Alien doofpot exposed!

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topic nummertje 4 je loopt een beetje achter joellsoares

Ja mooi man maar gebruik de search gewoon ff

en dan blijkt het allemaal fake te zijn achteraf

Buitenaardse cover up blootgelegd!

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Op vrijdag 12 april 2013 15:34 schreef nuget het volgende:
en dan blijkt het allemaal fake te zijn achteraf

Ja, stél je voor!

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Op vrijdag 12 april 2013 15:34 schreef nuget het volgende:
en dan blijkt het allemaal fake te zijn achteraf

Dat is vooraf al het geval.

Zoals ik al eerder postte is dit totale quatsch.

http://rense.com/general50/ec.htm

Ik ga het niet weer uitleggen dus lees zelf even.

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Op vrijdag 12 april 2013 16:10 schreef LostInYourEyes het volgende:
Zoals ik al eerder postte is dit totale quatsch.

http://rense.com/general50/ec.htm

Ik ga het niet weer uitleggen dus lees zelf even.

Rense. Ufo's Denken dat er buitenaards leven is.

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Op vrijdag 12 april 2013 16:14 schreef joellsoares het volgende:
Nep is het zeker niet
De waarheid word al 52 achtergehouden, en komt nu eindelijk boven water.
Er word vooral lacherig gedaan over het onderwerp aliens, maar je zou er eens serieus naar moeten kijken. Ontkenning is in dit geval blindheid.

Hoezo? Zolang er nooit tastbaar bewijs is valt er weinig te ontkennen., Daarnaast, de mensen die hoog en laag springen om te verkondigen dat er wel bewijs is zijn vaak ook niet de meest geloofwaardige types.

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Op vrijdag 12 april 2013 16:11 schreef IkStampOpTacos het volgende:

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Rense. Ufo's Denken dat er buitenaards leven is.

Lees het eerst even voordat je onzin komt praten, er wordt JUIST gezegd dat aliens(die zouden willen aanvallen of iets) gezwets is.

Denken dat er geen buitenaards leven is en wij het enige leven in het universum zijn is trouwens ook

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Op vrijdag 12 april 2013 16:23 schreef LostInYourEyes het volgende:

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Lees het eerst even voordat je onzin komt praten, er wordt JUIST gezegd dat aliens(die zouden willen aanvallen of iets) gezwets is.

Denken dat er geen buitenaards leven is en wij het enige leven in het universum zijn is trouwens ook

Nee.

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Op vrijdag 12 april 2013 16:24 schreef IkStampOpTacos het volgende:

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Nee.

Luister anders even naar Robbert Dijkgraaf, ik denk dat die er wel iets meer verstand van heeft dan jou.
http://dewerelddraaitdoor.vara.nl/media/68957

Denken dat er geen buitenaards leven is, is vele malen belachelijker dan denken dat er wel ergens in dit universum leven bestaat, is zijn antwoord.

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Op vrijdag 12 april 2013 16:25 schreef LostInYourEyes het volgende:

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Luister anders even naar Robbert Dijkgraaf, ik denk dat die er wel iets meer verstand van heeft dan jou.
http://dewerelddraaitdoor.vara.nl/media/68957

Denken dat er geen buitenaards leven is, is vele malen belachelijker dan denken dat er wel ergens in dit universum leven bestaat, is zijn antwoord.

Nee, er is tot op heden nog nooit wat gevonden, gezien of gehoord. Niets, niks dat ook maar enigzins wijst op het feit dat er misschien ergens ooit buitenaards leven gevonden wordt. Dus wie is hier nou gek? Omdat een paar mensen denken dat er ergens wat is, maar 0,0 bewijs kunnen vinden moet je dat maar geloven? Dezelfde mensen die religieuzen dom vinden omdat er niks te bewijzen valt. Hypocrisie ten top. Er bestaat geen buitenaards leven anders dan astronauten, bewijs het tegendeel maar. Zo werkt het voor mensen die zich bezighouden met de wetenschap.

Ook al wordt dat ooit nog gedaan.. Die afstanden zijn toch te groot om ook maar iets te doen, maar dat terzijde.

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Op vrijdag 12 april 2013 16:27 schreef joellsoares het volgende:

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Word wakker tacos
Aliens bestaan of je het nou wil of niet
Of je komt het nu te weten, of pas als de overheid tijd vind om het je te vertellen

Maar de overheid gaat je vertellen dat die aliens gevaarlijk zijn, en als je het artikel dat ik postte had gelezen, had je kunnen lezen dat die stelling onzin is. Aliens zouden, als ze bestaan, niet gevaarlijk zijn en al het is al helemaal idioot om er space-based weapons voor te gaan bouwen(waar ze al sinds de jaren 70 mee bezig zijn). Is gewoon weer bangmakerij, om ons geld af te troggelen.

