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Dutch.vrijdag 17 april 2009 @ 22:56
In order to understand the significance of the ‘communication’ that is taking place, I have to take you back in time. Once again it became clear to me this Easter weekend that the posted information in the HDDesign material is giving answers to the most profound questions in relation to the times we live in.

We go back to June 2005. At that time I had been working with the triggerdates system for more than a year as some readers might recall, based on the ‘awakenings’, ‘control’ and ‘ascension’ timeframes. Personally I don’t have a single doubt that I was ‘in tune’ with the hidden underlying patterns that would soon show these important events.

I wrote on June 10, 2005 about this triggerdate system:
“The 555 start and end triggers on the 1111 days awakenings timeframe and the 911 start and end triggers on the 1823 days 'Control' timeframe create subwindows like this:
555 start trigger - in between 6 days - 911 end trigger - in between 3 days - 911 start trigger -
in between 6 days - 555 end trigger.

creating 3 subwindows of 7 - 4 - 7 days

555 and 911 are closely related and I expect the 747 relevance will become more clear soon
IP: xxx.xxx.xx.xx | Posted on: 2005/6/10 11:40”

Using this triggersystem I was able to identify the marker-event that unveils the hidden underlying Design for this very important timeframe, an U-2 plane crash:

“A 555 start trigger event on the 1111 days awakenings timeframe around June 22, 2005:
December 15, 1997 - A chartered Tupolev TU-154 from Tajikistan crashes in the desert near Sharja, United Arab Emirates airport killing 85
yesterday June 22, 2005:
US pilot killed in U-2 crash in United Arab Emirates”

It was the start of the 7-4-7 based 16 days time coded pattern which showed the actual impact on comet Temple I on July 4, 2005 and which made me expect a 9/11 like event to occur on this specific timecoded pattern. I wrote on June 24, 2005”

“The U2 crash is a Hyperdimensionally initiated marker
in relation to a 911 related event to happen on the emerging pattern.”

And the day after ‘Deep Impact ‘ on comet Temple I, on July 5, 2005:

“July 7 is coming up as the last day on the possible 7-4-7 based timecoded pattern”.

On that day the July 7, 2005 London Bombings happened.

Back in 2005 it was already clear that this timeframe with Deep Impact is very important, I wrote “The impact on Comet Temple 1 (the first Temple ) could have undesired side effects, becoming visible as Hyperdimensionally initiated events following predictable patterns as Indications of Intelligent design."
I decided to continue monitoring it as a 7-4-7 based ongoing timecoded pattern and all related info was posted in a separate thread that can be found here ( including the quotes I am using in this post):
July 7 London Bombings 7-4-7 based timecoded pattern
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about14-hddesign.html

The ongoing 7-4-7 based timecoded pattern started with the U-2 crash and went on like this:

“7-4-7 based 16 days window:

June 22 : U2 crash
July 4: Deep Impact
July 7: London bombings

next 7-4-7 based, 16 days window

July 7: London
July 22/23: Eqypt bombings

next 7-4-7 based, 16 days window:

July 22: Egypt bombing
August 3: plane crash marker ( 3 days off as deep impact, as above..)
August 6: anticipated event"

So I expected a related event on August 6, 2005 but didn’t catch it back in 2005, we had to wait until 2009 in order to understand the event and the importance of this date August 6, 2005 as we will see later on in this post.

Prior to this timeframe I was investigating 737 crashes and as some readers might recall and when the 737 flight 522 crashed in Marathon, Greece, in the ‘heart of the 4’ of this pattern on August 14, 2005, I instantly understood the signifigance of this crash. The flight 522 crash became one of the major events in our times and it keeps on popping up in the HDDesign material, I called it THE crash marker and referred to it consistently as “running on autopilot towards a nuclear event” but its full importance will finally become clear as I will show you later on in this post.

I have written a lot about the flight 522 crash and it can be reviewed in the ‘breaking the code’ thread.

The hyper dimensional answer to Deep Impact on comet Temple I was given at the soonest possibility provided by the harmonics within our solarsystem: when the innerplanet with the shortest orbit in Earth days Mercury ‘The Messenger’ crossed its position line during Deep Impact on comet Temple I, mirroring its orbital position exactly on the opposite side of the Sun:

Its Hyper Dimensional Cube date at macro level orientation August 17, 2005. I wrote:
quote:
evidence that Katrina was probably manipulated by Hyper Dimensional energy flows, manifested on the by me pre-determined Hyper Dimensional CUBE date August 17:

Monday, September 26, 2005
"Hyperdimensional Katrina": Scientific Evidence -- NEW Rita Update! -- 7:33 PM- 9/26/05

quote:

"August 17, 2005 -- fully 12 days BEFORE Katrina hit New Orleans!!

Obviously, then, this official National Weather Service radar data CANNOT be from the landfall of Hurricane Katrina ... which didn't come ashore in southern Louisiana until the wee hours of August 29th!

In fact, here's what the official radar loop (below) of Katrina's actual landfall on the 29th

==

So, what makes the loop from the 17th -- twelve days earlier -- so unusual ...?

This!

This image (below) is the last pre-sunset GEOS visual satellite image of the Louisiana area from the same day as the New Orleans' radar "anomaly" -- August 17th.

As you can see, it reveals a few thunderstorms situated to the north and west of New Orleans the City ... but in the area northeast of the City -- where those peculiar "radar bands" are locasted in the close-up -- there are no clouds or precipitation at all!

==

Just what the hell is going on!?

Radar images on the National Weather Service NEXRAD image loops are created by transmitted radar energy (from the radar antenna) being reflected back to that same antenna, as a function of azimuth (a 360-degree position, relative to the transmitter). The NEXRAD system "refreshes" these images every 6 minutes -- revealing precipitation (rain, or hail or snow) within hundreds of miles of the antenna. Sometimes, when birds are migrating ... or insects are swarming in the Spring ... the radar system can detect echoes from objects OTHER than raindrops or snowflakes ... but that is very rare.

In this case, two highly patterned, incredibly regular, slowly-rotating "vortices" -- one northeast of New Orleans, the other to the south, and in TOTALLY CLEAR AIR! -- are reflecting strong echoes BACK to the NEXRAD antenna ... when there's NOTHING suspended in that air for the radar beam to be reflecting from!!

Totally inexplicable ... by any standard meteorological measure.

And, in case you have any remaining doubts about the truly anomalous nature of this August 17th New Orleans' radar loop, here (below) is a simultaneous infrared series of GEOS satellite images from UNISYS (a commerical weather corporation, offering National Weather Service data to its clients) of the same area ... and covering the same time period (note the time code at the top-right of the graphic).

==

Yet, the anomalous "radar bands" of August 17, 2005 persist ... centered on New Orleans.

===

Just like a giant "bulls eye" was somehow being painted on the Crescent City ... 12 days before Katrina struck.

==

That, in fact, is exactly what our "hyperdimensional model" for Hurricane Katrina is proposing: that what we are seeing in this extraordinary radar sequence ... is the standard NEXRAD radar signal being -- somehow -- reflected back from the clear air over and around New Orleans ... air which has somehow been made "radar reflective" by the application of an otherwise invisible "energy" signature ... from somewhere.

While the precise nature of this anomalous "reflection mechanism" is currently unknown -- without further information from other sensor systems -- possibilities range from "actual ionization of the air" itself (making it more electrically conductive -- and thus radar reflective), to equally anomalous "wavelike" changes in the density of the air within the rotating radar beam ....

In the HD Model, it is this "HD imprinting" of New Orleans, by this impossible (in current physics) "energy vortex signature" which ... 12 days later ... literally attracted Hurricane Katrina right to New Orleans ... exactly like a homesick homing pigeon!

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read Hoaglands update here:

link

So we have Deep Impact and the flight 522 crash. As I have outlined above, the underlying patterns also pinpointed at august 6, 2005 as a determined date that could give a related event.

That event suddenly popped up while monitoring the timeframe around March 23, 2009 ( see timeline Q1 ) . I expected a Hirhoshima-Nagasaki echo/expression for that timeframe and indeed such an event occurred, its about surviving this nuclear horror:

Elderly man officially recognized as double hibakusha

Elderly man officially recognized as double hibakusha
NAGASAKI -- A 93-year-old man who experienced atomic bombings in both Hiroshima and Nagasaki has won official recognition as a dual hibakusha.

The Nagasaki Municipal Government acknowledged on Monday that Tsutomu Yamaguchi, 93, from Nagasaki, Nagasaki Prefecture, was not only exposed to the atomic bomb in Nagasaki but also in Hiroshima, and updated his A-bomb survivor's ID. So far, only his experience in Nagasaki had been recognized.
http://mdn.mainichi.jp/md(...)2a00m0na006000c.html

a day later I found the August 6, 2005 correlation, I added to the timeline of Q1 2009:

added on the timeline:

“An Italian court has jailed a Tunisian pilot who paused to pray instead of taking emergency measures before ditching his plane, killing 16 people.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7962082.stm

NOTE THAT THIS PLANE CAME DOWN ON 'HIRHOSIMA':

The twin-engined Tuninter ATR-72 turboprop aeroplane was flying from the Italian city of Bari to the Tunisian island of Djerba on 6 August 2005, when it ran out of fuel and came down in the sea”

On the same day:

“This praying pilot was jailed with Earth at the same orbittal position as during the end of the 9/11 - Madrid bombings timecoded Phi spiral, around March 23, 2009, a timeframe which is Golden Mean Phi based connected with the atomic bombs of Hirhoshima-Nagasaki and the end of the Mayan calendar.

A Hirhoshima- Nagasaki echo was expected, which has happened with Yamaguchi becomming a double Hibakusha, just like the expected Nagasaki echo directly determined from August 9, 1945 on for July 16, 2007, the day of the Japanese Earthquake which caused the worlds biggest nuclear plant to leak .
Mercury 'The Messenger was on the same orbittal position during these 2 timeframes ( March 23, 2009 and July 16, 2007)

9/11 happened with Mars at same orbittal position as during the end of the Mayan Calendar, december 23, 2012.
December 23, 2012 - The alternative date for the completion of the thirteenth b'ak'tun cycle in the Maya calendar, using a version of the GMT-correlation based on a JDN of 584285 (a.k.a. the "astronomical" or "Lounsbury correlation"), which is supported by a smaller number of Mayanist researchers. ( from wikipedia)

With this Sicilian crash at 'Hirhoshima' August 6, 2005 as midpoint between July 17, 2007 Nagasaki echo and:

August 27, 2003 - Perihelic Opposition: Mars makes its closest approach to Earth in over 50,000 years.

'Hirhoshima' crash August 6, 2005 - December 23, 2012: Venus at same orbittal position

2696 days or exactly 12 Venus years in Earth days

next in line of thought is the same upcoming orbittal position of Venus around April 15, 2009, the same as during end of Mayan calendar and the 'Hirhoshima' crash.

That date was already on the timeline of Q2: the anniversarry of the assassination of Lincoln.

The US President at that time had ultimately decided to drop the atomic bombs on Hirhoshima and Nagasaki

Obama beware

With March 28, 2009 coming up as midpoint in Earth days between Deep Impact and the end of the Mayan Calendar ( followed by July 7 London bombings 3 days later around March 31 ), we now have a midpoint coming up in Venus years in Earth days:


April 15, 2009 Venus midpoint between 'Hirhoshima' crash - end of Mayan calendar

In Venus years in Earth days:

August 6, 2005 Hirhoshima crash - 6 Venus Years in Earthdays - April 15, 2009 Venus midpoint - 6 Venus Years in Earthdays - end of Mayan calendar”.

Followed with these profound revelations the next day:

Well,

What I’m going to tell right now should be taken very serious

This ‘Hirhoshima’ crash on August 6, 2005 in unveiling the hidden underlying Design as described in my earlier posts.

Like I said, The US President at that time had ultimately decided to drop the atomic bombs on Hirhoshima and Nagasaki.

I have posted earlier about this subject on October 15, 2007:
quote:
Monday October 15, 2007

Last week when somebody asked me about The Tunguska event and I had to think about Deep Impact on Temple I instantly. When I calculated the Phi point ( Golden Mean) I saw that it should be somewhere during WWII but not Hirhoshima-Nagasaki, because I didn't recognize the Hirhoshima/Nagasaki - Deep impact timeframe as such. As this has everything to do with consciousness, I expected that the nuclear theme would pop up somehow, probably with nuclear testing or decission making. That's what I thought just before I came to know about the exact date of the Phi point between Tunguska and Deep Impact.
I have to emphasize that I almost fell out of my chair when I noticed that this Phi point coincided with the approval by the US President to use nuclear bombs!!! ( which actually happened some days later).

I think we really have to let go our linear perspective of time and our rigid perception of causality.

We have to deal with these carmic issues indeed, but it would be a very bad idea for someone to decide to misuse nuclear power again. very bad for our destiny
On January 15 this year I added:

quote:
As posted above, we have seen this Pi expression by spacecraft Deep Impact with the Deep Impact/Epoxi - Earth - Moon Transit and the 2 comet encounters, of which an actual Impact on comet Temple I

By synchronicity I had to think about the Tunguska event.

There are 2 Pi points between the Tunguska event and the impact on comet Temple I, similar as described in a previous post .

Both Pi points show Venus at the same orbital position , the very same orbital position Venus will reach during the end of the Mayan Calendar.!

Tunguska....Deep Impact......end of Mayan calendar...Planets

[quote]I think we really have to let go our linear perspective of time and our rigid perception of causality.
This means that Tunguska has happened in the past in our perspective of time, but that in fact Tunguska was an Intelligently Designed event because of the impact on comet Temple I and because we used nuclear weapons.

This doesn't mean we will experience a Tunguska-like event on December 21, 2012.

It does mean that we shouldn't mess with space and nuclear weapons, as I have said numerous times.

Much will depend on how we will deal with the carmic issues that are coming up.

We can be taken out in a wink with a similar Solar flare as posted above, a Tunguska-like event or even a Gamma burst the kind like the one happened at the end of the 9/11 Phi- spiral, but closer at home.

It doesn't have to be that way but we have to understand our responsibilities[/quote]

Now back to the ‘Hirhoshima’ crash on August 6, 2005

We have already seen that this crash has happened with Venus at the same orbital position as during the end of the Mayan Calendar, just like the 2 Golden Mean Phi points between Tunguska and Deep Impact on comet Temple I as described above.

The ‘communication’ is ‘in the face’:

With these corresponding Venus positions, the Golden mean ratio and the relation to the Tunguska event, one might expect that this Augst 6, 2005 ‘Hirhoshima’ crash should confirm the hidden underlying Design.

And the confirmation is unmistaken, giving profound meaning:

‘Tunguska’ happened on June 30, 1908
‘Hirhoshima’ crash happened on August 6, 2005

Timeframe from June 30, 1908 ‘Tunguska’ – August 6, 2005 ‘Hirhoshima’crash:

35.466 days

Golden Mean Phi point: at day 35.466 / 2.61803399 ( Phi ) = day 13.547 from ‘Tunguska’.

Its august 2, 1945


Military Orders:

Field Orders 13 dated 2 August 1945 -- 14.9 mByte -- Orders issued by the TWENTIETH AIR FORCE to attack targets in Japan on August 6, 1945 Primary: Hiroshima Industrial Area -- Secondary: Kokura Arsenal
Report Number 8 dated - Field Orders 13 - --490 KB-- Mission Planning Summary -- Special Bombing Mission, #13 Issued by the TWENTIETH AIR FORCE GUAM -- Mission Executed: 6 August 1945 -- Details the orders for the Hiroshima Raid
Report Number 9 - Field Orders 17 - --4.31 MB-- Mission Planning Summary -- Special Bombing Mission, #16 Issued by the TWENTIETH AIR FORCE GUAM -- Mission Executed: 9 August 1945 -- Details the orders for the Nagasaki Raid

http://beserfoundation.org/archive.htm

Around April 15, 2009 Venus will take the same orbital position again
see timeline Q2 2009:
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?t=374&mforum=hddesign

2 days later I wrote:

“The 2 biggest mistakes mankind has made are the dropping of the atomic bombs and Deep Impact on comet Temple I.

I think I have written hundreds of times as the 2 major underlying themes of our times: "don't mess with nuclear power and stay out of space" or in other words.

On July 20, 1945 the US President decided to use nuclear weapons against Japan.

That was exactly at Phipoint between Tunguska and Deep Impact on comet Temple I.

This 'Hirhoshima crash' happend on August 6, 2005, creating a timeframe with the phipoint between Tunguska and this 'Hirhoshima crash' on August 2, 1945, when the military order was given to use nuclear weapons against Japan

Its unbelievable that people fail to see the signifigance of this

Tunguska and the 'Hirhoshima crash' happened on a designed moment in our perception of time, intelligently marking Hirhoshima-Nagasaki and Deep Impact.

Tunguska is a warning”.

Followed by this the next day:

“Besides this Jesus Christ's face appearing on a broken meteorite (actually or ‘conditioning’) as ‘Tunguska synchronicity’, there was another ‘confirmation’ during that same timeframe:
On March 25 it was published that for the first time, scientists have matched a meteorite found on Earth with a specific asteroid that became a fireball plunging through the sky.
Astronomers tracked a small non-threatening asteroid heading toward Earth before it became a "shooting star" - something they had not done before. It blew up in the sky and scientists thought there would be no space rocks left to examine, But a painstaking search by dozens of students through the remote Sudan desert came up with four kilograms of black jagged rocks - leftovers from the asteroid 2008 TC3.
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/(...)nce_asteroid_match_1

The symbolism of this synchronicity is clear: This is about the real origin of meteorites, this is about the real origin and meaning of the ‘Tunguska event’.

The time frame around March 28 was identified as Golden Mean Phi linked to the flight 522 crash in Marathon, Greece on August 14, 2005 and this years flight 1549 Hudson crash landing.

The flight 522 crash is one of the major events that play an important role inn this ‘Hyper Dimensional Design reasearch’, it stands for “running on autopilot towards nuclear devastation", the people onboard flight 522 were frozen to death.

The flight 1549 Hudson crash landing is showing us that we can land this plane safe with no casualties.

I expected a related event for around March 28 but of course I didn’t knew what to expect.

In a previous post I already mentioned that ‘Tunguska' happened on a designed moment in our perception of time, intelligently marking Hirhoshima-Nagasaki and Deep Impact.

Tunguska is a warning

And it is ‘Tunguska’ again that finds expression on this anticipated timeframe around March 28:

Published on March 27, Golden Mean linked to Flight 522 & 1549 crashes:

And again it is about the real origin of the ‘Tunguska event’:

Was the Tunguska Fireball a Comet Chemical Bomb?

March 27th, 2009

Over a century ago, on June 30th, 1908 a huge explosion detonated over an unpopulated region of Russia called Tunguska. It is probably one of the most enduring mysteries of this planet. What could cause such a huge explosion in the atmosphere, with the energy of a thousand Hiroshima atomic bombs, flattening a forest the area of Luxembourg and yet leaving no crater? It is little wonder that the Tunguska event has become great material for science fiction writers; how could such a huge blast, that shook the Earth's magnetic field and lit up the Northern Hemisphere skies for three days leave no crater and just a bunch of flattened, scorched trees?


http://www.universetoday.(...)comet-chemical-bomb/

The destiny of mankind is in our hands, we will keep on running towards nuclear devastation or we will crash land safe, the probability of the latter goes hand in hand to what extend we will be able to listen to ‘Tunguska’s warning’.
“Don’t mess with nuclear power ( Hirhoshima/Nagasaki) and stay out of space ( Deep impact on Tempe I )” ( end of quote )


So Tunguska happened at THE moment in order to mark the Phi point between Tunguska and Deep Impact. This phipoint marks the moment that it was decided to uses nuclear arms on Japan.

This 'Hirshosima crash' ( reread previous posts about the identification ) happened on August 6 2005, THE moment with at Phi point in between Tunguska the moment the military order to use nuclear weapons was given

So both Tunguska and the Hirhoshima crash on August 6, 2005 happened on an intelligently Designed moment in our perception of time, marking Deep Impact and the political decision and mission orders to use nuclear arms on Hirhoshima-Nagasaki.

And now the signifigance of flight 522 ‘running on autopilot towards nuclear event’ crash in Marathon, Greece, becomes clear in full force:

Tunguska and flight 522 crash are marking at Phi point:

August 6, 1945 – detonation of an atomic bomb on Hirhoshima !!!!!!

Now lets see what has happened during this Easter weekend because I expected a related event. Flight 522 was flying on autopilot with the pilots and passengers frozen to death.

Besides this emerging nuclear conflict with Korea with it space launch I noticed this on the same CNN main page when I was monitoring this timeframe ( for more related events see timeline Q2 2009 ):

From the timeline:

updated april 14-15

Report: North Korea to quit nuclear talks
http://edition.cnn.com/20(...)rea.talks/index.html
Passenger helps land plane after pilot dies
Controllers help him turn off autopilot, land plane: "The turn looks good, very good sir"
"an Easter miracle"
http://edition.cnn.com/20(...)emergency/index.html

So the warnings given by Tunguska and the August 6 and 14 2005 crashes should be understood, but the Design is also indicating that we can land this plane safe so to speak. Just like this praying pilot on August 6, 2005 or Yamaguchi becoming a double Hibakusha, the Hudson crash landing or these people experiencing this Easter miracle.

Much will depend on how we will deal with the related karmic issues that are coming up. Keep Obama alive!
Mdkvrijdag 17 april 2009 @ 23:10
Ik krijg er een beetje het gevoel bij: iets ergens bij zoeken wat maar uitkomt en het dan op die manier uitleggen dat het 'enigszins logisch' klinkt en bepaalde links leggen (en conclusies trekken) uit dingen die eigenlijk niet gelinkt kunnen worden.
Boswachtertjezondag 19 april 2009 @ 17:40
Tvp, keep it coming Dutch
sir_Tachyonmaandag 20 april 2009 @ 09:03
quote:
Op vrijdag 17 april 2009 23:10 schreef Mdk het volgende:
Ik krijg er een beetje het gevoel bij: iets ergens bij zoeken wat maar uitkomt en het dan op die manier uitleggen dat het 'enigszins logisch' klinkt en bepaalde links leggen (en conclusies trekken) uit dingen die eigenlijk niet gelinkt kunnen worden.
Dan zien we je niet weer. Groetjes.

Ga maar door Dutch, ooit zal ik het wel gaan snappen.
Dutch.dinsdag 21 april 2009 @ 09:40
Yesterday,

I had to think of the Roswell crash and decided to give it a look again.
It happened on a July 7 in 1947.
As described in the above post, July 7 is Earth's orbittal position that marked the hidden underlying timecoded pattern as outlined above.

I decided to check it as a Phi point with the Tunguska event, in addition to my previous post here.

The determined date appeared to be an August 17, 2010 , Earth's orbittal position of the Deep Impact 'answer', with this Hyper Dimensionally initiated charge up of the New Orleans area 12 days prior to the landfall of Katrina.

At this point I only took notice of the correlations between these two dates and decided to let it rest until August next year or so, or maybe sooner when it would pop up by synchronicity again.

It was already a synchronicity: I didn't have to wait long for this synchronicity because it was already there:

April 20, 2009

Former astronaut: Man not alone in universe

"mitchell, who was part of the 1971 Apollo 14 moon mission, asserted Monday that extraterrestrial life exists, and that the truth is being concealed by the U.S. and other governments."

==SNIP=

"Mitchell grew up in Roswell, New Mexico, which some UFO believers maintain was the site of a UFO crash in 1947. He said residents of his hometown "had been hushed and told not to talk about their experience by military authorities." They had been warned of "dire consequences" if they did so."

But, he claimed, they "didn't want to go to the grave with their story. They wanted to tell somebody reliable. And being a local boy and having been to the moon, they considered me reliable enough to whisper in my ear their particular story."

http://edition.cnn.com/2009/TECH/04/20/ufo.conference/index.html

So you can mark this date August 17, 2010 in your agenda for next year, I will make sure you won't miss it.

There's another synchronicity that we should be aware of and what it implicates.

Mitchell said:

"Our destiny, in my opinion, and we might as well get started with it, is [to] become a part of the planetary community. ... We should be ready to reach out beyond our planet and beyond our solar system to find out what is really going on out there."

Synchronistically:

April 20, 2009

Scientist Hawking ill in hospital
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8008767.stm

Hawking, in an exclusive CNN interview, said that if humans can survive the next 200 years and learn to live in space, then our future will be bright.

"I believe that the long-term future of the human race must be in space," said Hawking, who is almost completely paralyzed by the illness ALS.

"It will be difficult enough to avoid disaster on planet Earth in the next 100 years, let alone next thousand, or million. The human race shouldn't have all its eggs in one basket, or on one planet. Let's hope we can avoid dropping the basket until we have spread the load."

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe/10/09/hawking/index.html

I think that HDDesign indicates that both are wrong, that human consciousness should remain Earthbound and that we should be aware what we are actually doing out there in space. Obviously, to target a comet like we did with Temple I is something we are crossing a red line with.

We aren't even able to take good care of Earth as a planet with all its life forms.

We are messing around with nuclear power and don't even think about the possible consequences for other parts of our multidimensional reality, or consciousness itself.

Progress for mankind can only be achieved when we understand and learn from the ( karmic ) reality we live in, taking good care of our planet and all life forms.
Dutch.woensdag 29 april 2009 @ 13:38
“In order to understand the significance of the ‘communication’ that is taking place, I have to take you back in time. Once again it became clear to me this Easter weekend that the posted information in the HDDesign material is giving answers to the most profound questions in relation to the times we live in.

We go back to June 2005. At that time I had been working with the triggerdates system for more than a year as some readers might recall, based on the ‘awakenings’, ‘control’ and ‘ascension’ timeframes. Personally I don’t have a single doubt that I was ‘in tune’ with the hidden underlying patterns that would soon show these important events.”

That’s how I started my post on April 17 in this thread and I strongly recommend to scroll back a bit and read that post again, because the information that has been given is very profound and fundamental.

The information that I am going to give right now should be kept in mind as background information for the upcoming days ahead on the timelines. These dates are mentioned at the bottom of this post.

I talked about this 7-4-7 based timecoded pattern that was first identified on June 22, 2005 with the ‘U2 crash’ that made me expect a 9/11 related event on the emerging timecoded pattern. That’s how July 7, 2005 was identified as explained in that previous post.

Its this synchronicity that made me realize that we are still ‘in tune’:

Three cleared of aiding London bombers
A jury Tuesday acquitted three men of charges that they helped the bombers who carried out the July 7, 2005, attacks on the London transportation system.
http://edition.cnn.com/20(...).bombings/index.html

White House apologizes for low-flying plane
http://edition.cnn.com/2009/US/04/27/low.flying.plane/index.html

NEW YORK (Reuters) - One of President Barack Obama's official planes ( Dutch: a 747) flanked by an Air Force fighter jet flew low over the Statue of Liberty on Monday for a photo opportunity that reminded startled New Yorkers of the September 11 attacks.


So back in 2005 this 7-4-7 based timecoded pattern was marked with the U2 crash and the July 7 London bombings, with full force.
Finding expression again in our current times with Barack’s 747 flying low in New York causing panic coinciding with the three cleared of aiding the July 7, 2005 London bombers.

The underlying timecoded pattern indicates that the U2 crash marker on June 22, 2005 should have found expression again on April 13, 2009 and has already been identified with the previous post I’m referring to:

I wrote:

“Passenger helps land plane after pilot dies
Controllers help him turn off autopilot, land plane: "The turn looks good, very good sir"
"an Easter miracle"
April 13,2009
http://edition.cnn.com/20(...)emergency/index.html

So the warnings given by Tunguska and the August 6 and 14 2005 crashes should be understood, but the Design is also indicating that we can land this plane safe so to speak. Just like this praying pilot on August 6, 2005 or Yamaguchi becoming a double Hibakusha, the Hudson crash landing or these people experiencing this Easter miracle.”

So what we are seeing here are similar marker events, although subtle expressed, as back in 2005, with much symbolical intent and hidden meaning.

On April 20 I posted these 2 pictures on HDDesign forum:

Hyper Dimensional Tetrahedron at macrolevel orientation around April 21-22, 2009:





I posted these pictures after an intuitive thought that came to mind out of nowhere a few days earlier ( April 18th) , I had to think about Pearl Harbor ( ‘let it happen’) and the timeframe between Hirhoshima/Nagasaki and the end of the Mayan Calendar. That timeframe puts ‘Pearl Harbor’ on the Hyper Dimensional Tetrahedron timeframe around April 21-22, 2009 so I decided to post these picture although I didn’t had any ideas how it would fit or what it meant.

It appears that I was still ‘in tune’:

April 21, 2009 is comparable to July 1, 2005 on this specific timecoded pattern.

I wrote on June 27, 2005: “July 1, 2005 is the last time during the current timeframe that Pearl Harbor / 'lett it happen' is on the triggerdates. “

There’s 1 date left on this 7-4-7 based timecoded pattern: April 18, 2009 and I think its disturbing that the swine flu reached the macrolevel around that date:

"The outbreak, which Mexican authorities began reporting April 18, is being investigated by public health officials throughout North America."

Remember that Pearl harbour stands for ‘let it happen’ in this HDDesign research.

So this 9/11 – London bombing synchronicity on April 27, 2009 seems to be an important marker. I decided to check the Phi and Pi points.

Phi point between 9/11 and April 27, 2009 = August 9, 2004

Thats Earth’s orbital position during Nagasaki

On that day:

August 9, 2004 : At the Mihama Nuclear Power Plant, a pipe leaking hot water and steam kills 5 and injures 6 others, in the 2nd worst nuclear disaster in Japan.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mihama_Nuclear_Power_Plant
The Pi point gives one of the major underlying themes in the HDDesign ‘research’:

The killing of Rafik Hariri on February 14, 2005

So this info should be kept in mind while monitoring these upcoming keydates:

As outlined above, the ‘Hirhoshima crash’ on August 6, 2005 and the flight 522 crash on August 14, 2005 play an important role in the ‘comunication’ that is taking place, aswell as the Hyper Dimensional ‘imprint’ on New Orleans on August 17, 2005

These dates are corresponding in our times with these dates: around May 27, June 4 and June 7.

These dates had already found their ways to the timelines, I had already identified them as key timeframes and put them on the timeline for Q2 2009( without explanation, I will elaborate later on the meaning of this Tacoma Narrows Bridge collapse):

May 28, 2009 - 'collapse of The Tacoma Narrows Bridge'
YouTube:


June 6, 2009 - Venus at same orbital position as during the assassination of Rafik Hariri and Earth at same orbital position as during the Venus Transit of June 6, 2012

So keep an eye on the timeline for more correlations
Q2 2009 Timeline, April, May and June 2009
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about374-hddesign.html
sir_Tachyonwoensdag 29 april 2009 @ 14:20
@Dutch,
Had je nog een datum die te maken heeft met deze gebeurtenis:
http://www.nu.nl/algemeen(...)t-air-force-one.html
Neutrinowoensdag 29 april 2009 @ 21:16
Kondratieff, Martin Armstrong hadden gelijk.. Carl Jung daarintegen zag de boodschap maar begreep het verkeerd. Synchronicity klopt niet daar het onderhevig is aan interpretatie.

We zijn allemaal een product van onze generatie.

maar goed.. na hier een leuke troll neergezet te hebben kom ik er toch een stukje op terug..

Leuk Synchronicity leesmateriaal: http://www.scribd.com/doc/13067208/911-in-Synchronicity

[ Bericht 83% gewijzigd door Neutrino op 30-04-2009 00:09:37 ]
Dutch.woensdag 29 april 2009 @ 22:27
quote:
Op woensdag 29 april 2009 14:20 schreef sir_Tachyon het volgende:
@Dutch,
Had je nog een datum die te maken heeft met deze gebeurtenis:
http://www.nu.nl/algemeen(...)t-air-force-one.html
Uh... dat is het key event in mijn bovenstaande post
quote:
White House apologizes for low-flying plane
[url=http://edition.cnn.com/2009/US/04/27/low.flying.plane/index.html
]http://edition.cnn.com/2009/US/04/27/low.flying.plane/index.html[/quote][/url]
Dutch.woensdag 29 april 2009 @ 22:50
and the confirmation is there:

Generals held in Hariri killing walk free
http://edition.cnn.com/20(...).released/index.html
Waris7donderdag 30 april 2009 @ 16:30
Dutch, het verbaast me dat je niets had voorspeld m.b.t. de gebeurtenissen vanmiddag in Apeldoorn. Of had je dat wel, maar heb ik er overheen gelezen? Zo ja, quote dan alsjeblieft iets waaruit dat duidelijk wordt.
Dutch.donderdag 30 april 2009 @ 22:28
Denk je dat ik helderziend ben of zo?

Toen ik zat te kijken vanmiddag en hoorde dat de dader een autochtone man was moest ik gelijk aan Pim Fortuyn denken. Ik ging gelijk de omloop posities bepalen en Mercurius 'de boodschapper' staat op precies dezelfde omloop positie als tijdens de moord op Pim

29 * 87.6961 = 2551 dagen

6 mei 2002 - 30 april 2009 = 2551 dagen
Waris7donderdag 30 april 2009 @ 22:35
quote:
Op donderdag 30 april 2009 22:28 schreef Dutch. het volgende:
Denk je dat ik helderziend ben of zo?

Toen ik zat te kijken vanmiddag en hoorde dat de dader een autochtone man was moest ik gelijk aan Pim Fortuyn denken. Ik ging gelijk de omloop posities bepalen en Mercurius 'de boodschapper' staat op precies dezelfde omloop positie als tijdens de moord op Pim

29 * 87.6961 = 2551 dagen

6 mei 2002 - 30 april 2009 = 2551 dagen
Ik dacht, het zou kunnen dat je had berekend dat er rond deze tijd 'iets' had moeten gebeuren ofzo, zonder dat je dan ook per se hoefde te weten wat dat was.
Dutch.donderdag 30 april 2009 @ 22:51
Nou, dit is wel de jaarlijks terugkerend 13 daagse 'satanische' periode, die start op 19 april en duurt tot 1 mei. dus zo'n waanzinnige daad past wel in deze periode.
Ik had echter geen idee dat dit er aan kwam, ik bedoel waar heeft het dan mee te maken? Neemt niet weg dat deze verschrikkelijke daad een 'marker' kan zijn op ontluikende tijdsgecodeerde patronen.
Ik het het in ieder geval opgenomen in het materiaal over de '911 gebaseerde Phi spiraal' Fortuyn - Van Gogh en verwacht wel meer inzichten later
Neutrinodonderdag 30 april 2009 @ 23:18
quote:
Op donderdag 30 april 2009 22:28 schreef Dutch. het volgende:
Denk je dat ik helderziend ben of zo?

Toen ik zat te kijken vanmiddag en hoorde dat de dader een autochtone man was moest ik gelijk aan Pim Fortuyn denken. Ik ging gelijk de omloop posities bepalen en Mercurius 'de boodschapper' staat op precies dezelfde omloop positie als tijdens de moord op Pim

29 * 87.6961 = 2551 dagen

6 mei 2002 - 30 april 2009 = 2551 dagen
Je zou je theorie moeten automatiseren. Dwz. Een applicatie het wiskudige model geven en die laten zoeken naar synchroniciteit. Aangezien al het nieuws tegenwoordig op het internet staat zou je veel sneller goede positives er uit halen.
Dutch.vrijdag 1 mei 2009 @ 07:11
Nou, je hebt wel menselijk bewustzijn nodig om 'af te stemmen' op de verborgen onderliggende patronen.

Het gaat niet om het eindeloos zoeken naar gebeurtenissen en patronen, wat een programma zou doen, maar het detecteren via de intuitie en het herkennen van de synchroniteiten wanneer die gebeuren.

Een computer kan dat niet
Dancin_Rhinovrijdag 1 mei 2009 @ 10:38
dit gaat echt nergens over
Dutch.zaterdag 2 mei 2009 @ 12:44
quote:
Toen ik zat te kijken vanmiddag en hoorde dat de dader een autochtone man was moest ik gelijk aan Pim Fortuyn denken. Ik ging gelijk de omloop posities bepalen en Mercurius 'de boodschapper' staat op precies dezelfde omloop positie als tijdens de moord op Pim
wat ook dezelfde positie is voor Mercurius op 6 maart 1901( dus deze aanslag en de plaatsing van de naald ook op deze zelfde omloop positie):
quote:
De Naald is een obelisk aan de Zwolseweg in Apeldoorn, een monument dat geplaatst werd op 9 maart 1901. Het was een cadeau van de inwoners van Apeldoorn aan het bruidspaar koningin Wilhelmina en prins Hendrik. Tegelijkertijd was het een eerbetoon aan de ouders van koningin Wilhelmina, koning Willem III en koningin Emma.
http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Naald_(Apeldoorn)

zoals uit voorgaande postings blijkt is deze tijd erg gefocussed op 9/11 en de London bombings

Eeen lezer plaatste dit bericht op HDDesign forum:
quote:
what do you think on that? (taken from GLP):

5/1/2009
- 1394.5 days =

7/7/2005 (7-7) UK London bombings-terrorist attack
- 1394.5 days =

9/11/2001 (9-11) US terrorist attack
- 1394.5 days =

11/17/1997 (Luxor Massacre) Egypt terrorist attack
Dutch.zaterdag 2 mei 2009 @ 22:37
In feite hou ik wel de omloop posities in de gaten op het moment van het einde van de 911 gebaseerde Phi spiraal in onze samenleving EN de positie van Venus tov van de moord op Pim, zoals bijvoorbeeld blijkt uit onderstaande post:
quote:
This should really make you think, I wrote this week:

[quote]Note that on February 10, 2009 Venus is on the same orbittal position as during the assassinantion of Pim Fortuyn:

May 6, 2002 - February 10, 2009 = 2.472 days

or 11 * 224.68 = 2.472 days rounded

Venus at same orbittal position

see related thread: 911 based Phi spiral in Dutch society
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?t=87&mforum=hddesign

keep an eye on the timeline too:
Q1 2009 timeline , January - February - March
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?t=368&mforum=hddesign

Oh yes.......

and the first innerplanet has arrived at the same orbittal position as during the end of this 911 based Phi spiral:

November 14, 2008 - February 10, 2009 = 88 days

Mercury 'The Messenger' at same orbittal position again!

So Venus and Mercury are at the same orbital positions as during the start and the end of this monitored 911 based Phi spiral. The identified underlying themes are expressed in our reality.
The next inner planet to arrive at the same postion again would be Venus, right?

One would expect related expressions on that day

We talk about June 27, 2009

and here it is already:

Announcement on HD Cube at macrolevel:

personal belongings Pim Fortuyn are to be sold on......June 27, 2009!

14 feb 2009

Persoonlijk bezit Fortuyn geveild

ROTTERDAM - De persoonlijke bezittingen van Pim Fortuyn komen onder de hamer. De spullen van de in 2002 vermoorde politicus worden op 27 juni geveild bij veilinghuis Hessink's in Nijmegen. Dat heeft Hans den Hartog, een van de twee eigenaren van het voormalige woonhuis van Fortuyn in Rotterdam, zaterdag gezegd.
http://www.telegraaf.nl/b(...)eveild__.html?p=14,1

I want to emphasize again that during upcoming timeframe around March 23, Earth will arrive at same orbital position as during the end of the 9/11 - Madrid spiral ( that was around March 23, 2008 ).

I talk about the same ' geometrical' correlations as identified in relation to this 911 based Phi spiral in Dutch society, only this time it will be Earth on the same orbital position instead of Mercury or Venus.

I think we can learn alot during this timeframe around March 23, 2009[/quote]

De aanslag in Apeldoorn gebeurde dus op Mercurius tov de moord op Pim.
Dutch.donderdag 7 mei 2009 @ 21:39
Note that the monument is called 'de naald'. It was a wedding present from the people of Apeldoorn to queen Wilhelmina and prince Hendrik. It was also in hounour to the parents of Wilhelmina: King Willem III of Orange and queen Emma. At the day Wilhelmina and Hendrik got married, the monument wasn't finished yet ( february 7, 1901 ).

This monument 'de naald' is VERY royal

The monument was placed on March 9, 1901
http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Naald_(Apeldoorn)

With Mercury 'The Messenger' at the very same orbital position of this 'royal attack'! ( +/- 1 day )

March 9, 1901 - April 30, 2009 = 39.499 days

449 Mercury years is 449 * 87.9691 = 39.498

and as a result at the same position of the assassination of the 'would have been Prime Minister if not....' Pim Fortuyn.

Remember we are dealing here with 'Srebrenica karma'

These are the patterns on which the 'security issues for Obama' also have occured.


Srebrenica karma indeed, expressed on May 6


With Earth at same orbital position as during the assassination of Pim Fortuyn:


in Dutch:


Bewijsstukken Srebrenica vernietigd

BELGRADO/SARAJEVO - Het Joegoslavië-Tribunaal in Den Haag heeft zo'n duizend bewijsstukken uit massagraven rond Srebrenica vernietigd. Dat zei hoofdaanklager Serge Brammertz van het tribunaal woensdag ( may 6 / Dutch ) in Sarajevo tegen leden van de organisatie Moeders van de enclaves Srebrenica en Zepa.


http://www.telegraaf.nl/b(...)nietigd__.html?p=9,1


in English:


ICTY Destroyed Some Srebrenica Materials

Wednesday, May 6, 2009

The Prosecution at the International War Crimes Tribunal has confirmed that it destroyed some materials discovered in the graves of murdered Srebrenica residents.
http://eurasia.ro/?p=24697
Neutrinovrijdag 8 mei 2009 @ 03:57
synchroniciteit

Order in the Chaos - Synchronicity through Fractals

I have been wasting my life on this forum writing stuff nobody cares about. And now I come to the conclusion that you, Dutch, already have been filling that job. So I apologize for doing your job. I'll stop doing it and go back to my trolling life of fun and mockery.

But seriously.. I do hope you find your way in life. I have been searching for 30 years and still found shit. If this synchronicity stuff is doing it for you, keep doing the thing you do.
Dutch.zaterdag 9 mei 2009 @ 22:41
za 09 mei 2009

Jomanda niet bij rechtszaak wegens 'zorgen'

UTRECHT - Jomanda komt maandag niet naar de zitting waar zij terechtstaat in de zaak van de in 2001 overleden actrice en presentatrice Sylvia Millecam. „Het tijdstip baart cliënte zorgen”, maakte haar advocaat Luc Benistant zaterdag bekend.

De advocaat stelt dat Jomanda geen angst voor de zitting heeft en bereid is op een andere datum te verschijnen.

Waarschuwing

Volgens hem zei ze Pim Fortuyn twee weken voor zijn dood een bodyguard te nemen en waarschuwde ze in de weken voor Koninginnedag in Apeldoorn dat er grote problemen op die dag waren te verwachten. „Op dit moment speelt in haar beleving een soortgelijk probleem komende week, waardoor zij zich niet in staat acht te komen.”

http://www.telegraaf.nl/b(...)ldoorn___.html?p=4,1
Fortune_Cookiezaterdag 9 mei 2009 @ 22:50
Reuze interessant TS. HELEMAAL GELEZEN!!!
Keep 'em coming!

Neutrinozaterdag 16 mei 2009 @ 02:53
Global currency crisis is looming as the IMF is about to dump 400 tones of gold on the gold market.

With Mercury 'The mystery' at the very same weird position of this coming event! ( +/- 2.00 degrees retrograde)

June 14, 1931 - August 20, 2009 = 69.799 mercury days

+/- 70 Mercury days is 1414 * 87.9691 degrees in Terrestris days = 71.498 days
Some mystical calculations happing here due to higher dimensional calculations

Get out of gold while you can! The dollar is going to crash in August. The IMF will try and save the US market by forcing people back into the dollar, dumping their own gold supply.

The current calculations for the planet Mars point to the start of WO3 in September / October. There are some big problems coming this way. Buy food for 6 months to survive the coming war. (This war starts with the discovery of a new man made mutation of the Mexican flu.) I will post mystery calculations supporting these scary claims. You can also buy my newsletter for only $146 a day. PM me if you are interested. Only a limited amount of people are allowed to receive the latest news. The rest may suffer and die
Neutrinozondag 17 mei 2009 @ 03:26
The economy is going down. The Federal reserve’s solution is to lower the interest rates and start printing lots and lots of money. This money is then used to keep bad companies that are too big fail from going bankrupt, resulting in problems with solvable or healthy companies. Usually government will try to uses taxes as a means to get more money not wanting to raise the deficit. This money is coming from healthy companies because bad companies are already funded by government to stay alive. Inflation goes up because of excess liquidity.

Inflation lowers the deficit solving the governments insane spending program. The stock market goes up due to inflationary mechanisms. Eventually inflation starts hurting the normal economy, resulting in more companies going bankrupt. The only solution is to raise interest rates trying to lower inflation. The problem is that it increases the deficit because it weakens the bond market. America not being able to control the inflation and having a deteriorating economy finally results in a world war 3.

Oil producing countries want to get rid of the dollar because oil is sold or bought with dollars. A worthless dollar is not a currency you want to use when buying and selling oil.
Wanting to switch to another more stable currency like the Euro will give the final blow to America’s economy. The only solution will be to start a war. It will drive the oil prices to new heights causing a demand in (oil) dollars solving the inflation problem. It will allows the government to stay and spend lots and lots of money on CITI, BAC or GM.

But hey.. we’ve seen a similar collapse of the economy in other countries when using quantitative easing.


Using dumb synchronicity math wont help predicting this event. You have to know what is happing around the world to see the future. My calculations don’t mean shit. If you still like Dutch his spam topic, delete this useful information. The war will come whether you like it or not.


Forgive me for my stupid grammar mistakes
Dutch.dinsdag 19 mei 2009 @ 11:20
So on September 23, 2008 I added this date to the timeline:

May 17-18, 2009 - Phipoint between Venus Transits, Hyper Dimensional Cube date at macrolevel orientation

Later that day I added the underlying theme that I expected would find expression on may 17-18, 2009:

theme added for May 18, 2009

'schoolshootings'

Posted: 23 Sep 2008 01:19 pm

http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?p=7004&mforum=hddesign#7004

This expectation on September 23, 2008 was base don a schoolshooting in Finland that occured that day, I wrote:
quote:
[quote]or in other words:

there's the same timeframe between the 2 most significant schoolshootings and the Venus Passages of our times:

Columbine Highschool massacre - Venus Transit 2004

and

Virginia Tech massacre - Venus Transit 2012
popping up: 3 days off again

Todays schoolshooting in Finland on September 23, 2008:

- 7 Venus years in Eart days 3 days prior to Venus Transit of June 8, 2004

+ 6 Venus years in Earth days gives 3 days prior to the Venus Transit of June 6, 2012

September 23, 2008 -/- 2 Venus years in Earth days gives 3 days after Phi point between the 2 Venus transits!

the above is based on Phipoint between the Venus Transits going outwards.

There's another ( of 2 in total) Phipoint going inwards: May 18, 2009

the awakenings endtriggerdate of May 18, 2009 = November 24, 2010

Todays schoolshooting is with Mercury The Messenger at same position:

September 23, 2008 - November 24, 2010 = 792

or 9 mercury years in Earth days

9 times 87.9691= 792 days[/quote]

http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?p=7005&mforum=hddesign#7005

So on September 23, 2008 I already posted the expectation of a schoolshooting for May 18, 2009.

from the timeline Q2 2009:

updated May 18

expected 'schoolshooting':

Louisiana School Shooting: Student Shoots Himself In The Head After Firing At Teacher
http://www.huffingtonpost(...)ooting_n_204704.html

Journal indicates gunman may have had bigger plans

Monday, May 18, 2009

LAROSE, La. ― The 15-year-old 8th grader who fired a shot into a ceiling at Larose-Cut Off Middle School before turning the gun on himself may have had more ambitious plans that were detailed in a loose-leaf journal found inside his backpack.

Lafourche Parish Sheriff Craig Webre said a backpack found at the scene contained a journal that included writings about how he was going to kill people and a diagram of the area he was planning to occupy.

The student wrote in the journal that he planned to go to art class and then excuse himself to go to the bathroom, where he would “gear up” before heading to the back of the main building and into the first classroom to begin his attack.

At the end of the note, Webre said the student wrote, “I am King. F--- you all. All will die.”

The student’s parents told Webre they had no indication that their child had any issues, telling the Sheriff he had not been a discipline problem at the school.

The gunman was dressed in an AC/DC Highway to Hell T-shirt and, despite the elaborate plans in the journal, was armed only with a lone gun and four bullets, two of which were used in the school.

Also in the journal was a drawing of the gunman in camouflage pants, which he apparently changed into before going into the classroom.

Authorities have not released the name of the student, who attended Larose-Cut Off.

Webre said the student brought a .25-caliber semiautomatic handgun to the school, where he walked into an English class taught by a teacher he had never had before.

According to three students who were in the English class, the 15-year-old walked in before 9:20 a.m., ordered everyone down on their knees and told the teacher to bow to Marilyn Manson.

Webre said the student first pointed the gun at a whiteboard before pulling the trigger. The gun failed to go off, though, and he pointed the gun at the teacher before he fired a shot into the ceiling.

The shooter then called a fellow student by name to come with him, but the student didn’t follow and the shooter immediately left the classroom, heading for a boys bathroom where he shot himself in the head.

Students at Larose-Cut Off were escorted out of the classrooms with their hands over their heads as a security precaution, Webre said.

They were taken to a safe location where school board officials said crisis counselors would be available to help them.

The shooter has been taken to a second hospital where he is listed in stable but critical condition as of Monday night.

Webre said the school has more than 500 students and that parents are asked to call the VFW Hall to arrange for pickup of their children.

According to the Associated Press, the middle school has metal detectors but they weren't in use.
http://www.wwltv.com/tops(...)lshoot.164081cb.html

I wrote on December 13, 2007:

“I have been keeping an eye on these odd shootings, ever since Columbine. I have noticed that most of these high profile shootings ( not only in the US, its a global issue) are connected with other high profile shootings with Earth's 'evil twin' Venus at exactly the same geometrical position. like exactly 2, 3, 6 or 8, 9, 13 Venus years in earth days in between. It could very well be that these shootings will eventually fit somekind of a Grand design as it seems to me that the correlations are incomplete. It could very well be that future moments of potential shooting rampages can be determined. If so, a more subtle expression of the underlying theme could become possible, as long as we understand the 'communication' that is taking place.”

So this guy told the teacher to bow to Marilyn Manson

I have seen that before
quote:
Matthew Murray was kicked out of a missionary training program five years ago for strange behavior, and talked about hearing voices, according to a man who served at the center with him.

Murray was the gunman who killed two people at the Youth With A Mission center on Sunday and two others at a Colorado Springs megachurch later that day, police said. He was shot by a church security guard and died of his wounds.

Richard Werner, 34, said Monday he was a worker at the center in Arvada, Colorado, in 2002, the same time as Murray.

He said Murray was told in December 2002 he would not be allowed to join a mission trip to Bosnia. That was five days after Murray performed a pair of dark rock songs at a concert at the mission that made fellow workers "pretty scared," according to Werner.

The performance -- which included a song by rock band Linkin Park and another that had been recorded by controversial rocker Marilyn Manson -- followed months of strange behavior, Werner said.
from:
Colorado gunman scared co-workers 5 years ago, one says
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/12/10/shooter.youth/index.html

Marilyn Manson appeared as himself in Michael Moore's political documentary Bowling for Columbine discussing the motivations of the perpetrators and allegations that his music was somehow a factor.

Bowling for Columbine

Bowling for Columbine is a controversial Academy Award-winning documentary film written, directed, produced by, and starring Michael Moore.

The film explores what Moore suggests are the causes for the Columbine High School massacre and other acts of violence with guns. Moore focuses on the background and environment in which the massacre took place, and some common public opinions and assumptions about related issues. The film looks into the nature of violence in the United States, focusing on guns as a symbol of both American freedom and its self-destruction.

In Moore's discussions with various people, including South Park co-creator Matt Stone, the National Rifle Association's then-president Charlton Heston, and musician Marilyn Manson, he seeks to explain why the Columbine massacre occurred and why the United States has a higher number of violent crimes — especially crimes involving guns — and he charges that the occurrence of violent crimes in the U.S. is relatively higher than other developed nations.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowling_for_Columbine

I reposted related events in a separate thread in the HDDesign material in July 2007 and I’m monitoring and posting related events and correlations based on hidden underlying Design in this separate thread called ‘(school)shootings’ and you can find it here:
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about274-hddesign.html

First post of the thread:

“So what do these schoolshootings have to tell us? Personally, I was touched by these ultimate 'dark expressions' of consciousness, emerging in our reality intelligently linked if the triggersystems based on the 'awakenings' - , 'ascension' - and 'control' timeframes are applied.

The most important thing that must be clear about these shootings is that it seems there's no direct manipulation with mindcontrol by TPTB as some suggest on the internet. I mean, it isn't only happening in the US, it's also happening in Canada and Germany, intelligently linked on the patterns.

These people who commit such crimes seem to have the proper mindset and circumstances to expres in our reality what seems to have to come out one way or the other. The events are related, at least that's what the Design seems to imply, but we cannot blame the Colorado shooter to be responsible for the shooting in Germany.

It's a consciousness thing.

We should seriously ask ourselves the question what these shootings really mean and what they mean to us personally in terms of responsibilities”
Dutch.dinsdag 19 mei 2009 @ 11:22
from the HDDesign material:



"
during memorial ceremony in Apeldoorn

no candle for Karst

Isn't he just giving expression?


of what lies beneath

to much to cope with for most


just after the ceremony, another victim died of injuries

Those candles are short of truth"

Karst was holding the mirror:


19 mei 2009

CZ hekelt spiritueel medium RIJSWIJK - Zorgverzekeraar CZ gaat de Vereniging van Natuurgeneeskundig Therapeuten (VNT) om opheldering vragen over het spiritueel medium Gabriela Gaastra. Aanleiding zijn uitspraken van haar over de aanslag op Koninginnedag in Apeldoorn.
http://www.telegraaf.nl/b(...)_medium__.html?p=5,1

Geschreven door Gabriela Gaastra-Levin
2009 mei
Openbaring n.a. van Koninginnedag 2009.
Doorgegeven via Gabriela Gaastra-Levin.
2 mei 2009.
Gidsrol van Nederland zal vanaf dit moment sterk gaan toenemen.
Maria Magdalena, Jezus en Maria: “Lieve mensen, naar aanleiding van de gebeurtenissen tijdens Koninginnedag 2009 voelen we ons geroepen om een bijdrage te leveren aan jullie verwerkingsproces door de spirituele betekenis van deze dag onder de aandacht te brengen. Er vallen vele facetten te belichten.”
De rol van Mededogen.
Maria Magdalena, Jezus en Maria: “Voordat wij ons focussen op de gebeurtenissen in Apeldoorn is het goed om een en ander vanuit de spirituele invalshoek in te leiden. Zo is het sleutelwoord dat de betekenis van deze Koninginnedag aangeeft ‘Mededogen’. Mededogen is een hartskwaliteit die ontstaat wanneer jullie je hart kunnen openen naar een niveau van liefde dat zich boven goed en kwaad bevindt. De hartskwaliteit ‘Mededogen’ werd in het collectieve bewustzijn van de mensheid geactiveerd toen Jezus 2000 jaar geleden gekruisigd werd. Het proces dat Jezus tijdens zijn eigen kruisiging onderging was om boven goed en kwaad uit te stijgen. Door dit te doen, opende hij zijn hart naar de dimensie van mededogen en onvoorwaardelijke liefde. Hij opende zijn hart om contact te maken met een niveau van eenheidsbewustzijn dat boven goed en kwaad, boven de Aardse dualiteit, uitgaat en dat als zodanig een uitdrukking is van de scheppingskracht van God.
Jullie mensen zijn, net zoals Jezus, ook een manifestatie van God, dragen deze scheppingskracht eveneens in jezelf en passen deze toe in je leven als mensen. Jullie scheppen je eigen werkelijkheid, soms bewust en soms onbewust. Wanneer bijvoorbeeld grote gebeurtenissen in de wereld, zoals een natuurramp, een oorlog of een aanslag, op hogere niveaus van jullie eigen bewustzijn geschapen worden, is je Aardse persoonlijkheid daar soms minder van bewust, maar is deze daar wel degelijk op eigen wijze bij betrokken. Het lijkt je te overkomen, het lijkt van buiten te konen, maar op zielsniveau ben je weldegelijk bij deze Schepping betrokken.”

Het Christusbewustzijn en het kwade.
Maria Magdalena, Jezus en Maria: “Om de dramatische gebeurtenissen van Koninginnedag 2009 in Apeldoorn vanuit een spiritueel perspectief beter te begrijpen, willen we eerst ook nog jullie aandacht vragen voor het Christusbewustzijn. Het Christusbewustzijn is het bewustzijn dat ontstaat wanneer jullie, als mensen, je hart openen naar onvoorwaardelijke liefde en mededogen en wel nádat jullie in een levenssituatie geconfronteerd zijn geweest met een vraagstuk van ‘goed en kwaad’. Jullie relatie met ‘goed en kwaad’ heeft door de eeuwen heen steeds verschillende vormen aangenomen. Er is een tijd geweest, zo’n tienduizend jaar geleden, dat jullie nog bewust met jullie Goddelijke bron in contact waren. Jullie ervoeren toen een vorm van eenheidsbewustzijn dat niet verankerd was in jullie leven als mens. Het had nog niet de beproevingen van het duale Aardse leven ondergaan, een leven waarin goed en kwaad als gewenste en ongewenste ervaringen aanwezig zijn. Het was nog niet verankerd in onvoorwaardelijke liefde en het Christusbewustzijn in jullie hart was nog niet ontwaakt. Later hebben jullie de extreme kanten van het Aardse leven volledig verkend en zijn jullie de dualiteit van ‘goed en kwaad’ volop gaan ervaren. En dat nu heeft jullie geholpen om met alle aspecten van het Aardse leven om te gaan en zo je verschillende levens als mens vorm te geven.
Tot nu toe heeft de confrontatie tussen goed en kwaad jullie gestimuleerd in jullie bewustzijnsontwikkeling. Daar komt echter verandering in. Jullie willen niet meer groeien door je simpelweg van het kwade af te wenden, zoals jullie in vorige eeuwen plachten te doen, maar door steeds bewuster contact te maken met een overkoepelende liefdeskracht die zich boven goed en kwaad bevindt. De eenwordingskracht van het hart stijgt dan ook steeds meer boven het intellect uit, dat nog functioneert op basis van de tweedeling van goed en kwaad. De waarde van het ‘kwade’ is om jullie te prikkelen om je met deze dimensie van eenwording en eenheidsbewustzijn te verbinden. Als gevolg van stress en emotionele spanning die het zogenaamd kwade in jullie persoonlijkheid teweegbrengt, is jullie hartopening naar de liefde des te krachtiger, omdat jullie je dan als van nature geroepen voelen om contact te maken met een groter geheel, met een overkoepelend bewustzijn.
Het Christusbewustzijn is dan ook het bewustzijn dat ontstaat wanneer jullie, door de Aardse moeilijkheden heen, in staat zijn om je hart te openen naar onvoorwaardelijke liefde en eenheidsbewustzijn. Het Christusbewustzijn ontwaakt door al je menselijke levenservaringen heen, totdat jullie individueel en collectief in staat zijn om het volledig en onder alle omstandigheden te ervaren. Dit is het bewustzijn dat wij, Maria Magdalena, Jezus en Maria, als spirituele krachten permanent ervaren. Dat is een staat van zijn waar ook jullie voor gekozen hebben om te bereiken. Al jullie menselijke ervaringen, en dus ook de ogenschijnlijk kwade, brengen jullie uiteindelijk tot het openen van je hart en het ontwaken van het Christusbewustzijn.”

De relatie van volk en Koningshuis.
Maria Magdalena, Jezus en Maria: “Nu naar de aanslag op het Koningshuis in Apeldoorn op 30 april 2009. Dit incident heeft een belangrijke rol gespeeld bij het openen van het hart en het ontwaken van eenheidsbewustzijn in heel Nederland. De dag begon op een feestelijke manier met een openhartige ontmoeting tussen de Koninklijke familie en het Nederlandse volk dat op dat moment in Apeldoorn vertegenwoordigd was. Er heerste een gevoel van saamhorigheid en eenheid vanuit vreugde onder alle aanwezigen. Dat sloeg uiteindelijk om in een gevoel van saamhorigheid en eenheid op basis van verdriet.
De Koninklijke familie vertegenwoordigt in wezen het hogere bewustzijn, het Hogere Zelf van het land. Nederland heeft, in de loop van haar geschiedenis, gekozen om aan een specifieke groep mensen, die in een familieconstellatie met elkaar verbonden zijn, deze taak toe te vertrouwen. De Oranjes staan symbool voor vrijheid, voor overvloed, voor leiderschap en voor de hogere waarden van het land.De Koninklijke familie functioneert daarbij als een spiegel waarin jullie, als Nederlanders, naar jezelf kunnen kijken als een stimulans voor het ontwikkelen van Hemelse en Aardse waarden . Bij deze spiegelfunctie, zowel op maatschappelijk als op individueel niveau, spelen de kwaliteiten, vaardigheden en beperkingen van de Oranjes een belangrijke rol en dan met name hoe ze hun kwaliteiten en vaardigheden voor de gemeenschap en voor individuen inzetten en de manier waarop ze met hun beperkingen omgaan. De manier waarop de Oranjes hun voorbeeldfunctie vervullen heeft invloed op de bewustzijnsontwikkeling van de bevolking.
Jullie kunnen het Nederlandse volk in dit verband vergelijken met de Aardse persoonlijkheid van de mens die permanent bezig is om het hart en het Aardse leven met elkaar te verbinden. Het is een voortdurende zoektocht naar het ontdekken van de eigen Goddelijkheid in het dagelijks bestaan als mens. De relatie tussen het Nederlandse volk en haar Koningshuis is dan ook in wezen een weerspiegeling van de relatie tussen jullie persoonlijkheid en jullie Hogere Zelf.”

Aanslag heeft karakter van collectief inwijdingsritueel.
Maria Magdalena, Jezus en Maria: “Tot 30 april 2009 heeft de hedendaagse relatie tussen de Koninklijke familie en het Nederlandse volk, in deze fase van haar geschiedenis, een wat vanzelfsprekend en naïef karakter gekend. De huidige relatie was niet verankerd in de Aardse beproevingen die ontstaan wanneer jullie als mensen met het kwade geconfronteerd worden. Het was niet verankerd in mededogen en in het Christusbewustzijn van jullie hart. Het gebeuren tijdens Koninginnedag is dan ook van grote spirituele betekenis. Het heeft het karakter van een collectief inwijdingsritueel. Alle betrokkenen, en ook de plek waar de confrontatie plaatsvond, laten iets zien van jullie collectieve ontwikkelingsproces.”

De rol van de gewonden en gestorvenen.
Maria Magdalena, Jezus en Maria: “Er vond een confrontatie plaats tussen een man in de rol van dader, die voor het uitvoeren van een kwalijke daad stond, namelijk het plegen van een aanslag op het Koningshuis. Hij wilde met zijn auto op hoge snelheid de bus van de Koninklijke familie aanrijden, terwijl de familieleden, als potentiële slachtoffers, zich in volledige gemoedsrust aan het contact met het volk overgaven.
Het volk vormde daarbij een menselijk schild dat met gevaar voor eigen leven de Koninklijke familie redde. De betrokken mensen die gewond raakten of hun leven hebben gegeven om de Oranjes te redden, hebben vanuit historisch perspectief de rol van ‘Ridders’ gespeeld. Weliswaar niet met een zwaard, maar met hun Zijn hebben ze de Koninklijke familie voor groot onheil behoed. Ze stonden, op zielsniveau, voor het Hogere Zelf van het land en voor de waarde van de relatie tussen het Nederlandse volk en haar Koningshuis. Tegelijkertijd hebben ze het mogelijk gemaakt dat het Nederlandse volk kan groeien in haar leiderschapsrol; een rol die zowel belangrijk is voor Nederland zelf, als voor de gehele wereld.
Deze dappere mensen, zowel de gewonden als zij die hun Aardse leven voor deze essentiële groei van Nederland hebben gegeven, zijn ware ‘Ridders in de Orde van Oranje-Nassau’. Hoewel hun persoonlijkheid mogelijk niet bewust was van hun spirituele keuze, zijn ze vanuit hun ziel en hun Hogere Zelf daarvoor gaan staan. Op die manier hebben ze een bijdrage geleverd aan niet alleen de ontwikkeling van Nederland, maar aan die van de gehele wereld. Het verzoek van de overledenen aan jullie, vanuit de spirituele dimensie, is dat jullie je over hun nabestaanden ontfermen, zowel materieel, psycho-emotioneel als spiritueel, om de taken die ze zelf niet hebben afgerond tot voltooiing te kunnen brengen. Het is hun wens dat hun nabestaanden in de liefde van het volk mogen worden opgenomen en dat ze troost mogen vinden in de erkenning van de waarde van hun offer.
De direct betrokken burgers, die niet gewond zijn geraakt of zijn gestorven, spelen ook een belangrijke functie. Ze hebben danwel niet de fysieke, maar wel de energetische en psycho-emotionele impact van de aanval opgevangen. Door hun ervaring met andere mensen te delen, brengen ze anderen in direct contact met deze confrontatie tussen ‘goed en kwaad’, een confrontatie die ze zelf intens meegemaakt hebben. Op deze manier verspreiden ze de invloed van deze ervaring in het collectieve bewustzijn, in eerste instantie van Nederland, maar uiteindelijk van de hele wereld. Dit verdiept en versnelt jullie individuele en collectieve verwerkingsproces. Deze betrokkenen hebben zich op zielsniveau beschikbaar gesteld om deze rol uit te voeren en daar zijn we ze, evenals de gestorven en gewonde slachtoffers, heel dankbaar voor.
Mogelijk is het voor hen en ook voor jullie nog niet helemaal duidelijk wat de functie en de betekenis van deze ervaring in de eigen spirituele ontwikkeling kan zijn. Daar zullen alle betrokkenen echter, naarmate het verwerkingsproces zich verder ontvouwt, zich steeds bewuster van worden.”

De rol van de dader.
Maria Magdalena, Jezus en Maria: “De persoon in de rol van de dader heeft, hoe ongewenst zijn gedrag vanuit menselijke optiek bezien ook is geweest, vanuit het spirituele ook een bijdrage geleverd aan het ontwaken van het Christusbewustzijn van het Nederlandse volk en van het Koningshuis en heeft zo ook hun onderlinge relatie verstevigd. Net zoals Judas een rol gespeeld heeft in de kruisiging van Jezus, en pas 2000 jaar later gerehabiliteerd werd, zal de rol van deze persoon in de toekomst mogelijk ook vanuit het hart bezien kunnen worden. Dan pas zal het proces, dat tijdens de afgelopen Koninginnedag in gang is gezet, tot voltooiing komen.”

