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Wat moet zo'n donkere sporter op de achtergrond?quote:Op vrijdag 22 april 2011 23:07 schreef grazz het volgende:
Ehm ja.. Brian Zalmijn schijnt dus ook voetballer te zijn
Op woensdag 22 januari 2025 19:50 schreef Bugno3 het volgende:
Stukje Pelle, stukje Cannavaro, stukje Totti.
Stukje Pelle, stukje Cannavaro, stukje Totti.
Eurovision Betting Analysis: Can the Netherlands reverse their fortunes?
In this series so far I’ve tended to deal with countries which have a strong track record in Eurovision. When a Dutch Eurovision magazine asked me if I would like to write an article on the chances for the Netherlands this year, it was an opportunity to write instead about the country which has the worst record in recent Eurovision history.
The Netherlands has failed to reach the Top 12 since the turn of the millennium, and their only qualification since the semi-final system began was in 2004. They have often seemed trapped in a Eurovision timewarp, as their terribly dated and cheesy last two offerings showed. Have the Dutch learnt from their mistakes in sending 3JS with ’Never Alone’?
First, the good news. ‘Never Alone’ is a decent number by Eurovision standards. It’s a radio-friendly, midtempo song with plenty of nice little hooks. The lead singer has an interesting voice with an effective, plaintive tone in the high notes that suits the composition. You can watch a live rendition here.
The country’s sole semi qualifier, Re-Union’s ‘Without You’ in 2004, was a similarly gentle number.
‘Never Alone’ also has the great good fortune of being in the second semi-final, which has plenty of dross. To qualify it has to beat nine songs, and there’s no doubt there are nine worse songs in this heat.
The lack of big hitters in this semi is similarly good news for nations such as The Netherlands which are relatively friendless in televoting terms. The country has just the one ally – Belgium – and this time around they don’t have to compete with the likes of Armenia and Greece, who hoovered up the Belgian 12 and 10 in the 2008 semi.
That year was the last time The Netherlands sent a credible entry. Hind’s ‘Your Heart Belongs To Me’ was an enthnopop song that was compared, often favourably, to the Armenian entry that year. But it fared much worse, and here’s where the bad news starts for 3JS’s chances in 2011.
In part, what did for Hind was bad staging, and this seems to be something of a pattern for The Netherlands. Repeating their mistake from 2007 – Edsilia Rombley’s ‘On Top of the World’ – pointless and poor backing dancers distracted from the song (although Hind’s failure to use the stage or find the camera counted even more).
The staging in 2009 and 2010 also seemed to hinder rather than help, so it has to be a worry what the Netherlands team will come up with for this year – even though ‘Never Alone’ isn’t the kind of song that needs any theatrics. The comparable ‘Without You’ qualified in 2004 with just two blokes with stools and guitars. But even if this lesson is learnt and the staging is an improvement on recent years, a bigger problem lies in wait.
Re-Union were drawn last in that 2004 semi-final. Always helpful, it is especially crucial for a song like ‘Without You’ – as demonstrated by its disastrous showing in the final when it had an early draw.
3JS also have a terrible draw (three) in their semi and, sadly, I think this could prove fatal. Because while ‘Never Alone’ is competent and pleasant, it’s also easily forgettable. 3JS are hardly telegenic, either. Who, apart from the Belgians, is going to remember this inoffensive number by the end of the show?
If the Netherlands are to scrape into the final, therefore, I think they will have to rely on a high jury score. This isn’t impossible – as I say, there are certainly nine worse songs in this heat – but at the same time, I struggle to see the juries going for it in a sufficiently big way. It’s just too bland, and bland is about as damning an adjective as you can apply to a Eurovision song.
So, much as it would be nice to see the Netherlands reverse their disastrous run of recent results by qualifying for the big one, and a fair result as it would be in this semi-final, ultimately I fear it’s not going to happen.
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In this series so far I’ve tended to deal with countries which have a strong track record in Eurovision. When a Dutch Eurovision magazine asked me if I would like to write an article on the chances for the Netherlands this year, it was an opportunity to write instead about the country which has the worst record in recent Eurovision history.
