Wie leest er nu selectief.quote:Op woensdag 16 maart 2011 12:34 schreef Voorschrift het volgende:
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Dat is ook gewoon zo, dus zo gek is dat niet.
http://www.palestine-info(...)39XW5RK8L6WpZqG58%3Dquote:NABLUS, (PIC)-- An Asian worker is suspected of the murder of the Fogel family, a settler family from Itamar settlement near the northern West Bank city of Nablus, according to Palestinian press sources. [en verder]
Met jouw metafoor móét toch even ook dit fragmentje uit Kopspijkers:quote:Op woensdag 16 maart 2011 11:20 schreef Voorschrift het volgende:
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Naar mijn idee woonden er geen Palestijnen in dat huis.
De buurman zal wel Palestijns geweest zijn, maar goed ik heb ook wel buren die ik niet zo geweldig vind, maar die snijd ik ook niet de keel door in hun slaap. Weet niet welke buurt jij woont, maar zoiets doen we hier niet.
Jij gelooft Israël dat meteen liep te blèren dat het een Palestijn was. Ik vroeg toen al waar het bewijs was. Dat hebben ze nog steeds niet.quote:
Causaliteit is het bewijs.quote:Op woensdag 16 maart 2011 12:38 schreef Disana het volgende:
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Jij gelooft Israël dat meteen liep te blèren dat het een Palestijn was. Ik vroeg toen al waar het bewijs was. Dat hebben ze nog steeds niet.
Net als ik klakkeloos dien te geloven dat die "hulpvloten naar Gaza" allemaal vredig zijn, die waar toevallig laatst wapens gevonden werden weer een paar dagen terug?quote:Op woensdag 16 maart 2011 12:40 schreef Disana het volgende:
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Welnee. Jij gelooft klakkeloos wat je wordt voorgeschoteld. Propaganda.
Blijf vooral geloven in de eerlijkheid van Israël.quote:Op woensdag 16 maart 2011 12:42 schreef Voorschrift het volgende:
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Net als ik klakkeloos dien te geloven dat die "hulpvloten naar Gaza" allemaal vredig zijn, die waar toevallig laatst wapens gevonden werden weer een paar dagen terug?
Die Palestijnen vertrouw ik zo ver als ik ze kan gooien, niet dus.
Doe ik ook, hoef jij niet voor te pleiten hoor madammeke.quote:Op woensdag 16 maart 2011 12:45 schreef Disana het volgende:
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Blijf vooral geloven in de eerlijkheid van Israël.
Blinde liefde, hoe aandoenlijk.quote:Op woensdag 16 maart 2011 12:45 schreef Voorschrift het volgende:
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Doe ik ook, hoef jij niet voor te pleiten hoor madammeke.
Liever dat dan blinde haat.quote:
Het nieuws dat het waarschijnlijk een Thai was verspreidt zich snel. Je hoeft Israël niet te haten om te weten dat ze gelogen hebben dat het een Palestijn was terwijl er zelfs nu nog geen enkel bewijs voor is.quote:
Gaap.quote:Op woensdag 16 maart 2011 12:54 schreef Disana het volgende:
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Het nieuws dat het waarschijnlijk een Thai was verspreidt zich snel. Je hoeft Israël niet te haten om te weten dat ze gelogen hebben dat het een Palestijn was terwijl er zelfs nu nog geen enkel bewijs voor is.
http://occupiedpalestine.(...)ounded-up-in-itamar/quote:Sources: Thai workers rounded up in Itamar
NABLUS (Maan) Israeli forces on Monday afternoon rounded up all Thai workers employed in the Itamar settlement, site of the murder of five members of the Fogel family, and held them for questioning, informed sources told Maan.
Though Palestinians have been forbidden from working in the settlements of the northern West Bank, foreign workers, mostly from Thailand and the Philippines, have been contracted for labor in the area.
Sources close to some of the Thai laborers said that all of the workers had been gathered and taken for questioning in relation to the stabbing deaths of a settler family on Friday night.
Israeli officials have refused comment, and statements to the media maintain that forces are searching for Palestinian militants in connection with the murders.
Meanwhile, Israeli forces detained over 300 Palestinians in Awarta in the Nablus district after imposing a three-day curfew on residents, Palestinian security officials told AFP. Two Palestinian Authority intelligence officers were amongst those detained, officials added.
The militant wings of Hamas, Islamic Jihad and Fatah have all denied involvement in the murders, with the Al-Aqsa Brigades saying Monday in a statement that they oppose the targeting of civilians and killing of children no matter what the pretext may be.
