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Maar niet uitgevoerd, dus roepen ze 'm nog maar een keertje uit.quote:Op woensdag 30 maart 2011 01:32 schreef PhysicsRules het volgende:
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Lopen ze daar niet een beetje mee achter? De derde intifada is al een paar keer uitgeroepen de afgelopen 10 jaar
quote:Court sentences West Bank settler to prison for beating Palestinian minor
Settler was convicted of kidnapping and attacking Palestinian teen on two occasions as well as of killing his young goat.
By Chaim Levinson (via)
Huh? Hoezo dan?quote:Op dinsdag 29 maart 2011 19:31 schreef Nibb-it het volgende:
Als het vier Israëli's waren had het nu waarschijnlijk storm gelopen hier.
Onderschat nooit de kracht van domme mensen in grote groepen!
Der Irrsinn ist bei Einzelnen etwas Seltenes - aber bei Gruppen, Parteien, Völkern, Zeiten die Regel. (Friedrich Nietzsche)
Der Irrsinn ist bei Einzelnen etwas Seltenes - aber bei Gruppen, Parteien, Völkern, Zeiten die Regel. (Friedrich Nietzsche)
Er zijn een aantal users die er altijd als de kippen bij zijn om Israël te veroordelen, maar die hoor je niet als er een Palestijn negatief in het nieuws komt.
Hoe misdadig dit ook is, het heeft m.i. niets met het conflict te maken. Dit soort smerige mishandelingszaken gebeuren overal.quote:Op woensdag 30 maart 2011 02:26 schreef Nibb-it het volgende:
Er zijn een aantal users die er altijd als de kippen bij zijn om Israël te veroordelen, maar die hoor je niet als er een Palestijn negatief in het nieuws komt.
quote:Israel air strike kills Gaza militant linked to rocket attack near border
Islamic Jihad, a Palestinian faction that has played a leading role in the violence and is an occasional ally of Hamas claimed the dead man as its own.
Israel Air Force jets struck Wednesday a group of Palestinian militants in southern Gaza, killing one gunman and wounding another as they rode a motorcycle, Gaza medical officials said.
The Israel Defense Forces confirmed carrying out the dawn strike, saying it targeted Palestinians who had launched a short-range rocket across the border on Tuesday. No one was hurt in that attack, which followed a surge in fighting around Gaza this month.
Islamic Jihad, a Palestinian faction that has played a leading role in the violence and is an occasional ally of Gaza's Hamas rulers, claimed the dead man and his comrade as its own. They had been driving to mosque prayers when they were struck on the road from Khan Younis to Rafah in south Gaza, Islamic Jihad said in a statement.
With Israel threatening a wider assault on Gaza in response to the recent rocket salvos, Hamas on Saturday offered a truce.
But exchanges of fire between Israel and Islamic Jihad have persisted.
Earlier on Wednesday, Israel's air force bombed a smuggling tunnel used by Palestinians to circumvent a blockade on Gaza's border with Egypt, witnesses said. (via)
Ik vind het maar een raar ding zo'n mitznefet ik vraag me af of het nou echt zo effectief is. Ik heb ze ook wel eens gezien met een soort van regenponcho maar dan in desert-kleuren.
quote:Rocket hits south of Ashkelon; no injuries
Rocket fired by terrorists in north Gaza lands in open space near Israeli city
A rocket fired by Palestinian terrorists in north Gaza Thursday evening landed in an open area south of Ashkelon. There were no reports of injury or damage.
At around 7:30 pm the "Color Red" siren sounded in communities located south of Ashkelon. An explosion was heard shortly thereafter. Security forces were searching for the rocket's exact landing site.
On Tuesday terrorists in Gaza launched a Qassam rocket towards Sderot, but it landed in Palestinian territory. In response, Israeli aircraft bombed targets in the Hamas-ruled territory, killing a gunman from Islamic Jihad.
