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quote:
Op vrijdag 9 oktober 2009 12:32 schreef Dutch. het volgende:
The message of this 'communication' should be clear

Tunguska is a warning

Human consciousness must remain Earthbound and we should not interfere with objects in space

we must not mess with nuclear power
Spijtig genoeg zal de mens pas leren als hij met zijn gezicht tegen een muur knalt ...
I understand how you feel. You see, it's all very clear to me now. The whole thing. It's wonderful.
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After I had written my previous post and crossposted it at several forums, I wanted the check the news about this moon impact so I want to space daily and guess what:

I wrote:
quote:
I suddenly had this thought while at work and decided to check.

I wanted to see if the Phi point between the 'incoming communication' Tunguska event on june 30, 1908 and this lunar landing on October 9, 2009 would give confirmation of the underlying Design.

June 30, 1908 - October 9, 2009 = 36.992 days

Phi point is at 36.992 / 1.61803399 = 22.862 days

we talk about the timeframe around February 2, 1971

a timeframe that showed another 'impact' on the moon:

On January 31, 1971 Apollo 14 (carrying astronauts Alan Shepard, Stuart Roosa, and Edgar Mitchell) lifts off on the third successful lunar landing mission. The Apollo 14 landed on the Moon on February 5, 1971.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_14
unbeleivable: there has been an actual impact too!!!!!

LRO Sees Apollo 14's Rocket Booster Impact Site

Oct 09, 2009
A distinctive crater about 35 meters (115 feet) in diameter was formed when the Apollo 14 Saturn IVB (upper stage) was intentionally impacted into the moon. The energy of the impact created small tremors that were measured by the seismometer placed on the Moon by Apollo 12 astronauts in 1969.



The crater in the center of this image was formed by Apollo 14's Saturn IVB booster. The booster was intentionally impacted into the lunar surface on Feb. 4, 1971. The impact caused a minor "moonquake" that scientists used to learn about the moon's interior structure. Seismometers placed on the surface by Apollo astronauts returned data on the tremor.
http://www.moondaily.com/(...)Impact_Site_999.html

Tunguska - Moon Impact - Moon Impact

connected by Phi point Golden Mean

unbelievable

fundamental truth

next in line of thought would be that the Tunguska event and the Apollo 11 first humans on the moon would show a related event in this 'communication' that is taking place, with the first humans on the moon at Phi point.

We talk about April 13-14, 2007:

A NASA Review Board finds that the Mars Global Surveyor stopped working in November 2006 due to computer programming errors.

The Mars Global Surveyor (MGS) was a US spacecraft developed by NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory and launched November 1996. It began the United States's return to Mars after a 10-year absence. It completed its primary mission in January 2001 and was in its third extended mission phase when, on November 2, 2006, the spacecraft failed to respond to messages and commands. A faint signal was detected three days later which indicated that the craft had gone into safe mode. All attempts to recontact the Mars Global Surveyor and resolve the problem failed. In January 2007 NASA officially ended the mission.

Mars Global Surveyor
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_Global_Surveyor

Panel Says Computer Error Felled Mars Orbiter

Published: April 14, 2007

Although it circled Mars longer than any other spacecraft, the Mars Global Surveyor did not die a death of old age last November, a review board assembled by NASA announced yesterday.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/14/science/space/14mars.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

The Mars Global Surveyor was taken out by Design with Earth around the same orbital position as during the launch, 10 years apart. Launched on November 7, 1996, last received message November 5, 2006.

Tunguska - humans on moon - loss of Mars Global Surveyor

the message should be clear: we must NOT go to Mars
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
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quote:
Tunguska - Moon Impact - Moon Impact

connected by Phi point Golden Mean
Besides the given correlations, I expected some 'Tunguska conditioning' around this moon impact too, around October 9

and here it is:

BBC mainstream:

Asteroid collision 'less likely'

8 October 2009

Refined calculations of the asteroid Apophis's path show it is far less likely smash into Earth in 2036 than was previously thought.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8296796.stm

linked to this article at the same page:

Dr Richard Crowther is head of the United Nations Near Earth Object (Neo) programme. He told the BBC News website: "Tunguska reminds us that these impact events have occurred in the relatively recent past.

"The surveys suggest that objects of this size are numerous enough to anticipate similar events in the relatively near future."

Many observers are concerned by what they regard as a lack of action to counter the threat posed by near-Earth asteroids.

California-based space advocacy group the Planetary Society recently awarded an Atlanta-based aerospace company $50,000 (£25,000) to design a spacecraft which could rendezvous with and track the path of the asteroid 99942 Apophis.

In 2029, this 270m-wide chunk of cosmic debris will closely approach the Earth - so close, in fact, it will be visible with the naked eye.

from:
Fire in the sky: Tunguska at 100
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7470283.stm
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
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There's something with this moon impact that needs further explanation.

I think you better read the previous posts again before you continue to read this posts, but of course you can do that later.

I have written about the Pi expression with the Deep Impact/Epoxi spacemission with this Moon - Earth transit as marker, the signifigance of this Moon -Earth transit, wich was in fact 'artificial' as it was caught on camera by the Deep Impact/ Epoxi spaceship.

I wrote about the October 9 Moon Impact:
quote:
First thought in relation to this Impact on the moon is of course the Deep Impact on comet Templ I on July 4, 2005.

July 4, 2005 - October 9, 2009 = 1.558 days

Phi point at 1.558 / 1,61803399 = 963 days

is February 21, 2008

with an impact in space:

U.S. Satellite Shootdown
http://www.spectrum.ieee.(...)own-the-inside-story
Sources: Navy to shoot down failed satellite Thursday February 21
http://www.cnn.com/2008/T(...)intercept/index.html
So we have 3 impacts in space, all manmade: Temple I, satellite and Moon.

expressing the Golden Mean Phi

So now we have both Pi and Phi expressed in space in relation to the Deep Impact mission.

It should make you think why The Golden Mean is expressed this way. These 3 events are manmade so the communication is 'outgoing'.

