Oorlog in Libië #97. Meer bescherming gewenst.

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Op donderdag 7 april 2011 00:17 schreef svann het volgende:

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Vloek niet!
Ik luisterde vaak naar die zender die uitzond vanaf de MEBO II.
Dat was Radio Noordzee, de concurrent van Veronica.

Gaaf dat die nu door Benghazi Free Radio wordt gebruikt!

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In Libië duurt de impasse voort. De opstandelingen weten de steden in oosten stevig in handen, maar doorstoten naar het westen richting de hoofdstad Tripoli lijkt er voorlopig niet in te zitten. Verslaggever Lex Runderkamp in het oosten van Libië.

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Oil Sales
The rebels were preparing to make their first international oil sale as the tanker Equator, which can carry 1 million barrels, departed the Marsa al Hariga terminal near the port of Tobruk in rebel-held eastern Libya, according to ship-tracking data compiled by Bloomberg.

The Equator arrived April 5 and is now signaling Singapore as its destination, the data show. The cargo may bring more than $100 million for the rebels. The rebels' national council said April 1 that it had reached a deal to have Qatar help market Libyan oil, with proceeds going toward food, fuel, medicine and other items.

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"The vessel loaded, the intended destination is Singapore," a shipping source said. "It will probably end up in China."

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Op donderdag 7 april 2011 08:17 schreef DeRakker. het volgende:
http://www.dumpert.nl/med(...)n_brega_vandaag.html

Warchild kom er maar in.

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Op donderdag 7 april 2011 12:22 schreef Ulpianus het volgende:
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Misurata.

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Freedom_7uriyah: Alarabiya:Muhamed shibani: Tripoli, G's men drove round with rev flags.When enough youth joined them they shot at them. 80 dead. 250 injured
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haitm9b: @ceoDanya G forces did a trap to libyan youth in tripoli making dem believe tht ther r protest so they joined them and then 80 got killed
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Tripoli, Libya (CNN) -- Eman al-Obeidy, the woman who says forces loyal to Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi raped her, is grateful for support she has received, said CNN's Nic Robertson, who met briefly with her Wednesday.

"She is a very strong lady who told me to thank all (the) people who have stopped her case from disappearing," Robertson said. Al-Obeidy said she had a message for humanitarian organizations: They should come to Tripoli and "see how life is here," he said.

She said she is still recovering physically from the alleged assault and displayed faded bruises and rope burn marks on her wrists, Robertson said. But, she told him, she is unable to leave Tripoli and be reunited with her family and faces abuse whenever she leaves her house, he said.

The Libyan government is insisting on a review of the interview by a government representative before transmission. The review was scheduled Wednesday night, but an apparently imminent airstrike postponed the review until Thursday morning. Verder.

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Op donderdag 7 april 2011 12:05 schreef rakotto het volgende:

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WTF was dat.

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Op donderdag 7 april 2011 19:23 schreef svann het volgende:


Waarom de kans verknallen dat het westen eens in een positiever daglicht komt te staan in de arabische wereld?

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http://www.guardian.co.uk(...)dmap-for-peace-libya

Recep Tayyip Erdogan urges Gaddafi forces to withdraw from cities, and calls for comprehensive democratic change

Turkey's prime minister, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, has proposed a roadmap for peace in Libya, urging forces aligned with Muammar Gaddafi to withdraw from besieged cities, and calling for the establishment of humanitarian aid corridors and comprehensive democratic change.

Erdogan said the measures would be discussed at a meeting by a group set up to guide the international intervention in Libya in Qatar next week.

Turkey has held talks this week with envoys from Gaddafi's government and representatives of the Libyan opposition.

Erdogan also assured the opposition that Turkey supports their demands, following recent protests in Libya against Turkey by some opposition members.

Turkey initially balked at the idea of military action in Libya, but is now taking part in the enforcement of a no-fly zone to shield civilians. It has also volunteered to lead humanitarian aid efforts.

Britain's Foreign Office said the contact group that will meet in Qatar – which includes European powers, US allies in the Middle East and a number of international organisations – will meet in Doha on Wednesday.

The ministry could not confirm precisely who has been invited to attend. British government officials said the US would be represented, and that the Arab League is also expected to be at the talks.

Britain's foreign secretary, William Hague, said last week that he planned to travel to the talks alongside about a dozen other Arab, European and international officials.

The group was established during a summit in London last week to act as the political guide to the Nato-led military operation and humanitarian assistance mission in Libya.

Hague told parliament last week that the panel would "maintain international unity and bring together a wide range of nations in support of a better future for Libya."

Gaddafi has been widely excluded from international efforts to broker a peace plan, with rebels insisting that his four-decade rule must end.