Following the deployment of the Iron Dome missile defense system near Beersheba on Sunday, Ashkelon's residents demanded that another battery be deployed near their city. "We sustained rocket fire long before they (Beersheba residents) did," one resident said. (via)
IDF kill 3 terorrist in gazza .onder hun een leider van de islamiet jihad.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4050912,00.html
op geruimd staat netjes .
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4050912,00.html
op geruimd staat netjes .
Goldstone heeft spijt van zijn report. en en als hij wist wat hij nu weet was het raport heel anders aldus mr goldstone .
zullen de leugens van het raport nu eens schoon gemaakt worden /
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4050990,00.html
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4051053,00.html
http://www.washingtonpost(...)l?fb_ref=NetworkNews
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Goldstone
acht het duurt altijd wat langer voordat de waarheid inzinkt
[ Bericht 24% gewijzigd door C_N op 02-04-2011 21:55:46 ]
zullen de leugens van het raport nu eens schoon gemaakt worden /
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4050990,00.html
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4051053,00.html
http://www.washingtonpost(...)l?fb_ref=NetworkNews
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Goldstone
acht het duurt altijd wat langer voordat de waarheid inzinkt
[ Bericht 24% gewijzigd door C_N op 02-04-2011 21:55:46 ]
By Richard Goldstone, Friday, April 1, 8:42 PM
We know a lot more today about what happened in the Gaza war of 2008-09 than we did when I chaired the fact-finding mission appointed by the U.N. Human Rights Council that produced what has come to be known as the Goldstone Report. If I had known then what I know now, the Goldstone Report would have been a different document.
The final report by the U.N. committee of independent experts — chaired by former New York judge Mary McGowan Davis — that followed up on the recommendations of the Goldstone Report has found that “Israel has dedicated significant resources to investigate over 400 allegations of operational misconduct in Gaza” while “the de facto authorities (i.e., Hamas) have not conducted any investigations into the launching of rocket and mortar attacks against Israel.”
Our report found evidence of potential war crimes and “possibly crimes against humanity” by both Israel and Hamas. That the crimes allegedly committed by Hamas were intentional goes without saying — its rockets were purposefully and indiscriminately aimed at civilian targets.
The allegations of intentionality by Israel were based on the deaths of and injuries to civilians in situations where our fact-finding mission had no evidence on which to draw any other reasonable conclusion. While the investigations published by the Israeli military and recognized in the U.N. committee’s report have established the validity of some incidents that we investigated in cases involving individual soldiers, they also indicate that civilians were not intentionally targeted as a matter of policy.
For example, the most serious attack the Goldstone Report focused on was the killing of some 29 members of the al-Simouni family in their home. The shelling of the home was apparently the consequence of an Israeli commander’s erroneous interpretation of a drone image, and an Israeli officer is under investigation for having ordered the attack. While the length of this investigation is frustrating, it appears that an appropriate process is underway, and I am confident that if the officer is found to have been negligent, Israel will respond accordingly. The purpose of these investigations, as I have always said, is to ensure accountability for improper actions, not to second-guess, with the benefit of hindsight, commanders making difficult battlefield decisions.
While I welcome Israel’s investigations into allegations, I share the concerns reflected in the McGowan Davis report that few of Israel’s inquiries have been concluded and believe that the proceedings should have been held in a public forum. Although the Israeli evidence that has emerged since publication of our report doesn’t negate the tragic loss of civilian life, I regret that our fact-finding mission did not have such evidence explaining the circumstances in which we said civilians in Gaza were targeted, because it probably would have influenced our findings about intentionality and war crimes.
Israel’s lack of cooperation with our investigation meant that we were not able to corroborate how many Gazans killed were civilians and how many were combatants. The Israeli military’s numbers have turned out to be similar to those recently furnished by Hamas (although Hamas may have reason to inflate the number of its combatants).
