as well as the detainees.

Myth Number Fourteen: Habeas Corpus is not needed because the CSRT process can be
cured.
Reality: More, less, different or better CSRT procedures can not cure defects of unfair
and rigged decision making.

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The Pentagon has announced 71 Guantánamo Bay prisoners will face parole-style hearings at an undetermined date. The six-member, all-military boards will not rule on whether prisoners are being lawfully held, but if their imprisonment is needed to protect the United States from major threats. In addition to having no timetable, the military has yet to disclose which prisoners will go first and whether the media will be allowed to observe. President Obama first ordered the reviews two years ago. The 71 prisoners do not include the 86 others who have already been cleared for release but remain behind bars. The news comes amidst a prolonged hunger strike by Guantánamo prisoners, with at least 46 being force-fed.