In Scotland, prosecutors confirmed that they would not have a chance Thursday to interview Moussa Koussa, the ex-Libyan foreign minister who fled to Britain via Tunisia last week and has spent eight days in discussions with diplomats and intelligence officials.

Prosecutors said on Monday they hoped to speak with Koussa within days over the 1988 bombing of Pan Am Flight 103 over Lockerbie, which killed 270 people.

In 2003, Libya acknowledged responsibility for the bombing and Scottish authorities believe Koussa could offer vital information to their ongoing inquiry.

Another former Gaddafi loyalist, former energy minister Omar Fathi bin Shatwan, has also held talks with British and other European diplomats to discuss the state of Gaddafi's regime. He told the Associated Press on Wednesday that he had fled to Malta on a fishing vessel.

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Op donderdag 7 april 2011 19:23 schreef svann het volgende:
NATO is ongelofelijk traag en slecht in communicatie.

Waar is de tijd dat men vanaf de grond de coördinaten van Gaddafi's troepen aan de amerikanen, engelsen of fransen doorgaf en er in vrij korte tijd respons kwam?
Nu schijnt dat een uur of acht te moeten duren.
Waarom wachten tot een regiment in de voorsteden staat als men het met een beetje coördinatie al eerder in onbewoond gebied had kunnen tegenhouden?

Waarom de kans verknallen dat het westen eens in een positiever daglicht komt te staan in de arabische wereld?

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Tripolitanian #FBI has confirmed that #Gaddafi may be attempting retaliatory attacks against Americans on American soil | #US #Libya about 1 hour ago via web

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CBSNews: General: U.S. may consider troops in Libya

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Op donderdag 7 april 2011 23:09 schreef MisterJ.Lo het volgende:
Als Amerika grondtroepen inzet is het definitief afgelopen met Khadaffi en zijn huurlingen, het nadeel hiervan is is de negatieve propaganda dat achteraf ingesteld zou kunnen worden om te kunnen stellen dat Amerika Libië alleen is beginnen gevallen voor de olie.

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Ja, we vallen binnen want deze dictator maakt mensen af EN is nadelig voor de olieprijs. Dit beïnvloed niet alleen ons maar heel de wereld en dat is slecht.

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Op donderdag 7 april 2011 23:09 schreef MisterJ.Lo het volgende:
Als Amerika grondtroepen inzet is het definitief afgelopen met Khadaffi en zijn huurlingen, het nadeel hiervan is is de negatieve propaganda dat achteraf ingesteld zou kunnen worden om te kunnen stellen dat Amerika Libië alleen is beginnen gevallen voor de olie.

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Op vrijdag 8 april 2011 01:18 schreef rakotto het volgende:
Grondtroepen moeten sowieso niet in Libie.

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Op donderdag 7 april 2011 23:09 schreef MisterJ.Lo het volgende:
Als Amerika grondtroepen inzet is het definitief afgelopen met Khadaffi en zijn huurlingen, het nadeel hiervan is is de negatieve propaganda dat achteraf ingesteld zou kunnen worden om te kunnen stellen dat Amerika Libië alleen is beginnen gevallen voor de olie.

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Op vrijdag 8 april 2011 01:35 schreef boekenplank het volgende:

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En dat doen ze niet? Schei toch uit er zijn over de hele wereld brandhaarden met dictators en mensenrechtenschendingen. Zitten er al troepen in Myanmar, bombarderen we al in Ivoorkust, in China verdwijnen ook opeens weer een hoop dissidenten gaan we daar wat aan doen?
Nee, het is allemaal eigengewin.

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8 April 2011 Last updated at 09:14 GMT
Nato refuses to apologise for strike on Libya rebels
Nato has refused to apologise for a "friendly fire" attack on rebel tanks in eastern Libya that killed at least four people.

Rear Adm Russ Harding said that until Thursday's incident, Nato had not been aware that rebel troops had started to use tanks.

"Our job is to protect civilians," he told a news conference.

Rebel forces reacted with anger at the air strike on their tanks near the eastern town of Ajdabiya.

However, rebel commanders had stressed that it would not damage relations with the allied force.

Rear Adm Harding, speaking in Naples, described the situation between the towns of Ajdabiya and Brega - where the attack happened - as "very fluid" with vehicles "going backwards and forwards".

He said government tanks known to have previously targeted civilians in the town of Misrata had been on the road on Thursday. At that point, Nato did not know that rebel troops had begun to bring out their tanks.

He said that the UN mandate under which Nato is operating is to "protect civilians", whether from the forces of Col Gaddafi or the rebel troops themselves.

"Let me be clear, it did not say to gain the trust of either side in doing that," he said.