This lunar impact is intelligently determined

the question is, is NASA doing this consciously and if so: to who are they talking than?
if NASA is doing this without intent, just 'by coincidence' expressing both Pi and Phi in space with this Deep Impact mission, than its an unmistaken indication of hidden underlying Design in our reality.

If the first is true than we have to understand that there has been an 'incoming' communication too expressing the Golden
Mean Phi in relation to Deep Impact: with these markers:
The use of nuclear weapons ( hirhoshima- Nagasaki) and the Tunguska event.

NASA's 'communication' with this lunar impact is either a rather 'violent'
message with these impacts in space or even 'hostile' if the 'communication' is consciously planned.
Remember that this Tunguska - the decision to use the atomic bomb - Deep Impact on comet Temple 1 was identified after the impact on comet Temple I, so that Tunguska was in fact marking the 2 biggest mistakes of mankind of these times. 'Tunguska' is the warning for these 2 mistakes, materialized 'in the past' of our limited 3D perception of time, beautifully expressed by the Golden Mean.

a few day later I added:
quote:
I suddenly had this thought while at work and decided to check.

I wanted to see if the Phi point between the 'incoming communication' Tunguska event on june 30, 1908 and this lunar landing on October 9, 2009 would give confirmation of the underlying Design.

June 30, 1908 - October 9, 2009 = 36.992 days

Phi point is at 36.992 / 1.61803399 = 22.862 days

we talk about the timeframe around February 2, 1971

a timeframe that showed another 'impact' on the moon:

On January 31, 1971 Apollo 14 (carrying astronauts Alan Shepard, Stuart Roosa, and Edgar Mitchell) lifts off on the third successful lunar landing mission. The Apollo 14 landed on the Moon on February 5, 1971.
later I found out that there has been an actual Impact on the moon too
during that timeframe, on February 4, 1971!
quote:
A distinctive crater about 35 meters (115 feet) in diameter was formed when the Apollo 14 Saturn IVB (upper stage) was intentionally impacted into the moon.
so we have these 2 Golden Mean Phi expressions marked by the Tunguska event:

Tunguska - nuclear bomb Hirhoshima/Nagasaki - Deep Impact on comet Temple I

and

Tunguska - Moon Impact - Moon Impact

I had to think about this because the first one seems to imply that the Tunguska event has happened on an intelligently designed moment in our perception of time in order to mark these other 2 events ( nuclear bomb and deep impact on comet Temple I) by the Golden Mean Phi.

I consider this to be an 'incoming communication'.

However, the second one also seems to imply that 'Tunguska' has happened in order to mark the 2 lunar impacts and this has been bothering me.

If you look at it than you will notice that only the lunar Impact on October 9, 2009 has happened after the impact on comet Temple I.

Its either all intelligently Designed and predetermined or the lunar impact on October 9, 2009 has been deliberately planned in order to express the given intelligent correlation via the Golden mean Phi, as an outgoing communication.

Its like NASA saying 'oke we made a mistake with the Deep Impact on comet Temple I and we understand the 'intelligent inter-dimensional communication' that is taking place." With this 'useless' moon Impact on October 9, 2009 Nasa is ´confirming´ that the Tunguska warning has been understood.

Wit this in mind I started to investigate a bit more, if the timing of the Lunar Impact on October 9, 2009 has been consciously planned by NASA, than this first identified Intelligent correlation between Deep Impact on comet Temple 1 and this lunar impact must also have been manipulated in order to express this very same Golden Mean correlation.
quote:
July 4, 2005 - October 9, 2009 = 1.558 days

Phi point at 1.558 / 1,61803399 = 963 days

is February 21, 2008

with an impact in space:

U.S. Satellite Shootdown
At this point I became very curious about this satellite shootdown again and I decided to check the enterprisemission of Richard Hoagland because he´s into this Hyper Dimensional Physics research aswell.
Unlike Hoaglands work, HDDesign is about applied HD ´elements´on our perception of time while Richard Hoagland has a completely diffrent approach.

Anyway, I checked his said yesterday and found what I was looking for:

Richard writes in his article `The Baffling NRO Satellite Shoot-Down … an In-Depth Enterprise Analysis`:

In this new article, however, we present additional technical and political information, crucial now for understanding why the preceding “official satellite story” may, in fact, have been nothing more than an elaborate, government charade all along -- designed to cover the real reasons for the “sudden, urgent shoot-down.”

°°snip°°

This involved the critical modification, again on an unprecedented crash basis, of three standard “SM-3 missiles” – converting them from their intended “anti-ballistic missile interception capability” to a very different “satellite interception mode.” Also created in record time was a tactical “shoot-down plan” (below) – forced by events to intercept and “kill” USA 193 within the most difficult technical “window” imaginable -- just before reentry (so the resulting impact debris and hydrazine would quickly burn up in the Earth’s upper atmosphere …).

~~snip~~

All in all, a pretty complete picture of “what” was coming back to Earth … and “why.”

But, nothing to shed light on the increasingly puzzling, ever more urgent mystery: “why was everyone in the US military establishment suddenly so worried about this satellite … and now?”

Knowing that “what goes up into low Earth orbit … must eventually come down,” why had the NRO, the Pentagon and White House WAITED over a year … before they suddenly became “all hot and bothered” by the imminent reentry of USA-193, now projected for “sometime in late February/early March, 2008?”

And—

Why hadn’t anyone informed them of the “~1000 pounds of hydrazine on board” -- inevitably coming (uncontrollably!) back to Earth -- when they first lost their satellite control, back in 2006?!

Even with all this supporting technical detail, “something” about this entire "falling satellite story" just didn’t … ring right.

~~snip~~

And all of which still didn’t begin to address the “sudden, almost panicked urgency” for shooting down this satellite … and in the face of serious, quantifiable risks to known humans (the ISS crew …) -- after over a year of everyone previously simply ignoring 193’s inevitable return … along with its “~1000 pounds of hydrazine.”

~~snip~~

“The Lie is Different … at Every Level.”

