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  donderdag 16 oktober 2008 @ 10:41:55 #1
34614 jogy
Hersenflatulent
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http://www.financialpost.com/story.html?id=866522
quote:
The credit crisis is spilling over into the grain industry as international buyers find themselves unable to come up with payment, forcing sellers to shoulder often substantial losses.

Before cargoes can be loaded at port, buyers typically must produce proof they are good for the money. But more deals are falling through as sellers decide they don't trust the financial institution named in the buyer's letter of credit, analysts said.

"There's all kinds of stuff stacked up on docks right now that can't be shipped because people can't get letters of credit," said Bill Gary, president of Commodity Information Systems in Oklahoma City. "The problem is not demand, and it's not supply because we have plenty of supply. It's finding anyone who can come up with the credit to buy."

So far the problem is mostly being felt in U. S. and South American ports, but observers say it is only a matter of time before it hits Canada.

"We've got a nightmare in front of us and a lot of people are concerned it's going to get a lot worse," said Anthony Temple, a grain marketing expert based in Vancouver.

The port troubles occur as financial institutions worldwide experience an unprecedented level of failures; even the strongest global banks are taking shelter in government bailouts. Yesterday, the U. K was expected to invest as much as £45-billion ($87.01-billion) in three of the country's biggest banks, while the U. S. government rushed to put in place its US$700-billion rescue package for beleaguered financial market players. Ottawa has so far resisted pleas for direct financial aid for exporters.

Access to credit is key to the survival of maritime trade and insiders now say the supply is being severely restricted. More than 90% of the world's trade by volume goes by ship.

The Baltic Dry Goods Index, the main measure of shipping rates, is down 74% from its high back in May when trade with China was still strong.

"The credit crisis has made banks nervous and the last thing on their minds is making fresh loans," Omar Nokta, an analyst at investment bank Dahlman Rose, said in an interview with Reuters.

While shipping has always been a cyclical industry whose fortunes rise and fall with the global economy, analysts said the current crisis over the drying up of credit is something they have never seen before.

Jason Myers, head of the Canadian Manufacturers and Exporters, said exporters across Canada are getting caught up in the turmoil as customers delay payments, forcing them to shoulder the cost.

"What some companies are saying is we can't pay you until our customer pays us, so it becomes a question of who bares the financial risk and the cost," Mr. Myers said. "We're hearing about it more and more."

What that means is that manufacturers are getting hit as revenue slows and longtime customers disappear from the order book altogether. As profits decline, investment in product development starts to fall, too, he said.

The Canadian Wheat Board, one of the world's biggest grain marketers, has yet to refuse a customer because of poor credit, according to a spokeswoman. "As of this moment we haven't run into that problem," said Maureen Fitzhenry.

Officials at Viterra, Canada's leading grain handler, were not immediately available for comment.

The meltdown in financial markets has resulted in a dramatic slowdown in maritime trade, with major ports in Canada and the United States preparing for sharply reduced activity after several of the busiest years on record.

Statistics from the Port of Vancouver have yet to officially register a drop but at Los Angeles and Long Beach, Calif., among the biggest U. S ports, imports have already declined 9% this year.
In het kort: De bedrijven die het voedsel vervoeren krijgen geen krediet meer. Dus blijft graan en ander voedsel liggen waar het ligt ONDANKS dat er wel vraag en aanbod is.

Oeps? Dat is wel iets ernstiger dan een beurs die neer gaat. .

Nog meer bronnen.

http://www.lloydslist.com(...)ears/20017580898.htm
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=ahkq91XcsKnY&refer=home
Bron

[ Bericht 0% gewijzigd door jogy op 16-10-2008 18:36:22 ]
Iedereen is de hoofdrolspeler van zijn eigen komedie.
Vrijheid
pi_62428488
De voorspelling was ook de gevolgen van de kredietcrisis pas later duidelijk zouden worden in de 'echte' economie.
Zal je zien dat de voedselprijzen verder zullen stijgen omdat we een overschot hebben, maar het niet kunnen vervoeren.
So we just called him Fred too
pi_62428619
NUTTIG.

Omdat de verkopers besluiten dat ze de kredietbrieven niet vertrouwen, blijven de verkopers met het graan zitten, en draaien ze straks grote verliezen.

Uhm... verkopers... dat doen jullie dan toch zelf? O.O Blijkbaar geven banken wel kredietbrieven af aan de kopers...
~Dannon
pi_62428837
Nee, het gaat over de distributeurs. Er is voldoende vraag en aanbod zoals hierboven al vermeldt.

Het verbaasd me wel dat er blijkbaar voor elke (grote) verscheping/vervoering geleend wordt.
pi_62428900
lol, dus het vervoer ligt stil door krediettekorten, niet eens door brandstoftekorten.

Het kan raar lopen.
The problem is not the occupation, but how people deal with it.
  Redactie Frontpage donderdag 16 oktober 2008 @ 12:02:51 #6
145738 superworm
is erbij
pi_62430466
Ik werk bij een enorm vervoerbedrijf, en ben tot nu toe al 2 filialen tegengekomen met een kredietstop
Steun Stichting Bijen Zonder Zorgen!
op FOK!
op Facebook
op de website
pi_62431475
Geen verrassing; we zullen binnenkort wel meer van dit soort zaken zien. Als dit lang duurt zul je waarschijnlijk ook minder voedsel ‘van ver’ in de supermarkt zien.
When the student is ready, the teacher will appear.
When the student is truly ready, the teacher will disappear.
  donderdag 16 oktober 2008 @ 12:44:39 #8
89730 Drugshond
De Euro. Mislukt vanaf dag 1.
pi_62431576
quote:
Op donderdag 16 oktober 2008 12:41 schreef Aether het volgende:
Geen verrassing; we zullen binnenkort wel meer van dit soort zaken zien. Als dit lang duurt zul je waarschijnlijk ook minder voedsel ‘van ver’ in de supermarkt zien.
Daar kun je idd op wachten...dat wordt een boel minder vervoer (ook door Nederland).
Rotterdam blijft een belangrijke haven als poort van Europa en dit gaat diep ingrijpen.
pi_62438215
zonder venster van 2 schermen breed:
quote:
The credit crisis is spilling over into the grain industry as international buyers find themselves unable to come up with payment, forcing sellers to shoulder often substantial losses.