Eerst waren het de Russen(koude oorlog), toen was het drugs(war on drugs), toen waren het de terroristen, dan is het weer Iran. En nu wordt het aliens die ons willen aanvallen

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Op vrijdag 12 april 2013 16:27 schreef joellsoares het volgende:

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Word wakker tacos
Aliens bestaan of je het nou wil of niet
Of je komt het nu te weten, of pas als de overheid tijd vind om het je te vertellen

Oh, welk bewijs heb je om jouw claim te onderbouwen dan? Welke overheid houdt die info achter dan? Welke informatie hebben ze? Er is namelijke verder nog nooit iets gezien door anderen.

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Op vrijdag 12 april 2013 16:29 schreef IkStampOpTacos het volgende:

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Nee, er is tot op heden nog nooit wat gevonden, gezien of gehoord. Niets, niks dat ook maar enigzins wijst op het feit dat er misschien ergens ooit buitenaards leven gevonden wordt. Dus wie is hier nou gek? Omdat een paar mensen denken dat er ergens wat is, maar 0,0 bewijs kunnen vinden moet je dat maar geloven? Dezelfde mensen die religieuzen dom vinden omdat er niks te bewijzen valt. Hypocrisie ten top. Er bestaat geen buitenaards leven anders dan astronauten, bewijs het tegendeel maar. Zo werkt het voor mensen die zich bezighouden met de wetenschap.

Ook al wordt dat ooit nog gedaan.. Die afstanden zijn toch te groot om ook maar iets te doen, maar dat terzijde.

Tegen de tijd dat jij directeur bent van de Institute for Advanced Study kom je maar even terug.

Echt waar...hoe naïef kan een mens zijn door te denken dat hij meer weet dan mensen die op het denkniveau van Einstein zitten en hun hele leven dit onderzocht en ervoor gestudeerd hebben. Ga toch heen jochie

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Op vrijdag 12 april 2013 16:31 schreef IkStampOpTacos het volgende:

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Oh, welk bewijs heb je om jouw claim te onderbouwen dan? Welke overheid houdt die info achter dan? Welke informatie hebben ze? Er is namelijke verder nog nooit iets gezien door anderen.

IkStampOpTacos, de nieuwe Einstein

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Op vrijdag 12 april 2013 16:32 schreef LostInYourEyes het volgende:

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Tegen de tijd dat jij directeur bent van de Institute for Advanced Study kom je maar even terug.

Echt waar...hoe naïef kan een mens zijn door te denken dat hij meer weet dan mensen die op het denkniveau van Einstein zitten en hun hele leven dit onderzocht en ervoor gestudeerd hebben. Ga toch heen jochie

Ik claim niet meer te weten, ik vraag om bewijs op jouw relaas dat het bestaan van aliens een feit is. Dat is niet zo, er is immers geen bewijs, niet gister, niet nu, niet ooit. Leuk dat ze wat theorieën bedenken en op het denkniveau van Einstein zitten, vooralsnog hebben ze nog geen enkel wetenschappelijk bewijs weten aan te dragen die jouw claim van het bestaan van buitenaards leven ook maar enigzins onderbouwt..

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Op vrijdag 12 april 2013 16:36 schreef IkStampOpTacos het volgende:

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Ik claim niet meer te weten, ik vraag om bewijs op jouw relaas dat het bestaan van aliens een feit is. Dat is niet zo, er is immers geen bewijs, niet gister, niet nu, niet ooit. Leuk dat ze wat theorieën bedenken en op het denkniveau van Einstein zitten, vooralsnog hebben ze nog geen enkel wetenschappelijk bewijs weten aan te dragen die jouw claim van het bestaan van buitenaards leven ook maar enigzins onderbouwt..

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Ik heb geen bewijs noch heb ik geclaimd dat ik dat heb. Dat zijn jouw aannames, die je baseert op je eigen hersenkronkels.
Ik zeg ook niet dat het 100% is dat er buitenaards leven is, noch claimt iemand als Dijkgraaf dit.

Het enige wat hij zegt is dat het veel waarschijnlijker is, dat wij NIET de enigen zijn in universum. Daar hoef je geen bewijs voor te hebben want dit is een gedachte, voortkomend uit LOGICA, ken je dat?

Er zijn in het universum zo'n 100 miljard x 100 miljarden sterren te vinden waarvan wij nog geen 1 procent kennen, en jij durft bij hoog en laag te beweren dat er daar NERGENS leven zou of kan zijn?

Kijk dat is het verschil, jij beweert zeker te weten dat er geen ander leven is dan ons in het universum, terwijl 'wij'(zeg maar de verstandige mens) nooit zullen zeggen dat het 100% wel bestaat. Het is gewoon vele malen meer voor de hand liggend dat er naast ons WEL leven bestaat in het universum.

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Op vrijdag 12 april 2013 16:44 schreef LostInYourEyes het volgende:

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Ik heb geen bewijs noch heb ik geclaimd dat ik dat heb. Dat zijn jouw aannames, die je baseert op je eigen hersenkronkels.
Ik zeg ook niet dat het 100% is dat er buitenaards leven is, noch claimt iemand als Dijkgraaf dit.