Leylijnen, De Naald en voorouders.
Maria Magdalena, Jezus en Maria: “Er zijn nog een aantal opmerkelijke zaken te noemen. Zo fungeert Apeldoorn al eeuwenlang als de traditionele basis van het Koningshuis in Nederland. Daarnaast is het kruispunt (Loolaan, Amersfoortseweg, Jachtlaan en Zwolseweg), waar de aanslag zich voltrok, bijzonder en wel door de leylijnen die hier over de Aarde lopen en elkaar kruisen. Leylijnen zijn banen die positieve energie over de Aarde vervoeren. In vroeger tijden bouwden de mensen bewust heiligdommen en kerken op deze krachtplaatsen. Leylijnen maken de verbinding tussen Hemel en Aarde manifest.
Op dit kruispunt van wegen staat ook een monument, door jullie ‘De Naald’ genoemd. Het werd door de bevolking van Apeldoorn aan koningin Wilhemina en prins Hendrik cadeau gedaan als een eerbetoon aan haar ouders. Dit monument staat spiritueel gezien voor de verbinding tussen Hemel en Aarde, een verbinding die de essentie van het menselijke leven vormt. In de Naald krijgt deze verbinding vorm door de erkenning van de Koninklijke familie door het volk. En passant wordt bij de onthulling van De Naald ook de onderlinge relatie van volk en Koningshuis erkend en tevens hoe deze verbinding bijdraagt aan de groei en bewustwording van het volk en Koninklijke familie. De auto van de dader kwam, na de afwering door het menselijke schild ter bescherming van de Koninklijke familie, tot stilstand tegen ‘De Naald’. Dit was geen toeval. Het voorval symboliseert de wil van het Nederlandse volk om voor zijn verbinding met het Koningshuis te gaan staan ter bevordering van de relatie tussen persoonlijkheid en Hogere Zelf. Ook de voorouders van de huidige Koninklijke familie waren bij deze historische gebeurtenis betrokken. Koningin Wilhelmina door de functie van de aan haar geschonken Naald bij de aanslag.En Koningin Juliana omdat die dag haar honderdste verjaardag zou worden gevierd.”

Nieuwe fase in relatie volk en Koningshuis.
Maria Magdalena, Jezus en Maria: “Wat betreft de huidige relatie tussen het Nederlandse volk en het Koningshuis hebben jullie het tot 30 april 2009 niet nodig gehad om werkelijk voor deze relatie te gaan staan. Echter het bewust hier voor kiezen, maakt dat jullie de verantwoordelijkheid zelf kunnen nemen voor het leiderschap en de waarden die het Koningshuis tot nu hoog heeft gehouden. Dit symboliseert ook een nieuw begin in deze relatie die nu een wat meer volwassen vorm kan gaan aannemen. Een vorm waarin de interactie tussen het volk en de Koninklijke familie een meer intense samenwerking voor wederzijds groei en ontwikkeling kan krijgen. Het volk ontdekt nieuwe mogelijkheden in de relatie met deze familie, zoals de inspiratie die de Oranjes aan allerlei maatschappelijke processen kunnen geven. En de Koninklijke familie wordt zich bewuster van de stimulerende functie die men voor de ontwikkeling van het volk kan hebben. Daarnaast maken de Oranjes zich ook sterk voor een voorbeeldfunctie van het Nederlandse volk in de wereld. Dat geeft Nederland de mogelijkheid om een leidende rol in de wereld te kunnen nemen bij het openen van het hart en het bewust ervaren van jullie Goddelijkheid als mensen op Aarde. Deze gidsrol van Nederland zal vanaf dit moment sterk gaan toenemen. Dit komt in het bijzonder naar voren bij het integreren van eenheidsbewustzijn en individueel bewustzijn op maatschappelijk niveau. De mogelijkheid om een verbinding te leggen tussen beide niveaus van bewustzijn vertaalt zich concreet op allerlei maatschappelijke terreinen, zoals onderwijs, kunst, cultuur, sport, wetenschap, gezondheidszorg, milieu, politiek en spiritualiteit.”

Een nieuw tijdperk voor het Nederlandse volk.
Maria Magdalena, Jezus en Maria: “Met deze ervaring tijdens Koninginnedag 2009 begint een nieuw tijdperk voor het Nederlandse volk. Een tijdperk van betrokkenheid en zelfbewustzijn waarin jullie als individuele mensen en als land nadrukkelijker voor de kracht en de liefde van het hart gaan staan. Het besef dat je Schepper bent van je eigen leven, en daarvoor ook de verantwoordelijkheid wilt nemen, zal groeien. Zo zullen jullie steeds meer voor mededogen en voor het ontwaken van het Christusbewustzijn in je hart gaan staan.
Wij, Maria Magdalena, Jezus en Maria, staan ook altijd voor jullie klaar om jullie hierbij te ondersteunen. Aarzel niet om ons voor elke vorm van hulp te vragen die jullie voor je eigen ontwikkeling nodig hebben. In liefde en verbondenheid zegenen we jullie om het diepe verlangen van je hart in dit leven te kunnen realiseren, Maria Magdalena, Jezus en Maria.”

(Gabriela ontving deze openbaring van de meesters op zaterdag 2 mei)

http://deblauwelotus.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=668&Itemid=160

[ Bericht 99% gewijzigd door Dutch. op 19-05-2009 13:12:52 ]
Dutch.vrijdag 29 mei 2009 @ 11:17
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the markers are set.

October 9, 2006

May 25, 2009

I expected a correlation with July 15, 2007 (+/- 1 day ), the pre-determined and expected 'Hirhoshima-Nagasaki Echo' timeframe.

As I posted years before 2007: July 12 and 15, 2007 ( +/- 1 day) were determined directly from Hirhoshima on August 6, 1945 and Nagasaki on August 9, 1945. Expressing the difference between the theoretical Hyper Dimensional Design of the precession cycle and our perception of time.
I determined this difference in a duration in Earth days that placed this expected Hirhoshima-Nagasaki echo in the timeframe around July 12-15, 2007 ( +/- 1 day).

When that day came ( July 16, 2007 ) a strong Earthquake struck Japan, coinciding with a powerfull Typhon, causing the worlds biggest nuclear plant to leak.

I wrote:
“How would you express a Hirhoshima - Nagasaki echo without dropping another fat boy on Japan?

powerful typhoon, strong earthquake, nuclear leak”.

I decided to calculate the timeframes between these 2 Korean nuclear tests and this Nagasaki echo on July 15, 2007 ( +/- 1 day):

October 9, 2006 – July 16, 2007 = 280 days

July 15, 2007 – May 25, 2009 = 680 days

I expected that these timeframes would unveil the hidden underlying Design of these nuclear tests. July 15-16, 2007 isn’t a phi point between these 2 Korean nuclear test but if you look at these timeframes 280 and 680 they seem to pinpoint at 480. That was the first thought after I noticed it wasn’t a Phi point.

I checked it and it appeared that day 480 is exactly the midpoint between these 2 Korean nuclear tests, corresponding with the timeframe around January 31, 2008.

Earlier we have seen the correlations between the Tunguska event and the use of nuclear weapons ( Hiroshima – Nagasaki ) as explained in previous posts.
The timeframe around January 31, 2008 was already on the timeline of Q1 2008 and the events that were monitored are ‘in the face’:

From the timeline Q1 2008, 2 ‘Tunguska’ events around that timeframe :

Near-Earth Asteroid 2007 TU24 To Pass Close To Past Earth On Jan 29
http://www.spacedaily.com(...)h_On_Jan_29_999.html

and

Space Rock Misses Mars, Barely ( January 30, 2008 )
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/080130-mars-miss.html

I noticed these correlations yesterday May 28, 2009 and the ‘Tunguska’ confirmation popped up by synchronicity:

RUSSIAN SCIENTIST: UFO CRASHED INTO METEORITE TO SAVE EARTH

Did a UFO deliberately crash into a meteor to save Earth 100 years ago? That's what one Russian scientist is claiming.
Dr. Yuri Labvin, president of the Tunguska Spatial Phenomenon Foundation, insists that an alien spacecraft sacrificed itself to prevent a gigantic meteor from slamming into the planet above Siberia on June 30, 1908.
The result was was the Tunguska event, a massive blast estimated at 15 megatons that downed 80 million trees over nearly 100 square miles. Eyewitnesses reported a bright light and a huge shock wave, but the area was so sparsely populated no one was killed.
Most scientists think the blast was caused by a meteorite exploding several miles above the surface. But Labvin thinks quartz slabs with strange markings found at the site are remnants of an alien control panel, which fell to the ground after the UFO slammed into the giant rock.
"We don't have any technologies that can print such kind of drawings on crystals," Labvin told the Macedonian International News Agency. "We also found ferrum silicate that can not be produced anywhere, except in space."
http://www.foxnews.com/st(...)html?test=latestnews

I posted the collapse of the ‘Tacoma Narrows Bridge’ on the timeline for around May 28, 2009 because it marks the timeframe between the collapse and the opening of this bridge, which was on the timeline for the period around January 20-21, 2009.

From the timeline Q1 2009:
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January 20-21, 2009 - Inauguration Barack Obama.Flight 522 crash ('running on auto pilot towards nuclear event'): 1666 Ascension starttrigger day555 starttrigger on a 1111 days awakeningstimeframe around January 20, 2009 is July 16, 2007: Nagasaki 'echo'
[quote] For last year on July 12 or 15 (+/- 1 day ), 2007 I had determined a direct echo for Hirhoshima - Nagasaki, already posted in this HDDesign material years ago, years prior to the timeframe. This echo was based on the theoretical long term cycle based on the 911/Tetrahedron Design, causing a 'difference' between our 'actual' percecption of time and based on the elements as described in the 'breaking the code' thread. This is not a running pattern with several recurring keydates, its a direct link between for instance Nagasaki on August 9, 1945 and July 15, 2007 (+/- 1day), based on the precession cycle as described in this HDDesign. When that day came, a strong Earthquake struck Japan, coinciding with a powerful typhon, causing the worlds biggest nuclear plant to leak. There's no better way to express this Nagasaki echo without throwing another fatman on Japan.
on the Awakeningstriggers: 'Opening of The Tacoma Narrows Bridge[/quote]

So the new Tacoma Narrows Bridge opened during the Nagasaki echo timeframe around July 15, 2007
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The new bridge opened July 15, 2007.
Tacoma Narrows Bridge
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacoma_Narrows_Bridge

So now we are arrived in the midst of this Korean Nuclear crisis, coinciding qua timing with the collapse of the Narrows bridge which stand for a turning point in Baracks Presidency. This IS a test for the Obama administration.

We should take notice of Tunguska’s ‘warning’.

It is possible to ‘create’ our reality more subtle. What is potentially there, doen’t have to materialize at full force. But what is a subtle expression when we have to deal with this Hiroshima – Nagasaki karma?
Maybe the ‘collapse’ of the Obama administration is to be considered a subtle expression of the underlying karmic themes we HAVE to deal with, who knows. A nuclear conflict certainly isn’t.
We ALL have a responsibility in this because the greater the awareness, the more subtle reality becomes.
Neutrinovrijdag 29 mei 2009 @ 15:23
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synchronicity
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Synchronicity is the experience of two or more events which are causally unrelated occurring together in a supposedly meaningful manner. In order to count as synchronicity, the events should be unlikely to occur together by chance.

The concept does not question, or compete with, the notion of causality. Instead, it maintains that just as events may be grouped by cause, they may also be grouped by their meaning. Since meaning is a complex mental construction, subject to conscious and subconscious influence, not every correlation in the grouping of events by meaning needs to have an explanation in terms of cause and effect.

Looking at it from a scientific point of view:
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A possible explanation for Jung's perception that the laws of probability seemed to be violated with some coincidences[7] can be seen in Littlewood's law.

In psychology and cognitive science, confirmation bias is a tendency to search for or interpret new information in a way that confirms one's preconceptions and avoids information and interpretations which contradict prior beliefs. It is a type of cognitive bias and represents an error of inductive inference, or as a form of selection bias toward confirmation of the hypothesis under study or disconfirmation of an alternative hypothesis. Confirmation bias is of interest in the teaching of critical thinking, as the skill is misused if rigorous critical scrutiny is applied only to evidence challenging a preconceived idea but not to evidence supporting it.[8]

Wolfgang Pauli, a scientist who in his professional life was severely critical of confirmation bias, made some effort to investigate the phenomenon, coauthoring a paper with Jung on the subject. Some of the evidence that Pauli cited was that ideas which occurred in his dreams would have synchronous analogs in later correspondence with distant collaborators.[9]
http://blogcritics.org/cu(...)s-and-synchronicity/
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Littlewood's Law of Miracles:

states that in the course of any normal person's life, miracles happen at a rate of roughly one per month. The proof of the law is simple. During the time that we are awake and actively engaged in living our lives, roughly for eight hours each day, we see and hear things happening at a rate of about one per second.

So the total number of events that happen to us is about thirty thousand per day, or about a million per month. With few exceptions, these events are not miracles because they are insignificant. The chance of a miracle is about one per million events. Therefore we should expect about one miracle to happen, on the average, every month. Broch tells stories of some amazing coincidences that happened to him and his friends, all of them easily explained as consequences of Littlewood's Law ...

The human brain is evolved to spot patterns, not the absence of patterns. Hence, we see and note coincidences, but not occasions where no coincidence exists.
Looking at the given evidence I want to recommend the following book:

The complete idiot's guide to theories of the universe
quote:
In very simple terms, synchronicity is very similar to coincidence
So here you have it.. Dutch is randomly bullshiting this topic.
Neutrinovrijdag 29 mei 2009 @ 16:20
quote:
January 20-21, 2009 - Inauguration Barack Obama.

Flight 522 crash ('running on auto pilot towards nuclear event'): 1666 Ascension starttrigger day555 starttrigger on a 1111 days awakeningstimeframe around January 20, 2009 is July 16, 2007:

Nagasaki 'echo'

For last year on July 12 or 15 (+/- 1 day ), 2007 I had determined a direct echo for Hirhoshima - Nagasaki, already posted in this HDDesign material years ago, years prior to the timeframe.

This echo was based on the theoretical long term cycle based on the 911/Tetrahedron Design, causing a 'difference' between our 'actual' percecption of time and based on the elements as described in the 'breaking the code' thread. This is not a running pattern with several recurring keydates, its a direct link between for instance Nagasaki on August 9, 1945 and July 15, 2007 (+/- 1day), based on the precession cycle as described in this HDDesign.

When that day came, a strong Earthquake struck Japan, coinciding with a powerful typhon, causing the worlds biggest nuclear plant to leak. There's no better way to express this Nagasaki echo without throwing another fatman on Japan.

6.3 | Sun, Jul 15, 2007 11:27 am CEST | 55 km (kilometers) E of Longana, Penama, Vanuatu
6.0 | Sun, Jul 15, 2007 11:27 am CEST | 65 km (kilometers) E of Longana, Penama, Vanuatu
6.0 | Sun, Jul 15, 2007 03:08 pm CEST | 61 km (kilometers) E of Nikolski, Alaska, United States
quote:
July 18, 2007
KASHIWAZAKI, Japan - A top power company official defended safety standards at an earthquake-ravaged nuclear plant Wednesday, even as the company said a radioactive leak was bigger than first reported and the mayor ordered the plant be shut down until its safety could be confirmed.
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In 2004, five workers at the Mihama nuclear plant in western Japan were killed and six were injured after a corroded pipe ruptured and sprayed plant workers with boiling water and steam. The accident was the nation’s worst at a nuclear facility.
quote:
JAKARTA, 14 June 2007 - A man who slaughtered chickens and then ate them has died of bird flu according to a health official on Thursday. This case would bring the human death toll in Indonesia to 80. Suharda Ningrum, a representative from the bird flu center from the Health Ministry, said that the man died last Tuesday. The man was admitted to a hospital in Pekanbaru last Monday.
Its so easy to prove random events are connected to other random events. There is more news than one would need for predictions.

[ Bericht 0% gewijzigd door Neutrino op 29-05-2009 16:29:07 ]
Dutch.vrijdag 29 mei 2009 @ 19:57
be my guest,

You are disregarding the fact that i expected a Nagasaki echo for July 15, 2007 already years prior to the fact
Dutch.vrijdag 29 mei 2009 @ 19:59
Satellite spots activity at North Korean missile site, officials say

-- U.S. satellite imagery has spotted "vehicle activity" at a North Korean ballistic missile site, two Defense Department officials said Friday.

http://edition.cnn.com/20(...)a.missile/index.html
Dutch.dinsdag 9 juni 2009 @ 16:21
quote:
In order to understand the significance of the ‘communication’ that is taking place, I have to take you back in time. Once again it became clear to me this Easter weekend that the posted information in the HDDesign material is giving answers to the most profound questions in relation to the times we live in.

We go back to June 2005.....
That's how I started a sequence of messages in April that I now recommend to reread.

Its about the events around Deep Impact on comet Temple I on July 4, 2005 that are part of the 'communication' that is taking place, finding an echo in our current timeframe as explained in previous posts.

This echo made me expect a related event to the August 6, 2005 'Hiroshima plane crash' around May 28, 2009.

The related event came through around Nagasaki so to speak, with the flight 447 crash on June 1, 2009

As said before, the 2 biggest mistakes of mankind in our times are the Impact on comet Temple I and the use of nuclear weapons

like I said numerous times:"stay out of space and don't mess with nuclear power.

You have to reread these messages.....

by synchronicity my attention was drawn again to the desintegration of spaceshuttle Columbia on Februari 1, 2003

desintegration of Columbia....... flight 447 crash......

'communication' is taking place...

at Phi point between desintegration of spaceshuttle Columbia and the flight 447 crash:

Deep Impact on comet Temple I

February 1, 2003 - June 1, 2009 = 2.313 days

Phi-point 'outwards': 2.313 / 2.61803399 = 883.5 days = July 4, 2005 Deep Impact on comet Temple I

That's Phipoint 'outwards'

There's also a Phi point 'inwards' between desintegration of spaceshuttle Columbia and flight 447 crash:

2.313 / 1.61803399 = 1.429 days from desintegration of Columbia gives December 31, 2006

marking Earth's orbital position of the Earth fly by of space craft Deep Imapct after its mission to comet Temple I

not once, but 3 years in a row!! ,

Earth fly-by of spacecraft Deep Impact

December 31, 2007 Also creating a Hyper Dimensional Tetrahedron with Deep Impact on comet Temple I
December 30, 2008
December 29, 2009



from Nasa epoxi mission ( extended Deep Impact mission )
http://epoxi.umd.edu/
picture adjusted by Goro at Etemenanki
http://www.goroadachi.com/etemenanki/

spaceshuttle Columbia and flight 447 are taken out by Design
Dutch.dinsdag 16 juni 2009 @ 22:45
So this man- controlled Deep Impact on comet Temple I at Phi point 'outwards' is marked by this disintegration on re-entry of space shuttle Columbia and flight 447 crash, with earth's orbital position of the Deep Impact Earth fly by's ( 3 times in a row) at Phi point 'inwards' as we have seen in previous messages.


Had to think of another disintegration on re-entry out of space, the man-controlled re-entry of space station MIR ( peace ) on March 23, 2001

With flight 447 crash as marker, determines re-entry of MIR at Phi point with February 29, 1996 as the other marker.

February 29, 1996:

A Boeing 737 flying for Faucett Airlines in route from Lima to Rodriguez Ballon airport crashes into a mountain near Arequipa; all 123 people on board are killed

Faucett Flight 251

Faucett Flight 251 was a flight that crashed on February 29, 1996, while on approach to Rodriguez Ballon Airport in Arequipa, Peru. The airplane was a Boeing 737-222, registration OB-1451, built in 1968. All 123 people on board died in the accident: 2 Canadians, 42 Chileans, 3 Belgians, 2 Bolivians, 1 Brazilian, 1 Argentinian and 72 Peruvians.

The accident was a controlled flight into terrain: the aircraft was flow into the ground while attempting to land.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faucett_Flight_251

Controlled flight into terrain

Controlled flight into terrain (CFIT) describes a collision whereby an airworthy aircraft, under pilot control, inadvertently flies into terrain, an obstacle, or water. The term was developed by engineers at Boeing in the late 1970s.[citation needed] The pilots are generally unaware of the danger until it is too late.

In civil and especially in private aviation, CFIT may be humorously referred to as the result of "rock-filled clouds" or "cumulogranite" (a portmanteau of the terms cumulus, or "cloud", and granite) when it is caused by terrain being obscured by clouds.[1] It is sometimes described as "the act of flying a perfectly good aircraft into the ground."

Pilots with any level of experience, even highly experienced professionals, may commit CFIT. Pilot fatigue, loss of situational awareness, or disorientation may play a role. The incidents often involve a collision with significantly raised terrain such as hills or mountains, and may occur in conditions of clouds or otherwise reduced visibility. CFIT often occurs during aircraft descent to landing, near an airport.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controlled_flight_into_terrain

That was at Phi point 'outwards'

There's also a Phi point 'inwards' ofcourse and wouldn't it be somekind of a 'confirmation' of the hidden underlying Design if this Phi point was marked with a plane crash aswel?

We talk about May 9, 2004

American Eagle Flight 5401 was a flight between Eugenio María de Hostos Airport in Mayagüez, Puerto Rico (an insular area of the United States) and Luis Muñoz Marín International Airport in San Juan.

On the afternoon of May 9, 2004, Executive Airlines (doing business as American Eagle) Flight 5401, an Avions de Transport Regional 72-212, ATR-72 airplane (registered as N438AT) took off from Mayagüez and completed a normal flight to San Juan.

Upon landing, the aircraft skipped once, bounced hard twice, and then crashed at Luis Muñoz Marín International Airport, San Juan, Puerto Rico. The airplane came to a complete stop on a grassy area about 217 feet left of the runway 8 centerline and about 4,317 feet beyond the runway threshold. The captain was seriously injured; the first officer, 2 flight attendants, and 16 of the 22 passengers received minor injuries; and the remaining 6 passengers received no injuries. The captain was the most seriously injured onboard. As it turned out, a team of city rescuers was practicing on the beach located one block away from the airport, and they ran to the scene as soon as the airplane crashed, perhaps helping to save some lives. The airport's fire rescue team also helped in the operation.

Most of the injured were taken either to Carolina area hospitals, or to Centro Médico, in Río Piedras.

The National Transportation Safety Board determined that the cause of the accident was the captain's failure to recover from the bounced landing and his subsequent failure to execute a go-around.

American Eagle Flight 5401
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Eagle_flight_1450
Dutch.donderdag 25 juni 2009 @ 16:19
I want to talk about the Tunguska Event and the Roswell crash again.

I already showed to you that if the Roswell crash is at Phipoint on a timeline marked by the Tunguska Event, than the other marker would be August 23, 2010. I will monitor that date very closely and it will be added to the timeline of Q3 2010.

That's with the Roswell crash at Phi point 'outwards':

Tunguska June 30, 1908 - Roswell crash July 7, 1947 = 14.251 days

14.251 * Phi 1.61803399 = 23.058

Roswell crash July 7, 1947 - August 23, 2010 = 23.058 days


There's ofcourse also a marker with the Roswell crash at Phi point 'inwards'.

That marker is determined as August 17, 1971 ( +/- 1 day as usual):

Tunguska June 30, 1908 - Roswell crash July 7, 1947 = 14.251 days

14.251 / 1.6180339 = 8.807 days

Roswell crash July 7, 1947 - August 17, 1971 = 8.807 days

The 'communication' in relation to Tunguska and Roswell in our reality is Intelligently marked by Mercury 'The Messenger':

Tunguska - Rowell = 14.251 days
August 17, 1971 - August 23, 2010 = 14.251 days

162 Mercury Years of 87.9691 Earth days is 14.251 days

Mercury 'The Messenger' at same orbital position.

In line with Tunguska and Roswell I expected to find somekind of extra-terrestrial 'confirmation around August 17, 1971 (+/-1 day)

The Black Manta Ray U.F.O.
(Incident at Crow Creek August, 1971)
Abductee; John R. Renz Ex-Airman U.S.A.F. 1971.

In 1971 I was in the U.S. Air Force stationed at Francis E. Warren Air Force Base in Cheyenne, Wyoming. At that time I was just an E-2. In the month of August an event took place that changed my life forever. An event that I kept a closely guarded secret for just over 30 years until I couldn't handle the psychological anguish that came with it. I will not elaborate on all details. I will keep the names of certain individuals out to protect them. The ones that helped me.

August 16, 1971 was on a Monday......
read on:
http://www.iwasabducted.c(...)ve1/messages/84.html

with more details:
http://www.iwasabducted.com/vidimagic/part1.htm

and part 2

http://www.iwasabducted.com/vidimagic/part2.htm




August 23, 2010 - Contact
Boswachtertjedonderdag 25 juni 2009 @ 20:20
Hej Dutch, by any chance are you familiar with this topic on ATS? It's called Timewave Zero - Countdown to Transition
Perhaps there's some overlap or something usefull in it..
Dutch.vrijdag 26 juni 2009 @ 13:14
It was in the early morning of January 31, 2006 that I turned on the radio and heard the voice of John Lennon coming out of the speakers.
In a 'flash' of sudden insight I 'felt' that Michael Jackson's life was at stake, also in a sense of what has happened with John Lennon.

Later that day I posted in the HDDesign material:
quote:
Michael Jackson beware, with John Lennon in mind

IP: 84.233.190.130 | Posted on: 1/31 13:19:30
It was the first and only 'out of the blue' insight of this kind posted in the HDDesign material.

A few weeks later on March 1, 2006 Johnny Jackson was found dead with a stab wound to his chest . Johnny Jackson was a musician, noted for being the drummer for The Jackson 5 from their early Gary, Indiana days until the end of their famed career at Motown.

The label presented Jackson and keyboardist Ronnie Rancifer as the cousins of Jackie, Tito, Jermaine, Marlon, Michael, but neither Johnny Jackson nor Rancifer are directly related to the Jacksons.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Jackson

The synchronicity I am going to share with you now is unmistaken and 'confirming' the deepest essence of this hidden underlying Design in our reality as unveiled by this HDDesign 'research':

Yesterday, unaware of what was about to happen with Michael, I determined August 23, 2010 as a marker in relation to Tunguska - Roswell
based on a Phipoint. I posted this picture from '2010 - the year we make contact' in the HDDesign material and on several other forums.
quote:
2010 is a 1984 science fiction film released by MGM and directed by Peter Hyams. Its full title is given on posters and DVD releases as 2010: The Year We Make Contact, although the subtitle does not appear in the film itself. It is based on the novel 2010: Odyssey Two by Arthur C. Clarke. The film, like the novel, is a sequel to 2001: A Space Odyssey.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_(film)

When I heard about Michael's death this morning I had to think about this 'vision' back in January 2006 again and I decided to look it up in the HDDesign material, so I read about Johnny Jackson's death again.

I decided to give the timing of Johnny Jackson's death and Michael Jackson's death a closer look and determined the Phi point:

March 1, 2006 - June 25, 2009 = 1212 days

Phi point: 1212 / 1.61803399 = at 749 days =

March 19, 2008

Writer Arthur C Clarke dies at 90
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_C._Clarke

Michaels death is confirming the signifigance of August 23, 2010
Gutzmaandag 29 juni 2009 @ 14:59
was nederlands niet de enige toegestane taal op fok
sir_Tachyonmaandag 29 juni 2009 @ 15:12
quote:
Op maandag 29 juni 2009 14:59 schreef Gutz het volgende:
was nederlands niet de enige toegestane taal op fok
Woehoe weer een post en onzinnige opmerking erbij. Goedzo Gutz.
Dutch.donderdag 9 juli 2009 @ 00:15
Readers who are familiar with this HDDesign 'research' might recal that I have had a huge focus on September 2, 2004 during the summer months of the year 2004 prior to that date. I expected a development in relation to the exit of pope JP II.

I even pinpointed at the evening of September 2, 2004 and when that evening came, it wasn't Pope JP II but Bill Clinton who had a heart problem and was bruoght to the hospital.

US Presidency, Papacy, other high profile leaders and even Michael Jackson as the tabloid version are interchangeble in this concept of 'exit of Sun King'.

When Michael died I had to think again of this date September 2, 2004 again and I noticed that Mercury 'The Messenger'was at the same orbital position on both timeframes.

Yesterday I was reading Goro's update. He writes in "The Moonwalker Prophecy":
quote:
The way I see it, events are time portals, especially those that send shockwaves around the world. A chain of countless 'coincidences' culminate in an eruption known as 'event'. A butterfly flapping its wings causing a hurricane on the other side of the world. The longer we fail to recognize such a sequence, the bigger the resultant 'eruption'. Our attention alleviates the 'pressure', because it all begin with seeds of truth and truth by its nature wants to be known. As a 'force' like gravity it demands our attention or we suffer the consequences, like for instance 9/11, or the latest example, the sudden death of Michael Jackson. Taking us by surprise, they force us to pay attention. Better late than never. By that time it's nothing but a big all 'X marking the spot', a guaranteed treasure-trove of hidden knowledge. You start digging and you shall find treasure. It's in effect a timegate through which the past and the future leak into the present, into our conscious awareness. That's one way to look at it in any case.
http://www.goroadachi.com/etemenanki/moonwalker.htm

9/11 and the death of Michael Jackson....

timeframe is 2.845 days

Phi-point: 2.845 / 2.61803399 = 1.087 days = September 2, 2004!

Before I noticed today that September 2, 2004 was a Phi point between 9/11 and the death of Michael, I already gave this date a closer look earlier this week but I haven't had the time to post it yet.

September 2, 2004 became a 555 start triggerdate on an awakeningstimeframe in relation to the actual hospitalizations and final exit of Pope JP II, as some readers might recall.

I noticed this week that the timeframe between September 2, 2004 and the exit of Pope JP II on April 2, 2005 is Golden Mean Phi connected with the 555 days timeframe

September 2, 2004 - April 2, 2005 = 212 days

212 * Phi ( 1.61803399) * Phi ( 1.61803399 ) = 555

Let's give the dates on this Phi - based timecoded spiral a closer look.

We start with September 2, 2004, first Identified as a significant date in the summer of 2004 ( by this HDDesign 'research' only) . "Sun King" Bill Clinton has problems with his heart and he is taken to a hospital. It appears now that it is also the Phi- point between high impact events 9/11 and the death of Michael Jackson.

+212 days is April 2, 2005 exit of Pope JPII

next date on Phi based timecoded spiral is 212 * 1.61803399 = 343 days

+343 days is March 11, 2006

Milosevic died in his prison in The Hague

I expected that someone would be 'taken out by Design, with this Balkan karma in mind' as I posted on several forums prior to March 11, 2006 ( which is also Hyper Dimensional Tetrahedron keydate at macrolevel orientation, the same kind as September 11, 2001 )

September 2, 2004 Clinton's heart attack - March 11, 2006 Milosevic =

555 days

next date on Spiral gives the 555 reference: 343 * 1.61803399 = 555

+555 days is September 17, 2007 ( +/- 1 day as always )

Robert Jordan died

Robert Jordan was the pen name of James Oliver Rigney, Jr. (October 17, 1948 – September 16, 2007), under which he was best known as the author of the bestselling The Wheel of Time fantasy series.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Jordan

The Wheel of Time

The series draws on elements of European and Asian mythology, most notably the cyclical nature of time found in Hinduism and Buddhism and the concepts of balance, duality and a respect for nature found in Daoism. It was also partly inspired by Leo Tolstoy's War and Peace.

Premise

At the dawn of time, a deity known as the Creator forged the universe and the Wheel of Time, which spins the lives of men and women as its threads. The Wheel has seven spokes, each representing an age, and it is rotated by the One Power, which flows from the True Source. The One Power is divided into male and female halves, saidin and saidar, which work in opposition and in unison to drive the Wheel. Those humans who can use this power are known as channelers; the principal organization of such channelers in the books is called the Aes Sedai or 'Servants of All' in the Old Tongue.

The Creator imprisoned its antithesis, Shai'tan, at the moment of creation, sealing him away from the Wheel. However, in a time called the Age of Legends, an Aes Sedai experiment inadvertently breached the Dark One's prison, allowing his influence to seep back into the world. He rallied the powerful, the corrupt and the ambitious to his cause and these servants began an effort to free the Dark One fully from his prison, so he might remake time and reality in his own image. In response to this threat, the Wheel spun out the Dragon, a channeler of immense power, to be a champion for the Light. In the Age of Legends the Dragon was a man named Lews Therin Telamon, who eventually rose to command the Aes Sedai and their allies in the struggle against the Dark One's forces. After a grueling ten-year war, which began a century after the Dark One's prison was breached, Telamon led his forces to victory in a daring assault on the site of the earthly link to the Dark One's prison, and was able to seal it off. However, at this moment of victory the Dark One tainted saidin, driving male channelers of the One Power insane. The male channelers devastated the world with the One Power, unleashing earthquakes and tidal waves that reshaped the planet. Their leader, Lews Therin, killed his friends, his family, and finally himself in his insanity. Eventually, the last male channeler was killed or cut off from the One Power, leaving the human race all but destroyed and only women able to wield the One Power safely. The Aes Sedai reconstituted and guided humanity out of this dark time. Mankind now lived under the shadow of a prophecy that the Dark One would break free from his prison and the Dragon would be reborn to face him once more, raining destruction upon the world in the process of saving it from the Dark One.

Over the next three and a half thousand years, the human race returns to a level of technology roughly comparable to that of the Medieval era (although cultural institutions and traditions seem closer to the 19th Century), with the difference that women enjoy full equality with men in most societies, and are superior in some. This is put down to the power and influence of the female-only Aes Sedai spilling over into everyday life. Several major wars have ravaged the main continent since the defeat of the Dark One, such as the Trolloc Wars, when the surviving servants of the Dark One tried to destroy civilization once more but were defeated by an alliance of nations led by the Aes Sedai; and the War of the Hundred Years, a devastating civil war that followed the fall of a continent-spanning empire ruled by the High King, Artur Hawkwing. These wars have prevented the human race from regaining the power and high technology of the Age of Legends, and also left humanity divided. Even the prestige of the Aes Sedai has fallen, with their shrinking numbers and the emergence of organizations such as the Children of the Light, a militant order who hold that all who dabble with the One Power are servants of the Shadow. The nations of the modern era are able to unite against the warrior-clans of the Aiel, who cross into the western kingdoms on a mission of vengeance after they suffered a grievous insult, but are too divided to work effectively together in other areas.

Plot summary

The prequel novel, New Spring, takes place during the Aiel War and chronicles the end of the conflict and the discovery by the Aes Sedai that one of the Prophecies of the Dragon has been fulfilled, that the Dragon has been Reborn. Aes Sedai agents are dispatched to try to find the newborn child before servants of the Shadow can do the same.

The series proper commences almost twenty years later in the Two Rivers, a near-forgotten backwater district of the kingdom of Andor. An Aes Sedai, Moiraine, and her Warder Lan, arrive in the village of Emond's Field with news that servants of the Dark One are searching for one particular young man living in the area. Moiraine is unable to determine which of three men (Rand al'Thor, Mat Cauthon or Perrin Aybara) is the Dragon Reborn, so she takes all three of them out of the Two Rivers, along with their friend Egwene al'Vere. Nynaeve al'Meara, the village Wisdom, later meets up with them at the town of Baerlon. The men are mystified why Moiraine has allowed Egwene and Nynaeve to travel with them, but it is later revealed that both of them can channel the One Power and learn to be Aes Sedai. A mysterious old gleeman named Thom Merrilin also travels with the group, claiming he wants to travel in safety when leaving the Two Rivers. The first novel depicts their flight from various agents of the Shadow and their attempts to escape to the Aes Sedai city of Tar Valon.

From then on, the story expands and the original characters are frequently split into different groups and pursue different missions or agendas aimed at furthering the cause of the Dragon Reborn, sometimes thousands of miles apart. The original group of characters from the Two Rivers make new allies, gain experience and become figures of some influence and authority. As they struggle to unite the western kingdoms against the Dark One's forces, their task is complicated by rulers of the nations who refuse to give up their authority and by factions such as the Children of the Light, who do not believe in the prophecies, and the Seanchan, the descendants of a long-lost colony of Artur Hawkwing's empire across the western ocean -Hawkwing had once united the mainland continent under his rule, and sent his son across the ocean to unite those lands as well- who have returned, believing it is their destiny to conquer the world. The Aes Sedai also become divided between those who believe the Dragon Reborn should be strictly controlled, and those who believe he must freely lead them into battle as he did in the earlier war. As the story expands, new characters representing different factions are introduced: although this expansion of the narrative allows the sheer scale of the growing struggle to be effectively depicted, it has been criticized for slowing the pace of the novels and sometimes reducing the appearances of the original cast to extended cameos.

By the eleventh novel, it has become clear that the Last Battle, caused when the Dark One is able to exert its influence directly on the world once more, is imminent. According to the author finishing the final volume, Brandon Sanderson, the Last Battle will be depicted in a three volume series that was originally conceived as a final novel.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wheel_of_Time

next date on the spiral is 555 * 1.61803399 = 898 days = March 3, 2010

On that day Venus is at the same orbital position as during the exit of Pope JP II.

first date on the timeline Q1 2010

taking a synchronicity serious, posted at another forum:
quote:
Hi there,

I have been doing this Hyper Dimensional 'research' for some years now, trying to identify these indications of hidden underlying Design in our reality. Its all about hidden patterns that , once identified, could unveil hidden correlations between at first sight unrelated events in our reality.

This post isn't meant to explain everything about HDDesign, but is meant to learn more about the work of Strauss and How.

Actually, I hadn't heard about their work until last monday and I noticed it by 'coincidence'.

My work is based on intuitive thoughts and synchronicities that unveil their hidden correlations instantly, based on a set pre determined principles, mainly based on timecoded Phi spirals, orbital positions of other planets in Earth days and Platonic Solid based Hyper Dimensional dates.

Anyway, the first indication of hidden underlying Design I have identified back in 2004 was the 1111 days awakenings timeframe, putting a start- and endtriggerdate 555 days from the monitored eventsday in the middle.

Anyway, I was looking at medium term cycles in history marked in history by High Impact events and in this case the death of JFK, Lennon and Michael in relation to the end of the mayan calendar.

Anyway, I calculated the Pi points and came across a date in relation to the above mentioned events that drew my attention.

This Pi date appeared to be the 555 starttriggerdate in relation to Michael Jacksons death.

I'm talking about December 18, 2007 .

On that day Bill Strauss died.

Until last monday I hadn't heard about him or his work but in my HDDesign 'research' his death is marking Michael Jackson's death aswell as his death seemed to be intelligently linked to other high impact events in our times.

As if he is indicating the 'turning points' himself.

The question now is, if there are some related issues posted here in relation to Michael ( and perhaps Lennon and JFK) as indication of a turning point in Strauss' theories.
http://www.fourthturning.(...)?p=272126#post272126

read on:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Strauss
IM-DI7donderdag 9 juli 2009 @ 01:13
quote:
Op zaterdag 9 mei 2009 22:50 schreef Fortune_Cookie het volgende:
Reuze interessant TS. HELEMAAL GELEZEN!!!
Keep 'em coming!


Ach, ik heb wel eens vaker een negatief bericht achter gelaten, een jaar geleden ofzo. Ziehier "A beautiful mind". Ik dacht dat de bijbel al erg was, maar aan deze larie heb je gewoon helemaal geen ene fuck. Het heeft geen voorspellende gaven het is helemaal niks.

Maar als het Dutch gelukkig maakt, hahahaha. Sorry, ik kan er echt alleen om lachen. Semi-wetenschap, semi-spiritualiteit. Over 10 jaar heeft ie er een boek over geschreven, staat dan naast de reptielen/ufo boeken.
Dutch.dinsdag 21 juli 2009 @ 23:25
WOW!

Solar eclipses are 'confirming' the signifigance of Phi points!

A total solar eclipse is a spectacular natural phenomenon and many people travel to remote locations to observe one. The 1999 total eclipse in Europe helped to increase public awareness of the phenomenon, as illustrated by the number of journeys made specifically to witness the 2005 annular eclipse and the 2006 total eclipse. On July 22 2009, the next total solar eclipse will occur.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_eclipse

Solar eclipses of August 11, 1999 and July 22, 2009 create a timeframe of 3634 days

Phi point is 3634 / Phi Golden Mean is 1.61803399 = 2246 days

Yes that's with Venus at same orbital position again indeed, 10 * 224.68 Earth days.

August 11, 1999 eclipse and Phi point on October 3, 2005 create a timeframe of 2246 days

at Phi point:

another Solar eclipse!

Solar eclipse of October 3, 2005
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_eclipse_of_2005_October_3

you might recognize this date back in 2005 as a few days after the 2005 Bali bombings. Earlier this week I wrote:

11 Venus years in Earth days

Venus at same orbital position during the Bali bombing of October 12, 2002 and last Friday's deadly attacks on two hotels in Jakarta.

Saturday, 18 July 2009

Fugitive linked to Jakarta blasts

Indonesian officials say there are "strong indications" a key wanted fugitive was behind Friday's deadly attacks on two hotels in Jakarta.

Noordin Mohamed Top is wanted for plotting the Bali bombings of 2002 and 2005 and other Indonesian attacks.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8157104.stm

!!!
Dutch.vrijdag 7 augustus 2009 @ 10:10
I want to share some "as above - so below" indications that popped up this week while I was back at work again after a 3 weeks holiday.

One of the major underlying themes in this HDDesign 'research' is:

"stay out of space"

expressed in many different way in the HDDesign material.

On December 15, 1970 the Soviet spacecraft Venera 7 landed on the Venusian surface, it became the first man-made spacecraft to successfully land on another planet and to transmit data from there back to Earth.

Venera 7
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venera_7

This first landing on another planet is at Phi point between:

Tunguska event on June 30, 1908
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunguska_event

and

July 19, 2009:

Mysterious bright spot found on Venus & impact on Jupiter

Amateur astronomer Frank Melillo of Holtsville, New York, first spotted the new feature, which is brighter than its surroundings at ultraviolet wavelengths, on the planet's southern hemisphere on 19 July. That same day, an amateur observer in Australia found a dark spot on Jupiter that had been caused by a meteoroid impact.

another "as above - so below" indication has to do with the Grand Cross Alignment of August 18, 1999.

yesterday I started to log my thoughts on this matter, I wrote:

Let's just give it a go

The August 18, 1999 Grand Cross alignment regularly pops up in this HDDesign 'research'.

Another interesting alignment happened on May 5, 2000:

from NASA:

The Planetary Alignment of 5 May 2000

On May 5, 2000 the planets Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn will be more or less positioned in a line with the Sun. Additionally, the Moon will be almost lined up between the Earth and Sun. Although this has led to many dire predictions of global catastrophes such as melting ice caps, floods, hurricanes, earthquakes, etc. there is absolutely no scientific basis for these claims. The distance to the planets is too great for their gravity, magnetic fields, radiation, etc. to have any discernible effect on Earth. In fact, we won't even be able to see this alignment, as all the planets will be on the opposite side of the Sun from the Earth.
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetary/alignment.html

It has been on my mind for a long time that these alignments are somehow important.

Earlier this week I thought again about the Grand cross alignment of August 18, 1999 ( which is also at Hyper Dimensional Cube date at macrolevel orientation ) and the May 5, 2000 alignment

as above , so below.....

marked in the heavens, expressed below

I thought Earth's orbital positions could create a Grand Cross.....

The orientation of the cross....

an August 18 and a May 5..... Give a June 26 and December 26 to create a Grand cross........

December 26....

First thought ofcourse: December 26, 2004 Sumatra quake / Tsunami

I thought to look at the timeframes between these orbital positions in order to find confirmation of signifigance.....to check the cross so to speak.

May 5, 2000 - December 26, 2004 Tsunami = 1.696 days

December 26, 2004 - August 18, 2009 = 1.696 days

This was the status yesterday

It kept nagging on me, I should find a confirmation for June 26....

above and below...

I decided to do a search and first thing that pops up:

"The year 2010 creates a grand cross of planets on a Holy Cross such as only occurs once in a Great Year cycle. Jupiter will be with Uranus at the spring equinox opposite Saturn at the fall equinox and these will be square again to the galactic and solstice axes.
In June the aspect is intensified by the transiting Sun passing opposite the Galactic Centre and on June 26 2010 a Full Moon opposite the Sun joins this amazing aspect around the Earth."

But that's not all........

This is similar in reversed form to the Tsunami aspects of December 2004

From: 2010 the Year of the Volcano
http://www.scribd.com/doc/17388684/2010-the-Year-of-the-Volcano

note that the expectations for HD Cube timeframe November 2010 in relation to mount St. Helens / Yellowstone are posted in the thread 'experimental stuff, the Venus connection'

and

Venus at same orbital position during December 26, 2004 Sumatra quake tsunami and the end of the Mayan Calendar, which is the same timeframe as between the 2 Venus Transits of our times. 13 Venus years .

End of Mayan Calendar

December 23, 2012 - An alternative date for the completion of the thirteenth B'ak'tun in the Long Count calendar, calculated using another version of the GMT correlation[9] which is supported by a few Mayanist researchers
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012

So Venus is at the same orbital position during the December 26, 2004 Sumatra 9+ quake / tsunami as during the end of the Mayan Calendar.

Timeframe December 26, 2004 - December 23, 2012 = 2.920 days

13 Venus years in Earth days is 13 * 224.68 = 2.920 days

So June 26 and December 26 are 'creating' the axis of the Grand Cross orbital positions as explained.

I was wondering if June 26, 2010 could give somekind of 'confirmation' in the HDDesign 'research' in relation to the end of the Mayan Calendar.

and yes it does

very profound

Its the last 911 based Hyper Dimensional Tetrahedron in the Design of our times!

June 26, 2010 Grand Cross - December 23, 2012 end of Mayan Calendar:

911 days!

That's one of the first identified basic elements in this HDDesign research, based on Hyper Dimensional ( platonic / Tetrahedron in this case )Geometry!

August 18, 2009 and June 26, 2010 are on the timelines already.

I will monitor these timeframes very carefully
Dutch.vrijdag 14 augustus 2009 @ 12:43
As a remark in relation to Earth's orbital position around June 26, on top of the Grand Cross so to speak.

[quote="Dutch"]
There's alot going on, as the 'exit of Sun King theme also seems connected.

Michael Jackson passed away June 25 as the tabloid version of exit of Sun king theme.[/quote]

Those who are reading Goro's work are familiar with the 'passing of the tourch' ritual during Reagan's funeral on June 11, 2004, marking the end of the Venus Transit of June 2004

[quote="Dutch"]The June 8, 2004 Venus transit coincided with an exit of a 'Sun King.
Ronald Reagan died just before the Venus Transit and his funeral was just after the Venus Transit. Goro has written excellent analysis about the events and talks about the 'once and future Kings: passing the Torch ritual from Reagan to Schwarzenegger, who was in the picture during Reagans funeral as Gouvernor of California.

I decided to check the Phi - Golden Mean point between the 2 Venus Transit of our times: Phi point between June 8, 2004 and June 6, 2012:

around June 28, 2007 ( +/- 1 day)

On June 27, 2007 - Tony Blair resigns as Prime Minister of the United Kingdom; New Labour Party leader Gordon Brown is appointed Prime Minister by Queen Elizabeth II.
[/quote]

Those familiar with this HDdesign material are aware of the correlation between the 1111 days awakenings timeframe on Earth and Venus:

8 Venus years in Earth days = 1111 awakenings timeframe * Phi Golden Mean

8 * 224.68 = 1111 * Phi 1.618

In order to emphasize these correlations between Venus and the 1111 awakenings timeframe on Earth:

The timeframe between the 2 Venus Transits of our times is ofcourse 8 years or 13 Venus years in Earth days.

We have seen the exit of Reagan during the 'passing the tourch ritual' on June 11, 2004 and the exit of Tony Blair at Phi point of the Venus Transits on June 27, 2007, which is also 'on top' of the Grand Cross June 26 (+/-1day)

The 'confirmation' is 'in the face' so to speak:

June 11, 2004 - June 27, 2007 = 1111 days!


On Tony Blair's last day as Prime Minister :



Tony Blair and Arnold Schwarzenegger hold talks at 10 Downing Street on Blair's last day as Prime Minister, on June 26, 2007 'on top' of the Grand Cross.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2007/jun/26/greenpolitics.uk

Keep this in mind for the next 'on top' of the Grand Cross around June 26, 2010
Dutch.vrijdag 14 augustus 2009 @ 22:16
next in line of thought.....

the awakenings timeframe of 1111 days consists of 555 start- and end triggerdates around a monitored events day.

In this case the monitored events day between the exit of Reagan and Blair is around December 19, 2005

Once again it becomes clear, at least to me, that it's all already here in the HDDesign material, waiting to fall in its place in the Design of our times

Its the timeframe of the first identified indication of Intelligent Design in relation to the 'exit of Sun King' , as has been monitored in this thread:

Its there already:

'Exit of Sunking' 7-4-7 based
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about7-hddesign.html
Neutrinozaterdag 15 augustus 2009 @ 01:45
quote:
Op vrijdag 14 augustus 2009 22:16 schreef Dutch. het volgende:
next in line of thought.....

the awakenings timeframe of 1111 days consists of 555 start- and end triggerdates around a monitored events day.

In this case the monitored events day between the exit of Reagan and Blair is around December 19, 2005

Once again it becomes clear, at least to me, that it's all already here in the HDDesign material, waiting to fall in its place in the Design of our times

Its the timeframe of the first identified indication of Intelligent Design in relation to the 'exit of Sun King' , as has been monitored in this thread:

Its there already:

'Exit of Sunking' 7-4-7 based
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about7-hddesign.html
Real reality is really real reality. Really real, really real.. real reality..
How come cows come come cow.. Cows chow, chow cow.. How?
So how so.. so how wow.. wow so how.. how so? so how..So..

Wow ... wauw... wauwo wauw.. so how come cows chauw chow
on real reality?

No.. ?
Dutch.zondag 16 augustus 2009 @ 16:04
So 'The King of Pop' Michael Jackson died on the eve of a Grand Cross orbital position, a June 25

so did Elvis Presley, The King of Rock 'n' Roll or The King, on August 16, 1977 on the eve Earth's orbital position during the Grand Cross alignment

The elements of HDdesign as described here are the 1111 days awakenings timeframe and Phi points.


Grand Cross orbital positions ( peak) August 18, 1977 ( The King of Rock 'n' Roll) - June 26, 2009 ( The King of Pop) :

11.635 days ( +/- 1 day as always)

or 4 times awakeningstimeframe of 1111 days

4444 days ( = Phi point )

+

4444 * 1.61803399 = 7.191

= 4444 + 7191 = 11.635 days

so this Phi-point at 4444 days should give 'confirmation'of the underlying themes of the Grand Cross

August 16-18, 1977 - October 16- 18, 1989 = 4444 days

October 17, 1989:

1989 Loma Prieta earthquake

The Loma Prieta earthquake, also known as the Quake of '89 and the World Series Quake, was a major earthquake that struck the San Francisco Bay Area of California on October 17, 1989 at 5:04 p.m. local time. Caused by a slip along the San Andreas Fault, the earthquake lasted approximately 15 seconds and measured 6.9 on the moment magnitude scale (surface-wave magnitude 7.1).[3] The quake killed 63[1] people throughout northern California, injured 3,757 people and left some 8,000[4] to 12,000 people homeless.[5]

The earthquake occurred during the warm-up for the third game of the 1989 World Series, coincidentally featuring both of the Bay Area's Major League Baseball teams, the Oakland Athletics and the San Francisco Giants. This was the first major earthquake in America to be broadcast on live television.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loma_Prieta_earthquake

remember the 9+ Sumatra quake / tsunami is marking the Grand Cross.

We are currently in the timeframe around August 18, another orbital position of the Grand Cross.

Today:

Quake strikes off Indonesian coast

JAKARTA, Indonesia (CNN) -- A 7.0-magnitude quake struck off the western coast of Indonesia's Sumatra Island on Sunday, the U.S. Geological Survey said.

No tsunami warning was immediately issued.

The quake was recorded in the Kepulauan Mentawai region, a chain of islands popular with surfers.
http://edition.cnn.com/20(...)sia.quake/index.html
Dutch.dinsdag 18 augustus 2009 @ 21:58
updated August 18 Grand Cross, which is 'exit of Sun King'related and August 29, Venus crossing the transit line, also 'exit of Sun King ' related

CNN confirms: Michael Jackson will be buried on his 51st birthday
http://edition.cnn.com/20(...)morabilia/index.html

LOS ANGELES, California (CNN) -- Michael Jackson will be buried Saturday, August 29, on what would have been the singer's 51st birthday, according to a statement from publicist Ken Sunshine.

see timeline here:
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/forum-1-hddesign.html
Dutch.dinsdag 18 augustus 2009 @ 22:37
Synchronicity. Posted earlier today, also from CNN:

updated August 18

exit of Sun King theme related to the orbital positions of the Grand Cross:
South Korea's former 'Sunshine' president dies
http://edition.cnn.com/20(...).kim.obit/index.html
Dutch.vrijdag 28 augustus 2009 @ 16:13
So Venus is crossing the Venus Transit line on the other side of the sun around August 29, 2009 with Ted Kennedy's funeral as the expected expression of the 'exit of Sun King' theme.

On April 10 this year I have put this timeframe around August 29 on the timeline for Q3, 2009:
quote:
August 29-31, 2009 - Venus crossing the Transitline, see thread "experimental stuff/ the Venus Connection"
On April 22 I added the underlying theme and I first expressed my expectation of an 'exit of sun king' related event for this timeframe:
quote:
creating a 1823 days 'control' timeframe with September 2, 2004. ( 2 x 911 + events day = 1823 ) with an expected 'exit of Sun King'event.

Finetuned prior to the timeframe to the evening of September 2, 2004.

On that evening Clinton had a heart problem.
see thread 'exit of JP II'.
Just like Reagan who died just prior to be Venus Transit of June 2004 and burried afterwards, its now Ted Kennedy who died just prior to Venus crossing the transit line of the 2004 and 2012 Venus Transits.

Exit of Sun King, with Mercury 'The Messenger' at same orbital position as during the assassination of his brother JFK

November 22, 1963 - August 25, 2009 = 16.713 days

190 Mercury Years in Earth days = 190 * 87.9691 = 16.714 days

first thought: Phi point

May 13, 1981

Pope John Paul II is shot and nearly killed by Mehmet Ali Ağca, a Turkish gunman, as he enters St. Peter's Square in Rome to address a general audience.

( US leadership and Papacy interchangable in the concept of 'exit of Sun King')

Pope John Paul II, who was born as Karol Józef Wojtyła on a Hyper Dimensional Cube date at Macrolevel orientation, May 18, 1920 and who died at a Hyper Dimensional Octahedron date at Macrolevel orientation: April 2, 2005, was born during another kind of Transit: during a solar eclipse. (He lived for exactly 31.000 days)

Mehmet Ali Ağca in his turn, was born at Phi point between the 1882 and 2004 Venus Transits:

from December 6, 1882 - June 8, 2004 = 44.379 days

Phi point is 44.379 / 1.61803399 = 27.427

27.427 days after December 6, 1882 ( the last Venus Transit prior to the Venus Transit of june 2004 ):

January 9, 1958

Mehmet Ali Ağca (born January 9, 1958) is a Turkish assassin who shot and wounded Pope John Paul II on May 13, 1981.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mehmet_Ali_A%C4%9Fca

160 Venus Years in earth days later, when Venus is taking the same geometrical position again as during the Venus Transit of December 6, 1882: 160 times 224.7 = 35.952 days:

35.952 days after December 6, 1882: May 13, 1981, Mehmet Ali Ağca shot and wounded Pope John Paul II.

There are more indications of hidden intelligent Design:

next year on November 22, 2010 Venus will cross this very same transit line, marking the assassination of JFK.

This will happen aswell on June 6, 2012, the timeframe of the last Venus Transit of our times, marking the assassination of his brother Robert, who was killed on June 6, 1958


That means that both JFK and RFK were assassinated with Venus on an orbital position on the Venus Transit line, on opposite sides, just like during the funeral of Ted.


There are more indications of hidden underlying Intelligent Design, based on the described elements of HDDesign, listed in a seperate thread in the HDDesign material. Like Ted son Patrick for instance, who was apparently disoriented by medication when he crashed his car into a barricade on Capitol Hill on May 6, 2006. Hyper Dimensionl Tetrahedron based Design:

we have this 911 days - event day - 911 days pattern with 911 being the Tetrahedronal key element of design, creating timecoded patterns like 9/11 - 911 Days - Madrid.

So infact such a pattern makes steps of 912 days

Kennedy was shot on November 22, 1963

on May 4, 2006:

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Rep. Patrick Kennedy, son of Sen. Ted Kennedy, said Thursday he was apparently disoriented by medication when he crashed his car into a barricade on Capitol Hill overnight.
http://edition.cnn.com/20(...).accident/index.html

November 22, 1963 - May 4, 2006 is exactly 15504 days

or exactly 17 times 912

this timeframe is also 69 Venus years in Earth days!!!! or Venus at same orbital position.

same thing with Mercury 'The Messenger'. JFK and his son jr both died with Mercury on the same orbital position:

November 22, 1963 - July 16, 1999 = 13.020 days

or 148 times Mercury's orbit of 87.969 = 148 times 87.969 = 13.019,41

I recommend to review these Kennedy correlations as collected in this seperate thread in the main forum of HDDesign forum.

So tomorrow, the once, present and future? kings will attend Ted's funeral
Dutch.zaterdag 29 augustus 2009 @ 21:40
quote:
So tomorrow, the once, present and future? kings will attend Ted's funeral
Of course, we can remove the ?


California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, a Republican who is married to Kennedy's niece Maria Shriver, entered the church shortly before the funeral was scheduled to begin and chatted with Bill Clinton.
http://edition.cnn.com/20(...)y.funeral/index.html
Dutch.dinsdag 1 september 2009 @ 11:29
!

As said numerous times before:

This 911 Golden Mean based timecoded spiral in Dutch society is in fact linked to 'Srebrenica Karma'

I have been identifying and monitoring it here, during the last couple of years:

911 based Phi spiral in Dutch society
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about87-hddesign.html
Balkan Karma Venus based
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about4-hddesign.html

First identified event on this timecoded spiral was the assassination of Pim Fortuyn and this HDDesign 'research' shows that this was in fact a karmic expression related to the Srebrenica massacre.

Venus based indeed:

Srebrenica July 11, 1995 - September 1, 2009 = timeframe of 5.167 days

or Venus at the same orbital position

5.167 / 224.68 ( Venus year in Earth days ) = 23

This development emerges, true or not, its hitting the timecoded pattern:

Pim Fortuyn was killed by a second shooter!

Actrice Ine Veen has written a book based on a scret report ( that's what she claims ) in which she stated that indeed Volkert van de Graaf did shoot 3 bullets at Pim Fortuyn ( 2 in his back, one in his neck), but that Pim Fortuyn was already killed by 2 bullets in his head fired by a second shooter from on top a nearby building.

The Dutch secret service AIVD would know about these 2 kinds of ammunition. The book is called "killed by the Crown".
http://www.crimesite.nl/l(...)t-van-der-graaf.html
Dutch.woensdag 2 september 2009 @ 11:40
Yes,

I have been expecting a major Earthquake around this current timeframe, I added it to the timeline of Q3 2009 on April 10, 2009:
quote:
August 29-31, 2009 - Venus crossing the Transitlines, see thread "experimental stuff/ the Venus Connection"
Phi point ( outwards ) end of Mayan calendar and:
August 15, 2007 - An 8.0 earthquake strikes Peru, killing 512 people, injuring more than 1,500, and causing tsunami warnings in the Pacific Ocean.


I have been monitoring the current timeframe and was a bit surprised to see this Phi point come to pass without a major Earthquake and/or Tsunami 'conditioning'.

This morning I decided to give the calculation af this Phi point a second look. Back in April, when I calculated this Phi point, I used December 21, 2012 as the end of the Mayan calendar. An alternative date for the end of the Mayan Calendar is December 23, 2012 and in fact I use both in this HDDesign 'research'.
I noticed that the Phipoint between the August 15, 2007 quake and the and of the Mayan Calendar on December 23, 2012 is in fact around September 1, 2009:

timeframe August 15, 2007 - December 23, 2012 = 1.958 days

Phi point is 1.958 / 2.61803399 = 748 days

August 15, 2007 - September 1, 2009 = 748 days = Phi point

At this point this morning, I understood that today would be within the timeframe of this Phi point and I continued my work.

The 11 oclock radio news gave me the chills: big earthquake Indonesia + Tsunami conditioning!!

CNN:

Indonesia quake triggers tsunami watch

JAKARTA, Indonesia (CNN) -- A 7.4-magnitude earthquake shook Indonesia on Wednesday, triggering a tsunami watch for all areas of the Indian Ocean, according to forecasters.
http://edition.cnn.com/20(...)arthquake/index.html
Jumparoundmaandag 7 september 2009 @ 09:14
vermeld er dan ook bij dat de tsunamiwaarschuwing direct weer werd ingetrokken.

wel grappig trouwens, net weer een aardbeving in de zelfde hoek kut refresh
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recenteqsww/
Dutch.maandag 7 september 2009 @ 22:52
ik zie dat jij begrijpt wat Tsunami 'conditioning' betekend, precies zoals toen in Peru
Jumparounddinsdag 8 september 2009 @ 08:43
quote:
Op maandag 7 september 2009 22:52 schreef Dutch. het volgende:
ik zie dat jij begrijpt wat Tsunami 'conditioning' betekend, precies zoals toen in Peru
het zal wel
UncleScorpdinsdag 8 september 2009 @ 08:53
quote:
Op maandag 7 september 2009 22:52 schreef Dutch. het volgende:
ik zie dat jij begrijpt wat Tsunami 'conditioning' betekend, precies zoals toen in Peru
Misschien een klein woordje uitleg voor diegenen die niet direct mee zijn ?
Dutch.dinsdag 8 september 2009 @ 21:37
In April verwachtte ik dat de aardbeving van 15 augustus 2007 die een tsunami waarschuwing to gevolg had het onderliggende thema zou zijn voor het Phi point met het einde van de Maya kalender rond 1 september 2009. En dat is ook precies wat er weer gebeurde: een aardbeving met een tsunami waarschuwing
dieenebartwoensdag 9 september 2009 @ 09:59
quote:
Op dinsdag 8 september 2009 08:43 schreef Jumparound het volgende:

[..]

het zal wel
Het is zo!
Dat zegt'ie toch?
Jumparoundwoensdag 9 september 2009 @ 10:08
quote:
Op dinsdag 8 september 2009 21:37 schreef Dutch. het volgende:
In April verwachtte ik dat de aardbeving van 15 augustus 2007 die een tsunami waarschuwing to gevolg had het onderliggende thema zou zijn voor het Phi point met het einde van de Maya kalender rond 1 september 2009. En dat is ook precies wat er weer gebeurde: een aardbeving met een tsunami waarschuwing
maar Dutch, die aarbeving was in een regia die ook wel "the ring of fire" wordt genoemd, en dat doen ze neit voor niks.
Dis is het zelfde als zeggen.

Rond 2012 zal er een meteoriet worden ontdekt die een middellijn heeft die groter is dan 30 meter en op de aarde zou kunnen botsen.

(ja gekhe, daar zijn er miljoenen van)

Face it, elke dag gebeuren er ongelukken, zijn er overstromingen, storten er vliegtuigen neer maar die passen niet in je design, dus daar vertel je niks over. Maar door vage rekensometjes met het aantal mercurius jaren in ten opzichte van de komische plaats van venus t.o.v. de aarde kom je een heel eind met "toevalligheden".
Ik begrijp dat je verder geobedeerd bent jet de design, dus zal ik je als nonbeliever niet meer lastigvallen.
Jumparoundwoensdag 9 september 2009 @ 10:08
quote:
Op woensdag 9 september 2009 09:59 schreef dieenebart het volgende:

[..]

Het is zo!
Dat zegt'ie toch?
oke, ik neem 2012 alvast maar vrij dag.
Michieloswoensdag 9 september 2009 @ 10:10
quote:
Op woensdag 9 september 2009 10:08 schreef Jumparound het volgende:

[..]

maar Dutch, die aarbeving was in een regia die ook wel "the ring of fire" wordt genoemd, en dat doen ze neit voor niks.
Dis is het zelfde als zeggen.

Rond 2012 zal er een meteoriet worden ontdekt die een middellijn heeft die groter is dan 30 meter en op de aarde zou kunnen botsen.

(ja gekhe, daar zijn er miljoenen van)

Face it, elke dag gebeuren er ongelukken, zijn er overstromingen, storten er vliegtuigen neer maar die passen niet in je design, dus daar vertel je niks over. Maar door vage rekensometjes met het aantal mercurius jaren in ten opzichte van de komische plaats van venus t.o.v. de aarde kom je een heel eind met "toevalligheden".
Ik begrijp dat je verder geobedeerd bent jet de design, dus zal ik je als nonbeliever niet meer lastigvallen.
aka confirmation bias. Er is btw geen meteoriet in de baan van de aarde (voor de komende 10.000 jaar ).
Jumparoundwoensdag 9 september 2009 @ 10:35
quote:
Op woensdag 9 september 2009 10:10 schreef Michielos het volgende:

[..]

aka confirmation bias. Er is btw geen meteoriet in de baan van de aarde (voor de komende 10.000 jaar ).
Right
Oortwolk, +Passage Alpha Centurie = bombardement aarde.
Kyperring + (insert elk kosmisch verschijnsel) = meteorietenregen op aarde.
uit koersgeraakte komeet + zwaartekracht zon + aarde op verkeerde plaats = aarde....
(om maar 3 voorbeeldjes te nomen )
Michieloswoensdag 9 september 2009 @ 10:41
quote:
Op woensdag 9 september 2009 10:35 schreef Jumparound het volgende:

[..]

Right
Oortwolk, +Passage Alpha Centurie = bombardement aarde.
Kyperring + (insert elk kosmisch verschijnsel) = meteorietenregen op aarde.
uit koersgeraakte komeet + zwaartekracht zon + aarde op verkeerde plaats = aarde....
(om maar 3 voorbeeldjes te nomen )
juist, en de kans op deze drie verschijnselen zijn hoe groot? Ik heb het overigens over de voor ons bekende gigantische meteorietblokken.
UncleScorpwoensdag 9 september 2009 @ 11:09
quote:
Op dinsdag 8 september 2009 21:37 schreef Dutch. het volgende:
In April verwachtte ik dat de aardbeving van 15 augustus 2007 die een tsunami waarschuwing to gevolg had het onderliggende thema zou zijn voor het Phi point met het einde van de Maya kalender rond 1 september 2009. En dat is ook precies wat er weer gebeurde: een aardbeving met een tsunami waarschuwing
Bedankt voor de toelichting Dutch.
Volgende belangrijke datum is wss 17/9/09, resonating earlier earthquakes ?
Jumparoundwoensdag 9 september 2009 @ 12:22
quote:
Op woensdag 9 september 2009 10:41 schreef Michielos het volgende:

[..]

juist, en de kans op deze drie verschijnselen zijn hoe groot?
1) We zitten in een spiraal arm van de melkweg waar elke ster ook zn eigen baan rond het galactisch centrum heeft. Dus het gebeurd, of we nou willen of niet.
Dus ook de zwaartekracht van een andere ster (ookal staat ie op 4 lichtjaar afstand) kan de kometen in de oortwolk beinvloeden. Het gaat niet snel, maar het gebeurd.
2) Kuyperring, zelfde verhaal... Feit is dat er miljoenen, zoniet miljarden meterorieten / kometen / brokken puin rond drijven. Allemaal overblijfselen van de vorming van ons zonnestelsel. Het zal mij niet verbazen als er in de interstellaire ruinte (dus tussen de zonnen) nog brokstukken zijn die stammen uit de tijd van de vorming van de melkweg (ons sterrestelsel) of zelfs uit de tijd van de vorming van "onze" lokale groep sterrestelsels.
3) Zoek maar op schumacher levy. Dit was ook een komeet die al miljarden jaren zijn rondjes rond de zon draaide. Natuurlijk heeft de aarde + maan niet de gravitywell die jupiter heeft. Maar Julpiter had S-L ook kunnen afbuigen naar een baan die het pad van de aarde kruist.
quote:
Ik heb het overigens over de voor ons bekende gigantische meteorietblokken.
Zie bovenstaand betoog. we kennen er w/s net zoveel niet als alle bekende met elkaar vermenigvuldigd
Dutch.woensdag 9 september 2009 @ 22:52
quote:
Op woensdag 9 september 2009 10:08 schreef Jumparound het volgende:

[..]

maar Dutch, die aarbeving was in een regia die ook wel "the ring of fire" wordt genoemd, en dat doen ze neit voor niks.
Dis is het zelfde als zeggen.

