[Centraal] MMA topic #210 GSP vs DIAZ

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Op zondag 17 maart 2013 16:45 schreef Geo4kant het volgende:
Ook daarom denk ik dat hij er snel mee kapt. Hij zal zich druk gaan maken om zijn gezondheid dit dat..

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Op zondag 17 maart 2013 16:48 schreef LitmanenAFCA het volgende:

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Die gaat er echt nog lang niet meer kappen hoor die gaat de eerst volgende 3 jaar nog door.

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Op zondag 17 maart 2013 18:12 schreef BankAardappel het volgende:

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Z'n voormalige manager heeft gezegd dat hij wilde retiren na 3 gevechten. Diaz, Hendricks, en Anderson Silva.

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StefanStruve twitterde op zondag 17-03-2013 om 20:42:35 It feels gooooooooood to be able to chew again! Feeling great again folks and very motivated for my next fight! Back 2 the gym next week! reageer retweet

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Op zondag 17 maart 2013 21:37 schreef roepdeman het volgende:
Diaz is een absolute baas. Die persco was weer geweldig! Hoe kan hij ooit stoppen? Hoe kunnen we zonder hem nog uitkijken naar MMA? Nick Diaz is de belichaming van de sport in het geheel. Nick Diaz, The People's Champ, The Greatest Of All Time, 209, 420, H²0, CO² Forever!

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Op zondag 17 maart 2013 21:42 schreef Geo4kant het volgende:

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Asjeblieft zeg

Elke kopie van Diaz die jij op straat tegen komt kots je uit en wil je niet mee geasocieerd worden.

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Op zondag 17 maart 2013 21:45 schreef Fenomeno het volgende:

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Water en koolstofdioxide?

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Op zondag 17 maart 2013 21:51 schreef Geo4kant het volgende:
Nick zit kei hard aan de EPO, cardio for days.. waarom denk je dat hij zo graag doet fietsen? Zijn hart slaat op hol..

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Op zondag 17 maart 2013 21:35 schreef THEFXR het volgende:

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StefanStruve twitterde op zondag 17-03-2013 om 20:42:35 It feels gooooooooood to be able to chew again! Feeling great again folks and very motivated for my next fight! Back 2 the gym next week! reageer retweet

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Op zondag 17 maart 2013 22:27 schreef Disorder het volgende:

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Stop alsjeblieft Struve. Dit is niet goed voor je gezondheid.

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Bas Ruten on Condit/Hendricks decision and GSP/DIAZ
***Long Read***

People asked me what I thought about the Condit vs Hendricks decision?
Here goes:
CONDIT VS HENDRICKS

Listen, I love Hendricks and Condit, but I just thought that Condit should have won since he worked the whole time from the bottom. I re-watched the fight again
Hendricks is tricky with his power shots, he acts like he goes for a takedown and then swings that big left hand. 90% of the punches he throws is his left I would say.

Round 1
On the feet Carlos is pressing forward, Hendricks connects with some power shots and takes him down and Condit lands a nice elbow from the bottom, he worked from the bottom with the first takedown much more then Hendricks, he’s kicking the legs as well. 2nd takedown he couldn’t do anything else then controlling Condit. Power strikes from Hendricks, some connect, very powerful guy, Carlos is getting HIS back now while standing, breaks free and drops a left front kick to the face of Hendricks. Hendricks right away connects with a big shot as well and takes him down while the bell rings

Round two
Hendricks has some powers shots but Condit lands a knee as well, another takedown, in this takedown not one punch thrown. Get’s up Condit attacks, Hendricks throws shots again and lands a few, another takedown, Condit is back up again, not one punch thrown on the ground. Two knees from Condit, to body and head, not connecting hard but he’s working, liver shot right high kick and another good livershot, a nice “one/two” throws a flying knee, Hendricks times perfectly and takes him down. On the ground not one significant strike is thrown, some body shots (3 OR SO) like “body/body head” power), meaning , more “tapping”, Carlos escapes really nice and right away attacks again, front kick to the face again, and another takedown from Hendricks. Not one strike thrown from Hendricks on ground, Condit back up and right away attacks again.
End round, Hendricks is hurt we find out, probably broke his hands

