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Ik zeg ook nergens dat ze dom zijn, maar dit schilderen kunnen de olifanten vooralquote:Op woensdag 29 augustus 2012 09:42 schreef polderturk het volgende:
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Geef een hond een kwast in zijn bek. Hij zal nooit van zijn leven zo een schilderij kunnen maken. Het is bewezen dat olifanten heel intelligente dieren zijn.
omdat ze zo'n goed geheugen hebben. Olifanten kunnen erg goed onthouden en
dat is geen fabeltje.
Het geheugen van een olifant is zelfs uitzonderlijk goed.
Ook als iets jaren geleden gebeurde, weten ze dat nog heel goed.
Zo onthouden ze welke vruchten, bomen, planten en kruiden eetbaar zijn en welke niet.
En ook het terrein waar ze leven, kennen ze op hun duimpje.
Maar daarom is het nog niet leuk om een olifant,vaak onder gruwelijke dwang, kunstjes
te leren,. Nu weet ik niet hoe ze zo'n olifant trainen om een schilderijtje dag in dag uit
te laten maken, maar ik weet wel hoe ze olifanten vangen en hoe ze hem circus kunstjes
leren te vertonen.
Hopelijk gaat dit trainen om te schilderen d.m.v. een beloningssysteem, maar dat weet ik
niet, als jij iets kunt vinden op internet hoe ze dat doen, dan zou ik dat graag willen zien
want ik weet het écht niet.
Hoe ze een olifant circus kunstjes aanleren dát weet ik wel en dat is verre van ''leuk''.
Als olifanten zo slim zijn, waarom hebben ze dan nooit iets uitgevonden. Dat hebben mensen allemaal gedaan.
Ah... even googelen en je weet het antwoord.
http://www.dailymail.co.u(...)orris-set-truth.html
As part of the elephant show, I was able to watch three young female elephants painting pictures of
botanical subjects and see for myself exactly how it was done.
So are these endearing mammals truly artistic?
The answer, as politicians are fond of saying, is yes and no.
Let me describe exactly what happens.
A painting session begins with three heavy easels being wheeled into position.
On each easel a large piece of white card (30in x 20in) has been fixed underneath a strong wooden
frame. Each elephant is positioned in front of her easel and is given a brush loaded with paint by her
mahout. He pushes the brush gently into the end of her trunk.
The man then stands to one side of his animal's neck and watches intently as the brush starts to make
lines on the card. Then the empty brush is replaced by another loaded one, and the painting continues
until the picture is complete.
The elephant then turns towards its audience, bows deeply and is rewarded with bananas.
The paintings are then removed from their frames and offered for sale.
They are quickly snapped up by people who have been astonished by what they have just witnessed.
To most of the members of the audience, what they have seen appears to be almost miraculous.
Elephants must surely be almost human in intelligence if they can paint pictures of flowers and trees in
this way.
What the audience overlooks are the actions of the mahouts as their animals are at work.
This oversight is understandable because it is difficult to drag your eyes away from the brushes that
are making the lines and spots.
However, if you do so, you will notice that, with each mark, the mahout tugs at his elephant's ear.
He nudges it up and down to get the animal to make a vertical line, or pulls it sideways to get a
horizontal one. To encourage spots and blobs he tugs the ear forward, towards the canvas.
So, very sadly, the design the elephant is making is not hers but his.
There is no elephantine invention, no creativity, just slavish copying
Investigating further, after the show is over, it emerges that each of the socalled artistic animals
always produces exactly the same image, time after time, day after day, and week after week.
Mook always paints a bunch of flowers, Christmas always does a tree, and Pimtong a climbing
plant. Each elephant works to a set routine, guided by her master.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.u(...)h.html#ixzz24vIRz3VC
http://www.dailymail.co.u(...)orris-set-truth.html
As part of the elephant show, I was able to watch three young female elephants painting pictures of
botanical subjects and see for myself exactly how it was done.
So are these endearing mammals truly artistic?
The answer, as politicians are fond of saying, is yes and no.
Let me describe exactly what happens.
A painting session begins with three heavy easels being wheeled into position.
On each easel a large piece of white card (30in x 20in) has been fixed underneath a strong wooden
frame. Each elephant is positioned in front of her easel and is given a brush loaded with paint by her
mahout. He pushes the brush gently into the end of her trunk.
The man then stands to one side of his animal's neck and watches intently as the brush starts to make
lines on the card. Then the empty brush is replaced by another loaded one, and the painting continues
until the picture is complete.
The elephant then turns towards its audience, bows deeply and is rewarded with bananas.
The paintings are then removed from their frames and offered for sale.
They are quickly snapped up by people who have been astonished by what they have just witnessed.
To most of the members of the audience, what they have seen appears to be almost miraculous.
Elephants must surely be almost human in intelligence if they can paint pictures of flowers and trees in
this way.
What the audience overlooks are the actions of the mahouts as their animals are at work.
This oversight is understandable because it is difficult to drag your eyes away from the brushes that
are making the lines and spots.
However, if you do so, you will notice that, with each mark, the mahout tugs at his elephant's ear.
He nudges it up and down to get the animal to make a vertical line, or pulls it sideways to get a
horizontal one. To encourage spots and blobs he tugs the ear forward, towards the canvas.
So, very sadly, the design the elephant is making is not hers but his.
There is no elephantine invention, no creativity, just slavish copying
Investigating further, after the show is over, it emerges that each of the socalled artistic animals
always produces exactly the same image, time after time, day after day, and week after week.
Mook always paints a bunch of flowers, Christmas always does a tree, and Pimtong a climbing
plant. Each elephant works to a set routine, guided by her master.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.u(...)h.html#ixzz24vIRz3VC
Mensen zijn zo ongeveer de domste zoogdieren ooit, maar dit terzijdequote:Op woensdag 29 augustus 2012 10:43 schreef VMSDKR het volgende:
Als olifanten zo slim zijn, waarom hebben ze dan nooit iets uitgevonden. Dat hebben mensen allemaal gedaan.
gofferquote:Op zondag 26 augustus 2012 20:04 schreef FANNvanhetlaatsteuur het volgende:
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Dat gaat niet zonder hulp, maar de reacties waren niet overweldigend ...
Circussen geen vergunning meer nodig voor wilde dieren
we zijn dan wel weer erg zelfbewustquote:
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Mensen zijn zo ongeveer de domste zoogdieren ooit, maar dit terzijde
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