As I indicated from the very beginning, I would have welcomed Israel’s cooperation. The purpose of the Goldstone Report was never to prove a foregone conclusion against Israel. I insisted on changing the original mandate adopted by the Human Rights Council, which was skewed against Israel. I have always been clear that Israel, like any other sovereign nation, has the right and obligation to defend itself and its citizens against attacks from abroad and within. Something that has not been recognized often enough is the fact that our report marked the first time illegal acts of terrorism from Hamas were being investigated and condemned by the United Nations. I had hoped that our inquiry into all aspects of the Gaza conflict would begin a new era of evenhandedness at the U.N. Human Rights Council, whose history of bias against Israel cannot be doubted.
Some have charged that the process we followed did not live up to judicial standards. To be clear: Our mission was in no way a judicial or even quasi-judicial proceeding. We did not investigate criminal conduct on the part of any individual in Israel, Gaza or the West Bank. We made our recommendations based on the record before us, which unfortunately did not include any evidence provided by the Israeli government. Indeed, our main recommendation was for each party to investigate, transparently and in good faith, the incidents referred to in our report. McGowan Davis has found that Israel has done this to a significant degree; Hamas has done nothing.
Some have suggested that it was absurd to expect Hamas, an organization that has a policy to destroy the state of Israel, to investigate what we said were serious war crimes. It was my hope, even if unrealistic, that Hamas would do so, especially if Israel conducted its own investigations. At minimum I hoped that in the face of a clear finding that its members were committing serious war crimes, Hamas would curtail its attacks. Sadly, that has not been the case. Hundreds more rockets and mortar rounds have been directed at civilian targets in southern Israel. That comparatively few Israelis have been killed by the unlawful rocket and mortar attacks from Gaza in no way minimizes the criminality. The U.N. Human Rights Council should condemn these heinous acts in the strongest terms.
In the end, asking Hamas to investigate may have been a mistaken enterprise. So, too, the Human Rights Council should condemn the inexcusable and cold-blooded recent slaughter of a young Israeli couple and three of their small children in their beds.
I continue to believe in the cause of establishing and applying international law to protracted and deadly conflicts. Our report has led to numerous “lessons learned” and policy changes, including the adoption of new Israel Defense Forces procedures for protecting civilians in cases of urban warfare and limiting the use of white phosphorus in civilian areas. The Palestinian Authority established an independent inquiry into our allegations of human rights abuses — assassinations, torture and illegal detentions — perpetrated by Fatah in the West Bank, especially against members of Hamas. Most of those allegations were confirmed by this inquiry. Regrettably, there has been no effort by Hamas in Gaza to investigate the allegations of its war crimes and possible crimes against humanity.
Simply put, the laws of armed conflict apply no less to non-state actors such as Hamas than they do to national armies. Ensuring that non-state actors respect these principles, and are investigated when they fail to do so, is one of the most significant challenges facing the law of armed conflict. Only if all parties to armed conflicts are held to these standards will we be able to protect civilians who, through no choice of their own, are caught up in war.
The writer, a retired justice of the Constitutional Court of South Africa and former chief prosecutor of the U.N. International Criminal Tribunals for the former Yugoslavia and Rwanda, chaired the U.N. fact-finding mission on the Gaza conflict.
We know a lot more today about what happened in the Gaza war of 2008-09 than we did when I chaired the fact-finding mission appointed by the U.N. Human Rights Council that produced what has come to be known as the Goldstone Report. If I had known then what I know now, the Goldstone Report would have been a different document.
The final report by the U.N. committee of independent experts — chaired by former New York judge Mary McGowan Davis — that followed up on the recommendations of the Goldstone Report has found that “Israel has dedicated significant resources to investigate over 400 allegations of operational misconduct in Gaza” while “the de facto authorities (i.e., Hamas) have not conducted any investigations into the launching of rocket and mortar attacks against Israel.”
Our report found evidence of potential war crimes and “possibly crimes against humanity” by both Israel and Hamas. That the crimes allegedly committed by Hamas were intentional goes without saying — its rockets were purposefully and indiscriminately aimed at civilian targets.