The Netherlands has failed to reach the Top 12 since the turn of the millennium, and their only qualification since the semi-final system began was in 2004. They have often seemed trapped in a Eurovision timewarp, as their terribly dated and cheesy last two offerings showed. Have the Dutch learnt from their mistakes in sending 3JS with ’Never Alone’?
First, the good news. ‘Never Alone’ is a decent number by Eurovision standards. It’s a radio-friendly, midtempo song with plenty of nice little hooks. The lead singer has an interesting voice with an effective, plaintive tone in the high notes that suits the composition. You can watch a live rendition here.
The country’s sole semi qualifier, Re-Union’s ‘Without You’ in 2004, was a similarly gentle number.
‘Never Alone’ also has the great good fortune of being in the second semi-final, which has plenty of dross. To qualify it has to beat nine songs, and there’s no doubt there are nine worse songs in this heat.
The lack of big hitters in this semi is similarly good news for nations such as The Netherlands which are relatively friendless in televoting terms. The country has just the one ally – Belgium – and this time around they don’t have to compete with the likes of Armenia and Greece, who hoovered up the Belgian 12 and 10 in the 2008 semi.
That year was the last time The Netherlands sent a credible entry. Hind’s ‘Your Heart Belongs To Me’ was an enthnopop song that was compared, often favourably, to the Armenian entry that year. But it fared much worse, and here’s where the bad news starts for 3JS’s chances in 2011.
In part, what did for Hind was bad staging, and this seems to be something of a pattern for The Netherlands. Repeating their mistake from 2007 – Edsilia Rombley’s ‘On Top of the World’ – pointless and poor backing dancers distracted from the song (although Hind’s failure to use the stage or find the camera counted even more).
The staging in 2009 and 2010 also seemed to hinder rather than help, so it has to be a worry what the Netherlands team will come up with for this year – even though ‘Never Alone’ isn’t the kind of song that needs any theatrics. The comparable ‘Without You’ qualified in 2004 with just two blokes with stools and guitars. But even if this lesson is learnt and the staging is an improvement on recent years, a bigger problem lies in wait.
Re-Union were drawn last in that 2004 semi-final. Always helpful, it is especially crucial for a song like ‘Without You’ – as demonstrated by its disastrous showing in the final when it had an early draw.
3JS also have a terrible draw (three) in their semi and, sadly, I think this could prove fatal. Because while ‘Never Alone’ is competent and pleasant, it’s also easily forgettable. 3JS are hardly telegenic, either. Who, apart from the Belgians, is going to remember this inoffensive number by the end of the show?
If the Netherlands are to scrape into the final, therefore, I think they will have to rely on a high jury score. This isn’t impossible – as I say, there are certainly nine worse songs in this heat – but at the same time, I struggle to see the juries going for it in a sufficiently big way. It’s just too bland, and bland is about as damning an adjective as you can apply to a Eurovision song.
So, much as it would be nice to see the Netherlands reverse their disastrous run of recent results by qualifying for the big one, and a fair result as it would be in this semi-final, ultimately I fear it’s not going to happen.
© http://sofabet.com/2011/0(...)unes/comment-page-1/
All we got is this moment - Joost Klein, 9 mei 2024
Ah, dan heb ik wat dat betreft niets gezegdquote:
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Op het NSF waren er ook backings
Rechts achter ze, twee stuks.
Maar ik hoop wel dat er een rustige act omheen gebouwd wordt. Het is de voorbije jaren wel vaker gebeurd dat minder belangrijke mensen op het podium tot overlast leidden. Zie ook het stukje in het vorige bericht waar ik het wel mee eens ben.
De Sahara is zonder meer erg droog.
Ik denk dat we ons geen zorgen hoeven te maken over de act. Het zal nog eerder té rustig/statisch zijn vrees ik, maar rustig past ook wel bij dit nummer. Zou niet weten hoe ze het anders moeten doen.quote:
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Ah, dan heb ik wat dat betreft niets gezegd
Maar ik hoop wel dat er een rustige act omheen gebouwd wordt. Het is de voorbije jaren wel vaker gebeurd dat minder belangrijke mensen op het podium tot overlast leidden. Zie ook het stukje in het vorige bericht waar ik het wel mee eens ben.
