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Aruba "The First Independent State under Mafia Control"

The Chicago Outfit, shortened to "the Outfit" is a crime syndicate based in Chicago, Illinois, USA. Dating back to the 1910s, it is part of the United States phenomenon known as the Mafia; however, the Chicago Outfit is distinct from the "Five Families" of New York City, though all Italian-American crime families are ruled by The Commission.

So it was a match made in Mob Heaven. The Caruana-Cuntrera Family of Mobsters were too widely exposed in Aruba and Mike Posner was too widely known in Chicago to do business. Since Mike kept quiet about the Murders at his nightclub and other things they rewarded him with there Aruba franchise when paroled in 1997. His Mob connections may go back 40 years but apparently his father Bernard Pepe Posner was involved in Al Capones gang which makes it go back even further. It's all the same Mafioso and I think that is obvious. Look at 2007 at the enormous arrests of these Italian gangsters both in Canada and Chicago. The article above even mentions the Sicilians were replaced by the Chicago Outfit in Aruba.

We know Patrick Van Der EEM for years was a heroin dealer and at the same time these same Sicilians were trafficking Heroin from Thailand. I know Peter R has done well using gangsters to infiltrate but this time the gangster came to him

Is it a coincidence that this Italian from Canada printed this cartoon on June 7th 2005?


Or how about the Prosecuters in Chicago calling Mike Posner a glorified Pimp?

Club owners
were "pimps"


BY KATHY SCHAEFFER
Daily Herald Staff Writer

Federal prosecutors charged Friday that the owners of the RomanHouse nude dance club were "glorified
pimps" who ran a prostitution business for 10 years,
while a defense attorney countered that the
owners actually tried to prohibit sex between employees and customers. In closing arguments after the
two-week trial of Michael Posner and Sidney Muscovsky Friday, prosecutors Virginia Junewicz and
Mark Prosperi asked the jury to find Posner, 44, of Riverwoods, and Muscovsky, 55, of Glenview, guilty of racketeering, mail fraud and using interstate facilities for prostitution at the nude dancing club.
"You saw at least 20 different employees who participated in or saw sex going on in the back (of the
Roman House).
Sidney Muscovsky and Michael Posner cannot deny they didn't know what was going
on," Junewicz said, reminding jurors of previous testimony. The two were indicted in January in the Operation Safe Bet undercover probe of vice in the suburbs. The prosecutors say the evidence showed that between 1975 and 1984, Posner and Muscovsky hired nude dancers who also -"hustled" male customers by ,- persuading them ?, to buy numerous $82.50 bottles off. a non-alcoholic drink. In return, the
scantily clad women would sit with the' customers, hinting that they could have sex with them in the back
room of the club if they continued buying bottles, prosecutors charged. 'Muscovsky and Posner said they
had no knowledge that sex went on in the back room, and that a pitchdark
room with several love seats was for male customers to use to talk to the women. The two set up
and posted strict rules prohibiting the dancers and waitresses from having relations with customers,
they said. Michael Spilotro and his brother, Anthony, who were a part of the operation were subsequently murdered, and a Palentine, Illinois nightclub owner, Nick Stevens fled to Greece to escape charges

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"I lied and that's the truth"--Joran Van Der Sloot--
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ARUBAN MAFIA SOLD NATALEE TO SEX SLAVE TRADERS

Note From Rayelan:
This arrived in an email. I have no idea who sent it. I am posting it because it has "the ring of truth"!

Aruba is controlled by the sicilian mafia -- all judges are bought -- the judge in training - the boy's father, is part of the Cuntrera family - the sicilian mafia top dogs -- they control all of aruba - they control judges, police - and all intelligence -

The Cuntrera-Caruana Mafia-clan that control Aruba have been called the 'Rothschilds of the Mafia' or 'the bankers of Cosa Nostra'.

You can read more about them on this page: http://www.tni.org/archives/tblick/aruba.htm
Aruba was supposed to go independent in the mid 90s, but it was held up by the CIA. The CIA didn't want give them independence because the Aruban mafia wouldn't play by the rules... ANY rules... Aruba would have become another haiti -- a rich haiti! A haiti that could buy anyone and control anything!

Natalee was sold - The kids probably got her to drink some stuff -- maybe even the date rape stuff. She was probably raped by all three -- the kids realized when she woke up they would be in trouble so they contacted their friend... the DJ. The DJ is the connection to the mafia -- the kids went to him to get rid of her -- He probably made money selling her. I will bet the boat the DJ works on is a Cuntrera nightclub.