Rond 2012 zal er een meteoriet worden ontdekt die een middellijn heeft die groter is dan 30 meter en op de aarde zou kunnen botsen.

(ja gekhe, daar zijn er miljoenen van)

Face it, elke dag gebeuren er ongelukken, zijn er overstromingen, storten er vliegtuigen neer maar die passen niet in je design, dus daar vertel je niks over. Maar door vage rekensometjes met het aantal mercurius jaren in ten opzichte van de komische plaats van venus t.o.v. de aarde kom je een heel eind met "toevalligheden".
Ik begrijp dat je verder geobedeerd bent jet de design, dus zal ik je als nonbeliever niet meer lastigvallen.
Ja maar vandaag is er geen zware aardbeving met tsunami waarschuwing, maar ik heb op 3 september wel op de tijdslijn vermeld dat Venus vandaag op dezelfde positie staat als gedurende 9/11. Was dat niet iets met gekaapte vliegtuigen? Check CNN maar even . vliegtuigkaping in Mexico
Jumparounddonderdag 10 september 2009 @ 08:17
ik zie helemaal niets op 3 september op jou tijdlijn... tenminste, niet in dit topic.
Dutch.donderdag 10 september 2009 @ 09:41
De 'tijdslijnen' worden per kwartaal bijgehouden op HDdesign forum ( dat forum gebruik ik als een instrument om alles 'live' te loggen, onbewerkt en zonder weglatingen)
quote:
Posted: 03 Sep 2009 08:24 am Post subject:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

new date added:

September 9, 2009 - Venus at same orbital position as during 9/11
13 Venus years in Earth days, exactly the same timeframe as between the 2 Venus Transits of our times

Q3 2009 Timeline: July, August and September 2009
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?t=387&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=45&mforum=hddesign

updated September 9, 9/11

Minister suspect in hijacking said 9/9/9 date a divine sign
http://edition.cnn.com/20(...)hijacking/index.html

MEXICO CITY, Mexico (CNN) -- A 44-year-old former drug addict and alcoholic who now works as a minister was the sole person responsible for the brief hijacking Wednesday of a commercial jetliner, a Mexican official said.

The suspect, Josmar Flores Pereira, told authorities he hijacked the jet on Wednesday because the date -- September 9, 2009, or 9/9/9 and 666 reversed -- held some significance for him, said Genaro Garcia Luna, the secretary for public safety.

"He said that because of that divine reference, he wanted to alert Mexico City of an earthquake," Garcia told reporters.
==snip==

Flores' wife, speaking with CNN by telephone from their home in the southern Mexican city of Oaxaca, said her husband had been looking for a way to get his message about God to the news media.

"He never wanted to hurt anyone," said Elisa Melgar, 38, the mother of their three sons and his wife of 18 years. "As his wife, I support him," she said, adding that her husband had not touched alcohol or drugs for the past 17 years. "He's a man who was transformed by the power of God."
Jumparounddonderdag 10 september 2009 @ 10:18
oke, maar uit jou post:
quote:
When intuition speaks

When I think of 9/11, I think of Pearl Harbor. Its the intuitive thought that pops up instantly and should unveil the hidden underlying Design while giving it a closer look by applying the identified elements of Hyper Dimensional Design. Tuning in on the hidden underlying patterns so to speak.

Pearl Harbor happened when Earth crossed the transit line of the Venus Transits of our times ( on the other side of the sun so to speak), on December 7, 1941

So:
- September 9, 2009 Venus at same orbital position as during 9/11
- same timeframe as between the 2 Venus Transits of our times between 9/11 and September 9, 2009
- Pearl harbor while Earth crossing the transit line of these same 2 Venus Transits.
Hier heb je het nog over pearl harbou, daar worden geen vliegtuigen in gekaapt.

uit jou link:
quote:
new date added:

September 9, 2009 - Venus at same orbital position as during 9/11
13 Venus years in Earth days, exactly the same timeframe as between the 2 Venus Transits of our times
Dat je dat nu linkt aan een vliegtuigkaping omdat het xxx dagen na 9/11 is geweest... Hoe verklaar je dat?


dit is geen troll, ik probeer kritisch te zijn


[quote]
sir_Tachyondonderdag 10 september 2009 @ 10:53
Dutch kan beter een antwoord geven op je vraag Jumparound, maar hoe ik de bevindingen lees (als ik hem kan volgen), betekent het niet dat op de gerelateerde gebeurtenissen bijvoorbeeld allebei vliegtuigkapingen plaats vinden. Voor de rest kan ik er geen beter antwoord op geven.
dieenebartdonderdag 10 september 2009 @ 11:45
quote:
Op donderdag 10 september 2009 10:18 schreef Jumparound het volgende:
oke, maar uit jou post:
[..]

Hier heb je het nog over pearl harbou, daar worden geen vliegtuigen in gekaapt.

uit jou link:
[..]

Dat je dat nu linkt aan een vliegtuigkaping omdat het xxx dagen na 9/11 is geweest... Hoe verklaar je dat?


dit is geen troll, ik probeer kritisch te zijn


[quote]
Kritiek is mooi, maar dan moet je het wel in het juiste perspectief plaatsen. Zowel over Pearl Harbor als 9/11 gaan voornamelijk geruchten rond dat de boel in scene is gezet. 9/11 is al jaren een belangrijke datum voor de geheime diensten (Bay of Pigs, anyone?).

Allemaal mooi en aardig, dat Hyperdimensional Design, maar ik ga voorlopig uit van menselijke opzet. En menselijke opzet lijkt me iedere keer wéér bewezen.
Straks ga je nog beweren dat de oerhollandsche collectieve leugen die Sinterklaas heet, in Peru zorgt voor droogte. Over vijf jaar. Yeah right.

Ik sluit me aan bij de sceptische JumpAround. Je hebt niet alleen geen bewijs, je hebt zelfs geen punt. Misschien kun je iets gerichter voorspellen, dan achteraf extraheren. Nu gedraag je je als een bijbelfundi, die 3000-jaar-oude roddels ziet als bewijs om aan te tonen dat de oude Grieken fout zaten.
Jumparounddonderdag 10 september 2009 @ 11:59
sinterklaas vaart op een boot. die maken ze van hout. dat kappen ze in peru (daar is nog hout) minder bomen = minder neerslag DUS droogte in peru.
UncleScorpdonderdag 10 september 2009 @ 12:18
Wat men niet begrijpt maakt men maar belachelijk
Jumparounddonderdag 10 september 2009 @ 12:22
nee, ik stel een vraag. Ik wacht op antwoord.
Dat er tussen door een geintje wordt gemaakt... het is fok for fok sake.
sir_Tachyondonderdag 10 september 2009 @ 12:49
Meeste mensen lezen en reageren op het laatste bericht. Dus ik denk dat Dutch gewoon niet op je in gaat.
Jumparounddonderdag 10 september 2009 @ 13:52
ik denk dat Dutch dan een dagboek moet kopen sir_Tachyon.
Of moeten we dit maar voor waar aannemen? Fok is een discussieplatform, geen verzamelbak voor, in sommige mensen hun ogen, raar uit de luchtgegerepen toevalligheden.
dieenebartdonderdag 10 september 2009 @ 16:21
quote:
Op donderdag 10 september 2009 13:52 schreef Jumparound het volgende:
ik denk dat Dutch dan een dagboek moet kopen sir_Tachyon.
Of moeten we dit maar voor waar aannemen? Fok is een discussieplatform, geen verzamelbak voor, in sommige mensen hun ogen, raar uit de luchtgegerepen toevalligheden.
het is fok for fok sake
Jumparounddonderdag 10 september 2009 @ 16:33
quote:
Op donderdag 10 september 2009 16:21 schreef dieenebart het volgende:

[..]

het is fok for fok sake
ohja.. klopt...

sir_Tachyondonderdag 10 september 2009 @ 16:37
quote:
Op donderdag 10 september 2009 13:52 schreef Jumparound het volgende:
ik denk dat Dutch dan een dagboek moet kopen sir_Tachyon.
Of moeten we dit maar voor waar aannemen? Fok is een discussieplatform, geen verzamelbak voor, in sommige mensen hun ogen, raar uit de luchtgegerepen toevalligheden.
Ja maar dat is weer zo nietszeggend: in sommige mensen hun ogen. Iedereen heeft mening dus mag die ook uitten (gelukkig) maar als je er niet in gelooft dan kijk je er toch naar of volg de discussie toch gewoon niet. Ik heb altijd het gevoel dat veel mensen iedereen loopt af te kraken omdat ze dan andere mensen beschermen tegen discussies die in hun ogen niet kloppen of relevant zijn. Dat bepaalt iedereen zelf. Je kan dus altijd kritisch zijn en een grapje maken ( "Geintje" erbij zetten wil wel eens helpen) maar om iemand continu zitten af te kraken heeft geen nut. Maarja het is wel Fok for for sake. Ik vind het alleen niet zon compliment.
Jumparounddonderdag 10 september 2009 @ 16:42
waar zie je mij Dutch afkraken?
Dutch.donderdag 10 september 2009 @ 21:49
Ik heb even de tijd nodig om eea begrijpbaar in perspectief te plaatsen, er volgt dus een update. Normaal gesproken heb ik op vrijdag tijd om dit te doen. even afwachten dus
Jumparounddonderdag 10 september 2009 @ 21:56
quote:
Op donderdag 10 september 2009 21:49 schreef Dutch. het volgende:
Ik heb even de tijd nodig om eea begrijpbaar in perspectief te plaatsen, er volgt dus een update. Normaal gesproken heb ik op vrijdag tijd om dit te doen. even afwachten dus
oke, tnx
sir_Tachyondonderdag 10 september 2009 @ 23:22
quote:
Op donderdag 10 september 2009 16:42 schreef Jumparound het volgende:
waar zie je mij Dutch afkraken?
Komt waarschijnlijk wel maar ik hoop het niet. Maar over het algemeen wordt dat in THRU wel te vaak gedaan. Dus no offense.
Jumparounddonderdag 10 september 2009 @ 23:25
quote:
Op donderdag 10 september 2009 23:22 schreef sir_Tachyon het volgende:

[..]

Komt waarschijnlijk wel maar ik hoop het niet. Maar over het algemeen wordt dat in THRU wel te vaak gedaan. Dus no offense.
ik was het niet van plan in elk geval
Dutch.vrijdag 11 september 2009 @ 13:55
Last weekend I was asked to explain what I mean with ‘high impact expressions’ in our reality and as an example I referred to 9/11 as a ‘high impact’ event, that would have been a ‘low impact’ event if the attacks would have been avoided at the last moment, such as was the case with this plot to bomb several airliners in august 2006. Subconsciously I was ‘in tune’ with the hidden underlying themes that are about to be expressed, becoming apparent the next day when three men were found guilty of plotting to kill thousands of people by blowing up planes flying from London to America, the very same event I was referring to.

Whenever such a synchronicity occurs during this HDDesign ‘research’ I give it a closer look.
This terrorist attack was supposed to happen on Hyper Dimensional Cube date at macro level orientation August 16, 2006. I want to emphasize that I was already 'in tune' with the underlying patterns in relation to this plot almost a month in advance, in June 2006.

I wrote back in 2006 (full thread is listed at the bottom of this post):

“The arrest made in England related to the plot to bomb airliners were very significant. As it appeared, the assaults should have taken place on HD Cube date August 16!!!!!
Day of terror strikes was planned for August 16
15:03pm 11th August 2006

Terrorists were planning to unleash a series of deadly mid-air explosions on flights between London and America on August 16, it has been revealed today.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=400114&in_page_id=1770&ct=5

Let’s give a closer look at the trigger events I have identified on June 21, 2006

2001 - Richard Reid attempts to destroy a passenger airliner by igniting explosives hidden in his shoes aboard American Airlines Flight 63.

1988 - A bomb explodes on board Pan Am flight 103 over Lockerbie, Dumfries and Galloway, killing 270.

1995 - A chemical fire in an apartment complex in Manila, Philippines, leads to the discovery of plans for Project Bojinka, a mass-terrorist attack


On August 11 I wrote on HDDesign forum:
quote:
yesterdays events remind me of 'oplan Bojinka' , which is popping up in the material posted on this forum too.

Oplan Bojinka was a planned large-scale attack on airliners in 1995 and was prevented on January 6 and 7, 1995, but some lessons learned were apparently used by the planners of the September 11 attacks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bojinka#Airline_bombing_plot
and indeed mainstream news was mentioning 'Project Bojinka' , already determined/Identified as trigger event on June 21:
quote:
Friday August 11, 4:52 PM
London airline plot echoes 1995 Al-Qaeda plan in Asia: experts

An alleged terror plot to blow up US-bound jetliners from Britain is eerily reminiscent of a foiled 1995 Al-Qaeda conspiracy to explode planes from Asia over the Pacific Ocean, experts say.

The masterminds were Ramzi Yousef, now serving life in a US prison for his part in the bombing of the World Trade Centre in New York in 1993, and Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the brains behind the September 11, 2001, attacks on the US.

The 1995 plot was unmasked on January 6, 1995, with the plane bombs planned for January 21 and 22 that year.

http://sg.news.yahoo.com/060811/1/42q7q.html
we indeed talk about 9/11 comparable events here:

August 16, 2006 - February 12, 2009 = 911 days ( HD Tetrahedron)

February 12, 2009 +/- 1 day: today:

Belgian 'al Qaeda cell' linked to 2006 airline plot

February 11, 2009, CNN

BRUSSELS, Belgium (CNN) -- Last December 11, fourteen individuals were arrested in the early hours of the morning in one of the largest counterterrorism operations in Belgian history. Six were eventually charged with participation in a terrorist group. The others were released.

The officials told CNN that the alleged cell had connections to a senior al Qaeda operative who helped orchestrate the 2006 "Airline Plot," widely recognized as al Qaeda's most serious terror attempt since the September 11, 2001, attacks on the United States.
http://edition.cnn.com/20(...)um.terror/index.html

It appears that when I made my remarks last Sunday, Venus was at exactly the same orbital position as during the arrests in relation to this plot :

August 11 , 2006 - September 7, 2009 = 1123 days or exactly 5 Venus years in Earth days

or Venus at same orbital position as during arrests:

Monday, 7 September 2009

Three guilty of airline bomb plot

A British court convicts three men of plotting to blow up planes above the Atlantic with home-made liquid bombs.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8242238.stm

So already on June 21, 2006 I 'tuned in' on this plot

1 year prior I identified the trigger event that lead to the expectation of a 9/11 related event for July 7, 2005: the June 22, 2005 U2 crash ( see thread 'July 7 London Bombings 7-4-7 based time coded pattern' here:
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about14-hddesign.html )

Monday, 7 September 2009

Airline plot: Al-Qaeda connection

In the summer of 2006, as they were making final preparations for the plot to bring down multiple airliners over the Atlantic, both Abdulla Ahmed Ali and Assad Sarwar took time out to send e-mails to Pakistan.

They were communicating with Rashid Rauf, a British man from Birmingham who had been living in Pakistan for six years.

==snip==

So who is Rashid Rauf? Why were the plotters communicating with him about their plans?

===snip===

At the end of 2008, MI5 and MI6 wrote to Parliament's Intelligence and Security Committee to say that "in the light of recent analysis of intelligence received" Rauf may have been involved in the 7 July London bombings.

They said their assessment was that he was a "facilitator" of the attacks, and that the bombers were "directed some way by elements of al-Qaeda based overseas".

Rauf also has links to Muktar Ibrahim, the leader of the failed 21 July London bombings.

==snip==

The British intelligence assessment is that Rauf - a key figure in the 7 July attacks and the airline liquid bomb plot and possibly many others - is more likely dead than not.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8221375.stm

So I ‘tuned in’ in advance on both the July 7, 2005 London bombings and the planned August 16, 2006 terrorist attack by analysis made based on the trigger system I use and in both cases the time coded patterns and themes emerged on June 21-22 ( 2005 and 2006 )

Make sure you will review the related threads listed at the bottom in order to verify.

On September 3, 2009 I added to the timeline:

“September 9, 2009 - Venus at same orbital position as during 9/11
13 Venus years in Earth days, exactly the same timeframe as between the 2 Venus Transits of our times”

When intuition speaks

When I think of 9/11, I think of Pearl Harbor. Its the intuitive thought that pops up instantly and should unveil the hidden underlying Design while giving it a closer look by applying the identified elements of Hyper Dimensional Design. Tuning in on the hidden underlying patterns so to speak.

Pearl Harbor happened when Earth crossed the transit line of the Venus Transits of our times ( on the other side of the sun so to speak), on December 7, 1941

So:
- September 9, 2009 Venus at same orbital position as during 9/11
- same timeframe as between the 2 Venus Transits of our times between 9/11 and September 9, 2009
- Pearl harbor while Earth crossing the transit line of these same 2 Venus Transits.

I decided to calculate the 2 Phi points between Pearl Harbor and September 9, 2009, spiralling inwards and outwards so to speak.

Pearl harbor December 7, 1941 - September 9, 2009 = 24.748 days

Phipoints:

Outwards 24.748 / Phi 2.61803399 = 9.453 days
Inwards 24.748 / Phi 1.61803399 = 15.295 days

corresponding dates: October 25, 1967 and October 23, 1983

I thought Venus should give confirmation....

On these 2 Phi- points Venus is at the same orbital position!!

October 25, 1967 - October 23, 1983 = 5.842 days

Venus at same orbital position: 5.842 / 224.68 = 26 Venus years in Earth days

and exactly 2 times the timeframe between the 2 Venus Transits of our times!!!

Pearl Harbour and 9/11 were the initial events that would drag the US into WWII and the war on terror. The fact that Venus seems to confirm their connectedness in the Design of our times by pinpointing at both the Phi-points, made me think of September 9, 2009 being a Phi point itself in relation to the end of the Mayan calendar. With pearl harbour and 9/11 in mind, it unveils the underlying theme that is potentially hanging above the heads of the US citizens ( quite literally):

September 9, 2009 is Phi point ( outwards ) between end of Mayan calendar and:
August 30, 2007 - United States Air Force nuclear weapons incident
http://en.wikipedia.org/w(...)ear_weapons_incident

Remember it is only potentially there, its possible to ‘lessen the impact’ so to speak. It all depends on how we deal with it

More plane terror plots 'likely'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8244065.stm

On September 9, 2009, Josmar Flores Pereira expressed these underlying themes in the probably most subtle way by hijacking a plane in Mexico.

Minister suspect in hijacking said 9/9/9 date a divine sign
http://edition.cnn.com/20(...)hijacking/index.html

We better try to understand that its NOT a coincidence that he did this at this specific moment in our perception of time.

Q3 2009 Timeline: July, August and September 2009
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about387-hddesign.html
July 7 London Bombings 7-4-7 based timecoded pattern
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about14-hddesign.html
HD Cube Augst 16 and 911 based September 8
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about135-hddesign.html
July 1 -July 12 tsunami echo timeframe
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about118-hddesign.html
Jumparoundvrijdag 11 september 2009 @ 14:05
Oke, ik wil best wel proberen te begrijpen dat het geen toeval is Dutch, en zoals ik al eerder aangaf, ik wi je ook niet dwars zitten...
Ik zal in mn achterhoofd houden dat dit een trigger event KAN zijn, maar als je kijkt naar impact (Death Toll Pearl harbour = 2350, 9/11 6000+) steekt het schril af tegen deze vliegtuigkaping (Aantal doden: 0)

Dat en de beweegreden van deze vermeende terrorist nemen mijn sceptisies niet helemaal weg.
Maar ik hou deze dag in de gaten!

Bedankt voor de uitleg!
Dutch.vrijdag 11 september 2009 @ 22:22
weet je,

er is momenteel zoveel tegelijk gaande dat je eigenlijk de berichten van vanavond moet lezen, in chronologische volgorde:

je kan gewoon inloggen als 'reader'met password 'reader' en bekijk de berichten van vandaag. Een update hier op dit forum komt ergens volgende week


http://hddesign.forumup.nl/index.php?mforum=hddesign
Dutch.vrijdag 11 september 2009 @ 22:39
quote:
Op vrijdag 11 september 2009 14:05 schreef Jumparound het volgende:
Oke, ik wil best wel proberen te begrijpen dat het geen toeval is Dutch, en zoals ik al eerder aangaf, ik wi je ook niet dwars zitten...
Ik zal in mn achterhoofd houden dat dit een trigger event KAN zijn, maar als je kijkt naar impact (Death Toll Pearl harbour = 2350, 9/11 6000+) steekt het schril af tegen deze vliegtuigkaping (Aantal doden: 0)

Dat en de beweegreden van deze vermeende terrorist nemen mijn sceptisies niet helemaal weg.
Maar ik hou deze dag in de gaten!

Bedankt voor de uitleg!
precies! des te groter de kennis en betrokkenheid met wat er eigenlijk gebeurd, des te subtieler wordt onze realiteit vorm gegeven.
Dutch.zaterdag 19 september 2009 @ 21:52
From the timeline:

September 18, 2009 - Phi point inwards Venus Transit 2004 & end of Mayan Calendar

The Phi points outwards was around September 12, 2007. From the timeline Q3 2007:
quote:
September 11 + 12 ( +/- 1day) should be considered a timeframe

September 11, 2007 - Hyper Dimensional Tetrahedron date ( macrolevel)
Mars at same geometrical position as during the 555 awakenings starttriggerdate related to 9/11
Mercury The Messenger at same geometrical postion as during the awakenings starttriggerdate related to the assassination of Rafik Hariri
Venus at same geometrical position as during the 911 (HD Tetrahedron) based starttrigger related to August 6, 1945 : Hirhoshima
Mercury at same postion as during Ascension starttrigger Pearl Harbor, just as Mercury was on July 12 in relation to Peral harbor and the 911 based (Tetrahedron) control frame. ( July 12: dirty bomb / terror threat )
Mercury 'The Messenger' at same postion as during 911 based HD Tetrahedron starttrigger date related to flight 522 crash
German, Danish authorities thwart al Qaeda-linked terrorist plots, round up suspects, as 9/11 anniversary approaches
http://www.debka.com/send.php?type=headline&hid=4567
Bin Laden 'to issue 9/11 video'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6982803.stm
Russia-US deal 'helped Karadzic' ( see post in thread for explanation)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6986858.stm
Lebanon camp siege head 'escaped'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6987423.stm
New bin Laden video surfaces
http://www.cnn.com/2007/W(...)den.video/index.html
Wiretaps 'foiled terror attacks'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6988477.stm
Dozens hurt by rocket in Israel, Ministers demand effective military action
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6988463.stm
Six years on, America marks September 11 attacks
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/(...)-6years-7e07afd.html
ETA targets Spanish government building in failed car bomb
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/(...)ues-eta-6b0205e.html
US experts arrive in North Korea
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6988455.stm
UN calls for $55 million to rebuild refugee camp in northern Lebanon
http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=23753&Cr=leban&Cr1=
Turkish police find 'large' bomb
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6988697.stm
9/11 bomb threat at U.S. Air Base
http://www.cnn.com/2007/W(...)ny.threat/index.html
Bin Laden tape no great shakes, FBI director says
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/09/11/mueller.bin.laden/index.html
Sources confirm Israeli airstrike on Syria
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/09/11/israel.syria/index.html
Castro accuses US of 9/11 conspiracy
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/(...)-politi-7e07afd.html
Islamic group claims planned attack on US base in Germany
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/(...)s-group-7e07afd.html
Syria complains to UN over Israel
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6989961.stm
New Bin Laden Video: 100% Forgery
http://www.infowars.net/articles/september2007/100907BinLaden.htm

Location: leading Hyper Dimensional Octehedron area, Indonesia
Time: Leading Hyper Dimensional Tetrahedron timeframe
Powerful quake strikes Indonesia
http://www.cnn.com/2007/W(...)sia.quake/index.html
[quote]PHI POINT !

The december 26, 2004 Sumatra Quake was probably Hyper Dimensionally initiated / related to the June 8, 2004 Venus passage.

When intuition speaks.....

I decided to check todays quake in Indonesia with the June 8 Venus transit :

1191 days

I expected it to be a possible Phi point and quess what:

1191 times 1.61803399 = 1927 days

1927 days after September 12, 2007 :

December 21, 2012 The end of the Mayan Calender!
Oh yes, right on schedule, the expected development in relation to the Hariri case during the HD Tetrahedron timeframe:
Secretary-General moves to set up judges’ selection panel for Lebanon tribunal
http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=23782&Cr=leban&Cr1=
Indonesia rattled by earthquakes
http://www.cnn.com/2007/W(...)sia.quake/index.html
Israel's Syria 'raid' remains a mystery
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6991718.stm
Report: Israel spots nuclear installations in Syria
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3448829,00.html
CNN: Mystery 9/11 aircraft was military 'doomsday plane'
http://rawstory.com//news(...)sday_plane_0913.html

finally: The New York Times: U.S. Official Says Syria May Have Nuclear Ties
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/15/world/middleeast/15intel.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin

and:

French FM Kouchner: The Iranian nuclear crisis forces the world to prepare for the worst - which is war
quote:
In a series of press, radio and TV interviews, Sunday, Sept. 16, Bernard Kouchner also said he had advised large French companies not to respond to tenders issued by Tehran. DEBKAfile adds: France thus joined the economic sanctions imposed by the US, Britain, Japan and Germany on Iran for refusing to give up uranium enrichment, but implicit in Kouchner’s advice was a word of caution to French companies to stay clear of business complications with a nation on the brink of war.

The French foreign minister, who is clearly focusing on the Middle East, spoke shortly after visits to Iraq, Lebanon and Israel and the Israeli air force operation over Syria ten days ago. Paris sees ominous signals in the expanding Iranian intervention in combat against US forces in Iraq by stepped up weapons deliveries to the insurgents and their training, and the rising military tensions between Israel and Syria – all under the cloud of the nuclear issue.
http://www.debka.com/send.php?type=headline&hid=4585[/quote]

Just like the Phi point outwards around September 12, 2007, the same theme is getting momentum again around the phi points inwards around September 18, 2009 ( with end of Mayan calendar on December 23, 2012. With end of Mayan Calendar on December 21, 2012 Phi point is September 16, 2009 )

today September 16:

Iran 'must discuss' nuclear issue
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8258123.stm

and again its a Frenchman :

Sep 16, 2009
Sarkozy: Iran working on nukes today
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1251804582184&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

Hariri gets second chance as PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8259291.stm

Iraq and Syria at talks in Turkey
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8261805.stm

First rocky planet found outside solar system
http://edition.cnn.com/20(...)ky.planet/index.html

I have been monitoring this current timeframe and noticed that this Phi point is showing an echo of the other Phipoint back in September 2007.

Let's take a look at the at the events during both Phi points that seem to express the same underlying themes:

in random order:

Venus Transit June 8, 2004 - end of Mayan Calendar

Phi point outwards around September 12, 2007

1- Shinzo Abe, the current Prime Minister of Japan, announces his resignation. Shinzo Abe is hospitalised the day after his resignation.

2- French FM Kouchner: The Iranian nuclear crisis forces the world to prepare for the worst - which is war

3- 2007 Formula One Season: The Fédération Internationale de l'Automobile (FIA) fines the McLaren Formula One team $US100 million and removes all its points in the Constructors' Championship.

4- Vladimir Putin sacks Mikhail Fradkov's Second Cabinet and nominates Viktor Zubkov as his replacement.

5- Russian pressure 'saved Karadzic'

6- Airstrikes and Afghan army gunfire kills more than 45 Taliban insurgents on the first day of Ramadan.

7- Castro accuses US of 9/11 conspiracy

8- Secretary-General moves to set up judges’ selection panel for Lebanon/Hariri tribunal

9- Suicide bomber kills 18 in Dera Ismail Khan of Pakistan.
and: At least fifteen Pakistani Army soldiers die in a bombing at their mess at the Terbella Ghazi base north of Islamabad.

10- Impact of Meteorite at Carancas in Peru. This meteorite impact in Peru leads to hundreds of nearby villagers falling ill from still unknown causes.

11- At least 10 people are killed and 15 wounded in a suicide bombing outside a Baghdad bakery as residents prepared to break their Ramadan fast.

12- Wiretaps 'foiled terror attacks'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6988477.stm

13- US experts arrive in North Korea
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6988455.stm

14- Melting sea ice in the Arctic Ocean opens up the Northwest Passage between Europe, Asia and North America.

15 -What do you think of these ones, echo below:
Russian President Vladimir Putin fires the chief of the Russian Navy Vladimir Masorin
and
Vladimir Putin sacks Mikhail Fradkov's Second Cabinet and nominates Viktor Zubkov as his replacement.

16 - 9/11 bomb threat at U.S. Air Base Germany
http://www.cnn.com/2007/W(...)ny.threat/index.html

17 - Powerful quake strikes Indonesia
http://www.cnn.com/2007/W(...)sia.quake/index.html


Phi point inwards around September 16-18, 2009

1- Hatoyama elected as Japan's prime minister

2- Sarkozy: Iran working on nukes today

3- Renault's F1 boss Flavio Briatore resigns as team says it will not dispute Singapore race-fixing allegations.

4- Medvedev won't rule out new term

5- Outrage at early release of Bosnian Serb 'Iron Lady' Biljana Plavsic
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/(...)-plavsi-6b0205e.html

6- Mass grave unearthed in Afghanistan
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/(...)t-crime-575b600.html

7- Cuba to ask US to end trade embargo

8- Al-Hariri renominated for PM job

9- Terror cell leader arrested in Pakistan
http://edition.cnn.com/20(...)n.arrests/index.html and Deadly blast hits Pakistan market:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8262199.stm

10- Rare meteorite found by 'fireball' observatory
http://www.newscientist.c(...)all-observatory.html

11- Deadly bomb hits Iraqi shoppers
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8263792.stm

12- Sources: NY transportation hub likely target of terror plot
http://edition.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/09/18/terror.raid/index.html

13- N Korea 'ready for nuclear talks'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8262223.stm

14- Pause in Arctic's melting trend
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8261953.stm

15 - Russian president denies Putin has all the power
I'm not Putin puppet, Russian president tells CNN
http://edition.cnn.com/20(...).medvedev/index.html

16 - Germany boosts terrorism alert level
http://edition.cnn.com/20(...)y.alqaeda/index.html

17 - Earthquake strikes off Bali coast
An earthquake off the Indonesian holiday island of Bali has sent people running from their homes in panic.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8264169.stm

Especially the latest one is in the face. Last night I was in a chat and said that I actually expected something to happen tomorrow ( saturday) that would make you think of the Sumatra quake/tsunami and thats exactly the first thing I came to know about when I got online today.

Timeline Q3 2009:
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about387-hddesign.html
you can login as 'reader' with password 'reader'
Dutch.dinsdag 22 september 2009 @ 13:02
from this new thread calles "experimental prediction".
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?p=8881&mforum=hddesign#8881
quote:
I have logged a prediction at 19 Sep 2009 10:16 pm GMT as a private message to myself.
this was the prediction:
quote:
From: Dutch
To: Dutch
Posted: 19 Sep 2009 10:16 pm
Subject: prediction 1
in about 5 days from now ( september 20, 2009) I expect an echo related to the september 2007 israeli raid on Syrian nuclear facilities, probably Iran

_________________
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
Dozens of Israeli warplanes fly low over Gaza in show of muscle for Iran
DEBKAfile Exclusive Report
September 22, 2009

military sources report that dozens of low-flying Israeli Air Force warplanes coasted over the Hamas-ruled Gaza Strip for two hours Monday, Sept. 21 in a show of strength unparalleled since 100 IAF jets practiced long-distance flights in June 2008 against Russian-made S-300 anti-missile systems based in Greece.

The show of air strength, over Gaza City and the southern towns of Deir el Balakh, Khan Younes and Rafah ,was timed for prime minister Binyamin Netanyahu's departure for New York and defense minister Ehud Barak's arrival in Washington for talks with defense secretary Robert Gates.

It was planned by the two Israeli leaders - and prompted by chief of staff Lt. Gen. Gaby Ashkenazi - in the realization of the need to restore some bite to Israel's deterrent strength against a hostile Iran and its proxies, Hizballah and Hamas. This strength was badly dented by a spate of ill-judged statements over last weekend.

Out of the blue, Barak told a press interviewer Thursday, Sept. 17, that Iran was no threat to Israel's existence. Two days later, Brig. Tal Rousso, director of operations in the IDF general staff, repeated the comment.

Sunday, the defense minister advised the NYT: "The central challenge for the US now was how to handle North Korea's nuclear weapons because that would greatly influence Iran." It sounded as though Iran was an afterthought. Washington found his comment on US-North Korean relations both unwanted and far-fetched.

On Sunday too, Russian president Dmitry Medvedev told the CNN: "My Israeli colleagues assure me they are not planning to attack Iran." President Shimon Peres was cited as one of those "colleagues."

The general effect of these statements, which flatly contradicted the policies of every Israeli government and member, was of muddle and loss of focus in Jerusalem and Tel Aviv.

Our military sources report that Monday, Sept. 21, the prime minister and chief of staff accordingly got together on ways to control the damage these statements had caused Israel's deterrence. The harm was compounded by the negative impact of the one-sided UN report accusing Israel of war crimes in the Gaza War and suggesting Israel officers could face trial before foreign courts.

Netanyahu and Ashkenazi made it their first priority to blot out the impression that Israel had retreated from its military option against Iran's nuclear weapons bid before the two Iran-backed terrorist groups, Hizballah in Lebanon and Hamas in Gaza, decided to exploit Israel's apparent softening.

The Israeli army chief there and then delivered a statement to the army radio network stressing that Israel's military operation against Iran was still very much on the table. He later warned: The Goldstone Report must not be used by terrorists as a license to strike from civilian population. Israel would not let this happen in the future either.

His words resonated hardly at all through the world media. Hoping for a bigger splash - at least on US, Iranian and Arab radar - he ordered the Israeli Air Force , too, recognizing the need to correct the impression he had created, informed Gates in Washington that Israel stood by its right to strike Iran's nuclear sites.

http://www2.debka.com/headline.php?hid=6277

Chatlog from Friday September 19, just prior to the prediction posted:

Marcel=Dutch

(10:05:56 PM) Marcel: it wouldn't amaze me if an israeli raid would strike nuclearfacilities in a few days, just wanted to have it said
(10:06:25 PM) Henrik: OK, is it timecodes related to the Lebanon war?
(10:06:46 PM) Henrik: you mean in Iran?
(10:07:05 PM) Marcel: Phi point echo from the Syria raid back in 2007
(10:07:35 PM) Marcel: I think around 5 days from this 'peak' phi point today
(10:07:42 PM) Marcel: makes sep 23
(10:08:20 PM) Marcel: there are alot of echoes of the timeframe occurring this timeframe
(10:08:25 PM) Marcel: monitoring
(10:09:05 PM) Marcel: goro has posted about the phi point back in 2007
(10:09:17 PM) Marcel: I told him back then
(10:09:49 PM) Marcel: its now at etemenanki
(10:09:56 PM) Henrik: I'll keep this in mind and save it
(10:10:18 PM) Marcel: yes log it for future use
(10:10:41 PM) Marcel: these are 'synchronicities' that should be logged
(10:12:27 PM) Marcel: also
(10:13:15 PM) Marcel: expecting something this weekend that makes you think of the Sumatra quake tsunami
edit: happened the next day
(10:13:21 PM) Henrik: Do you still read STRUG?
(10:13:25 PM) Marcel: no
(10:13:28 PM) Henrik: ok..
(10:13:39 PM) Marcel: its the picture at the mainsite
(10:13:55 PM) Marcel: referrring to the previous Phi point
(10:14:04 PM) Marcel: I told him by email
(10:16:00 PM) Marcel: I'm monitoring THIS phipoint compared to the one back in 2007 ( between Venus Transit and end of mayan calendar )
(10:16:16 PM) Marcel: alot of echoes but still monitoring
(10:16:42 PM) Marcel: so far:
(10:17:10 PM) Marcel: http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.ph ... esign#8866
(10:17:52 PM) Marcel: another 2 days to go + a possible raid a few days later
Dutch.dinsdag 22 september 2009 @ 13:32
hitting mainstream, BBC:

Monday, 21 September 2009

Israel's 'options open' on Iran

Israel has not ruled out any options in dealing with Iran's nuclear programme, a senior Israeli official has said.

Deputy Foreign Minister Danny Ayalon said there was no guarantee Israel would not launch a strike on Iran's nuclear facilities.

read on:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8267189.stm
Dutch.woensdag 23 september 2009 @ 22:14
edit September 23:
September 19-23 , 2009 - On the evening of September 19 I logged this prediction: in about 5 days from now ( september 20, 2009) I expect an echo related to the september 2007 israeli raid on Syrian nuclear facilities, probably Iran

Dozens of Israeli warplanes fly low over Gaza in show of muscle for Iran
"Israel stood by its right to strike Iran's nuclear sites."
http://www2.debka.com/headline.php?hid=6277

Israel's 'options open' on Iran
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8267189.stm

Iran leader warns against attack
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8268558.stm

Iran downs strange bright craft over Persian Gulf
http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=106809§ionid=351020101
Dutch.woensdag 30 september 2009 @ 21:51
So a few weeks ago I wrote about the 'Grand Cross Alignment of August 18, 1999' and how this Grand cross could be 'translated' into Earth's orbital positions.

I wrote:

" The astrological Grand Cross alignment of August 18, 1999 ( 'as above' ) was the first 'marker' on Earth's orbit in order to determine a Grand Cross as created with Earth's orbital positions ( 'so below' )

The second 'marker' was the planetary alignment of May 5, 2000 so the last 2 orbital positions of the Grand Cross on Earth's orbit could be calculated: December 26 ( Sumatra quake /Tsunami ) and June 26"

June 26 has ofcourse already been mentioned on the timeline for Q2 2010:
quote:
June 26, 2010 - Grand Cross

As above, so below...Grand Cross orbital position in relation to Grand Cross Alignment August 18, 1999, alignment of May 5, 2000 and December 26, 2004 ( tsunami ) , see 'breaking the code' thread.
"The year 2010 creates a grand cross of planets on a Holy Cross such as only occurs once in a Great Year cycle. Jupiter will be with Uranus at the spring equinox opposite Saturn at the fall equinox and these will be square again to the galactic and solstice axes.
In June the aspect is intensified by the transiting Sun passing opposite the Galactic Centre and on June 26 2010 a Full Moon opposite the Sun joins this amazing aspect around the Earth."

But that's not all........

This is similar in reversed form to the Tsunami aspects of December 2004

From: 2010 the Year of the Volcano
[url=http://www.scribd.com/doc/17388684/2010-the-Year-of-the-Volcano
]http://www.scribd.com/doc/17388684/2010-the-Year-of-the-Volcano[/quote][/url]

When I determined these orbital Grand cross positions back in August, I knew that I had to keep an eye on the planets orbital positions during the Grand Cross Alignment of August 18, 1999, because when one of these planets would reach the same orbital position again it could very well be that a 'confirmation' could be expected of these underlying themes in the Design of our times.

That's why I added to the timeline of Q3, 2009 on September 21, 2009:
quote:
updated September 29, 2009:

Mercury the Messenger at same orbital position as during The Grand Cross Aligbment of August 18, 1999
and a 'confirmation' of the hidden underlying themes is:

from the timeline Q3 2009:

Samoan Islands earthquake generates 10-foot tsunami

(CNN) -- An earthquake with a magnitude of 7.9 struck in the Samoan Islands region Tuesday, the U.S. Geological Survey said.
http://edition.cnn.com/20(...)arthquake/index.html

Powerful quake off Samoa islands

A powerful earthquake has struck near the Samoa islands, triggering a potentially destructive tsunami along the coasts of several Pacific nations.

The Pacific Tsunami Warning Centre (PTWC) upgraded the quake to magnitude 8.3 from 7.9 earlier recorded by the US Geological Survey.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8281616.stm

Deadly tsunami in Pacific islands
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8281616.stm

"I thought it was the end of the world"
http://edition.cnn.com/20(...)arthquake/index.html

I wrote:
quote:
The astrological Grand Cross alignment of August 18, 1999 ( 'as above' ) was the first 'marker' on Earth's orbit in order to determine a Grand Cross as created with Earth's orbital positions ( 'so below' )
now with Mercury the Messenger at same orbital position as during The Grand Cross Aligbment of August 18, 1999, we have again 2 'as above - so below' expressions. A powerful 8.3 quake followed by a tsunami 'so below' and an actual flyby of spacecraft Messenger of planet Mercury!

NASA Spacecraft Closes in on Mercury for Flyby
http://www.space.com/scie(...)ury-third-flyby.html

and

another one: Tsunami warning following Indonesia quake
http://edition.cnn.com/20(...)arthquake/index.html
The quake was along the same fault line that spawned the 2004 Asian tsunami that killed more than 230,000 people in a dozen countries.

related threads:
Q3 2009 Timeline: July, August and September 2009
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about387-hddesign.html
Grand Cross
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about413-hddesign.html
Breaking the Code
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about6-hddesign.html
Q2 2010 april. may and June
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about401-hddesign.html
Dutch.woensdag 30 september 2009 @ 22:20
OMG!

as you can see on the timeline of Q2 2010 I have added 2 underlying themes for June 26, 2010. From that timeline:
quote:
June 26, 2010 - 'on top' Grand Cross, read related posts on page 1 of this thread
San Andreas fault
Exit of Sun King
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?p=8131&mforum=hddesign#8131

After I ( cross )posted my previous post about the Grand Cross/ Sumatra quake/Tsunami etc. I decided to check BBC for the latest news and look at this synchronicity:´

Its really ´in the face´ :

Wednesday, 30 September 2009

Earthquakes weaken distant faults

The major 2004 earthquake in Sumatra may have weakened the San Andreas fault, 8,000km away in California.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8283873.stm
Dutch.vrijdag 2 oktober 2009 @ 13:25
The astrological Grand Cross alignment of August 18, 1999 ( 'as above' ) was the first 'marker' on Earth's orbit in order to determine a Grand Cross as created with Earth's orbital positions ( 'so below' ).

The second 'marker' was the planetary alignment of May 5, 2000 so the last 2 orbital positions of the Grand Cross on Earth's orbit could be calculated: December 26 ( Sumatra quake /Tsunami ) and June 26.

I had put this hidden underlying Design on the timeline for around September 29, 2009 a priory.

We have seen that Mercury 'The Messenger' was at the same orbital position around September 29, 2009 as during the Grand Cross Alignment of August 18, 1999:

August 18, 1999 - September 29, 2009 = 3.695 Earth days

or 42 mercury years * 87.9691 Earth days = 3.695 Earth days , Mercury 'The Messenger' at the same orbital position.

Several severe Eartquakes and tsunami's around September 29, 2009 were 'confirming' this hidden underlying Design as expressions of the determined Grand Cross orbital position marked by the December 26, 2004 9+ Sumatra quake / tsunami.

Today I thought that it would be a very strong confirmation if the second marker, the planetary alignment of May 5, 2000, also could be confirmed by planetary orbital positions in the way Mercury does for the August 18, 1999 planetary alignment.

I checked and the confirmation popped up instantly:

Its Mars at the same orbital position around September 29, 2009 as during the planetary alignment of May 5, 2000:

May 5, 2000 - September 29, 2009 = 3.434 Earth days

5 Mars years * 686.971 = 3.434 Earth days or
Mars at the same orbital position.
Dutch.zaterdag 3 oktober 2009 @ 22:54
First you have to read the posts on this page about Deep Impact / Epoxi spaceship expressing Pi in space:

http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?p=7585&mforum=hddesign#7585
quote:
Read carefully,

this is so profound....when intuition speaks:

Deep Impact on comet Temple I happened on July 4, 2005

Deep Impact/Epoxi - Moon - Earth Transit happened at ascension starttriggerdate of the end of the Mayan Calendar, on May 29, 2008.

next scheduled Deep Impact/Epoxi spacecraft flyby of comet Hartley 2: October 11, 2010.

As we have seen in previous posts and on the timeline, this May 29, 2008 timeframe of the Transit had a big emphasis on Pi, unveiling the correlations between Pi, ascension timframe, orbital positions, Deep Impact and the end of the Mayan Calendar

Wouldn't it be an unmistaken confirmation to find Pi expressed by these three events in space: Deep Impact on Temple I, the Epoxi - moon - Earth transit and the comet Hartley 2 flyby?

Wouldn't you think that if a Pi connection is there, it would be an unmistaken indication of hidden underlying Intelligent Design?

fasten year seatbelt: Pi IS expressed by these Deep Impact events:

Timeframe Deep Impact on comet Temple I - comet Hartley flyby / Pi

is the same as:

Pi * difference between:

Deep Impact on Temple I - Epoxi / Moon / Eart Transit

and

Epoxii / Moom / Earth Transit - comet Hartly flyby

or in numbers:

July 4, 2005 ( Deep Impact Temple I) - October 11, 2010 ( comet hartley flyby of spacecraft Deep Impact/Epoxi) = 1925 days rounded

July 4, 2005 - May 29, 2008 Epoxi - Moon transit = 1060 days rounded

May 29, 2008 Epoxi/moon/Earth Transit - October 11, 2010 comet Hartly flyby = 865 days rounded

The difference between 1060 and 865 is 195 days

1925 / Pi = 195 * Pi

or

1925 / Pi / Pi is the difference between the timeframes from the Epoxi/moon/Earth Transit and the 2 Deep Ipact spacecraft events!!

This is so beautiful and fundamental.
and followed by this:
quote:
So Nasa seems to choose the Transits as 'communication' marker.

We have just seen the Pi connection expressed by the Deep Impact/ Epoxi spacecraft -Moon-Earth Transit and the 2 comet encounters with Temple I and Hartlet, on May 29, 2008,

You can call this an 'artificial' transit with Deep Impact taking these awsome Transit images.

Deep Impact and Transits.......

expressing Pi on May 29, 2008.....

Deep Impact was launched on January 12, 2005

That was during another Transit......

and also here we have a camera out there in space to watch....

Transit of Mercury from Mars

A transit of Mercury across the Sun as seen from Mars takes place when the planet Mercury passes directly between the Sun and Mars, obscuring a small part of the Sun's disc for an observer on Mars. During a transit, Mercury can be seen from Mars as a small black disc moving across the face of the Sun.

taking pictures or 'communicating'?

The Mars Rovers Spirit and Opportunity could have observed the transit on January 12, 2005 (from 14:45 UTC to 23:05 UTC); however the only camera available for this had insufficient resolution. Ephemeris data generated by JPL Horizons indicates that Opportunity would be able to observe the transit from the start until local sunset at about 19:23 UTC, while Spirit would be able to observe it from local sunrise at about 19:38 UTC until the end of the transit.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transit_of_Mercury_from_Mars

Well you might think...... 2 of these Transits.....its all just a coincidence.....who cares?......let's sleep a night and forget about it, tomorrow a next day.......

January 13, 2005

What's the news today?

are you kidding, another Transit?

Transit of Earth from Saturn

A transit of Earth across the Sun as seen from Saturn takes place when the planet Earth passes directly between the Sun and Saturn, obscuring a small part of the Sun's disc for an observer on Saturn. During a transit, Earth can be seen from Saturn as a small black disc moving across the face of the sun.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transit_of_Earth_from_Saturn

Well, I hear you thinking...... that's far away and it happens maybe 4 times in a century or so, and ofcourse we are not present this time.

No?

Yes!

Naturally, no one has ever seen a transit of Earth from Saturn, nor is this likely to happen in any foreseeable future. The last one took place on January 13-14, 2005 -- though the Cassini probe was present in the Saturn system, it was also the day of the Huygens probe mission.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transit_of_Earth_from_Saturn

Huygens separated from the Cassini orbiter on December 25, 2004, and landed on Titan on January 14, 2005 near the Xanadu region.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huygens_probe

It touched down on land during the Transit

unfortunately also here no pictures........again....( what a fool believes....)

Furthermore, the angular resolution needed to capture the occultation was near the limits of Cassini's imaging subsystem, to say nothing of the concerns of pointing the probe's camera directly at the Sun.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transit_of_Earth_from_Saturn

Oh, and its all just a coincidence ofcourse...........
In a few days from now we will again experience a Deep Impact in space, on October 9, 2009 :

"On June 18, 2009, NASA launched this new "double mission" -- a SUV-sized spacecraft called "Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter" (LRO), designed to map the entire lunar surface in unprecedented detail over the next five years (and, several times); and, a "piggy-back" spacecraft, called the "Lunar Crater Observation and Sensing Satellite" (LCROSS), designed to direct the spent upper stage of the Atlas 5 LRO launch vehicle (the "Centaur" second stage) into a carefully targeted impact with the lunar surface on October 9, 2009. "

First thought in relation to this Impact on the moon is of course the Deep Impact on comet Templ I on July 4, 2005.

July 4, 2005 - October 9, 2009 = 1.558 days

Phi point at 1.558 / 1,61803399 = 963 days

is February 21, 2008

with an impact in space:

U.S. Satellite Shootdown
http://www.spectrum.ieee.(...)own-the-inside-story
Sources: Navy to shoot down failed satellite Thursday February 21
http://www.cnn.com/2008/T(...)intercept/index.html
So we have 3 impacts in space, all manmade: Temple I, satellite and Moon.

expressing the Golden Mean Phi

So now we have both Pi and Phi expressed in space in relation to the Deep Impact mission.

It should make you think why The Golden Mean is expressed this way. These 3 events are manmade so the communication is 'outgoing'.

This lunar impact is intelligently determined

the question is, is NASA doing this consciously and if so: to who are they talking than?
if NASA is doing this without intent, just 'by coincidence' expressing both Pi and Phi in space with this Deep Impact mission, than its an unmistaken indication of hidden underlying Design in our reality.

If the first is true than we have to understand that there has been an 'incoming' communication too expressing the Golden
Mean Phi in relation to Deep Impact: with these markers:
The use of nuclear weapons ( hirhoshima- Nagasaki) and the Tunguska event.

NASA's 'communication' with this lunar impact is either a rather 'violent'
message with these impacts in space or even 'hostile' if the 'communication' is consciously planned.

Q4 2009 Timeline, October, November and December 2009
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about386-hddesign.html
Flammiezondag 4 oktober 2009 @ 00:16
Zeker interessant.
Dutch.woensdag 7 oktober 2009 @ 11:08
quote:
This lunar impact is intelligently determined

the question is, is NASA doing this consciously and if so: to who are they talking than?
if NASA is doing this without intent, just 'by coincidence' expressing both Pi and Phi in space with this Deep Impact mission, than its an unmistaken indication of hidden underlying Design in our reality.

If the first is true than we have to understand that there has been an 'incoming' communication too expressing the Golden
Mean Phi in relation to Deep Impact: with these markers:
The use of nuclear weapons ( hirhoshima- Nagasaki) and the Tunguska event.

NASA's 'communication' with this lunar impact is either a rather 'violent'
message with these impacts in space or even 'hostile' if the 'communication' is consciously planned.
I suddenly had this thought while at work and decided to check.

I wanted to see if the Phi point between the 'incoming communication' Tunguska event on june 30, 1908 and this lunar landing on October 9, 2009 would give confirmation of the underlying Design.

June 30, 1908 - October 9, 2009 = 36.992 days

Phi point is at 36.992 / 1.61803399 = 22.862 days

we talk about the timeframe around February 2, 1971

a timeframe that showed another 'impact' on the moon:

On January 31, 1971 Apollo 14 (carrying astronauts Alan Shepard, Stuart Roosa, and Edgar Mitchell) lifts off on the third successful lunar landing mission. The Apollo 14 landed on the Moon on February 5, 1971.

Apollo 14 was the eighth manned mission in the Apollo program and the third mission to land on the Moon. The nine-day mission was launched on January 31, 1971, with lunar touch down on February 5. The Lunar Module landed in the Fra Mauro formation; this had originally been the target of the ill-fated Apollo 13 mission. During the two lunar EVA's over 100 pounds of moon rock was collected and several surface experiments, including seismic studies, were carried out. Commander Alan Shepard famously hit two golf balls on the lunar surface with a make-shift club he had brought from Earth. Command Module Pilot Stuart Roosa took several hundred seeds on the mission, many of which were germinated on return resulting in the so called Moon trees.

The crew got some good-natured razzing in the astronaut office[citation needed] as the first "all-rookie" Apollo crew (Shepard's 1961 flight on Freedom 7 was a suborbital flight).

Shepard was the oldest U.S. astronaut when he made his trip aboard Apollo 14.[2] He is the only astronaut from Project Mercury (the original Mercury Seven astronauts) to reach the Moon. Another of the original seven, Gordon Cooper, had originally been scheduled to command the mission, but according to Chaikin, his casual attitude toward training, along with problems with NASA hierarchy (reaching all the way back to the Mercury-Atlas 9 flight) resulted in his removal.

The mission was a personal triumph for Shepard, who had battled back from Ménière’s disease which grounded him from 1964 to 1968. He and his crew were originally scheduled to fly on Apollo 13, but in 1969 NASA Administrators switched the scheduled crews for Apollo 13 and 14. This was done to place the more experienced Apollo 8 veteran James Lovell in command of what would have been the first lunar landing mission if both Apollo 11 and Apollo 12 had failed to successfully land.

As of 2009, Mitchell is the only surviving member of the crew; Roosa died in 1994 from pancreatitis and Shepard in 1998 from leukemia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_14

So the Tunguska message IS connected to this Apollo 14 moonlanding mission and this October 9, 2009 moon Impact!
Dutch.vrijdag 9 oktober 2009 @ 12:32
So today mankind will cause another Impact in space.
Just like Deep Impact on comet Temple I on July 4, 2005, we will crash on the moon twice today October 9.

I have talked about the Pi correlations that are expressed with the Deep Impact/Epoxi spacemission and I recommend to reread previous posts aboout this Pi-connection.

Its the Golden Mean Phi that unveils the connectedness between these manmade impacts in space, at Phi point in between these 2 impacts we have seen another manmade Impact in space: the satellite shootdown of February 21, 2008.

I wrote on October 3:
quote:
So now we have both Pi and Phi expressed in space in relation to the Deep Impact mission.

It should make you think why The Golden Mean is expressed this way. These 3 events are manmade so the communication is 'outgoing'.

This lunar impact is intelligently determined

the question is, is NASA doing this consciously and if so: to who are they talking than?
if NASA is doing this without intent, just 'by coincidence' expressing both Pi and Phi in space with this Deep Impact mission, than its an unmistaken indication of hidden underlying Design in our reality.

If the first is true than we have to understand that there has been an 'incoming' communication too expressing the Golden
Mean Phi in relation to Deep Impact: with these markers:
The use of nuclear weapons ( hirhoshima- Nagasaki) and the Tunguska event.

NASA's 'communication' with this lunar impact is either a rather 'violent'
message with these impacts in space or even 'hostile' if the 'communication' is consciously planned.
On October 7 I added:
quote:
I suddenly had this thought while at work and decided to check.

I wanted to see if the Phi point between the 'incoming communication' Tunguska event on june 30, 1908 and this lunar landing on October 9, 2009 would give confirmation of the underlying Design.

June 30, 1908 - October 9, 2009 = 36.992 days

Phi point is at 36.992 / 1.61803399 = 22.862 days

we talk about the timeframe around February 2, 1971

a timeframe that showed another 'impact' on the moon:

On January 31, 1971 Apollo 14 (carrying astronauts Alan Shepard, Stuart Roosa, and Edgar Mitchell) lifts off on the third successful lunar landing mission. The Apollo 14 landed on the Moon on February 5, 1971.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_14
So the Apollo 14 moonlanding mission around February 2, 1971 and the October 9, 2009 double impact on the moon are connected with the Tunguska event, with the Apollo 14 moonlanding mission at Phi point.

The signifigance of Earth's orbital position at this Phi point ( around february 2 ) in relation to the 'communication' that is taking place, the Tunguska event as warning, becomes clear in 2003: its the same orbital position of Earth when spaceshuttle Columbia desintegrated on reentry, on February 1, 2003.

Earth's orbital positions are marking the 'communication' that is taking place. The Phi point between the Tunguska event on June 30, 1908 and the Deep Impact on comet Temple I unveils where this 'Tunguska warning' is aimed at:

July 21, 1945

US President Harry S. Truman approves order for atomic bombs to be used.

So This Tunguska event seems to be a warning not tu use nuclear weapons and to stay out of space with activities like the impact on a comet. I have already spoken alot of these correlations but now it appears that there's much more 'confirmative' to this 'communication'.

Tunguska is Golden Mean connected to the decission to use nuclear weapons and Deep Impact on Temple I

AND

Tunguska is Golden Mean connected to the Apollo 14 moonlanding mission and todays double Impact on the moon

AND

these 2 manmade impacts in space are Golden Mean connected via another manmade impact in space: the satellite shootdown.

But that's not all

The Phi point between Tunguska and Deep Impact is July 21, 1945, marking one of the biggest mistakes of mankind: the use of nuclear weapons. Its Earth's orbital position again that is marking the 'communication' that is taking place.

Its the same orbital postion of Earth as during the Apollo 11 moonlanding mission.
The Apollo 11 mission was the first human spaceflight to land on the Moon. Launched on July 16, 1969, it carried Mission Commander Neil Alden Armstrong, Command Module Pilot Michael Collins, and Lunar Module Pilot Edwin Eugene 'Buzz' Aldrin, Jr. On July 20, Armstrong and Aldrin became the first humans to land on the Moon,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_11

So we have the decission to drop the nuclear bomb and the first humans on the moon with Earth at the same orbital position.

Tunguska in relation to Earth is like Comet Shoemaker-Levy 9 in relation to Jupiter, in the 'communication' that is taking place.

With Earth at same orbital position as during the timeframe around July 20, with this nuclear decission and the first humans to land on the moon, exactly 25 years later:

Comet Shoemaker-Levy 9 (SL9, formally designated D/1993 F2) was a comet that broke apart and collided with Jupiter in July 1994, providing the first direct observation of an extraterrestrial collision of solar system objects.

In July 1992 the orbit of Shoemaker-Levy 9 passed within Jupiter's Roche limit, and Jupiter's tidal forces acted to pull the comet apart. SL9 was later observed as a series of fragments ranging up to 2 km (1.2 mi) in diameter. These fragments collided with Jupiter's southern hemisphere between July 16 and July 22, 1994, at a speed of approximately 60 km/s (37 mi/s). The prominent scars from the impacts were more easily visible than the Great Red Spot and persisted for many months.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comet_Shoemaker-Levy_9

Well, nice coincidence you might think. Such an impact on a planet hapens only once in a lifetime, or at least its just a coincidence that Earth is at same orbital position as during the first moon landing mission and the decission to use atomic bombs.

Coincidence?

exactly 15 years later, with Earth again at the same orbital position again:

July 20th, 2009
Jupiter Impact Confirmed

As we reported yesterday, an amateur astronomer snapped evidence of an impact on Jupiter. Now, NASA has confirmed the black spot on the giant gas planet is in fact an impact and not just a weather-related disturbance. And Anthony Wesley has now made the biggest observation of his life.

This new impact occurred exactly 15 years after the first impacts by the comet Shoemaker-Levy 9, and as the celebrations of the Apollo 11 moon landings are taking place.

http://www.universetoday.com/2009/07/20/jupiter-impact-confirmed/

The message of this 'communication' should be clear

Tunguska is a warning

Human consciousness must remain Earthbound and we should not interfere with objects in space

we must not mess with nuclear power
UncleScorpvrijdag 9 oktober 2009 @ 13:45
quote:
Op vrijdag 9 oktober 2009 12:32 schreef Dutch. het volgende:
The message of this 'communication' should be clear

Tunguska is a warning

Human consciousness must remain Earthbound and we should not interfere with objects in space

we must not mess with nuclear power
Spijtig genoeg zal de mens pas leren als hij met zijn gezicht tegen een muur knalt ...
Dutch.vrijdag 9 oktober 2009 @ 22:04
After I had written my previous post and crossposted it at several forums, I wanted the check the news about this moon impact so I want to space daily and guess what:

I wrote:
quote:
I suddenly had this thought while at work and decided to check.

I wanted to see if the Phi point between the 'incoming communication' Tunguska event on june 30, 1908 and this lunar landing on October 9, 2009 would give confirmation of the underlying Design.

June 30, 1908 - October 9, 2009 = 36.992 days

Phi point is at 36.992 / 1.61803399 = 22.862 days

we talk about the timeframe around February 2, 1971

a timeframe that showed another 'impact' on the moon:

On January 31, 1971 Apollo 14 (carrying astronauts Alan Shepard, Stuart Roosa, and Edgar Mitchell) lifts off on the third successful lunar landing mission. The Apollo 14 landed on the Moon on February 5, 1971.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_14
unbeleivable: there has been an actual impact too!!!!!

LRO Sees Apollo 14's Rocket Booster Impact Site

Oct 09, 2009
A distinctive crater about 35 meters (115 feet) in diameter was formed when the Apollo 14 Saturn IVB (upper stage) was intentionally impacted into the moon. The energy of the impact created small tremors that were measured by the seismometer placed on the Moon by Apollo 12 astronauts in 1969.



The crater in the center of this image was formed by Apollo 14's Saturn IVB booster. The booster was intentionally impacted into the lunar surface on Feb. 4, 1971. The impact caused a minor "moonquake" that scientists used to learn about the moon's interior structure. Seismometers placed on the surface by Apollo astronauts returned data on the tremor.
http://www.moondaily.com/(...)Impact_Site_999.html

Tunguska - Moon Impact - Moon Impact

connected by Phi point Golden Mean

unbelievable

fundamental truth

next in line of thought would be that the Tunguska event and the Apollo 11 first humans on the moon would show a related event in this 'communication' that is taking place, with the first humans on the moon at Phi point.

We talk about April 13-14, 2007:

A NASA Review Board finds that the Mars Global Surveyor stopped working in November 2006 due to computer programming errors.

The Mars Global Surveyor (MGS) was a US spacecraft developed by NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory and launched November 1996. It began the United States's return to Mars after a 10-year absence. It completed its primary mission in January 2001 and was in its third extended mission phase when, on November 2, 2006, the spacecraft failed to respond to messages and commands. A faint signal was detected three days later which indicated that the craft had gone into safe mode. All attempts to recontact the Mars Global Surveyor and resolve the problem failed. In January 2007 NASA officially ended the mission.

Mars Global Surveyor
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_Global_Surveyor

Panel Says Computer Error Felled Mars Orbiter

Published: April 14, 2007

Although it circled Mars longer than any other spacecraft, the Mars Global Surveyor did not die a death of old age last November, a review board assembled by NASA announced yesterday.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/14/science/space/14mars.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

The Mars Global Surveyor was taken out by Design with Earth around the same orbital position as during the launch, 10 years apart. Launched on November 7, 1996, last received message November 5, 2006.

Tunguska - humans on moon - loss of Mars Global Surveyor

the message should be clear: we must NOT go to Mars
Dutch.zaterdag 10 oktober 2009 @ 22:13
quote:
Tunguska - Moon Impact - Moon Impact

connected by Phi point Golden Mean
Besides the given correlations, I expected some 'Tunguska conditioning' around this moon impact too, around October 9

and here it is:

BBC mainstream:

Asteroid collision 'less likely'

8 October 2009

Refined calculations of the asteroid Apophis's path show it is far less likely smash into Earth in 2036 than was previously thought.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8296796.stm

linked to this article at the same page:

Dr Richard Crowther is head of the United Nations Near Earth Object (Neo) programme. He told the BBC News website: "Tunguska reminds us that these impact events have occurred in the relatively recent past.

"The surveys suggest that objects of this size are numerous enough to anticipate similar events in the relatively near future."

Many observers are concerned by what they regard as a lack of action to counter the threat posed by near-Earth asteroids.

California-based space advocacy group the Planetary Society recently awarded an Atlanta-based aerospace company $50,000 (£25,000) to design a spacecraft which could rendezvous with and track the path of the asteroid 99942 Apophis.

In 2029, this 270m-wide chunk of cosmic debris will closely approach the Earth - so close, in fact, it will be visible with the naked eye.

from:
Fire in the sky: Tunguska at 100
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7470283.stm
Flammiezaterdag 10 oktober 2009 @ 22:26
Geef het ze Dutch!! Sla ons om de oren met undeniable facts!
Geweldig om te lezen dit
Dutch.donderdag 15 oktober 2009 @ 23:04
There's something with this moon impact that needs further explanation.

I think you better read the previous posts again before you continue to read this posts, but of course you can do that later.

I have written about the Pi expression with the Deep Impact/Epoxi spacemission with this Moon - Earth transit as marker, the signifigance of this Moon -Earth transit, wich was in fact 'artificial' as it was caught on camera by the Deep Impact/ Epoxi spaceship.

I wrote about the October 9 Moon Impact:
quote:
First thought in relation to this Impact on the moon is of course the Deep Impact on comet Templ I on July 4, 2005.

July 4, 2005 - October 9, 2009 = 1.558 days

Phi point at 1.558 / 1,61803399 = 963 days

is February 21, 2008

with an impact in space:

U.S. Satellite Shootdown
http://www.spectrum.ieee.(...)own-the-inside-story
Sources: Navy to shoot down failed satellite Thursday February 21
http://www.cnn.com/2008/T(...)intercept/index.html
So we have 3 impacts in space, all manmade: Temple I, satellite and Moon.

expressing the Golden Mean Phi

So now we have both Pi and Phi expressed in space in relation to the Deep Impact mission.

It should make you think why The Golden Mean is expressed this way. These 3 events are manmade so the communication is 'outgoing'.

This lunar impact is intelligently determined

the question is, is NASA doing this consciously and if so: to who are they talking than?
if NASA is doing this without intent, just 'by coincidence' expressing both Pi and Phi in space with this Deep Impact mission, than its an unmistaken indication of hidden underlying Design in our reality.

If the first is true than we have to understand that there has been an 'incoming' communication too expressing the Golden
Mean Phi in relation to Deep Impact: with these markers:
The use of nuclear weapons ( hirhoshima- Nagasaki) and the Tunguska event.

NASA's 'communication' with this lunar impact is either a rather 'violent'
message with these impacts in space or even 'hostile' if the 'communication' is consciously planned.
Remember that this Tunguska - the decision to use the atomic bomb - Deep Impact on comet Temple 1 was identified after the impact on comet Temple I, so that Tunguska was in fact marking the 2 biggest mistakes of mankind of these times. 'Tunguska' is the warning for these 2 mistakes, materialized 'in the past' of our limited 3D perception of time, beautifully expressed by the Golden Mean.

a few day later I added:
quote:
I suddenly had this thought while at work and decided to check.

