Lost (USA) #121: I have ink on my forehead?!

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Op woensdag 24 februari 2010 11:47 schreef Symer het volgende:
Nadat Jack in de gaten kreeg dat er iets vreemds was met zijn appendix hoopte ik op een wat concretere link tussen de tijdlijnen. Toen Jack het antwoordapparaat afluisterde bijvoorbeeld verwachtte ik iets waaruit zou blijken dat de Jack in Sydney niet dezelfde was als de Jack in LA.

Of met die spiegel in de vuurtoren hoopte ik dat Jack een blik zou krijgen van zijn Alt leven ofzo.

Maar niks van dat alles

Dat dacht ik dus ook: jaa nu komt het, dé link! Maar nee... En die AT is zo zinloos als er niet snel een link gelegd gaat worden.

Jacob wist natuurlijk dat de kans groot was dat Jack de spiegel kapot zou slaan als hij zijn eigen naam zou zien. Ik vraag me wel af welke naam bij 108 graden hoort.

Vond het voor de rest geen superaflevering, het is nu wachten tot de tempel aangevallen gaat worden. Zullen de losties straks tegen elkaar gaan vechten? Kamp Flocke met Claire, Sawyer, Sayid tegen Kamp Jacob met Hurley, Jin en Jack.

Dit was trouwens aflevering nummer... 108!

Maar die lijkt me totaal niet belangrijk of relevant. Het ging Jacob er meer om dat Jack zijn eigen naam zou zien.

ff tvp !

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Ik vond het een toffe aflevering! Nadat in het vorig topic werd gezegd dat de Alt Timeline over Jack zou gaan, bereidde ik mij al voor op een saaie aflevering. Maar ik vond de Alt Timeline juist best te doen, in ieder geval beter dan die van . - Kate - .

On-island was best interessant, inderdaad mooi hoe Jin eerst viste naar wat Claire allemaal te zeggen had om op het laatste moment de waarheid te zeggen en deze vervolgens weer in te slikken. En Jacob, kom eens met antwoorden i.p.v. nog meer vragen! .

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weer TVPtje met alle toffe theorieën. Hoe komt Jack aan een zoon? Daar is toch nog nooit een toespeling naar gemaakt in de normale tijdslijn? en wie zal de moeder zijn? Die blonde bimbo van ergens uit de eerste paar seizoenen (in de flashbacks had Jack toch iets met een blonde vrouw?)

Toch niet zo gek dat die zoon compleet nieuw is? Dit is een andere tijdlijn. Dingen zijn anders. Ook al voordat ze van Sydney naar LA vlogen.

En Claire? No way, José. Dat zou wel een GTST-achtige plotwending zijn.

Jack is geen pedo.

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Op woensdag 24 februari 2010 14:05 schreef Symer het volgende:
Die zoon is nieuw idd. Ik zat me ook even af te vragen of Jack misschien in de normale tijdlijn ook altijd al een (doodgezwegen) zoon had, maar Jacks grappende opmerking dat hij geen goeie vader zou zijn maakte bij mij al snel een einde aan die speculatie.

Overigens heeft Jack Sarah (blonde bimbo) niet zo heel lang voor Oceanic 815 pas ontmoet, dus ik denk niet dat zij de moeder is. Ik denk dat Claire dat is.

Vandaar Jacks verwarde blik toen zijn moeder haar naam noemde

Valt me nog mee dan dat zijn zoon geen chromosomen mist.

Omg, I love Hurley

Ok.. voor mij is dit echt de meest plausibele uitleg voor LOST die ik gevonden heb...
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Alright, from what we have seen over this new season, and from what we have accumulated from the past 6 years, we have 'assumed' that this is a story of white vs. black, good vs. evil.

This idea was introduced in the first episode of Lost, in which John Locke explains the game of backgammon to Walt. Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse have previously stated that "all the answers are in the Pilot" (referring to the first episode, not the pilot of 815 which many people previously thought they were referring to). Well, John Locke gave us our answer. Yes, there is a continuous struggle between who and what is "good" and "bad", yet in the game of backgammon, there is no good and evil, more simply, "one is light, one is dark". Lost is a game.

The characters we are introduced to and have gotten to know for 6 years are merely pieces of a game. The reason why we have the last 5 seasons of television is to show how the pieces got to their respective places on the table. The table, in this particular case, is The Island. Jacob and the Man In Black (who I will call Esau because Jacob's biblical twin was Esau and this is the name that will more than likely turn up to be for the Man in Black) are the two players, not necessarily "good vs. evil" but moreover, "light vs. dark". The color they are playing and representing doesn't have to mean light=good and dark=bad. Heck, it also doesn't have to mean light=bad and dark=good. Everyone I hear keeps asking "Who is good? Who is bad?" Well what if both have good and bad characteristics in them?

