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Als autist weet ik niet hoe ik hier over moet denken. Enerzijds moet je mensen helpen maar aan de andere kant is er godsdienstvrijheid.quote:Alzheimer's sufferer Dorothy Griffiths, 87, was found sitting down after staff heard a bang and a carer went to the office for help to lift her.
But agency nurse Abdul Bhutto, who was in charge, said they would have to wait.
Carer Zoe Shaw told the Sheffield hearing: "It took between five and ten minutes because he was praying upstairs in the office on his prayer mat. A staff member told me we had to wait for him to finish."
An ambulance was not called for nearly four hours after Mrs Griffiths fell from bed and cut her head and suffered a gash to her hip at the privately-run Valley Park Nursing Home in Wombwell, near Barnsley.
She died later in hospital. Mr Bhutto failed to appear at the inquest and a summons had to be issued for him to attend the resumed hearing later in the year.
Assistant deputy coroner Donald Coutts-Wood said he had contacted him during a recess and he denied being the duty nurse that night and said he had been there on a course.
Mrs Griffiths, the widow of former Barnsley footballer Steve Griffiths, who used to live in Wombwell, had been a resident at the home since 2009 and died last November.
She was put to bed at 9.45pm on October 24 and checked checked every two hours, according to Zoe Shaw.
The old lady was using the toilet at 4am and Mrs Shaw went to an office to fill in paperwork.
She said Mrs Griffiths was not prone to falls and was not considered "at risk".
She and another carer found her on the floor and Mrs Shaw went to get help from Mr Bhutto. He was the most senior nurse on night duty at the home, run by the Mimosa Healthcare Group, because the senior carer was unable to work havning been on duty for six of the previous seven nights.
When Mr Bhutto arrived he checked the pensioner's limbs, took her blood presssure and pulse while she was still on the floor and told the carers to put her back into bed.
But instead Mrs Shaw, worried that she might fall again, washed the old lady, dressed her and took her to the office while she carried on filling forms.
At about 5.45am she took her to the lounge and said she was "talking fine" and walking around.
But at breakfast-time when the residents were being offered a cup of tea Mrs Griffiths was found unresponsive and an ambulance was called at about 7.30am.
Mrs Shaw, who broke down and wept in the witness box, said she would have called an ambulance immediately after the fall but had only since discovered that staff could override a nurses' decision.
Speaking after the inquest was adjourned Dorothy's daughter Jean David, 61, said: "We are quite upset that Mr Bhutto hadn't appeared and we are having to come here again particularly as my brother is having to come up from Staffordshire. We would like it to have been done and dusted but we can't leave it without his evidence."
Bron: http://www.telegraph.co.u(...)-he-was-praying.html
[ Bericht 39% gewijzigd door Dagonet op 24-03-2012 15:50:33 ]
Belachelijk
Heddegijdagezeedgehadjamindedawerkelukwoarhoedoedegijdahoedoedegijdahoeheddegijdagedoan.
Don't you ever get stuck in the sky when you're high?
Don't you ever get stuck in the sky when you're high?
Nou ja, als verpleger is het wel je werk natuurlijk.quote:Op zaterdag 24 maart 2012 14:58 schreef kingtoppie het volgende:
Ja, godsdienstvrijheid is een grondwet, mensen helpen niet.
Als autist of atheïst?quote:Op zaterdag 24 maart 2012 14:56 schreef FiatCurrency het volgende:
Als autist weet ik niet hoe ik hier over moet denken. Enerzijds moet je mensen helpen maar aan de andere kant is er godsdienstvrijheid.
In the old days getting stoned meant getting pelted to death with rocks...
Ik vind de titel wel een beetje suggestief. Is echt onomstotelijk bewezen dat die vrouw overleden is doordat die verpleger een kwartier te laat kwam?
Die gast heeft het dus niet begrepen.quote:
Opschudding in Engeland. De 87-jarige Dorothy Griffiths werd verpleegd in een verpleeghuis, onder meer vanwege verregaande Alzheimer. Toen zij uit bed viel holde de zaalzuster naar de leiding van de verpleegafdeling, dat was die dag Abdul Bhutto, om hulp. Om de vrouw weer in bed te tillen, en ook om te kijken wat er was. Ze kwam ongelegen. Bhutto had net zijn matje richting Mekka gerold en ging bidden. Hij weigerde dat uit te stellen. Toen hij een kwartier later was uitgebeden was Dorothy naar haar Heer.
Bron: Daily Telegraph
http://www.welingelichtek(...)ger-moet-bidden.html
Als autist weet ik niet hoe ik hier over moet denken. Enerzijds moet je mensen helpen maar aan de andere kant is er godsdienstvrijheid.
I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.
Ik snap eigenlijk ook niet wat dit ineens met autisten te maken heeft. 
Heddegijdagezeedgehadjamindedawerkelukwoarhoedoedegijdahoedoedegijdahoeheddegijdagedoan.
Don't you ever get stuck in the sky when you're high?
Don't you ever get stuck in the sky when you're high?
Een autist had die vrouw waarschijnlijk ook niet geholpen.
I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.
Er is vrijheid van godsdienst, maar als arts hoor je dat soort achterlijke principes gewoon aan de kant te zetten. Het is je beroep en taak om altijd klaar te staan, niet alleen wanneer het jou uitkomt.
Ik zou 't juist knap vinden als je wel weet wat normale mensen denken..quote:
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Nee, ik ben een autist. Ik weet niet wat normale mensen denken.
I'm not good with advice.. Can i interest you in a sarcastic comment?