From the full spectrum of the mainstream analysis presented here, it should be clear at this point that the baffling “shoot-down” of NRO 193 has fully lived up to this revealing intel motto: because, in the final analysis, no one seems to have a clue as to the real reason for the inexplicable, contradictory White House/Pentagon/NASA actions or pronouncements over this extraordinary incident.

But, there is a reason for this ... a startling, ritual reason!

And, as we shall see in Part II, there is far more lurking behind this “inexplicable satellite emergency” than has been admitted by anyone so far -- by either the White House ... the Pentagon—

Or NASA.

And … surprise, surprise … it involves the Moon.

~~
I recommend to read thw whole article here:
http://www.enterprisemission.com/satellite-shoot-analysis.htm

Richard goes on:
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What caught our eye was not so much the real-world political implications of this technological muscle flexing, but rather the strange and ritualistic pattern under which it was being carried out.


The satellite shootdown was carried out during a total lunar eclipse
read article here:
http://www.enterprisemission.com/hdtest.htm

Part II of his artcle has yet to be published.

So with this ´disappointing´ lunar Impact on October 9, 2009 and this satellite shootdown NASA is Intelligently interdimensionally communicating!
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
  woensdag 21 oktober 2009 @ 23:45:25 #106
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Wat is dit voor topic? Niet eens een normale Nederlandse OP en alleen maar nietszeggende gekopieerde lappen Engelse tekst? Doe een een voorspelling dan dan controleren wij of het uitkomt. (ofzoiets blijkbaar kun je voorspellen)
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  donderdag 22 oktober 2009 @ 09:07:34 #107
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quote:
Op woensdag 21 oktober 2009 23:45 schreef -jos- het volgende:
Wat is dit voor topic? Niet eens een normale Nederlandse OP en alleen maar nietszeggende gekopieerde lappen Engelse tekst? Doe een een voorspelling dan dan controleren wij of het uitkomt. (ofzoiets blijkbaar kun je voorspellen)
Is je blow verkeerd gevallen?
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"Computer says: no.."
"Laat hen gaan, blinden zijn zij, die blinden leiden. Indien een blinde een blinde leidt, zullen zij beiden in een put vallen". (Matteüs 15:14)
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Hyper Dimensional Design at Hyves.

I am going to use this Hyve to post messages with expectations for specific future dates

http://dutch-hddesign.hyves.nl/
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
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I wrote:

"Remember that this Tunguska - the decision to use the atomic bomb - Deep Impact on comet Temple 1 was identified after the impact on comet Temple I, so that Tunguska was in fact marking the 2 biggest mistakes of mankind of these times. 'Tunguska' is the warning for these 2 mistakes, materialized 'in the past' of our limited 3D perception of time, beautifully expressed by the Golden Mean."

"
so we have these 2 Golden Mean Phi expressions marked by the Tunguska event:

Tunguska - nuclear bomb Hirhoshima/Nagasaki - Deep Impact on comet Temple I

and

Tunguska - Moon Impact - Moon Impact

I had to think about this because the first one seems to imply that the Tunguska event has happened on an intelligently designed moment in our perception of time in order to mark these other 2 events ( nuclear bomb and deep impact on comet Temple I) by the Golden Mean Phi.

I consider this to be an 'incoming communication'.

However, the second one also seems to imply that 'Tunguska' has happened in order to mark the 2 lunar impacts and this has been bothering me.

If you look at it than you will notice that only the lunar Impact on October 9, 2009 has happened after the impact on comet Temple I.

Its either all intelligently Designed and predetermined or the lunar impact on October 9, 2009 has been deliberately planned in order to express the given intelligent correlation via the Golden mean Phi, as an outgoing communication.

Its like NASA saying 'oke we made a mistake with the Deep Impact on comet Temple I and we understand the 'intelligent inter-dimensional communication' that is taking place." With this 'useless' moon Impact on October 9, 2009 Nasa is ´confirming´ that the Tunguska warning has been understood.

Wit this in mind I started to investigate a bit more, if the timing of the Lunar Impact on October 9, 2009 has been consciously planned by NASA, than this first identified Intelligent correlation between Deep Impact on comet Temple 1 and this lunar impact must also have been manipulated in order to express this very same Golden Mean correlation. "

and on October 10 I wrote:
quote:
[quote]Tunguska - Moon Impact - Moon Impact

connected by Phi point Golden Mean
Besides the given correlations, I expected some 'Tunguska conditioning' around this moon impact too, around October 9

and here it is:

BBC mainstream:

Asteroid collision 'less likely'

8 October 2009

Refined calculations of the asteroid Apophis's path show it is far less likely smash into Earth in 2036 than was previously thought.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8296796.stm

linked to this article at the same page:

Dr Richard Crowther is head of the United Nations Near Earth Object (Neo) programme. He told the BBC News website: "Tunguska reminds us that these impact events have occurred in the relatively recent past.

"The surveys suggest that objects of this size are numerous enough to anticipate similar events in the relatively near future."

Many observers are concerned by what they regard as a lack of action to counter the threat posed by near-Earth asteroids.

California-based space advocacy group the Planetary Society recently awarded an Atlanta-based aerospace company $50,000 (£25,000) to design a spacecraft which could rendezvous with and track the path of the asteroid 99942 Apophis.

In 2029, this 270m-wide chunk of cosmic debris will closely approach the Earth - so close, in fact, it will be visible with the naked eye.

from:
Fire in the sky: Tunguska at 100
[url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7470283.stm[/quote]]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7470283.stm[/quote][/url]

So I have been expecting such a confirmation around October 9, but look what actually has happened on October 8, 2009, I just came to know about today october27:

It has been posted today by member 'Dreemz' on HDDesign forum:

Asteroid explosion over Indonesia raises fears about Earth's defences

An asteroid that exploded in the Earth’s atmosphere with the energy of three Hiroshima bombs this month has reignited fears about our planet’s defences against space impacts.

On 8 October, the rock crashed into the atmosphere above South Sulawesi, Indonesia. The blast was heard by monitoring stations 10,000 miles away, according to a report by scientists at the University of Western Ontario.