I wanted to see if the Phi point between the 'incoming communication' Tunguska event on june 30, 1908 and this lunar landing on October 9, 2009 would give confirmation of the underlying Design.

June 30, 1908 - October 9, 2009 = 36.992 days

Phi point is at 36.992 / 1.61803399 = 22.862 days

we talk about the timeframe around February 2, 1971

a timeframe that showed another 'impact' on the moon:

On January 31, 1971 Apollo 14 (carrying astronauts Alan Shepard, Stuart Roosa, and Edgar Mitchell) lifts off on the third successful lunar landing mission. The Apollo 14 landed on the Moon on February 5, 1971.
later I found out that there has been an actual Impact on the moon too
during that timeframe, on February 4, 1971!
quote:
A distinctive crater about 35 meters (115 feet) in diameter was formed when the Apollo 14 Saturn IVB (upper stage) was intentionally impacted into the moon.
so we have these 2 Golden Mean Phi expressions marked by the Tunguska event:

Tunguska - nuclear bomb Hirhoshima/Nagasaki - Deep Impact on comet Temple I

and

Tunguska - Moon Impact - Moon Impact

I had to think about this because the first one seems to imply that the Tunguska event has happened on an intelligently designed moment in our perception of time in order to mark these other 2 events ( nuclear bomb and deep impact on comet Temple I) by the Golden Mean Phi.

I consider this to be an 'incoming communication'.

However, the second one also seems to imply that 'Tunguska' has happened in order to mark the 2 lunar impacts and this has been bothering me.

If you look at it than you will notice that only the lunar Impact on October 9, 2009 has happened after the impact on comet Temple I.

Its either all intelligently Designed and predetermined or the lunar impact on October 9, 2009 has been deliberately planned in order to express the given intelligent correlation via the Golden mean Phi, as an outgoing communication.

Its like NASA saying 'oke we made a mistake with the Deep Impact on comet Temple I and we understand the 'intelligent inter-dimensional communication' that is taking place." With this 'useless' moon Impact on October 9, 2009 Nasa is ´confirming´ that the Tunguska warning has been understood.

Wit this in mind I started to investigate a bit more, if the timing of the Lunar Impact on October 9, 2009 has been consciously planned by NASA, than this first identified Intelligent correlation between Deep Impact on comet Temple 1 and this lunar impact must also have been manipulated in order to express this very same Golden Mean correlation.
quote:
July 4, 2005 - October 9, 2009 = 1.558 days

Phi point at 1.558 / 1,61803399 = 963 days

is February 21, 2008

with an impact in space:

U.S. Satellite Shootdown
At this point I became very curious about this satellite shootdown again and I decided to check the enterprisemission of Richard Hoagland because he´s into this Hyper Dimensional Physics research aswell.
Unlike Hoaglands work, HDDesign is about applied HD ´elements´on our perception of time while Richard Hoagland has a completely diffrent approach.

Anyway, I checked his said yesterday and found what I was looking for:

Richard writes in his article `The Baffling NRO Satellite Shoot-Down … an In-Depth Enterprise Analysis`:

In this new article, however, we present additional technical and political information, crucial now for understanding why the preceding “official satellite story” may, in fact, have been nothing more than an elaborate, government charade all along -- designed to cover the real reasons for the “sudden, urgent shoot-down.”

°°snip°°

This involved the critical modification, again on an unprecedented crash basis, of three standard “SM-3 missiles” – converting them from their intended “anti-ballistic missile interception capability” to a very different “satellite interception mode.” Also created in record time was a tactical “shoot-down plan” (below) – forced by events to intercept and “kill” USA 193 within the most difficult technical “window” imaginable -- just before reentry (so the resulting impact debris and hydrazine would quickly burn up in the Earth’s upper atmosphere …).

~~snip~~

All in all, a pretty complete picture of “what” was coming back to Earth … and “why.”

But, nothing to shed light on the increasingly puzzling, ever more urgent mystery: “why was everyone in the US military establishment suddenly so worried about this satellite … and now?”

Knowing that “what goes up into low Earth orbit … must eventually come down,” why had the NRO, the Pentagon and White House WAITED over a year … before they suddenly became “all hot and bothered” by the imminent reentry of USA-193, now projected for “sometime in late February/early March, 2008?”

And—

Why hadn’t anyone informed them of the “~1000 pounds of hydrazine on board” -- inevitably coming (uncontrollably!) back to Earth -- when they first lost their satellite control, back in 2006?!

Even with all this supporting technical detail, “something” about this entire "falling satellite story" just didn’t … ring right.

~~snip~~

And all of which still didn’t begin to address the “sudden, almost panicked urgency” for shooting down this satellite … and in the face of serious, quantifiable risks to known humans (the ISS crew …) -- after over a year of everyone previously simply ignoring 193’s inevitable return … along with its “~1000 pounds of hydrazine.”

~~snip~~

“The Lie is Different … at Every Level.”

From the full spectrum of the mainstream analysis presented here, it should be clear at this point that the baffling “shoot-down” of NRO 193 has fully lived up to this revealing intel motto: because, in the final analysis, no one seems to have a clue as to the real reason for the inexplicable, contradictory White House/Pentagon/NASA actions or pronouncements over this extraordinary incident.

But, there is a reason for this ... a startling, ritual reason!

And, as we shall see in Part II, there is far more lurking behind this “inexplicable satellite emergency” than has been admitted by anyone so far -- by either the White House ... the Pentagon—

Or NASA.

And … surprise, surprise … it involves the Moon.

~~
I recommend to read thw whole article here:
http://www.enterprisemission.com/satellite-shoot-analysis.htm

Richard goes on:
quote:
What caught our eye was not so much the real-world political implications of this technological muscle flexing, but rather the strange and ritualistic pattern under which it was being carried out.


The satellite shootdown was carried out during a total lunar eclipse
read article here:
http://www.enterprisemission.com/hdtest.htm

Part II of his artcle has yet to be published.

So with this ´disappointing´ lunar Impact on October 9, 2009 and this satellite shootdown NASA is Intelligently interdimensionally communicating!
-jos-woensdag 21 oktober 2009 @ 23:45
Wat is dit voor topic? Niet eens een normale Nederlandse OP en alleen maar nietszeggende gekopieerde lappen Engelse tekst? Doe een een voorspelling dan dan controleren wij of het uitkomt. (ofzoiets blijkbaar kun je voorspellen)
Tickerdonderdag 22 oktober 2009 @ 09:07
quote:
Op woensdag 21 oktober 2009 23:45 schreef -jos- het volgende:
Wat is dit voor topic? Niet eens een normale Nederlandse OP en alleen maar nietszeggende gekopieerde lappen Engelse tekst? Doe een een voorspelling dan dan controleren wij of het uitkomt. (ofzoiets blijkbaar kun je voorspellen)
Is je blow verkeerd gevallen?
Dutch.dinsdag 27 oktober 2009 @ 13:29
Hyper Dimensional Design at Hyves.

I am going to use this Hyve to post messages with expectations for specific future dates

http://dutch-hddesign.hyves.nl/
Dutch.dinsdag 27 oktober 2009 @ 22:03
I wrote:

"Remember that this Tunguska - the decision to use the atomic bomb - Deep Impact on comet Temple 1 was identified after the impact on comet Temple I, so that Tunguska was in fact marking the 2 biggest mistakes of mankind of these times. 'Tunguska' is the warning for these 2 mistakes, materialized 'in the past' of our limited 3D perception of time, beautifully expressed by the Golden Mean."

"
so we have these 2 Golden Mean Phi expressions marked by the Tunguska event:

Tunguska - nuclear bomb Hirhoshima/Nagasaki - Deep Impact on comet Temple I

and

Tunguska - Moon Impact - Moon Impact

I had to think about this because the first one seems to imply that the Tunguska event has happened on an intelligently designed moment in our perception of time in order to mark these other 2 events ( nuclear bomb and deep impact on comet Temple I) by the Golden Mean Phi.

I consider this to be an 'incoming communication'.

However, the second one also seems to imply that 'Tunguska' has happened in order to mark the 2 lunar impacts and this has been bothering me.

If you look at it than you will notice that only the lunar Impact on October 9, 2009 has happened after the impact on comet Temple I.

Its either all intelligently Designed and predetermined or the lunar impact on October 9, 2009 has been deliberately planned in order to express the given intelligent correlation via the Golden mean Phi, as an outgoing communication.

Its like NASA saying 'oke we made a mistake with the Deep Impact on comet Temple I and we understand the 'intelligent inter-dimensional communication' that is taking place." With this 'useless' moon Impact on October 9, 2009 Nasa is ´confirming´ that the Tunguska warning has been understood.

Wit this in mind I started to investigate a bit more, if the timing of the Lunar Impact on October 9, 2009 has been consciously planned by NASA, than this first identified Intelligent correlation between Deep Impact on comet Temple 1 and this lunar impact must also have been manipulated in order to express this very same Golden Mean correlation. "

and on October 10 I wrote:
quote:
[quote]Tunguska - Moon Impact - Moon Impact

connected by Phi point Golden Mean
Besides the given correlations, I expected some 'Tunguska conditioning' around this moon impact too, around October 9

and here it is:

BBC mainstream:

Asteroid collision 'less likely'

8 October 2009

Refined calculations of the asteroid Apophis's path show it is far less likely smash into Earth in 2036 than was previously thought.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8296796.stm

linked to this article at the same page:

Dr Richard Crowther is head of the United Nations Near Earth Object (Neo) programme. He told the BBC News website: "Tunguska reminds us that these impact events have occurred in the relatively recent past.

"The surveys suggest that objects of this size are numerous enough to anticipate similar events in the relatively near future."

Many observers are concerned by what they regard as a lack of action to counter the threat posed by near-Earth asteroids.

California-based space advocacy group the Planetary Society recently awarded an Atlanta-based aerospace company $50,000 (£25,000) to design a spacecraft which could rendezvous with and track the path of the asteroid 99942 Apophis.

In 2029, this 270m-wide chunk of cosmic debris will closely approach the Earth - so close, in fact, it will be visible with the naked eye.

from:
Fire in the sky: Tunguska at 100
[url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7470283.stm[/quote]]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7470283.stm[/quote][/url]

So I have been expecting such a confirmation around October 9, but look what actually has happened on October 8, 2009, I just came to know about today october27:

It has been posted today by member 'Dreemz' on HDDesign forum:

Asteroid explosion over Indonesia raises fears about Earth's defences

An asteroid that exploded in the Earth’s atmosphere with the energy of three Hiroshima bombs this month has reignited fears about our planet’s defences against space impacts.

On 8 October, the rock crashed into the atmosphere above South Sulawesi, Indonesia. The blast was heard by monitoring stations 10,000 miles away, according to a report by scientists at the University of Western Ontario.

Scientists are concerned that it was not spotted by any telescopes, and that had it been larger it could have caused a disaster.

The asteroid, estimated to have been around 10 metres (30ft) across, hit the atmosphere at an estimated 45,000mph. The sudden deceleration caused it to heat up rapidly and explode with the force of 50,000 tons of TNT.

Luckily, due to the height of the explosion – estimated at between 15 and 20 km (nine to 12 miles) above sea level – no damage was caused on the ground.

However, if the object had been slightly larger – 20 to 30 metres (60 to 90ft) across – it could easily have caused extensive damage and loss of life, say researchers.

=snip=

An asteroid or comet fragment around 60 meters across is believed to have been behind the Tunguska Event, a powerful explosion that took place over Russia in 1908. The blast has been estimated at equivalent to 10-15 million tons of TNT – enough to destroy a large city.

The White House is to develop a policy on the space object impact threat by October next year.
http://www.telegraph.co.u(...)Earths-defences.html

I cannot emphasize enough that this is confirmative to what I have been expecting to happen around October 9!!!!!
Dutch.woensdag 28 oktober 2009 @ 10:11
from the timeline:
quote:
October 29, 2009 - ongoing 911 based 'control' pattern assassination Pim Fortuyn - Theo van Gogh - Barack Obama placed under very early protection of the secret service. Peter R. de Vries and Geert wilders beware
I wrote on October 22, 2008:

"When Pim fortuyn was assassinated, it was a high profile event. He could have been the next Prime Minister of the Netherlands if he wasn't assassinated just prior to the elections in The Netherlands back in 2002.

I was not aware of any underlying patterns at that time. That changed when Theo van Gogh was killed 911 days later on November 2, 2004.

These two people had alot in common, representatives of 'ultimate freedom', Theo with his freedom of speech and Pim with his remarkable political point of view. However, both were also much 'involved' in ethic and even racial 'issues' , bringing the differences and problem between the native Dutch people and foreigners/muslims to the attention.

I started to monitor the Phi based spiral of which these 2 assassinations could be considered to be 'expressions', unaware of the deeper meaning in the beginning.

Seperate from this Phi based spiral I have been monitoring a timecoded pattern that came to be known as the 'Balkan karma Venus Based' pattern, originally linked to the Srebrenica Massacre back in July 1995.

Continued monitoring of these initially seperated patterns ingreased my understanding of the hidden underlying themes that were expressed on these patterns and it became clear , at least to me, that both these pattern were 'karmic' related to the Srebrenica massacre and all its implications.

The people in Srebrenica were protected by Dutch soldiers in an UN safe haven. We prommissed these people to protect them. We told these people to come to Srebrenica because it would be safe. The United Nations would make sure that these people would be safe.

When the Sebs started to attack the enclave, it was decided that the Dutch soldiers would not protect these people at all costs, in a sense when it became clear that it would take Dutch casualties, the Ducth soldiers surrended to Mladic.

The Dutch military stated that it became impossible to protect Srebrenica after air support was refused. Several request for air support in order to take out Serbian tanks were declined.

As a result, the man and boys in Srebrenica were seperated from their wives and daughters and were shot to death with a few in a row at the time, until more than 8000 muslim boys and men were slaughtered.

This all happened under the formal protection of the United Nations.

It was the worst crime against humanity and the biggest massacre in Europe since WW II and it was allowed to happen despite the fact that we free people as representatives of the UN should have done everything to protect these people.

We all have a responsibility in relations to this, although most will deny it.

I began to understand that this responsibilty was finding expression on these determined timeframes on this Phi based spiral in Dutch society, of which the asassinations of Pim and Theo were part of.

It must be clear that it was not The Netherlands that refused the air support, the patterns unveiled, at least to me, that the US government was in fact responsible.

During the predetermined timeframes on these patterns several events materialized that are in fact unveiling the hidden underlying truth about the responsibilities for the Srebrenica massacre.

Milosevic was taken out by Design, Tolimir arrested, The Dutch gouvernment fell and sued, Obama security issues and lots of more, logged 'realtime' in the 2 thread specifically dedicated to these 2 patterns.

You cannot understand this if you don't try to see the bigger picture of the events that took place during the predetermined dates of these patterns.

The next dates are given, I expect expressions that will make clear the we trully are responsible for what has happened in Srebrenica in July 1995."
quote:
As said numerous times before:

This 911 Golden Mean based timecoded spiral in Dutch society is in fact linked to 'Srebrenica Karma'

I have been identifying and monitoring it here, during the last couple of years:

911 based Phi spiral in Dutch society
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about87-hddesign.html
Balkan Karma Venus based
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about4-hddesign.html

First identified event on this timecoded spiral was the assassination of Pim Fortuyn and this HDDesign 'research' shows that this was in fact a karmic expression related to the Srebrenica massacre.

Venus based indeed:

Srebrenica July 11, 1995 - September 1, 2009 = timeframe of 5.167 days

or Venus at the same orbital position

5.167 / 224.68 ( Venus year in Earth days ) = 23

This development emerges, true or not, its hitting the timecoded pattern:

Pim Fortuyn was killed by a second shooter!

Actrice Ine Veen has written a book based on a scret report ( that's what she claims ) in which she stated that indeed Volkert van de Graaf did shoot 3 bullets at Pim Fortuyn ( 2 in his back, one in his neck), but that Pim Fortuyn was already killed by 2 bullets in his head fired by a second shooter from on top a nearby building.

The Dutch secret service AIVD would know about these 2 kinds of ammunition. The book is called "killed by the Crown".
[url=http://www.crimesite.nl/liquidaties/moord/pim-fortuyn-werd-door-tweede-schutter-vermoord-volkert-van-der-graaf.html
]http://www.crimesite.nl/liquidaties/moord/pim-fortuyn-werd-door-tweede-schutter-vermoord-volkert-van-der-graaf.html[/quote][/url]

I have written about the correlation between the assassination of Pim Fortuyn and the JSF striker fighter.
Prior to the elections in The Netherlands back in 2002, in became clear that Pim Fortuyn would probably win these elections so he could even become the next Prime Minister of The Netherlands.

During the weeks prior to the assassination Pim changed his mind about the JSF. First he supported the JSF but a few weeks prior to the election he said that Netherlands shouldn't buy the JSF. He became an opponent of the JSF.

If he had lived during the elections, he would have won and we wouldn't go on with the JSF.

Pim was assassinated just prior to the elections and his part won indeed.

His successor Mat Herben didn't became PM but he was involved forming the next gouvernment of the Netherlands. Mat Herrben's first political action was to give his approval to the JSF, exactly the opposite of how Pim would have wanted it.

Its amazing that this has happened while nobody seems to care less.

As this HDDesign 'research' has shown repeatedly, the JSF issue regularly shows up on the patterns related to Pim Fortuyn.

So today we are again in a timeframe related to the assassination of Pim Fortuyn and the JSF is getting momentum.....again!

'JSF mogelijk nog duurder'
JSF more expensive because the GB wants to ordr less JSF's
http://www.nu.nl/algemeen/2110629/jsf-mogelijk-nog-duurder.html
Dutch.vrijdag 6 november 2009 @ 13:23
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Deep Impact is an ongoing NASA space probe which was launched on January 12, 2005. It was designed to study the composition of the comet interior of 9P/Tempel ( Temple 1 ), by colliding a section of the spacecraft into the comet. On July 4, 2005, the impactor of the Deep Impact probe successfully collided with the comet's nucleus. The impact excavated debris from the interior of the nucleus, allowing photographs of the impact crater. The photographs showed the comet to be more dusty and less icy than had been expected. The impact generated a large and bright dust cloud, which unexpectedly obscured the view of the impact crater.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Impact_(space_mission)

During the last couple of years this Hyper Dimensional Design 'research' has provided numerous indications of Intelligent Design in our reality.
The elements of HDDesign are based on Hyper Dimensional Physics, HD Platonic Solids geometry, mathematically determined timecoded patterns and orbital positions of the elements of our solarsystem.
The subconscious mind seems to be able to 'tune in' on this hidden underlying Design of our reality and this hidden Design is first unveiled by 'coincidences' and synchronicities that occur.
The conscious human mind is able to rationally understand these intelligent correlations by applying the described elements of HDDesign, but unfortunately most people will dismiss the initial indication and ignore it. Although these people seem to accept that they exist in THIS dimensional realm, they do not want to accept that other dimensional realms even exist.

While the indications are overwhelming

What I have learned from this HDDesign 'research' is that we can get rid of our rigid 3-dimensional ( or 4, time ) perspective of reality, we only have to take these initial indications serious and listen to our intuition first.
While working with this HDdesign material, the 'coincidences' constantly show up, all the time. Not once or twice, or only in the beginning, these coincidences are showing up all the time and its my experience that they are becomming more profound when time proceeds.
As if the ability is increasing, for human consciousness to unlock the real nature of the reality we live in.

This HDDesign research implies that consciousness also resides in other dimensions and that our reality is intelligently connected to other dimensions and that the indications of this connection can be understood with the rational mind.
The solarsystem we live in is also 'reflecting' the hidden undelying Deisgn of our reality, what we are consciously experincing here in our reality, is also reflected by specific orbital positions of the planets in our solarsystem.
If this is understood, one could imagine that a Deep Impact on a comet, just like we did with Comet Temple 1 on July 4, 2005, seems not a good idea. What do we know what kind of effects such an Impact would have for other dimensional realms, for consciousness itself? at all levels? Do we know what comet really represents?

Another underlying theme that shows up regularly in this HDDesign material is the (mis)use of nuclear power. What do we know what kind of effects a nuclear detonation has on other dimensional realms or consciousness itself, at all levels?

<==========> <=========>

With these two biggest mistakes of mankind we have crossed a red line: the use of nuclear weapons ( Hirhoshima / Nagasaki ) and the Impact on comet Temple 1.

And because we've crossed this red line we have been 'warned'.

The 'warning' comes from 'outside' our limited 3D perspective of reality and has been materialized in the past in our limited 3D perspective of time. We have to get rid of our linear perspective of time, these 3D limitations on linear time are only valid in the way we are consciously experiencing our reality, but its a limited perspective.

So this 'warning' has happened in the past of our perspective of time , but it is 'caused' by these 2 big mistakes of mankind.



I talk about the Tunguska event on June 30, 1908
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunguska_event

The connectedness is fundamental and Intelligently determined by the Golden Mean Phi.

Tunguska -- 1 --> decission to use nuclear weapons -- 1,618034-> Deep Impact.

Deep Impact on Comet Temple 1 showed unexpected results and it seems to me that NASA has come to the conclusion that this Impact on comet temple I wasn't a good idea indeed.

There's evidence to support this, a while after the Deep Impact mission NASA started to 'Intelligently Communicate' with their initiated events in space, as if NASA wanted to say "sorry, we made a mistake, we didn't knew but we do understand now".
The 'communication' seems to be directed at other levels of consciousness, so it seems to me for reasons I will explain here.

We go back to May 29, 2008.

The Deep Impact mission was extended with the Epoxi Space mission and on May 29, 2008:

NASA's Deep Impact Films Earth as an Alien World
http://www.nasa.gov/topic(...)s/epoxi_transit.html

"NASA's Deep Impact spacecraft has created a video of the moon transiting (passing in front of) Earth as seen from the spacecraft's point of view 31 million miles away. Scientists are using the video to develop techniques to study alien worlds."



With this Earth-Moon transit captured by Deep Impact/Epoxi spacecraft on May 29, 2008, NASA is deliberately marking a Pi expression in space:

I wrote on January 2 this year:

"This Epoxi ( Deep Impact extended mission) - Earth - moon Transit as captured from Epoxi is awsom, and the awakeningstimeframe + Pi are confirming the hidden underlying Intelligent Design:

3 awakeningstimeframes = ascension timeframe, or 3333 Earth days
3333 / Pi = 1060 days on Earth ( in full days)

Deep Impact on comet Temple I happened on July 4, 2005

The Deep Impact - Moon Earth transit as seen on the picture above happened on May 29, 2008

July 4, 2005 - May 29, 2008 = 1060 days on Earth!

Wake Up!

So this Deep Impact/Epoxi - Moon - Earth Transit happened at ascension starttriggerdate of the end of the Mayan Calendar, on May 29, 2008.

The awakenings timeframe of 1111 days was the first identified element of hidden Intelligent Design that became a key element of these HDDesign theories, followed by the 911 based control timeframe and the ascension timeframe of 3333 days, the latter emphasized in the HDDesign theories as more profound."

and followed by this:

"this is so profound....when intuition speaks:

Deep Impact on comet Temple I happened on July 4, 2005

Deep Impact/Epoxi - Moon - Earth Transit happened at ascension starttriggerdate of the end of the Mayan Calendar, on May 29, 2008.

next scheduled Deep Impact/Epoxi spacecraft flyby of comet Hartley 2: October 11, 2010.

As we have seen in previous posts and on the timeline, this May 29, 2008 timeframe of the Transit had a big emphasis on Pi, unveiling the correlations between Pi, ascension timframe, orbital positions, Deep Impact and the end of the Mayan Calendar

Wouldn't it be an unmistaken confirmation to find Pi expressed by these three events in space: Deep Impact on Temple I, the Epoxi - moon - Earth transit and the comet Hartley 2 flyby?

Wouldn't you think that if a Pi connection is there, it would be an unmistaken indication of hidden underlying Intelligent Design?

fasten year seatbelt: Pi IS expressed by these Deep Impact events:

Timeframe Deep Impact on comet Temple I - comet Hartley flyby / Pi

is the same as:

Pi * difference between:

Deep Impact on Temple I - Epoxi / Moon / Eart Transit

and

Epoxii / Moom / Earth Transit - comet Hartly flyby

or in numbers:

July 4, 2005 ( Deep Impact Temple I) - October 11, 2010 ( comet hartley flyby of spacecraft Deep Impact/Epoxi) = 1925 days rounded

July 4, 2005 - May 29, 2008 Epoxi - Moon transit = 1060 days rounded

May 29, 2008 Epoxi/moon/Earth Transit - October 11, 2010 comet Hartly flyby = 865 days rounded

The difference between 1060 and 865 is 195 days

1925 / Pi = 195 * Pi

or

1925 / Pi / Pi is the difference between the timeframes from the Epoxi/moon/Earth Transit and the 2 Deep Ipact spacecraft events!!

This is so beautiful and fundamental."

This is ONLY meant as a mean to communicate as it became clear that there will never be an encounter with comet Hartley on October 11, 2010.

This was a deliberate communication expressing Pi, initiated by NASA after the Impact on comet Temple 1. NASA is 'communicating' that they understand they shouldn't have impacted comet Temple I.
With this doing so, NASA understands that these kind of 'intelligent' communcations are somehow possible.

The 'confirmation' materialized on the ground that very same timeframe:

The 2008 Barbury Castle Pattern is Pi to 3.14159265358



“The fact that the Pi decimal point is included (in the 2008 Barbury Castle
barley pattern) and there is rounding up to 10 decimal places is to me a little mind boggling!”
– Michael Reed, Astrophysicist

At this stage NASA has only intelligently expressed that it is understood that they made a mistake.

But the communication goes on

October 9, 2009 - Centaur impact on Moon

On June 18, 2009, NASA launched this new "double mission" -- a SUV-sized spacecraft called "Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter" (LRO), designed to map the entire lunar surface in unprecedented detail over the next five years (and, several times); and, a "piggy-back" spacecraft, called the "Lunar Crater Observation and Sensing Satellite" (LCROSS), designed to direct the spent upper stage of the Atlas 5 LRO launch vehicle (the "Centaur" second stage) into a carefully targeted impact with the lunar surface on October 9, 2009.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_Reconnaissance_Orbiter

This LCROSS mission with the moon impact was added to the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter (LRO) mission after Deep Impact on comet Temple 1 and agian this LCROSS missions is more a mean of 'communication' rather than a search for waterice on the moon, as we will see.

After Deep Impact, these 2 events in space followed, expressing the Golden Mean Phi in the same way as the Tunguska 'warning':

3 manmade impacts in space: connected by Golden Mean Phi:

Deep Impact on comet Temple I --- at Phi point U.S. satellite shootdown --- lunar impact

As soon as I understood this connection, the deliberately planned satellite shoot down and Moon Impact on a predetermined timeframe as a mean for 'communication', I wanted to see if the Phi point between the 'incoming communication' Tunguska event on june 30, 1908 and this lunar Impact on October 9, 2009 would give confirmation of the underlying Design.

At Phi point between Tunguska and the Moon Impact on October 9, 2009 Apollo 14 mission to the moon is on its way!

With an actual Impact on the moon too!!!!!!

I wrote:

"So the Apollo 14 moonlanding mission around February 2, 1971 and the October 9, 2009 double impact on the moon are connected with the Tunguska event, with the Apollo 14 moonlanding mission at Phi point.

The Phi point between Tunguska and Deep Impact is July 21, 1945, marking one of the biggest mistakes of mankind: the use of nuclear weapons. Its Earth's orbital position again that is marking the 'communication' that is taking place.

unbeleivable: there has been an actual impact too!!!!!

LRO Sees Apollo 14's Rocket Booster Impact Site

Oct 09, 2009
A distinctive crater about 35 meters (115 feet) in diameter was formed when the Apollo 14 Saturn IVB (upper stage) was intentionally impacted into the moon. The energy of the impact created small tremors that were measured by the seismometer placed on the Moon by Apollo 12 astronauts in 1969.
http://www.moondaily.com/(...)Impact_Site_999.html

Tunguska - Moon Impact - Moon Impact

connected by Phi point Golden Mean

unbelievable

fundamental truth

The message of this 'communication' should be clear

Tunguska is a warning

Human consciousness must remain Earthbound and we should not interfere with objects in space

we must not mess with nuclear power

With the predetermined satellite shootdown en Moon Impact on October 9 NASA is 'communicating'.
And again, just like the Pi cropcircle 'confirming' NASA's Pi expression with Deep Impact/Epoxi space missions ( May 29, 2008) , this NASA 'communication' that the Tunguska 'warning' has been understood, is confirmed during the same timeframe of the lunar Impact around October 9, 2009:

Asteroid explosion over Indonesia raises fears about Earth's defences

An asteroid that exploded in the Earth’s atmosphere with the energy of three Hiroshima bombs this month has reignited fears about our planet’s defences against space impacts.

On 8 October, the rock crashed into the atmosphere above South Sulawesi, Indonesia. The blast was heard by monitoring stations 10,000 miles away, according to a report by scientists at the University of Western Ontario.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/space...s-defences.html

For more details I refer to the timeline Q4 2009 here:
Q4 2009 Timeline, October, November and December 2009
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about386-hddesign.html
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Dragoriusvrijdag 6 november 2009 @ 14:12
Nou ben ik een near native speaker als het om Engels gaat, maar hier kan ik echt geen kaas van maken.
Kan iemand dit nader verklaren/toelichten?
quote:
The 'warning' comes from 'outside' our limited 3D perspective of reality and has been materialized in the past in our limited 3D perspective of time. We have to get rid of our linear perspective of time, these 3D limitations on linear time are only valid in the way we are consciously experiencing our reality, but its a limited perspective.
Jumparoundmaandag 9 november 2009 @ 17:04
quote:
Op vrijdag 6 november 2009 14:12 schreef Dragorius het volgende:
Nou ben ik een near native speaker als het om Engels gaat, maar hier kan ik echt geen kaas van maken.
Kan iemand dit nader verklaren/toelichten?
[..]
Dat is toch niet zo moelijk? Tijd is 3d, (in tegenstelling tot wat het gros van de mensheid denkt (nl 1d) (ik denk dat dutch denkt dat tijd ook diepte heeft, mogelijk zodat er meerdere tijdstromen tegelijkertijd naast elkaar bewegen) maar tijd is niet 3d, tijd is 4d, dus niet alleen met diepte, hoogte en lengte, maar ook een 4de demensie, nl.... tijd!
Handschoenmaandag 9 november 2009 @ 22:02
Dutch, wat is 'tijd' voor jou? Geloof je dat 'tijd' bestaat?
Handschoenmaandag 9 november 2009 @ 22:11
quote:
Op vrijdag 6 november 2009 13:23 schreef Dutch. het volgende:
<============>[size=18]Communication[/size]<============>


<============>[ afbeelding ]<============>


Deep Impact is an ongoing NASA space probe which was launched on January 12, 2005. It was designed to study the composition of the comet interior of 9P/Tempel ( Temple 1 ), by colliding a section of the spacecraft into the comet. On July 4, 2005, the impactor of the Deep Impact probe successfully collided with the comet's nucleus. The impact excavated debris from the interior of the nucleus, allowing photographs of the impact crater. The photographs showed the comet to be more dusty and less icy than had been expected. The impact generated a large and bright dust cloud, which unexpectedly obscured the view of the impact crater.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Impact_(space_mission)

During the last couple of years this Hyper Dimensional Design 'research' has provided numerous indications of Intelligent Design in our reality.
The elements of HDDesign are based on Hyper Dimensional Physics, HD Platonic Solids geometry, mathematically determined timecoded patterns and orbital positions of the elements of our solarsystem.
The subconscious mind seems to be able to 'tune in' on this hidden underlying Design of our reality and this hidden Design is first unveiled by 'coincidences' and synchronicities that occur.
The conscious human mind is able to rationally understand these intelligent correlations by applying the described elements of HDDesign, but unfortunately most people will dismiss the initial indication and ignore it. Although these people seem to accept that they exist in THIS dimensional realm, they do not want to accept that other dimensional realms even exist.

While the indications are overwhelming

What I have learned from this HDDesign 'research' is that we can get rid of our rigid 3-dimensional ( or 4, time ) perspective of reality, we only have to take these initial indications serious and listen to our intuition first.
While working with this HDdesign material, the 'coincidences' constantly show up, all the time. Not once or twice, or only in the beginning, these coincidences are showing up all the time and its my experience that they are becomming more profound when time proceeds.
As if the ability is increasing, for human consciousness to unlock the real nature of the reality we live in.

This HDDesign research implies that consciousness also resides in other dimensions and that our reality is intelligently connected to other dimensions and that the indications of this connection can be understood with the rational mind.
The solarsystem we live in is also 'reflecting' the hidden undelying Deisgn of our reality, what we are consciously experincing here in our reality, is also reflected by specific orbital positions of the planets in our solarsystem.
If this is understood, one could imagine that a Deep Impact on a comet, just like we did with Comet Temple 1 on July 4, 2005, seems not a good idea. What do we know what kind of effects such an Impact would have for other dimensional realms, for consciousness itself? at all levels? Do we know what comet really represents?

Another underlying theme that shows up regularly in this HDDesign material is the (mis)use of nuclear power. What do we know what kind of effects a nuclear detonation has on other dimensional realms or consciousness itself, at all levels?
*knip*
Eindelijk een keer een uitleg waar ik wat aan heb . Nu begrijp ik een stuk beter wat je bedoelt
Jumparounddinsdag 10 november 2009 @ 15:41
Dutch, weet je zeker dat 6/11 geen triggerdate was?
lijkt mij toch dat DIT toch wel een waarschuwing van formaat is....
Handschoendinsdag 10 november 2009 @ 21:39
Was er niet ook iets neergekomen in Indonesië de laatste dagen??
Neutrinodinsdag 10 november 2009 @ 22:31
Wanneer is de echo van het uitsterven van de Dinosauriërs te verwachten. En wat te denken van de echo van het Tungaska incident.

De vraag is echter of oorzaak en gevolg überhaupt wel de juiste volgorde hebben. Soms kan er immers een gevolg zijn waarna de oorzaak zich zal manifesteren.
Dutch.woensdag 11 november 2009 @ 10:41
quote:
Op dinsdag 10 november 2009 21:39 schreef Handschoen het volgende:
Was er niet ook iets neergekomen in Indonesië de laatste dagen??
Ja dat was op 8 october ( zie mijn vorige post ) en recentelijk was er weer een incident.
Dutch.woensdag 11 november 2009 @ 11:03
quote:
Op dinsdag 10 november 2009 15:41 schreef Jumparound het volgende:
Dutch, weet je zeker dat 6/11 geen triggerdate was?
lijkt mij toch dat DIT toch wel een waarschuwing van formaat is....
Waar ik alert op ben is 'communicatie' in deze post-maan impact periode in relatie tot Tunguska.

Er is een theorie dat de Tunguska impact was in feite een inslag was van een fragment van komeet Encke .

Ik ben even snel wat gedachten aan het loggen hier want ik heb het druk op het werk, dus verontschuldiging als de verbanden niet duidelijk zijn, maar de 'communicatie' rond tunguska lijkt sterk geassocieerd met Enki symboliek ( Sumerie/ oude kennis) Tunguska IS Enki symboliek en deze 'near miss' komt tot ons bewustzijn op 10 November. Ik ben dan alert op Enki symboliek rond dit soort gebeurtenissen en nu blijkt dat de keeper van het Duitse nationale team gisteren zelfmoord heeft gepleegd: Robert Enke.
quote:
Germany and Hannover 96 goalkeeper Robert Enke has died after being hit by a train in an apparent suicide on Tuesday, police have confirmed.
Jaren terug heeft ooit een lezer eens gezegd over dit HDDesign materiaal: "What Dutch is doing, is like Enki talking to a wall".

Voor mij persoonlijk lijken deze gebeurtenissen in combinatie met het HDDesign materiaal van deze periode aan te geven dat het negeren van de 'waarschuwingen' uiteindelijk neer komt op anihilatie, wij zijn in staat om onszelf te vernietigen, dat is in potentie aanwezig.
Jumparoundwoensdag 11 november 2009 @ 12:17
Je weet dat ik "nogal" sceptisch ben... maar dit geeft me wel rillingen... (tot op zekere hoogte dan he ;-) )
Handschoenwoensdag 11 november 2009 @ 12:51
Ik was in het begin ook erg sceptisch, maar nu ik meer begrijp van hoe dutch het doet en ik nu zijn posts kan lezen zodat ik ook begrijp wat hij zegt zijn er wel een hoop 'toevalligheden' .

Dutch, hoe onderscheid je communicatie van niet-communicatie?
wytdykwoensdag 11 november 2009 @ 21:12
Onbekende planetoïde scheerde langs de aarde
Uitgegeven: 10 november 2009 09:45
Laatst gewijzigd: 10 november 2009 09:44

AMSTERDAM - Vrijdag 6 november is onverwachts een kleine planetoïde langs de aarde gescheerd. Het naar schatting slechts zeven meter grote brok ruimtesteen, dat de aanduiding 2009 VA heeft gekregen, miste het aardoppervlak op ongeveer 14.000 kilometer.

Daarmee was het, voor zover bekend, de op twee na dichtste nadering van een planetoïde die niet op aarde is neergestort. Alleen in 2004 en 2008 vonden niptere missers plaats.

Gemiddeld komen er ongeveer twee van zulke kleine planetoïden dicht langs de aarde, en eens in de vijf jaar ploffen de restanten van zo'n object op het aardoppervlak.

http://www.nu.nl/wetensch(...)rde-langs-aarde.html

10 november
Dutch.woensdag 11 november 2009 @ 21:35
quote:
Op maandag 9 november 2009 22:02 schreef Handschoen het volgende:
Dutch, wat is 'tijd' voor jou? Geloof je dat 'tijd' bestaat?
Ons normale begrip van tijd is gekoppeld aan de 3 dimensies ( of 4 = tijd) waarin we ons bewustzijn ervaren. Buiten deze dimensies is het begrip tijd irrelevant en ons lineaire tijdsbegrip beperkt ons vermogen om causaliteit te begrijpen. Wij zijn waarschijnlijk niet in staat om 'onze tijd' te manipuleren ( daarom laat er altijd wel een vogeltje een stukje brood in de LHC vallen ) maar ik denk dat het van buitenaf wel mogelijk is, vanuit andere dimensies. ( even los van wat dat allemaal impliceert.)

De Tungaska gebeurtenis is zo'n voorbeeld
Dutch.woensdag 11 november 2009 @ 21:47
quote:
Dutch, hoe onderscheid je communicatie van niet-communicatie?
Als het onderliggende Intelligente ontwerp in tegenspraak is met ons lineaire tijdsbegrip beschouw ik dit als inkomende communicatie, voornamelijk uitgedrukt door gebeurtenissen in ons zonnestelsel en de rest van het universum in interactie met de aarde. Ook 'out of the blue' gebeurtenissen en synchroniteiten kunnen een vorm van communicatie zijn, vooral als deze gebeurtenissen tot 'onthulling' leiden, zoals bv 9/11.
Het meeste wat in onze realiteit gebeurd is echter gewone 'karmische' expressie van ons ( collectieve) bewustzijn.
Dutch.vrijdag 13 november 2009 @ 09:39
As you can verify with the next two reposts, I expected related info to crime reporter Peter R. de Vries and criminal / Heineken kidnapper Cor van Hout for the current timeframe and around October 29.

first the 2 reposts:

1:
quote:
reposted on other forums with hddesign threads:

Psychic Peter van der Hurk expects assaults on Peter R. de Vries and Geert Wilders, as published in a Dutch newspaper the other day:

zo 28 dec 2008, 19:23 'In 2009 aanslag op Peter R. de Vries!'
http://www.telegraaf.nl/p(...)ries____.html?p=27,2

I posted after I read this:

[quote]had to think of 911 and Fortuyn - Van Gogh....

Assassination of Fortuyn +911 days = assassination of Van Gogh

+ 911 days gives May 2, 2007

from the timeline first half 2007:

May 2, 2007 - Golden Mean Phi based 'Srebrenica karma'. Washington.link.
3 Mars years in Earth days since 9/11, 3 Mars years in earth days prior to the end of the Mayan Calender
from Goro: Mayan Contact Midpoint, see update below.
Ayaan Hirsi Ali threathened in the US, heavy security/protection needed
Press review: 'Fall of the sun king'
http://www.cnn.com/2007/BUSINESS/05/02/browne.press/index.html
Obama placed under Secret Service protection
http://edition.cnn.com/20(...)rotection/index.html
Melkert, Volkert, Wolfowitz, analysis will follow
note that this 'Srebrenica' karma was linked to the monitored 911 based Phi spiral in 'Dutch society', which expired in November 2008.

the 911 based 'control' pattern is still ongoing, coinciding with the spiral on May 2, 2007 and giving a new key date around October 29, 2009

also note that Geert Wilders was also linked to this spiral

I expected a 'confirmation' in relation to Peter R. de Vries and Cor van Hout. I have posted related issues about this back in 2005 already and I thought this stuf wasn't online anymore. Just recently I found it again on a forum and I reposted it on HDDesign forum.

the 'confirmation':
quote:
around October 29, 2009 Venus will be at the same orbital position again as during the assassination of Cor van Hout!

11 Venus Years in Earth days

assassination of Cor van Hout: January 24, 2003
http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cor_van_Hout

11 * 224.68 = 2.471 days later:

October 30, 2009
related thread, with info from 2005, triggerdates and backgrounds:
Natalee Holloway - Peter R. de Vries
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about327-hddesign.html

Today I have posted this:

Peter R. de Vries has been molested today ( saturday 24 januari 2009) by ( ex) criminal Steve Brown:

Peter R. de Vries aangevallen in auto

AMSTERDAM - Tv-programmamaker Peter R. de Vries is zaterdag gewond geraakt toen hij in zijn auto werd aangevallen door Steve Brown, een voormalig drugshandelaar met wie hij al jaren overhoop ligt. De Vries heeft dat zaterdag laten weten.
http://www.telegraaf.nl/b(...)in_auto__.html?p=1,1

This was the second time Steve Brown and Peter de Vries had a fight.
On June 21, 2007 Brown kicked Peter at the melkweg in Amsterdam, there's a video available online

June 21 +/- 1 day has been mentioned here in this thread:
quote:
On or around 22 June 2005 it is 911 days ago since the assassination attack on XXXXX. With this information in your mind it can be that if indeed something would happen the impact would be low because of the fact that you are informed and aware of the underlying patterns and symbolism"
Earth at same orbital position

also:

Mercury 'The Messenger' is at the same orbital position on January 24, 2009 ( second attack) as during the 911 based starttriggerdate of June 21, 2007, the day of the first attack.

June 21, 2007

here:



OMG!

this whole thread (at HDDesign forum) is initially based on the assassination of Heineken kidnapper Cor van Hout and the correlations with Peter R de Vries

Peter was assaulted by Steve Brown last Saturday on January 24, 2009


COR VAN HOUT WAS ASSASSINATED ON JANUARY 24, 2003 !!!!!!
quote:
it can be that if indeed something would happen the impact would be low because of the fact that you are informed and aware of the underlying patterns and symbolism
That's the difference between an assassination or a kick on your ass...

Cor van Hout was assassinated on January 24, 2003 in Amstelveen after a visit to a chinese restaurant. A friend of him who stood next to him was shot too and died a few days later. Prior to his death there have been 2 other assassination attempts:

On March 27, 1996 Cor was shot in his car. When he arrived at his house, his son wanted to listen to a song on the radio so they didn't get out of the car. The killer hestitated but decided to shoot Cor while he was still in the car. Cor was hit several times but he survived.

The second attempt was on December 21, 2000. Somebody tried to shoot Cor and his body guard with a longdistance riffle, but he missed.

During the second attempt Mercury 'The Messenger' was at the same orbital position as during the awakenings starttriggerdate of the first attempt, while Mercury 'The Messenger' was during the final assassination at the same orbital position as during the 911 based control endtriggerdate of the first attempt

So all 3 events are connected by Mercury based on the HDdesign triggerdate system.[/quote]

Its around october 29:

Zestien jaar geëist voor liquidatie kroegbaas AMSTERDAM - Advocaat-generaal Cynthia de Jong heeft maandag voor het gerechtshof in Amsterdam zestien jaar cel geëist tegen de 28-jarige Dwight S. en de 23-jarige Remy H., wegens de liquidatie van de Amsterdamse kroegbaas Thomas van der Bijl. Deze werd op 20 april 2006 in zijn café in Amsterdam-West doodgeschoten.
http://www.telegraaf.nl/b(...)egbaas__.html?p=19,2

The timing implies that those behind the assaassination of van der Bijl, are the same people who are responsible for the killing of Cor van Hout!!!!!

and repost 2:
quote:
« on: May 19, 2005, 02:07:25 PM »

I have chosen to post this on Cloud Cover because I don't feel at ease with this information completely out in the open.

The following has been on my mind for a while and I didn't know what to do with it ( besides contacting the related person ).

I think I have to 'put' this in some peoples mind in order to avoid undesired things to happen or to downgrade the effects if the anticipated event would take place.

During my research on underlying patterns I have found out something very disturbing.

I expect a 911 related assault could take place in The Netherlands on July 25, 2005. On that day a Dutch celebrety is in danger and he could be killed. It's related to the high impact killings of Pim Fortuyn ( our would have been prime minister) and Theo van Gogh. It's 911 related on the patterns.

My wife actually showed me the way to the pattern when she said something out of he blue while looking at a Pope JP II's death related program early April. On that moment 911 was 'in the air' so to speak as the exit of JP I and JP II are 911 related as I posted elsewhere.
Sometimes my wife 'receives' precognitive info or dreams. The females in her family line are all 'sensitives'.

A few months ealier she already mentioned the importance of the date July 25, 2005 to me but she didn't knew why and I couldn't put my finger on it. While looking at the Pope she clearly received the person's name in question and he really is in danger.

I decided to determine triggerdates in the persons' life ( as he's a celebrety, there's enough info about him online). There has been an important high impact killing in the past and he is significant related to that victim. The 911 related pattern to that killing showed the date July 25, 2005! Symbolically it would be a top level 'Good against Evil' theme in our society.

My wife also warned me to be very carefull with this information because she sensed danger for me too if I wouldn't be cautious. It's the first time ever she said something like that to me.

It's a very famous person in The Netherlands and I decided to contact him. I explained how I came to my conclusions and he decided NOT to disregard my warnings. He will be very cautious on the dates I mentioned ( besides July 25, 2005 there are more dates on the patterns but I have reason to believe July 25 is the day).

I really felt the need to do something with the information and that's why I contacted the person. The man probably gets hundreds of emails a week from lunatics like me, but he will keep it in mind.

Keep this info in mind around July 25, 2005.

If someone feels the need to know the persons name and info about the underlying pattern, you can pm me.
Around November 14, 2009 Venus is at same orbital position again and this timeframe is already mentioned on the timeline Q4 2009:

November 15, 2009 - Hyper Dimensional Cube at macrolevel orientation
Earth's orbital position during end of 911 based timecoded Phi spiral Fortuyn - van Gogh in The Netherlands, 'Srebrenica karma' / de Vries
===============

end of the 2 reposts.

So we talk about the timeframe around November 14, 2009

Yesterday November 12, 2009 it was announced that a suspect was arrested for the assassination attempt on Cor van Hout on March 27, 1996!!!!!!!!!!! It was initially announced by Peter R. de Vries himself and confirmed by the authorities ( article in Dutch ):

do 12 nov 2009

ROTTERDAM - De Nationale Recherche heeft op 12 oktober een verdachte aangehouden van de mislukte liquidatiepoging in maart 1996 op Heinekenontvoerder Cor van Hout. Dat heeft een woordvoerder van het landelijk parket van het Openbaar Ministerie (OM) donderdag gezegd naar aanleiding van berichtgeving van Peter R. de Vries.
http://www.telegraaf.nl/b(...)n_Hout__.html?p=26,2

This development in relation the assassination ( attempt ) on Cor van Hout during this timeframe may be coming out of the blue for everyone, but it is confirmative to the pre-determined expectations for this timeframe as posted in the HDDesign material!!

but there's another confirmation, today November 13 2009:

The Heineken kidnappers earned hundreds of thousands on royalties of the book Peter R. de Vries has written about the Heineken kidnap!!!

Its a kind of 'assassination' of Peter de Vries' reputation as independant crimereporter!!!!


vr 13 nov 2009

Peter R. de Vries sloot contract voor 75 procentMisdaadboek loont door John van den Heuvel en Bert Huisjes
AMSTERDAM - De ontvoerders van Freddy Heineken hebben jarenlang het overgrote deel van de royalty's ontvangen voor een bestseller over hun misdrijf.
Het gaat naar schatting om tonnen. Het boek 'De ontvoering van Alfred Heineken' is het best verkochte misdaadboek van de afgelopen decennia. Er zijn bijna 300.000 exemplaren van verkocht.

De verdeling van royalty's blijkt uit een contract dat misdaadjournalist Peter R. de Vries met ontvoerder Cor van Hout sloot toen die samen met Willem Holleeder probeerde te ontkomen aan vervolging. Hij volgde als verslaggever voor De Telegraaf de ontvoerders op hun vlucht voor justitie, maar vertrok bij de krant na het verschijnen van het boek. Hij raakte destijds bevriend met ontvoerder Cor van Hout.

Het contract was al die jaren in bezit van de in 2006 geliquideerde kroegbaas Thomas van der Bijl. Zijn weduwe Carolien Rijke heeft het nu in de openbaarheid gebracht. Zij heeft een geschil met De Vries over de royalty's.

Toestemming

Zij vertelt morgen in De Telegraaf exclusief hoe zij de periode voor en na de liquidatie van haar man heeft meegemaakt. De Vries erkent het bestaan van het contract maar wijst elke claim van haar af.

De Vries kreeg toestemming een boek te schrijven over de ontvoering, mits Van Hout 75 procent van de opbrengsten zou ontvangen. Dat gold ook voor rechten op films, video's en interviews. Dat Van der Bijl deze gelden ontving was een constructie om te voorkomen dat Heineken beslag kon leggen op het boek of de opbrengst.

Volgens De Vries heeft Van der Bijl in 2003 vrijwillig de rechten overgedragen aan de weduwe van de geliquideerde Cor van Hout, Sonja Holleeder, zus van Willem Holleeder. De weduwe van Van der Bijl bestrijdt dat. Zij stelt dat haar partner de rechten in 2001 aan haar verkocht.

De Vries noemt dit opmerkelijk en onwaar: "Uit alles blijkt dat de rechten door Van der Bijl geheel vrijwillig en correct zijn overgedragen."
http://www.telegraaf.nl/b(...)gelukt___.html?p=1,1

Note that Peter R. de Vries has a dispute about these royalties with the widow of the assassinated Thomas vd Bijl!!!!!!!

I wrote above:
quote:
The timing implies that those behind the assaassination of van der Bijl, are the same people who are responsible for the killing of Cor van Hout!!!!!
When I posted my expectations back in January 2009 for these timeframes in October and November I didn't knew ofcourse WHAT would happen, I only identified the underlying themes for these timeframes.

The actual events during these timeframes are a confirmation of these pre determined underlying themes!!!

You can think about HDDesign what you want, but if you fail to see that these event are more than just coincidences, than you have to reconsider it again.

Because it should be obvious.

Again HDDesign shows the unmistaken indications of hidden underlying Design.

THESE ARE NO 'COINCIDENCES' !!!!!!!!!!
Dutch.woensdag 18 november 2009 @ 21:40
This is at least the 7th time in a row that this specific orbital position of Venus around November 18, 2009 is showing a 'Srebrenica karma' event, as expected and posted prior to the determined dates on the timelines.

updated on the timeline: the expected and predicted 'Srebrenica karma' expression for November 18, 2009:

New Srebrenica mass grave discovered
The grave is located near the hamlet of Vidikovac, in Srebrenica's surroundings.


November 18, 2009

Remains believed to be those of victims of the Srebrenica massacre were found on Wednesday in a new mass grave located near the eastern Bosnian town, an official quoted by the FENA news agency said.

The grave, measuring 25 by three metres (82 by 10 feet), is "secondary", meaning that the victims' remains were moved there from other sites in a bid to cover up the crime, local prosecutor Fatima Hadzibeganovic said.

Due to the grave's size it is expected to hold a large number of victims, she said, without providing further details.

The grave is located near the hamlet of Vidikovac, in Srebrenica's surroundings.

Bosnian Serb forces killed some 8,000 Muslim men and boys after they overran the then UN-protected enclave on July 11, 1995, perpetrating the worst atrocity in Europe since World War II.

The massacre has been ruled as genocide by the International Court of Justice (ICJ) and the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia (ICTY), both based in The Hague.

The remains of thousands of Srebrenica massacre victims have been exhumed over the past years from about 70 mass graves around the ill-fated town, with more than 5,600 people identified by DNA analysis.

The trial before the ICTY of the massacre's alleged mastermind, Bosnian Serb wartime leader Radovan Karadzic, has been adjourned until March next year.

Karadzic was arrested in Belgrade in July 2008 after 13 years on the run.

His military commander Ratko Mladic, also indicted by the ICTY in connection with Srebrenica, remains on the run and is believed to be hiding in Serbia.
http://www.javno.com/en-w(...)ve-discovered_282263

read related info on the timeline of Q4 2009 here:
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about386-hddesign.html
if you're not registered you can login with 'reader' password 'reader'
Dutch.donderdag 19 november 2009 @ 21:46
I have put it on the timeline for Q4 on August 14, 2009:
quote:
Posted: 14 Aug 2009 02:52 pm Post subject:

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new date added:

November 18, 2009 - 'Srebrenica karma', security issue obama

read related info here in this post:
[url=http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?p=7879&mforum=hddesign#7879
]http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?p=7879&mforum=hddesign#7879[/quote][/url]


We have seen this new mass grave discovered as 'Srebrenica karma'expression and here is the expected and predicted 'security issue' for Obama:

Judge frees ex-airport guard accused of Obama threats
http://edition.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/11/19/obama.threat/index.html
Jumparoundmaandag 7 december 2009 @ 11:56
oh-oh, is Dutch in een hyerdemensie kwijt geraakt?
Handschoenmaandag 7 december 2009 @ 12:26
Misschien zijn er geen observaties op dit moment die corresponderen met een eerdere timeline die bijzonder genoeg zijn om te vermelden...

ben wel weer benieuwd naar een update
-jos-dinsdag 8 december 2009 @ 11:40
Nou vertel wanneer heb je dit voorspelt:

http://www.nu.nl/buitenla(...)anslagen-bagdad.html
Boswachtertjedinsdag 8 december 2009 @ 13:07
Tis geen Nostradamus dacht ik toch?
Dutch.vrijdag 11 december 2009 @ 09:14
quote:
Op dinsdag 8 december 2009 11:40 schreef -jos- het volgende:
Nou vertel wanneer heb je dit voorspelt:

http://www.nu.nl/buitenla(...)anslagen-bagdad.html
We zitten momenteel nog in de periode van de start van het laatste 1111 dagen 'awakenings timeframe', waarvan de piek rond 8 december ligt: 8 december 2009 - 23 december 2012 = 1111 dagen.

Ik ben nog aan het monitoren en post pas een update als dit tijdsframe voorbij is.

Wel interessant dat je deze aanslag als voorbeeld geeft, ik zie dat altijd als een synchroniteit die wellicht bevestiging geeft van de onderliggende thema's.

In dit geval is 8 december 2009 starttrigger van het awakenings tinmeframe met 23 december 2012 als eindtrigger.

I dacht: 8 december 2009 is op zijn beurd ook eindtrigger met een 1111 dagen awakenings tijdsframe terug in de tijd: met 23 november 2006 als starttrigger.

23 november 2006 - 8 december 2009 = 1111

op die dag 23 november 2006:

A series of car bombs and mortar attacks in Sadr City, Baghdad, kill at least 215 people and injure 257 other people

23 November 2006 Sadr City bombings

The 2006 Sadr City bombings were a series of car bombs and mortar attacks in Iraq that began on 23 November at 15:10 Baghdad time (12:10 Greenwich Mean Time) and ended at 15:55 (12:55 GMT). Six car bombs and two mortar rounds were used in the attack on the Shi'ite Muslim slum in Sadr City.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/23_November_2006_Sadr_City_bombings

Niet dat aanslagen in Iraq het hoofdthema is, ik zie het meer als additionele bevestiging.

We zitten momenteel in het tijdvak vlak na het Phi punt tussen de sumatra quake/tsunami en het einde van de long count van de Mayan Calender. Er zijn 2 van die Phi punten,'naar binnen' en 'naar buiten' . Deze huidige periode is na het Phi punt 'naar binnen' en laat volgens mij een echo zien van de periode vlak na het Phi punt 'naar binnen', wat plaats vond in januari 2008.

Net als toen, zitten we nu denk ik aan het begin van een economische 'tsunami'.

Ook het hele klimaat gebeuren deze week moet als een wake up call gezien worden ( 1111 ) als starttrigger in relatie tot het eind van de Mayan Calender

updates volgen wellicht volgende week, eerst monitoren. Het 'ruwe' materiaal is altijd 'live' beschikbaar op de tijdslijnen op het HDDesign forum
sir_Tachyonvrijdag 11 december 2009 @ 09:25
Tenzij dit dagelijkse korst is in Bagdad, sta ik achter Dutch. Het is waar dat daar wel veel gebeurt in dat land maar voor mij is het meer een patroon. Keep em coming Dutch
Dutch.vrijdag 11 december 2009 @ 13:07
het is ook niet het hoofdthema voor dit tijdsframe, ik zie het als een aanvullende bevestiging die dmv een synchroniteit plaats vind. Iemand plaats een opmerking over een zware aanslag in Irak en als ik hetzelfde onderliggende design toepas als waar ik op dat moment mee bezig ben voor dezelfde datum, dan volgt er gelijk 'bevestiging' met een vergelijkbare zware aanslag in Irak. Het is bevestiging van de onderliggende patronen dmv synchroniteiten.


een update:

Waves of Change

So around December 5, 2009 is Phi point between the December 26, 2004 Sumatra Quake / Tsunami and the end of the Mayan Long Count Calender.

Venus is at the same orbital position during the Sumatra quake / tsunami and the end of the Mayan long count:

December 26, 2004 - December 23, 2012 = 2.920 days or

13 Venus Years in Earth days: 13 * 224.68 = 2.920 days

which is also the timeframe between the 2 Venus Transits of our times:

June 8, 2004 - June 6, 2012 = 2.920 days or 13 Venus Years in Earth days or 8 Earth years.

Around December 8, 2009 is starttriggerdate of the last 1111 days awakenings timeframe with the end of the Mayan calendar:

December 8, 2009 - December 23, 2012 = 1111 days

I am currently monitoring this timeframe around December 8, 2009, which I think will show and echo of the timeframe just after the other Phi point between the Sumatra quake / tsunami and the end of the Mayan long count around January 16, 2008. This is realted to a financial or economic 'tsunami' and the climate issues as wake up call in elation to the end of the Mayan long count. More on this after the timeframe.

There's something else I want to talk about

we have seen these orbital positions of Venus marking the hidden underlying Design.

Could there be a Venus connection with December 8 too?

With 1111, Phi and Venus, 3 of the most profound elements of HDDesign, I thought that the Hyper Dimensional Tetrahedron would also show the connectedness, and it does:

December 8, 2009 creates a Hyper Dimensional Tetrahedron with the last Venus Transit of our times on June 6, 2012:

December 8, 2009 - June 6, 2012 = 911 days!

Next in line of thought is to consider December 8, 2009 to be the eventsday in the middle of the 2 times 911 'controll' timeframe as applied in this HDDesign material

June 11, 2007 ---- 911 days----December 8, 2009 ----- 911 days ---Venus Transit June 6, 2012

June 11, 2007 was already on the timeline of the first half 2007, I wrote:
quote:
b]June 10, 2007[/b] - EXACTLY 20 Mercury Years in Earth days after the 911 based starttrigger of the Hariri killing!
UN to vote on Hariri murder court
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6703587.stm
the court will come into force on 10 June.
UN approves Hariri murder court
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6703587.stm
ongoing 911 based pattern with next Venus Passage June 6, 2012
Mercury 'The Messenger' and Venus in same position as at end of Mayan calender
Second Palestinian refugee camp in Lebanon, Ain Hilwa in the south, explodes in violence:
[quote]military sources report Syria has lined up an anti-Lebanese government front of Palestinian and Islamic radicals for an orchestrated campaign of violence to derail the UN Security Council resolution establishing an international tribunal for prosecuting the suspected murderers of former Lebanese prime minister Rafiq Hariri.
http://www.debka.com/send.php?type=headline&hid=4271
Israel 'tests' Syria peace aims
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6737065.stm
Controversial Hariri court comes into force
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/070610/1/494we.html
Syrian and Iranian Generals in Intensive War Consultations
http://www.debka.com/send.php?type=article&aid=1279
UN concerned at arms crossing Lebanon-Syria border
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/070612/1/4967h.html
quote:
The Security Council on Monday ( June 11 - Dutch) reiterated "deep concern" at mounting reports of "illegal movements of arms" across the Lebanese Syrian-border, amid fears of escalating strife
quote:
"a steady flow of weapons and armed elements across the border from Syria."
quote:
"The information from the government of Lebanon on trafficking of arms and militants across the Syrian-Lebanese border is disturbing"
Assassination of Abu Nidal and fresh clashes between Hamas and Fatah:
quote:
Just like 9/11 (September 11, 2001) and Madrid ( March 11, 2004) were connected by a hyper Dimensional tetrahedron: 911 days + events day, the Hariri killing on Hyper Dimensional Cube date February 14, 2005 was connected with another HD Cube date at macrolevel via an Hyper Dimensional Tetrahedron: 911 days + events day is HD Cube date August 17, 2002 . On August 17, 2002 Mercury was on the same geometrical position of its orbit as on June 10, 2007 (+/- 1 day).

August 17, 2002 - June 11, 2007 = 1759 days

20 Mercury years in Earth days: 20 times 87.969 = 1759.3 days

The timeframe around August 17, 2002 is to be considered the 911 based 'control' starttriggerdate related to the Hariri killing

The related triggerevent during that timeframe would be the assassination of Abu Nidal on August 16, 2002 in Bagdad, opponent of Arafat's Fatah.
Abu Nidal:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Nidal

The Palestinean conflict is part of the evolving war scenario. As a 'coincidence' fresh clashes between Hamas and Fatah emerged on the same anticipated timeframe around June 10, 2007

Fatah boycott after Gaza fighting
[url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/6747207.stm
]http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/6747207.stm[/quote][/url]
Palestinian fighting 'will burn all of us,' official says
http://edition.cnn.com/20(...).violence/index.html
Gaza gun battles rage on unabated
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6747841.stm
Mercury 'The Messenger' at same position as during awakenings starttrigger date related to Arafat's death

Disturbing developments:

Lebanese lawmaker killed in Beirut blast
POSTED: 0621 GMT (1421 HKT), June 14, 2007

BEIRUT, Lebanon (CNN) -- A member of the Lebanese parliament died in a Beirut bomb blast Wednesday -- the latest anti-Syrian politician to be killed in the country.
http://edition.cnn.com/20(...)rut.blast/index.html

Bush links Syria to killing of Lebanese MP
Thursday June 14
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/070614/1/497t8.html

Abbas warns of 'collapse'
POSTED: 0256 GMT (1056 HKT), June 13, 2007
[url=http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/06/13/gaza.fighting/index.html[/quote]]http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/06/13/gaza.fighting/index.html[/quote][/url]

The underlying theme is an evolving war-scenario

Lett's see what the 'Hariri thread' in the HDDesign material has to offer for this monitored timeframe around December 8, 2009:

US to focus on uranium findings in Syria - evidence of Iranian proliferation
December 6, 2009

A senior official in the Obama administration described the UN nuclear watchdog inspectors' discovery of traces of highly processed plutonium at the bombed Syrian-North Korean facility at Dir a-Zur as a "smoking gun" - evidence of Iran's covert nuclear activities and proliferation
http://www.debka.com/headline.php?hid=6405

and

If attacked, Iran wants Syria to hit back at Israel. Damascus hedges

December 10, 2009

military sources report that this message Iran's defense minister Ahmad Vahidi brought to Damascus where he is attending a session of the high Iranian-Syrian defense committee which went into its second day Thursday, Dec. 10. The Iranian visitor indicated that Tehran expects an Israeli attack within a month
http://www.debka.com/headline.php?hid=6413

Looks like an evolving war-scenario too.

During this monitored timeframe Barack Obama picked up the Nobel Peace Price in Oslo

What has he to say about war?

Obama defends war as he picks up Nobel Peace Prize

President Barack Obama has said the US must uphold moral standards when waging wars that are necessary and justified, as he accepted his Nobel Peace Prize.

In his speech in Oslo, he defended the US role in Afghanistan, arguing the use of force could bring lasting peace.

http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?p=9222&mforum=hddesign#9222

which makes the circle full for me:

its the war in Afghanistan that drew my attention to this timeframe and the start of the 'decoding' of the current timeframes:

I wrote on the timeline for December 3, 2009:
quote:
December 3, 2009 - Phi point (inwards) Sumatra quake/Tsunami December 26, 2004 - end of Mayan Calendar

because of the +/- 1 day correction and depending on the end of the Long count , december 21 or 23, 2012, this Phipoint should be considered a timeframe: at least 2 days +/- around December 3 ( peak date)

Barack Obama orders 30,000 more troops to Afghanistan
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8389778.stm

Phi point outwards Sumatra quake/Tsunami December 26, 2004 - end of Mayan Calendar was January 15, 2008:

The Pentagon announces plans to send 3,200 additional Marines to Afghanistan, Tuesday, 15 January 2008:
More US marines for Afghanistan
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7189934.stm

back to Phipoint inwards:

Obama: Security of world at stake in Afghanistan
http://edition.cnn.com/20(...)ghanistan/index.html
Afghan troop surge similar to Iraq plan?
http://edition.cnn.com/20(...)raq.surge/index.html
Rep. Hinchey: Bush Administration 'Intentionally Let bin Laden Get Away' In Order To Justify Iraq War
http://www.huffingtonpost(...)minini_n_374640.html
Afghan victory key to defeating Al-Qaeda: Gates
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/(...)ry-nato-7e07afd.html
Bin Laden 'seen in Afghanistan'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8394470.stm

Samoan Tsunami wave was 46 feet high
The tsunami that killed more than 180 people in the Samoan islands and Tonga earlier this year towered up to 46 feet (14 meters) high _ more then twice as tall as most of the buildings it slammed into, scientists said Friday December 3, 2009.
http://blogs.lasvegassun.(...)ve-was-46-feet-high/

hitting mainstream at macrolevel: BBC top story:

Samoa tsunami 'twice height of buildings'
[url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8394892.stm
]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8394892.stm[/quote][/url]

get ready for the Waves of Change
Werkloze_Allochtoonzaterdag 26 december 2009 @ 12:36
exact vijf jaar na de verwoestende tsunami is Indonesië vandaag getroffen door een aardbeving
Werkloze_Allochtoonzaterdag 26 december 2009 @ 12:48
Exact vijf jaar na de verwoestende Tsunami is Indonesië vandaag getroffen door een aardbeving.
Dutch.dinsdag 29 december 2009 @ 12:51
quote:
September 21, 2006 - 12:19PM

The man who shot Pope John Paul II in 1981 has warned Pope Benedict XVI, whose remarks enraged Muslims last week, not to visit the predominantly Muslim Turkey in November, saying the pontiff's life could be in danger, the gunman's lawyer said.