Het enige wat hij zegt is dat het veel waarschijnlijker is, dat wij NIET de enigen zijn in universum. Daar hoef je geen bewijs voor te hebben want dit is een gedachte, voortkomend uit LOGICA, ken je dat?

Er zijn in het universum zo'n 100 miljard x 100 miljarden sterren te vinden waarvan wij nog geen 1 procent kennen, en jij durft bij hoog en laag te beweren dat er daar NERGENS leven zou of kan zijn?

Kijk dat is het verschil, jij beweert zeker te weten dat er geen ander leven is dan ons in het universum, terwijl 'wij'(zeg maar de verstandige mens) nooit zullen zeggen dat het 100% wel bestaat. Het is gewoon vele malen meer voor de hand liggend dat er naast ons WEL leven bestaat in het universum.

De oerknal door Robbert Dijkgraaf

Robbert Dijkgraaf - Het Allerkleinste (2012) - DWDD

Aannames.

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Op vrijdag 12 april 2013 16:45 schreef IkStampOpTacos het volgende:

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Aannames.

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En die laatste twee filmpjes zijn niet gebaseerd op aannames maar op feiten-edit-

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Op vrijdag 12 april 2013 16:48 schreef LostInYourEyes het volgende:

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-edit, nokken met het gescheld-

En die laatste twee filmpjes zijn niet gebaseerd op aannames maar op feiten-edit-

Ja leuk, maar ik geloof niks zonder bewijs. Dat jij dat wel doet moet jij weten. Zo'n zweverige dude die ook helemaal opgaat in horoscopen, religies en ander grut. Bewijs? Niet nodig man, iemand zegt iets of iets schijnt aannemelijk te zijn, dus is het waar. Dat is jouw redenering en die is fout.

Blijft relevant.

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Op vrijdag 12 april 2013 17:54 schreef IkStampOpTacos het volgende:

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Ja leuk, maar ik geloof niks zonder bewijs. Dat jij dat wel doet moet jij weten. Zo'n zweverige dude die ook helemaal opgaat in horoscopen, religies en ander grut. Bewijs? Niet nodig man, iemand zegt iets of iets schijnt aannemelijk te zijn, dus is het waar. Dat is jouw redenering en die is fout.

Waar zeg ik dat het waar is? -edit-

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Op vrijdag 12 april 2013 18:04 schreef ems. het volgende:
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Blijft relevant.

Ja, dit dus. Als mensen beweren dat er buitenaards leven bestaat ergens in een heelal ver weg, kan ik daar nog inkomen. Maar mensen die er van overtuigd zijn dat overheden shit achterhouden en denken dat er serieus aliens op de aarde zijn geweest...

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Op vrijdag 12 april 2013 18:17 schreef LostInYourEyes het volgende:

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Waar zeg ik dat het waar is? -edit-

Nee je zit te bitchen op een criticaster die kanttekeningen plaatst bij al die mensen die er heilig van overtuigd zijn dat er buitenaards leven is. Als ik dan vraag wat jij vind kom je met obscure personen die ergens een mening hebben die relevant schijnt te zijn en krabbel je steeds verder terug.
"Ik ben ook niet 100% overtuigd" Nee, maar wel steeds de loftrompet steken over hoe aannemelijk dit hele gebeuren wel niet is en hoe erg ik steeds fout zit door daar aan te twijfelen.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Project_Blue_Beam

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Op vrijdag 12 april 2013 16:11 schreef IkStampOpTacos het volgende:

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Rense. Ufo's Denken dat er buitenaards leven is.

Dat laatste is toch zo gek nog niet? Er zijn zoveel sterren, zoveel planeten.. Natuurlijk kan er elder ook leven zijn ontstaan.

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Op vrijdag 12 april 2013 16:10 schreef LostInYourEyes het volgende:
Zoals ik al eerder postte is dit totale quatsch.

http://rense.com/general50/ec.htm

Ik ga het niet weer uitleggen dus lees zelf even.

Wat een onsamenhangend, in slecht Engels geschreven relaas. Duidelijk een fantast.

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Op zaterdag 13 april 2013 14:10 schreef joellsoares het volgende:

Zeta Reticuli Aliens: Robert Lazar 1 of 4

Bob lazar is een ex area 51 medewerker en heeft persoonlijk aan ufo's gewerkt.
Hij is er voor uitgekomen maar zelfs hij zegt: Als ik het over had kunnen doen, had ik mijn mond gehouden alleen om meer te weten te komen over te technologie die werd gebruikt in ufo's.

Maar is het waar wat hij zegt? Ik zou me kunnen voorstellen dat als je uit de school klapt met zulke informatie, je erg diep in de problemen zou kunnen komen..