Before cargoes can be loaded at port, buyers typically must produce proof they are good for the money. But more deals are falling through as sellers decide they don't trust the financial institution named in the buyer's letter of credit, analysts said.

"There's all kinds of stuff stacked up on docks right now that can't be shipped because people can't get letters of credit," said Bill Gary, president of Commodity Information Systems in Oklahoma City. "The problem is not demand, and it's not supply because we have plenty of supply. It's finding anyone who can come up with the credit to buy."

So far the problem is mostly being felt in U. S. and South American ports, but observers say it is only a matter of time before it hits Canada.

"We've got a nightmare in front of us and a lot of people are concerned it's going to get a lot worse," said Anthony Temple, a grain marketing expert based in Vancouver.

The port troubles occur as financial institutions worldwide experience an unprecedented level of failures; even the strongest global banks are taking shelter in government bailouts. Yesterday, the U. K was expected to invest as much as £45-billion ($87.01-billion) in three of the country's biggest banks, while the U. S. government rushed to put in place its US$700-billion rescue package for beleaguered financial market players. Ottawa has so far resisted pleas for direct financial aid for exporters.

Access to credit is key to the survival of maritime trade and insiders now say the supply is being severely restricted. More than 90% of the world's trade by volume goes by ship.

The Baltic Dry Goods Index, the main measure of shipping rates, is down 74% from its high back in May when trade with China was still strong.

"The credit crisis has made banks nervous and the last thing on their minds is making fresh loans," Omar Nokta, an analyst at investment bank Dahlman Rose, said in an interview with Reuters.

While shipping has always been a cyclical industry whose fortunes rise and fall with the global economy, analysts said the current crisis over the drying up of credit is something they have never seen before.

Jason Myers, head of the Canadian Manufacturers and Exporters, said exporters across Canada are getting caught up in the turmoil as customers delay payments, forcing them to shoulder the cost.

"What some companies are saying is we can't pay you until our customer pays us, so it becomes a question of who bares the financial risk and the cost," Mr. Myers said. "We're hearing about it more and more."

What that means is that manufacturers are getting hit as revenue slows and longtime customers disappear from the order book altogether. As profits decline, investment in product development starts to fall, too, he said.

The Canadian Wheat Board, one of the world's biggest grain marketers, has yet to refuse a customer because of poor credit, according to a spokeswoman. "As of this moment we haven't run into that problem," said Maureen Fitzhenry.

Officials at Viterra, Canada's leading grain handler, were not immediately available for comment.

The meltdown in financial markets has resulted in a dramatic slowdown in maritime trade, with major ports in Canada and the United States preparing for sharply reduced activity after several of the busiest years on record.

Statistics from the Port of Vancouver have yet to officially register a drop but at Los Angeles and Long Beach, Calif., among the biggest U. S ports, imports have already declined 9% this year.
pi_62438322
misschien had de overheid beter hier het geld aan kunnen geven ipv aan de rijke bankiers
pi_62439108
De overheden gaven dat geld wel met het idee om dit te kunnen voorkomen. Dit vergoeden kost veel meer. (Overigens is er helemaal niet zoveel geld gegeven, maar worden er vooral garanties gedaan.)
  donderdag 16 oktober 2008 @ 18:08:39 #12
158899 GasTurbine
SEE THE PATERN ON MY COCK
pi_62440009
Ik heb mijn graanzaadjes al in de tuin uitgestrooid!
'houd je bek is joh, als je zulke grote kk praatjes heb moet je is naar Tiel komen.'
„Je bent ’n keronje! Je mag zelf ’n zoogdier wezen, jy en je zoon, dat zeg ik je!”
  donderdag 16 oktober 2008 @ 18:37:05 #13
34614 jogy
Hersenflatulent
pi_62440694
quote:
Op donderdag 16 oktober 2008 16:51 schreef TubewayDigital het volgende:
zonder venster van 2 schermen breed:
[..]
Hm, daar had ik geen last van. Maar ik heb een grote url achter bron gezet. Is het nu weg?
Iedereen is de hoofdrolspeler van zijn eigen komedie.
Vrijheid
pi_62447550
ja nu is ie weg
  vrijdag 17 oktober 2008 @ 02:11:04 #15
24883 Red.Flash
.-=IT's-A-Bombe=-.
pi_62450577
Eh dat belooft niet veel goeds.
Straks moeten we vechten in de winkel om brood.
Hmmm kan natuurlijk morgen zo'n broodbakmachine halen, met eh 600 pakjes van die broodmix waar alleen water bij moet.
Dan heb ik zelf voor een heel jaar brood.
En af en toe bak ik dan een extra brood en die verkoop ik dan op straat voor eh 80 euro ofzo.
Ya ik denk dat broodmix een van de beste investeringen is die je nu kan doen.
A closed mind is a good thing to lose.
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