"As a man who knows these things, I am saying that your life is in danger, don't come to Turkey. I can't welcome you because I'm in prison," lawyer Mustafa Demirbag quoted Mehmet Ali Agca as saying.

The lawyer said Agca made his statement during a meeting at the high-security Kartal prison in Istanbul on Monday ( September 18, 2006/Dutch).

Demirbag said he would visit the gunman again tomorrow and was expecting his client to make further statements.

Benedict XVI said that he has "deep respect" for Islam but did not offer an apology as demanded by some Muslim leaders offended by the pontiff's remarks in Germany last week.

During his speech, the pontiff cited a Medieval text that characterised some of the teachings of the Prophet Muhammad as "evil and inhuman," particularly "his command to spread by the sword the faith."

Secular Turkey's ruling Islamic-rooted government accused him of trying to revive the spirit of the Crusades and called on the pontiff to offer a sincere and personal apology.

"Either apologise, or do not come," read a banner carried by dozens of protesters from a religious workers' union in Ankara yesterday - a sign many Muslims feel Benedict's expression of regret on Sunday was insufficient.

Agca speculated in a hand-written letter faxed to the Associated Press by his lawyer that the Pope was pressured by secret services to make such a statement.
Agca called on Benedict to step down as pope and return to Germany for a peaceful life.

There have long been questions about Agca's mental health. He fired on John Paul as the pontiff rode in an open car in St Peter's Square on May 13, 1981.

John Paul died last year and was replaced by Benedict XVI.

When asked by Turkish police earlier this year where he obtained the gun he used in his assassination attempt, Agca said: "These are minor details. It was written in my destiny 1,000 years ago. I fulfilled a mission that was written 1,000 years ago. I would shoot the Pope even if he was on the moon," Turkey's Hurriyet and Zaman newspapers quoted him as saying at the time.

John Paul was wounded but recovered. The Pope visited his attacker and forgave him in his Rome prison cell in 1983.

In January, Agca was released by mistake and was sent back to prison on January 20, eight days after being freed.

An appeals court ruled he had to serve more time for killing a prominent Turkish journalist, Abdi Ipekci, in 1979, and reversed a lower court ruling that had allowed him to be freed.

AP

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2006/09/21/1158431822277.html
It has been on my mind the whole day yesterday......

There's someting with this warning but I couldn't put my finger on it....

Yesterday evening it fell on its place....

Ali Agca made his statement on Monday September 18, 2006

The Pope is in danger......

On April 24, 2005 Pope Benedict XVI is formally installed as Pope of the Catholic Church in an inaugural mass.

Just like Pope JP II, Benedict XVI has been attached twice with Earth at the same orbital position:

Woman Who Toppled Pope Tried It Last Year
Vatican Identifies Attacker as Susanna Maiolo, Says She Was Involved in Similar Security Breach in '08

==
She was the same woman involved in a similar incident at last year's Midnight Mass, Vatican officials said. In that case, Maiolo jumped the barricade but never managed to reach the pope and was quietly tackled to the ground by security.

In both cases, she wore a red sweatshirt.

During Thursday night's service, Maiolo jumped the barricade and lunged for the pope as he processed down the aisle toward the altar. As security guards brought her down, she grabbed Benedict's vestments and pulled him down with her, according to witness video obtained by The Associated Press.

http://www.cbsnews.com/st(...)sContent;cbsCarousel

1982 Secret Pope Stabber:

The late Pope John Paul II was wounded by a knife-wielding priest in 1982, a year after he was shot in St. Peter’s Square, but the injury was kept secret, his former top aide says in a documentary film. Cardinal Stanislaw Dziwisz also disclosed that when John Paul was unable to pronounce words several days before his death in 2005, he told his aides that if he could not speak any more the time had come for him to die.

Dziwisz, who is now cardinal of Krakow, Poland, was John Paul’s private secretary and closest aide for nearly 40 years, including all of his 27 years as pontiff. On May 12, 1982, the pope was visiting the shrine city of Fatima in Portugal to give thanks for surviving a first assassination attempt a year earlier on May 13, 1981, when he was shot in St. Peter’s Square by Turkish gunman Mehmet Ali Agca.
http://xenophilius.wordpr(...)secret-pope-stabber/

Its the Golden Mean that unveils the hidden underlying Design

Maiolo's first attack on the Pope happended on December 25, 2008 during the christmass mass, which is Earth at orbital position of the Grand Gross.

Phipoint between inauguration Benedict XVI and first attack by Maiolo

April 24, 2005 ( inauguration) - December 25, 2008 ( Maiolo Pope attack) = 1.341 days

1.341 / Phi Golden Mean 2.61803399 = Phi point at 512 days =

September 18, 2006 , when Ali Agca made his statement

Be aware of the fact that we talk about orbital positions of the Grand Cross. The astrological Grand Cross alignment of August 18, 1999 ( 'as above' ) was the first 'marker' on Earth's orbit in order to determine a Grand Cross as created with Earth's orbital positions ( 'so below' )

The second 'marker' was the planetary alignment of May 5, 2000 so the last 2 orbital positions of the Grand Cross on Earth's orbit could be calculated: December 26 ( Sumatra quake /Tsunami ) and June 26
All dates are 'peak' dates .
More on the Grand Cross here:
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about413-hddesign.html


So Around Christmas 2009 its Grand Cross orbital position again....

at the bottow of the crucifix so to speak....


On top is around June 26....

Identified underlying themes for around June 25 are determined, of which 'exit of Sun King' is one.....


On christmas eve, Grand Cross:

Cardinal suffers broken leg as woman grabs pope
http://edition.cnn.com/20(...)tmas.pope/index.html

Remember Micheal Jackson passed away last 'on top' Grand Cross...

On December 25, 2009 this article was published in Dutch mainstream, its about an insane man who wanted kill Michael Jackson on stage ( article in Dutch):

vr 25 dec 2009, 09:39 Michael Jackson doelwit aanslag van onze redactie
AMSTERDAM - Een gestoorde man wilde Michael Jackson op het podium om het leven brengen. http://www.telegraaf.nl/p(...)anslag__.html?p=8,2n

Remember these orbital positions of the Grand Cross seem somehow related to the exit of the Pope, as I already wrote on the timeline Q2 2010 here: http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about401-hddesign.html

Let's go back to Ali Agca....
quote:
When I read today that Antonov had died, I had to think about Ali Agca's odd release from prison early 2006 and his rearrest a few days later.

Accused Pope assassin Sergei Antonov dies

From correspondents in Sofia, Bulgaria

August 02, 2007 01:21am

SERGEI Antonov, the Bulgarian man accused of trying to kill Pope John Paul II in 1981 but later released for lack of evidence, was found dead in his home today, an official said.

“Antonov died a natural death. The hospital confirmed it to us,” an interior ministry official told Agence France-Presse.

Doctors said Antonov, 58, had died several days ago.

He was found after a neighbour noticed she had not seen him for a couple of days, the BGNES news agency reported.

Antonov, a former manager in the Rome office of Balkan Air, was arrested in 1982 for complicity in the 1981 attack against Pope John Paul II in Saint Peter's Square.

Mehmet Ali Agca, the man arrested on the spot and sentenced for the attack, told police that Antonov had given him the pistol he fired against the Pope and that the Bulgarian secret services were implicated.

Antonov was held for almost four years in Italy, only to be acquitted for lack of evidence in 1986.

He returned to Sofia and lived alone on a Government pension.

http://www.news.com.au/pe(...)5575-5005361,00.html

Antonov had died several days ago.

I think he probably died on July 29, 2007

[quote]Friday, 20 January 2006

Turkey ends Pope gunman freedom

The Turkish gunman who shot Pope John Paul II in 1981 has been rearrested after a court ruled he should return to prison, eight days after being freed.
Turkey's highest appeals court overturned the decision which allowed Mehmet Ali Agca to be released early.


555 awakenings starttriggerdate for July 29, 2007:

January 20, 2006

First thought indicates the connection, the triggerdates unveil the hidden underlying Design[/quote]

So the exact date Antonov died is unknown, but it is around July 29, 2007.

This Bulgarian connection seems indeed related to this assassination attempt on Pope JP II:

HDDesign is stronger than the lie......

Fact is that Antonov died at Phi point between Ali Agca being a FREE man...

Ali Agca was just the shooter, not the organizer....

Ali Agca will be free on January 18, 2010

Antonov died around July 29, 2007

July 29, 2007 - January 18, 2010 = 904 days

904 / Phi Golden mean = 904 / 1.61803399 = 558 days prior to July 29, 2007:

gives around January 17, 2006: Ali Agca was a free man from January 12-20, 2006!!!

Antonov died at Phipoint between Ali Agca being a free man!

When Ali made his statement in order to warn the Pope on September 18, 2006, he also talks about this: "the Pope was pressured by secret services to make such a statement".

The Bulgarian connection seem to confirm the hidden underlying forces at play: we all know who's behind the Bulgarian secret services in those days.

Moscow’s Assault on the Vatican
The KGB made corrupting the Church a priority.

By Ion Mihai Pacepa
The Soviet Union was never comfortable living in the same world with the Vatican. The most recent disclosures document that the Kremlin was prepared to go to any lengths to counter the Catholic Church’s strong anti-Communism.
http://article.nationalre(...)NWUwODJiOTEzYjY4NzI=
Mihai Pacapa:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ion_Mihai_Pacepa

With Ali's warning as a fact and the June 26, 2010 events yet to materialize, I expected to find confirmation back in time with Ali's warning at Phipoint.

So let's see what the Golden Mean has to say when we give this future 'on top' Grand Cross date June 26, 2010 as closer look

June 26, 2010 is the expected timeframe with the underlying 'exit of the pope theme' ( not meaning the pope will die that day, the expressions could become more subtle ). Ali made his statement on September 18, 2006. From June 26, 2010 through Ali's warning at Phi point gives August 12, 2000

On that day an event that should be considered a 'warning' too:

Russian submarine K-141 Kursk was an Oscar-II class nuclear cruise missile submarine of the Russian Navy, lost with all hands when it sank in the Barents Sea on August 12, 2000.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_submarine_K-141_Kursk

We have to wait until the orbital position of the Grand Cross for (ex-KGB) President Putin to show his face:

While the tragedy of the Kursk played out in the Far North, Russia's then President Vladimir Putin, though immediately informed of the tragedy, waited for five days ( Grand Cross Orbital Position ) before he broke a holiday at a presidential resort house in subtropical Sochi on the Black Sea before commenting publicly on the loss of the pride of the Northern Fleet. A year later he said: "I probably should have returned to Moscow, but nothing would have changed. I had the same level of communication both in Sochi and in Moscow, but from a PR point of view I could have demonstrated some special eagerness to return

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_submarine_K-141_Kursk

These are the kind of warnings back in our perspective of time that we we should use to the benefit of the destiny of mankind. Its similar as with the Tunguska event and as a coincidence its Deep Impact Earth flyby today.

These are profound 'revelations' that show up suddenly by synchronicity:

As readers can read in this HDDesign material, the Tunguska event is directly linked to Deep Impact on comet Temple I

Today December 29 is the last of the 3 Earth flyby's of spacecraft Deep Impact/Epoxi

July 4, 2005 Impact on Comet Temple I is Phi point between the December 29, 2009 last Earth flyby of spacecraft Deep Impact/Epoxi and

September 25, 2002


September 25, 2002 - December 29, 2009 = 2.652

2.652 / 2.61803399 = 1.013 days

September 25, 2002 - July 4, 2005 Deep Impact ( phi point) = 1.013 days

Wouldn't it be an 'in the face' confirmation if some kind of a 'Tunguska confirmation' has happened on that day September 25, 2002?

Vitim event

The Vitim event or Bodaybo event is believed to be an impact by a bolide or comet nucleus in the Vitim River basin. It occurred near the town of Bodaybo in the Mamsko-Chuisky district of Irkutsk Oblast, Siberia, Russia on September 25, 2002 at approximately 10:00 p.m. (local time). The event was also detected by a U.S. military missile-defense satellite.

Some attempts were made to define the magnitude of the explosion. U.S. military analysts calculated it was between 0.2–0.5 kilotons, while Russian physicist Andrey Olkhovatov estimates it at 4–5 kilotons.

Information about the event appeared in the mass media and among scientists after only a week. Initially no one was able to understand the magnitude of the explosion. A small expedition, sent by the Institute of Sun–Earth Physics (Irkutsk), tried to find a meteorite within about 10 km from Bodaybo town (people told them– "it has fallen beyond the nearest mountain!").

Some people suggest that this phenomenon is similar to the Tunguska event of 1908.

As reported by Kosmopoisk, in May 2003 an expedition, performed by Kosmopoisk (leader — V. Chernobrov) reached the presumed impact point (about 50 km from Vitimsky settle point). The situation there looked similar to that of the Tunguska river after the Tunguska event in 1908. Snow and water samples were analyzed and found to contain an abnormal amount of tritium, as well as radioactive isotopes of cobalt and caesium.

Summing up all the information V.A. Chernobrov suggested, that the Vitim event could be caused by a falling of a comet nucleus with a diameter about 50–100 meters.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitim_event
Dutch.woensdag 30 december 2009 @ 11:40
quote:
<============>[size=18]Communication[/size]<============>


<============><============>


Deep Impact is an ongoing NASA space probe which was launched on January 12, 2005. It was designed to study the composition of the comet interior of 9P/Tempel ( Temple 1 ), by colliding a section of the spacecraft into the comet. On July 4, 2005, the impactor of the Deep Impact probe successfully collided with the comet's nucleus. The impact excavated debris from the interior of the nucleus, allowing photographs of the impact crater. The photographs showed the comet to be more dusty and less icy than had been expected. The impact generated a large and bright dust cloud, which unexpectedly obscured the view of the impact crater.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Impact_(space_mission)

During the last couple of years this Hyper Dimensional Design 'research' has provided numerous indications of Intelligent Design in our reality.
The elements of HDDesign are based on Hyper Dimensional Physics, HD Platonic Solids geometry, mathematically determined timecoded patterns and orbital positions of the elements of our solarsystem.
The subconscious mind seems to be able to 'tune in' on this hidden underlying Design of our reality and this hidden Design is first unveiled by 'coincidences' and synchronicities that occur.
The conscious human mind is able to rationally understand these intelligent correlations by applying the described elements of HDDesign, but unfortunately most people will dismiss the initial indication and ignore it. Although these people seem to accept that they exist in THIS dimensional realm, they do not want to accept that other dimensional realms even exist.

While the indications are overwhelming

What I have learned from this HDDesign 'research' is that we can get rid of our rigid 3-dimensional ( or 4, time ) perspective of reality, we only have to take these initial indications serious and listen to our intuition first.
While working with this HDdesign material, the 'coincidences' constantly show up, all the time. Not once or twice, or only in the beginning, these coincidences are showing up all the time and its my experience that they are becomming more profound when time proceeds.
As if the ability is increasing, for human consciousness to unlock the real nature of the reality we live in.

This HDDesign research implies that consciousness also resides in other dimensions and that our reality is intelligently connected to other dimensions and that the indications of this connection can be understood with the rational mind.
The solarsystem we live in is also 'reflecting' the hidden undelying Deisgn of our reality, what we are consciously experincing here in our reality, is also reflected by specific orbital positions of the planets in our solarsystem.
If this is understood, one could imagine that a Deep Impact on a comet, just like we did with Comet Temple 1 on July 4, 2005, seems not a good idea. What do we know what kind of effects such an Impact would have for other dimensional realms, for consciousness itself? at all levels? Do we know what comet really represents?

Another underlying theme that shows up regularly in this HDDesign material is the (mis)use of nuclear power. What do we know what kind of effects a nuclear detonation has on other dimensional realms or consciousness itself, at all levels?

<==========> <=========>

With these two biggest mistakes of mankind we have crossed a red line: the use of nuclear weapons ( Hirhoshima / Nagasaki ) and the Impact on comet Temple 1.

And because we've crossed this red line we have been 'warned'.

The 'warning' comes from 'outside' our limited 3D perspective of reality and has been materialized in the past in our limited 3D perspective of time. We have to get rid of our linear perspective of time, these 3D limitations on linear time are only valid in the way we are consciously experiencing our reality, but its a limited perspective.

So this 'warning' has happened in the past of our perspective of time , but it is 'caused' by these 2 big mistakes of mankind.



I talk about the Tunguska event on June 30, 1908
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunguska_event

The connectedness is fundamental and Intelligently determined by the Golden Mean Phi.

Tunguska -- 1 --> decission to use nuclear weapons -- 1,618034-> Deep Impact.

Deep Impact on Comet Temple 1 showed unexpected results and it seems to me that NASA has come to the conclusion that this Impact on comet temple I wasn't a good idea indeed.

There's evidence to support this, a while after the Deep Impact mission NASA started to 'Intelligently Communicate' with their initiated events in space, as if NASA wanted to say "sorry, we made a mistake, we didn't knew but we do understand now".
The 'communication' seems to be directed at other levels of consciousness, so it seems to me for reasons I will explain here.

We go back to May 29, 2008.

The Deep Impact mission was extended with the Epoxi Space mission and on May 29, 2008:

NASA's Deep Impact Films Earth as an Alien World
http://www.nasa.gov/topic(...)s/epoxi_transit.html

"NASA's Deep Impact spacecraft has created a video of the moon transiting (passing in front of) Earth as seen from the spacecraft's point of view 31 million miles away. Scientists are using the video to develop techniques to study alien worlds."



With this Earth-Moon transit captured by Deep Impact/Epoxi spacecraft on May 29, 2008, NASA is deliberately marking a Pi expression in space:

I wrote on January 2 this year:

"This Epoxi ( Deep Impact extended mission) - Earth - moon Transit as captured from Epoxi is awsom, and the awakeningstimeframe + Pi are confirming the hidden underlying Intelligent Design:

3 awakeningstimeframes = ascension timeframe, or 3333 Earth days
3333 / Pi = 1060 days on Earth ( in full days)

Deep Impact on comet Temple I happened on July 4, 2005

The Deep Impact - Moon Earth transit as seen on the picture above happened on May 29, 2008

July 4, 2005 - May 29, 2008 = 1060 days on Earth!

Wake Up!

So this Deep Impact/Epoxi - Moon - Earth Transit happened at ascension starttriggerdate of the end of the Mayan Calendar, on May 29, 2008.

The awakenings timeframe of 1111 days was the first identified element of hidden Intelligent Design that became a key element of these HDDesign theories, followed by the 911 based control timeframe and the ascension timeframe of 3333 days, the latter emphasized in the HDDesign theories as more profound."

and followed by this:

"this is so profound....when intuition speaks:

Deep Impact on comet Temple I happened on July 4, 2005

Deep Impact/Epoxi - Moon - Earth Transit happened at ascension starttriggerdate of the end of the Mayan Calendar, on May 29, 2008.

next scheduled Deep Impact/Epoxi spacecraft flyby of comet Hartley 2: October 11, 2010.

As we have seen in previous posts and on the timeline, this May 29, 2008 timeframe of the Transit had a big emphasis on Pi, unveiling the correlations between Pi, ascension timframe, orbital positions, Deep Impact and the end of the Mayan Calendar

Wouldn't it be an unmistaken confirmation to find Pi expressed by these three events in space: Deep Impact on Temple I, the Epoxi - moon - Earth transit and the comet Hartley 2 flyby?

Wouldn't you think that if a Pi connection is there, it would be an unmistaken indication of hidden underlying Intelligent Design?

fasten year seatbelt: Pi IS expressed by these Deep Impact events:

Timeframe Deep Impact on comet Temple I - comet Hartley flyby / Pi

is the same as:

Pi * difference between:

Deep Impact on Temple I - Epoxi / Moon / Eart Transit

and

Epoxii / Moom / Earth Transit - comet Hartly flyby

or in numbers:

July 4, 2005 ( Deep Impact Temple I) - October 11, 2010 ( comet hartley flyby of spacecraft Deep Impact/Epoxi) = 1925 days rounded

July 4, 2005 - May 29, 2008 Epoxi - Moon transit = 1060 days rounded

May 29, 2008 Epoxi/moon/Earth Transit - October 11, 2010 comet Hartly flyby = 865 days rounded

The difference between 1060 and 865 is 195 days

1925 / Pi = 195 * Pi

or

1925 / Pi / Pi is the difference between the timeframes from the Epoxi/moon/Earth Transit and the 2 Deep Ipact spacecraft events!!

This is so beautiful and fundamental."

This is ONLY meant as a mean to communicate as it became clear that there will never be an encounter with comet Hartley on October 11, 2010.

This was a deliberate communication expressing Pi, initiated by NASA after the Impact on comet Temple 1. NASA is 'communicating' that they understand they shouldn't have impacted comet Temple I.
With this doing so, NASA understands that these kind of 'intelligent' communcations are somehow possible.

The 'confirmation' materialized on the ground that very same timeframe:

The 2008 Barbury Castle Pattern is Pi to 3.14159265358



“The fact that the Pi decimal point is included (in the 2008 Barbury Castle
barley pattern) and there is rounding up to 10 decimal places is to me a little mind boggling!”
– Michael Reed, Astrophysicist

At this stage NASA has only intelligently expressed that it is understood that they made a mistake.

But the communication goes on

October 9, 2009 - Centaur impact on Moon

On June 18, 2009, NASA launched this new "double mission" -- a SUV-sized spacecraft called "Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter" (LRO), designed to map the entire lunar surface in unprecedented detail over the next five years (and, several times); and, a "piggy-back" spacecraft, called the "Lunar Crater Observation and Sensing Satellite" (LCROSS), designed to direct the spent upper stage of the Atlas 5 LRO launch vehicle (the "Centaur" second stage) into a carefully targeted impact with the lunar surface on October 9, 2009.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_Reconnaissance_Orbiter

This LCROSS mission with the moon impact was added to the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter (LRO) mission after Deep Impact on comet Temple 1 and agian this LCROSS missions is more a mean of 'communication' rather than a search for waterice on the moon, as we will see.

After Deep Impact, these 2 events in space followed, expressing the Golden Mean Phi in the same way as the Tunguska 'warning':

3 manmade impacts in space: connected by Golden Mean Phi:

Deep Impact on comet Temple I --- at Phi point U.S. satellite shootdown --- lunar impact

As soon as I understood this connection, the deliberately planned satellite shoot down and Moon Impact on a predetermined timeframe as a mean for 'communication', I wanted to see if the Phi point between the 'incoming communication' Tunguska event on june 30, 1908 and this lunar Impact on October 9, 2009 would give confirmation of the underlying Design.

At Phi point between Tunguska and the Moon Impact on October 9, 2009 Apollo 14 mission to the moon is on its way!

With an actual Impact on the moon too!!!!!!

I wrote:

"So the Apollo 14 moonlanding mission around February 2, 1971 and the October 9, 2009 double impact on the moon are connected with the Tunguska event, with the Apollo 14 moonlanding mission at Phi point.

The Phi point between Tunguska and Deep Impact is July 21, 1945, marking one of the biggest mistakes of mankind: the use of nuclear weapons. Its Earth's orbital position again that is marking the 'communication' that is taking place.

unbeleivable: there has been an actual impact too!!!!!

LRO Sees Apollo 14's Rocket Booster Impact Site

Oct 09, 2009
A distinctive crater about 35 meters (115 feet) in diameter was formed when the Apollo 14 Saturn IVB (upper stage) was intentionally impacted into the moon. The energy of the impact created small tremors that were measured by the seismometer placed on the Moon by Apollo 12 astronauts in 1969.
http://www.moondaily.com/(...)Impact_Site_999.html

Tunguska - Moon Impact - Moon Impact

connected by Phi point Golden Mean

unbelievable

fundamental truth

The message of this 'communication' should be clear

Tunguska is a warning

Human consciousness must remain Earthbound and we should not interfere with objects in space

we must not mess with nuclear power

With the predetermined satellite shootdown en Moon Impact on October 9 NASA is 'communicating'.
And again, just like the Pi cropcircle 'confirming' NASA's Pi expression with Deep Impact/Epoxi space missions ( May 29, 2008) , this NASA 'communication' that the Tunguska 'warning' has been understood, is confirmed during the same timeframe of the lunar Impact around October 9, 2009:

Asteroid explosion over Indonesia raises fears about Earth's defences

An asteroid that exploded in the Earth’s atmosphere with the energy of three Hiroshima bombs this month has reignited fears about our planet’s defences against space impacts.

On 8 October, the rock crashed into the atmosphere above South Sulawesi, Indonesia. The blast was heard by monitoring stations 10,000 miles away, according to a report by scientists at the University of Western Ontario.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/space...s-defences.html

For more details I refer to the timeline Q4 2009 here:
Q4 2009 Timeline, October, November and December 2009
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about386-hddesign.html
you can login with user reader password reader
So December 29, 2009 was the scheduled date of the third Earth flyby of space craft Deep Impact/Epoxi, on its way to its encounter with comet Hartley 2:



As we have seen in the above quoted post, the mission milestones of this Epoxi mission seem to be key elements in the 'communication' that is taking place, rather than actual scheduled events on this Epoxi mission. The first date NASA communicated as encounter with comet Hartley2 , October 11, 2010, was only a mean of 'communication' in order to 'meet' the Intelligent correlations as described in the above quote.

NASA is COMMUNICATING


The question that arises is:

WHERE IS SPACECRAFT DEEP IMPACT/EPOXI?

"Mission controllers at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory began directing EPOXI towards Hartley 2 on November 1, 2007. They commanded the spacecraft to perform a three-minute rocket burn that changed the spacecraft's velocity. EPOXI’s new trajectory sets the stage for three Earth flybys, the first on December 31, 2007 ( again on December 30, 2007 and again on December 29, 2009/Dutch). This places the spacecraft into an orbital "holding pattern" until it’s time for the optimal encounter of comet Hartley 2 in 2010."

NASA has removed the above picture from the official epoxi mission site, but I have saved it in my own photobucket file.

There's no current info available about the current mission status and I also can't find anything about the scheduled December 29, 2009 Earth flyby. Did it actually happen or was it part of the 'communication'?

Was it this second 'Tunguska' warning that made NASA understand their mistake to impact comet Temple I, so NASA started to 'communicate' in order to express that 'we got the message'. ( we are sorry that we impacted comet Temple I, we won't do it again):

about this 'second Tunguska warning':

As readers can read in this HDDesign material, the Tunguska event is directly linked to Deep Impact on comet Temple I

December 29 is the last of the 3 scheduled Earth flyby's of spacecraft Deep Impact/Epoxi

July 4, 2005 Impact on Comet Temple I is Phi point between the December 29, 2009 last Earth flyby of spacecraft Deep Impact/Epoxi and

September 25, 2002


September 25, 2002 - December 29, 2009 = 2.652

2.652 / 2.61803399 = 1.013 days

September 25, 2002 - July 4, 2005 Deep Impact ( phi point) = 1.013 days

Wouldn't it be an 'in the face' confirmation if some kind of a 'Tunguska confirmation' has happened on that day September 25, 2002?

Vitim event

The Vitim event or Bodaybo event is believed to be an impact by a bolide or comet nucleus in the Vitim River basin. It occurred near the town of Bodaybo in the Mamsko-Chuisky district of Irkutsk Oblast, Siberia, Russia on September 25, 2002 at approximately 10:00 p.m. (local time). The event was also detected by a U.S. military missile-defense satellite.

Some attempts were made to define the magnitude of the explosion. U.S. military analysts calculated it was between 0.2–0.5 kilotons, while Russian physicist Andrey Olkhovatov estimates it at 4–5 kilotons.

Information about the event appeared in the mass media and among scientists after only a week. Initially no one was able to understand the magnitude of the explosion. A small expedition, sent by the Institute of Sun–Earth Physics (Irkutsk), tried to find a meteorite within about 10 km from Bodaybo town (people told them– "it has fallen beyond the nearest mountain!").

Some people suggest that this phenomenon is similar to the Tunguska event of 1908.

As reported by Kosmopoisk, in May 2003 an expedition, performed by Kosmopoisk (leader — V. Chernobrov) reached the presumed impact point (about 50 km from Vitimsky settle point). The situation there looked similar to that of the Tunguska river after the Tunguska event in 1908. Snow and water samples were analyzed and found to contain an abnormal amount of tritium, as well as radioactive isotopes of cobalt and caesium.

Summing up all the information V.A. Chernobrov suggested, that the Vitim event could be caused by a falling of a comet nucleus with a diameter about 50–100 meters.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitim_event

So what's up with NASA's Deep Impact/ Epoxi mission?

Did the Epoxi spacecraft fly by Earth Yesterday?

Did NASA abort the mission?

Will the comet encounter with comet Hartley 2 ever take place?
(Last scheduled date of this encounter announced by NASA is November 4, 2010.)

Has the Epoxi mission been changed, without announcements?

Why is related info deleted from the official NASA Epoxi mission site?

Has the Epoxi spacecraft perhaps been taken out?

calling sleuths, help me with looking for answers to these questions.
Killahtwoensdag 30 december 2009 @ 12:13
Ff serieus?! Zijn er mensen die dit serieus nemen?

Er gebeuren 1000en ongelukken of gebeurtenissen op de aarde elke dag, zo kan ik ook voorspellingen doen. En "worldevents" zien als peter r de vries... kom op. En dan pim fortuyn en theo van gogh met obama in verband brengen....

Zo kan ik ook voorspellen met mn phi.

Als je echt een nastradamus bent, geef je een datum die globaal iets betekent en dat je weet wat er dan gebeurt.

Dutch.woensdag 30 december 2009 @ 21:34
After the above post with all the 'Deep Impact' related issues, I decided to give this possible terrorist attack attempt on Northwest Airlines Flight 253 from Amsterdam to Detroit a look, which has happened on December 25, 2009.

I didn't had the time yet because I'm still working and I had other things on my mind when I could do the 'HDDesign research'.

First thought was Richard Reid, who failed to destroy a Boeing 767 on American Airlines Flight 63, a flight from Paris, Charles De Gaulle International Airport to Miami International Airport, USA, by igniting explosives hidden in his shoes. This has happened on December 22, 2001

I decided to calculate the Phi point in between and guess what?

The synchronicity is 'in the face':

Phi point is January 12, 2005

on that day spaceship Deep Impact/ Epoxi was launched from Earth into space!!!!!!!

Which in turn should be connected to 9/11, at least that's what I thought

From Deep Impact launch date January 12, 2005 through 9/11 at Phipoint gives August 18, 1999: the Grand Cross planetary alignment!! ( see previous post about the Pope)
Dutch.donderdag 7 januari 2010 @ 21:18
January 10 + a few days could be interesting. keep an eye on the timeline, updates will follow here later
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about409-hddesign.html
Captain_Zappamaandag 11 januari 2010 @ 00:16
quote:
Op woensdag 30 december 2009 12:13 schreef Killaht het volgende:
Ff serieus?! Zijn er mensen die dit serieus nemen?

Er gebeuren 1000en ongelukken of gebeurtenissen op de aarde elke dag, zo kan ik ook voorspellingen doen. En "worldevents" zien als peter r de vries... kom op. En dan pim fortuyn en theo van gogh met obama in verband brengen....

Zo kan ik ook voorspellen met mn phi.

Als je echt een nastradamus bent, geef je een datum die globaal iets betekent en dat je weet wat er dan gebeurt.

Eens, ik kan voorspellen dat er volgedne week iets gebeurt met het openbaar vervoer.
En er rijd toevallig een bus tegen een paal.
ZoKanIkHetOokmaandag 11 januari 2010 @ 00:29
Ja hallo, ik kom hier op TRU om bang gemaakt te worden voordat ik ga slapen, niet om in de lach te schieten van een hilarisch slechte OP in een dito slecht topic.
VaderVanJezusmaandag 11 januari 2010 @ 02:21
Dutch.woensdag 13 januari 2010 @ 22:58
even tussendoor:

Goro posted this article at Etemenanki:
Wednesday, January 06, 2010
THE GENERAL'S WIDOW: A ROSWELL TELL-ALL
http://ufocon.blogspot.co(...)ell-tell-all-by.html

Today I decided to calculate midpoint between the epi centers of the Haiti and Eureka Earthquakes which appeared to be the city of San Antonio, Texas USA.
With this exact mid point I could determine the Phi point between the 2 quakes:

ROSWELL, NEW MEXICO USA
Dibblezaterdag 16 januari 2010 @ 20:06
Wat een BS

Wel respect voor Dutch dat ie dit al een aantal topics weet vol te houden
Dutch.zaterdag 16 januari 2010 @ 22:55
heb je de timeline gevolgt of moet er een update komen?
Dibblezondag 17 januari 2010 @ 00:10
nee hoor, is prima zo
Dutch.vrijdag 22 januari 2010 @ 12:21
The timelines for 2010:

Q1 2010 timeline
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about409-hddesign.html

Q2 2010 april. may and June
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about401-hddesign.html

Q3 2010 timeline, July - August - September 2010
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about408-hddesign.html

Q4 2010 timeline October, November and December 2010
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about425-hddesign.html

you can login with 'reader' password 'reader'.
Dutch.dinsdag 26 januari 2010 @ 22:22
first a reminder of what has already been posted followed by a 'confirmation' that showed up today:

<============>[size=18]Communication[/size]<============>


<============><============>


Deep Impact is an ongoing NASA space probe which was launched on January 12, 2005. It was designed to study the composition of the comet interior of 9P/Tempel ( Temple 1 ), by colliding a section of the spacecraft into the comet. On July 4, 2005, the impactor of the Deep Impact probe successfully collided with the comet's nucleus. The impact excavated debris from the interior of the nucleus, allowing photographs of the impact crater. The photographs showed the comet to be more dusty and less icy than had been expected. The impact generated a large and bright dust cloud, which unexpectedly obscured the view of the impact crater.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Impact_(space_mission)

During the last couple of years this Hyper Dimensional Design 'research' has provided numerous indications of Intelligent Design in our reality.
The elements of HDDesign are based on Hyper Dimensional Physics, HD Platonic Solids geometry, mathematically determined timecoded patterns and orbital positions of the elements of our solarsystem.
The subconscious mind seems to be able to 'tune in' on this hidden underlying Design of our reality and this hidden Design is first unveiled by 'coincidences' and synchronicities that occur.
The conscious human mind is able to rationally understand these intelligent correlations by applying the described elements of HDDesign, but unfortunately most people will dismiss the initial indication and ignore it. Although these people seem to accept that they exist in THIS dimensional realm, they do not want to accept that other dimensional realms even exist.

While the indications are overwhelming

What I have learned from this HDDesign 'research' is that we can get rid of our rigid 3-dimensional ( or 4, time ) perspective of reality, we only have to take these initial indications serious and listen to our intuition first.
While working with this HDdesign material, the 'coincidences' constantly show up, all the time. Not once or twice, or only in the beginning, these coincidences are showing up all the time and its my experience that they are becomming more profound when time proceeds.
As if the ability is increasing, for human consciousness to unlock the real nature of the reality we live in.

This HDDesign research implies that consciousness also resides in other dimensions and that our reality is intelligently connected to other dimensions and that the indications of this connection can be understood with the rational mind.
The solarsystem we live in is also 'reflecting' the hidden undelying Deisgn of our reality, what we are consciously experincing here in our reality, is also reflected by specific orbital positions of the planets in our solarsystem.
If this is understood, one could imagine that a Deep Impact on a comet, just like we did with Comet Temple 1 on July 4, 2005, seems not a good idea. What do we know what kind of effects such an Impact would have for other dimensional realms, for consciousness itself? at all levels? Do we know what comet really represents?

Another underlying theme that shows up regularly in this HDDesign material is the (mis)use of nuclear power. What do we know what kind of effects a nuclear detonation has on other dimensional realms or consciousness itself, at all levels?

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With these two biggest mistakes of mankind we have crossed a red line: the use of nuclear weapons ( Hirhoshima / Nagasaki ) and the Impact on comet Temple 1.

And because we've crossed this red line we have been 'warned'.

The 'warning' comes from 'outside' our limited 3D perspective of reality and has been materialized in the past in our limited 3D perspective of time. We have to get rid of our linear perspective of time, these 3D limitations on linear time are only valid in the way we are consciously experiencing our reality, but its a limited perspective.

So this 'warning' has happened in the past of our perspective of time , but it is 'caused' by these 2 big mistakes of mankind.



I talk about the Tunguska event on June 30, 1908
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunguska_event

The connectedness is fundamental and Intelligently determined by the Golden Mean Phi.

Tunguska -- 1 --> decission to use nuclear weapons -- 1,618034-> Deep Impact.

Deep Impact on Comet Temple 1 showed unexpected results and it seems to me that NASA has come to the conclusion that this Impact on comet temple I wasn't a good idea indeed.

There's evidence to support this, a while after the Deep Impact mission NASA started to 'Intelligently Communicate' with their initiated events in space, as if NASA wanted to say "sorry, we made a mistake, we didn't knew but we do understand now".
The 'communication' seems to be directed at other levels of consciousness, so it seems to me for reasons I will explain here.

We go back to May 29, 2008.

The Deep Impact mission was extended with the Epoxi Space mission and on May 29, 2008:

NASA's Deep Impact Films Earth as an Alien World
http://www.nasa.gov/topic(...)s/epoxi_transit.html

"NASA's Deep Impact spacecraft has created a video of the moon transiting (passing in front of) Earth as seen from the spacecraft's point of view 31 million miles away. Scientists are using the video to develop techniques to study alien worlds."



With this Earth-Moon transit captured by Deep Impact/Epoxi spacecraft on May 29, 2008, NASA is deliberately marking a Pi expression in space:

I wrote on January 2 this year:

"This Epoxi ( Deep Impact extended mission) - Earth - moon Transit as captured from Epoxi is awsom, and the awakeningstimeframe + Pi are confirming the hidden underlying Intelligent Design:

3 awakeningstimeframes = ascension timeframe, or 3333 Earth days
3333 / Pi = 1060 days on Earth ( in full days)

Deep Impact on comet Temple I happened on July 4, 2005

The Deep Impact - Moon Earth transit as seen on the picture above happened on May 29, 2008

July 4, 2005 - May 29, 2008 = 1060 days on Earth!

Wake Up!

So this Deep Impact/Epoxi - Moon - Earth Transit happened at ascension starttriggerdate of the end of the Mayan Calendar, on May 29, 2008.

The awakenings timeframe of 1111 days was the first identified element of hidden Intelligent Design that became a key element of these HDDesign theories, followed by the 911 based control timeframe and the ascension timeframe of 3333 days, the latter emphasized in the HDDesign theories as more profound."

and followed by this:

"this is so profound....when intuition speaks:

Deep Impact on comet Temple I happened on July 4, 2005

Deep Impact/Epoxi - Moon - Earth Transit happened at ascension starttriggerdate of the end of the Mayan Calendar, on May 29, 2008.

next scheduled Deep Impact/Epoxi spacecraft flyby of comet Hartley 2: October 11, 2010.

As we have seen in previous posts and on the timeline, this May 29, 2008 timeframe of the Transit had a big emphasis on Pi, unveiling the correlations between Pi, ascension timframe, orbital positions, Deep Impact and the end of the Mayan Calendar

Wouldn't it be an unmistaken confirmation to find Pi expressed by these three events in space: Deep Impact on Temple I, the Epoxi - moon - Earth transit and the comet Hartley 2 flyby?

Wouldn't you think that if a Pi connection is there, it would be an unmistaken indication of hidden underlying Intelligent Design?

fasten year seatbelt: Pi IS expressed by these Deep Impact events:

Timeframe Deep Impact on comet Temple I - comet Hartley flyby / Pi

is the same as:

Pi * difference between:

Deep Impact on Temple I - Epoxi / Moon / Eart Transit

and

Epoxii / Moom / Earth Transit - comet Hartly flyby

or in numbers:

July 4, 2005 ( Deep Impact Temple I) - October 11, 2010 ( comet hartley flyby of spacecraft Deep Impact/Epoxi) = 1925 days rounded

July 4, 2005 - May 29, 2008 Epoxi - Moon transit = 1060 days rounded

May 29, 2008 Epoxi/moon/Earth Transit - October 11, 2010 comet Hartly flyby = 865 days rounded

The difference between 1060 and 865 is 195 days

1925 / Pi = 195 * Pi

or

1925 / Pi / Pi is the difference between the timeframes from the Epoxi/moon/Earth Transit and the 2 Deep Ipact spacecraft events!!

This is so beautiful and fundamental."

This is ONLY meant as a mean to communicate as it became clear that there will never be an encounter with comet Hartley on October 11, 2010.

This was a deliberate communication expressing Pi, initiated by NASA after the Impact on comet Temple 1. NASA is 'communicating' that they understand they shouldn't have impacted comet Temple I.
With this doing so, NASA understands that these kind of 'intelligent' communcations are somehow possible.

The 'confirmation' materialized on the ground that very same timeframe:

The 2008 Barbury Castle Pattern is Pi to 3.14159265358



“The fact that the Pi decimal point is included (in the 2008 Barbury Castle
barley pattern) and there is rounding up to 10 decimal places is to me a little mind boggling!”
– Michael Reed, Astrophysicist

At this stage NASA has only intelligently expressed that it is understood that they made a mistake.

But the communication goes on

October 9, 2009 - Centaur impact on Moon

On June 18, 2009, NASA launched this new "double mission" -- a SUV-sized spacecraft called "Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter" (LRO), designed to map the entire lunar surface in unprecedented detail over the next five years (and, several times); and, a "piggy-back" spacecraft, called the "Lunar Crater Observation and Sensing Satellite" (LCROSS), designed to direct the spent upper stage of the Atlas 5 LRO launch vehicle (the "Centaur" second stage) into a carefully targeted impact with the lunar surface on October 9, 2009.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_Reconnaissance_Orbiter

This LCROSS mission with the moon impact was added to the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter (LRO) mission after Deep Impact on comet Temple 1 and agian this LCROSS missions is more a mean of 'communication' rather than a search for waterice on the moon, as we will see.

After Deep Impact, these 2 events in space followed, expressing the Golden Mean Phi in the same way as the Tunguska 'warning':

3 manmade impacts in space: connected by Golden Mean Phi:

Deep Impact on comet Temple I --- at Phi point U.S. satellite shootdown --- lunar impact

As soon as I understood this connection, the deliberately planned satellite shoot down and Moon Impact on a predetermined timeframe as a mean for 'communication', I wanted to see if the Phi point between the 'incoming communication' Tunguska event on june 30, 1908 and this lunar Impact on October 9, 2009 would give confirmation of the underlying Design.

At Phi point between Tunguska and the Moon Impact on October 9, 2009 Apollo 14 mission to the moon is on its way!

With an actual Impact on the moon too!!!!!!

I wrote:

"So the Apollo 14 moonlanding mission around February 2, 1971 and the October 9, 2009 double impact on the moon are connected with the Tunguska event, with the Apollo 14 moonlanding mission at Phi point.

The Phi point between Tunguska and Deep Impact is July 21, 1945, marking one of the biggest mistakes of mankind: the use of nuclear weapons. Its Earth's orbital position again that is marking the 'communication' that is taking place.

unbeleivable: there has been an actual impact too!!!!!

LRO Sees Apollo 14's Rocket Booster Impact Site

Oct 09, 2009
A distinctive crater about 35 meters (115 feet) in diameter was formed when the Apollo 14 Saturn IVB (upper stage) was intentionally impacted into the moon. The energy of the impact created small tremors that were measured by the seismometer placed on the Moon by Apollo 12 astronauts in 1969.
http://www.moondaily.com/(...)Impact_Site_999.html

Tunguska - Moon Impact - Moon Impact

connected by Phi point Golden Mean

unbelievable

fundamental truth

The message of this 'communication' should be clear

Tunguska is a warning

Human consciousness must remain Earthbound and we should not interfere with objects in space

we must not mess with nuclear power

With the predetermined satellite shootdown en Moon Impact on October 9 NASA is 'communicating'.
And again, just like the Pi cropcircle 'confirming' NASA's Pi expression with Deep Impact/Epoxi space missions ( May 29, 2008) , this NASA 'communication' that the Tunguska 'warning' has been understood, is confirmed during the same timeframe of the lunar Impact around October 9, 2009:

Asteroid explosion over Indonesia raises fears about Earth's defences

An asteroid that exploded in the Earth’s atmosphere with the energy of three Hiroshima bombs this month has reignited fears about our planet’s defences against space impacts.

On 8 October, the rock crashed into the atmosphere above South Sulawesi, Indonesia. The blast was heard by monitoring stations 10,000 miles away, according to a report by scientists at the University of Western Ontario.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/space...s-defences.html

For more details I refer to the timeline Q4 2009 here:
Q4 2009 Timeline, October, November and December 2009
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about386-hddesign.html
you can login with user reader password reader

I have posted much more in relation to what I have to rell today but its to much to repost. I do want to remind you of what I poated on June 5 last year:

"The destiny of mankind is in our hands, we will keep on running towards nuclear devastation or we will crash land safe, the probability of the latter goes hand in hand to what extend we will be able to listen to ‘Tunguska’s warning’.
“Don’t mess with nuclear power ( Hirhoshima/Nagasaki) and stay out of space ( Deep impact on Tempe I )”


So Tunguska happened at THE moment in order to mark the Phi point between Tunguska and Deep Impact. This phipoint marks the moment that it was decided to uses nuclear arms on Japan.

This 'Hirshosima crash' ( reread previous posts about the identification ) happened on August 6 2005, THE moment with at Phi point in between Tunguska the moment the military order to use nuclear weapons was given

So both Tunguska and the Hirhoshima crash on August 6, 2005 happened on an intelligently Designed moment in our perception of time, marking Deep Impact and the political decision and mission orders to use nuclear arms on Hirhoshima-Nagasaki.

And now the signifigance of flight 522 ‘running on autopilot towards nuclear event’ crash in Marathon, Greece, becomes clear in full force:

Tunguska and flight 522 crash are marking at Phi point:

August 6, 1945 – detonation of an atomic bomb on Hirhoshima !!!!!!

Now lets see what has happened during this Easter weekend because I expected a related event. Flight 522 was flying on autopilot with the pilots and passengers frozen to death.

Besides this emerging nuclear conflict with Korea with it space launch I noticed this on the same CNN main page when I was monitoring this timeframe ( for more related events see timeline Q2 2009 ):

From the timeline:

updated april 14-15

Report: North Korea to quit nuclear talks
http://edition.cnn.com/20(...)rea.talks/index.html
Passenger helps land plane after pilot dies
Controllers help him turn off autopilot, land plane: "The turn looks good, very good sir"
"an Easter miracle"
http://edition.cnn.com/20(...)emergency/index.html

So the warnings given by Tunguska and the August 6 and 14 2005 crashes should be understood, but the Design is also indicating that we can land this plane safe so to speak. Just like this praying pilot on August 6, 2005 or Yamaguchi becoming a double Hibakusha, the Hudson crash landing or these people experiencing this Easter miracle.

Much will depend on how we will deal with the related karmic issues that are coming up. "

So now we are back to today's developments.
I was at work and had to think about the jet crash in Lebanon that happened on January 25.

As you can see on the timeline I have pre-determined this date as related to 'Deep Impact':

January 25, 2010 - deep Impact on comet Temple I is ascencion start triggerevent

This Ethiopia plane 'flew wrong way' when it left from Rafik Hariri - airport in Beirut.

With Flight 522 'running on autopilot towards nuclear event' crash on August 14, 2005 as such an important marker in the communication that is taking place, I had to think of the correlations between these 2 crashes as part of the 'communication'.
While I was at work it suddenly popped up in mind to determine the two Pi points similar as with the 'Deep Impact' communication as explained above in this post.

In order to 'express' Pi between 2 events you have to devide the timeframe in between twice with Pi. Than you have to deduct that result from the timeframe and devide the remaining by 2. Add the result to one of this halfs and you get 2 points in between that express Pi together.

That's how it is determined with this Deep Impact - Moon - earth transit and comet encounters as described above.

Anyway, in this case it means:

Flight 522 crash August 14, 2005 - January 25, 2010 Lebanon crash is
1625 days

Devide 1625 twice by Pi: 1625 / 3.14159265 / 3.14159265 = 164.6 days rounded

deduct 164.6 from the timeframe in between:

1625 minus 164.6 = 1460,4

devide by 2 = 730 rounded

So 730 is the first point and 730 +164,6 is the second point that expres pi together on a 'line'

I already sensed something signifigant was coming up when I determined the first Pi date in relation to the August 14, 2005 and January 25, 2010 crashes:

I almost fell off my chair when I noticed that the first Pi point was at Earths same orbital position as during the Flight 522 'running on autopilot towards a nuclear event' crash: August 14, 2007
exactly 2 Earth orbits after the first crash

I was flabbergasted when I noticed that the second Pi point gave January 25, 2008
exactly 2 Earth orbits prior to the last crash

THIS IS COMMUNICATION THAT IS TAKING PLACE!!!!!!

despite of the guidance from the traffic tower in Beirut, this plane took the wrong way towards it devastation.

It seems we are still running on autopilot towards a nuclear event
sir_Tachyonwoensdag 27 januari 2010 @ 13:19
@Dutch

Heb je ook visuele weergaves van je bovenstaande berekeningen. En misschien wat standaard regels over waarom en wanneer je iets door Pi deelt of vermenigvuldigd???
Dutch.vrijdag 29 januari 2010 @ 21:34
Ik heb helaas geen mooie software voor de visuele aspecten, of de tijd om daar mee bezig te zijn.

Het onderliggende element van Intelligent ontwerp wordt 'gedetecteerd' door het onderbewuste in eerste instantie. Vaak zijn dat trigger events, orbital posities, Phi punten maar ook Pi. Ik weet te weining waarom het de ene keer Phi ( golden Mean) is en de andere keer Pi, wat mij wel opvalt is dat veel wat met de "deep Impact' materie te maken heeft op Pi gebaseerd is.
Het is zelfs met flight 522 crash in 2005 die 'Deep Impact'gerelateerd is dat Pi voor het eerst in het HDDesign naar voren kwam. En Pi komt iedrekeer in dit 'Deep Impact' verband terug

read the follow up post here:
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?p=9562&mforum=hddesign#9562

I expect that the number of updates on the timelines will increase signifigantly and I'm not sure if I will be able to cross post in time. I will focus on the HDDesign material first and I will try to cross post updates as much as possible

updates are logged at Hyper Dimensional Design main forum:
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/forum-1-hddesign.html
you can login with 'reader' password 'reader'.
sir_Tachyonmaandag 1 februari 2010 @ 12:07
quote:
Op vrijdag 29 januari 2010 21:34 schreef Dutch. het volgende:
Ik heb helaas geen mooie software voor de visuele aspecten, of de tijd om daar mee bezig te zijn.

Het onderliggende element van Intelligent ontwerp wordt 'gedetecteerd' door het onderbewuste in eerste instantie. Vaak zijn dat trigger events, orbital posities, Phi punten maar ook Pi. Ik weet te weining waarom het de ene keer Phi ( golden Mean) is en de andere keer Pi, wat mij wel opvalt is dat veel wat met de "deep Impact' materie te maken heeft op Pi gebaseerd is.
Het is zelfs met flight 522 crash in 2005 die 'Deep Impact'gerelateerd is dat Pi voor het eerst in het HDDesign naar voren kwam. En Pi komt iedrekeer in dit 'Deep Impact' verband terug

Software hoeft van mij ook niet. Maar een diagram of een grafiek, want ik krijg wel het idee dat je die berekeningen op die manier kan weergeven. Ik ben niet echt een expert in grafieken maken e.d. maar ik denk dat je er wat meer aanhangers door krijgt.
Ik zag ook heel vluchtig dat posities van planeten van bepaalde gebeurtenissen op punten uitkomen waar je dan bijvoorbeeld een Tetrahedron uit op te maken is. Zijn er nog meer geometrische figuren op te maken uit een reeks van data?
Dutch.donderdag 4 februari 2010 @ 22:36
Ik kan gewoon niet te lang stil staan om bevindingen duidelijker te presenteren. Ik ben me ervan bewust dat het erg veel vergt van iemand die probeert het te begrijpen, maar het is niet anders.

Eeen hyper dimensional tetrahedron krijgt zijn geometrische oorsprong mee van 'buiten' onze 3 ( of 4) dimensies. In onze realiteit hebben ze geen vorm maar je kan het het beste visualiseren door 2 tegenovergestelde Tetrahedrons the plaatsen op de omloopbaan van de aarde rond de zon. 1 naar boven ( noord ) en 1 naar zuid gericht. De zon staat in het midden ahw.

Nu moet je je voorstellen dat deze HD tetrahedrons gekanteld worden en in elkaar geperst, zodat er eigenlijk alleen nog maar geometrisch bepaalde punten op de omloopbaan overblijven die de geometrische correlaties van de HD Tetrahedron weergeven. Als de aarde op dat punt van de omloop aankomt worden de onderliggende thema's in onze 3D realiteit gemanifesteerd.

Zo gaat het ook met de andere Platonic Solids, in iedere mogelijke orientering
Handschoendonderdag 4 februari 2010 @ 22:59
quote:
Op donderdag 4 februari 2010 22:36 schreef Dutch. het volgende:
Ik kan gewoon niet te lang stil staan om bevindingen duidelijker te presenteren. Ik ben me ervan bewust dat het erg veel vergt van iemand die probeert het te begrijpen, maar het is niet anders.
Dan vraag ik me toch af... Als je je bewust van bent dat mensen het niet begrijpen zonder er gigantisch in te verdiepen, in materie waar bijna geen doorkomen aan is... Waarom post je het dan ? Doe je het vooral voor jezelf??

Als je er iets meer energie in zou steken om het voor meer mensen begrijpelijk te maken zal je niet alleen meer medestanders krijgen n.a.v. je postings, maar wellicht mensen die met je mee doen om dit onderliggende design te ontcijferen en je zelf ook verder komt...
sir_Tachyonvrijdag 5 februari 2010 @ 09:00
Vind ik wel een goed punt van Handschoen. Maar volgens mij is Dutch geen kluizenaar zonder baan enzo dus ik kan mij wel voorstellen dat hij alleen tijd heeft voor de recente ontwikkelingen.

@Dutch, zijn er aanhangers op je forum die het eventueel kunnen verduidelijken? Want ik wil het eigenlijk toch wel een keer gaan snappen.
Dutch.vrijdag 5 februari 2010 @ 15:26
Kijk,

Ik ben inderdaad geen kluizenaar. Ik heb een drukke baan en ook thuis heb ik weining tijd omdat ik een gezin heb met kleine kinderen. Ik ben hier al een jaar of 6 a 7 mee bezig en zeker in de begin tijd had ik weining kennis en moest ik alles intuitief uitzoeken en dmv synchroniteiten gaan begrijpen. In het begin had ik ook meer tijd en ook een baan ver onder mijn niveau waardoor ik onder werktijd een heleboel tussendoor kon doen.

Ik ben dit materiaal gaan delen omdat het naar mijn overtuiging boodschappen bevat die ons allen aan gaan als we het hebben over de bestemming van de mensheid.

Het is niet mijn eerste doel om iemand individueel tot begrip te brengen maar meer om dmv de tijdslijnen te gaan begrijpen in wat voor diepere context de gebeurtenissen in onze realiteit plaats vinden.

Ik denk dat iemenad die het wil begrijpen niet bij het begin moet beginnen, maar beter aan de hand van de tijsdslijnen steeds wat meer materiaal te lezen.

Dit is niet zomaar een verhaal dat verteld kan worden. Het zal verworpen worden.
Persoonlijk ervaar ik iedere dag van die 'toevalligheden' en synchroniteiten die bevestiging geven, maar een lezer moet ook zelf investeren in het materiaal en er mee aan de slag gaan.
Kennis komt niet zo maar aanwaaien. Ik ben altijd bereid om specifieke vragen te beantwoorden maar er moet echt ook geinvesteerd worden om het te proberen te begrijpen.

In het verleden heb ik op meerdere forums uitleg gegeven en die staan ook allemaal vermeld op het HDDesign forum. Wellicht is het handig om ook die uitleg door te lopen, maar alles kost tijd: je moet er echt in investeren. In de tussentijd kunnen de onrtwikkelingen rond de tijdslijnen in de gaten gehouden worden en zo beetje bij beetje meer kennis te verkrijgen.

Dit is geen commercieel verhaal om meer aanhangers te krijgen, ik wil het in eerste instantie gewoon begrijpen. Daarvoor moet ik 'reseach'doen, toevalligheden en synchronicities serieus nemen en opvolgen, het materiaal loggen, toekomstige tijdsgecodeerde patronen identificeren en lopende patronen monitoren, het nieuws bij houden en ook nog eens mijn bevindingen naar de mensen brengen dmv cross-postings. En dat gedurende jaren achtereen, want dat is nodig om het rigide werkelijkheidsbeeld van de meeste mensen uiteindelijk te doorbreken. Dat kan alleen als mensen zelf die 'toevalligheden'gaan (h)erkennen waarop dit HDDesign gebaseerd is.
sir_Tachyonvrijdag 5 februari 2010 @ 15:34
Fair enough. Ik ben wel bereid om een keer in het diepe te duiken maar dat zal nog wel een tijdje duren. Tot dan, keep them coming, Dutch.
Dutch.zondag 28 februari 2010 @ 22:31
Chili is with Mercury The messenger at same orbital position as during the expected 'contact' around August 23, 2010.

read Goro's update about Enki:
Contact via Earthquakes
Pentagonal Stargate Activation 2010
http://www.goroadachi.com/etemenanki/contact-penta-quakes.htm

Eureka on January 10, 2010 was at VENUS at same orbital postion as during August 23, 2010


see also the Roswell correlations in HDDesign and Goro's work

AUGUST 23, 2010 IS HDDESIGN ONLY!

I'm currently filtering 'Enki' from the HDDesign material

May 27, 2010 is the last orbital position of an inner planet prior to 'contact'

updates are posted on the timelines and the 'Enki' thread

http://hddesign.forumup.nl/index.php?mforum=hddesign
Handschoenmaandag 1 maart 2010 @ 12:37
Heeft het design deze aardbeving niet door laten schemeren Dutch?
Dutch.maandag 1 maart 2010 @ 21:52
23 augustus 2010 is al in juni 2009 bepaald en op de tijdslijn gezet voor Q3 2010

Deze aardbevingen ( Eureka en Chili ) markeren 'contact' via de omloop posities van de binnen planeten

Ik heb hier meer over gepost en je moet ook Goro's update lezen
UncleScorpdinsdag 2 maart 2010 @ 10:48
quote:
Op maandag 1 maart 2010 21:52 schreef Dutch. het volgende:
23 augustus 2010 is al in juni 2009 bepaald en op de tijdslijn gezet voor Q3 2010

Deze aardbevingen ( Eureka en Chili ) markeren 'contact' via de omloop posities van de binnen planeten

Ik heb hier meer over gepost en je moet ook Goro's update lezen
Goro is niet geschikt voor Fok ... daarom laat ik zijn naam/site ook zo weinig mogelijk vallen in topics hier. Alles wordt hier toch maar belachelijk gemaakt.
quote:
Op zondag 28 februari 2010 22:31 schreef Dutch. het volgende:

AUGUST 23, 2010 IS HDDESIGN ONLY!
Wat mogen we hier onder verstaan/verwachten Dutch ?
Handschoendinsdag 2 maart 2010 @ 12:10
Wat is een Goro
sir_Tachyondinsdag 2 maart 2010 @ 12:33
quote:
read Goro's update about Enki:
Contact via Earthquakes
Pentagonal Stargate Activation 2010
http://www.goroadachi.com/etemenanki/contact-penta-quakes.htm
Goed lezen.
Boswachtertjedinsdag 2 maart 2010 @ 20:16
In hoeverre is STRUG de moeite waard? Dutch of Unclescorp ervaring daarmee? Vraag het me toch telkens weer af, als ik weer op de site van Goro kom..

Ook maar weer eens verder lezen op HDD forum!
Dutch.dinsdag 2 maart 2010 @ 22:29
Ik lees STRUG niet

I want to talk about the Tunguska Event and the Roswell crash again.

I already showed to you that if the Roswell crash is at Phipoint on a timeline marked by the Tunguska Event, than the other marker would be August 23, 2010. I will monitor that date very closely and it will be added to the timeline of Q3 2010.

That's with the Roswell crash at Phi point 'outwards':

Tunguska June 30, 1908 - Roswell crash July 7, 1947 = 14.251 days

14.251 * Phi 1.61803399 = 23.058

Roswell crash July 7, 1947 - August 23, 2010 = 23.058 days


There's ofcourse also a marker with the Roswell crash at Phi point 'inwards'.

That marker is determined as August 17, 1971 ( +/- 1 day as usual):

Tunguska June 30, 1908 - Roswell crash July 7, 1947 = 14.251 days

14.251 / 1.6180339 = 8.807 days

Roswell crash July 7, 1947 - August 17, 1971 = 8.807 days

The 'communication' in relation to Tunguska and Roswell in our reality is Intelligently marked by Mercury 'The Messenger':

Tunguska - Rowell = 14.251 days
August 17, 1971 - August 23, 2010 = 14.251 days

162 Mercury Years of 87.9691 Earth days is 14.251 days

Mercury 'The Messenger' at same orbital position.

In line with Tunguska and Roswell I expected to find somekind of extra-terrestrial 'confirmation around August 17, 1971 (+/-1 day)
The Black Manta Ray U.F.O.
(Incident at Crow Creek August, 1971)
Abductee; John R. Renz Ex-Airman U.S.A.F. 1971.
http://www.iwasabducted.c(...)ve1/messages/84.html
with more details:
http://www.iwasabducted.com/vidimagic/part1.htm
and part 2
http://www.iwasabducted.com/vidimagic/part2.htm

With these 'Nagca lines communication' themes as mentioned on the timeline Q1 2010 I have to say that the 'contact' theme is on my mind in relation the the current developments. Couldn't put my finger on it though.
Goro seems to be able:

Contact via Earthquakes
Pentagonal Stargate Activation 2010
http://www.goroadachi.com/etemenanki/contact-penta-quakes.htm

last evening I had this 'experience' while playing on my daughters nintendo. I was playing soccer and in the game the German keeper Encki ( who committed suicide last year ) made an OWN GOAL.

I had to think about that, Enki making an own goal....

Than I just read Goro's update:
quote:
Enki works in mysterious ways. He sees the angles. He sees the alignments. He understands space. He understands time. It's '2010' and he comes in peace. Contact via earthquakes... This is it. This is how it begins...
Earth is Enki's own goal

http://www.goroadachi.com/etemenanki/contact-penta-quakes.htm

Note that I identified the Roswell crash site as calculated phi point between the Eureka and Haiti Earth quakes.....

Goro is mentioning the Roswell crash site too in his update.

'Nagza' and Mars should be considered part of the communication aswell

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October 1, 2007 - February 27, 2010

Mercury 'The Messenger' at same orbital position again

10 Mercury Years in Earth days is 880 days

repost:

The Hyper Dimensional Octahedron timeframe around October 1, 2007 showed alot of 'Enki symbolism' in the actual events that happened during that timeframe, as mentioned on the timeline

In response to my posts about this HD Octahedron timeframe, someone at another forum asked me about the Tunguska 1908 event, because she thought it must figure in somehow. I considered this to be a synchronicity and look what popped up instantly, I replied to her:

I must say that I nearly fell out of my chair. I had to think of Deep Impact on Independance Day July 4, 2005.

at Phi point:

July 20, 1945

US President Harry S. Truman approves order for atomic bombs to be used.

related events:

The Tunguska event, sometimes called the Tunguska explosion, was a massive explosion that occurred near the Podkamennaya (Under Rock) Tunguska River in what is now Krasnoyarsk Krai of Russia, at 7:40 AM on June 30, 1908.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunguska_event

Deep Impact is an ongoing NASA space probe launched on January 12, 2005 that was designed to study the composition of the interior of the comet 9P/Tempel (old-style name "P/Tempel 1") by colliding a section of the spacecraft into the comet. At 5:52 UTC on July 4, 2005, the impactor of the Deep Impact probe successfully impacted the comet's nucleus, excavating debris from the interior of the nucleus.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Impact_%28space_mission%29

The 'Enki Symbolism' becomes apparent again:

The composition of the Tunguska body remains a matter of controversy. In 1930, the British astronomer F.J.W. Whipple suggested that the Tunguska body was a small comet. A cometary meteorite, being composed primarily of ice and dust, could have been completely vaporized by the impact with the Earth's atmosphere, leaving no obvious traces. The comet hypothesis was further supported by the glowing skies (or "skyglows" or "bright nights") observed across Europe for several evenings after the impact, apparently caused by dust that had been dispersed across the upper atmosphere.

In 1978, Slovak astronomer Ľubor Kresák suggested that the body was a piece of the short-period Comet Encke, which is responsible for the Beta Taurid meteor shower; the Tunguska event coincided with a peak in that shower.[11] It is now known that bodies of this kind explode at frequent intervals tens to hundreds of kilometres above the ground. Military satellites have been observing these explosions for decades.

Tunguska event
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunguska_event

Just like there's a difference between nuclear technology and the actual decission to use this technolgy in order to detonate nuclear bombs, there's
also a difference between going on a little space trip and impacting a comet's nucleus ( given the possibility that we indeed live in an solar system that is part of a multidimensional reality, at least that's what this HDDesign 'research' seems to indicate):

we are probably crossing a red line

We didn't decide to use nuclear bombs because of Tunguska

We didn't decide to impact the Temple I because of Tunguska

I wrote in my online diary:

"This HD Octahedron timeframe has been very interesting. The publication during the timeframe about the solar CME which ripped off comet Enki's tail is indeed very interesting, but the fact that the events actually took place during the HD Tetrahedron timeframe around April 21 is very profound and 'in the face', at least to me. I posted about Enki in relation to this HD Tetrahedron timeframe around April 21 and at the very same moment this event related to comet Enki actually took place in space, simultaneously!
The HD Tetrahedron timeframe in April was already loaded with symbolism as i have posted on the timeline and in the 'breaking the Code' thread, especially in relation to Marathon and the ancient myths.
I think it is about time we seriously ask ourselves these question:

Where did the ancients get their inspiration from when they created their myths?

Could it be possible that events in our times are somekind of an echo of these ancient myths, or are they expressions of the same underlying themes?

Is it perhaps possible that the visionairs and profets of ancient times 'saw' our current times and translated them into understandable language of the ancient times, so that we in fact are creating the myths of our past?

I really think we have to get rid of our linear perceptive of time, the hyper Dimensioanl Design has always been there and will always be there, we are just travelling on a 3D planet from interaction to interaction."

With that said, I want to emphasize the possibility of Tunguska being a warning because of our decission to use nuclear weapons and our interference with objects that belong to our solarsystem.

a few days later I wrote in my diary:
"Last week when somebody asked me about The Tunguska event I had to think about Deep Impact on Temple I instantly. When I calculated the Phi point I saw that it should be somewhere during WWII but not Hirhoshima-Nagasaki, because I didn't recognize the Hirhoshima/Nagasaki - Deep impact timeframe as such. As this has everything to do with consciousness, I expected that the nuclear theme would pop up somehow, probably with nuclear testing or decission making. That's what I thought just before I came to know about the exact date of the Phi point between Tunguska and Deep Impact.
I have to emphasize that I almost fell out of my chair when I noticed that this Phi point coincided with the approval by the US President to use nuclear bombs!!! ( which actually happened some days later).