Scientists are concerned that it was not spotted by any telescopes, and that had it been larger it could have caused a disaster.

The asteroid, estimated to have been around 10 metres (30ft) across, hit the atmosphere at an estimated 45,000mph. The sudden deceleration caused it to heat up rapidly and explode with the force of 50,000 tons of TNT.

Luckily, due to the height of the explosion – estimated at between 15 and 20 km (nine to 12 miles) above sea level – no damage was caused on the ground.

However, if the object had been slightly larger – 20 to 30 metres (60 to 90ft) across – it could easily have caused extensive damage and loss of life, say researchers.

=snip=

An asteroid or comet fragment around 60 meters across is believed to have been behind the Tunguska Event, a powerful explosion that took place over Russia in 1908. The blast has been estimated at equivalent to 10-15 million tons of TNT – enough to destroy a large city.

The White House is to develop a policy on the space object impact threat by October next year.
http://www.telegraph.co.u(...)Earths-defences.html

I cannot emphasize enough that this is confirmative to what I have been expecting to happen around October 9!!!!!
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
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from the timeline:
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October 29, 2009 - ongoing 911 based 'control' pattern assassination Pim Fortuyn - Theo van Gogh - Barack Obama placed under very early protection of the secret service. Peter R. de Vries and Geert wilders beware
I wrote on October 22, 2008:

"When Pim fortuyn was assassinated, it was a high profile event. He could have been the next Prime Minister of the Netherlands if he wasn't assassinated just prior to the elections in The Netherlands back in 2002.

I was not aware of any underlying patterns at that time. That changed when Theo van Gogh was killed 911 days later on November 2, 2004.

These two people had alot in common, representatives of 'ultimate freedom', Theo with his freedom of speech and Pim with his remarkable political point of view. However, both were also much 'involved' in ethic and even racial 'issues' , bringing the differences and problem between the native Dutch people and foreigners/muslims to the attention.

I started to monitor the Phi based spiral of which these 2 assassinations could be considered to be 'expressions', unaware of the deeper meaning in the beginning.

Seperate from this Phi based spiral I have been monitoring a timecoded pattern that came to be known as the 'Balkan karma Venus Based' pattern, originally linked to the Srebrenica Massacre back in July 1995.

Continued monitoring of these initially seperated patterns ingreased my understanding of the hidden underlying themes that were expressed on these patterns and it became clear , at least to me, that both these pattern were 'karmic' related to the Srebrenica massacre and all its implications.

The people in Srebrenica were protected by Dutch soldiers in an UN safe haven. We prommissed these people to protect them. We told these people to come to Srebrenica because it would be safe. The United Nations would make sure that these people would be safe.

When the Sebs started to attack the enclave, it was decided that the Dutch soldiers would not protect these people at all costs, in a sense when it became clear that it would take Dutch casualties, the Ducth soldiers surrended to Mladic.

The Dutch military stated that it became impossible to protect Srebrenica after air support was refused. Several request for air support in order to take out Serbian tanks were declined.

As a result, the man and boys in Srebrenica were seperated from their wives and daughters and were shot to death with a few in a row at the time, until more than 8000 muslim boys and men were slaughtered.

This all happened under the formal protection of the United Nations.

It was the worst crime against humanity and the biggest massacre in Europe since WW II and it was allowed to happen despite the fact that we free people as representatives of the UN should have done everything to protect these people.

We all have a responsibility in relations to this, although most will deny it.

I began to understand that this responsibilty was finding expression on these determined timeframes on this Phi based spiral in Dutch society, of which the asassinations of Pim and Theo were part of.

It must be clear that it was not The Netherlands that refused the air support, the patterns unveiled, at least to me, that the US government was in fact responsible.

During the predetermined timeframes on these patterns several events materialized that are in fact unveiling the hidden underlying truth about the responsibilities for the Srebrenica massacre.

Milosevic was taken out by Design, Tolimir arrested, The Dutch gouvernment fell and sued, Obama security issues and lots of more, logged 'realtime' in the 2 thread specifically dedicated to these 2 patterns.

You cannot understand this if you don't try to see the bigger picture of the events that took place during the predetermined dates of these patterns.

The next dates are given, I expect expressions that will make clear the we trully are responsible for what has happened in Srebrenica in July 1995."
quote:
As said numerous times before:

This 911 Golden Mean based timecoded spiral in Dutch society is in fact linked to 'Srebrenica Karma'

I have been identifying and monitoring it here, during the last couple of years:

911 based Phi spiral in Dutch society
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about87-hddesign.html
Balkan Karma Venus based
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about4-hddesign.html

First identified event on this timecoded spiral was the assassination of Pim Fortuyn and this HDDesign 'research' shows that this was in fact a karmic expression related to the Srebrenica massacre.

Venus based indeed:

Srebrenica July 11, 1995 - September 1, 2009 = timeframe of 5.167 days

or Venus at the same orbital position

5.167 / 224.68 ( Venus year in Earth days ) = 23

This development emerges, true or not, its hitting the timecoded pattern:

Pim Fortuyn was killed by a second shooter!

Actrice Ine Veen has written a book based on a scret report ( that's what she claims ) in which she stated that indeed Volkert van de Graaf did shoot 3 bullets at Pim Fortuyn ( 2 in his back, one in his neck), but that Pim Fortuyn was already killed by 2 bullets in his head fired by a second shooter from on top a nearby building.

The Dutch secret service AIVD would know about these 2 kinds of ammunition. The book is called "killed by the Crown".
[url=http://www.crimesite.nl/liquidaties/moord/pim-fortuyn-werd-door-tweede-schutter-vermoord-volkert-van-der-graaf.html
]http://www.crimesite.nl/liquidaties/moord/pim-fortuyn-werd-door-tweede-schutter-vermoord-volkert-van-der-graaf.html[/quote][/url]

I have written about the correlation between the assassination of Pim Fortuyn and the JSF striker fighter.
Prior to the elections in The Netherlands back in 2002, in became clear that Pim Fortuyn would probably win these elections so he could even become the next Prime Minister of The Netherlands.