Natalee's not on Aruba - She was probably taken to Venezuela - probably sold into sexual slavery there. Or sold to the saudis. She is exactly the kind the Saudis like... blonde, tall, slim and beautiful. If they ever find her she won't be herself.

The texas ranger unit that has been sent to Aruba is an intel operation -- Nothing will come of any of this if they continue to think they way they are thinking now. You can't dig up intel and come up with anything this time.

The people who run Aruba are some of the baddest people in the world. If anyone tries to expose them, they will come and kill your whole family... maybe even your whole town! It's NOT worth it... they are more powerful than God -- In fact they ARE God... meaning they are working with the vatican -

They are a power unto themselves... they are NOT part of the NWO. They have aligned, over the years, with Faction Two. Remember "Lucky" Luciano. The Sicilian Mafia understands the new world order... it's the real Jewish Mafia. The Aruban mafia is so powerful that even the NWO leaves them alone! They make the Muslim terrorists look like Keystone Cops.

The only way Natalee will ever be returned is if someone is sacrificed, and I don't mean in the Santarian way like that decapitated body they found in the graveyard. Someone has to take the fall and it will probably be the DJ. He's nobody. The other kids are connected to families that have a modicum of power already and therefore can be used in the future.

If the DJ agrees to take the fall, his family will be taken care of and eventually he will be "disappeared" and one day "reappeared" with a new face and new identity. At least this is what he will be promised.

The way I see it, the intel unit, disguised as Texas Rangers COULD broker the deal if they wake up and realize what they're dealing with. Maybe they won't get their REAL orders til they get there! Right now their orders are to go in and gather intel. This is a joke. Our government knows exactly what's happened. They just don't know where Natalee has been taken.

If she was taken to Costa Rica she could be found because the CIA has assets there and in most other South American countries. The only country where the CIA assets have fled or been killed is Venezuela. If Natalee was sold into one of the Venezuelan sex houses, then no one can find her... except the same people who sold her... the Aruban mafia.

If the heat gets hot enough on Aruba. If the Mafia connection starts popping up in the MSM, that will be bad for business. The US is powerful enough to broker a deal to get Natalee back. What does the Aruban mafia want that President Bush can give them? Since no one will ever know that any kind of deal has ever taken place, it doesn't matter what they want. The hero will be some Aruban detective that traces Natalee to the nightclub ship and to "sex slave traders". No one will ever know the Mafia participation in her sale AND in her recovery!

If she was taken to Saudi Arabia, it will be tricky to get her back, but it could be done. All that would be needed is something to trade something that the Saudis want. If I had my way, I'd give the Saudis whatever they wanted in trade for Natalee, and follow it up with a Nuke! The Saudis are NOT our friends. All Muslim terrorism throughout the world originates from Saudi Arabia. They are the puppets of the City of London. They were created by the City of London!

Have to go.

Here's a blogger that seems to be getting some accurate info.
http://hyscience.typepad.(...)talee_hollowa_7.html

If I hear anymore, I will be in contact.


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Shango Says:
June 30th, 2005 at 2:36 am
Casanostra is standing at a window looking onto Babylon

casanostra Says:
June 30th, 2005 at 2:35 am
I picked the casanostra as a name after doing much research as to their relationship to the island of Aruba and the drug trade, as well as other things that go along with it. Do some googling and find out for yourself. I think that Natalee is alive and that there are people on the island, and those that pass through the island that no one wants to mess with. There lies the predicament. You have a criminal element more powerful than the authorities and a chess game is being played. I think Joran is being protected, but he is also guilty of something. Not murder, but leading Natalee into something very sinister. I apologize if my speculation is in any way disrespectful to she or her family, but I find this very intriguing and it goes much deeper than what is implied on television
"I lied and that's the truth"--Joran Van Der Sloot--
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Op vrijdag 10 oktober 2008 17:52 schreef bastibro het volgende:
Van der Eem zei op de vraag:

Jij weet wie Natalee in zee gedumpt heeft hè?

‘Dat is speculeren. Maar ik weet het wel. Joran heeft me in het begin een naam genoemd. Hij zei niet dat die jongen iets gedaan heeft, maar wel dat hij veel met hem omging. Toen ik die naam aan de politie op Aruba gaf, werden ze gek, omdat het hun eigen vermoedens bevestigde. Het waren twee namen. Eentje is de dag na het verdwijnen van Natalee vertrokken uit Aruba. Hij is een flikker uit een rijke familie. De politie vroeg me of Joran biseksuele neigingen heeft.’

De flikker is Wever, wie is de 2e persoon?


You know who dumped Natalee into the sea huh?