I think we really have to let go our linear perspective of time and our rigid perception of causality.

We have to deal with these carmic issues indeed, but it would be a very bad idea for someone to decide to misuse nuclear power again. very bad for our destiny."

You might think that it is just not possible and even delusional to even think about this possibility, but look what popped up by synchronicity when I gave it a second look:

There has been another event similar as Tunguska. When Mercury 'The Messenger God' saw Tunguska happen, Mercury was at a specific geometrical position and Mercury was at exactly that same position again when this other event happened:

Eastern Mediterranean Event

The Eastern Mediterranean Event was a high-energy aerial explosion over the Mediterranean Sea, around 34ºN 21ºE (between Libya and Crete, Greece) on June 6th, 2002[1]. This explosion, similar to a small atomic bomb, has been related to an asteroid undetected while approaching the Earth. The object disintegrated and no part was recovered. Since it didn't reach the surface and it exploded over the sea, no crater was formed.

Similar to the Tunguska event, the asteroid —about 30ft in diameter— exploded as a consequence of the energetic alteration of atmospheric entries. It was detected by satellites and seismographic stations, with a calculated yield of about 26 kt (doubling Hiroshima, approximately Nagasaki, a small modern nuclear bomb). Had it detonated on a populated area, the consequences would have been catastrophic.

Additionally, India and Pakistan —nations with nuclear weapons— were in a high alert. It has been said that had the explosion happened in this area (quite probable, since the position of the Eastern Mediterranean Event and the disputed Kashmir territory are in the same latitude, thus being a matter of only a few hours by cause of Earth rotation), it could have been possibly taken for an attack, potentially triggering a nuclear war between these countries.[1][2][3]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Mediterranean_Event

June 29, 1908 - June 6, 2002 is 34.310 days is 390 Mercury years in Earth days: Mercury 'The Messenger' at same geometrical position.

I think our destiny will depend on how we deal with these warnings.

I think the Hariri killing still is the initial trigger that could cause a war scenario to evolve. If a major war will breakout, than it is very likely that nuclear weapons are going to be used.

It must not happen

It doesn't have to happen

Its potentially there but we are able to express the underlying themes at a more subtle level in our reality.

now back to the current events.

THE 8.8 CHILI QUAKE HAPPENED 2 MERCURY YEARS IN EARTH DAYS UNTIL "CONTACT" AROUND AUGUST 23, 2010. SEE TIMELINE Q3 2010
quote:
August 6, 2010 - next perihelion Comet Enke ( ENKI ), during last perihlion the Sun ripped off comet Encke's tail with a CME
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comet_Encke

August 23, 2010 - Contact



August 29, 2010 - next on the Phi based timecoded spiral Venus Transit 2004 - flight 522 'running on autopilot towards nuclear event' crash.
May 27, 2010 - 1 Mercury Year in Earth days prior to ENKI CONTACT

Eureka quake January 10, 2010 - August 23, 2010 'contact':


exactly 1 Venus Year in Earth days
quote:
Next perihelion: 6 August 2010 , Earth's orbital position of Hiroshima

Near Earth object 2004 TG10 may be a fragment of Encke.

Epoch: June 18, 2009

Earth's orbital position of awakenings endtriggertimeframe related to flight 447 crash ( around June 16, 2010 )
June 1, 2009 – Air France Flight 447, en route from Rio de Janeiro, Brazil to Paris, crashes into the Atlantic Ocean, killing all 228 on board.

2 VENUS YEARS IN EARTH DAYS PRIOR TO 'CONTACT'

flight 447 was taken down by Design

So what about Mars.......

Around October 6, 2008 - 1 Mars year in Earth days prior to 'contact'

2 deadly Earthquakes:

An earthquake of magnitude 6.6 hits near the border between Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan, killing 60 people.
Another earthquake of magnitude 6.4, with two magnitude-5 aftershocks, hits Damxung, Tibet, People's Republic of China, with conflicting casualty reports anywhere from 9 to 30 deaths.

As above, so below. At the same time WE were passing Mercury 'The Messenger'

but most important:

Be aware of the fact that August 23, 2010 is determined directly from the Tunguska event, with the Roswell crash at Phipoint

from the timeline Q3 2008

Asteroid Exploded in Earth's Atmosphere
By SPACE.com Staff

posted: 08 October 2008
01:26 pm ET


A small asteroid exploded over Africa this week following what astronomers said was the first firm prediction of an incoming space rock.

It did not strike Earth.

The asteroid was about the size of kitchen table, astronomers estimated, and they think the explosion (caused by the pressures of slamming into the atmosphere) left nothing but perhaps a few small bits to fall to the surface.

No photographs of the explosion have been reported, owing to the remote location of the object's path over Sudan. But the explosion was recorded by an infrasound array in Kenya. Peter Brown at the University of Western Ontario estimated, based on the infrasound data, that the asteroid exploded at 0243 UT with an energy of somewhere between 1.1 and 2.1 kilotons of TNT.

On Monday, NASA researchers and other scientists announced that the space rock, named 8TA9D69, would enter the air at 10:46 p.m. ET (0246 UT) on Oct. 7 over northern Sudan. Such events occur a few times every year, but never before had one been predicted. The object was expected to create a very bright fireball that, for anyone who might have seen it, would have been far more dramatic than the typical shooting star resulting when small debris streaks through Earth's atmosphere.

"A typical meteor comes from an object the size of a grain of sand," Gareth Williams of the Minor Planet Center explained just before the highly anticipated event. "This meteor will be a real humdinger in comparison!"

There has been one visual confirmation of the exploding fireball, according to Spaceweather.com. Jacob Kuiper, a general aviation meteorologist at the National Weather Service in The Netherlands, told pilots to keep an eye out.

"I have received confirmation that a KLM airliner, roughly 750 nautical miles southwest of the predicted atmospheric impact position, has observed a short flash just before the expected impact time 0246 UTC," Kuiper said. "Because of the distance it was not a very large phenomenon, but still a confirmation that some bright meteor has been seen in the predicted direction."

The rock was discovered by an ongoing survey at Mt. Lemmon run by the University of Arizona as part of the NASA-funded Catalina Sky Survey for near-Earth objects.

http://www.space.com/spacewatch/081008-asteroid-exploded.html

The MESSENGER spacecraft makes its second pass of the planet Mercury.

With these big Earth quakes at Mercury ( Chili) and Venus ( Eureka)orbittal positions marking this timeframe around August 23, it is Mars to unveil what this truly is about 'Tunguska':
quote:
A small asteroid exploded over Africa this week following what astronomers said was the first firm prediction of an incoming space rock.

It did not strike Earth.
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?p=9996&mforum=hddesign#9996

according to my understanding this means that:

THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT WE WIL BE ABLE TO KNOW WHAT'S POTENTIALLY OUT THERE AND WHEN , GIVING POSSIBILITY TO LESSEN ITS IMPACT BY TAKING OUR RESPONSIBILITIES.
STAY OUT OF SPACE, KEEP HUMAN CONSCIOUSNESS EARTHBOUND AND DON'T FUCK WITH NUCLEAR POWER

At 3 Venus Years in earth days: October 18, 2008:

Meteorite crash suspected near Alice

Sat Oct 18, 2008

Police believe a meteorite crashed near Alice Springs on Friday night.

Residents at the remote Wallare Rock Hole Community report hearing a loud bang and feeling the ground shake at around 7:00pm local time.

Alice Springs Police have ruled out an aviation accident, saying authorities have accounted for all aircraft.

Watch Commander Senior Sergeant Malcolm Passmore says officers went to the community to investigate but did not find anything.

He says police will now talk to the US Seismic Activity Centre to see if it can provide any clues as to the meteorite's location.

"Some other follow-ups were done with the tower here at the Alice Springs airport and some further enquires are going to made here today with the seismic monitoring station here in Alice Springs," he said.

Mick Tickner from the Apatula Community Store describes seeing a spectacular light.

"[It] started off just a light trail as it passed across the sky and flared into a super brilliant gold and white light, and then looked like it was heading towards the Alice Springs area," he said.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/10/18/2394700.htm

I think the next possibility for the Big One in the USA ( San Andreas ) is around Grandcross orbital position June 25, 2010, especially June 23

Venus at same orbital position as during Robert Enke committed suicide

repost from the 'Bautforum thread' in 'ongoing HDDesign threads area of HDDEsign forum:

[quote="Dutch"]Back to OJ

Suit Simpson wore to '95 acquittal will be offered to Smithsonian
http://edition.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/03/02/simpson.suit/index.html

I decided to give it a look again and saw at wiki that OJ was born during the Roswell Crash timeframe: July 9, 1947

I dunno yet what to think...........but I gonna keep an eye on this especially in relation to the 'contact' timeframe around August 23, 2010 which is directly determined from the Roswell crah and the Tunguska Event[/quote]

As regular readers might recall, or those who were involved in the discussion on Baut forum back than: Its Mercury the Messenger unveiling the timecoded patterns in relation to this OJ case.

Now with this connection to 'Enki contact' communication I was curious what Mercury has to unveil in relatuion to this OJ - Nicole Brown drama.

Nicole was killed on June 12, 1994

I had to think of the German goal keeper Robert Encke ( ENKI ) who committed suicide last year on November 10, 2009

June 12, 1994 - November 10, 2009 = 5.630 days

Mercury The Messenger at same orbital position!

64 Mercury years in earth days is 64 * 87.9691 = 5.630 days

Its kind of creepy, these synchronicities that show up everywhere now in relation to this 'Enki communication'.

I thought to check the ascension triggerdate related to Robert Encke's suicide

It appears to be the start of the annually recurring 13 days Satanic period in 2005:

April 19, 2005

Papal conclave, 2005: Ringing bells and white smoke at the Vatican indicate that, after four ballots, a new Pope, German Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, has been elected. He has taken the regnal name Pope Benedict XVI.

[quote="Dreemz"]hmm, how "eerily" close his DOB April 16th and so close to 19th
start of the "13" Satanic Days...

Pope Benedict
Josef Ratzinger

www.wikipedia

Date of Birth: April 16, 1927, in Germany
Ordained priest: June 29, 1951
Consecrated Abp of Munich and Freising: March 25, 1977
Episcopal Ordination: May 28, 1977
Created Cardinal: June 27, 1977
Elected Pope: April 19, 2005[/quote]

This really gives me the chills....

first thought when I just read this is OJ's birthsday in relation to this 'Enki communication'

As I said earlier today.....Mercury The Messenger is unveiling

It shows up instantly, within a few seconds I logged in and read this post

April 16, 1927 - July 9, 1947 = 7.389 days

I Checked Mercury:

84 Mercury years in Earth days = 84 * 87.9691 days = 7.389 days

Mercury The Messenger at same orbittal position.

The 'Enki communication' in ongoing, keep an eye on the timelines

It wouldn't amaze me if a >7 EQ would happen around the last orbital position of Mercury marking 'contact': May 27, 2010

followed by a big EQ in the San Andreas area around Earth's orbital position of the Grand Cross: around June 26, 2010, with a possibility on June 23 too ( Venus at same orbital position as during Robert Ecke committed suicide )

I expect 'Contact' is around August 23, 2010, not by means of EQ, but more like somekind of 'Tunguska' 'conditioning'

Mount St. Helens/Yellowstone is expected for around HD Cube timeframe in November this year. That means EQ or volcanic activity, high impact or subtle.
UncleScorpwoensdag 3 maart 2010 @ 08:31
quote:
Op dinsdag 2 maart 2010 20:16 schreef Boswachtertje het volgende:
In hoeverre is STRUG de moeite waard? Dutch of Unclescorp ervaring daarmee? Vraag het me toch telkens weer af, als ik weer op de site van Goro kom..

Ook maar weer eens verder lezen op HDD forum!
STRUG geeft volgens mij meer dagelijkse follow-up. "Gewone" lezers moeten nu maanden wachten op een nieuw artikel. En dat allemaal door ene Jake Kotze die met Goro's standpunten en werk ging lopen en op een eigen site presenteerde
Soit, ik twijfel ook al lang om me lid te maken van STRUG maar het is er nog steeds niet van gekomen. Maybe the time is right now

2010 belooft weer een bewogen jaar te worden
Dutch.vrijdag 12 maart 2010 @ 10:40
Het is 'Srebrenica karma' dat opnieuw zijn weg vind en het is inderdaad Venus-based en gekoppeld aan de 911 gebaseerde Phi spiraal in onze samenleving ( Fortuyn -van Gogh). Hans van Mierlo is overleden, ten tijde van het Srebrenica drama minister van Buitenlandse zaken. Hans van Mierlo heeft gezegd dat 'Srebrenica' hem altijd is blijven achtervolgen.

Het is 8 jaar en 13 venus jaren geleden dat het NIOD rapport inzake Srebrenica in vertrouwen overhandigd werd aan Minister President Wim kok. Het is een vergelijkbaar tijdsbestek als tussen de 2 Venus Transits van onze tijd.

Op het midden punt, vergelijkbaar met het Venus Transit midpoint, stierf Milosevic in zijn gevangenis in Scheveningen

Net als in 2002 hebben we weer een gevallen regering, een nieuwe Pim Fortuyn in de persoon van Geert Wilders, die net als Pim het goed deed bij de gemeente raad...

Pim werd vermoord op 6 mei

We beleven een karmische echo die door het overlijden van Hans van Mierlo benadrukt wordt.

Er gebeurd veel momenteel, op veel gebieden die voor het HDDesign 'onderzoek' van belangzijn voor de 'ontcijfering' van de 'communicatie' die plaats vind.

Ik heb geen tijd om alles the vertalen en/of cross-posten

hou de ontwikkelingen hier bij:
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/index.php?mforum=hddesign

Updates volgen later weer
Dutch.vrijdag 12 maart 2010 @ 21:32
Hans van Mierlo, Dutch foreign minister at time of fall of Srebrenica, dies at age 78

Van Mierlo, who died late Thursday, was foreign minister in 1995 when outnumbered and outgunned Dutch peacekeepers looked on helplessly as Bosnian Serb forces overran the Srebrenica enclave in Bosnia and went on to massacre some 8,000 Muslim men.

May I remind you that Earth is at same orbital position as during Milosevic was taken out

That would be 'Milosevic' at midpoint on a similar timeframe as the timeframe between the 2 Venus Transits, with the exit of van Mierlo during the current timeframe we see the NIOD report handed over to PM Kok in mid March 2002 ( confidential):
quote:
half maart 2002 conclusies NIOD-rapport vertrouwelijk bekend bij Kok
see timeline here:
http://m.europa-nu.nl/9353000/1/j9vviaekvp0oeyh/vh8lnhrp8wsg


In April 2002, the Dutch government resigned after the publication of research into the events around the fall of the Bosnian enclave of Srebrenica, which was under the protection of Dutch peacekeepers, in 1995. Trade unions representing military personnel have called for the resignation of the army leadership at the time and for a parliamentary inquiry, which has now been launched.

In mid-April 2002, the government led by Prime Minister Wim Kok resigned following publication of the findings of research by the Dutch Institute for War Documentation (Nederland Instituut voor Oorlogsdocumentatie, NIOD) into the events surrounding the fall in 1995 of the Bosnian Muslim enclave of Srebrenica, which was being protected by Dutch peacekeeping troops, and the subsequent massacre of inhabitants. The government was a coalition of the social democratic Labour Party (Partij van de Arbeid, PvdA), the liberal Party for Freedom and Democracy (Vereniging voor Vrijheid en Democratie, VVD) and the social liberal Democraten 66 (D66).

Mr Kok had been Prime Minister at the time of the events in Srebrenica and, accepting responsibility for the consequences, resigned along with the rest of the cabinet, several of whom had also been in government at the time. A general election was already due to be held in May 2002, and until then the current government will remain in place in a caretaker capacity.

Although the cabinet's resignation stems from a will to accept political accountability, the report into the Srebrenica affair found that, while the ministers and secretaries of state were indeed responsible at a political level, the leadership of the army withheld relevant information from them with respect to Srebrenica. Consequently, the General Federation of Military Staff (Algemene Federatie van Militair Personeel, AFMP), the trade union for military personnel affiliated to the Dutch Trade Union Federation (Federatie Nederlandse Vakbeweging, FNV), is demanding that the army leadership responsible at the time should resign. The AFMP chair, Ton Heerts, is calling for the public prosecutor to investigate if the former commanding officer, Hans Couzy and the rest of the army leadership can be held liable under criminal law for the events that unfolded in Srebrenica in 1995.

According to the NIOD report, the truth about the Srebrenica situation was knowingly withheld by army officers. A deliberate attempt was made to restrict the amount of information disclosed and, where possible, to sweep aside disagreeable subjects. Commanding officer Couzy, the report states, destroyed his personal archives, despite knowing how important the information was at the time and would be later. According to the AFMP union, the deliberate actions of the former army leadership have tarnished the image of Dutchbat, the Dutch military contingent in Bosnia.

ACOM, the military services union affiliated to the Christian Trade Union Federation (Christelijk Nationaal Vakverbond, CNV), also believes that the conclusions of the NIOD report should have consequences for the military leadership. Their actions, ACOM claims, have left Dutchbat saddled with the blame, even though the lower-level military personnel cannot be accused of any wrongdoing. Dutchbat must be cleared of all blame.

The parliamentary inquiry demanded by the unions and deemed desirable by politicians has now been initiated by the latter, and a number of high-ranking military officers involved at the time have either resigned or been dismissed.
http://www.eurofound.euro(...)brief/nl0204105n.htm


A Mandate Yet to be Faithfully Executed

The Hague Tribunal was established to deliver justice and the historical record related to the crimes, (grave violations of international humanitarian law), committed during the conflict(s) in the lands of the former Yugoslavia. This United Nations Security Council, (UNSC), mandate shaped and adopted during my tenure as BiH’s Ambassador and Permanent Representative to the UN on behalf of the Republic of BiH, was not limited by either time or the nationality of those who might be investigated or prosecuted. Certainly there is no limiting of scope to the actions of the leaders or citizens of the former Yugoslav states alone. Nonetheless, it appears to many that the Tribunal has been steered clear of investigations that might expose culpability that is reflective on the big powers or potentially embarrassing, perhaps inconvenient.

And we should here remind of another mandate adopted by both the UNSC and NATO: to make Srebrenica, Zepa, Gorazde and three other BiH population centers into “safe areas” protected by UN peacekeepers on the ground and ultimately shielded by NATO air power from above, “protected zones”. While such mandate may have been made moot in the eyes of some when Srebrenica and Zepa were overrun, the basic legal responsibility cannot be extinguished until the UN and NATO complete an objective investigation as to whether these “safe areas” were undermined by premeditated and/or reckless action.

Netherlands’ Peacekeepers in Enclave Also Abandoned by Allies?

From almost the date of Srebrenica and Zepa’s fall, I have questioned and asked for answers. Then Dutch Defense Minister Jorvis Voorhoeve has now also put his suspicions clearly on the record, on the side of those demanding answers, (from October 22, 2009 BBC interview of Mr. Voorhoeve linked below):
“I know from intelligence sources that there were already Serb decisions to take the three Eastern enclaves among which was Srebrenica. Those decisions were taken probably in May and June – two months before.”

Joris Voorhoeve further alleges that the international community knew the attack was coming.

“Two security council members had knowledge that the attack was coming. I’m not saying they had knowledge the attack would be followed by mass murder. In any case they did not do anything with this knowledge.”

—–

On the eve before Srebrenica was to fall, I met with then Defense Minister Voorhoeve as well as then Foreign Minister Hans van Mierlo to urge them to confront the oncoming Serbian onslaught, (intelligence of which Voorhoeve had shared with me some weeks before). The Dutch UN peacekeeping troops in Srebrenica had to rely upon NATO air power to fend off any attack by Serbian military vastly superior in ground troops and weapons. (The local defense forces were largely disarmed with their heavy weapons placed under UN control). Of course, both the Srebrenica residents and Dutch peacekeepers were dependent upon a reliable response by UN and NATO commanders to turn the “dual key” launching the nearby NATO planes.

Staying in almost hourly communication, the night before the fall Voorhoeve called to inform me that he had in fact formally demanded NATO air support. He also announced the same decision to his Dutch citizens over live TV broadcast. The NATO air strikes never came, and the most critical question as to why not has never been answered for the benefit of the UN’s and NATO’s credibility as well as justice and the rights of the victims. Voorhoeve also claims that no credible answer has been provided:

“Why were his calls for air strikes the night before ignored? And why was there no action taken more than a month previously, when – according to Mr. Voorhoeve – the Serbs’ intentions to attack were known? (Same BBC interview linked below).

from: The implications of the Butcher’s trial
http://europeancourier.or(...)her%E2%80%99s-trial/

I think I have said it dozens of times, but to remind you:

eventually HDDesign will unveil who's responsible for this drama, besides the Dutch gouvernment. Air support was refused and that decission has been taken on authority.

The truth will come out...it HAS to come out

it IS Venus based!!! 8 years or 13 Venus years in earth days, the timeframe between the 2 Venus Transits of our times

To make it clear:

NIOD report about Srebrenica given to Prime Minister Wim Kok, mid March 2002

8 years later or 13 Venus years in Earth days or the timeframe between the 2 Venus transits of our times:

Hans van Mierlo dies, Minister of Foreighn Affairs at the time of the Srebrenica massacre. ( March 11, 2010 )

At midpoint or similar as on Venus Transit Midpoint:

Milosevic died in his prison in The Hague, The Netherlands ( March 11, 2006 )

This Srebrenica karma is 'expressing' again

Again we have a fallen gouvernment in The Netherlands. Pim Fortuyn was killed on May 6, 2002. Elections are coming up...
Geert Wilders could be considwered the new Pim Fortuyn.

We have to acknowledge our responsibily for the Srebrenica massacre or we will have to learn it the hard way.

Also: Who's responsible for the decission to refuse air support asked by the Dutch soldiers on the ground?

Hans van Mierlo in this interview:
http://www.binnenlandsbes(...)eest-aan.99481.lynkx
quote:
Tot op de dag van vandaag is nog steeds niet de diepste reden opgehelderd waarom die luchtsteun niet kwam - met sterke vermoedens dat er wellicht toch afspraken waren waarvan alleen Mladic en Janvier en misschien president Chirac afwisten.
This is about the air support that was refused so Dutch-bat was unable to defend Srebrenica. Hans van Mierlo expresses his ideas here that he thought there were indeed secret agreements between Mladic and Janvier and perhaps Jacques Chirac, French President during the Srebrenica Massacre.
quote:
'Ik heb die dag met iedereen gebeld: met Kofi Annan, met Akashi, de speciale VN-vertegenwoordiger in voormalig Joegoslavië, met mijn Europese collega's. Op een gegeven moment kwam er het wilde voorstel van Chirac om Srebrenica terug te veroveren. Dat heb ik namens het kabinet afgeschoten. Ik dacht: ben je nou helemaal gek. Niemand was daar trouwens voor, alleen Chirac. Het was zó onrealistisch dat ik me later afvroeg: is het ter compensatie van iets anders, heeft Chirac een soort schuldgevoel? Maar het is moeilijk om daarover te praten, want voor je het weet verval je in een beschuldiging die je niet kunt waarmaken.
Here he says that Chirac proposed to kick the serbs out of Srebrenica again. Everybody thought Chirac was nuts and Hans thought Chirac proposed this because of he felt guilty to what has happened in Srebrenica

This is a very interesting development.
quote:
To make it clear:

NIOD report about Srebrenica given to Prime Minister Wim Kok, mid March 2002

8 years later or 13 Venus years in Earth days or the timeframe between the 2 Venus transits of our times:

Hans van Mierlo dies, Minister of Foreighn Affairs at the time of the Srebrenica massacre. ( March 11, 2010 )

At midpoint or similar as on Venus Transit Midpoint:

Milosevic died in his prison in The Hague, The Netherlands ( March 11, 2006 )

This Srebrenica karma is 'expressing' again

Again we have a fallen gouvernment in The Netherlands. Pim Fortuyn was killed on May 6, 2002. Elections are coming up...
Geert Wilders could be considwered the new Pim Fortuyn.

We have to acknowledge our responsibily for the Srebrenica massacre or we will have to learn it the hard way.

Also: Who's responsible for the decission to refuse air support asked by the Dutch soldiers on the ground?
Jacques Chirac....Who's responsible?

I have said numerous times that these patterns will eventually unveil who's responsible for the Srebrenica Massacre.........

I thought that the 'echo' timeframe back in 2002 could give a hint....

The Srebrenica massacre started on July 11, 1995 with the fall of Srebrenica and lasted for several days of mass executions of Muslim man and boys.

During the Srebrenica Karma 'echo' of 2002, with Earth at the same orbital position as during the Srebrenica massacre, this has happened that indicates the answer to who else is responsible for the Srebrenica Massacre:

On 14 July 2002, during Bastille Day celebrations, Chirac survived an assassination attempt by a lone gunman with a rifle hidden in a guitar case. The would-be assassin fired a shot toward the presidential motorcade, before being overpowered by bystanders. The gunman, Maxime Brunerie, underwent psychiatric testing; the violent far-right group with which he was associated, Unité Radicale, was then administratively dissolved.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_Chirac

HDDesign is stronger than any lie

Hans van Mierlo was right but he couldn't prove it.....HDDesign confirms though.

Synchronicity:

So we talk about the Srebrenica Karma 'echo' in 2002......

With Earth at the same orbital poition in 2002 of the start of this Srebrenica drama:

On July 10, 2002:

At a Sotheby's auction, Peter Paul Rubens' painting "The Massacre of the Innocents" (first version) is sold for £49.5million (US$76.2 million) to Kenneth Thomson, 2nd Baron Thomson of Fleet.

Massacre of the Innocents
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Massacre_of_the_Innocents

Srebrenica Karma:

May 5, 2002 – In the second round of the French presidential election, Jacques Chirac is reelected.
May 6, 2002 – In the Netherlands, politician Pim Fortuyn is assassinated.

Mladic is still out there because there are responsible people who don't want him to testify.....
Dutch.dinsdag 16 maart 2010 @ 10:43
Rosetta Flies By "Something" Very Strange ....
from the enterprisemission:
http://www.enterprisemiss(...)ta-analysis-test.htm
quote:
Based on the results of our completely independent research, I would say Alford's "exploded planet cult ... " is quite alive and well ... and, among other places, living "high off the taxpayers" both in NASA and in ESA ....

Looking at this remarkable Rosetta comparison (above), one is definitely struck by the eerie resemblance between "the inanimate architecture of an ancient, massive platform ... flying through space ..." and the features of a living symbol ... "a falcon metaphor for a far more ancient inanimate form ... known formally as 'the distant one' ... flying through the skies of Ancient Egypt ...."

That such a mythological overlay is more than "coincidental," is the thesis of much of Alford's work: which is, that the ancient mythological images and "textual codes" underlying all Egyptian Civilization (such as those attached to "Horus"... ) and the Sumerian's equally striking "sky imagery," are actually metaphorical "explanations" of potentially real, incredibly ancient personages and events ... from that long-lost period of pre and post cataclysm solar-system history ...."

And Horus was, of course, the son of OSIRIS.

What better that "an OSIRIS camera" ... to take "his" close-up imagery now ...?

If Ancient Egypt was the "metaphorical map" of people and events from an even more "unimaginable time ..." -- endlessly relived and replayed in the mythology of much more "recent" ancient civilizations here on Earth -- this could well answer our key question:

How did ESA KNOW before they sent the mission ... that Steins was, in actuality, an artificial platform!?

Answer:

Because of the current existence of Alford's "exploded planet cult ..." which (again, somehow ...) provided ESA with access to far more ancient (and far less "ambiguous" ...) solar system information ...

Perhaps in the form of carefully preserved texts ... even actual images (!) ....

Whatever form this information took, it apparently (judging by the results) faithfully recorded snippets of real "ancient solar system events ..." and even incredibly useful navigation data, such as possibly ... exact ephemerides (locations ...) of some surviving ancient spacecraft orbiting the Sun ... masquerading as "mere asteroids" even now ....
If any of this speculation is true ... it could finally, neatly, explain the otherwise "almost impossible-to-understand" overall Rosetta Mission Plan ... the "extended, tortuous course" that ESA (claimed it) was forced to send Rosetta on ... just to reach "its" back-up comet, Comet 67P/Churyumov- Gerasimenko.

In truth, because Steins currently orbits "ten degrees above the solar system plane ...", any clandestine mission would HAVE HAD to involve such a critical set of complex maneuvers after leaving Earth ... all to effect THAT crucial, unavoidable "plane change" to reach Steins' orbit.

And, "plane changes" in interplanetary travel are EXTREMELY expensive -- in terms of fuel.

So, if Steins was the Primary Mission all along, then the selection of a second comet, ALSO orbiting well above the solar system plane, was ESSENTIAL to the cover story ... with one big loophole--

If an "alternate comet" was needed as a target (after "Comet Wirtanen" had been originally selected and then scrapped, forced by the delay) ... why did ESA choose another comet ALSO in "a highly inclined orbit?" Every extra day spent on the ground, after being fabricated, was an extra day on which some onboard random electronic system could literally break down (fail ...) -- resulting potentially in a later mission loss!

So--

Why add EXTRA, "risky" time (~11 years ...) -- hundreds of millions of extra miles traveling through space, looping past planets ... once ... twice ... three times! -- all, just to rendezvous with another "highly-inclined comet" (Wirtanen has an inclination of almost 12 degrees ...)?

When--

Much more accessible comets orbit much closer to the central solar system plane ...?!

Instead of eleven years ... such an alternative "in plane" comet rendezvous could have been achieved in just a couple years ....

So, why add the highly risky "extra time" ...?

Unless you HAD to--

In order, in a MOST undercover way ... to fly-by Steins!
As I have explained earlier with the 'communication' post, Pi seems to be expressed with these 'events' in space:

In order to 'express' Pi between 2 events you have to devide the timeframe in between twice with Pi. Than you have to deduct that result from the timeframe and devide the remaining by 2. Add the result to one of this halfs and you get 2 points in between that express Pi together.

read this post here first:
'Communication'
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?p=9548&mforum=hddesign#9548

As it was Pi day last Sunday I thought to check the awakenings trigger date that appears to be around September 5, 2008 and I posted it here on Monday at HDDesign forum:
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?p=10233&mforum=hddesign#10233

Whit this I was reminded about the Rosetta flyby again and I decided to read the Enterprise article about this very strange object in space

Richard Hoagland said:
quote:
such as possibly ... exact ephemerides (locations ...) of some surviving ancient spacecraft orbiting the Sun ... masquerading as "mere asteroids" even now ...
At this point I thought to give Asteroid Steins a closer look and because it was Pi day that made me check the triggerdates, i decided to apply the Pi-correlation as first unveiled with the spacecraft 'Deep Impact' related events in space as explained in the 'communication' post.

Steins orbit is 1326,736 Earth days

1326,7 / Pi / Pi = 134.4 Earth days

1327,7 - 134,4 = 1192,3 Earth days

The 2 Pi points are

1192,3 / 2 = 596,2 Days

and

596,1 +134, 4 = 730,5 Earth days

THAT'S EXACTLY 2 EARTH YEARS OR THE SAME ORBITAL POSTION OF EARTH.

EXACTLY IN THE SAME WAY AS WITH THIS 'DEEP IMPACT COMMUNICATION' AS SHOWN HERE IN THE HDDESIGN MATERIAL

In other words:

[size=18]Earth's orbit is encoded in Steins orbit by Pi[/size]

Whatever Steins really is, or what has happened to it, fact is that Steins is now orbitting our Sun with an orbit that marks our own Earth's orbit in an Intelligent way.


So now that the 2 Pi points are determined as a timeframe of 596 and 730 days, we shoulg keep an eye on these timeframes in relation to Rosetta's fly by of 'asteroid' Steins.

That means 596 and 730 days after the flyby is April 24, 2010 and September 5, 2010 and I will put these 2 dates on the timelines of Q2 and Q3 2010

With 1 of the Pi points marking Earth's orbit, I decided to give the otherone a closer look : This timeframe of 596 days prior to Rosetta's fly by gives around January 18, 2007

That timeframe was mentioned on the timeline first half 2007:

quote:
January 18, 2007 - Deep Impact on a 911 based inspiralling (563 days)
Dwarf planet 'becoming a comet'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/6268799.stm
Deep Impact Galactica, posted on January 18: http://www.goroadachi.com/etemenanki/deepimpact-galactica.htm
another Deep Impact event in space:
China Tests Anti-Satellite Weapon
http://quickstart.clari.net/voa/art/fj/2007-01-18-voa73.html
China test sparks space arms fears
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/6278867.stm
Concern over China's missile test
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/6276543.stm
US demands answers on China test
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/6281247.stm
The Pi dates are mentioned on the timelines here:

Q2 2010: http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about401-hddesign.html

Q3 2010: http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about408-hddesign.html

note that aother 'strange object' shows up around January 18, 2007:

Dwarf planet 'becoming a comet'

An unusual dwarf planet discovered in the outer Solar System could be en route to becoming the brightest comet ever known.


Artist's impression: 2003 EL61 is a strange object
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6268799.stm
Dutch.woensdag 17 maart 2010 @ 10:09
quote:
An unusual dwarf planet discovered in the outer Solar System could be en route to becoming the brightest comet ever known.

2003 EL61 is a large, dense, rugby-ball-shaped hunk of rock with a fast rotation rate.

--snip--

But it is extremely unusual: spinning on its axis every four hours, it has developed an elongated shape.
from the link in the previous post:
Dwarf planet 'becoming a comet'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6268799.stm

extremely unusual?

I thought to give Rosetta's final destination a look:

Comet 67/C-G

Sixty-one images of comet 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko were taken with the Wide Field Planetary Camera 2 on board the Hubble Space Telescope on 11-12 March 2003. The HST's sharp vision enabled astronomers to isolate the comet's nucleus from the coma. The images showed that the nucleus measures five by three kilometres and has an ellipsoidal (rugby ball) shape. It rotates once in approximately 12 hours.
"Although 67P/C-G is roughly three times larger than the original Rosetta target, its elongated shape should make landing on its nucleus feasible, now that measures are in place to adapt the lander package to the new configuration before next year's launch," said Dr. Philippe Lamy of the Laboratoire d'Astronomie Spatiale in France.

http://doublestar.esa.int(...).cfm?fobjectid=14615
Jumparoundwoensdag 17 maart 2010 @ 10:55
Waarom is het "extremely unusual"?
Er zijn miljoenen, zoniet miljarden planeetachtigen in de oortwolk en dichter bij huis.
Uiteraard zal er eens 1 richitng het centrum van het zonnestelsel worden geslingerd.

Daarnaast duurt het nog heeeeeeeeeeeel lang voordat boven genoemde planetoide "hier" aankomt. Een miljoen jaar als ik het goed gelezen heb.
Dutch.woensdag 17 maart 2010 @ 12:50
het is de vorm en rotatie die door BBC / science als extreem ongewoon wordt betiteld zoals je kan lezen in het BBC artikel. Het gaat om de timing van dit soort info die die zomaar uit het niets ineens opduikt in het HDDesign materiaal. En 67P/C-G heeft precies zo'n vorm en rotatie.
Ik merk aan jouw reactie dat er geen snars van begrijpt. Het is ook moeilijk maar concentreer je dan op zijn minst op de 'toevalligheden' en de onderliggende samenhang
Dutch.woensdag 17 maart 2010 @ 12:51
quote:
At this point I thought to give Asteroid Steins a closer look and because it was Pi day that made me check the triggerdates, i decided to apply the Pi-correlation as first unveiled with the spacecraft 'Deep Impact' related events in space as explained in the 'communication' post.

Steins orbit is 1326,736 Earth days

1326,7 / Pi / Pi = 134.4 Earth days

1327,7 - 134,4 = 1192,3 Earth days

The 2 Pi points are

1192,3 / 2 = 596,2 Days

and

596,1 +134, 4 = 730,5 Earth days

THAT'S EXACTLY 2 EARTH YEARS OR THE SAME ORBITAL POSTION OF EARTH.

EXACTLY IN THE SAME WAY AS WITH THIS 'DEEP IMPACT COMMUNICATION' AS SHOWN HERE IN THE HDDESIGN MATERIAL

In other words:

[size=18]Earth's orbit is encoded in Steins orbit by Pi[/size]

Whatever Steins really is, or what has happened to it, fact is that Steins is now orbitting our Sun with an orbit that marks our own Earth's orbit in an Intelligent way.
So the Pi point of Steins' orbit is determined as 730.5 Earth days or exactly 2 Earth years of 365.25 days

After the flyby of 'asteroid' Steins the Rosetta spacecraft continued its mission and next event on its mission was an Earth flyby on its way towards asteroid Lutetia.

This Earth flyby happened on November 13, 2009 and was the last of 4 planet flyby's of rosetta spacecraft.

The previous flyby ( the third) happened on November 13, 2007!!!!

exactly 2 Earth years!!!!


Rosetta is confirming this Intelligent Pi based correlation between Earth and Stein's orbits right after its encounter with Steins by an Earth Flyby exactly 2 years later than the previous one, exactly the same timeframe as based on the Pi point of Steins' orbit.

This is the same Pi based Design as with the Deep Impact/Epoxi mission and the lunar impact mission, as identified and explained in the HDDesign material with previous posts.

With these 'manmade' events in space as expressed with rosetta spacecraft, we are 'communicating' that the Intelligent correlations with Earth in relation to Steins are understood.

Its so obvious and clear....and its shows up in the HDDesign material just like that, instantly after an initial synchronicity....again showing that 'we' are 'communicating' with our current missions in space based on the same identified Geometry as with the Deep Impact and Lunar Impact missions.....its so profound......

To think that this is just a coincidense is insane

This is '2010 the year that we make contact'......

and we are 'talking', whether we are aware of it or not
Jumparoundwoensdag 17 maart 2010 @ 13:48
quote:
Op woensdag 17 maart 2010 12:50 schreef Dutch. het volgende:
het is de vorm en rotatie die door BBC / science als extreem ongewoon wordt betiteld zoals je kan lezen in het BBC artikel.
quote:
But it is extremely unusual: spinning on its axis every four hours, it has developed an elongated shape.
Jaja, extremely unusual indeed. In mijn ogen raar maar als je kijkt naaar de enorme hoeveelheid planetoiden die er zijn niet meer dan logisch.
quote:
Het gaat om de timing van dit soort info die die zomaar uit het niets ineens opduikt in het HDDesign materiaal.
Vind je het erg als ik je connectie omzeep help door te zeggen dat de meeste hits op 17 januarie zijn!
quote:
The 2007 Chinese anti-satellite missile test was conducted by China on January 11
om er nog maar 1 aan te halen.
dat is 1 tot 6 dagen naast jou datum van 18 januari. Wat je Pi geen goed doet.
quote:
En 67P/C-G heeft precies zo'n vorm en rotatie.
Als ze beter onderzoek konden doen naar cometen zouden ze er misschien nog wel meer vinden.
quote:
Ik merk aan jouw reactie dat er geen snars van begrijpt.
Ik merk aan je topic dat je een beetje wereldvreemd beeld hebt van de wereld buiten je pc
quote:
Het is ook moeilijk maar concentreer je dan op zijn minst op de 'toevalligheden' en de onderliggende samenhang
Poging gedaan tot. Helaas kom ik met mijn beperkt wereldbeeld niet verder dan dit. Helaas, sorry dutch
Jumparoundwoensdag 17 maart 2010 @ 13:54
quote:
Op woensdag 17 maart 2010 12:51 schreef Dutch. het volgende:


and we are 'talking', whether we are aware of it or not
Dit in het bijzonder vind ik een rare opmerking.
quote:
With these 'manmade' events in space as expressed with rosetta spacecraft, we are 'communicating' that the Intelligent correlations with Earth in relation to Steins are understood.
?
Dutch.woensdag 17 maart 2010 @ 22:29
quote:
Poging gedaan tot. Helaas kom ik met mijn beperkt wereldbeeld niet verder dan dit. Helaas, sorry dutch
geeft niet
Jumparounddonderdag 18 maart 2010 @ 09:14
quote:
Op woensdag 17 maart 2010 22:29 schreef Dutch. het volgende:

[..]

geeft niet
gelukkig maar
Handschoendonderdag 18 maart 2010 @ 15:45
Ik snap wat je aan het doen bent en probeert te bereiken. Keep up the good work
Maurice76donderdag 18 maart 2010 @ 17:02
Iik begrijp dat het concept achter HDD bestaat uit het leggen van verbanden tussen zaken die ogenschijnlijk geen verband met elkaar hebben en voor de leek bestaand uit "toeval", gebaseerd op specifieke tijdsintervallen (Venus transits en aarde transits heb ik voorbij zien komen) met daarbij Pi-bepalingen.

Vraagje daarbij: in deze hele verhandeling zie ik meerdere "tijdspaden" behandeld worden, die echter verder qua tijd geen invloed op elkaar hebben (dus "los van elkaar staan", als je me begrijpt). Hoe zit dat met "paden" (als ik ze zo even mag noemen) die wel op dezelfde tijd plaatsvinden, maar feitelijk los staan van elkaar? Hoe hou je die uit elkaar? En hoe weet je welke gebeurtenis bij welk tijdpad hoort?
Dutch.donderdag 18 maart 2010 @ 21:54
Door te observeren, niet heel even maar continue

het kostte mij meer dan een jaar om te beseffen dat 2 ogenschijnlijk aparte tijdsgecodeerde patronen in feite uiting gaven aan dezelfde onderliggende thema's en grepen uiteindelijk ook in elkaar ( "Balkan karma Venus based' en '911 Phi- based timecoded spiral in Dutch society.
Ook tussen Hariri en Sharon besef ik pas dit jaar de connectie, terwijl ik er al jaren mee bezig ben

Het is belangrijk om goed te observeren. Dat betekend niet eindeloos informatie tot je nemen, gewoon de synchroniteiten volgen als deze zich voor doen dat volgt het vanzelf
Dutch.zaterdag 20 maart 2010 @ 23:49
The HDdesign forum was down for 2 days and I need some info from it in order to explain the next 'development' that I am about to share next week.

It has everything to do with 1111 and confirmative to HDdesign in relation to the deepest essence of our existence
Dutch.maandag 22 maart 2010 @ 14:20
In order to understand the underlying Design you have to make sure that you have read what has already been posted. I won't repost it now because it will make the post too big
You can start here with this post in the 'breaking The Code' thread ( login 'reader' password 'reader'):
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?p=8969&mforum=hddesign#8969
or you can even go further back in time by clicking on the link on top of that post, it will bring you to the first related info.

What we have seen is, that NASA was 'communicating' by expressing Pi with its Deep Impact/Epoxi mission, when the mission continued after Deep Impact on comet Temple I.

This very same Pi expression showed up again with the flight 522 crash correlations as explained in previous posts and its clear to me that this Pi expresion is the major element in the 'Deep Impact' related Design of our times.

This very same Pi expression showed up again with the Rosetta spacecraft flyby of 'Steins', unveiling that Earth's orbit is encoded in Steins' orbit by this very same Pi expression.

Rosetta is confirming this Intelligent Pi based correlation between Earth and Stein's orbits right after its encounter with Steins by an Earth Flyby exactly 2 years later than the previous one, exactly the same timeframe as based on the Pi point of Steins' orbit.

As explained in previous posts, NASA started to 'communicate' this very same Pi expression with the continued Deep Impact/Epoxi mission after the impact on comet Temple I.

But was it a deliberate 'communication' or a sub-conscious one?

It could very well be that NASA found out that the Impact on comet Temple I wasn't a good idea and additional review of the Rosetta mission unveiled the hidden Design with Steins as explained here in the HDDesign material.

If that's the case, NASA copied this Pi- based Design encoded in Earth and Steins orbit into the continued Deep Impact/Epoxi spacemission, scheduling and communicating a comet encounter with Hartley II that expresses this very same Pi corralation, but that will never actually take place.

but......

Rosetta was already launched prior to Deep Impact on comet Temple I !!

and its mission was already determined, including the Earth flyby's marking this Earth-Steins Pi correlation.

So NASA already new, or NASA isn't consciously aware of this hidden Underlying Deisgn.

Deep Impact on comet Temple I is one of the major themes in HDdesign

When I first started to do this 'research' back in 2004, the first identified element of Intelligent Hyper Dimensional Design was the 1111 days awakenings timeframe.
This 1111 days awakeningstimeframe on Earth is Golden Mean Phi connected to Mars ( spiralling inwards ) and Venus ( spiralling outwards), with Mercury marking the start- and end triggerdates of an 1111 days timeframe. This way the 1111 days timeframe connects all the innerplanets in an Intelligent way.

The HDDesign material has since unveiled that the 'Tunguska' event should be considered to be a warning in relation to what we did to comet Temple I and the use of nuclear weapons, as explained in previous posts.

When I decided to give the orbit of Steins a closer look last week, it was the first time I ever did so. The hidden Intelligent correlation instantly showed up: as we have seen the orbit of Steins was linked to Earth's orbit by the very same Pi based Design as expressed with the continued Deep Impact/Epoxi spacemission.

I thought if Steins is 'Intelligent', than Temple I might be 'Intelligent' too as the impact on comet Temple I ( first temple for the esotherica) is playing such an important role in the awakenings process as unveiled in this HDDesign material

I decided to apply the very same Pi connection on the orbit of comet Temple I and the confirmation is overwhelming:

The Pi point of comet Temple I is at 1111 Earth days

We must take the 'communication' around the impact on comet Temple I very serious.

and we all have a shared responsibility in this
Handschoenmaandag 22 maart 2010 @ 16:06
Dutch, heb je een idee waar Steins nog meer aan gelinkd is? Wellicht laat het design het nog niet volledig zien, maar heb je door je ervaring een vermoeden welke kant dit op gaat?
JoepiePoepiemaandag 22 maart 2010 @ 17:45
Dutch., waarom schrijf jij soms in het Engels en soms in het Nederlands en soms zelfs die 2 talen door elkaar
Handschoenmaandag 22 maart 2010 @ 17:54
quote:
Op maandag 22 maart 2010 17:45 schreef JoepiePoepie het volgende:
Dutch., waarom schrijf jij soms in het Engels en soms in het Nederlands en soms zelfs die 2 talen door elkaar
Omdat hij normaal op zijn Engels forum post en die hierheen kopieert met NL commentaar
Dutch.vrijdag 26 maart 2010 @ 21:00
Is it perhaps possible that the visionairs and profets of ancient times 'saw' our current times and translated them into understandable language of the ancient times, so that we in fact are creating the myths of our past?

After I had discovered the 1111 days awakenings timeframe encoded with the Pi based Design in the orbit of comet Tempel 1, and its esoteric/religious implications as the First Tempel, I wanted to give it a closer look. As usual, I just followed the synchronicities when they occured and I logged it realtime on HDDesign forum in between my normal daily activities.

I took a look again at Comet Temple 1 ( First Temple).

Freed from the 3 ( or 4) dimensional boundaries of time and tuned in on our collective consciousness, this visionair of our ancient past would understand this to be a snake in the heavens.



Serpent (symbolism)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serpent_(symbolism)

As above, so below

Where there's a First Tempel, there must be a Second Tempel.....and here it is:

The Second Temple was discovered with Earth at the very same orbital position as the 'destruction' of the First Temple

July 4

10P/Tempel, also known as Tempel 2, is a periodic comet in our solar system

Discovery date: July 4, 1873

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/10P/Tempel

Last perihelion of comet Tempel 2 : February 15, 2005

ASSASSINATION OF RAFIK HARIRI

Next perihelion: July 4, 2010

EARTH'S ORBITAL POSITION OF 'DESTRUCTION' OF THE FIRST TEMPEL AND DISCOVERY OF THE SECOND TEMPEL

ofcourse July 4, 2010 has been added to the timeline of Q3 2010 for the S4econd Temple but also this date on the timeline for Q1 2011 for the First Tempel:

January 11, 2011 - Next Perihelion comet Temple 1 ( first Tempel), exactly 1 Temple 1- year in Earth days after Deep Impact.
Indeed: Deep Impact was on the last Perihelion ( closest point to the sun on the orbit of comet Tempel 1 ) on July 4, 2005

comet Tempel 1:
Last perihelion: July 5, 2005
Next perihelion: January 11, 2011

The Temple in Jerusalem or Holy Temple ( "House of the Holy"), refers to one of a series of structures located on the Temple Mount in the old city of Jerusalem. Historically, two temples stood at this location and functioned as the centre of ancient Jewish worship. According to classical Jewish belief, the Temple acted as the figurative "footstool" of God's presence and a Third Temple will be built there in the future.
http://en.wikipedia.org/w(...)t_and_Second_Temples
As above - so below.....

Take the synchronicities serious.......

Let's place the second Tempel upon the first one.....

Let's do it

As above, so below

The Second Tempel is 'build/placed upon the First Tempel'

The very same Pi based Design as shown in the previous posts is applied and the Deep Impact on July 4, 2005 is on the first Pi point.

The orbit of this 'rebuild Second Tempel' unveils the encoded 'communication'.

Start: around February 1, 2003
First Pi Point: around July 4, 2005 Deep Impact on comet Tempel I
Second Pi point: around January 17, 2006
End: around June 20, 2008

As above, so Below....

On February 1, 2003 manmade Space Shuttle Columbia disintegrates during reentry

Around January 17, 2006: NASA's Stardust mission successfully ends, the first to return dust from a comet. The sample material capsule from Stardust returned to Earth on January 15, 2006 in Utah's Great Salt Lake desert, near the U.S. Army Dugway Proving Ground. ( Dugway Proving Ground is called "Area 52" ).

The importance of this system of timelines in the HDDesign material becomes more and more clear:

June 20, 2008 was on the timeline of Q2 2008 and it was already identified as a 'Deep Impact' timeframe.

Take a look at that timeframe again:
quote:
June 20, 2008 - Mercury 'the Messenger' at same 'geometrical' position as during the awakenings endtriggerdate of 'Deep Impact'.
possibly 'exit of Sun King' theme related
Also
Mercury 'The Messenger' at same position as during the awakenings endtriggerdate of the end of the Mayan Calendar.

Meteorite could hold solar clues
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7464583.stm

Surprisingly Rapid Changes In Earth’s Core Discovered
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/06/080619102553.htm

Mars lander finds bits of ice, scientists say
http://edition.cnn.com/20(...)x.mars.ap/index.html

Proof! Water Ice Found on Mars
http://www.space.com/scie(...)enix-ice-update.html

Pentagon says its on trail of missing nuclear components
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/(...)nuclear-7e07afd.html
US taps Lithuania as alternative to Poland for missile shield plan
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/(...)ilitary-7e07afd.html
U.S. says exercise by Israel seemed directed at Iran
http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/06/20/america/20iran.php

The mystery story of the Maya slowly reveals new twists
http://www.usatoday.com/t(...)-22-maya-kiuic_N.htm

Life in Earth's toughest places; how about Mars?
http://edition.cnn.com/20(...)xtreme.ap/index.html

Ice on Mars an important breakthrough
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml?view=DETAILS&grid=&xml=/earth/2008/06/22/scinasa222.xml

since we are talking about Mars here apparently: Nagasaki & Deep Impact, uts all here:
Mars' two-faced riddle 'solved' http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7473128.stm

Mars lander finds soil 'friendly' to life
http://edition.cnn.com/20(...)x.mars.ap/index.html

Martian soil appears able to support life
http://www.reuters.com/article/scienceNews/idUSN2634952620080626
Will religion end on Mars?
http://economictimes.indi(...)icleshow/3169948.cms
Will NASA Ever Find Life on Mars?
[url=http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/080627-mars-life-question.html
]http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/080627-mars-life-question.html[/quote][/url]

Cosmic dust brought to Earth artificially......life on Mars.....Deep Impact on Comet tempel I ......deintegration of Space Shuttle Columbia....

There's a story being told here

Stardust in relation to the First and Second Tempel.....

As Above, so below......

After Stardust released its capsule with cosmic dust to Earth, its mission officially ended.

But Stardust was still in space and with Earth at the same orbital position again as during Deep Impact on the First tempel, another mission was approved for Stardust:

On July 3, 2007 a second mission for Stardust was approved to revisit the comet Tempel 1!!!!!!!!

In July 3, 2007 this extended mission was approved, under the designation of New Exploration of Tempel 1 (NExT). This investigation will provide the first look at the changes to a comet nucleus produced after its close approach to the sun. NExT also will extend the mapping of Tempel 1, making it the most mapped comet nucleus to date. This mapping will help address the major questions of comet nucleus "geology" raised by images of areas where it appears material might have flowed like a liquid or powder. NExT is scheduled to fly by Tempel 1 on February 14, 2011.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stardust_(spacecraft)

Stardus visiting the First Tempel ona February 14??

And here we see the 'confirmation' with the Second Tempel showing up.

February 14 is Earth's very same orbital position as during the Last perihelion of comet Tempel 2 : February 15, 2005 ( Hariri )

And as we've already seen: Tempel 2 with its next perihelion on July 4, 2010, on Earth's very same orbital position as during Deep Impact on Tempel 1

The hidden underlying Design should be evident to everyone
Dutch.woensdag 14 april 2010 @ 11:48
The 'Contact' theme is monitored on HDDesign forum and the related future dates are already mentioned on the timelines

updated April 14:

The concurrence of all three of these independent Mars Express experiments -- "imaging" ... "internal mass distribution" (tracking) ... and "internal radar imaging" -- ALL now agreed that "the interior of Phobos is 'partially hollow ... with internal, repeating, MAJOR geometric "voids" inside it ....'"

Meaning that--

Phobos IS "artificial!"


From the 'enterprisemission':
For the World is Hollow ... and I Have Touched the Sky!
http://www.enterprisemission.com/Phobos.html

HDDesign forum:
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/index.php?mforum=hddesign
JoepiePoepiewoensdag 14 april 2010 @ 14:53
Dutch., ik heb nou al meerdere van die posts van jou gelezen en ik wil graag weten of er ooit al zo'n 'voorspelling' uitgekomen is? En zo ja, hoe weet je dat dan? Want die teksten die je schrijft zijn zo vaag, er is niks concreets in te lezen .

Verzin je die 'voorspellingen' eigenlijk zelf of heb je ze van iemand anders?
Maurice76woensdag 14 april 2010 @ 15:37
Uit een bericht van hem op 2 maart:
quote:
It wouldn't amaze me if a >7 EQ would happen around the last orbital position of Mercury marking 'contact': May 27, 2010

followed by a big EQ in the San Andreas area around Earth's orbital position of the Grand Cross: around June 26, 2010, with a possibility on June 23 too ( Venus at same orbital position as during Robert Ecke committed suicide )
Dat zijn nogal harde voorspellingen, dus ik ben benieuwd ...
Maurice76woensdag 14 april 2010 @ 16:03
quote:
Op woensdag 14 april 2010 11:48 schreef Dutch. het volgende:
From the 'enterprisemission':
For the World is Hollow ... and I Have Touched the Sky!
http://www.enterprisemission.com/Phobos.html
Ik heb dat artikel gelezen, maar wat schrijft die man irritant zeg! De . -toets op zijn keyboard slijt denk ik het hardst.

Maar inhoudelijk wel interessant. Was er ook niet een voorspelling van Nostradamus dat we ergens rond deze tijd kunstmatige waterbekkens zouden ontdekken op Mars?
Dutch.donderdag 15 april 2010 @ 14:42
and part II:

http://www.enterprisemission.com/Phobos2.html
Maurice76donderdag 15 april 2010 @ 20:04
Lol, ik denk het nog even niet. Als ik die link klik, krijg ik dit:
quote:
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Boswachtertjedonderdag 15 april 2010 @ 20:10
Vaag.. een uurtje of wat geleden had ik em nog open..
Dutch.donderdag 15 april 2010 @ 21:12
Het is niet allen dat artikel van Richard Hoagland, het is de hele site van de Enterprisemission.com die eruit ligt. Vanmorgen was de site gewoon in de lucht, nog niet de tijd voor 'disclosure' zeker
Dutch.donderdag 15 april 2010 @ 21:16
quote:
Op woensdag 14 april 2010 14:53 schreef JoepiePoepie het volgende:
Dutch., ik heb nou al meerdere van die posts van jou gelezen en ik wil graag weten of er ooit al zo'n 'voorspelling' uitgekomen is? En zo ja, hoe weet je dat dan? Want die teksten die je schrijft zijn zo vaag, er is niks concreets in te lezen .

Verzin je die 'voorspellingen' eigenlijk zelf of heb je ze van iemand anders?
In principe gaat het niet over exacte voorspellingen maar meer over onderliggende thema's die op bepaalde tijdsgecodeerde momenten tot uitdrukking kunnen komen. Intuitie en synchroniteiten zijn leidend in de ontcijfering van de verborgen onderliggende patronen. Een aantal posts is niet voldoende om enig inzicht te verkrijgen
Boswachtertjedonderdag 15 april 2010 @ 22:12
quote:
Op donderdag 15 april 2010 21:12 schreef Dutch. het volgende:
Het is niet allen dat artikel van Richard Hoagland, het is de hele site van de Enterprisemission.com die eruit ligt. Vanmorgen was de site gewoon in de lucht, nog niet de tijd voor 'disclosure' zeker
De site is weer online.. ff Phobos lezen...
Dutch.donderdag 15 april 2010 @ 23:16
hou in je achterhoofd dat Richard een vergelijking maakt met Steins, waarvan de orbit intelligent gerelateerd is met de aarde middels Pi zoals beschreven in voorgaande berichten hier in het HDDesign materiaal.

edit: ik ga daar nog een update over schrijven, ook in relatie tot het einde van de Mayan Long Count.
Boswachtertjedonderdag 15 april 2010 @ 23:24
quote:
Op donderdag 15 april 2010 23:16 schreef Dutch. het volgende:
hou in je achterhoofd dat Richard een vergelijking maakt met Steins, waarvan de orbit intelligent gerelateerd is met de aarde middels Pi zoals beschreven in voorgaande berichten hier in het HDDesign materiaal.

edit: ik ga daar nog een update over schrijven, ook in relatie tot het einde van de Mayan Long Count.
Oke, klinkt goed. Waar kan ik wat meer vinden over het werk van Steins? Wellicht dat ik er al bekend mee ben, maar het komt me momenteel niet bekend voor..

Thnx in advance.. keep it coming

Phobos verhaal is zeker interessant! Eens kijken wat er in WFL over gezegd wordt ter vergelijking!
Handschoendonderdag 15 april 2010 @ 23:48
quote:
Op donderdag 15 april 2010 23:24 schreef Boswachtertje het volgende:

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Oke, klinkt goed. Waar kan ik wat meer vinden over het werk van Steins? Wellicht dat ik er al bekend mee ben, maar het komt me momenteel niet bekend voor..

Thnx in advance.. keep it coming

Phobos verhaal is zeker interessant! Eens kijken wat er in WFL over gezegd wordt ter vergelijking!
Steins is geen schrijver . Google het eens
Dutch.vrijdag 16 april 2010 @ 09:21
'Steins' is de asteroide die een bezoekje heeft gehad van Rosetta. Richard Hoagland maakt een vergelijking qua uiterlijk tussen Ohobos en Steins. Allebei hebben indicaties dat ze kunstmatig zijn.
In eerdere posts heb ik uitgelegd hier dat de omloopt van 'asteroide' Steins intelligent gekoppeld is aan de omloop van de aarde middels Pi, zoals uitgelegd in het HDDesign materiaal.

Ik heb hier nog meer over te zeggen, misschien later vandaag
Jumparoundvrijdag 16 april 2010 @ 09:31
ik vind het raar dat dit nu opeens uit de lucht komt vallen...
HDD draait toch om onderliggende thema's? Is er geen aanwijzing geweest dat phobos kunstmatig is?
Dutch.vrijdag 16 april 2010 @ 12:42
? de Mars flyby was vorige maand waarna de foto's zeer snel vrijgegeven zijn, waarna analisten aan de gang konden gaan.

Al sinds de ontdekking zijn Phobos en Demos discutabel en het idee dat Phobos hol zou zijn ( dus kunstmatig ) is al tientallen jaren oud ( gebaseerd op wetenschappelijk waargenomen metingen, berekeningen en afwijkeningen). Het gaat hier over een blijkbare op handen zijnde officiele 'disclosure' van wat Phobos werkelijk is, doordat er info beschikbaar komt voor iedereen.
Info die het mogelijk maakt om de kunstmatigheid van Phobos aan te tonen.

Het onderliggende 'contact' thema was al van tevoren bepaald en ook op de tijdslijnen gezet van het HDDesign material.

De ontwikkelingen rond Phobos zijn uitdrukkingen van het onerliggende 'contact' thema
Dutch.vrijdag 16 april 2010 @ 12:43
First you have to read the 'communication' posts again that I've posted on this forum or at HDDesign forum here:
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?p=9548&mforum=hddesign#9548
You can login with 'reader' password 'reader'

I have to emphasize that it is really necessary to read these posts again otherwise you will not understand the signifigance.

It should be clear to the readers that the Pi-based Design as described in relation to the Earth-Moon Transit and spacecraft Deep Impact/Epoxi around May 30, 2008 , has since unveiled some very profound revelations, like the flight 522 crash 'running on autopilot towards nuclear event' references and the Intelligent orbit of 'asteroid' Steins, as explained in previous posts.

In a sense the identification of this Pi based Design could be considered a break through in the HDDesign 'research'.

As already mentioned in previous posts, this Deep Impact/Epoxi- Earth-Moon transit has happened on the ascension starttriggerdate in relation to the end of the Mayan Long Count.

The 'Ascension timeframe' was one of the first identified elements of Intelligent hyper Dimensional Design, already 'discovered' 6 years ago back in 2004. It was the start of the still ongoing Hyper Dimensional 'research'.

With this very signifigant timeframe around May 30, 2008 as monitored events day in the middle of an Ascension timeframe, we see the end of the Mayan Long count as endtrigger date ( didn't the Mayans expect a new Sun around this date?) and its the startriggerdate that should unveil the deepest underlying themes that are part of the 'communication' that is taking place.

I talk about the starttrigger timeframe around November 4, 2003

Biggest Solar Flare ever recorded.

November 4th 2003 saw the most powerful Solar flare eruption on record. This measured a colossal X 28 on the Solar Richter scale. For those unaquainted with the magnitude of Solar Flares it may be difficult to comprehend the extreme force of such an explosion which is the largest ever recorded in the Solar System.

Although the two scales cannot be satisfactorily compared this explosion if transferred to the earthquake scale would be something like an earthquake of around 15 on the Richter scale. In other words an out of category event the like of which has never been seen or experienced.

Fortunately for our planet most of the debris from the explosion was not entirely Earth directed but a glancing blow from the flare did bring displays of the Northern Lights several days later. However this is nothing to what would have happened if the flare had been targetted directly towards Earth. What is certain is that this particular Solar explosion broke all records and is an event without precedence in living memory.

Wake up call.

If ever we needed a wake up call to our very vulnerable position in the Universe then the Sun has well and truly delivered it.

read more:
http://www.nasca.org.uk/S(...)are/solar_flare.html

We see our Sun as the heart of our 3 dimensional solar system but just like ourselves, our Sun is just the 3 dimensional representation of an infact multi-dimensional existence, at least that's what this Hyper Dimensional 'research' is trying to show to you

If such a giant solar flare will ever happen in the direction of Earth than its not happening by coincidence.......

IF such a thing would happen its because of a 'necessity' by Design.

It could only happen if we continue to endanger ( probably our very own ) existence in other Dimensional realms.

This is what is potentially out there, but its in our own hands

The message is clear

Don't mess with nuclear power and stay out of space, human consciousness must remain Earthbound.
Boswachtertjevrijdag 16 april 2010 @ 13:04
quote:
Op donderdag 15 april 2010 23:48 schreef Handschoen het volgende:
Steins is geen schrijver . Google het eens
quote:
Op vrijdag 16 april 2010 09:21 schreef Dutch. het volgende:
'Steins' is de asteroide die een bezoekje heeft gehad van Rosetta. Richard Hoagland maakt een vergelijking qua uiterlijk tussen Ohobos en Steins. Allebei hebben indicaties dat ze kunstmatig zijn.
In eerdere posts heb ik uitgelegd hier dat de omloopt van 'asteroide' Steins intelligent gekoppeld is aan de omloop van de aarde middels Pi, zoals uitgelegd in het HDDesign materiaal.

Ik heb hier nog meer over te zeggen, misschien later vandaag
Ok, thnx.. dan had ik het idd al eens gelezen Thnx voor de info
Handschoenvrijdag 16 april 2010 @ 13:32
quote:
Op vrijdag 16 april 2010 12:42 schreef Dutch. het volgende:Al sinds de ontdekking zijn Phobos en Demos discutabel en het idee dat Phobos hol zou zijn ( dus kunstmatig ) is al tientallen jaren oud ( gebaseerd op wetenschappelijk waargenomen metingen, berekeningen en afwijkeningen).
Het enigste wat ik niet echt volg is waarom een holle asteroide kunstmatig zou (moeten) zijn? Kan je dat wellicht toelichten Dutch?
Jumparoundvrijdag 16 april 2010 @ 13:59
Godsamme:
quote:
If such a giant solar flare will ever happen in the direction of Earth than its not happening by coincidence.......
Wáárom niet! En living history... wat, 150 jaar? Blink of an fucking eye in cosmische termen

Soms heb je wel goede dingen Dutch, maar dit is echt klink en klare onzin
Dutch.vrijdag 16 april 2010 @ 15:01
quote:
Op vrijdag 16 april 2010 13:32 schreef Handschoen het volgende:

[..]

Het enigste wat ik niet echt volg is waarom een holle asteroide kunstmatig zou (moeten) zijn? Kan je dat wellicht toelichten Dutch?
Phobos is een maan. Volgens de heersende wetenschappelijke verklaring kan zo'n hemellichaam niet hol zijn maar slechts uit gesteente etc. bestaan. ( zwaartekracht )
Jumparoundvrijdag 16 april 2010 @ 15:05
quote:
Op vrijdag 16 april 2010 15:01 schreef Dutch. het volgende:

[..]

Phobos is een maan. Volgens de heersende wetenschappelijke verklaring kan zo'n hemellichaam niet hol zijn maar slechts uit gesteente etc. bestaan. ( zwaartekracht )
Totdat je praat over inslagen en samensmeltingen van hemellichamen. er kan veel gebeuren met je rotsblok in 4 miljard jaar...
Dutch.vrijdag 16 april 2010 @ 15:13
quote:
Op vrijdag 16 april 2010 13:59 schreef Jumparound het volgende:
Godsamme:
[..]

Wáárom niet! En living history... wat, 150 jaar? Blink of an fucking eye in cosmische termen

Soms heb je wel goede dingen Dutch, maar dit is echt klink en klare onzin
wat bedoel je met 150 jaar? denk je niet dat onze historie verder terug gaat? Het feit dat jij bestaat betekend dat het in onze historie (nog) niet gebeurd is.

Het komt zoals het komt, deze gigantische solar flare en het einde van de Mayan Long count creeren een 'ascension timeframe' ( zoals beschreven in het HDDesign materiaal).
Dutch.vrijdag 16 april 2010 @ 15:20
quote:
Op vrijdag 16 april 2010 15:05 schreef Jumparound het volgende:

[..]