The allegations of intentionality by Israel were based on the deaths of and injuries to civilians in situations where our fact-finding mission had no evidence on which to draw any other reasonable conclusion. While the investigations published by the Israeli military and recognized in the U.N. committee’s report have established the validity of some incidents that we investigated in cases involving individual soldiers, they also indicate that civilians were not intentionally targeted as a matter of policy.
For example, the most serious attack the Goldstone Report focused on was the killing of some 29 members of the al-Simouni family in their home. The shelling of the home was apparently the consequence of an Israeli commander’s erroneous interpretation of a drone image, and an Israeli officer is under investigation for having ordered the attack. While the length of this investigation is frustrating, it appears that an appropriate process is underway, and I am confident that if the officer is found to have been negligent, Israel will respond accordingly. The purpose of these investigations, as I have always said, is to ensure accountability for improper actions, not to second-guess, with the benefit of hindsight, commanders making difficult battlefield decisions.
While I welcome Israel’s investigations into allegations, I share the concerns reflected in the McGowan Davis report that few of Israel’s inquiries have been concluded and believe that the proceedings should have been held in a public forum. Although the Israeli evidence that has emerged since publication of our report doesn’t negate the tragic loss of civilian life, I regret that our fact-finding mission did not have such evidence explaining the circumstances in which we said civilians in Gaza were targeted, because it probably would have influenced our findings about intentionality and war crimes.
Israel’s lack of cooperation with our investigation meant that we were not able to corroborate how many Gazans killed were civilians and how many were combatants. The Israeli military’s numbers have turned out to be similar to those recently furnished by Hamas (although Hamas may have reason to inflate the number of its combatants).
As I indicated from the very beginning, I would have welcomed Israel’s cooperation. The purpose of the Goldstone Report was never to prove a foregone conclusion against Israel. I insisted on changing the original mandate adopted by the Human Rights Council, which was skewed against Israel. I have always been clear that Israel, like any other sovereign nation, has the right and obligation to defend itself and its citizens against attacks from abroad and within. Something that has not been recognized often enough is the fact that our report marked the first time illegal acts of terrorism from Hamas were being investigated and condemned by the United Nations. I had hoped that our inquiry into all aspects of the Gaza conflict would begin a new era of evenhandedness at the U.N. Human Rights Council, whose history of bias against Israel cannot be doubted.
Some have charged that the process we followed did not live up to judicial standards. To be clear: Our mission was in no way a judicial or even quasi-judicial proceeding. We did not investigate criminal conduct on the part of any individual in Israel, Gaza or the West Bank. We made our recommendations based on the record before us, which unfortunately did not include any evidence provided by the Israeli government. Indeed, our main recommendation was for each party to investigate, transparently and in good faith, the incidents referred to in our report. McGowan Davis has found that Israel has done this to a significant degree; Hamas has done nothing.
Some have suggested that it was absurd to expect Hamas, an organization that has a policy to destroy the state of Israel, to investigate what we said were serious war crimes. It was my hope, even if unrealistic, that Hamas would do so, especially if Israel conducted its own investigations. At minimum I hoped that in the face of a clear finding that its members were committing serious war crimes, Hamas would curtail its attacks. Sadly, that has not been the case. Hundreds more rockets and mortar rounds have been directed at civilian targets in southern Israel. That comparatively few Israelis have been killed by the unlawful rocket and mortar attacks from Gaza in no way minimizes the criminality. The U.N. Human Rights Council should condemn these heinous acts in the strongest terms.
In the end, asking Hamas to investigate may have been a mistaken enterprise. So, too, the Human Rights Council should condemn the inexcusable and cold-blooded recent slaughter of a young Israeli couple and three of their small children in their beds.
I continue to believe in the cause of establishing and applying international law to protracted and deadly conflicts. Our report has led to numerous “lessons learned” and policy changes, including the adoption of new Israel Defense Forces procedures for protecting civilians in cases of urban warfare and limiting the use of white phosphorus in civilian areas. The Palestinian Authority established an independent inquiry into our allegations of human rights abuses — assassinations, torture and illegal detentions — perpetrated by Fatah in the West Bank, especially against members of Hamas. Most of those allegations were confirmed by this inquiry. Regrettably, there has been no effort by Hamas in Gaza to investigate the allegations of its war crimes and possible crimes against humanity.