Er is in ieder geval overduidelijk bewijs dat de Amerikaanse overheid liegt over haar interesse in het UFO fenomeen. De volgende lezing is zeer de moeite waard:

Nog meer documenten:

Twelve Government Documents That Take UFOs Seriously

"Ask people what they think about UFOs, and you're sure to get opinions ranging through all extremes and nuances. Some are so embarrassed by the topic that they simply refuse to consider any evidence whatsoever, like the Pope refusing to look through Galileo's telescope. Others claim not only to be certain that aliens are here, but to have exact, insider knowledge of what it's all about. Between these extremes are endless variations.

It's the same with how we approach the subject. Some people read UFO books for fun, like a mystery novel or scary story. Others are more interested in scientific evidence, such as analysis of photographs, videos, or material samples. Still others prefer more hypothetical roads, like theories about the likelihood of life elsewhere in the universe, or how an advanced propulsion system might work. There are a host of specialized studies, too, ranging from abductions, to crop circles, to animal mutilations, and more. Or, you may focus on the believers and witnesses themselves by studying UFOs as an element of popular culture, or from a psycho-social perspective.

Another approach is historical. There are, after all, government UFO documents that anyone can read. What do they say? Can these documents tell us whether the government or military have ever been interested in this phenomenon? If so, why?

Granted, this approach might not be of the same value as subjecting a piece of flying saucer to laboratory tests. But it would certainly be important if the government had documents showing that UFOs are truly something extraordinary, and even possibly alien. Especially after telling the public the opposite for years. Since belief in UFOs is a near-professional suicide in most respected circles, what would it mean if we discovered that, within the classified world, people have taken it seriously for years?

It just so happens that they have. They do.

http://keyholepublishing.com/Leading-UFO-Documents.html

Hier even 1 van de documenten van de gelinkte website in de OP:

1. The 1947 Twining Memo.

For good reason, this is one of the most important UFO documents we have. On September 23, 1947, right at the beginning of the “modern” UFO era, General Nathan Twining, Head of the U.S. Air Material Command (AMC), wrote a classified letter to Air Force General George Schulgen regarding the “flying discs.” He said the objects were “real and not visionary or fictitious.” They may possibly be natural phenomena, he wrote, such as meteors. But:

“the reported operating characteristics such as extreme rates of climb, maneuverability (particularly in roll), and action which must be considered evasive when sighted ... lend belief to the possibility that some of the objects are controlled either manually, automatically, or remotely.”

Twining listed several common descriptions of UFOs. They generally were silent, had a metallic or light reflecting surface, no trail, were circular or elliptical in shape, and often flat on the bottom. Many descriptions indicated a dome on top. Several reports indicated they flew in formation. Quite specific information, indeed.

UFO skeptics have pointed to Twining’s statement that no wreckage of a flying disc had been recovered. It’s true that he was probably in a good position to know. But what we don’t know is whether Twining would have been able to tell Schulgen about a UFO crash, if indeed such a thing happened. Simply put, if Schulgen lacked a “need to know,” Twining could not have told him.

On the other hand, Twining did state that UFOs were not secret American craft. This came as a surprise to Schulgen, who expected to learn that there was nothing to the affair, that everything was under control. Was Twining hiding the fact that UFO’s were classified technology? It’s a fair question.

With the hindsight of more than fifty years, the answer seems to be no. There is simply no credible evidence that the U.S. had any craft in 1947, experimental or otherwise, that could duplicate the reported maneuvers of flying saucers. Anyway, why would Twining tell Schulgen to keep studying flying saucers if they were simply classified American craft? If there were good reasons for doing so, none have emerged.









General Nathan Twining, author of the September 23, 1947 memo. He later earned a fourth star and became USAF Chief of Staff -- and then Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

Een cover-up? De Britse overheid voerde in ieder geval een beleid van ridiculisatie:

As U.K. Releases UFO Files, Former UFO Project Chief Apologizes For 'Spin And Dirty Tricks' (Exclusive)

As the British National Archives continues to release UFO-related documents, the former Ministry of Defense (MoD) UFO Project chief is openly admitting to being part of what he claims was a U.K. policy of ridiculing UFO reports and the people who reported them. The U.K. made public 34 previously-classified files, totaling about 9,000 pages of documents covering the years 1985 to 2007. For three of those years, 1991 to 1994, Nick Pope was in charge of the official MoD office.

"What's abundantly clear from these files is that, while in public we were desperately pushing the line that this was of no defense interest," Pope told The Huffington Post. "We couldn't say 'There's something in our air space; pilots see them; they're tracked on radar; sometimes we scramble jets to chase these things, but we can't catch them.' This would be an admission that we'd lost control of our own air space, and such a position would be untenable."

"Every time we got a report from a pilot, we were checking the radar tapes. So it was an interesting sleight of hand. We were telling the public we're not interested, this is all nonsense, but in reality, we were desperately chasing our tails and following this up in great detail," he added. One file reveals how officials were afraid to be embarrassed if the public learned that UFO research was hindered by a lack of funds and higher priorities.