During the weeks prior to the assassination Pim changed his mind about the JSF. First he supported the JSF but a few weeks prior to the election he said that Netherlands shouldn't buy the JSF. He became an opponent of the JSF.

If he had lived during the elections, he would have won and we wouldn't go on with the JSF.

Pim was assassinated just prior to the elections and his part won indeed.

His successor Mat Herben didn't became PM but he was involved forming the next gouvernment of the Netherlands. Mat Herrben's first political action was to give his approval to the JSF, exactly the opposite of how Pim would have wanted it.

Its amazing that this has happened while nobody seems to care less.

As this HDDesign 'research' has shown repeatedly, the JSF issue regularly shows up on the patterns related to Pim Fortuyn.

So today we are again in a timeframe related to the assassination of Pim Fortuyn and the JSF is getting momentum.....again!

'JSF mogelijk nog duurder'
JSF more expensive because the GB wants to ordr less JSF's
http://www.nu.nl/algemeen/2110629/jsf-mogelijk-nog-duurder.html
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
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<============>[size=18]Communication[/size]<============>


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Deep Impact is an ongoing NASA space probe which was launched on January 12, 2005. It was designed to study the composition of the comet interior of 9P/Tempel ( Temple 1 ), by colliding a section of the spacecraft into the comet. On July 4, 2005, the impactor of the Deep Impact probe successfully collided with the comet's nucleus. The impact excavated debris from the interior of the nucleus, allowing photographs of the impact crater. The photographs showed the comet to be more dusty and less icy than had been expected. The impact generated a large and bright dust cloud, which unexpectedly obscured the view of the impact crater.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Impact_(space_mission)

During the last couple of years this Hyper Dimensional Design 'research' has provided numerous indications of Intelligent Design in our reality.
The elements of HDDesign are based on Hyper Dimensional Physics, HD Platonic Solids geometry, mathematically determined timecoded patterns and orbital positions of the elements of our solarsystem.
The subconscious mind seems to be able to 'tune in' on this hidden underlying Design of our reality and this hidden Design is first unveiled by 'coincidences' and synchronicities that occur.
The conscious human mind is able to rationally understand these intelligent correlations by applying the described elements of HDDesign, but unfortunately most people will dismiss the initial indication and ignore it. Although these people seem to accept that they exist in THIS dimensional realm, they do not want to accept that other dimensional realms even exist.

While the indications are overwhelming

What I have learned from this HDDesign 'research' is that we can get rid of our rigid 3-dimensional ( or 4, time ) perspective of reality, we only have to take these initial indications serious and listen to our intuition first.
While working with this HDdesign material, the 'coincidences' constantly show up, all the time. Not once or twice, or only in the beginning, these coincidences are showing up all the time and its my experience that they are becomming more profound when time proceeds.
As if the ability is increasing, for human consciousness to unlock the real nature of the reality we live in.

This HDDesign research implies that consciousness also resides in other dimensions and that our reality is intelligently connected to other dimensions and that the indications of this connection can be understood with the rational mind.
The solarsystem we live in is also 'reflecting' the hidden undelying Deisgn of our reality, what we are consciously experincing here in our reality, is also reflected by specific orbital positions of the planets in our solarsystem.
If this is understood, one could imagine that a Deep Impact on a comet, just like we did with Comet Temple 1 on July 4, 2005, seems not a good idea. What do we know what kind of effects such an Impact would have for other dimensional realms, for consciousness itself? at all levels? Do we know what comet really represents?

Another underlying theme that shows up regularly in this HDDesign material is the (mis)use of nuclear power. What do we know what kind of effects a nuclear detonation has on other dimensional realms or consciousness itself, at all levels?

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With these two biggest mistakes of mankind we have crossed a red line: the use of nuclear weapons ( Hirhoshima / Nagasaki ) and the Impact on comet Temple 1.

And because we've crossed this red line we have been 'warned'.

The 'warning' comes from 'outside' our limited 3D perspective of reality and has been materialized in the past in our limited 3D perspective of time. We have to get rid of our linear perspective of time, these 3D limitations on linear time are only valid in the way we are consciously experiencing our reality, but its a limited perspective.

So this 'warning' has happened in the past of our perspective of time , but it is 'caused' by these 2 big mistakes of mankind.



I talk about the Tunguska event on June 30, 1908
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunguska_event

The connectedness is fundamental and Intelligently determined by the Golden Mean Phi.

Tunguska -- 1 --> decission to use nuclear weapons -- 1,618034-> Deep Impact.

Deep Impact on Comet Temple 1 showed unexpected results and it seems to me that NASA has come to the conclusion that this Impact on comet temple I wasn't a good idea indeed.

There's evidence to support this, a while after the Deep Impact mission NASA started to 'Intelligently Communicate' with their initiated events in space, as if NASA wanted to say "sorry, we made a mistake, we didn't knew but we do understand now".
The 'communication' seems to be directed at other levels of consciousness, so it seems to me for reasons I will explain here.

We go back to May 29, 2008.

The Deep Impact mission was extended with the Epoxi Space mission and on May 29, 2008:

NASA's Deep Impact Films Earth as an Alien World
http://www.nasa.gov/topic(...)s/epoxi_transit.html

"NASA's Deep Impact spacecraft has created a video of the moon transiting (passing in front of) Earth as seen from the spacecraft's point of view 31 million miles away. Scientists are using the video to develop techniques to study alien worlds."



With this Earth-Moon transit captured by Deep Impact/Epoxi spacecraft on May 29, 2008, NASA is deliberately marking a Pi expression in space:

I wrote on January 2 this year:

"This Epoxi ( Deep Impact extended mission) - Earth - moon Transit as captured from Epoxi is awsom, and the awakeningstimeframe + Pi are confirming the hidden underlying Intelligent Design:

3 awakeningstimeframes = ascension timeframe, or 3333 Earth days
3333 / Pi = 1060 days on Earth ( in full days)

Deep Impact on comet Temple I happened on July 4, 2005

The Deep Impact - Moon Earth transit as seen on the picture above happened on May 29, 2008

July 4, 2005 - May 29, 2008 = 1060 days on Earth!