Simply put, the laws of armed conflict apply no less to non-state actors such as Hamas than they do to national armies. Ensuring that non-state actors respect these principles, and are investigated when they fail to do so, is one of the most significant challenges facing the law of armed conflict. Only if all parties to armed conflicts are held to these standards will we be able to protect civilians who, through no choice of their own, are caught up in war.
The writer, a retired justice of the Constitutional Court of South Africa and former chief prosecutor of the U.N. International Criminal Tribunals for the former Yugoslavia and Rwanda, chaired the U.N. fact-finding mission on the Gaza conflict.
Dit begint het Grote C_N-Nibb-it slowchattopic te wordenquote:Netanyahu: UN must cancel Goldstone report
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu called on the UN to cancel the Goldstone report on Operation Cast Lead in Gaza following an article written by Judge Richard Goldstone in which he says he regrets his conclusions.
"Everything we said was proven to be true. Israel did not willfully harm civilians," Netanyahu explained, adding, "Israel's investigating institutions are worthy, while Hamas investigated nothing. The fact that Goldstone withdrew ihis conclusions must lead to the cancelation of the report once and for all." (Attila Somfalvi) (via)
en er gebeurd een hoop in Israel.quote:
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Dit begint het Grote C_N-Nibb-it slowchattopic te worden
ik wacht nog steeds op een antwoord van Aloulou .
dit is dan weer jammer maar. wel weer te begrijpen .
wand geloof mij je word echt ziek van hun hoor, zelfs de palestijnen worden soms ziek van deze .
ze hebben een hoop business verziekt in deze omgeving voor de palestijnen .
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4051147,00.html
[ Bericht 16% gewijzigd door C_N op 03-04-2011 06:58:32 ]
wand geloof mij je word echt ziek van hun hoor, zelfs de palestijnen worden soms ziek van deze .
ze hebben een hoop business verziekt in deze omgeving voor de palestijnen .
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4051147,00.html
[ Bericht 16% gewijzigd door C_N op 03-04-2011 06:58:32 ]
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4051182,00.htmlquote:
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Dit begint het Grote C_N-Nibb-it slowchattopic te worden
nog maar eens wat over het links geliefde gold stone report.
al de kranten stonden er vol van . Israel dit Israel dat ,
en nu ....? dit noemen wij hier in Israel hypocriet,
maar ow wee als er weer eens een links protestertje word weg geduwd. 
verdacht pakettje gevonden in het centraal bus station in jerusalem .
straaten afgesloten meer nieuws volgd
straaten afgesloten meer nieuws volgd
Het gaat lekker de laatste weken.quote:
verdacht pakettje gevonden in het centraal bus station in jerusalem .
straaten afgesloten meer nieuws volgd
Hij staat op te zoeken in zijn handboek hoeveel mensen hij deze keer moet vermoorden?quote:
Antwoord: gewoon allemaal, en vergeet de kinderen niet.
[ Bericht 7% gewijzigd door paddy op 04-04-2011 02:00:09 ]
Onderschat nooit de kracht van domme mensen in grote groepen!
Der Irrsinn ist bei Einzelnen etwas Seltenes - aber bei Gruppen, Parteien, Völkern, Zeiten die Regel. (Friedrich Nietzsche)
Der Irrsinn ist bei Einzelnen etwas Seltenes - aber bei Gruppen, Parteien, Völkern, Zeiten die Regel. (Friedrich Nietzsche)
Doe toch normaal man.quote:
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Hij staat op te zoeken in zijn handboek hoeveel mensen hij deze keer moet vermoorden?
Antwoord: gewoon allemaal, en vergeet de kinderen niet.
Je kunt je kont ook niet keren of allerlei obscure figuren gaan met een topic aan de haal.