Explanation call

The rebels hit in Thursday's air strike had been moving a group of tanks, armoured vehicles and rocket launchers near the front line between the towns of Ajdabiya and Brega in more than 30 transporters.

One rebel commander told the BBC he saw at least four missiles land among rebel fighters.

Rebels said four rebels died, while local doctors told the BBC at least 13 fighters had been killed in the strike. Many more were injured.

The BBC's Wyre Davies in Ajdabiya said there was considerable anger among rebel troops about the incident. They were asking why rebel units were hit, when they could be seen clearly advancing in a westerly direction towards the front line.

Rebel commander Gen Abdelfatah Yunis had earlier called on Nato to give a "rational and convincing explanation" about the incident.

He also said such mistakes must not be repeated and called for better co-operation in the future.

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Op vrijdag 8 april 2011 11:41 schreef doeterniettoezegiktoch het volgende:

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Op vrijdag 8 april 2011 11:43 schreef Ulpianus het volgende:

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Wat een rare reactie. Een excuses kan toch wel?

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08 Apr. 2011
Press briefing on events concerning Libya (audio)
by Oana Lungescu, the NATO Spokesperson and Rear Admiral Russell Harding, Deputy Commander of the Combined Joint Task Force Operation Unified Protector

On 8 April, Oana Lungescu, the NATO Spokesperson, briefed the press on events concerning Libya.

She was joined by Rear Admiral Russell Harding, Deputy Commander of the Combined Joint Task Force Operation Unified Protector, who briefed from Naples (via video teleconference) on NATOs operation in Libya in support of UNSCR 1973.

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Op vrijdag 8 april 2011 11:46 schreef doeterniettoezegiktoch het volgende:

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ja ik vind het ook raar ik ben ff aan het bijlezen en luisteren , hier audio van die persconferentie ;

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08 Apr. 2011
Press briefing on events concerning Libya
by Oana Lungescu, the NATO Spokesperson and Rear Admiral Russell Harding, Deputy Commander of the Combined Joint Task Force Operation Unified Protector

* Good morning welcome to NATO headquarters in Brussels. I am very pleased to introduce Deputy Commander of Operation Unified Protector, Rear Admiral James Harding, who joins us from Naples.

NATO has been in full command and control of enforcing United Nations Security Council resolution 1973 for a full week now. During that time we have continued to degrade Gaddafis military, as the regime continues to hold cities under siege and indiscriminately its own people. Our action has been decisive, far-reaching and sustained.

Admiral Harding will give more information on the operational aspects of the mission in a few moments.

Forces from NATO nations and partners in the region are contributing to the Alliances operation, demonstrating the breadth of international military commitment to this operation. This includes substantial contributions from Qatar the UAE and Sweden.

NATO Allies met yesterday with our operational partners to discuss the situation in Libya, the dire conditions in Misrata, and further broadening of international contribution in support of this mission. All confirmed their continued commitment to the military operation to protect the people of Libya.

The North Atlantic Council also met earlier this week with the Chairperson of the African Union Commission Jean Ping. They agreed the African Union plays a key role in achieving an early and peaceful solution to the crisis. And of course we will continue to maintain a close and transparent dialogue with the African Union, as well as other relevant international and regional organisations.

NATO is in command of the military mission, but we know there can be no purely military solution to this crisis. There is unprecedented international unity and resolve for a political solution. The Secretary General will attend next weeks Contact Group meeting in Qatar. NATO will contribute there, as part of the broader of international effort to discuss the way forward for Libya.

The NATO Secretary General is in constant discussions with international leaders who are playing a key role in the ongoing efforts to support Libya. He has briefed them on NATOs led operations and has been clear that NATO stands ready to assist in whatever capacity the international community deems appropriate.

We will face challenges in the days and weeks ahead. The safety and the legitimate aspirations of the Libyan civilian population are at stake, and the need for the international community to act with unity and purpose is clear. For its part NATO is pressing ahead with the robust and vigilant enforcement of UNSCR 1973.

The civilian population of Libya are NATOs foremost concern. NATOs message to the citizens of LIbya is clear. Our mission is to protect you from those who use military force against unarmed civilians. We are steadfast in our resolve to prevent Gadaffi from using his heavy weaponry against you.

Now to provide more detail of what NATO forces have achieved in that spirit of unity, I would now like to hand over to Rear Admiral Harding.*

http://www.nato.int/cps/e(...)e/opinions_72150.htm

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Op vrijdag 8 april 2011 11:48 schreef doeterniettoezegiktoch het volgende:

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hier is de tekst van de audio

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10:39am

This video posted online by Wefaq Media is said to show the air strike that killed at least four people outside Brega yesterday.