Wake Up!

So this Deep Impact/Epoxi - Moon - Earth Transit happened at ascension starttriggerdate of the end of the Mayan Calendar, on May 29, 2008.

The awakenings timeframe of 1111 days was the first identified element of hidden Intelligent Design that became a key element of these HDDesign theories, followed by the 911 based control timeframe and the ascension timeframe of 3333 days, the latter emphasized in the HDDesign theories as more profound."

and followed by this:

"this is so profound....when intuition speaks:

Deep Impact on comet Temple I happened on July 4, 2005

Deep Impact/Epoxi - Moon - Earth Transit happened at ascension starttriggerdate of the end of the Mayan Calendar, on May 29, 2008.

next scheduled Deep Impact/Epoxi spacecraft flyby of comet Hartley 2: October 11, 2010.

As we have seen in previous posts and on the timeline, this May 29, 2008 timeframe of the Transit had a big emphasis on Pi, unveiling the correlations between Pi, ascension timframe, orbital positions, Deep Impact and the end of the Mayan Calendar

Wouldn't it be an unmistaken confirmation to find Pi expressed by these three events in space: Deep Impact on Temple I, the Epoxi - moon - Earth transit and the comet Hartley 2 flyby?

Wouldn't you think that if a Pi connection is there, it would be an unmistaken indication of hidden underlying Intelligent Design?

fasten year seatbelt: Pi IS expressed by these Deep Impact events:

Timeframe Deep Impact on comet Temple I - comet Hartley flyby / Pi

is the same as:

Pi * difference between:

Deep Impact on Temple I - Epoxi / Moon / Eart Transit

and

Epoxii / Moom / Earth Transit - comet Hartly flyby

or in numbers:

July 4, 2005 ( Deep Impact Temple I) - October 11, 2010 ( comet hartley flyby of spacecraft Deep Impact/Epoxi) = 1925 days rounded

July 4, 2005 - May 29, 2008 Epoxi - Moon transit = 1060 days rounded

May 29, 2008 Epoxi/moon/Earth Transit - October 11, 2010 comet Hartly flyby = 865 days rounded

The difference between 1060 and 865 is 195 days

1925 / Pi = 195 * Pi

or

1925 / Pi / Pi is the difference between the timeframes from the Epoxi/moon/Earth Transit and the 2 Deep Ipact spacecraft events!!

This is so beautiful and fundamental."

This is ONLY meant as a mean to communicate as it became clear that there will never be an encounter with comet Hartley on October 11, 2010.

This was a deliberate communication expressing Pi, initiated by NASA after the Impact on comet Temple 1. NASA is 'communicating' that they understand they shouldn't have impacted comet Temple I.
With this doing so, NASA understands that these kind of 'intelligent' communcations are somehow possible.

The 'confirmation' materialized on the ground that very same timeframe:

The 2008 Barbury Castle Pattern is Pi to 3.14159265358



“The fact that the Pi decimal point is included (in the 2008 Barbury Castle
barley pattern) and there is rounding up to 10 decimal places is to me a little mind boggling!”
– Michael Reed, Astrophysicist

At this stage NASA has only intelligently expressed that it is understood that they made a mistake.

But the communication goes on

October 9, 2009 - Centaur impact on Moon

On June 18, 2009, NASA launched this new "double mission" -- a SUV-sized spacecraft called "Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter" (LRO), designed to map the entire lunar surface in unprecedented detail over the next five years (and, several times); and, a "piggy-back" spacecraft, called the "Lunar Crater Observation and Sensing Satellite" (LCROSS), designed to direct the spent upper stage of the Atlas 5 LRO launch vehicle (the "Centaur" second stage) into a carefully targeted impact with the lunar surface on October 9, 2009.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_Reconnaissance_Orbiter

This LCROSS mission with the moon impact was added to the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter (LRO) mission after Deep Impact on comet Temple 1 and agian this LCROSS missions is more a mean of 'communication' rather than a search for waterice on the moon, as we will see.

After Deep Impact, these 2 events in space followed, expressing the Golden Mean Phi in the same way as the Tunguska 'warning':

3 manmade impacts in space: connected by Golden Mean Phi:

Deep Impact on comet Temple I --- at Phi point U.S. satellite shootdown --- lunar impact

As soon as I understood this connection, the deliberately planned satellite shoot down and Moon Impact on a predetermined timeframe as a mean for 'communication', I wanted to see if the Phi point between the 'incoming communication' Tunguska event on june 30, 1908 and this lunar Impact on October 9, 2009 would give confirmation of the underlying Design.

At Phi point between Tunguska and the Moon Impact on October 9, 2009 Apollo 14 mission to the moon is on its way!

With an actual Impact on the moon too!!!!!!

I wrote:

"So the Apollo 14 moonlanding mission around February 2, 1971 and the October 9, 2009 double impact on the moon are connected with the Tunguska event, with the Apollo 14 moonlanding mission at Phi point.

The Phi point between Tunguska and Deep Impact is July 21, 1945, marking one of the biggest mistakes of mankind: the use of nuclear weapons. Its Earth's orbital position again that is marking the 'communication' that is taking place.

unbeleivable: there has been an actual impact too!!!!!