Another case, from 2007, took place in the vicinity of the Channel Islands and involved a small commercial aircraft. "The pilot and several of his passengers saw a UFO, which they said was essentially a mile long," Pope recounted. "And several other pilots saw it, but said, 'We're not going to report this.' And here's the great little get-out-of-jail-free-card for the MoD: Just by a matter of maybe a few hundred meters, it turned out that this was in French air space, so MoD was given this little get out to say, 'Well, it happened in French air space, so it's not an issue for us.' Clearly, that was an absolutely outrageous abrogation of responsibility."

A file from 1993 (while Pope was chief of the UFO Project) describes how European Union funds had been wasted on a report that included a theory that aliens had established a base in the asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter. It turns out that Pope may have been directly involved with this case. "I'm a little bit apologetic about this because obviously, when I was in MoD, I had to play this game myself. To really achieve our policy of downplaying the UFO phenomenon, we would use a combination of 'spin and dirty tricks.'

"We used terms like UFO buffs and UFO spotters -- terms that mean these people are nut jobs. In other words, we were implying that this is just a very somewhat quaint hobby that people have as opposed to a serious research interest." But Pope said the ridicule policy went much further than that. "Another trick would be deliberately using phrases like 'little green men.' We were trying to do two things: either to kill any media story on the subject, or if a media story ran, insure that it ran in such a way that it would make the subject seem ridiculous and that it would make people who were interested in this seem ridiculous."

Pope further admits that he may have been the one who drafted actual MoD statements that contributed to the ridicule policy. "If it was my words, then I apologize, I'm very sorry for that. I believe in open government and freedom of information. I believe that the UFO phenomenon does raise important defense, national security and air safety issues, and if I helped kill any initiative on that, I'm deeply sorry."

Some U.K. cases were apparently easier than others in trying to make them seem non-credible. Like the file that describes UFOs reported at the June 2003 Glastonbury Music Festival. "It was very easy to find an incident where something is seen at an event like a rock concert," Pope noted. "You don't even need to say a thing without the public or media perception being that drugs and alcohol might have played a part. It was all part of the way in which we spun the subject, to try and discredit it."

Despite the thousands of pages of documents released -- with one final batch of files yet to come, sometime early next year -- Pope concedes there's still no written evidence confirming alien visits to Earth. "Not just yet -- there's no spaceship-in-a-hangar smoking gun. However, there are plenty of sightings that I think show that we're dealing with more than just aircraft lights and weather balloons." The latest 34 U.K. UFO files can be downloaded free of charge for the next month at the National Archives website.

http://www.huffingtonpost(...)-files_n_927351.html

Oh, een voormalig directeur van de CIA... nee die kunnen we niet serieus nemen

UFO cover-up: Former CIA Director Hillenkoetter 'soberly concerned' about UFOs

Former CIA Director Admiral Roscoe H. Hillenkoetter publicly voiced his concern about UFOs and a major UFO cover-up in the New York Times on February 28, 1960. Hillenkoetter was the first director of the CIA when it was originally created in 1947, serving as its director until 1950.

The highly revealing Times article interestingly was buried on page 30 of the Sunday edition that winter day 50 years ago. You can easily verify this by going to the New York Times archives webpage for the article at this link. Immediately under the title, you will see descriptors for the article: "February 28, 1960, Sunday, Page 30, 418 words."

Also interesting to note is that the title of the article in the archives reads "AIR FORGE ORDER ON 'SAUCERS' CITED." Because of the misspelled word "forge" (should be force), when I first heard about this article several years ago, I was unable to confirm the story. I searched the Times archives using the original title and came up with nothing.

Only later, when I searched again on some of the content in the article, did I eventually find it. I have done hundreds of article searches in the Times archives over the years. Yet this is the only spelling error I've ever come across. Makes you wonder...

The full original article in the Times archive can be read at link above, though a small fee is required. However, you can read the entire article free on the excellent WantToKnow.info website at this link. Here are key excerpts of quotes by CIA Director Hillenkoetter from the article:


It is time for the truth to be brought out in open Congressional hearings. Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about the UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe the unknown flying objects are nonsense. To hide the facts, the Air Force has silenced its personnel.

So the former head of the CIA claims that the U.S. Air Force is silencing its personnel on the topic of UFOs, yet the Times buries the article on page 30 of the Sunday paper. And then no other major media has ever mentioned this fact since. Nor have they given much coverage to hundreds of other top military and government officials who have publicly talked about a major UFO cover-up. For a powerfully revealing summary of the statements of some of these officials, click here.