Totdat je praat over inslagen en samensmeltingen van hemellichamen. er kan veel gebeuren met je rotsblok in 4 miljard jaar...
als je denkt dat daaruit 'holle' hemellichamen kunnen onstaan, die ook nog eens een orbit hebben die dmv Pi gekoppeld is aan de omloop van de Aarde zoals Steins, dan moet je er nog maar eens over nadenken.
Jumparoundvrijdag 16 april 2010 @ 15:22
quote:
Op vrijdag 16 april 2010 15:13 schreef Dutch. het volgende:

[..]

wat bedoel je met 150 jaar? denk je niet dat onze historie verder terug gaat? Het feit dat jij bestaat betekend dat het in onze historie (nog) niet gebeurd is.

Het komt zoals het komt, deze gigantische solar flare en het einde van de Mayan Long count creeren een 'ascension timeframe' ( zoals beschreven in het HDDesign materiaal).
Oke, wie kon er tot 150 jaar geleden (of 300) een solarflare waarnemen, en wie had er tot 100 jaar geleden last van?
Wat is de impact van een massive solar flare op de aarde, op de mens niets. Door de atmosfeer en magnetisch veld zijn we goed beschermt. De enige impact is die op electronica, en die is er pas een paar jaar.
En sinds een paar jaar (sinds SOHO) kunnen we ze redelijk volgen...
We hebben niets te vrezen van de zon! behalve dan dat onze electronica naar de hel gaat... mar dat is vervangbaar...
Jumparoundvrijdag 16 april 2010 @ 15:31
quote:
Op vrijdag 16 april 2010 15:20 schreef Dutch. het volgende:

[..]

als je denkt dat daaruit 'holle' hemellichamen kunnen onstaan, die ook nog eens een orbit hebben die dmv Pi gekoppeld is aan de omloop van de Aarde zoals Steins, dan moet je er nog maar eens over nadenken.
Ik noem het een kansberekening. Neem het aantal astoiden (wat dat is phobos, toch? 15 mile ~25 km doorsnede)en laat ze miljarden jaren in random banen rondjes rond de zon draaien. Wie zegt dan dat iets niet bestaat!

Als jij dit linkt aan een CME die ongewoon krachtig is... Wat is dan de significatie van het menselijk ras?
Ik bedoel... we worden gestuurd door een ras dat
A) de kennis heeft astroiden uit te hollen, en daarin afstanden van lichtjaren af te leggen.
B) Aarlingen kan manupileren op een wijze die 99,9999% boven de pet gaat
C) Waarschuwingen kan produceren ala die meteoriet boven siberie...
D) Kennelijk CME's van ongekende grote kan opwekken.


Kennelijk kunnen ze alles al, waarom fucken met ons?
Of, om Steven Baxter aan te halen....

Zijn het mensen uit de toekomst die zien wat een pleuris zooi we gaan aanrichten in het heelal...
Handschoenvrijdag 16 april 2010 @ 16:44
quote:
Op vrijdag 16 april 2010 15:01 schreef Dutch. het volgende:

[..]

Phobos is een maan. Volgens de heersende wetenschappelijke verklaring kan zo'n hemellichaam niet hol zijn maar slechts uit gesteente etc. bestaan. ( zwaartekracht )
Zo ver ik weet komt dat hij zo klein is doordat het niet als onze maan is, maar meer een 'gecapturede' asteroid. Dat daar holtes in voorkomen vind ik namelijk niet zo vreemd
Dutch.vrijdag 16 april 2010 @ 21:18
quote:
Op vrijdag 16 april 2010 16:44 schreef Handschoen het volgende:

[..]

Zo ver ik weet komt dat hij zo klein is doordat het niet als onze maan is, maar meer een 'gecapturede' asteroid. Dat daar holtes in voorkomen vind ik namelijk niet zo vreemd
Maar heb je nou het artikel gelezen dat gedaseerd is op de vrijgegeven data van ESA's Mars express flyby?
Geometrische structuren, radar reflectie die interne ruimtes veronderstellen, het nog steeds 'lekken' , de vorm, de extreem lage omloop etc. Lees het artikel nou eens goed door.
Vind je het niet vreemd dat juist die hemellichamen die wij met een bezoek vereren zulke uitzonderlijke kenmerken vertonen zoals Steins ( Rosetta ) en Phobos ( binnenkort de Russen )?
Dutch.vrijdag 16 april 2010 @ 21:27
quote:
Op vrijdag 16 april 2010 15:22 schreef Jumparound het volgende:

[..]

Oke, wie kon er tot 150 jaar geleden (of 300) een solarflare waarnemen, en wie had er tot 100 jaar geleden last van?
Wat is de impact van een massive solar flare op de aarde, op de mens niets. Door de atmosfeer en magnetisch veld zijn we goed beschermt. De enige impact is die op electronica, en die is er pas een paar jaar.
En sinds een paar jaar (sinds SOHO) kunnen we ze redelijk volgen...
We hebben niets te vrezen van de zon! behalve dan dat onze electronica naar de hel gaat... mar dat is vervangbaar...
De solar flare van 4 november 2003 is later in 2004 nog opgewaardeerd tot een X45 ipv X28, zie BBC science:
Sun's massive explosion upgraded
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3515788.stm


Waar het hier om gaat is de timing van deze solar flare, als starttrigger op het 'ascension timeframe' met het einde van de Mayan kalender, met die Pi onthulling zoals uitgelegd. Dit is inter-dimensionele communicatie, althans voor diegenen die het willen verstaan.
Handschoenvrijdag 16 april 2010 @ 22:06
quote:
Op vrijdag 16 april 2010 21:18 schreef Dutch. het volgende:

[..]

Maar heb je nou het artikel gelezen dat gedaseerd is op de vrijgegeven data van ESA's Mars express flyby?
Geometrische structuren, radar reflectie die interne ruimtes veronderstellen, het nog steeds 'lekken' , de vorm, de extreem lage omloop etc. Lees het artikel nou eens goed door.
Vind je het niet vreemd dat juist die hemellichamen die wij met een bezoek vereren zulke uitzonderlijke kenmerken vertonen zoals Steins ( Rosetta ) en Phobos ( binnenkort de Russen )?
Heb het zeker gelezen, en er zitten inderdaad typische en interessante zaken tussen .
Maurice76zondag 18 april 2010 @ 12:15
quote:
Op vrijdag 16 april 2010 21:18 schreef Dutch. het volgende:Vind je het niet vreemd dat juist die hemellichamen die wij met een bezoek vereren zulke uitzonderlijke kenmerken vertonen zoals Steins ( Rosetta ) en Phobos ( binnenkort de Russen )?
Eigenlijk niet, want de "13-in-een-dozijn" objecten zijn namelijk niet interessant. Afwijkende daarentegen wel.
Dutch.donderdag 22 april 2010 @ 22:09
2 afwijkende toevallig binnen bereik t.o.v de ontelbare 'niet intelligente' objecten in het universum?

bedoel je dat?
Jumparoundvrijdag 23 april 2010 @ 08:45
Nee, denk kleiner dutch, 2 binnen het bereik t.o.v. ontelbare objecten ook binnen bereik...
Of wil je zeggen dat ze convenient binnen 1 dagje reizen van de aarde liggen?
Maurice76vrijdag 23 april 2010 @ 09:25
Wat Jumparound zegt in zijn eerste zin.
Dutch.vrijdag 23 april 2010 @ 23:17
Ontelbare objecten binnen bereik?

Maan, Tempel 1, Steins, Mars, Phobos, Saturn and its moons, Venus, en nog wel een paar binnen bereik.

Wat bedoel je met ontelbaar binnen bereik?
Maurice76zondag 25 april 2010 @ 12:02
De Kuyper belt bijvoorbeeld.
Tickerzondag 25 april 2010 @ 17:14
quote:
Op zondag 25 april 2010 12:02 schreef Maurice76 het volgende:
De Kuyper belt bijvoorbeeld.
* Ticker mompelt iets over hemellichamen.
Dutch.zondag 25 april 2010 @ 21:38
updated Pi point 'Steins'

I wrote:
quote:
Could be that somekind of confirmation will show up about 'artificially', as it is Pi point in 'Steins'orbit ( intelligently linked to Earth's orbit by Pi)

I don't no WHAT to expect, but the timing is right

Stephen Hawking warns over making contact with aliens
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8642558.stm
Maurice76maandag 26 april 2010 @ 01:12
quote:
Op zondag 25 april 2010 17:14 schreef Ticker het volgende:

[..]

* Ticker mompelt iets over hemellichamen.
Ik begrijp je opmerking niet helemaal ... ben je nou in support van wat ik zeg, of juist ertegen?

Feit is dat er genoeg grote objecten in die riem rondzwerven, die Pluto-niaanse afmetingen hebben (en dus vele ook kleiner) en de afstand van die riem is ook bijzonder klein te noemen op galactische schalen.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuiper_belt
quote:
Since the Kuiper belt was discovered in 1992, the number of known Kuiper belt objects (KBOs) has increased to over a thousand, and more than 70,000 KBOs over 100 km (62 mi) in diameter are believed to exist.
Dutch.maandag 26 april 2010 @ 21:14
quote:
Op zondag 25 april 2010 12:02 schreef Maurice76 het volgende:
De Kuyper belt bijvoorbeeld.
en hoeveel daarvan geven de indruk kunstmatig te zijn?
Maurice76dinsdag 27 april 2010 @ 00:15
quote:
Op maandag 26 april 2010 21:14 schreef Dutch. het volgende:
en hoeveel daarvan geven de indruk kunstmatig te zijn?
Weet ik veel, ik heb ze nog niet allemaal bekeken

Maar effe zonder dollen, dat was toch juist het hele punt van de discussie? Als je al die objecten meerekent, heb je enorm veel objecten van enig formaat die op de een of andere manier rondjes draaien rond onze centrale ster (direct dan wel indirect, dwz om een ander object dat wel om de zon draait). Nu blijken er een paar (twee?) rare fratsen te vertonen ten opzichte van de rest van het zwikkie ... en vervolgens vraag jij of het niet raar is dat we precies die twee nader observeren?

Neuh, vind ik dus niet, omdat de interessante objecten namelijk de objecten zijn waarvan je er niet 13 in een dozijn hebt - en die dus juist nader gaat observeren.
Dutch.dinsdag 27 april 2010 @ 22:01
Je zegt het nou toch zelf? van al die ontelbare objecten vertonen juist deze paar binnen ons bereik een kunstmatige herkomst. Deze worden ook echt door ons met een bezoek vereerd. Als dat normaal zou zijn dan zou statistisch gezien het heelal overbevolkt moeten zijn met 'afwijkende'objecten. Sterker nog: objecten als Steins en Phobos zouden eerder de norm moeten zijn
Jumparoundwoensdag 28 april 2010 @ 09:39
quote:
Op dinsdag 27 april 2010 22:01 schreef Dutch. het volgende:
Je zegt het nou toch zelf? van al die ontelbare objecten vertonen juist deze paar binnen ons bereik een kunstmatige herkomst. Deze worden ook echt door ons met een bezoek vereerd. Als dat normaal zou zijn dan zou statistisch gezien het heelal overbevolkt moeten zijn met 'afwijkende'objecten. Sterker nog: objecten als Steins en Phobos zouden eerder de norm moeten zijn
"vermeende kunstmatige herkomst"
Klinkt flauw, maar we weten geen fuck van wat er zich buiten onze dampkring afspeelt. Veel verder dan onduidelijke snapshots komen we niet en hoeveel planetoieden hebben we al met radar kunnen onderzoeken? 3? 4? Kortom, er is geen referentie data...
Kortom, laat ze eerst maar onomstotelijk bewijzen dat het om kunstmatige objecten gaat, want die foto's met "OMG, this is the hull plating" vond ik maar bedroevend
Maurice76woensdag 28 april 2010 @ 11:33
Volgens mij missen we het punt van de huidige discussie een beetje .

Jij vroeg enkele posts hierboven, "is het niet raar dat we precies die twee objecten nader onderzoeken?"

Waarop ik aangaf, dat het me niet verbaast dat men onderzoek doet naar objecten die zich anders gedragen dan de 13-in-een-dozijn objecten die we kennen in ons eigen zonnestelstel (o.a. de Kuiper Belt) - dit zijn objecten waarvan ik ze "binnen ons bereik" beschouw, overigens; mogelijk zit daar wat verwarring in?

Maar misschien is het ook de volgordelijkheid waarover we verschillen van aanname? Ik bedoel daarmee dat jij er vanuit gaat dat men deze objecten nader gaat onderzoeken en dat daarna pas bekend werd dat ze zich raar gedragen, terwijl ik er vanuit ga dat men al gezien heeft dat deze twee zich raar gedragen en ze daarom nader worden onderzocht.
Dutch.dinsdag 4 mei 2010 @ 22:32
put on the timeline on March 4:

May 5, 2010 - Venus Transit timeframe of 13 Venus Years after the assassination of 'would have been Prime Minister of The Netherlands' Pim Fortuyn a few weeks prior to the elections..... SREBRENICA KARMA.....
Liberation Day (The Netherlands)
In the Netherlands, Liberation Day (Dutch: Bevrijdingsdag) is celebrated each year on 5 May, to mark the end of the occupation by Nazi Germany during World War II.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberation_Day_(The_Netherlands)
Geert Wilders beware

Tuesday, 4 May 2010
Panic at Amsterdam war remembrance, Amsterdam 2010

Panic tonight at the Amsterdam Dam during the 2 minute war remembrance, a scream and a shot or loud crack can be clearly heard just before the panic. Apparently someone became and ill and caused panic among a certain section, the Queen and Royal Family can be seen ushered to safety!
http://gazbom.blogspot.co(...)war-remembrance.html

According to Prime Minister Balkenende it was a deliberate action, the suspect had a suitcase and caused panic. The crowds started walking so about 30 people were injured.
Dutch.dinsdag 4 mei 2010 @ 23:35
I was watching the war remembrance on tv this evening with my wife and oldest daughter when the 2 minutes of silence were suddenly disrupted by this incident. It was not exactly clear what has happened but when the crowds started to move and scream during this 2 minutes of silence it really was a shock for those present at the scene and to the people who were watching it live on tv. My wife was in shock and started crying and paniced because she didn't knew what was actually happening ( earlier my wife had seen live on tv the plane hitting the second tower on 9/11 and also the assault during Queensday 2009).

Psychologically, this incident has had a huge impact an alot of people.

I expected somekind of event around May 5 that would express the underlying theme 'Srebrenica Karma'.



One of the injured is taken away



The green baret on the left is Marco Kroon, one of the highest decorated soldiers in The Netherlands:



Dutch Captain decorated with help of Night Vision Technology
It has been announced today that Captain Marco Kroon shall receive the "Willems Orde for Courage, Tact and Fidelity" which is the highest Dutch Military Decoration for his achievements in Uruzgan (Afghanistan). It has been over 50 years since this special decoration has been last awarded by her Majesty the Queen of the Netherlands.

According to Marco Kroon he could not have fulfilled his mission without the help of his Night Vision equipment. He described one of his missions in the Baluchi-Valley in the TV program 'de wereld draait door' of 12 February.

Quotes from Captain Marco Kroon:

"so we could see them coming"

"we had a clear advantage with the technique that we have today with our Night Vision equipment"

"yes, that has been our luck"


"We clearly could see that the enemy was the enemy and not innocent civilians because we clearly can identify the enemy with our mono's"
http://www.photonis.com/h(...)help_of_night_vision

But its a high profile controverse in The Netherlands, these kind of stories have emerged about the Dutch Hero ( remeber, we still talk about Srebrenica Karma here)

Afghan war hero questioned by police as a suspect in a drugs case
A Dutch army captain who last year received the highest military decoration, for bravery shown in Afghanistan, has been questioned by police as a suspect in a drugs case.

The defence ministry has confirmed media reports that former Captain Marco Kroon is suspected of drugs possession and violating the gun law. The police investigation is focusing on a cafe the former soldier is running in the town of 's-Hertogenbosch. Mr Kroon's partner has also been questioned. In December, police arrested four people involved in the same case and seized weapons during a number of house searches.

Last year Queen Beatrix made platoon commander Kroon a Knight of the Military William Order, the country's highest military honour. It was the first time in 50 years the honour had been awarded to an individual.

The defence ministry has expressed shock but stresses that Captain Kroon showed exceptional bravery during commando actions in the Afghan province of Uruzgan.

Source: http://www.rnw.nl/english/article/af...ved-drugs-case

the ceremony continued after the incident. Marco Kroon shows up on the pictures on mainstream news sources like nu.nl ( picture in previous post and Telegraaf:



Green baret Marco Kroon in the middle

source:
http://www.telegraaf.nl/b(...)ewonden__.html?p=2,1
Dutch.vrijdag 7 mei 2010 @ 13:25
I wrote on October 22, 2008:

"When Pim fortuyn was assassinated, it was a high profile event. He could have been the next Prime Minister of the Netherlands if he wasn't assassinated just prior to the elections in The Netherlands back in 2002.

I was not aware of any underlying patterns at that time. That changed when Theo van Gogh was killed 911 days later on November 2, 2004.

These two people had alot in common, representatives of 'ultimate freedom', Theo with his freedom of speech and Pim with his remarkable political point of view. However, both were also much 'involved' in ethic and even racial 'issues' , bringing the differences and problem between the native Dutch people and foreigners/muslims to the attention.

I started to monitor the Phi based spiral of which these 2 assassinations could be considered to be 'expressions', unaware of the deeper meaning in the beginning.

Seperate from this Phi based spiral I have been monitoring a timecoded pattern that came to be known as the 'Balkan karma Venus Based' pattern, originally linked to the Srebrenica Massacre back in July 1995.

Continued monitoring of these initially seperated patterns increased my understanding of the hidden underlying themes that were expressed on these patterns and it became clear , at least to me, that both these pattern were 'karmic' related to the Srebrenica massacre and all its implications.

The people in Srebrenica were protected by Dutch soldiers in an UN safe haven. We prommissed these people to protect them. We told these people to come to Srebrenica because it would be safe. The United Nations would make sure that these people would be safe.

When the Serbs started to attack the enclave, it was decided that the Dutch soldiers would not protect these people at all costs, in a sense when it became clear that it would take Dutch casualties, the Ducth soldiers surrended to Mladic.

The Dutch military stated that it became impossible to protect Srebrenica after air support was refused. Several request for air support in order to take out Serbian tanks were declined.

As a result, the man and boys in Srebrenica were seperated from their wives and daughters and were shot to death with a few in a row at the time, until more than 8000 muslim boys and men were slaughtered.

This all happened under the formal protection of the United Nations.

It was the worst crime against humanity and the biggest massacre in Europe since WW II and it was allowed to happen despite the fact that we free people as representatives of the UN should have done everything to protect these people.

We all have a responsibility in relations to this, although most will deny it.

I began to understand that this responsibilty was finding expression on these determined timeframes on this Phi based spiral in Dutch society, of which the asassinations of Pim and Theo were part of.

It must be clear that it was not The Netherlands that refused the air support, the patterns unveiled, at least to me, that the US government was in fact responsible. ( edit today May 7 by Dutch: and Chiraq / France, see thread)

During the predetermined timeframes on these patterns several events materialized that are in fact unveiling the hidden underlying truth about the responsibilities for the Srebrenica massacre.

Milosevic was taken out by Design, Tolimir arrested, The Dutch gouvernment fell and sued, Dutch soldiers were killed by friendly fire, Obama security issues and lots of more, logged 'realtime' in the 2 thread specifically dedicated to these 2 patterns.

You cannot understand this if you don't try to see the bigger picture of the events that took place during the predetermined dates of these patterns.

The next dates are given, I expect expressions that will make clear the we trully are responsible for what has happened in Srebrenica in July 1995.
quote:
As said numerous times before:

This 911 Golden Mean based timecoded spiral in Dutch society is in fact linked to 'Srebrenica Karma'

I have been identifying and monitoring it here, during the last couple of years:

911 based Phi spiral in Dutch society
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about87-hddesign.html
Balkan Karma Venus based
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about4-hddesign.html

First identified event on this timecoded spiral was the assassination of Pim Fortuyn and this HDDesign 'research' shows that this was in fact a karmic expression related to the Srebrenica massacre.

Venus based indeed:

Srebrenica July 11, 1995 - September 1, 2009 = timeframe of 5.167 days

or Venus at the same orbital position

5.167 / 224.68 ( Venus year in Earth days ) = 23

This development emerges, true or not, its hitting the timecoded pattern:

Pim Fortuyn was killed by a second shooter!

Actrice Ine Veen has written a book based on a scret report ( that's what she claims ) in which she stated that indeed Volkert van de Graaf did shoot 3 bullets at Pim Fortuyn ( 2 in his back, one in his neck), but that Pim Fortuyn was already killed by 2 bullets in his head fired by a second shooter from on top a nearby building.

The Dutch secret service AIVD would know about these 2 kinds of ammunition. The book is called "killed by the Crown".
[url=http://www.crimesite.nl/liquidaties/moord/pim-fortuyn-werd-door-tweede-schutter-vermoord-volkert-van-der-graaf.html
]http://www.crimesite.nl/liquidaties/moord/pim-fortuyn-werd-door-tweede-schutter-vermoord-volkert-van-der-graaf.html[/quote][/url]

I have written about the correlation between the assassination of Pim Fortuyn and the JSF striker fighter.
Prior to the elections in The Netherlands back in 2002, in became clear that Pim Fortuyn would probably win these elections so he could even become the next Prime Minister of The Netherlands.

During the weeks prior to the assassination Pim changed his mind about the JSF. First he supported the JSF but a few weeks prior to the election he said that Netherlands shouldn't buy the JSF. He became an opponent of the JSF. ( edit today May 7: the documentary stated that Pim changed his mind in favour of the JSF on the day he was assassinated, after a some people had visited him to talk about the JSF. a radio interview fragment is confirming this although the timing remains unclear to me).

Pim was assassinated just prior to the elections and his pary won indeed.

His successor Mat Herben didn't became PM but he was involved forming the next gouvernment of the Netherlands. Mat Herrben's first political action was to give his approval to the JSF, exactly the opposite of how Pim would have wanted it.

Its amazing that this has happened while nobody seems to care less.

As this HDDesign 'research' has shown repeatedly, the JSF issue regularly shows up on the patterns related to Pim Fortuyn."

==end of quote from October 22, 2008 ===

On March 4, 2010 I have added to the timeline:
quote:
May 5, 2010 - Venus Transit timeframe of 13 Venus Years after the assassination of 'would have been Prime Minister of The Netherlands' Pim Fortuyn a few weeks prior to the elections..... SREBRENICA KARMA.....
Liberation Day (The Netherlands)
In the Netherlands, Liberation Day (Dutch: Bevrijdingsdag) is celebrated each year on 5 May, to mark the end of the occupation by Nazi Germany during World War II.
[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberation_Day_(The_Netherlands)
]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberation_Day_(The_Netherlands)[/quote][/url]

So around May 5, 2010 its 8 Earth years or 13 Venus years in Earth days ( or the similar timeframe between the 2 Venus Transits of our times ) after the assassination of Pim Fortuyn.
I expected an 'expression' in relation to 'Srebrenica Karma' and/or the 911 based Golden Mean spiral Fortuyn-van Gogh and as I have already posted a few days ago its the panic in Amsterdam during the WWII remembrance expressing this underlying themem followed by an event directly related to 'Srebrenica'.

From the timeline:

Panic tonight at the Amsterdam Dam during the 2 minute war remembrance, a scream and a shot or loud crack can be clearly heard just before the panic. Apparently someone became and ill and caused panic among a certain section, the Queen and Royal Family can be seen ushered to safety!
http://gazbom.blogspot.co(...)war-remembrance.html
Dutch queen in security scare at war memorial
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/(...)urbance-bd5ae06.html

and

Bosnian Serb cleared of genocide
A Bosnian appeals court has acquitted a former wartime commander who was sentenced to 40 years for involvement in the Srebrenica genocide.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8663764.stm

On the evening of May 5, 2010 a documentary was aired in The Netherlands at primetime about the assassination of Pim Fortuyn, exactly during the anticipated timeframe.
All issues that were already mentioned here in this HDDesign material were also present in this documentary: the killing of Chris van der Weerden, the second shooter on top of the building, 2 different kinds of ammo ( both 9 mm, but at least 1 bullit couldn't be linked to Volkert's handgun), the similarities with JFK, the JSF and the fact that Pim Fortuyn changed his mind about the JSF, the political and military elite, the dubious Mat Herben who suddenly shows up and even replaces Pim Fortuyn after he's assassinated etc.

This whole sitiution stinks.......

Today Mat Herben is reacting with the announcement that he's going to sue BNN, the channel that broadcasted the documentary on May 5:
Herben klaagt BNN aan
http://www.telegraaf.nl/b(...)NN_aan__.html?p=19,2

The truth will come out, sooner or later

It would be a very big step forwards if people with knowledge about 'Srebrenica' or the assassination of Pim fortuyn will take their responsibilities. Stand up and speak.

If I'm not mistaken there are even people who could shine a light on both 'Srebrenica' and 'Pim Fortuyn'.
sir_Tachyonvrijdag 7 mei 2010 @ 14:18
@Dutch, mooie post. Ik kan goed voorstellen dat deze gebeurtenissen met elkaar verbonden zijn, het zijn zekere belangrijke momenten in de NLse geschiedenis. Heb je wel eens over nagedacht wat de toedracht en uitkomst van deze keten van momenten zijn? Ik kan mij voorstellen dat we aan het eind dit soort geheime operaties en doofpot-situatie zat zijn en we de politiek eens op zijn kop zetten.
Dutch.vrijdag 7 mei 2010 @ 21:42
Misschien 'verdienen' wij met zijn allen die vrijheid niet. 'Srebrenica' is onze collectieve verantwoordelijkheid en omdat wij collectief falen, vinden deze negatieve ontwikkelingen zijn weg in onze realiteit. Pim Fortuyn, Thei van Gogh , Hirshi Ali, maar ook Wilders, de aanslag op 30 april 2009 en ook de subtiele verstoring van de dodenherdenking, soldaten die omkomen door 'vriendelijk'vuur etc.

Wordt het niet eens tijd dat wij onze verantwoordelijkheid nemen? Natuurlijk, wij zijn niet verantwoordelijk voor de weigering van de luchtsteun ten tijde van het beleg van Srebrenica ( US/Frankrijk) maar wij hebben het leven van 'onze jongens' wel boven het lot van duizenden moslim mannen en jongens gesteld.

Toen de weduwen en moeders van Srebrenica in 2007 naar Den Haag marcheerden hadden wij onze schuld moeten erkennen. Degenen die politiek verantwoordelijk waren voor de beslissingen die genomen zijn moeten opnieuw verantwoordelijkheid nemen. Luister je Wim? of denk je dat het allemaal vanzelf overwaait en dat het ophoudt als je dood gaat? HDDesign is sterker dan iedere leugen.

Rond 30 juni - 1 juli dit jaar is de volgende Venus positie die eerder de dood van Milosevic bracht, Tolimir ( 3e in rang) werd gearresteerd, bovengenoemde weduwen marcheerden naar Den Haag, de Nederlandse regering werd aangeklaagt, Nederlandse soldaten sneuvelden door eigen kogels, een stuk of 7 'security issues' voor Obama etc. Lees de thread er maar op na.

Mladic is nog steeds vrij, waarschijnlijk vanwege gesloten deals. Deze hele situatie zal zijn weerslag op onze samenleving blijven houden en het zal steeds duidelijker worden waar de verantwoordelijkheden liggen. Er zijn mensen die het verschil kunnen maken, dat kunnen ze beter doen nu ze de kans nog hebben
Dutch.vrijdag 28 mei 2010 @ 09:06
quote:
Op woensdag 14 april 2010 15:37 schreef Maurice76 het volgende:
Uit een bericht van hem op 2 maart:
[..It wouldn't amaze me if a >7 EQ would happen around the last orbital position of Mercury marking 'contact': May 27, 2010

]

Dat zijn nogal harde voorspellingen, dus ik ben benieuwd ...
It wouldn't amaze me if a >7 EQ would happen around the last orbital position of Mercury marking 'contact'


and exactly as predicted:

[size=18]An earthquake with a 7.5 magnitude has struck the South Pacific Island of Vanuatu[/size]
The quake hit at approximately 01:14 PM, EDT, and had a depth of 22.4 miles.
Tsunami warnings have been issued for nearby coasts.

The powerful Vanuata quake was centered about 133 miles N-NW of Santo, Vanuatu.
The depth of 22.4 miles is considered shallow by the USGS.

An earthquake of this size has the potential to generate a destructive tsunami that can strike coastlines in the region near the epicenter within minutes to hours.
www.usgs.gov

er volgt nog meer later
Jumparoundvrijdag 28 mei 2010 @ 09:24
freaky
sir_Tachyonvrijdag 28 mei 2010 @ 09:27
Kijk nu wordt het leuk, niet dat ik echt op aardbevingen of andere voorspellingen zit te wachten maar het wordt nu wat behapbaarder. Ik ga er even vanuit dat we niet dagelijks aardbevingen van 7.5 hebben in dat gebied. En ook niet soortgelijke of grotere aardbevingen in de dagen ervoor en erna.
UncleScorpvrijdag 28 mei 2010 @ 09:49
quote:
Op vrijdag 28 mei 2010 09:06 schreef Dutch. het volgende:
It wouldn't amaze me if a >7 EQ would happen around the last orbital position of Mercury marking 'contact'
Ik blijf gefascineerd door het laatste deeltje

Goro doelde meer op 26mei en iets met de return of spaceshuttle Atlantis of een aardbeving, maar Dutch zat er closer op
Jumparoundvrijdag 28 mei 2010 @ 09:50
quote:
Op vrijdag 28 mei 2010 09:27 schreef sir_Tachyon het volgende:
Kijk nu wordt het leuk, niet dat ik echt op aardbevingen of andere voorspellingen zit te wachten maar het wordt nu wat behapbaarder. Ik ga er even vanuit dat we niet dagelijks aardbevingen van 7.5 hebben in dat gebied. En ook niet soortgelijke of grotere aardbevingen in de dagen ervoor en erna.
Nah, het is wel bovenop een breuklijn


en dit zijn de zware bevingen van 2010
quote:
Magnitude 7.2 VANUATU May 27, 2010
Magnitude 5.8 PUERTO RICO May 16, 2010
Magnitude 7.2 NORTHERN SUMATRA, INDONESIA May 09, 2010
Magnitude 6.5 SOUTHEAST OF TAIWAN April 26, 2010
Magnitude 4.9 UTAH April 15, 2010
Magnitude 6.9 SOUTHERN QINGHAI, CHINA April 13, 2010
Magnitude 6.3 SPAIN April 11, 2010
Magnitude 6.8 SOLOMON ISLANDS April 11, 2010
Magnitude 7.8 NORTHERN SUMATRA, INDONESIA April 06, 2010
Magnitude 7.2 BAJA CALIFORNIA, MEXICO April 04, 2010
Magnitude 4.4 GREATER LOS ANGELES AREA, CALIFORNIA March 16, 2010
Magnitude 6.7 OFFSHORE BIO-BIO, CHILE March 16, 2010
Magnitude 6.5 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN March 14, 2010
Magnitude 6.9 LIBERTADOR O HIGGINS, CHILE March 11, 2010
Magnitude 6.1 EASTERN TURKEY March 08, 2010
Magnitude 6.8 SOUTHERN SUMATRA, INDONESIA March 05, 2010
Magnitude 6.6 OFFSHORE BIO-BIO, CHILE March 05, 2010
Magnitude 8.8 OFFSHORE MAULE, CHILE February 27, 2010
Magnitude 7.0 RYUKYU ISLANDS, JAPAN February 26, 2010
Magnitude 6.9 CHINA-RUSSIA-NORTH KOREA BORDER REGION February 18, 2010
Magnitude 3.8 ILLINOIS February 10, 2010
Magnitude 5.9 OFFSHORE NORTHERN CALIFORNIA February 04, 2010
Magnitude 6.2 BOUGAINVILLE REGION, PAPUA NEW GUINEA February 01, 2010
Magnitude 5.9 HAITI REGION January 20, 2010
Magnitude 4.0 OKLAHOMA January 15, 2010
Magnitude 7.0 HAITI REGION January 12, 2010
Magnitude 6.5 OFFSHORE NORTHERN CALIFORNIA January 10, 2010
Magnitude 4.1 SAN FRANCISCO BAY AREA, CALIFORNIA January 07, 2010
Magnitude 6.8 SOLOMON ISLANDS January 05, 2010
Magnitude 7.1 SOLOMON ISLANDS January 03, 2010
Magnitude 6.6 SOLOMON ISLANDS January 03, 2010
Jumparoundvrijdag 28 mei 2010 @ 09:53
Oh, en het is niet ver van de Solomon Eilanden (waar het ook al aardig rommelt afgelopen jaar)
Dutch.vrijdag 28 mei 2010 @ 10:41
Well,

I have put 2 completely different and in my perspective very signifigant underlying themes on the timeline for around May 25-27, 2010, both finding expression as expected.

The confirmation is 'in the face':
quote:
On January 21, 2010 I have posted on the timeline with this post here:
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?p=9506&mforum=hddesign#9506

[quote][quote][quote]the markers are set.

October 9, 2006

May 25, 2009

I expected a correlation with July 15, 2007 (+/- 1 day ), the pre-determined and expected 'Hirhoshima-Nagasaki Echo' timeframe.

As I posted years before 2007: July 12 and 15, 2007 ( +/- 1 day) were determined directly from Hirhoshima on August 6, 1945 and Nagasaki on August 9, 1945. Expressing the difference between the theoretical Hyper Dimensional Design of the precession cycle and our perception of time.
I determined this difference in a duration in Earth days that placed this expected Hirhoshima-Nagasaki echo in the timeframe around July 12-15, 2007 ( +/- 1 day).

When that day came ( July 16, 2007 ) a strong Earthquake struck Japan, coinciding with a powerfull Typhon, causing the worlds biggest nuclear plant to leak.

I wrote:
“How would you express a Hirhoshima - Nagasaki echo without dropping another fat boy on Japan?

powerful typhoon, strong earthquake, nuclear leak”.

I decided to calculate the timeframes between these 2 Korean nuclear tests and this Nagasaki echo on July 15, 2007 ( +/- 1 day):

October 9, 2006 – July 16, 2007 = 280 days

July 15, 2007 – May 25, 2009 = 680 days

I expected that these timeframes would unveil the hidden underlying Design of these nuclear tests. July 15-16, 2007 isn’t a phi point between these 2 Korean nuclear test but if you look at these timeframes 280 and 680 they seem to pinpoint at 480. That was the first thought after I noticed it wasn’t a Phi point.

I checked it and it appeared that day 480 is exactly the midpoint between these 2 Korean nuclear tests, corresponding with the timeframe around January 31, 2008.

Earlier we have seen the correlations between the Tunguska event and the use of nuclear weapons ( Hiroshima – Nagasaki ) as explained in previous posts.
The timeframe around January 31, 2008 was already on the timeline of Q1 2008 and the events that were monitored are ‘in the face’:

From the timeline Q1 2008, 2 ‘Tunguska’ events around that timeframe :

Near-Earth Asteroid 2007 TU24 To Pass Close To Past Earth On Jan 29
http://www.spacedaily.com(...)h_On_Jan_29_999.html

and

Space Rock Misses Mars, Barely ( January 30, 2008 )
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/080130-mars-miss.html

I noticed these correlations yesterday May 28, 2009 and the ‘Tunguska’ confirmation popped up by synchronicity:

RUSSIAN SCIENTIST: UFO CRASHED INTO METEORITE TO SAVE EARTH

Did a UFO deliberately crash into a meteor to save Earth 100 years ago? That's what one Russian scientist is claiming.
Dr. Yuri Labvin, president of the Tunguska Spatial Phenomenon Foundation, insists that an alien spacecraft sacrificed itself to prevent a gigantic meteor from slamming into the planet above Siberia on June 30, 1908.
The result was was the Tunguska event, a massive blast estimated at 15 megatons that downed 80 million trees over nearly 100 square miles. Eyewitnesses reported a bright light and a huge shock wave, but the area was so sparsely populated no one was killed.
Most scientists think the blast was caused by a meteorite exploding several miles above the surface. But Labvin thinks quartz slabs with strange markings found at the site are remnants of an alien control panel, which fell to the ground after the UFO slammed into the giant rock.
"We don't have any technologies that can print such kind of drawings on crystals," Labvin told the Macedonian International News Agency. "We also found ferrum silicate that can not be produced anywhere, except in space."
http://www.foxnews.com/st(...)html?test=latestnews

I posted the collapse of the ‘Tacoma Narrows Bridge’ on the timeline for around May 28, 2009 because it marks the timeframe between the collapse and the opening of this bridge, which was on the timeline for the period around January 20-21, 2009.

From the timeline Q1 2009:
quote:
January 20-21, 2009 - Inauguration Barack Obama.Flight 522 crash ('running on auto pilot towards nuclear event'): 1666 Ascension starttrigger day555 starttrigger on a 1111 days awakeningstimeframe around January 20, 2009 is July 16, 2007: Nagasaki 'echo'
[quote] For last year on July 12 or 15 (+/- 1 day ), 2007 I had determined a direct echo for Hirhoshima - Nagasaki, already posted in this HDDesign material years ago, years prior to the timeframe. This echo was based on the theoretical long term cycle based on the 911/Tetrahedron Design, causing a 'difference' between our 'actual' percecption of time and based on the elements as described in the 'breaking the code' thread. This is not a running pattern with several recurring keydates, its a direct link between for instance Nagasaki on August 9, 1945 and July 15, 2007 (+/- 1day), based on the precession cycle as described in this HDDesign. When that day came, a strong Earthquake struck Japan, coinciding with a powerful typhon, causing the worlds biggest nuclear plant to leak. There's no better way to express this Nagasaki echo without throwing another fatman on Japan.
on the Awakeningstriggers: 'Opening of The Tacoma Narrows Bridge[/quote]

So the new Tacoma Narrows Bridge opened during the Nagasaki echo timeframe around July 15, 2007
quote:
The new bridge opened July 15, 2007.
Tacoma Narrows Bridge
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacoma_Narrows_Bridge

So now we are arrived in the midst of this Korean Nuclear crisis, coinciding qua timing with the collapse of the Narrows bridge which stand for a turning point in Baracks Presidency. This IS a test for the Obama administration.

We should take notice of Tunguska’s ‘warning’.

It is possible to ‘create’ our reality more subtle. What is potentially there, doen’t have to materialize at full force. But what is a subtle expression when we have to deal with this Hiroshima – Nagasaki karma?
Maybe the ‘collapse’ of the Obama administration is to be considered a subtle expression of the underlying karmic themes we HAVE to deal with, who knows. A nuclear conflict certainly isn’t.
We ALL have a responsibility in this because the greater the awareness, the more subtle reality becomes.[/quote]

Today I had to think about these 2 Korean nuclear tests again which I consider to be markers as I have already posted.

I decided to determine Phi point in between these 2 test and it appeared to be Earth's same orbital position as during the latter Korean test on May 25, 2009:

First Korean nuclear test on October 9, 2006 - Phi point around May 25, 2008 - and second nuclear test on May 25, 2009.

When I see this kind of Design all the alarm bells go ringing....

Because I know from earlier observations, that when a phi spiral hits the same orbital position 2 years in a row....

it wil run through it again the following year: around May 25, 2010

3 years in a row

between May 25, 2009 en May 25, 2010 there's another hit on the spiral:

365 days / Phi 1.618 = 225 Venus year = around January 5, 2010:

on top of the timeline Q1 2010:

== double Hibakusha (= victim of the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki) Tsutomu Yamaguchi dies on January 4==


Wednesday, January 6, 2010; 1:48 AM

TOKYO -- Tsutomu Yamaguchi, the only person officially recognized as a survivor of both the Hiroshima and Nagasaki atomic bombings at the end of World War II, has died at age 93.


Yes its the Golden Mean that is unveiling the hidden underlying Design...


Golden Ratio Discovered in Quantum World: Hidden Symmetry Observed for the First Time in Solid State Matter

ScienceDaily (Jan. 7, 2010) — Researchers from the Helmholtz-Zentrum Berlin für Materialien und Energie (HZB), in cooperation with colleagues from Oxford and Bristol Universities, as well as the Rutherford Appleton Laboratory, UK, have for the first time observed a nanoscale symmetry hidden in solid state matter. They have measured the signatures of a symmetry showing the same attributes as the golden ratio famous from art and architecture.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/01/100107143909.htm

So next hit on this Phi based spiral will be Earths orbital position around May 25 again

followed by 'contact' timeframe in August 2010, see timeline here:
Q3 2010 timeline, July - August - September 2010
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?t=408&mforum=hddesign

So it looks like the upcoming timeframe around May 25, 2010 may have to deal with nuclear weapons, subtle or high impact.

Shouldn't the timeframe around May 25, 2008 also give somekind of a confirmation as the this time frame is part of the Phi spiral?

Well it does:

May 26, 2008: The International Atomic Energy Agency releases a report accusing Iran of hiding information about alleged studies of producing nuclear warheads and defying demands to suspend its uranium enrichment.[/quote]

end of quote[/quote]
and it is indeed around May 25, 2010 that the crisis between the nuclear powered Koreans emerges with full force, from the timeline:

North Korea threatens to exit pact
Tensions between North Korea and South Korea escalated Friday, a day after Seoul blamed the North for sinking one of its warships in March.

North Korea threatened to back out of a nonaggression pact between the nations, while the South Korean president accused its northern neighbor of engaging in military provocation
http://edition.cnn.com/20(...)ip/index.html?hpt=T2
Clinton: N. Korea must face consequences
http://edition.cnn.com/20(...)ip/index.html?hpt=T1

[size=18]"Firstly, from now on (North Korea) will regard the present situation as the phase of a war"[/size]

--Yonhap cites Committee for the Peaceful Reunification of Korea as saying

North Korea threatens military action against South
http://edition.cnn.com/20(...)ts/index.html?hpt=T1

make no mistake, this is about the 'nuclear theme' and Korea as expected, an 'in the face' confirmation of HDDesign:

Tuesday, May 25, military observers in the Korean Peninsula and Japan were predicting limited skirmishes on land, sea and air. Some sources found North Korea capable of going all the way to test-firing a nuclear warhead for the first time.


Analysis: Finding right tone in condemning North Korea
http://edition.cnn.com/20(...)is/index.html?hpt=T1
North Korea freezes relations with South Korea
http://edition.cnn.com/20(...)ts/index.html?hpt=T2
S.Korea urges China to help punish N.Korea
http://news.yahoo.com/s/a(...)naval_20100525082244

US demands world response over Korea warship sinking
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/asia_pacific/10160204.stm

S. Korea on alert as N. Korean subs disappear in East Sea
http://english.yonhapnews(...)100526001200315.HTML

North Korea scraps South Korea military safeguard pact
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/asia_pacific/10170019.stm

North Korea warns it will meet war with 'all-out war'
http://edition.cnn.com/20(...)ng/index.html?hpt=T1

North Korea mystery deepens

http://edition.cnn.com/20(...)na/index.html?hpt=T1

Last chance to resolve nuclear crisis: Iran
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/(...)-russia-7e07afd.html
Iran nuclear swap deal is 'trickery'
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/(...)olitics-575b600.html

By recognizing the potential in advance, the underlying themes will find a subtler way to express in our reality. Make no mistake, this is potentially about nuclear warfare and as HDDesign shows: we CAN understand WHEN we will have to deal with these specific underlying themes on specific moments in our perception of time. Its our COMMITMENT and INVOLVEMENT, that we are already dealing with these underlying themes, that it makes it possible to create a subtler reality.

We all have a responsibility in this and its about time that more people start to accept this.

For around May 27, 2010 I expected a 7+ Earthquake marking the last Mercury 'the Messenger' position prior to 'contact' ( around August 23, 2010, see timeline Q3 2010 ).

I wrote months prior to the timeframe:

It wouldn't amaze me if a >7 EQ would happen around the last orbital position of Mercury marking 'contact'

and that's exactly what happens:

[size=18]An earthquake with a 7.5 magnitude has struck the South Pacific Island of Vanuatu[/size]
The quake hit at approximately 01:14 PM, EDT, and had a depth of 22.4 miles.
Tsunami warnings have been issued for nearby coasts.

The powerful Vanuata quake was centered about 133 miles N-NW of Santo, Vanuatu.
The depth of 22.4 miles is considered shallow by the USGS.

An earthquake of this size has the potential to generate a destructive tsunami that can strike coastlines in the region near the epicenter within minutes to hours.
www.usgs.gov

So June is coming up, with Earth crossing the Venus Transit line, the Grand Cross orbital position around June 25 ( San Adreas faukt / exit of Sun King) and Srebrenica Karma at the end of June ( Mladic and others responsible for 'Srebrenica', security issue for Obama), among other interesting issues as mentioned on the timeline.

Q3 2010 also seem the become a very interesting time, with the expected 'contact" around August 23.

related threads ( login as 'reader' password 'reader'):
Q2 2010 april. may and June
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?t=401&mforum=hddesign
Q3 2010 timeline, July - August - September 2010
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?t=408&mforum=hddesign
CONTACT ( ENKI thread)
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?t=435&mforum=hddesign

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Dutch.vrijdag 4 juni 2010 @ 22:48
De ontwikkelingen rond Joran van der Sloot zijn op zich wel interressant, maar ik wil er nu niet te diep op in gaan omdat we de omloop positie naderen van de Venus Transits rond 7 Juni. Zie de tijdslijn.

Joran is een klassiek geval van een 'evil' expressie op een 'control timeframe', een van de eerste geidentificeerde elementen van HDDesign in 2004.

HDDesign unveils the hidden underlying Design of these evil facts:

one of the first identified elements of Hyper Dimensional Design:

Natalee Holloway disappeared on May 30, 2005

Stephany Flores Ramirez was killed on May 29, 2010

These dates match with the +/- 1 day markers of the 911 based 1823 days 'control' timeframe

starttrigger / Natalee - 911 days - mid point - 911 days - endtrigger Stephany

May 31, 2005 - May 28, 2010 = 1823 days

basic 911 based control timeframe or 2 Hyper Dimensional Tetrahedrons

Oh yes, the monitored events day at midpoint is confirming the hidden underlying Hyper Dimensional Design!

monitored events day at midpoint is around November 29, 2007
quote:
With Aruban investigators citing what was described as newly discovered evidence, Joran van der Sloot and Satish and Deepak Kalpoe were rearrested November 21, 2007, on suspicion of involvement in "manslaughter and causing serious bodily harm that resulted in the death of Holloway". Van der Sloot was detained by Dutch authorities in the Netherlands, while the Kalpoe brothers were both detained in Aruba. Van der Sloot subsequently returned to Aruba and was incarcerated.

==

On November 30, 2007, a judge ordered the release of Satish and Deepak Kalpoe, despite attempts by the prosecution to extend their detention
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natalee_Holloway

That means that at the monitored midpoint of both killings, Joran van der sloot is the sole suspect in jail!!!!!
Dutch.vrijdag 4 juni 2010 @ 23:36
focus on Earth´s orbital position of the Venus Transits of our times, around June 7 coming up.

http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?t=401&mforum=hddesign
login ´reader´ password ´reader´

´preemptive´
sir_Tachyonmaandag 7 juni 2010 @ 09:29
Welk topic is dat?
Dutch.vrijdag 18 juni 2010 @ 11:48
I want to ask your special attention to the upcoming timeframe around June 26, 2010.

I have extracted the relevant information about the Grand Cross orbital position from the HDDesign material and I have reposted it in a seperate thread.

I recommend to read it first, you can find it here ( login with 'reader' password 'reader')
Grand Cross
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?t=413&mforum=hddesign

The underlying themes are already on the timeline but there's much more related info in this "Grand Cross" summary thread.

There's also relevant info posted on the timeline.

From the timeline Q2, 2010:
quote:
June 26, 2010 - 'on top' Grand Cross, read related posts on page 1 of the Q2 timeline
San Andreas fault
Exit of Sun King

probably getting momentum on June 23 already: Venus at same orbital position as during Robert Encke committed suicide

also: next hit on the last 911 Phi based timecoded spiral which end on the end of the Mayan Long Count December 21 or 23, 2012. read related thread here:

The last 911 based Phi spiral
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?t=119&mforum=hddesign

The Next Big One

The next Big One could strike Tokyo, Istanbul, Tehran, Mexico City, New Delhi, Kathmandu or the two metropolises near California's San Andreas Fault, Los Angeles and San Francisco.

also: the last Hyper Dimensional Tetrahedron with the end of the Mayan Calendar, 911 days. Is monitored events timeframe with end of Mayan Long count as 911 endtriggerdate and the assassination of Benazir Bhutto on December 27, 2007 as 911 based starttrigger date/event.
Bhutto - end of Mayan Long count creates 1823 days 'control timeframe', with Grand Cross orbital position around June 26, 2010 as monitored events timeframe. Also based on the same underlying Design:

NASA astronomers refine the trajectory of new asteroid 2007 WD5, giving it a 1-in-25 (4%) chance of striking Mars on January 30, 2008. The object, estimated to be 50 meters wide, could impact Mars with the force of about three megatons of TNT. The potential strike area is close to the location of the Opportunity rover.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/December_2007

already getting momentum early:
Magnitude 5.7 - SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
2010 June 15 04:26:58 UTC
and
Strong quakes rock eastern Indonesia
4 shakers hit the same region in an hour ( June 16)
I want to emphasize that these underlying themes are related the annually recurring orbital position of the 'Grand Cross'.

Last year we saw the exit of Michael Jackson ( exit of Sun King) and this year I expect San Adreas activity, but it might aswell find momentum next year or 2012 ( not later) , who knows. There's a strong 'orbital position echo' link though for this year, in relation to the December 26, 2004 Sumatra 9+ quake/tsunami.

You can find the timeline here ( login 'reader' password 'reader')
Q2 2010 april. may and June
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?t=401&mforum=hddesign
Jumparoundvrijdag 18 juni 2010 @ 12:12
quote:
and this year I expect San Adreas activity, but it might aswell find momentum next year or 2012 ( not later)
Ah, zo kan ik ook voorspellen
Dutch.vrijdag 18 juni 2010 @ 22:33
Goed lezen,

Er staat in feite rond 26 juni dit jaar, rond 26 juni 2011 of rond 26 juni 2012.

met een focus op dit jaar, dus rond 26 juni 2010

Jouw quote beperkt zich tot een gedeelte van de tekst waardoor er heel iets anders gesuggereert wordt.
JoepiePoepiezaterdag 19 juni 2010 @ 18:32
quote:
Op vrijdag 18 juni 2010 11:48 schreef Dutch. het volgende:
Last year we saw the exit of Michael Jackson ( exit of Sun King)
Mensen die geloven dat Michael Jackson dood is...
quote:
Op vrijdag 18 juni 2010 22:33 schreef Dutch. het volgende:
rond 26 juni 2012.
Dat kan niet, want dan is de aarde al vergaan.
UncleScorpzaterdag 19 juni 2010 @ 23:10
quote:
Op zaterdag 19 juni 2010 18:32 schreef JoepiePoepie het volgende:
Mensen die geloven dat Michael Jackson dood is...

Dat kan niet, want dan is de aarde al vergaan.
Wat een zinvolle post weer

Zelfs na zoveel topics over 2012 heb je nog niet door dat die zogezegde datum 21/12/2012 is
En een eenvoudig rekensommetje leert je dat 21/12 na 12/6 komt
Jumparoundzaterdag 19 juni 2010 @ 23:31
quote:
Op vrijdag 18 juni 2010 22:33 schreef Dutch. het volgende:
Goed lezen,

Er staat in feite rond 26 juni dit jaar, rond 26 juni 2011 of rond 26 juni 2012.

met een focus op dit jaar, dus rond 26 juni 2010

Jouw quote beperkt zich tot een gedeelte van de tekst waardoor er heel iets anders gesuggereert wordt.


dan moet je wel verdomd goed lezen om te zien dat ie aan de orbital position refereerd voor de san andreas beving... maar je hebt gelijk
JoepiePoepiezondag 20 juni 2010 @ 01:12
quote:
Op zaterdag 19 juni 2010 23:10 schreef UncleScorp het volgende:
Wat een zinvolle post weer

Zelfs na zoveel topics over 2012 heb je nog niet door dat die zogezegde datum 21/12/2012 is
En een eenvoudig rekensommetje leert je dat 21/12 na 12/6 komt
Mensen die serieus ingaan op een grapje...
Dutch.maandag 21 juni 2010 @ 15:32
On October 12, 2009 the American writer Edgar Allan Poe received a second funeral in Baltimore, USA, 160 years after his death and 200 years after his birth.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8301128.stm

Poe and his works influenced literature in the United States and around the world, as well as in specialized fields, such as cosmology and cryptography.

Poe also reinvented science fiction, responding in his writing to emerging technologies such as hot air balloons in "The Balloon-Hoax".

"The Balloon-Hoax" is the title used in collections and anthologies of a newspaper article written by Edgar Allan Poe, first published in 1844. Originally presented as a true story, it detailed European Monck Mason's trip across the Atlantic Ocean in only three days in a gas balloon. It was later revealed as a hoax and the story was retracted two days later.

A few days after Edgar Allan Poe’s second funeral, on October 16, 2009, the world watched a giant balloon fly through the air as a tearful family expressed fears that their 6-year-old boy could be inside. Three days later authorities announced what millions suspected: The whole thing was staged.

Back in October 2009 I didn’t understand the significance of this synchronicity but today on June 21, 2010 I do understand that this Balloon Hoax is indeed a confirmation of the hidden underlying design I am about to unveil right now.

There are 2 major timeframes coming up on the timelines in the HDDesign material: the Grand Cross orbital position around June 26, 2010 and ‘Contact’ , around August 23, 2010. Both timeframes are identified and described in the HDDesign material only.

As always, I was just busy at work while I suddenly got this idea to consider these 2 major timeframes to be the 2 Pi points on a timeline, in the very same way as expressed with the ‘Deep Impact / Epoxi communication ’as explained in the HDDesign material. With these 2 major timeframes as Pi points this timeline starts on October 12, 2009 with Edgar Allan Poe’s second funeral.

When I started to read about Edgar Allan Poe today I found out about his balloon hoax and when I noticed the synchronicity with the actual balloon hoax during October 2009 I knew I was on the right track.

I wanted to know more about Poe. He considered “Eureka: A Prose Poem” to be his career masterpiece. It is a lengthy non-fiction work which he subtitled "A Prose Poem", though it has also been subtitled as "An Essay on the Material and Spiritual Universe". Adapted from a lecture he had presented, Eureka describes Poe's intuitive conception of the nature of the universe with no scientific work done to reach his conclusions. He also discusses man's relationship with God, whom he compares to an author. Though it is generally considered a literary work, some of Poe's ideas anticipate discoveries of the 20th century.

Eureka is Poe's attempt at explaining the universe, using his general proposition "Because Nothing was, therefore All Things are". In it, Poe discusses man's relationship to God and the universe or, as he offers at the beginning: "I design to speak of the Physical, Metaphysical and Mathematical – of the Material and Spiritual Universe: of its Essence, its Origin, its Creation, its Present Condition and its Destiny". In keeping with this design, Poe concludes "that space and duration are one" and that matter and spirit are made of the same essence. Poe suggests that people have a natural tendency to believe in themselves as infinite with nothing greater than their soul—such thoughts stem from man's residual feelings from when each shared an original identity with God. Ultimately individual consciousnesses will collapse back into a similar single mass, a "final ingathering" where the "myriads of individual Intelligences become blended". Likewise, Poe saw the universe itself as infinitely expanding and collapsing like a divine heartbeat which constantly rejuvenates itself, also implying a sort of deathlessness. In fact, because the soul is a part of this constant throbbing, after dying, all people, in essence, become God.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eureka:_A_Prose_Poem

Eureka, I like this guy!!!!

Eureka?

We are talking about “Contact’ around August 23, 2010 ( so far via Earthquakes ) and the San Andrea fault as underlying theme for the Grand Cross orbital position.

As already identified in the HDDesign material, it’s the 6.5 California earthquake on January 9, 2010, that is part of the (earthquake ) ‘communication’ that is taking place, exactly 1 Venus years in Earth days prior to ‘Contact’ around August 23, 2010.

Epicenter: EUREKA !!!!

And Mercury “The Messenger” is at the same orbital position during the second funeral of Edgar Allan Poe / balloon hoax and the Eureka quake, so when the fist inner planet takes orbital position again, Poe’s masterpiece shows up as another ‘confirmation’.

I want to emphasize again that the Grand Cross orbital position around June 26, 2010 also creates a Hyper Dimensional Tetrahedron with the end of the Mayan Long Count calendar.

Be aware of the fact that this all indicates that we are dealing here with the Destiny of Mankind, so please focus on the upcoming timeframe around June 26, 2010 and try to understand the events during this timeframe with the information I have been giving in mind.

I expect to write an analysis after the timeframe is closed.

Take care,

Dutch
Dutch.maandag 21 juni 2010 @ 23:09
quote:
Op vrijdag 4 juni 2010 23:36 schreef Dutch. het volgende:
focus on Earth´s orbital position of the Venus Transits of our times, around June 7 coming up.

http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?t=401&mforum=hddesign
login ´reader´ password ´reader´

´preemptive´
updated Venus Transit timeframe around June 7:

Oh yes, the 'preemptive strike' was on the table during the Venus Transit timeline:
US-led armada secretly drilled bombing Iranian targets, missile defense with Israel. The 10 US warships plus an Israeli and German battle vessel each, which transited the Suez Canal Friday, June 18, have reached the Persian Gulf. But first, from June 6 through June 10, the USS Harry S. Truman carrier Strike Group was deployed 50 miles of the shore of southwestern Israel on a secret joint war exercise

http://www.debka.com/article/8866/
Jumparoundmaandag 28 juni 2010 @ 12:09
quote:
Be aware of the fact that this all indicates that we are dealing here with the Destiny of Mankind, so please focus on the upcoming timeframe around June 26, 2010 and try to understand the events during this timeframe with the information I have been giving in mind.
ik zie niets... of je moet doelen op
quote:
On June 27, NASA's historic Deep Impact spacecraft will fly past Earth for the fifth and last time on its current University of Maryland-led EPOXI mission. At time of closest approach to Earth, the spacecraft will be about 30,400 kilometers (18,900 miles) above the South Atlantic.
Dutch.vrijdag 2 juli 2010 @ 12:46
In a previous post I have mentioned that There are 2 major timeframes coming up on the timelines in the HDDesign material: the Grand Cross orbital position around June 26, 2010 and ‘Contact’ , around August 23, 2010. Both timeframes are identified and described in the HDDesign material only.

I have to emphasize that the Grand Cross of orbital positions in the HDDesign material is something else than a Grand Cross of Planetary alignments. The Grand Cross of orbital positions in the HDDesign material creates a Grand Cross with specific orbital positions of Earth on its orbit around the sun . In my native language ( Dutch ) the word ‘cross’ is also used to express a ‘crucifix’ and the Grand Cross in the HDDesign is just like that: a crucifix.

As everything else in the HDDesign material, the Grand Cross of orbital positions initially emerged by an intuitive thought and the follow up of the synchronicities that occurred.
The astrological Grand Cross planetary alignment of August 18, 1999 ( 'as above' ) was the first 'marker' on Earth's orbit in order to determine a Grand Cross ( crucifix) as created with Earth's orbital positions ( 'so below' ) The second 'marker' was the planetary alignment of May 5, 2000 so the 2 other orbital positions of the Grand Cross ( crucifix ) on Earth's orbit could be calculated: December 26 ( Sumatra quake /Tsunami ) and June 26.
The info can be reviewed is a separate thread dedicated to the orbital Grand Cross in the HDDesign material here:
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?t=413&mforum=hddesign

So with the December 26, 2004 massive Earthquake in Sumatra ( 9+) and the Tsunami that followed, 3 orbital positions of the crucifix were marked on Earth’s orbit and I expected that the last orbital position of the crucifix should be confirmed too: around June 26.

Earth’s orbital position around June 26, 2010 was according to the HDDesign material ‘on top’ of the Grand Cross ( crucifix, so below) and was marked by a powerful alignment of seven planets in a Grand Cross formation, including a partial lunar eclipse!( as above)
( see for instance: Capricorn Full Moon eclipse June 26, complete with Grand Cross
Read more: http://blog.beliefnet.com(...)u.html#ixzz0sVj8pN6o )

The 9+ December 26, 2004 Sumatra Quake / Tsunami is herewith firmly marked as one of the most profound events in the Design of the times we live in. I remember that back in 2004 prior to the Venus Transit, I talked about an expected Hyper- Dimensionally initiated ‘charge’ up that would be triggered by the Venus Transit and would become apparent on Earth in the leading Hyper Dimensional Octahedron area : Indonesia. Around the Venus Transit of June 8, 2004 the volcanic activity increased significantly in the Indonesian area and the ‘charge up’ eventually culminated with the Sumatra quake/ tsunami.

There’s something else with the Sumatra quake/tsunami, which was initially triggered by the Venus Transit. The December 26, 2004 Sumatra quake/tsunami happened with Venus on the same orbital position as during the end of the Mayan Long count in December 2012, exactly 13 Venus years apart or exactly similar as the timeframe between the 2 Venus Transits of our times: June 8, 2004 and June 6, 2012! ( ergo: timeframe between Venus Transits is similar as between the Sumatra quake and the end of the Mayan Calendar).

Back to the orbital position of the Grand Cross around June 26 again. I wrote that I was busy at work while I suddenly got this idea to consider these 2 major timeframes, grand cross June 26, 2010 and August 23, 2010 ‘Contact’, to be the 2 Pi points on a timeline, in the very same way as expressed with the ‘Deep Impact / Epoxi communication ’as explained in the HDDesign material. This Pi based Design was first discovered in the HDDesign material in relation to the ‘communication’ that took place with the spacecraft Deep Impact/ Epoxi ( you can review or reread it if you like ). While an actual planetary alignment in itself is a already a strong confirmation of the given hidden underlying Design, I did expected at least a second confirmation during this years orbital position of the Grand cross.

And as an ‘in the face’ confirmation its spacecraft Deep Impact/Epoxi that made one final flyby of Earth during the Grand Cross orbital position around June 26, 2010, getting a gravity assist to help propel the spacecraft towards a meetup with comet Hartley 2 this fall:
Deep Impact / Epoxi Spacecraft to Make Final Flyby of Earth
http://www.universetoday.(...)inal-flyby-of-earth/

The first time spacecraft Deep Impact made an Earth fly by, end of December 2007, it was about 911 days after Deep Impact on comet Temple I and therefore creating a Hyper Dimensional Tetrahedron according the described Platonic Solid based elements in the HDDesign material.
And again 911 days later, again creating a Hyper Dimensional Tetrahedron, Deep Impact/Epoxi made an Earth fly by again during Grand Cross around June 26, 2010 !! Not only confirming the significance of the Grand Cross, but also confirming August 23, 2010 with ‘contact’ as underlying theme.

But there’s more. This year orbital position of the Grand Cross also creates a ( geometrical Platonic Solid based ) Hyper Dimensional Tetrahedron with the end of the Mayan calendar!!

Plato………

Watch this video, the maker has used several items directly taken from the HDDesign material :


With a previous post I have introduced Edgar Alan Poe’s ‘Eureka’ and the actual earthquake in Eureka as part of the ‘communication’ that is taking place. You can read about Poe’s Eureka in my previous post or here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eureka:_A_Prose_Poem

As a nice synchronicity, Dr Kennedy, a science historian in Manchester claims to have deciphered secret messages hidden in the ancient writings of the philosopher Plato.
Like all great discoveries, Dr Kennedy said his own Eureka moment was partly due to 'luck.'
By unravelling Plato's 'hidden' messages, Dr Kennedy believes he has thrown a new light on the origins of science, mathematics, music, and philosophy.
Read on:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/loc(...)_8773000/8773564.stm

Its not ‘luck’, its because the time is right. So we have this HD Tetrahedron, geometrically based on one of Plato’s Solid , connecting the Grand Cross of June 26, 2010 and the end of the Mayan calendar. As a regular reader of the HDDesign forum you might have noticed that I have been monitoring crop circles since e few weeks.



A crop circle thought to be inspired by a formula acclaimed as the most beautiful in all mathematics has appeared on a hillside in Wiltshire.
Experts say that the design may be connected to Euler's Identity, a complex formula devised by the 18th Century Swiss mathematician Leonhard Euler.

"This is one of the most profound and complicated equations of the past 2,000 years, and we think the crop circle is some form of visual translation."

The Wilton Windmill pattern is the latest in a long line of mathematical crop circles in Britain. In 2008 a coded image representing the first 10 digits of pi was discovered in a barley field in Wiltshire. ( Dutch: which made me discover the Pi based communication with this spacecraft Deep Impact/Epoxi )

Euler's Identity is admired by mathematicians for linking several fundamental mathematical constants.

Keith Devlin, professor of mathematics at Stanford University in California, said that the formula "reaches down into the very depths of existence ... like a Shakespearean sonnet that captures the very essence of love."
http://www.telegraph.co.u(...)rs-in-Wiltshire.html

There’s a German called Werner Johannes Neuner who has deciphered this cropcircle and he comes up with the very same 2 dates as determined here in the HDDesign material: Grand cross June 26, 2010 and the end of the Mayan calendar. You can find his work here in his native language:
http://www.meinthema.com/de/wernerneuner/News/W9News

But there’s already a translation available, let’s see what Werner has to tell:

In english:
"On May 22 a crop Circle appeared near the windmill of Wilton in Wiltshire, South of England – a crop circle with an encoded message. This crop circle speaks of a profound paradigm shift, a reverse of polarity.
It alludes to two dates: The Grand Cross on June 26 2010 and December 21, 2012.
It contains a powerful warning, speaks of a global crisis and at the same time it shows the solution.
On June 26, 2010, there is an extraordinary planetary constellation, a Grand Cross. According to the message of the crop circle, the sun creates a new room, a healing room, a new field of consciousness on that day.
The sun unites two poles, merging them to a unity on June 26. This merging of polarities leads to a short-circuit, or in other words, a cosmic orgasm due to which a new room will enfold. This new room is a gift, because in this new room what seemed devoid of meaning all of sudden makes sense again. What enfolds is a new, corrected reality, shifted in phase!
According to the message of the crop circle this new room can be accessed by everyone through the power of consciousness.
If LOVE succeeds on earth, and be it for only a few hours in just one person or in just one loving couple, this experience of LOVE will leave a trace in this newly opening room, a trace which is eternal and will remain active forever. A shining trace, a trace of love, which will remain visible far beyond earth atmosphere. Each experience of love and every experience of peace will stimulate this room, fill and adorn it. The power of this room is going to grow exponentially. The songs of the Healed Matrix are the hymns which will fill this room!
Each person who dares to leave behind the matrix of power and violence, everyone who is not afraid of letting go old belief systems but live instead in harmony with Mother Earth and ALL that IS, will be able to access this room. Each person will receive healing impulses from this room through his consciousness and heart and will give in return his/her healing experience back to this room.
What we find in this room will exist within ourselves and outside of us. It is a Secret of the Universe, that what is being formed outside can be accessed from within; you find it in your own sacred inner space, your personal centre.
And once this Healing Matrix in this newly created Healing Room will be powerful enough, the matrix of fear will dissolve and the Healing Matrix will expand.
This is the Plan of the Star Master and the Planetary Beings.
This Healing Room is less than an atom in distance from us.
This Healing Room is in our own Sacred Space Centre when we are in unison with ourselves, in unison with Mother Earth and in unison with ALL that IS.
Werner Johannes Neuner describes the process of decodification of the message of the Crop Circle of Wilton in detail and all the information is available in German at this link:
http://www.meinthema.com/de/wernerneuner/News/W9News
He is looking forward to entering this Sacred Room together with all of us,
In the Light of Unity "
Werner Johannes Neuner and Sonja Myriel, who translated this message

end of quote.