LRO Sees Apollo 14's Rocket Booster Impact Site

Oct 09, 2009
A distinctive crater about 35 meters (115 feet) in diameter was formed when the Apollo 14 Saturn IVB (upper stage) was intentionally impacted into the moon. The energy of the impact created small tremors that were measured by the seismometer placed on the Moon by Apollo 12 astronauts in 1969.
http://www.moondaily.com/(...)Impact_Site_999.html

Tunguska - Moon Impact - Moon Impact

connected by Phi point Golden Mean

unbelievable

fundamental truth

The message of this 'communication' should be clear

Tunguska is a warning

Human consciousness must remain Earthbound and we should not interfere with objects in space

we must not mess with nuclear power

With the predetermined satellite shootdown en Moon Impact on October 9 NASA is 'communicating'.
And again, just like the Pi cropcircle 'confirming' NASA's Pi expression with Deep Impact/Epoxi space missions ( May 29, 2008) , this NASA 'communication' that the Tunguska 'warning' has been understood, is confirmed during the same timeframe of the lunar Impact around October 9, 2009:

Asteroid explosion over Indonesia raises fears about Earth's defences

An asteroid that exploded in the Earth’s atmosphere with the energy of three Hiroshima bombs this month has reignited fears about our planet’s defences against space impacts.

On 8 October, the rock crashed into the atmosphere above South Sulawesi, Indonesia. The blast was heard by monitoring stations 10,000 miles away, according to a report by scientists at the University of Western Ontario.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/space...s-defences.html

For more details I refer to the timeline Q4 2009 here:
Q4 2009 Timeline, October, November and December 2009
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about386-hddesign.html
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"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
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Nou ben ik een near native speaker als het om Engels gaat, maar hier kan ik echt geen kaas van maken.
Kan iemand dit nader verklaren/toelichten?
quote:
The 'warning' comes from 'outside' our limited 3D perspective of reality and has been materialized in the past in our limited 3D perspective of time. We have to get rid of our linear perspective of time, these 3D limitations on linear time are only valid in the way we are consciously experiencing our reality, but its a limited perspective.
The Rated-R Era ... A Decade of Decadence
Mr. Prolapse 2009
  maandag 9 november 2009 @ 17:04:45 #113
1872 Jumparound
bedankt voor de vis
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quote:
Op vrijdag 6 november 2009 14:12 schreef Dragorius het volgende:
Nou ben ik een near native speaker als het om Engels gaat, maar hier kan ik echt geen kaas van maken.
Kan iemand dit nader verklaren/toelichten?
[..]
Dat is toch niet zo moelijk? Tijd is 3d, (in tegenstelling tot wat het gros van de mensheid denkt (nl 1d) (ik denk dat dutch denkt dat tijd ook diepte heeft, mogelijk zodat er meerdere tijdstromen tegelijkertijd naast elkaar bewegen) maar tijd is niet 3d, tijd is 4d, dus niet alleen met diepte, hoogte en lengte, maar ook een 4de demensie, nl.... tijd!
Inorbit: zeg dat dan typluie triangeljosti
Beauregard: Een beetje FOK!ker laat het brood door z'n moeder smeren.
Ecosia
ek's 'n flash drive, jy's 'n floppy
pi_74556312
Dutch, wat is 'tijd' voor jou? Geloof je dat 'tijd' bestaat?
Have fun...
pi_74556560
quote:
Op vrijdag 6 november 2009 13:23 schreef Dutch. het volgende:
<============>[size=18]Communication[/size]<============>


<============>[ afbeelding ]<============>


Deep Impact is an ongoing NASA space probe which was launched on January 12, 2005. It was designed to study the composition of the comet interior of 9P/Tempel ( Temple 1 ), by colliding a section of the spacecraft into the comet. On July 4, 2005, the impactor of the Deep Impact probe successfully collided with the comet's nucleus. The impact excavated debris from the interior of the nucleus, allowing photographs of the impact crater. The photographs showed the comet to be more dusty and less icy than had been expected. The impact generated a large and bright dust cloud, which unexpectedly obscured the view of the impact crater.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Impact_(space_mission)

During the last couple of years this Hyper Dimensional Design 'research' has provided numerous indications of Intelligent Design in our reality.
The elements of HDDesign are based on Hyper Dimensional Physics, HD Platonic Solids geometry, mathematically determined timecoded patterns and orbital positions of the elements of our solarsystem.
The subconscious mind seems to be able to 'tune in' on this hidden underlying Design of our reality and this hidden Design is first unveiled by 'coincidences' and synchronicities that occur.
The conscious human mind is able to rationally understand these intelligent correlations by applying the described elements of HDDesign, but unfortunately most people will dismiss the initial indication and ignore it. Although these people seem to accept that they exist in THIS dimensional realm, they do not want to accept that other dimensional realms even exist.

While the indications are overwhelming

What I have learned from this HDDesign 'research' is that we can get rid of our rigid 3-dimensional ( or 4, time ) perspective of reality, we only have to take these initial indications serious and listen to our intuition first.
While working with this HDdesign material, the 'coincidences' constantly show up, all the time. Not once or twice, or only in the beginning, these coincidences are showing up all the time and its my experience that they are becomming more profound when time proceeds.
As if the ability is increasing, for human consciousness to unlock the real nature of the reality we live in.

This HDDesign research implies that consciousness also resides in other dimensions and that our reality is intelligently connected to other dimensions and that the indications of this connection can be understood with the rational mind.
The solarsystem we live in is also 'reflecting' the hidden undelying Deisgn of our reality, what we are consciously experincing here in our reality, is also reflected by specific orbital positions of the planets in our solarsystem.
If this is understood, one could imagine that a Deep Impact on a comet, just like we did with Comet Temple 1 on July 4, 2005, seems not a good idea. What do we know what kind of effects such an Impact would have for other dimensional realms, for consciousness itself? at all levels? Do we know what comet really represents?

Another underlying theme that shows up regularly in this HDDesign material is the (mis)use of nuclear power. What do we know what kind of effects a nuclear detonation has on other dimensional realms or consciousness itself, at all levels?
*knip*
Eindelijk een keer een uitleg waar ik wat aan heb . Nu begrijp ik een stuk beter wat je bedoelt
Have fun...
  dinsdag 10 november 2009 @ 15:41:58 #116
1872 Jumparound
bedankt voor de vis
pi_74575414
Dutch, weet je zeker dat 6/11 geen triggerdate was?
lijkt mij toch dat DIT toch wel een waarschuwing van formaat is....
Inorbit: zeg dat dan typluie triangeljosti
Beauregard: Een beetje FOK!ker laat het brood door z'n moeder smeren.
Ecosia
ek's 'n flash drive, jy's 'n floppy
pi_74586396
Was er niet ook iets neergekomen in Indonesië de laatste dagen??
Have fun...
  dinsdag 10 november 2009 @ 22:31:31 #118
34573 Neutrino
Dead cat bounce
pi_74588474
Wanneer is de echo van het uitsterven van de Dinosauriërs te verwachten. En wat te denken van de echo van het Tungaska incident.