For a most fascinating documentary on UFOs which includes videotaped coverage of the testimony of some of these top officials, watch Out of the Blue, which was broadcast on the Sci Fi channel. This gripping documentary has by far the best, most reliable evidence ever seen on the topic. It was one of the most popular programs to ever appear on the Sci Fi Channel. Now you can watch part one (45 minutes) here.

http://www.examiner.com/a(...)concerned-about-ufos

UFOs: Generals, Pilots and Government Officials Go On the Record



"At last, a serious and thoughtful book about this controversial subject. Skeptics and true believers will find a treasure trove of insightful and eye opening information. This book is bound to set the gold standard for UFO research."
—Michio Kaku, Ph.D. Author of Physics of the Impossible and host of Sci Fi Science on the Science Channel

“I was astonished by the care and precision of Leslie Kean’s research in this terrific book. Her analysis is carefully reasoned and to the point; her craftsmanship in organization and writing are superb. Her expose' raises important questions: Why does the US government create public distrust by neglecting this important topic? Why do its agencies avoid investigating cases of interference with flight operations and instead issue absurd cover-up stories? This book is ultimately an appeal to all scholars for an "extraordinary investigation of an extraordinary phenomenon.”
—Rudy Schild, Ph.D., Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics

“Like me, Leslie Kean is an agnostic on the issue of UFOs. Her book is a fine piece of journalism - not about beliefs, but about facts. Kean presents the most accurate, most credible reports on UFO's you will ever find. She has fought long and hard to discover the facts and let the chips fall where they may. She may not have the final smoking gun, but I smell the gunpowder.”
—Miles O'Brien, former CNN space/science correspondent

“I find explanations offered by UFO enthusiasts and conspiracy theorists to be implausible, but I also have little patience with "deniers" who ridicule credible reports. Leslie Kean has found a thoughtful path between extreme views, documenting the UFO mystery with intelligence and insight. She makes a strong case for U.S. participation in official, international UFO investigations and for public dissemination of the results. The fascinating first-hand accounts make this a thought-provoking book, even for those of us who don’t know much about UFOs.”
—Neal Lane, Ph.D., Rice University; former Director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy

“If you don't know much about UFOs, you must read this book. If you think that UFO reports are nonsense, this book will disabuse you of that notion. Leslie Kean's UFOs informs readers at every level of knowledge and belief. It could, and should, become the "tipping point" that leads to public acceptance of the reality of UFOs and all of its implications.”
—Don Donderi, Ph.D., Department of Psychology, McGill University (Ret.)

“In an area of study where there aren’t many, this is a serious book. It is credible, clear, and compelling, without any farfetched jumps in logic and assumption. Its credibility begins on the first page with John Podesta and continues with case studies of extraordinary quality to the very end. Leslie Kean not only makes the case for, but calls for, a whole new concrete and realistic perspective on UFOs that has more honesty and integrity than any other that I have read. This is a book for anyone with an open mind.”
—John L. Petersen, Founder & President of The Arlington Institute

“In these pages we are confronted head-on by the UFO phenomenon as revealed firsthand by highly credible government officials and military aviation experts. Their credibility and integrity cannot be questioned, and their firsthand observations cannot be ignored. Leslie Kean provides a challenging analysis and she writes with penetrating depth and insight. The revelations in this book constitute a watershed event in lifting the taboo against rational discourse about this controversial subject.”
—Harold E. Puthoff, Ph.D., Director of The Institute for Advanced Studies at Austin

“When I started reading Leslie Kean’s UFOs, I found it very difficult to stop. This is an unprecedented assessment of what may be the greatest challenge ever presented to mankind. In an outstanding piece of investigative journalism, Kean provides a well-written and convincing appeal for change in dealing with a phenomenon that can no longer be ignored.”
—Jean-Claude Ribes, Ph.D., Paris Observatory (Ret.)

“For anyone who questions why - after more than fifty years of denial, ridicule, and dismissal - many scientists, academics, political figures, and military personnel still insist that the subject of UFOs should be taken seriously, this book provides the answer. Leslie Kean offers compelling documentation that physical objects, with flight characteristics not yet achievable by known technology, are being routinely reported in our skies. They represent a mystery that needs to be solved.”
—Stuart Appelle, Ph.D., Dean of the School of Science and Mathematics, State University of New York, Brockport

"Leslie Kean’s astonishing book is the finest piece of investigative journalism ever written on this subject. She has an incomparable ability to ‘give voice’ to a constituency of exceptionally qualified and unbiased first-hand observers. They are not from the fringe, not groupies, and not delusional. Rather, they are high-level military, intelligence, aerospace, and government officials who speak with authority while providing reports that document actual, physical craft. Kean’s book represents the first important step toward a new U.S. government openness about UFOs. It brings forward a reality otherwise buried for far too long inside official mystery, and elevates the discourse above that of small-minded public discussions."
—Christopher C. Green, MD, Ph.D., Harper University Hospital, Wayne State University School of Medicine 

http://ufosontherecord.com/;

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Op zondag 14 april 2013 00:21 schreef Probably_on_pcp het volgende:
UFOs: Generals, Pilots and Government Officials Go On the Record