Look at Jacob. Yes, he doesn't directly kill people, yes, he supports free will and human nature, but let's look at the bad side of him. He has manipulated his "players/pieces" to come to the Island by making contact with them at certain times in their lifes. In the Season 5 Finale, "The Incident", he makes contact with each of his "candidates" by touching them at a troubling time when there life is in turmoil and their motives change, all to help push them to the Island.

Now lets look at Esau. Yes, he kills people, yes, he feels humans are naturally violent and corrupt, but there is a part of him that has "felt hate, anger, regret, betrayal, love". He, too, is a human, yet his soul has been tarnished by this game. In the game of backgammon, it can be very simple, simply moving the pieces to one side and taking the others away at the same time. Yet the stakes have been set higher, which is why we are reminded of the "Rules". These rules, from what we have heard, are that the two players cannot kill eachother. This is why Esau found a loophole, to end the other player and end the game.

Yet the reason why Jacob has candidates is because he needs someone to play in his stead, and he is trying to find someone who is similar to him, who believes in free will and his beliefs. This is what this new season is about.

Who will continue on with the game? Who's pieces will be LOST to the other player? Which pieces will be FOUND by the other player? Who will win? These are the essential questions of this season. If you have read this entire post or just want to see my closing statement well this is it: LOST is the story of a game and how the pieces were put on the table and how the game was played out. The series will end with two of these pieces replacing the "old players" of Jacob and Esau, starting an all new game that will end the show.

One is light, One is dark

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Op woensdag 24 februari 2010 14:44 schreef Pimpel2000 het volgende:
Ok.. voor mij is dit echt de meest plausibele uitleg voor LOST die ik gevonden heb...
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Alright, from what we have seen over this new season, and from what we have accumulated from the past 6 years, we have 'assumed' that this is a story of white vs. black, good vs. evil.

This idea was introduced in the first episode of Lost, in which John Locke explains the game of backgammon to Walt. Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse have previously stated that "all the answers are in the Pilot" (referring to the first episode, not the pilot of 815 which many people previously thought they were referring to). Well, John Locke gave us our answer. Yes, there is a continuous struggle between who and what is "good" and "bad", yet in the game of backgammon, there is no good and evil, more simply, "one is light, one is dark". Lost is a game.

The characters we are introduced to and have gotten to know for 6 years are merely pieces of a game. The reason why we have the last 5 seasons of television is to show how the pieces got to their respective places on the table. The table, in this particular case, is The Island. Jacob and the Man In Black (who I will call Esau because Jacob's biblical twin was Esau and this is the name that will more than likely turn up to be for the Man in Black) are the two players, not necessarily "good vs. evil" but moreover, "light vs. dark". The color they are playing and representing doesn't have to mean light=good and dark=bad. Heck, it also doesn't have to mean light=bad and dark=good. Everyone I hear keeps asking "Who is good? Who is bad?" Well what if both have good and bad characteristics in them?

Look at Jacob. Yes, he doesn't directly kill people, yes, he supports free will and human nature, but let's look at the bad side of him. He has manipulated his "players/pieces" to come to the Island by making contact with them at certain times in their lifes. In the Season 5 Finale, "The Incident", he makes contact with each of his "candidates" by touching them at a troubling time when there life is in turmoil and their motives change, all to help push them to the Island.

Now lets look at Esau. Yes, he kills people, yes, he feels humans are naturally violent and corrupt, but there is a part of him that has "felt hate, anger, regret, betrayal, love". He, too, is a human, yet his soul has been tarnished by this game. In the game of backgammon, it can be very simple, simply moving the pieces to one side and taking the others away at the same time. Yet the stakes have been set higher, which is why we are reminded of the "Rules". These rules, from what we have heard, are that the two players cannot kill eachother. This is why Esau found a loophole, to end the other player and end the game.

Yet the reason why Jacob has candidates is because he needs someone to play in his stead, and he is trying to find someone who is similar to him, who believes in free will and his beliefs. This is what this new season is about.

Who will continue on with the game? Who's pieces will be LOST to the other player? Which pieces will be FOUND by the other player? Who will win? These are the essential questions of this season. If you have read this entire post or just want to see my closing statement well this is it: LOST is the story of a game and how the pieces were put on the table and how the game was played out. The series will end with two of these pieces replacing the "old players" of Jacob and Esau, starting an all new game that will end the show.

One is light, One is dark

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