De vraag is echter of oorzaak en gevolg überhaupt wel de juiste volgorde hebben. Soms kan er immers een gevolg zijn waarna de oorzaak zich zal manifesteren.
Sell in may and go away. Forget it, we are here to stay.
pi_74597400
quote:
Op dinsdag 10 november 2009 21:39 schreef Handschoen het volgende:
Was er niet ook iets neergekomen in Indonesië de laatste dagen??
Ja dat was op 8 october ( zie mijn vorige post ) en recentelijk was er weer een incident.
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
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quote:
Op dinsdag 10 november 2009 15:41 schreef Jumparound het volgende:
Dutch, weet je zeker dat 6/11 geen triggerdate was?
lijkt mij toch dat DIT toch wel een waarschuwing van formaat is....
Waar ik alert op ben is 'communicatie' in deze post-maan impact periode in relatie tot Tunguska.

Er is een theorie dat de Tunguska impact was in feite een inslag was van een fragment van komeet Encke .

Ik ben even snel wat gedachten aan het loggen hier want ik heb het druk op het werk, dus verontschuldiging als de verbanden niet duidelijk zijn, maar de 'communicatie' rond tunguska lijkt sterk geassocieerd met Enki symboliek ( Sumerie/ oude kennis) Tunguska IS Enki symboliek en deze 'near miss' komt tot ons bewustzijn op 10 November. Ik ben dan alert op Enki symboliek rond dit soort gebeurtenissen en nu blijkt dat de keeper van het Duitse nationale team gisteren zelfmoord heeft gepleegd: Robert Enke.
quote:
Germany and Hannover 96 goalkeeper Robert Enke has died after being hit by a train in an apparent suicide on Tuesday, police have confirmed.
Jaren terug heeft ooit een lezer eens gezegd over dit HDDesign materiaal: "What Dutch is doing, is like Enki talking to a wall".

Voor mij persoonlijk lijken deze gebeurtenissen in combinatie met het HDDesign materiaal van deze periode aan te geven dat het negeren van de 'waarschuwingen' uiteindelijk neer komt op anihilatie, wij zijn in staat om onszelf te vernietigen, dat is in potentie aanwezig.
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
  woensdag 11 november 2009 @ 12:17:18 #121
1872 Jumparound
bedankt voor de vis
pi_74600510
Je weet dat ik "nogal" sceptisch ben... maar dit geeft me wel rillingen... (tot op zekere hoogte dan he ;-) )
Inorbit: zeg dat dan typluie triangeljosti
Beauregard: Een beetje FOK!ker laat het brood door z'n moeder smeren.
Ecosia
ek's 'n flash drive, jy's 'n floppy
pi_74601548
Ik was in het begin ook erg sceptisch, maar nu ik meer begrijp van hoe dutch het doet en ik nu zijn posts kan lezen zodat ik ook begrijp wat hij zegt zijn er wel een hoop 'toevalligheden' .

Dutch, hoe onderscheid je communicatie van niet-communicatie?
Have fun...
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Onbekende planetoïde scheerde langs de aarde
Uitgegeven: 10 november 2009 09:45
Laatst gewijzigd: 10 november 2009 09:44

AMSTERDAM - Vrijdag 6 november is onverwachts een kleine planetoïde langs de aarde gescheerd. Het naar schatting slechts zeven meter grote brok ruimtesteen, dat de aanduiding 2009 VA heeft gekregen, miste het aardoppervlak op ongeveer 14.000 kilometer.

Daarmee was het, voor zover bekend, de op twee na dichtste nadering van een planetoïde die niet op aarde is neergestort. Alleen in 2004 en 2008 vonden niptere missers plaats.

Gemiddeld komen er ongeveer twee van zulke kleine planetoïden dicht langs de aarde, en eens in de vijf jaar ploffen de restanten van zo'n object op het aardoppervlak.

http://www.nu.nl/wetensch(...)rde-langs-aarde.html

10 november
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quote:
Op maandag 9 november 2009 22:02 schreef Handschoen het volgende:
Dutch, wat is 'tijd' voor jou? Geloof je dat 'tijd' bestaat?
Ons normale begrip van tijd is gekoppeld aan de 3 dimensies ( of 4 = tijd) waarin we ons bewustzijn ervaren. Buiten deze dimensies is het begrip tijd irrelevant en ons lineaire tijdsbegrip beperkt ons vermogen om causaliteit te begrijpen. Wij zijn waarschijnlijk niet in staat om 'onze tijd' te manipuleren ( daarom laat er altijd wel een vogeltje een stukje brood in de LHC vallen ) maar ik denk dat het van buitenaf wel mogelijk is, vanuit andere dimensies. ( even los van wat dat allemaal impliceert.)

De Tungaska gebeurtenis is zo'n voorbeeld
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
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quote:
Dutch, hoe onderscheid je communicatie van niet-communicatie?
Als het onderliggende Intelligente ontwerp in tegenspraak is met ons lineaire tijdsbegrip beschouw ik dit als inkomende communicatie, voornamelijk uitgedrukt door gebeurtenissen in ons zonnestelsel en de rest van het universum in interactie met de aarde. Ook 'out of the blue' gebeurtenissen en synchroniteiten kunnen een vorm van communicatie zijn, vooral als deze gebeurtenissen tot 'onthulling' leiden, zoals bv 9/11.
Het meeste wat in onze realiteit gebeurd is echter gewone 'karmische' expressie van ons ( collectieve) bewustzijn.
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
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