To this question van der Eem said:


"That is speculation.
But I do know.
In the very beginning Joran mentioned a name.
He didn`t say that the boy has done anything, but that he was hangin around a lot with him.
When I gave this name to the cops in Aruba, they went crazy, cause it confirmed their own suspicions. There were two names.
One has left Aruba the day after the disappearance of Natalee.
He is a faggot from a rich family.
The police asked me wether Joran has bisexual tendencies."

The fag is Wever, Who`s the other one?
Ja die flikker uit die rijke familie Moet Guido haast wel zijn
Die woont tegenwoordig in Den Haag en er zijn ook al foto's van hem op gedoken
Waarom vertrok hij zo snel van Aruba naar Nederland ? Als je op een paradijselijk eiland woont ?
Wanneer domme mensen domme dingen beweren, dan moet je ze niet corrigeren, maar glimlachend gelijk geven.
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Dan over Renee Gielen .
Ze roept al maanden lang dat ze een documentaire heeft gemaakt .
Het topstuk van dat filmpje is een uitdraai die ze toont en dat moet bewijzen dat Beth eerder aankwam dan ze zegt .Maar dit is al uitvoerig inderzocht door Dompig en Mos .
Een onscherp velletje papier waar je echt niks van kan lezen ,behalve dat je kan zien dat er 3 lettertypes op voorkomen .vreemde printer moet dat zijn
Alle documenten die er getoond en te zien zijn in deze zaak zijn ook te lezen ,behalve dit vodje van Rene Gielen .
Wat heeft het voor nut om met z'n onzinnig stukje papier aan te komen en er zelfs "New evidence"
bij te zetten als niemand kan zien wat er opstaat ?
Dus Renee Gielen of je showt ons een scherpe Kopie of je verwijdert je verhaaltjes en het Fake kopietje .Maar kom niet met dit soort Zooi aan !

Wanneer domme mensen domme dingen beweren, dan moet je ze niet corrigeren, maar glimlachend gelijk geven.
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Bye the way is Duikkie alive ?
Wanneer domme mensen domme dingen beweren, dan moet je ze niet corrigeren, maar glimlachend gelijk geven.
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Why is Dolf Stapele > Gielen's "Cameraman" with his 40$ supermarket camera equipment traveling together with the fam vd Sloot ?
Send he all the misinfo pics to the newspapers and magazines ?

Wanneer domme mensen domme dingen beweren, dan moet je ze niet corrigeren, maar glimlachend gelijk geven.
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"Send he"?
  zaterdag 11 oktober 2008 @ 17:25:16 #183
207372 bastibro
I`ll get there
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And that was not the only time he was with Joran.
He also went to Thailand with him . .



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Suspect Guido Wever
Arrested in May 2006 for suspicion of assisting in the murder, heavy battery, and kidnapping of Natalee Holloway

(Guido Wever seen here partying it up in Den Haag Holland)


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Guido fled Aruba 14 days after Natalee's dissapearance
Left behind his brand new Whte Nissan Sentra
Got off work early the night NH went missing and is most likely the white vehicle that was following JK2 and Natalee and driving erraticly after Carlos and Charlies
Skipped his Graduation from High School
Skipped out on his contract with the Excelsior Casino as a Croupier in Training
Good friend of Joran Van Der Sloot and Tennis partner
Wealthy and related to powerfull Aruban Politicians
Hired the popular Gerald Spong as his attorney who stated Guido could not be involved because he is Gay and wears makeup. Could not be sent to prison because he is Gay and would be in danger. Had a intimate relationship with Joran Van Der Sloot.
Went to court so his real name would not be mentioned in Jorans book..He won and was called Marco in the book

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Witnesses said he had long deep scratches on his face and bruises on his Body both at the Casino and his school. Five witnesses came forward at the casino and said this,some of the scratches were 3 inches long and he was acting very strange the day after Natalee Holloway went missing.
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Son of a political leader in Aruba and cousin of Arlene Shipper who was a spokesman for Aruba on TV supplied major misinformation to the American public and never mentioned she was related to him. Also rumored to be a relative of the corrupt and powerful Minister Candelerio Booshi Wever
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ERIC MARRAPODI, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER: Yes, Jane. What happened here was this young man, Guido W., as he was identified to me by his attorney, was brought into custody there in Holland. And the reason he was brought in -- a source very close to the investigation tells me tonight, the reason he was brought in is there were some inconsistencies in some statements made by Joran and the Kalpoe brothers early on in this investigation, in June.

Now, the other thing police wanted to know is his whereabouts that night Natalee disappeared. He was working there at the Excelsior casino, which is the casino there in the Holiday Inn. He got off early. That`s a new development we`re hearing tonight. Police wanted to know what happened after he got off early.