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"At last, a serious and thoughtful book about this controversial subject. Skeptics and true believers will find a treasure trove of insightful and eye opening information. This book is bound to set the gold standard for UFO research."
—Michio Kaku, Ph.D. Author of Physics of the Impossible and host of Sci Fi Science on the Science Channel

“I was astonished by the care and precision of Leslie Kean’s research in this terrific book. Her analysis is carefully reasoned and to the point; her craftsmanship in organization and writing are superb. Her expose' raises important questions: Why does the US government create public distrust by neglecting this important topic? Why do its agencies avoid investigating cases of interference with flight operations and instead issue absurd cover-up stories? This book is ultimately an appeal to all scholars for an "extraordinary investigation of an extraordinary phenomenon.”
—Rudy Schild, Ph.D., Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics

“Like me, Leslie Kean is an agnostic on the issue of UFOs. Her book is a fine piece of journalism - not about beliefs, but about facts. Kean presents the most accurate, most credible reports on UFO's you will ever find. She has fought long and hard to discover the facts and let the chips fall where they may. She may not have the final smoking gun, but I smell the gunpowder.”
—Miles O'Brien, former CNN space/science correspondent

“I find explanations offered by UFO enthusiasts and conspiracy theorists to be implausible, but I also have little patience with "deniers" who ridicule credible reports. Leslie Kean has found a thoughtful path between extreme views, documenting the UFO mystery with intelligence and insight. She makes a strong case for U.S. participation in official, international UFO investigations and for public dissemination of the results. The fascinating first-hand accounts make this a thought-provoking book, even for those of us who don’t know much about UFOs.”
—Neal Lane, Ph.D., Rice University; former Director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy

“If you don't know much about UFOs, you must read this book. If you think that UFO reports are nonsense, this book will disabuse you of that notion. Leslie Kean's UFOs informs readers at every level of knowledge and belief. It could, and should, become the "tipping point" that leads to public acceptance of the reality of UFOs and all of its implications.”
—Don Donderi, Ph.D., Department of Psychology, McGill University (Ret.)

“In an area of study where there aren’t many, this is a serious book. It is credible, clear, and compelling, without any farfetched jumps in logic and assumption. Its credibility begins on the first page with John Podesta and continues with case studies of extraordinary quality to the very end. Leslie Kean not only makes the case for, but calls for, a whole new concrete and realistic perspective on UFOs that has more honesty and integrity than any other that I have read. This is a book for anyone with an open mind.”
—John L. Petersen, Founder & President of The Arlington Institute

“In these pages we are confronted head-on by the UFO phenomenon as revealed firsthand by highly credible government officials and military aviation experts. Their credibility and integrity cannot be questioned, and their firsthand observations cannot be ignored. Leslie Kean provides a challenging analysis and she writes with penetrating depth and insight. The revelations in this book constitute a watershed event in lifting the taboo against rational discourse about this controversial subject.”
—Harold E. Puthoff, Ph.D., Director of The Institute for Advanced Studies at Austin

“When I started reading Leslie Kean’s UFOs, I found it very difficult to stop. This is an unprecedented assessment of what may be the greatest challenge ever presented to mankind. In an outstanding piece of investigative journalism, Kean provides a well-written and convincing appeal for change in dealing with a phenomenon that can no longer be ignored.”
—Jean-Claude Ribes, Ph.D., Paris Observatory (Ret.)

“For anyone who questions why - after more than fifty years of denial, ridicule, and dismissal - many scientists, academics, political figures, and military personnel still insist that the subject of UFOs should be taken seriously, this book provides the answer. Leslie Kean offers compelling documentation that physical objects, with flight characteristics not yet achievable by known technology, are being routinely reported in our skies. They represent a mystery that needs to be solved.”
—Stuart Appelle, Ph.D., Dean of the School of Science and Mathematics, State University of New York, Brockport

"Leslie Kean’s astonishing book is the finest piece of investigative journalism ever written on this subject. She has an incomparable ability to ‘give voice’ to a constituency of exceptionally qualified and unbiased first-hand observers. They are not from the fringe, not groupies, and not delusional. Rather, they are high-level military, intelligence, aerospace, and government officials who speak with authority while providing reports that document actual, physical craft. Kean’s book represents the first important step toward a new U.S. government openness about UFOs. It brings forward a reality otherwise buried for far too long inside official mystery, and elevates the discourse above that of small-minded public discussions."
—Christopher C. Green, MD, Ph.D., Harper University Hospital, Wayne State University School of Medicine 

http://ufosontherecord.com/;

Gerenommeerd en alom gerespecteerd wetenschapper Michio Kaku zegt over de verklaringen van de vele geloofwaardige getuigen:

"This is as close to the smoking gun that you are going to get."

Is er keihard bewijs? Nee. Is er meer dan genoeg bewijs om het UFO fenomeen serieus te nemen? Ja.