? Nu in het NL ajbquote:
Als dit is wat Allah wil verdient hij het niet om tot gebeden te worden
"Twee dingen zijn oneindig: het heelal en de menselijke domheid. Van het heelal weet ik het alleen nog niet zeker,”
― Albert Einstein
― Albert Einstein
Maar de kans op overleven is er ook niet groter op geworden.quote:Op zaterdag 24 maart 2012 15:02 schreef Devv het volgende:
Ik vind de titel wel een beetje suggestief. Is echt onomstotelijk bewezen dat die vrouw overleden is doordat die verpleger een kwartier te laat kwam?
Ben jij ook een autist?quote:
[..]
Ik zou 't juist knap vinden als je wel weet wat normale mensen denken..
Dit is onexcuusbaar. Ontslag geven, vergunning afpakken, en fikse boete geven.
"Twee dingen zijn oneindig: het heelal en de menselijke domheid. Van het heelal weet ik het alleen nog niet zeker,”
― Albert Einstein
― Albert Einstein
Dit is vreemd. DIe zuster holt naar iemand en pas een kwartier later merkt men dat die vrouw is overleden? Ging die zuster niet terug naar die vrouw dan?quote:
. Toen zij uit bed viel holde de zaalzuster naar de leiding van de verpleegafdeling, dat was die dag Abdul Bhutto, om hulp. Om de vrouw weer in bed te tillen, en ook om te kijken wat er was.
I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.
Lees de bron eens.
Die gast is alsnog gekomen en die vrouw is later overleden. Of had hij kunnen voorkomen dat ze niet was gevallen?
Lulwutquote:Alzheimer's sufferer Dorothy Griffiths, 87, was found sitting down after staff heard a bang and a carer went to the office for help to lift her.
But agency nurse Abdul Bhutto, who was in charge, said they would have to wait.
Carer Zoe Shaw told the Sheffield hearing: "It took between five and ten minutes because he was praying upstairs in the office on his prayer mat. A staff member told me we had to wait for him to finish."
An ambulance was not called for nearly four hours after Mrs Griffiths fell from bed and cut her head and suffered a gash to her hip at the privately-run Valley Park Nursing Home in Wombwell, near Barnsley.
She died later in hospital. Mr Bhutto failed to appear at the inquest and a summons had to be issued for him to attend the resumed hearing later in the year.
Assistant deputy coroner Donald Coutts-Wood said he had contacted him during a recess and he denied being the duty nurse that night and said he had been there on a course.
Mrs Griffiths, the widow of former Barnsley footballer Steve Griffiths, who used to live in Wombwell, had been a resident at the home since 2009 and died last November.
She was put to bed at 9.45pm on October 24 and checked checked every two hours, according to Zoe Shaw.
The old lady was using the toilet at 4am and Mrs Shaw went to an office to fill in paperwork.
She said Mrs Griffiths was not prone to falls and was not considered "at risk".
She and another carer found her on the floor and Mrs Shaw went to get help from Mr Bhutto. He was the most senior nurse on night duty at the home, run by the Mimosa Healthcare Group, because the senior carer was unable to work havning been on duty for six of the previous seven nights.
When Mr Bhutto arrived he checked the pensioner's limbs, took her blood presssure and pulse while she was still on the floor and told the carers to put her back into bed.
But instead Mrs Shaw, worried that she might fall again, washed the old lady, dressed her and took her to the office while she carried on filling forms.
At about 5.45am she took her to the lounge and said she was "talking fine" and walking around.
But at breakfast-time when the residents were being offered a cup of tea Mrs Griffiths was found unresponsive and an ambulance was called at about 7.30am.
Mrs Shaw, who broke down and wept in the witness box, said she would have called an ambulance immediately after the fall but had only since discovered that staff could override a nurses' decision.
Speaking after the inquest was adjourned Dorothy's daughter Jean David, 61, said: "We are quite upset that Mr Bhutto hadn't appeared and we are having to come here again particularly as my brother is having to come up from Staffordshire. We would like it to have been done and dusted but we can't leave it without his evidence."
Bron: http://www.telegraph.co.u(...)-he-was-praying.html
Die gast is alsnog gekomen en die vrouw is later overleden. Of had hij kunnen voorkomen dat ze niet was gevallen?
Waarom zou ze niet een andere verpleg(er)/(ster) opzoeken ? 
Of was hij de enige andere? wat overigens wel raar zou zijn voor een ziekenhuis.
Verhaalt rammelt ergens.
Of was hij de enige andere? wat overigens wel raar zou zijn voor een ziekenhuis.Verhaalt rammelt ergens.
"Twee dingen zijn oneindig: het heelal en de menselijke domheid. Van het heelal weet ik het alleen nog niet zeker,”
― Albert Einstein
― Albert Einstein
Kan je niet lezen ofzo?quote:
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Heddegijdagezeedgehadjamindedawerkelukwoarhoedoedegijdahoedoedegijdahoeheddegijdagedoan.
Don't you ever get stuck in the sky when you're high?
Don't you ever get stuck in the sky when you're high?
Vrouw valt
Bhutto komt 10 minuten later
Bhutto checkt de vrouw, controleert hartslag en alles
Bhutto zegt stop die vrouw weer in in Bed. Shaw doet dat NIET. Hij neemt haar mee
Shaw doet zijn werk verder terwijl de vrouw bij haar is.
Vrouw overlijdt 12 uur na het incident
Bhutto komt 10 minuten later
Bhutto checkt de vrouw, controleert hartslag en alles
Bhutto zegt stop die vrouw weer in in Bed. Shaw doet dat NIET. Hij neemt haar mee
Shaw doet zijn werk verder terwijl de vrouw bij haar is.
Vrouw overlijdt 12 uur na het incident
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