Its true that I also expected events expressing the underlying themes ‘exit of Sun King’ and ‘San Andreas fault’ for around the June 26 orbital position of the Grand Cross, although I couldn’t know for which year so I stated in advance that I expect expressions related to these themes around June 26, 2010, June 26, 2011 or June 26, 2012.

In case of an Hyper Dimensionally initiated Earth change event like a (big) earthquake, we first see a Hyper Dimensional ‘inwelling’ , becoming apparent in our 3D reality above 60 degrees latitude ( see Enterprisemission’s ‘Hyper Dimensional Physics’ for details, I can provide them too), followed by an ‘outwelling’ sometime later. I have no idea how long it could take ( continued monitoring should shine a light on it I suppose. ). Perhaps the 4.8 Southern Alaskan earthquake at 62 North during the Grand Cross was such a 3D counterpart of a HD ‘inwelling’ and is the ‘outwelling’ yet to come, I don’t know. The Sumatra quake was more than half a year after the Venus Transit so I will keep on monitor it.

‘Contact’ is ongoing and HDDesign will continue to unveil it.

Keep an eye on the timelines ( ‘Contact’ around august 23 ) :
Q3 2010 timeline, July - August - September 2010
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?t=445&mforum=hddesign
Handschoenvrijdag 2 juli 2010 @ 15:53
Weer mooi materiaal Dutch, keep it up

Dutch.maandag 5 juli 2010 @ 22:21
Als Nederland de finale gaat spelen op 11 juli, 15 jaar na ´Srebrenica´, dan is het een perfecte mogelijkheid om een ´subtiele´ uitdrukking te geven van het onderliggende thema ´srebrenica karma´´.

We zouden op zijn minst met zwarte banden moeten spelen en ook om een minuut stilte moeten vragen.

Wat betreft de wedstrijd zelf denk ik dat we van Spanje kunnen winnen, van Duitsland niet ( tenzij we inderdaad op een nadere manier blijk geven van verantwoordelijkheid voor het Srebrenica drama).
Dutch.dinsdag 6 juli 2010 @ 11:32
Oh yes,

I have asked in advance to keep an eye on:
Ratko Mladic, Barack Obama , Hillary and Bill Clinton, Wim Kok, Geert Wilders, Jacques Chiraq, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, The tribunal in The Hague, Joris Voorhoeve, Bernard Janvier, Hans Couzy, Thom Karremans , Robert Franken

because I expected that 'Srebrenica karma' would probably find its way to express through some of these people around July 1, 2010

and that's exactly what has happened: survivors of the Srebrenica massacre are going to sue Karremans and Franken, the leaders of Dutchbat at the time of the Srebrenica massacre, for genocide and warcrimes!!!!!!!!!!

translation will follow:
[size=18]Aanklacht tegen leiders Dutchbat / leaders Dutchbat sued[/size]

Nabestaanden van de slachtoffers van Srebrenica hebben een aanklacht ingediend tegen Dutchbat-commandant Karremans en zijn plaatsvervanger, majoor Franken. Ze worden beschuldigd van genocide en oorlogsmisdrijven.
http://nos.nl/artikel/169(...)eiders-dutchbat.html
Dutch.dinsdag 6 juli 2010 @ 13:54
Aangifte wegens genocide tegen Dutchbatters

AMSTERDAM - Nabestaanden van slachtoffers van de val van Srebrenica in 1995 hebben aangifte gedaan van genocide en oorlogsmisdrijven tegen onder anderen overste Thom Karremans.

Dat heeft advocate Liesbeth Zegveld dinsdag gemeld. Hasan Nuhanovic en de nabestaanden van Rizo Mustafic hebben aangifte gedaan, omdat de Nederlandse militairen in juli 1995 hun familieleden overdroegen aan de Bosnische Serviërs, die hen hebben vermoord.

Behalve tegen Karremans, commandant van het VN-bataljon Dutchbat, is aangifte gedaan tegen diens plaatsvervanger Franken en tegen personeelsfunctionaris Oosterveen. Het bataljon moest in Srebrenica de moslims beschermen.

Op 11 juli 1995 viel de enclave echter in handen van de Bosnisch-Servische vijand, die vervolgens achtduizend moslimmannen en -jongens vermoordde.


Tolk

Nuhanovic was tolk bij Dutchbat. Hij zocht met zijn ouders en broer zijn toevlucht tot het hoofdkwartier van Dutchbat. Op 13 juli dwongen Dutchbat-soldaten hen de compound te verlaten.

Ook elektricien Rizo Mustafic, die sinds 1994 bij het lokale personeel van het bataljon hoorde, moest weg. Hij is sindsdien spoorloos. De resten van de vader en broer van Nuhanovic zijn in 2007 en 2010 gevonden. De broer wordt binnenkort begraven in Srebrenica.

Het Openbaar Ministerie (OM) heeft nooit strafrechtelijk onderzoek gedaan, terwijl het daartoe volgens Europese verdragen verplicht is, aldus Zegveld. De nabestaanden willen dat het OM alsnog zo'n onderzoek doet. De aangifte is bij het OM in Arnhem gedaan, omdat die rechtbank strafzaken tegen militairen behandelt.


Weggevoerd

Rizo Mustafic en ander lokaal personeel zou met de Dutchbatters in veiligheid worden gebracht. Hij wist dat hij op die lijst stond, aldus advocaat Zegveld en volgens haar hadden zowel Karremans als Franken dat duidelijk gemaakt. Desondanks meldde Oosterveen hem dat hij weg moest. Net buiten het hek werd Mustafic gescheiden van zijn vrouw en weggevoerd.

Nuhanovic mocht blijven, maar zijn familie niet. Franken heeft volgens Zegveld gezegd dat zijn vader mocht blijven, maar zijn moeder en broer niet. Uiteindelijk zijn alle drie weggegaan. ''Franken heeft willens en wetens de broer en vader van Nuhanovic van de compound gestuurd'', aldus Zegveld. ''Franken heeft erkend dat hij hen de dood in heeft gestuurd.''

http://www.nu.nl/binnenla(...)de-dutchbatters.html
Dutch.dinsdag 6 juli 2010 @ 14:08
also updated June 28-30 'Srebrenica karma'

28 June, 2010
TERTIARY MASS GRAVE IN ZALAZJE, PRELIMINARY WORK IN PROGRESS

Members of the forensic expert team from Tuzla, International Commission on Mising Persons (ICMP), and the Court of Bosnia-Herzegovina, began a preliminary work on the mass grave located on a garbage dump near the village of Zalazje. The location of this mass grave was confirmed by the RS (Bosnian Serb) government. The surface of the mass grave already contains skeletal remains, according to Sadik Selimovic of the Institute for Missing Persons. The size of the mass grave is 80 x 20 metres and, based on dimensions, it is expected to yield a large number of skeletal remains.


"After the Serbs executed Srebrenica Bosniaks in the Agrarian Cooperative Kravica, the victims were then transported and buried in the Glogova mass grave near Bratunac. From that location, according to yet unconfirmed information, the remains were transported and re-buried in Zeleni Jadar, and then dug out and re-buried on this location in Zalazje," explained Cantonal Prosecutor Alma Dzaferovic. / Source: FENA

SREBRENICA GENOCIDE IS NOT A MATTER OF ANYBODY'S OPINION; IT'S A JUDICIAL FACT RECOGNIZED FIRST BY THE INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL TRIBUNAL FOR THE FORMER YUGOSLAVIA AND SUBSEQUENTLY BY THE INTERNATIONAL COURT OF JUSTICE.
http://srebrenica-genocid(...)azje-mass-grave.html
Jumparoundvrijdag 23 juli 2010 @ 11:41
Dutch!

We hebben je guidance nodig man!
Dreigende taal Noord-Korea
+ Orkaan richting Oil-spil
+ Opkomende quake in San Fransico!



en nou niet achteraf komen met ja, blabla zelfde orbitale stand en sun king en whatnot
Dutch.zondag 25 juli 2010 @ 17:04
ik ben net terug van vakantie maar er is iets nog belangrijkers aan het ontwikkelen: Het speciale Libanon tribunaal dat de moord op Rafik Hariri ondrzoekt gaat binnenkort Hizbollah beschuldigen met alle gevolgen van dien. Ik heb een hoop in te halen maar probeer snel meer info te geven.

Zoals je misschien weet geef ik al jaren consequent aan dat de moord op Rafik Hariri de belangrijkste 'casus belli' is voor een mogelijk ontwikkelend oorlogs scenario.
Dutch.zaterdag 31 juli 2010 @ 13:44
keep your fingers crossed

The UN Special Tribunal for Lebanon is reportedly set to announce that Mustafa Badr al-Din, a senior Hizbullah operative and close relative of the former Hizbullah terror chief Imad Mughniyeh, is the main suspect in the 2005 assassination of former Lebanese prime minister Rafik Hariri.

I have been saying it consistently for more than 5 years now

The assassination of Rafik Hariri was the initial trigger of an evolving war scenario

The Hariri Killing, Casus Belli WWIII ?
http://hddesign.forumup.n(...)forum=hddesign#11458
Dutch.dinsdag 3 augustus 2010 @ 22:10
OMG!! The name of the Israeli Lt.Col. who was killed at the Lebanese border clash today: Dov HARARI
http://www.debka.com/article/8947/
Dutch.vrijdag 27 augustus 2010 @ 13:10
‘contact’

Last year in June I've already determined the timeframe around august 23, 2010 as a timeframe with ‘contact’ as underlying theme. The determination was based on the Tunguska event on June 30, 1908 and the Roswell crash around July 7, 1947. If the Roswell crash is at Phipoint on a timeline marked by the Tunguska Event, than the other marker would be the timeframe around August 23, 2010 ( plus/minus a few days).

Before I proceed, I first want to emphasize again that the Tunguska Event is identified in the HDDesign material as the marker in relation to Deep Impact on comet Temple I and the use of nuclear weapons ( Hirhoshima / Nagasaki ), as unveiled by the Golden Mean Phi, in the very same way as ‘contact’ around August 23, 2010 is determined in relation to the Roswell crash and the Tunguska Event.

I’ve called the timeframe around August 23, 2010 ‘contact’ because of the correlation with the Roswell crash but also as a confirmation of the Tunguska Event in fact being an Intelligently Designed ‘warning’ in relation to human activity in space and the use of nuclear power.

The orbital positions of the planets prior to this timeframe around August 23, 2010, are also 'confirming' the underlying ‘Tunguska’ theme, I wrote on the timeline Q3 2010 for the timeframe around August 23, 2010:

quote:
With these big Earth quakes at Mercury ( Chili) and Venus ( Eureka) orbital positions marking this timeframe around August 23, it is Mars to unveil what this truly is about: 'Tunguska'

[quote] A small asteroid exploded over Africa this week following what astronomers said was the first firm prediction of an incoming space rock.

It did not strike Earth.
http://hddesign.forumup.n(...)mforum=hddesign#9996

THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT WE ARE ABLE TO KNOW WHAT'S POTENTIALLY OUT THERE AND WHEN , GIVING POSSIBILITY TO LESSEN ITS IMPACT BY TAKING OUR RESPONSIBILITIES.
STAY OUT OF SPACE, KEEP HUMAN CONSCIOUSNESS EARTHBOUND AND DON'T F**K WITH NUCLEAR POWER

Read related info on the 'Enki thread' here:
http://hddesign.forumup.n(...)mforum=hddesign#9996[/quote]

Back in March this year I was challenged by a poster on JREF’s forum to ‘predict’ what would happen in relation to this ‘contact’ theme:

quote:
1st March 2010, 10:25 PM

Originally Posted by Blue Mountain
Hi Dutch,

Can HDD tell us when and where the NEXT >7.0 earthquake will be, instead of having to showhorn the event into HDD after it's occurred?
My reply:

quote:
It wouldn't amaze me if a >7 EQ would happen around the last orbital position of Mercury marking 'contact': May 27, 2010

followed by a big EQ in the San Andreas area around Earth's orbital position of the Grand Cross: around June 26, 2010, with a possibility on June 23 too ( Venus at same orbital position as during Robert Ecke committed suicide )

I expect 'Contact' is around August 23, 2010, not by means of EQ, but more like somekind of 'Tunguska' 'conditioning'

Mount St. Helens/Yellowstone is expected for around HD Cube timeframe in November this year. That means EQ or volcanic activity, high impact or subtle.
You can review the post here:
http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=5671374&postcount=2632

When Mercury was marking ‘contact’ around May 27, 2010 a powerful earthquake with a 7.5 magnitude has struck the South Pacific Island of Vanuatu, exactly as ‘predicted’.
Prior to the timeframe around June 26 I have posted an addition that the expected San Andreas earthquake was indeed identified as underlying theme for Earth’s orbital position of the Grand Cross around June 26, but that its annually recurring and not part of a pattern specifically linked to this years June 26. Prior to June 26 I have specifically explained that I expect this San Andreas underlying theme to become clear around June 26 this year, June 26 2011 or June 26, 2012.

Back to ‘contact’.
I expected some kind of ‘Tunguska conditioning’ as a confirmation for the described underlying Design and a ‘Tunguska conditioning’ is what we got:

With Venus, Mars and Mercury already playing a role in this ‘as above – so below’ communication that is taking place, its Jupiter to confirm the ‘Tunguska’ underlying theme with an actual Tunguska-like impact:

New Fireball on Jupiter Spotted By Skywatchers
http://www.space.com/scie(...)l-impact-100823.html

An actual Tunguska-like event as witnessed by humans and shared to the world during this pre-determined 'contact' timeframe in which a Tunguska-like event was expected according to the HDDesign material!

I also expected developments around August 23, 2010 in relation to extraterrestrial life and that’s indeed what we got :

We Are Not Alone, And This Is How Life Begins
http://www.spacedaily.com(...)Life_Begins_999.html
Mud Volcanoes On Mars
If life does - or did - exist on Mars, signs of such life might well be found in a region in the northern plains called Acidalia Planitia
http://www.marsdaily.com/reports/Mud_Volcanoes_On_Mars_999.html
Alien hunters 'should look for artificial intelligence'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-11041449
Beer microbes live 553 days outside ISS
This type of research also plays into the popular theory that micro-organisms can somehow be transported between the planets in rocks - in meteorites - to seed life where it does not yet exist.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-11039206
Rich exoplanet system discovered
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-11070991
NASA to announce discovery of 'intriguing planetary system'
http://edition.cnn.com/20(...)F8f1kazfoV&wom=false
Kepler spies Saturn-sized worlds
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-11097226

I want to emphasize that there’s a big difference between these 2 aspects of ‘contact’ as outlined above.
Life on earth and extraterrestrial life are expressions of consciousness in our familiar dimensions.
The hidden underlying Intelligent Design in our reality unveils the inter- dimensional ‘communication’ that is taking place and originates from or is part of ‘higher’ dimensional realms.

The ‘Tunguska warning’ is clear.

During ‘contact’ Iran's first nuclear plant began fueling…………

The Hariri situation will come to a climax soon……….

Are we still ‘running on autopilot towards a nuclear event’?

Another expression of this underlying ‘contact’ theme is coming up:

quote:
Mount St. Helens/Yellowstone is expected for around HD Cube timeframe in November this year. That means EQ or volcanic activity, high impact or subtle.
Already years ago I linked the Hariri situation to Yellowstone but I said back then that unfortunately not much people would understand and accept it and as of today I have to admit not much has changed.

Unfortunately most will still ignore or dismiss it, but ‘Yellowstone’ is coming up with a ‘Hariri-volcano’ about to erupt :

I wrote:

quote:
Yes,

We all have a shared responsibility in this, as with everything that happens in our reality. I cannot emphasize enough that we CAN make these subtle expressions possible. We may not be able to avoid to have to deal with specific ( karmic ) issues/underlying themes in our reality at specific moments in our perception of time, but as long as we understand WHY these events are happening, or at least if we do have a bit of understanding, than it becomes possible that the expressions will find a more subtle way to materialize in our reality.

Yellowstone doesn't have to blow

back in 2006, about a yellowstone article:

[quote]In recent years, the possibility of a large volcanic eruption has been a popular media topic, but Smith said the scenario seems overhyped. A more likely possibility would be a large earthquake, he said, noting that the most powerful quake in the interior Western United States happened at Hebgen Lake on Aug. 17, 1959.

"It's a much higher risk," he said.
http://www.stargatezero.c(...)msg5267.html#msg5267

I replied on that:

"Yes August 17, Hyper dimensional CUBE date. Yellowstone is near HD Cube location. I expect activity towards or on HD Cube date November 17, 2010"

and

"I guess it's too soon to say, but unclear / nuclear is indeed related to yellowstone to blow.a nuclear explosion increases yellowstone risks,that's what the patterns are trying to say, at least to me ".

I also said already back in 2006 in relation to HD Cube November 17, 2010 Yellowstone/Mount st helens:

"magnitude depends on how we wil deal with the related carmic issues at hand"

With that I meant the Hariri killing ( also HD Cube ) and nuclear power.

There are 4 HD Cube timeframes at macrolevel

November 17, in 2010 on the timeline as expected potential Yellowstone/Mount st Helens Earthchange event.

August 17, see Hebgen Lake Earthquake in 1959

May 18, in 1980 catastrophic eruption of Mount St. Helens

and Feb 14: Hariri? [/quote]

Keep an eye on the timeline here:
Q3 2010 timeline, July - August - September 2010
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?t=408&mforum=hddesign

related threads:
CONTACT ( ENKI thread)
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?t=435&mforum=hddesign
The Hariri Killing, Casus Belli WWIII ?
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?t=3&mforum=hddesign
experimental stuff / The Venus Connection
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?t=5&mforum=hddesign
Maurice76vrijdag 27 augustus 2010 @ 14:14
Dutch, waarom is Rafic Hariri (dat is toch degene waar het om gaat? Die vermoord is in februari 2005?) zo belangrijk in die hele Tunguska / nucleaire HD design? Wat is zijn betrokkenheid erin? Als ik je berichten lees, is hij een centrale spil in dit alles, maar ik zie het verband eerlijk gezegd niet. Wat heeft deze man tijdens zijn leven te maken gehad met de andere zaken waar je hem aan koppelt?

Bovendien heb je ook meermalen een waarschuwing geuit, dat de mens uit de ruimte moet blijven en van nucleaire energie moet afblijven. Waar baseer je dat dan op? Ja, Tunguska was inderdaad letterlijk en figuurlijk een behoorlijke smak en ja, nucleaire energie e.d. zijn gevaarlijk ... maar is je conclusie dat we dan maar niet de ruimte in moeten (en er niet eens aan moeten denken) niet ver gezocht? Ik bedoel, ik zou het juist als reden zien om het omgekeerde te doen: vandaag of morgen komt er zo'n knaller op onze planeet, dat we maar beter de mogelijkheid hebben om van deze rost af te (kunnen) zijn. Met andere woorden, ik zou op basis van deze dingen juist zeggen, vaart maken met het ruimtevaart programma!
Jumparoundvrijdag 27 augustus 2010 @ 15:00
Stephen Baxter heeft daar een mooi kort verhaal over geschreven.
Hij filosofeert over het Fermi paradox waarom we geen sporen van buitenaards leven zien.

1 daarvan is dat we in een "gevangenis" leven van grofweg ons zonnestelsel. Op den duur gaat Malafant (de terugkerende hoofdpersoon in de korte verhalen) een laser bouwen om ge gevangenis te testen. Hij wil een echo opwekken van een planeet rond een andere zon (ongeveer op 4 lichtjaar) dus zou hij met 8 jaar antwoord moeten hebben...
Hij redeneert namelijk dat het enorm veel energie moet kosten om het expiriment in stand te houden (wij zijn het expiriment) en de overtreffe stap te veel energie gaat kosten voor de aliens (dat is de "schil" uitbreiden van de grens van ons zonnestelsel naar de rest van de melkweg)

Uiteindelijk heeft malefant gelijk en stort onze realiteit in elkaar.

Misschien willen eventuele aliens ons daarom niet in de ruimte hebben...
Tickervrijdag 27 augustus 2010 @ 15:03
quote:
Op vrijdag 27 augustus 2010 15:00 schreef Jumparound het volgende:
Stephen Baxter heeft daar een mooi kort verhaal over geschreven.
Hij filosofeert over het Fermi paradox waarom we geen sporen van buitenaards leven zien.

1 daarvan is dat we in een "gevangenis" leven van grofweg ons zonnestelsel. Op den duur gaat Malafant (de terugkerende hoofdpersoon in de korte verhalen) een laser bouwen om ge gevangenis te testen. Hij wil een echo opwekken van een planeet rond een andere zon (ongeveer op 4 lichtjaar) dus zou hij met 8 jaar antwoord moeten hebben...
Hij redeneert namelijk dat het enorm veel energie moet kosten om het expiriment in stand te houden (wij zijn het expiriment) en de overtreffe stap te veel energie gaat kosten voor de aliens (dat is de "schil" uitbreiden van de grens van ons zonnestelsel naar de rest van de melkweg)

Uiteindelijk heeft malefant gelijk en stort onze realiteit in elkaar.

Misschien willen eventuele aliens ons daarom niet in de ruimte hebben...
Interessante theorie van iemand die een hele andere insteek heeft maar uiteindelijk wel alle punten van de huidige BNW kijk op een globaal complot bevat. Vooral dat laatste stukje sluit duidelijk op een visuele matrix aan.. een fantasie gebaseerd op de hersenen.
Jumparoundvrijdag 27 augustus 2010 @ 15:11
Dat laatste sluit daar duidelijk NIET op aan, anders zouden ze zonder al te veel moeite de "gevangenis" kunnen uitbreiden.
Het is juist een fysieke gevangenis, daar gaat het expiriment stuk...
Tickervrijdag 27 augustus 2010 @ 16:21
quote:
Op vrijdag 27 augustus 2010 15:11 schreef Jumparound het volgende:
Dat laatste sluit daar duidelijk NIET op aan, anders zouden ze zonder al te veel moeite de "gevangenis" kunnen uitbreiden.
Het is juist een fysieke gevangenis, daar gaat het expiriment stuk...
Fysiek als in dat je het kan beetpakken? Nee dat zeker niet.
Jumparoundvrijdag 27 augustus 2010 @ 16:46
quote:
Op vrijdag 27 augustus 2010 16:21 schreef Ticker het volgende:

[..]

Fysiek als in dat je het kan beetpakken? Nee dat zeker niet.
yup, als in dat je het kan vastpakken.

Zonder zich er al te veel mee te willen bemoeien hebben de aliens zich in een naar pakket gewurmd. Ze moesten namelijk de projectie oprekken van een schil rond de aarde, tot een schil rond de aarde incl. maan.
naar incl. mars, jupiter enz. enz. :)
Dutch.maandag 30 augustus 2010 @ 13:39
quote:
Op vrijdag 27 augustus 2010 14:14 schreef Maurice76 het volgende:
Dutch, waarom is Rafic Hariri (dat is toch degene waar het om gaat? Die vermoord is in februari 2005?) zo belangrijk in die hele Tunguska / nucleaire HD design? Wat is zijn betrokkenheid erin? Als ik je berichten lees, is hij een centrale spil in dit alles, maar ik zie het verband eerlijk gezegd niet. Wat heeft deze man tijdens zijn leven te maken gehad met de andere zaken waar je hem aan koppelt?
Rafik Hariri werd vermoord op de Hyper Dimensional Cube datum op macro niveau. Wat 9/11 was voor de HD Tetrahedron, is de moord op Hariri voor de HD Cube. Ik heb consequent gezegd dat achteraf zal blijken dat de moord op Hariri de initiele gebeurtenis was in een ontwikkelend oorlogs scenario,

Als zo'n oorlog uitbreekt ligt de nucleaire optie op tafel. Hariri zelf staat hier buiten, hij is vermoord met een politiek doel. Als je de info er op na leest was het duidelijk dat hij vermoord werd om Syrie de schuld te geven en als je het HDDesign materiaal gelezen hebt dat weet je dat Syrie waarschijnlijk niet achter deze aanslag zit. De UN heeft een speciaal tribunaal in het leven geroepen om de schuldigen te straffen en binnenkort zijn daar ontwikkelingen in te verwachten. Het moge duidelijk zijn dat de situatie rond de moord op Hariri inmiddels explosief te noemen is met de mogelijke beschuldiging aan het adres van ( door Iran gesteende ) Hezbollah en de claim dat de Israeli's achter de aanslag zaten. Wat te denken van Bush? Die wist meteen te roepen dat Assad het gedaan had........

Doel van deze aandacht voor de zaak Hariri is om te voorkomen dat er inderdaad een high-impact oorlog uitbreekt, maar dat het karma een subtielere weg vind tot uitdrukking.
Dutch.maandag 30 augustus 2010 @ 13:47
quote:
Op vrijdag 27 augustus 2010 14:14 schreef Maurice76 het volgende:
Bovendien heb je ook meermalen een waarschuwing geuit, dat de mens uit de ruimte moet blijven en van nucleaire energie moet afblijven. Waar baseer je dat dan op? Ja, Tunguska was inderdaad letterlijk en figuurlijk een behoorlijke smak en ja, nucleaire energie e.d. zijn gevaarlijk ... maar is je conclusie dat we dan maar niet de ruimte in moeten (en er niet eens aan moeten denken) niet ver gezocht? Ik bedoel, ik zou het juist als reden zien om het omgekeerde te doen: vandaag of morgen komt er zo'n knaller op onze planeet, dat we maar beter de mogelijkheid hebben om van deze rost af te (kunnen) zijn. Met andere woorden, ik zou op basis van deze dingen juist zeggen, vaart maken met het ruimtevaart programma!
Ik heb het over het misbruik van nucleaire kracht, omdat onbekend is wat een nucleaire explosie voor invloed heeft op bewustzijn en op andere dimensionele realiteiten. Tunguska was een waarschuwing, direct en intelligent gekoppeld aan Hirhoshima/Nagasaki en de impact op komeet temple 1. Dat zijn de rode lijnen waar we overheen gestapt zijn. Vind je dat wij kosmisch gezien voldoende geevolueerd zijn om andere planeten met ons bezoek te vereren? Ons bewustzijn is gekoppeld aan dat van de aarde, we moeten het hier oplossen.
Bredemugzaterdag 4 september 2010 @ 22:40
Aah Dutch wat ben ik toch verbaasd jou hier te zien (not)

Je post dezelfde onzin van je op tig andere forums, je was zelfs banned op sommige forums.
Wat hoop je hier mee te bereiken? Je bent hier al zoveel jaren mee bezig.

Het is algemeen bekend dat jij problemen hebt met communiceren.

Je hoeft alleen maar ''Hyper Dimensional Design'' te typen in google en de forums langs te gaan. Meer woorden hoef je er niet echt aan vuil te maken.

''Dutch creates his own reality, and calls that "our reality".'' Beter kon ik het niet zeggen,

Een goede tip voor de fokkers die meer willen weten over Dutch zijn mentaliteit;

http://forums.randi.org/s(...)d24e&t=75565&page=82

en http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=6553.0
Handschoenzondag 5 september 2010 @ 15:39
quote:
Op zaterdag 4 september 2010 22:40 schreef Bredemug het volgende:
Aah Dutch wat ben ik toch verbaasd jou hier te zien (not)

Je post dezelfde onzin van je op tig andere forums, je was zelfs banned op sommige forums.
Wat hoop je hier mee te bereiken? Je bent hier al zoveel jaren mee bezig.

Het is algemeen bekend dat jij problemen hebt met communiceren.

Je hoeft alleen maar ''Hyper Dimensional Design'' te typen in google en de forums langs te gaan. Meer woorden hoef je er niet echt aan vuil te maken.

''Dutch creates his own reality, and calls that "our reality".'' Beter kon ik het niet zeggen,

Een goede tip voor de fokkers die meer willen weten over Dutch zijn mentaliteit;

http://forums.randi.org/s(...)d24e&t=75565&page=82

en http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=6553.0
Heb je er last van?? Je hoeft niet op dit topic te klikken... Het staat hier toch prima in deze catagorie?? Wat win jij er nu mee om Dutch hier af te kraken :')
Bredemugzondag 5 september 2010 @ 16:04
quote:
Op zondag 5 september 2010 15:39 schreef Handschoen het volgende:

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Heb je er last van?? Je hoeft niet op dit topic te klikken... Het staat hier toch prima in deze catagorie?? Wat win jij er nu mee om Dutch hier af te kraken :')
Heb jij last van mijn post dan?

Mijn reply was bestemd voor fokkers die meer willen weten over Dutch zijn hele Hyper dimensional gedoe, er zit veel geschiedenis achter en mensen horen dat te weten voordat ze iets gaan geloven.
Trippiizondag 5 september 2010 @ 19:36
quote:
Op zaterdag 4 september 2010 22:40 schreef Bredemug het volgende:Je post dezelfde onzin van je op tig andere forums, je was zelfs banned op sommige forums.
Wat hoop je hier mee te bereiken? Je bent hier al zoveel jaren mee bezig.

''Dutch creates his own reality, and calls that "our reality".'' Beter kon ik het niet zeggen,
En wat jij post is jou realiteit toch? Hebben we niet allemaal een eigen realiteit?

Als vanuit Dutch zijn perspectief dit 'onze realiteit' is, wat is er dan zo gek aan als hij dit zo verwoord? Het is eerder gek om te zien dat jij je er zo druk om maakt.
Bredemugzondag 5 september 2010 @ 21:22
quote:
Op zondag 5 september 2010 19:36 schreef Trippii het volgende:

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En wat jij post is jou realiteit toch? Hebben we niet allemaal een eigen realiteit?

Als vanuit Dutch zijn perspectief dit 'onze realiteit' is, wat is er dan zo gek aan als hij dit zo verwoord? Het is eerder gek om te zien dat jij je er zo druk om maakt.
Klopt, iedereen heeft zo zijn eigen realiteit, de een steekt liever zijn kop in het zand en de ander wilt alles weten.

quote:
wat is er dan zo gek aan als hij dit zo verwoord?
Er zijn mensen die alles gelijk geloven, als iemand een idee heeft wat gebaseerd is op subjectieve interpretaties en dat dan vervolgens verdedigt als objectief en met dat mensen probeert te overtuigen, dan maak ik me daar druk om ja.

Volgens jou is dat dus raar? Onder wat voor categorie valt kritisch denken bij jou? Ook als raar? |:(
Dutch.maandag 6 september 2010 @ 23:13
Ik heb nu geen tijd voor jou bredemug, dat komt later wel. first things first:

During Pi-point Steins timeframe around September 5, 2010, I had this intuitive thought while at work.
I had to work it out so it took some time to post it.

I expected somekind of a 'confirmation' of this Pi-based Design as described here in the HDDesign material. This Pi-based Design unveiled that asteroid Stein's orbit is encoded in Earth's orbit based on Pi, indicating that Stein's orbit is intelligently determined.

This very same Design was also applied with spacecraft Deep Impact/Epoxi comet encounters and other major events in our solar system as explained here:

http://hddesign.forumup.n(...)forum=hddesign#10246

As I suspect that there will also occur developments that will indicate that Mars' moon Phobos is infact artificial, I had this thought earlier today to apply this very same Pi based design on the orbit of Phobos.

The real orbital period of Phobos is 0,3189102 Earth days

If we apply this Pi based design as determined here in the HDDesign material we get:

0,3189102 x Pi x Pi = ......................

Pi !!!!!!!!

...............almost Pi, because Pi / Pi /Pi =0,3183098

This is so very close to expressing Pi, in the very same way as already shown here with the orbit of Steins, Deep Impact comet encounters etc, that it can't be just a coincidence. It shows up just like that after an intuitive thought.

In fact the perfect expression of Pi with the orbit of Phobos is so close that the difference is even less than a minute. 51,87 seconds to be precise,based on available info.

It is known that Phobos has an orbital decay. According to a mainstream space agency, the ESA:

quote:
This tiny moon is thought to be in a ‘death spiral’, slowly orbiting toward the surface of Mars. Here, Phobos was found to be about five kilometres ahead of its predicted orbital position. This could be an indication of an increased orbital speed associated with its secular acceleration, causing the moon to spiral in toward Mars.

Eventually Phobos could be torn apart by Martian gravity and become a short-lived ring around Mars, or even impact on the surface. This orbit will be studied in more detail over the lifetime of the Mars Express.
http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/Mars_Express/SEM21TVJD1E_0.html

The orbital speed of Phobos is about 2.138 km/s so with this 5 kilometer deviation with the calculated position, Phobos is already 5 / 2.138 = aprox 2,34 seconds closing in on the perfect Pi expression.

That means that Phobos isn't only orbitting in an intelligently determined orbit, but that Phobos is in fact telling us that there's a specific future point in time that Phobos will express the Perfect Pi.

The orbit of Phobos is showing us a countdown which we can determine.

Now I am not a scientist nor do I have the proper data to do this, but I'm calling those who are able to do so to determine the exact moment in the near future that Phobos will have closed the gap of these less than 50 seconds so that the orbit of Phobos is expressing the perfect PI.
Maurice76dinsdag 7 september 2010 @ 00:31
quote:
Op maandag 6 september 2010 23:13 schreef Dutch. het volgende:
If we apply this Pi based design as determined here in the HDDesign material we get:

0,3189102 x Pi x Pi = ......................

Pi !!!!!!!!

...............almost Pi, because Pi / Pi /Pi =0,3183098
You could also just state that the orbital period is just 1/Pi earth days. Or, that Pi number of orbits fit in 24 hours of our earth-based timescale.

To be honest, I think it's coincidence, since the 24 hour clock is the rotation period of our planet (and not the orbital period of it). It's like comparing apples to oranges.

Oh, and for the curious: the destruction of Phobos by gravitational pull from Mars isn't scheduled to occur yet for another 6.7 million years at the very least.
Dutch.dinsdag 7 september 2010 @ 10:30
Maurice.......het is niet een countdown tot de destructie van Phobos, maar een countdown naar een specifiek punt in onze babije toekomst in relatie tot onze eigen bestemming. De orbit van Phobos is intelligent ontworpen en fungeert als een tijdsmarker voor degenen die het kunnen observeren: wij dus. Het is precies hetzelfde onderliggende Design als met Steins, Deep Impact de maan impacts etc..

Voor mij is het onvoorstelbaar dat mensen hier niet verbaasd over zijn.....

Een intuitief idee dat gelijk bevestigd wordt.............

'as above - so below'

hier iets dat duidelijk maakt dat HDDesign inderdaad 'echt' kan zijn:

This article clearly shows that the increasing scientific understanding of quantum mechanics is opening the door for the implications of this HDDesign 'research' to be valid.

a must read:

Back From the Future

A series of quantum experiments shows that measurements performed in the future can influence the present. Does that mean the universe has a destiny—and the laws of physics pull us inexorably toward our prewritten fate?
http://discovermagazine.c(...)laksen&b_start:int=0
sir_Tachyondinsdag 7 september 2010 @ 10:41
quote:
Op dinsdag 7 september 2010 10:30 schreef Dutch. het volgende:
Maurice.......het is niet een countdown tot de destructie van Phobos, maar een countdown naar een specifiek punt in onze babije toekomst in relatie tot onze eigen bestemming. De orbit van Phobos is intelligent ontworpen en fungeert als een tijdsmarker voor degenen die het kunnen observeren: wij dus. Het is precies hetzelfde onderliggende Design als met Steins, Deep Impact de maan impacts etc..

Kun je intelligent ontworpen iets verder toelichten? Doel je hier op dat iemand zo gemaakt heeft ( een god, wezens uit een andere dimensie? ). Ik ben het met je eens dat het geweldig is dat zoveel dingen te berekenen zijn en dat alles met elkaar gerelateerd is. Ik kan alle dingen die je post niet allemaal onthouden dus vergeef me als je dit al had uitgelegd maar wat heeft de einde van de maan van Mars te maken met onze eigen bestemming?
Dutch.dinsdag 7 september 2010 @ 12:34
quote:
Op zaterdag 4 september 2010 22:40 schreef Bredemug het volgende:
Aah Dutch wat ben ik toch verbaasd jou hier te zien (not)

Je post dezelfde onzin van je op tig andere forums, je was zelfs banned op sommige forums.
Wat hoop je hier mee te bereiken? Je bent hier al zoveel jaren mee bezig.

Het is algemeen bekend dat jij problemen hebt met communiceren.

Je hoeft alleen maar ''Hyper Dimensional Design'' te typen in google en de forums langs te gaan. Meer woorden hoef je er niet echt aan vuil te maken.

''Dutch creates his own reality, and calls that "our reality".'' Beter kon ik het niet zeggen,

Een goede tip voor de fokkers die meer willen weten over Dutch zijn mentaliteit;

http://forums.randi.org/s(...)d24e&t=75565&page=82

en http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=6553.0
Ik zou het op prijs stellen als je jouw manier van communiceren verrijkt met inhoudelijke kritiek.

Op de eerste link die je geeft kan je zien dat er een paar posters zijn die proberen mij onderuit te halen maar daar niet in slagen ( zoals nergens ). De 2e link is naar een site die ik niet kan aanbevelen,

De forums waar ik op post staan vermeld op het HDDesign forum. Niets nieuws onder de zon dus.
Dutch.dinsdag 7 september 2010 @ 12:56
quote:
Op dinsdag 7 september 2010 10:41 schreef sir_Tachyon het volgende:

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Kun je intelligent ontworpen iets verder toelichten? Doel je hier op dat iemand zo gemaakt heeft ( een god, wezens uit een andere dimensie? ). Ik ben het met je eens dat het geweldig is dat zoveel dingen te berekenen zijn en dat alles met elkaar gerelateerd is. Ik kan alle dingen die je post niet allemaal onthouden dus vergeef me als je dit al had uitgelegd maar wat heeft de einde van de maan van Mars te maken met onze eigen bestemming?
Dit is een interessante vraag omdat er verschillende antwoorden op mogelijk zijn die allemaal impliceren dat er veel meer aan de hand is in onze realiteit dan dat wij ons bewust zijn.
In geval van Steins en Phobos kan het bijvoorbeeld zijn dat zij overblijfselen zijn van andere veel oudere beschavingen, afhankelijk van het moment dat zij in deze intelligente omloop terecht kwamen. Dit impliceert dat wij niet de enige zijn die intelligent leven in dit universum vorm geven. In het geval van de door NASA geinitieerde 'communicatie' gebaseerd op ditzelfde onderliggende ontwerp zou het kunnen impliceren dat NASA nog steeds 'communiceert' dmv activitieten in ons zonnestelsel. Dat kan 'communicatie' zijn met intelligentie in onze eigen dimensie maar het kan ook inter-dimensioneel zijn. De vraag is echter of dit bewust of onbewust gebeurd. Aangezien HDDesign gebaseerd is op 'zo boven - zo beneden' principes waarbij ons gehele zonnestelsel in feite een reflectie van ons bewustzijn is, ben ik geneigd dat deze 'communicatie' onbewust plaats vind. Alles wat hier in onze realiteit gebeurd, inclusief eventuele expressies van buitenaards leven, is in principe een ultieme expressie geinitieerd uit 'hogere' of 'andere' dimensies dan de ons bekende 3D realiteit.
Phobos spreekt al sinds de ontdekking tot de verbeelding. Los van de indicaties dat Phobos hol zou kunnen zijn met geometrische constructies die wijzen op kunstmatigheid, blijkt nu ook opeens 'out of the blue' dat de orbit van Phobos ook intelligent bepaald lijkt te zijn, op dezelfde manier als Stein en de Deep Impact ruimte missies. Ik denk dat Phobos een tijdsmarkering in de omloop heeft en als we weten wanneer die ultime Pi expressie bereikt wordt, dan kunnen we dmv toepassing van HDDesign wellicht ook meer te weten komen over WAT er dan te verwachten is. ( of wellicht wat er in een ver verleden gebeurd is met Mars)
Dutch.dinsdag 7 september 2010 @ 13:01
quote:
Op zondag 5 september 2010 16:04 schreef Bredemug het volgende:

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Heb jij last van mijn post dan?

Mijn reply was bestemd voor fokkers die meer willen weten over Dutch zijn hele Hyper dimensional gedoe, er zit veel geschiedenis achter en mensen horen dat te weten voordat ze iets gaan geloven.
Er zit zelfs alle geschiedenis achter
sir_Tachyondinsdag 7 september 2010 @ 13:50
quote:
Op dinsdag 7 september 2010 12:56 schreef Dutch. het volgende:

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Dit is een interessante vraag omdat er verschillende antwoorden op mogelijk zijn die allemaal impliceren dat er veel meer aan de hand is in onze realiteit dan dat wij ons bewust zijn.
In geval van Steins en Phobos kan het bijvoorbeeld zijn dat zij overblijfselen zijn van andere veel oudere beschavingen, afhankelijk van het moment dat zij in deze intelligente omloop terecht kwamen. Dit impliceert dat wij niet de enige zijn die intelligent leven in dit universum vorm geven. In het geval van de door NASA geinitieerde 'communicatie' gebaseerd op ditzelfde onderliggende ontwerp zou het kunnen impliceren dat NASA nog steeds 'communiceert' dmv activitieten in ons zonnestelsel. Dat kan 'communicatie' zijn met intelligentie in onze eigen dimensie maar het kan ook inter-dimensioneel zijn. De vraag is echter of dit bewust of onbewust gebeurd. Aangezien HDDesign gebaseerd is op 'zo boven - zo beneden' principes waarbij ons gehele zonnestelsel in feite een reflectie van ons bewustzijn is, ben ik geneigd dat deze 'communicatie' onbewust plaats vind. Alles wat hier in onze realiteit gebeurd, inclusief eventuele expressies van buitenaards leven, is in principe een ultieme expressie geinitieerd uit 'hogere' of 'andere' dimensies dan de ons bekende 3D realiteit.
Phobos spreekt al sinds de ontdekking tot de verbeelding. Los van de indicaties dat Phobos hol zou kunnen zijn met geometrische constructies die wijzen op kunstmatigheid, blijkt nu ook opeens 'out of the blue' dat de orbit van Phobos ook intelligent bepaald lijkt te zijn, op dezelfde manier als Stein en de Deep Impact ruimte missies. Ik denk dat Phobos een tijdsmarkering in de omloop heeft en als we weten wanneer die ultime Pi expressie bereikt wordt, dan kunnen we dmv toepassing van HDDesign wellicht ook meer te weten komen over WAT er dan te verwachten is. ( of wellicht wat er in een ver verleden gebeurd is met Mars)
En heb je ook enige aanwijzingen in welke staat Mars was? Met bevolking zoals die van ons? Of stukken verder ontwikkeld? Zijn ze gewoon niet ge-emigreerd naar de aarde? Ik doe alleen maar wat wilde gokken hoor. Alhoewel ik wel eens een boek heb gelezen waar de Martianen in voorkwamen van Drunvalo Melchezidek. Ken je die? Die heeft ook heel veel met Geometrie (voor de Flower of Life ). Alleen past hij niet de geometrie toe op data/tijdstippen en gebeurtenissen.
Dutch.dinsdag 7 september 2010 @ 22:09
nee ik ken het werk van Drunvalo Melchezidek niet.

leven op Mars is 'hot', zeker in deze huiduge tijd waarin het 'contact' thema expressie vind. Zelfs mainstream heeft het erover:

BBC gisteren: Mars may not be lifeless, say scientists
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-11201699

Ik weet het niet........

hoe zou de aarde er over 100.000 jaar na een ELE uitzien?

Is ons bestaan direct gerelateerd aan Mars?

Het is te vroeg om te zeggen, maar 'leven op Mars' komt veelvuldig naar voren in het HDDesign materiaal.
De tijd zal het leren
Dutch.woensdag 22 september 2010 @ 22:44
quote:
During Pi-point Steins timeframe around September 5, 2010, I had this intuitive thought while at work.
I had to work it out so it took some time to post it.

I expected somekind of a 'confirmation' of this Pi-based Design as described here in the HDDesign material. This Pi-based Design unveiled that asteroid Stein's orbit is encoded in Earth's orbit based on Pi, indicating that Stein's orbit is intelligently determined.

This very same Design was also applied with spacecraft Deep Impact/Epoxi comet encounters and other major events in our solar system as explained here:

http://hddesign.forumup.n(...)forum=hddesign#10246

As I suspect that there will also occur developments that will indicate that Mars' moon Phobos is infact artificial, I had this thought yesterday to apply this very same Pi based design on the orbit of Phobos.

The real orbital period of Phobos is 0,3189102 Earth days

If we apply this Pi based design as determined here in the HDDesign material we get:

0,3189102 x Pi x Pi = ......................

[size=18] PI[/size]

...............almost Pi, because Pi / Pi /Pi =0,3183098

This is so very close to expressing Pi, in the very same way as already shown here with the orbit of Steins, Deep Impact comet encounters etc, that it can't be just a coincidence. It shows up just like that after an intuitive thought.

In fact the perfect expression of Pi with the orbit of Phobos is so close that the difference is even less than a minute. 51,87 seconds to be precise,based on available info.

It is known that Phobos has an orbital decay. According to a mainstream space agency, the ESA:

[quote]This tiny moon is thought to be in a ‘death spiral’, slowly orbiting toward the surface of Mars. Here, Phobos was found to be about five kilometres ahead of its predicted orbital position. This could be an indication of an increased orbital speed associated with its secular acceleration, causing the moon to spiral in toward Mars.

Eventually Phobos could be torn apart by Martian gravity and become a short-lived ring around Mars, or even impact on the surface. This orbit will be studied in more detail over the lifetime of the Mars Express.
http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/Mars_Express/SEM21TVJD1E_0.html

The orbital speed of Phobos is about 2.138 km/s so with this 5 kilometer deviation with the calculated position, Phobos is already 5 / 2.138 = aprox 2,34 seconds closing in on the perfect Pi expression.

That means that Phobos isn't only orbitting in an intelligently determined orbit, but that Phobos is in fact telling us that there's a specific future point in time that Phobos will express the Perfect Pi.

The orbit of Phobos is showing us a countdown which we can determine.

Now I am not a scientist nor do I have the proper data to do this, but I'm calling those who are able to do so to determine the exact moment in the near future that Phobos will have closed the gap of these less than 50 seconds so that the orbit of Phobos is expressing the perfect PI.[/quote]

New astrometric observations of Phobos with the SRC on Mars Express

K. Willner, J. Oberst, M. Wählisch, K.-D. Matz, H. Hoffmann, T. Roatsch, R. Jaumann, and V. Mertens

German Aerospace Center, Institute of Planetary Research, Planetary Geodesy, Rutherfordstrasse 2, 12489 Berlin, Germany
e-mail: konrad.willner@dlr.de

Received 17 March 2008 / Accepted 20 May 2008

Abstract
Aims. New astrometric measurements for Phobos are reported on the basis of 69 SRC (Super Resolution Channel) images obtained during 28 Mars Express Phobos flybys executed between 2004 and 2007.
Methods. The measurements have been made using a newly developed technique that involves positional measurements of surface control points and verification of camera pointing by background stars.
Results. The astrometric positions are in excellent agreement with currently available Phobos orbit models. However, we find remaining systematic offsets of 1.5-2.6 km such that Phobos is ahead of its predicted position along the track.Conclusions. Our observations will be a basis for further improvements in the Phobos ephemeris. The methods that we have developed will be useful for the astrometric tracking of planetary or asteroidal targets and spacecraft optical navigation in future planetary missions.


http://www.aanda.org/inde(...)a09787-08.right.html

(„Phobos ahead of its predicted orbital position by approx. 1 radius“,Bell, Duxbury, et al., Nature")

HRSC/SRC Imaging Results fromthe Phobos and Deimos Flybys

Results:

Phobos estimated to be off from its nominal orbitposition by 6 s (approx. 12 km) along-track

http://webcache.googleuse(...)&hl=nl&ct=clnk&gl=nl

Used Orbital period in this scientific artical: (days)0.31910

According to wiki 'current' orbital period of Phobos is 0,3189102 Earth days

That's a gap of 16,39 seconds !!!!!!!

Phobos is nearing the Perfect Pi expression

Phobos is at countdown

At another forum someone provided me with info about this decreasing orbital period of Phobos that , when extrapolated, suggested that Phobos would reach the perfect Pi expression with the orbital period on December 18, 2012. Based on the data provided by this poster.

That would mean Phobos is marking the end of the Mayan Calendar.

I don't trust the info given by this poster because I think he just wanted to mislead me, but it is an interesting thought.

With such deviations in the orbital period of Phobos it IS a possibility

Additional information and confirmation is needed in order to determine when Phobos will reach the Perfect Pi.

Let's hope the analysis of the recent Phobos flyby's will shine a light on it
Dutch.vrijdag 8 oktober 2010 @ 13:40
On May 29, 2008 NASA’s Deep Impact / Epoxi spacecraft created a video of the moon transiting ( passing in front of ) Earth as seen from the spacecraft’s point of view. Scientists are using the video to develop techniques to study alien worlds.

"Making a video of Earth from so far away helps the search for other life-bearing planets in the Universe by giving insights into how a distant, Earth-like alien world would appear to us," said University of Maryland astronomer Michael A’Hearn, principal investigator for the Deep Impact extended mission, called EPOXI.

Here we already see this ‘contact’ theme emerging, as will become clearer with the already identified and shared Pi- based expressions in the HDDesign material. As I understand that it’s for most readers a bridge too far to fully comprehend these ‘expressions’ in the right context, I will try to summarize and elaborate on the already posted material.

Deep Impact made history when the mission team directed an impactor from the spacecraft into comet Tempel 1 on July 4, 2005. NASA extended the mission, redirecting the spacecraft for a flyby of comet Hartley 2 on Nov. 4, 2010.

Its beyond the scope of this post to elaborate on the implications of the impact on comet Temple I, in its relation to the Tunguska Events and the use of nuclear weapons, that has already been covered in the HDDesign material.

Around the same time of this Deep Impact/Epoxi –Moon- Earth ( artificial) transit a crop circle appeared in Barbury Castle, expressing Pi rounding up to 10 decimal places.

http://img.photobucket.co(...)ryGraphOverlayLo.jpg

mind boggling indeed.

According to the triggerdate system as identified and applied in the HDDesign material ( and in the HDDesign material only), this Deep Impact/Epoxi – Moon – Earth Transit happened exactly at ‘Ascension starttrigger date’ in relation to the end of the Mayan Long Count calendar. Without fully explaining the ‘ascension timeframe’ here, as it is done elsewhere in the HDDesign material, its sufficient to know that the Ascension timeframe is a 3333 days timeframe with a monitored events day in the middle ( end of Mayan calendar ) and a startdate 1666 days earlier ( Deep Impact – Moon Earth Transit).

Keep in mind that all this info initially emerged by intuitive thoughts and syncronicities.
The 3333 days Ascension timeframe and Pi seemed to be connected in the hidden underlying Design of these described events but another ‘confirmation’ really made me alert of the possible profoundness of what was to about to unveil. I decided to devide the ascension timeframe with Pi and it appeared that the outcome was exactly the timeframe between Deep Impact/Epoxi’s impact on comet Temple I and the Deep Impact – Moon- Earth transit: 1060 days, indicating that the latter was intelligently planned to take place at this specific moment in our perception of time, be it consciously or sub-consciously but unveiling the hidden underlying Design nevertheless. Pi in relation to Earth days is the ‘language’ used in the ‘communication’ that is taking place.

As most readers probably know, Deep Impact/Epoxi is heading to a flyby next month with comet Hartley 2 on November 4, 2010. When NASA extended the Epoxi mission, they initially said that the encounter with comet Hartley 2 would take place on October 11, 2010 instead of November 4, 2010. Why is that? What was NASA trying to say by communicating this comet encounter on October 11, 2010 while it would never take place on that day?
The answer is that NASA communicated it this way because its part of the communication that is taking place, consciously or sub-consciously. I intuitively expected a Pi based correlation with our perception of time and that’s exactly what showed up instantly when I gave the timeframes a closer look.

Let me explain

How do you express Pi with 3 events based on our perception of time?

The events are known: Deep impact on comet Temple I on July 4, 2005, de Deep Impact – Moon – Earth transit on May 29, 2008 and the scheduled or communicated comet encounter with Hartley 2 on October 11, 2010.
The timeframe between impact on Temple I and the transit of 1060 days was already identified as Pi based. The ‘hypothetical’ encounter with Hartley 2 had to be scheduled in a way to express Pi. In order to do so we have to split the timeframe between impact on comet Temple I and ‘hypothetical’ encounter with Hartley 2 in 2 timeframes that express Pi, with 1 of them already marked by the Deep Impact –Moon- earth transit ( 1060 days ).

It showed up instantly:

Deep Impact on comet Temple I - ‘hypothetical’ encounter with Hartley 2 = 1925 days

1925 / Pi / Pi = 195 days
1925 minus 195 = 1730 days
1730 / 2 = 865 days, marking Pi
865 + 195 days = 1060 days, marking Pi
865 + 1060 is of course 1925 again.

With the impact on comet Temple I and the Deep Impact/Epoxi – moon- Earth tansit as facts, Pi is only unveiled this way with a hypothetical encounter on October 11, 2010.

An encounter that is expressing Pi in our perception of time that was communicated by NASA but would never take place!

Consider this for a while.

Pi and our perception of time

The example above is applied to 3 events but you can also apply the same Pi based principle on for instance an orbit, as we have seen with the orbit of asteroid Steins, indicating that Steins has an Intelligently Designed orbit.

Steins orbit is 1326,736 Earth days

1326,7 / Pi / Pi = 134.4 Earth days

1327,7 - 134,4 = 1192,3 Earth days

The 2 Pi points are

1192,3 / 2 = 596,2 Days

and

596,1 +134, 4 = 730,5 Earth days

That’s exactly 2 Earth Years or the same orbital position of Earth.

Or in other words: Earth's orbit is encoded in Steins orbit by Pi

After the flyby of 'asteroid' Steins the Rosetta spacecraft continued its mission and next event on its mission was an Earth flyby on its way towards asteroid Lutetia.

This Earth flyby happened on November 13, 2009 and was the last of 4 planet flyby's of rosetta spacecraft.

The previous flyby ( the third) happened on November 13, 2007!!!!

exactly 2 Earth years!!!!

Rosetta is confirming this Intelligent Pi based correlation between Earth and Stein's orbits right after its encounter with Steins by an Earth Flyby exactly 2 years later than the previous one, exactly the same timeframe as based on the Pi point of Steins' orbit.

This is the same Pi based Design as with the Deep Impact/Epoxi mission and the lunar impact mission, as identified and explained in the HDDesign material with previous posts.

With these 'manmade' events in space as expressed with rosetta spacecraft, we are 'communicating' that the Intelligent correlations with Earth in relation to Steins are understood.

Its so obvious and clear....and its shows up in the HDDesign material just like that, instantly after an initial synchronicity....again showing that 'we' are 'communicating' with our current missions in space based on the same identified Geometry as with the Deep Impact and Lunar Impact missions ( Lunar Impact missions are explained in separate posts ).

Pi and our perception of time

During this predetermined Pi point Steins an intuitive thought made me apply this very Pi based Design on the orbit of Mars’ moon Phobos.

The real orbital period of Phobos is 0,3189102 Earth days

If we apply this Pi based design as determined here in the HDDesign material we get:

0,3189102 x Pi x Pi = Pi.............

or

...............almost Pi, because Pi / Pi /Pi =0,3183098

This is so very close to expressing Pi, in the very same way as already shown here with the orbit of Steins, Deep Impact comet encounters etc, that it can't be just a coincidence. It shows up just like that after an intuitive thought.

In fact the perfect expression of Pi with the orbit of Phobos is so close that the difference is even less than a minute. 51,87 seconds to be precise, based on currently available info.

It is known that Phobos has an orbital decay. According to a mainstream space agency, the ESA, Phobos was ahead of its predicted position, possibly indicating that Phobos is speading up and together with the orbital decay the orbital period of Phobos is closing in on this Perfect Pi expression rapidly and just less than a minute or perhaps even seconds away.

That means that Phobos is on a countdown

We are still talking about the underlying ‘contact’ theme here, the major theme of the Q3 timeline in the HDdesign material
http://hddesign.forumup.n(...)forum=hddesign#11838

We better get used to the idea.

mainstream, CNN:

'100 percent' life chance on new planet

( yes, the headline on the mainpage of CNN is without the question mark / Dutch )

http://news.blogs.cnn.com(...)found-planet/?hpt=T2
Boswachtertjevrijdag 8 oktober 2010 @ 20:22
Puike info Dutch!
Ik blijf dit met veel interesse volgen ^O^
Maurice76zaterdag 9 oktober 2010 @ 00:43
Als de orbit van Phobos op een countdown is ... is het mogelijk om uit te rekenen wanneer het moment is van "time's up!"? En zo ja, wanneer is dat moment dan?
Dutch.zaterdag 9 oktober 2010 @ 21:31
Dat zou ik heel graag willen weten. Mars express is daar nog voorlopig en ik verwacht dat er meer gegevens bekend gemaakt gaan worden m.b.t. de afwijkingen in de omloop van Phobos.

Kijk, de omloop wordt normaal gesproken vaak weergegeven in uren en minuten, maar in dit geval gaat het dus juist om de seconden. We zitten al in de laatste minuut van de nadering tot Pi

Het is onmogelijk om dit zelf te doen, ik heb ESA gemailed met het verzoek om meer info m.b.t. de juiste omloop van Phobos maar ik krijg tot nu toe nog geen antwoord.

Ik hou me zeker aanbevolen als iemand meer info gezien heeft over de juiste omloop van Phobos
Dutch.vrijdag 15 oktober 2010 @ 15:52
Inter–Dimensional Contact

Confirmation by Design


When intuition speaks……….


For practical reasons in the past, I have limited the timeframe around a determined events day to + or – 1 day, creating in fact a 3 days timeframe. I did so consistently from the beginning of this HDDesign ‘research’, but I have often said that this 3 days timeframe is way to rigid and should in fact be seen as a timeframe of a few days around a determined ‘peak’ date. On the timelines I use 3 days before and after a predetermined date, creating a 7 days timeframe.

While doing this HDDesign ‘research’ I have often noticed a 3 days difference (+ or -) between a predetermined events day and the actual ‘confirmation’ in our reality, there are numerous examples of this in the HDDesign material. This 7 days period of creation (as above – so below) is valid for each single moment in our perception of time. Imagine that you have knowledge about inter-dimensional existence and you have to explain this to an early human, you would probably explain it with a story similar to what has been told in Genesis for instance.

This HDDesign ‘research’ seems to indicate that there’s a hidden underlying Design in our reality, connecting all these single moments in our perception of time. The human mind seems to be able to tune in on this hidden underlying Design with intuitive thoughts and noticing synchronicities. This makes it possible to identify the hidden underlying time coded patterns and underlying themes, while the confirmations must show up instantly when the described elements of HDDesign are applied.

The Golden Mean (Phi) has been such an element from the start of this HDDesign ‘research’ and with the Deep Impact / Epoxi – Moon – Earth transit a new element emerged in the HDDesign material: Pi.
The Deep Impact / Epoxi space mission first unveiled the Pi based Design as explained here with previous posts. As we have seen here, this Pi based Design seems to unveil the most profound (hidden) underlying Design of the current times we live in.

Hyper Dimensional Cube timeframe around November 17, 2010 is coming up, a timeframe already identified years ago as one of the major timeframes in the Design of our times. I expect developments in relation to Yellowstone/mount St. Helens ( HD Cube at macro level) as I have already said years ago and I also expect to come with additional information after the 7 days timeframe of creation opens around November 14, 2010.

Another major timeframe is Earth’s recurring orbital position of the Grand cross around June 26. As I have specifically mentioned in advance: around June 26, 2010, June 26, 2011 or June 26, 2012.

Today I had this intuitive thought to consider these 2 major timeframes of around November 17, 2010 and around June 26, 2011 to be the 2 Pi – timeframes based on this very same Pi based Design as first unveiled by Deep Impact / Epoxi.

With these two Pi points the corresponding timeline starts around March 19, 2008, when Arthur C. Clarke has died ( ‘2010 – the year we make contact’ shows up on the timeline for Q3 2010) and this timeline will end around February 24, 2014.

This is based on Pi.

I found it interesting to see Arthur C. Clarke showing up here, because of his ‘contributions’ with the Inter-Dimensional Contact theme, but also because he died at the end of the 911 based Golden Mean time coded spiral 9/11-Madrid Bombings ( another major time coded pattern as unveiled here in the HDDesign material ).

Because of this link with this major Golden Mean time coded spiral I thought to determine both the Phi points too of this timeline, besides the already determined Pi points.
The instant confirmation as required in the ‘research’ instantly showed up: Both the Golden Mean Phi points were marking the same orbital position of Earth as the 2 Pi points: around June 26, 2010 (Grand Cross orbital position) and around November 17, 2011.

Confirmation by Design……..

3 of the 4 Pi & Phi points are in the future: around November 17, 2010, around June 26, 2011 and around November 17, 2011. Only this year’s orbital position of the Grand Cross around June 26, 2010 has already passed.

Let’s see if this timeframe around June 26, 2010 could give some kind of confirmation of this hidden underlying Design as first unveiled by the space mission Deep Impact/ Epoxi.

Fasten your seatbelt

The confirmation is instant and unmistaken……..

Spacecraft Deep Impact / Epoxi fly past Earth for the fifth and last time on its way to the mission's ultimate flyby, a close encounter with comet Hartley 2 in November!!! (Around November 4, 2010).

I recommend keeping an eye on the timeline during the times ahead. HD Tetrahedron around October 21 is coming up, with a possible first indication in relation to Yellowstone/Mount St. Helens, possibly becoming apparent as seismic activities above 60 degrees North latitude as an indication of a Hyper Dimensional ‘inwelling’ ( followed by a possible HD ‘outwelling’ around HD Cube timeframe November 17 at HD Cube location Yellowstone/Mount St. Helens ).

Additional information will probably follow once the anticipated timeframes are open.

Q4 2010 timeline October, November and December 2010
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about425-hddesign.html
Hyper Dimensional Design material
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/index.php?mforum=hddesign

PS: you don’t have to register; you can login as user ‘reader’ with password ‘reader’.
Dutch.woensdag 27 oktober 2010 @ 12:35
More than 2 and a half years ago ( March 20, 2008 ) I already posted that we could expect Earth change events to happen around Hyper Dimensional Tetrahedron timeframe around October 20, 2010, that are expressions in relation to the eruption of Mount St Helens and the Sumatra quake/Tsunami.

I wrote:

“It can very well be that we will experience a Hyper Dimensional 'inwelling' at HD Tetrahedron timeframe around October 20, 2010 and a Hyper Dimensional 'outwelling' at HD Cube timeframe around November 16, 2010.

Events to be expected are connected to the massive May 18, 1980 Mount St Helens eruption and the December 26, 2004 Sumatra quake / Tsunami”

Those who have been following this HDDesign material, know that a HD initiated ‘inwelling’ itself could materialize as a ‘seismic mark’ above 60 degrees North latitude and will be followed with the expected Earth change event a few days later.

This possible ‘inwelling marker’ happened on October 23, 2010, within the Hyper Dimensional Tetrahedron timeframe at macrolevel orientation:

I’ve logged in the HDDesign material on October 23, 2010:

“Hyper Dimensional 'inwelling' occurs above 60 degree North latitude

Magnitude mb 4.8
Region ICELAND REGION
Date time 2010-10-23 20:38:28.9 UTC
Location 63.61 N ; 23.61 W”

According to this HDDesign material, the expected Earth change expressions will follow within the next few days.

Pre-determined, I repeat:

Events to be expected are connected to the massive May 18, 1980 Mount St Helens eruption and the December 26, 2004 Sumatra quake / Tsunami

And that’s exactly what has happened:

Volcano puts Indonesian officials on high alert
http://edition.cnn.com/20(...)on/index.html?hpt=T2

7.5-magnitude quake strikes off Indonesian coast
http://edition.cnn.com/20(...)ke/index.html?hpt=T2

Death toll from 7.7-magnitude earthquake in Indonesia rises to 40, with at least 380 others missing, officials say.

4 dead, more than 100 missing after Indonesia quake
http://edition.cnn.com/20(...)ke/index.html?hpt=T2

Mount Merapi’s Swelling Signals Huge Eruption, Scientists Warn
http://www.thejakartaglob(...)ientists-warn/403039

Indonesia's Merapi Volcano Erupts
http://www.foxnews.com/sc(...)pi-volcano-eruption/

At least 112 dead, more than 500 missing after Indonesia quake
http://edition.cnn.com/20(...)ke/index.html?hpt=T1

Volcano erupts in Indonesia, forcing thousands to flee
http://edition.cnn.com/20(...)no/index.html?hpt=T2

According to this HDdesign material, this volcano eruption and the quake/tsunami are only the result of the HD ‘inwelling’, with a potential devastating ‘outwelling’ yet to come, around Hyper Dimensional Cube timeframe at macro level around November 16, 2010.

Keep your eyes at the timeline here
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about425-hddesign.html
you can login with ‘reader’ password ‘reader’
Jumparoundwoensdag 27 oktober 2010 @ 13:06
Hoi Dutch, je weet dat ik sceptisch tegenover veel van je posts sta, maar deze is wel freaking bizar!
jogywoensdag 27 oktober 2010 @ 14:14
Dutch, ben je enigszins bekend met de webbots?

Gaan op een hele andere manier te werk om schaduws van de toekomst op te vangen voor het vormgegeven wordt. Hun komende 'big thing' zit tussen 8 en 11 november wat wel in de buurt zit van jouw 16 november. Bij hun is het vermoeden dat de dollar kapot gaat en de rest van de economie met zich meesleurt en nog wat andere zaken volgens mij. Web Bots en 8/11 november 2010 (oktober #2 )
Jumparoundwoensdag 27 oktober 2010 @ 14:23
quote:
14s.gif Op woensdag 27 oktober 2010 14:14 schreef jogy het volgende:
Dutch, ben je enigszins bekend met de webbots?

Gaan op een hele andere manier te werk om schaduws van de toekomst op te vangen voor het vormgegeven wordt. Hun komende 'big thing' zit tussen 8 en 11 november wat wel in de buurt zit van jouw 16 november. Bij hun is het vermoeden dat de dollar kapot gaat en de rest van de economie met zich meesleurt en nog wat andere zaken volgens mij. Web Bots en 8/11 november 2010 (oktober #2 )
de webbots zijn nog vager dan dutch...
jogywoensdag 27 oktober 2010 @ 14:30
quote:
1s.gif Op woensdag 27 oktober 2010 14:23 schreef Jumparound het volgende:

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de webbots zijn nog vager dan dutch...
Ja maar dat is mijn guilty pleasure :@.
jogywoensdag 27 oktober 2010 @ 14:37
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