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has accused the Palestinian Authority of incitement, saying that comments against illegal Israeli settlements provoked the violent attack.
The Gaza government accused Israel of being hasty in its assumption that the killings were perpetrated by Palestinians, calling Israeli media and government spokespeople premature when they labeled the incident a terrorist attack.
Jij hebt helemaal geen bronnen.quote:Op woensdag 16 maart 2011 13:39 schreef Voorschrift het volgende:
Wat een flutbronnen kom je iedere keer mee aanzetten, wat is je volgende bron, Ahmadinejad's privé blog?
Dus als Duitser vervelend doen mogen wij Duitse gebied innemenquote:Op woensdag 16 maart 2011 11:17 schreef Voorschrift het volgende:
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En terecht, laat de Palestijnen maar te kennen leren dat dit soort geweld alleen maar leid tot meer ellende voor ze. Niet dit gedrag belonen door weg te trekken uit de Westerlijke Jordaanoever.
En hij was weg uit de threadquote:
This is the info-war.quote:highbear1 RT @dovenews: ALL TWEEPS!! Gaddafi's mercenaries are monitoring Twitter & tweeting false & misleading info, Be careful. #Libya #Gaddaficrimes
quote:http://www.guardian.co.uk(...)an-disconnect-public
In Europe, Israel has historically enjoyed a high level of support, not least because it was perceived as a progressive democracy in a sea of Arab backwardness. At the same time, most Europeans knew very little about the Israel-Palestine conflict: as recently as 2004, the Glasgow University Media Group found that only 9% of British students knew that the Israelis were the illegal occupiers of Palestinian land. Astonishingly, there were actually more people (11%) who believed that the Palestinians were occupying the territories.
However, according to a new poll by ICM for the Middle East Monitor, Europeans' perception of Israel has changed decisively, and their understanding of the Israel-Palestine conflict, while still giving some cause for concern, has improved significantly. The survey of 7,000 people in Germany, France, Spain, Italy, the Netherlands and Britain reveals only a small minority (10%) now believe their countries should support Israel rather than the Palestinians, while many more, 39%, think they should not.
This shift in European public opinion may owe something to an improved understanding of the conflict; 49% of respondents were now able to identify Israel as the occupying power. However, 22% still didn't know. This persistence of ignorance about issues that have been long established in international law may reflect media bias, or inadequate coverage of the conflict. It could also be a result of campaigns undertaken by the Israeli public relations machinery in Europe. Whatever the cause, the shift in public opinion is clearly not mainly due to the success of a pro-Palestinian lobby.
This decisive shift appears to be primarily a consequence of Israel's violation of international law, specifically its actions in Gaza, the 2010 attack on the humanitarian flotilla, its settlement expansion programme, and the construction of the separation wall.
There is, across Europe, a growing rejection of Israeli policies. Its blockade of Gaza was said to be illegal by 53% of those polled (16% thought it legal) – an appreciation of the international legal opinion that recognises the siege as a form of collective punishment and a violation of the Geneva conventions.
While it is important to note that those polled saw fault on both sides, 31% considered Palestinians to be the primary victims of the conflict, while only 6% thought Israelis the primary victims. A third of respondents believe Israel is not a democracy, while fewer than half believe it is, and most of those surveyed (65%) agree Israel does not treat all religious groups the same, compared with 13% who believe it does.
European policy on Palestine can no longer be said to reflect the values and aspirations of the people. The survey confirms a disturbing level of disconnect between public opinion and governments' actions. Whereas the EU took a decision in 2003 to place Hamas on its list of terrorist organisations and preclude it from any negotiations, 45% of those polled said it should be included in peace talks, while only 25% said it should be excluded. (A recent survey by the Institute for Jewish Policy research also found that 52% of British Jews support negotiating with Hamas for peace.)
Similarly, a clear majority of Europeans (58%) are against changing the law to make it easier for those accused of war crimes to visit Europe – a ringing indictment of governments that have either changed or are attempting to change their laws to protect Israeli war crime suspects. The Conservatives are committed to changing the law, yet only 7% of the 2,000 Britons polled would support such a change – the lowest figure in Europe.
The results of this study coincide with the epic changes engulfing the Middle East. Given the systemic discrimination by Israel against its Arab population, it is only fair to ask what the reaction would be if it was faced with mass civil protests by its Arab citizens demanding equal rights. Europe's romantic view of Israel has long been on the wane. Its 20th-century image as the battling underdog in a hostile neighbourhood has been shattered by its actions. European governments should bring their policies into line with universally accepted human values. Anything less will be a betrayal of the democratic standards Europe claims to uphold.
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