Now, the next day, in police statements, multiple sources have told us that Joran and Guido were hanging out, that they were together that day after Natalee Holloway disappeared.
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Quotes from his attorney and witnesses
The boy lived in Aruba and went to the Mon Plaisir School. The boy is also seen in the company of Natalee. He came to school with many scratches on his body.

The boy, according to testimony on May 30, 2005 have been at school with scratches and injuries on his face. He would also be part of the group who were arrested earlier.

On May 30, when Holloway was missing only a few hours, had to W. also work. 'He looked strange from,''recalls an employee of the Aruban casino itself. ,, He came within worrisome.''

The student became a suspect after five witnesses claimed to have seen him with deep scratches on his face that could have come from fingernails, and because of what Aruban prosecutors viewed as his hasty departure from the island last June, his lawyer said.
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Son of Robert Wever the chairman of the Aliansa / MSA Allianza political party in Aruba.


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Hmm a Robert Wever and a Booshi both involved in the National Labratory in Aruba? Maiky Farro is in Prison for his involvement in this scam of fraud of stealing millions for his involvement. Of course Candelerio Booshi Wever got away with transporting cocaine from Venezuela and runs Whore Houses there so its no suprise he got away with this as well.

STEPS Aruba 2006
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Robert Wever, PhD. from the National. Laboratory coordinated all the biochemical analyses. We thank all the above mentioned individuals and all the other ...
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Cousin of Aruban Spokesman Arlene Shipper. Who was constantly on TV providing misinformation about the case while failing to mention she was related to one of the suspects.


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"I lied and that's the truth"--Joran Van Der Sloot--
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More info on Guido Wever

These Dutch articles say he fled to Canada after Aruba Hmmm isn't that where the sicilian Mob is headquartered that owns and operates so much in Aruba? Canada is this correct? Did he go there a few days before going to Den Haag?

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The arrested boy is Guido Wever, he has been detained and interrogated in the Netherlands. He is Aruba moved to Canada 14 days after Natalee disappeared. He was a croupier at the Holliday Inn and Casino has previously interrogated by the Aruban police. According to his lawyer Spong, the boy suspected of "complicity in murder, grievous bodily injury and deprivation of liberty of Natalee Holloway.

The boy lived in Aruba and went to the Mon Plaisir School. The boy is also seen in the company of Natalee. He came to school with a lot of scratches on his body. The boy was almost done with school and would continue studying in the Netherlands. He asked his parents if he was allowed to Canada earlier. He was on two weeks after finished school when he heard of his possible arrest and then fled to the Netherlands.

The boy, according to witness testimony on May 30, 2005 have been at school with scratches and injuries on his face. He would also be part of the group who were arrested earlier.
W. worked a few days in the casino,He left in June to Canada to study.
He was previously interrogated as a witness, 3x by the Aruban police and twice by the Dutch police.

Gerard Spong, the boy's lawyer, told the NOS news that the suspect is a friend of Joran van der Sloot - those are certain that he Natalee was last seen. Van der Sloot says he left Holloway alone on the beach after her gezoend to have.

(Source: Awemainta & arubadirtypolice)
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The Algemeen Dagblad will publish this morning:

Quote:
The Utrecht police last week a former croupier arrested on suspicion of kidnapping and murder of Natalee Holloway on Aruba. Gerard Spong, lawyer of the suspect, a span today interim measures to prevent extradition to Aruba.

The suspect, Guido W., is a Dutchman who lived in Aruba at the time of the loss of Holloway. W. Is a tennismaatje of Joran van der Sloot and worked three months as a trainee croupier at the casino in the hotel where Holloway stayed. On May 30, when Holloway was missing only a few hours, was W. Also work. "He looked strange,''recalls a member of the Aruban casino itself.,, He came within worrisome.''

W. Worked a few days in the casino, but was previously on a dangepland. He departed in June to Canada to study. After Holloway's disappearance is W. Several times in Aruba and the Netherlands, heard as a witness.

Holloway came during her vacation on Aruba often in the casino. Even on the last evening that she was seen alive, she was there. They with when Van der Sloot, who still is suspected of involvement in Holloway's disappearance. But he is due to a lack of evidence on free feet. The arrest of Guido W. Took place at the request of the Public Prosecutor's Office (OM) in Aruba. The suspect is stuck in Utrecht.
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Meisje vermist op Aruba #9 - Zoektochten geen resultaat (translated)

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Lawyer: Natalee Holloway Suspect 'Is Gay'

Tuesday , May 23, 2006
Fox News

AMSTERDAM, Netherlands The lawyer for 19-year-old Guido Wever, the latest person to be arrested and released in connection with the disappearance of American teen Nataleee Holloway, said Tuesday that his client did not make a good suspect because he is gay.