Ik heb op mijn website het beste materiaal proberen te verzamelen:

http://aliens-ufos.jouwweb.nl/

Nog wat leuke foto's:

Deze onderstaande foto wordt getoond in de documentaire over Hessdalen (zie het kopje "Belangrijke Cases") en wordt daarin besproken door de wetenschappers die de foto hebben gemaakt. De foto hieronder is gemaakt met een sluitertijd van 30 seconden. In de 30 seconden zie je de lichten op een onnatuurlijke manier door de lucht bewegen. Het licht is tegelijkertijd geanalyseerd en op de foto zie je de spectraalanalyse staan. Zoals je ziet is deze erg netjes, er lopen geen kleuren in elkaar over.

Dit betekent dat de lichten niet het gevolg kunnen zijn van gasverbranding. De wetenschappers denken dat de lichten een plasma zijn en het interessante daaraan, is dat het bijeen moet worden gehouden door een sterk magnetisch veld. Ook zijn de lichten voor langere periodes waargenomen op radar dus de wetenschappers concluderen dat het solide objecten zijn. Koppel daaraan nog de sightings van duidelijke vliegende schotels in de decennia voor deze foto, door geloofwaardige getuigen die wonen in Hessdalen en je hebt een erg intrigerende foto te pakken in mijn ogen:



The photo below (cropped and enlarged) was taken by a Costa Rican government mapping plane during an aerial mapping mission. This UFO photograph is unique for several reasons. 1) The photograph was taken by a high-quality, professional camera. 2) The unidentified object is plainly visible against the uniformly dark background of the lake and appears in sharp focus. 3) The camera was aimed downward and the plane was flying at a known, fixed altitude (10,000 feet), which makes it easy to calculate a maximum size for the object (683 feet).

The plane carried a crew of four; a specialist in aerial photography, a geographer, a topographer, and the pilot. No member of the crew stated that they saw anything unusual during the routine flight.

Much analysis has been undertaken using the original negative, most notably by Dr. Richard F. Haines and Dr. Jacques F. Vallee. It seems safe to assume that it is not a double-exposure or the result of manipulation of the negative. All indications are that this is a photo of a large three-dimensional disk , or shallow cone, [hovering?] above, and possibly partially submerged in Lago de Cote.

There were apparently no witnesses to the disk's presence at the time of the photograph, but other incidents at that location had been reported by local farmers, involving strange, artificial objects moving around the surface or just below the surface of the lake.



http://www.ufoevidence.or(...)dphotos/Photo303.htm?

Het onderzoek dat gedaan is naar aanleiding van deze foto is hier te vinden in de vorm van PDF bestanden:

http://www.scientificexploration.org/journal/jse_03_2_haines.pdf?

http://www.scientificexploration.org/journal/jse_04_1_haines.pdf?

February, 2003 - Weyauwega, Wisconsin, USA (Waupaca County)







December 8th, 1992 - Puebla, Mexico





In Puebla, Mexico on December 8th, 1992 at midday, a passenger in a vehicle, who prefers to remain anonymous, observed and photographed a strange unidentified flying object outside the passenger's window. This incident occurred during the height of the Mexican UFO wave of 1992. Note the very close approach of the craft in this case.

Source / Credit: UFOs at Close Sight (Patrick Gross) Original source webpage / article

http://www.ufoevidence.or(...)s/Photo57.htm;

January 31, 2008 - Indiana, USA



Report and photographs submitted to MUFON (Mutual UFO Network - mufon.com)

September 29, 2001 - Hungary



BUDAPEST, Hungary - A military pilot recorded a spectacular video of a silver disk object on September 29, 2001. The craft was flying to his left side and then moved very fast past him in the clouds as can be seen in the video.

"I was on a flight over Budapest, Hungary," said the pilot, who has requested that his name be withheld until the official inquiry by the Hungarian Ministry of Defence is complete.

"To my left I saw a bright metal aircraft that was the shape of a perfect disk. I was careful to film the object, not to try and chase it since it I could not match its speed. As I was flying a reconnaisance aircraft, I got the idea to film it and used our equipment."

Officials at the Ministry of Defence would not answer questions about the video when asked and warned that officially they have no comment. Despite the denial, when informed of the pilot's name, they did acknowledge that the he was a real air force pilot and that it was true that he flew photo reconnaisance airplanes.

The pilot considers the video he made to be his property and not the Hungarian governments as he was flying the plane while not on duty and was transporting it as a favor to save the government money. He has now hired an attorney and wants the video to be released to the public. He hopes the release of a few frames will make this happen.

ok, dan weet de ganse wereld straks dat er loonies rondlopen die een menselijke foetus voor een alien aanzien (want dat is toch wel 'het' topproduct van de film als we de trailer mogen geloven) En dan?

Sorry maar die "Alien" in Sirius is echt een misser.

Bovenstaande zit er vermoedelijk niet eens in PoP, tijd voor je eigen docu

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Op vrijdag 12 april 2013 16:32 schreef SEMTEX het volgende:
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Die aangebakken kernexplosie is zelf een Alien.

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