All we got is this moment - Joost Klein, 9 mei 2024
Leo van der Donk zegt tegen het tijdschrift Privé: “Jaap Kwakman draagt als enige geen jasje, maar een zwart vierknoops gillet. Hij laat dus zijn armen zien. De broek is zwart, het hemd wit. Jan Dulles verschijnt in een doublebreasted kostuum ten tonele in offwhite, gecombineerd met zwart hemd en zwarte broek. Jaap de Witte trekt een donderblauw tweeknoops smokingjasje aan met donkerblauwe broek en hemd. Je moet zorgen dat er een eindheid in zit, maar ze ook weer niet allemaal hetzelfde aantrekken. Dan krijg je een soort drumband. Ze hebben alle drie een nogal uitgesproken identiteit, waar ze, terecht, aan willen vasthouden.”
http://www.esfmagazine.nl/?p=4368
http://www.esfmagazine.nl/?p=4368
All we got is this moment - Joost Klein, 9 mei 2024
Ik snap het nietquote:
Leo van der Donk zegt tegen het tijdschrift Privé: “Jaap Kwakman draagt als enige geen jasje, maar een zwart vierknoops gillet. Hij laat dus zijn armen zien. De broek is zwart, het hemd wit. Jan Dulles verschijnt in een doublebreasted kostuum ten tonele in offwhite, gecombineerd met zwart hemd en zwarte broek. Jaap de Witte trekt een donderblauw tweeknoops smokingjasje aan met donkerblauwe broek en hemd. Je moet zorgen dat er een eindheid in zit, maar ze ook weer niet allemaal hetzelfde aantrekken. Dan krijg je een soort drumband. Ze hebben alle drie een nogal uitgesproken identiteit, waar ze, terecht, aan willen vasthouden.”
http://www.esfmagazine.nl/?p=4368
Een 'offwhite kostuum", maar het hemd èn de broek zijn zwart?
Dan is het toch geen offwhite kostuum, maar alleen een offwhite jasje hooguit?
IT'S GREYSIE IT'S PARTY
Ja maar dat offwhite kostuum dan waarvan de broek zwart is.quote:
Op Ik snap er geen reet van
IT'S GREYSIE IT'S PARTY
Zwart is het nieuwe offwhitequote:
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Ja maar dat offwhite kostuum dan waarvan de broek zwart is.
Ik snap er geen reet van
Who the fuck can sleep with all this shit going on?
Ik kijkquote:Op maandag 25 april 2011 15:54 schreef Lutte het volgende:
Ze zijn nu op Ned 1 met een registratie van Akoesteren!!
County downnnnnnnn, tralalalaaaaaaaaaaa
IT'S GREYSIE IT'S PARTY
Ja he? Het luistert allemaal prettig weg.quote:
Dat liedje net dat hij zogenaamd door de telefoon zong was echt ontroerend mooi.
Hoe heet dat? Weet iemand dat?
IT'S GREYSIE IT'S PARTY
Weet je nog een regel toevallig?quote:
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Ja he? Het luistert allemaal prettig weg.
Dat liedje net dat hij zogenaamd door de telefoon zong was echt ontroerend mooi.
Hoe heet dat? Weet iemand dat?
Kan hij het niet, of...?quote:
Broerlief zit mee te spelen op zijn gitaar.
Ik zit te piekerenquote:
Maar het ging over dat het net uit was en hij alleen thuis en dat hij hoopte dat ze weer thuis zou komen. Ik ga even zoeken
IT'S GREYSIE IT'S PARTY
Ik denk dat je 'Verlangen' bedoelt.quote:
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Ik zit te piekeren
Maar het ging over dat het net uit was en hij alleen thuis en dat hij hoopte dat ze weer thuis zou komen. Ik ga even zoeken
Ja dat is hemquote:
Net even op mijn Akoesteren dvd (want die heb ik 
) gekeken en klopt!
IT'S GREYSIE IT'S PARTY