Round 3
Condit attacks again, high kick on defense, but he’s throwing, Johny attacks as well, low kick plus “left hook right straight “attack from Condit. Hendricks another takedown, elbow from the bottom from Condit, some body shots by Hendricks, another short “back elbow” from Condit that connects. Condit is constantly fighting from the back and connecting, hooks, elbows to top of the head, looking for kimura or kimura sweep (I call it that), getting back up right away attacks again, “cross liver cross”, and double uppercut from Hendricks, very nice. Double left hook right high kick from Condit, another takedown, Condit is doing all the work on the ground, get back up, Condit attacks again, inside low kick and big right hand that connects hard (probably best punch landed on Hendricks), throwing a head kick. Hendricks takes him down again, back to the feet and again Condit attacks right away and connects with punches plus elbows, another takedown attempt by Hendricks but Condit spins out really nice and attacks again right away till the bell

In round one especially Hendricks landed more power shots, but the big question is, does a takedown count when you can’t do anything with it other then taking him to the ground since you are getting hit and attacked more on the feet? Carlos was also never dazed.

When you take somebody down and right away lay heavy hands on him or go for submissions, then YES, the takedowns should count, but when you can’t do anything with it and the other one works more, I simply think it should go to the guy who works harder there? People will say now, “Yeah but he controlled where the fight went”, maybe, but he did that because on the feet Carlos was all over the place and was getting the better of him, why else take him down?

When you are dominating on the feet and THEN take somebody down and work, THAT I think is “control where the fight goes”.

I am a huge Hendricks fan, and I don’t like to write like this, but this is just what I believe and should be fair to Condit.

Hendricks should really start focussing on implementing his right hand more, just for two months tie your left hand to the face and let him only throw "right's" at the end of his workout on the bag for 3 five minute rounds or maybe even before he works out so that he automatically uses it more in training. He's too much focused on landing his left, he should use the right more to set it up, plus then when his hand gets hurt (Like what happened yesterday), he has that one as a back up

Oh, and on Inside MMA I said: “Marquardt’s striking is getting good but he shouldn’t stand with Ellenberger because he has that “real KO power”.

And about the GSP fight I said “George should simply keep his left hand in front of his face to stop the jabs from Diaz, OR should throw jabs himself since he has a longer reach?!
(Yeah, I couldn’t believe that either when I read that, I thought Diaz would have the longer reach). And GSP did it, out “jabbed” him.
And like in the Hendricks fight, people nowadays know that when somebody has your back, wether it's standing or on the ground (all 4's) and you put one of your legs in between his legs, they will go for a knee bar. (You should check out my "upside down knee bar" that I did to Maurice Smith, that was funny because it was done "standing" and he was holding the ropes, so I was upside down)

I don't believe somebody "told" GSP that Diaz was gonna do this, again, Condit tried the same with Hendricks and he knew as well, then again, Marc Laimon was making sure he and the whole crowd knew, haha.

And Joe was right about Laimon, he was my sparring partner for the ground when I was still training and teaching at the Beverly Hills JJ club, he has a REALLY good ground game and is a really great coach as well!

Godspeed!

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Op maandag 18 maart 2013 08:37 schreef LitmanenAFCA het volgende:
Ik vind dat Bas wel een goed punt heeft

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Op maandag 18 maart 2013 09:33 schreef LitmanenAFCA het volgende:
Ik heb ook geen behoefte aan die superfight tussen GSP en Silva dat gaan dan weer 5 rondes human blanket worden van GSP.

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Op maandag 18 maart 2013 09:39 schreef LitmanenAFCA het volgende:
Als Sonnen Silva al gemakkelijk op de grond kreeg in Silva vs Sonnen 1 dan gaat GSP dit al helemaal lukken en GSP doet geen damage itt Sonnen.

Silva is met afstand de betere vechter van de twee maar dat wil tegenwoordig niet meer zoveel zeggen helaas.

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Op maandag 18 maart 2013 09:48 schreef LitmanenAFCA het volgende:
GSP is net zo sterk als Sonnen in deze shape en dan is het nog altijd techniek boven strenght