Spong said that W. Aruba should not be extradited because he is scared as a homosexual in jail 'traumatic experiences' to do.

Justice W. wanted to Aruba to reach the island because the possible crimes committed there. W. is suspected of complicity to murder or manslaughter or grievous bodily harm to Natalee Holloway.

'My client is gay," lawyer Gerard Spong told FOX News, adding that Wever sometimes wears makeup.
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Gerald,did it occur to you your client wore makeup to conceal the deep long scratches on his face that he had the day after Natalee went missing?? What was the meeting with Mike Posner all about after Natalee Holloway went missing? What did Guido do when he got off early the night of May 29th 2005? Is it really a mystery who owned the white car that was driving erraticly and following JK2 and Natalee after Carlos and Charlies? Is there a connection with the large bruise on Jorans face and the long scratches on Guido's face? Is this why prosecuters arrested Guido on suspicion of Heavy Battery?

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"I lied and that's the truth"--Joran Van Der Sloot--
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207372 bastibro
I`ll get there
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The print on his t-shirt says a lot too . .


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Slecht argument waarom hij er niet bij betrokken zou kunnen zijn.
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quote:
Op zaterdag 11 oktober 2008 12:08 schreef johan555 het volgende:
Bye the way is Duikkie alive ?
ja hoor alleen zeer weinig tijd , vanaf 15 november alles weer rustig en lees ik wel weer bij, wat onze engelstalige vriend allemaal geschreven of """heeft.

tot die tijd wacht in nog in spaning af of het verhaal van die nieuwe getuigen nog overeind staat, daar lees ik niets meer van, ook onze avonturen van onze man van de oceaan, duikt nergens meer op
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207372 bastibro
I`ll get there
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Op dit moment is men bezig om 2 getuigen van de gebeurtenissen de nacht dat Natalee verdween naar de VS te vliegen.
Zij zullen daar nogmaals verklaren over wat zij die nacht hebben gezien, deze keer aan de leugendetector.
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June 6th 2007

Julia Renfro states before hand that Joran will be released on June 6th and on the same day Awemainta Newspaper shows Paul and Anita Van Der Sloot celebrating at a cocktail party from a few days before that. They certainly don't seem to be to concerned that there son is in prison facing murder charges. How did they know the judges decision in advanced? Was the newspaper article to rub it in everyone face? It was a bit premature as Joran was released the next day.





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June 7th 2007 Pictures from Jorans release from the KIA on June 7th 2007 and his Italian Mob NYC defense team in Aruba celebrating with the Van Der Sloots. Now why would Joe Tacopina a American be in charge/managing his Defense team in Aruba?






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"I lied and that's the truth"--Joran Van Der Sloot--
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How many people are caught lying about why the Van Der Sloot property was not searched after both Paul Van Der Sloot and his son were both arrested for suspicion of Rape,Kidnapping and Murder?



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Police Commissioner Dompig claims he was denied being able to search the Van Der Sloot property twice

10/10/05 Big Story
Reporter: Okay, let me ask you about the search of Joran Van der Sloot house. Apparently this kid lived in an apartment that was connected to or sort of adjacent to his parents house.

Dompig: That is correct

Reporter: And the police only searched his apartment, deputy chief?

Dompig: That is correct. The fact is that we as a law enforcement agency always try to get the maximum. Meaning that we want to search as much places as possible. We were not granted by the judge a search warrant for the complete house, we only received the warrant for the apartment.

Reporter: But what about after Paul Van der Sloot was arrested, couldn’t you get a warrant to search the house then?

Dompig: It was also denied, we were a bit disappointed with that. The judge was coming from another island I must point out. He said we didn’t make a good enough case to get a warrant.
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Judge Bob With Interview Bon Dia Newspaper December 2007
(Judge Bob Wit claims the Dompid obstructed the Investigation so the Van Der Sloots could have privacy and the OM never asked to search anything more then Jorans Apartment)

On Aruba the Chief of investigation in the time when Gerald Dompig was the Head Commissar, did not approve of the search of the house of the parents of Van Der Sloot as part of the investigation and had obstructed the investigation

The impression was given also because it was the deal of a functionnaire(Dompig) who was learning to become Head, felt he had to protect the privacy of the family. Paul van der Sloot, father of Joran van der Sloot after having become a suspect in the case.


At no moment did the OM ask to search more then that.
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More on the search of the Van Der Sloot home
Natalee's Freebirds

JUDGE ROBERT WIT OBSTRUCTS THE GATHERING OF EVIDENCE

Joran van der Sloot was arrested on June 9, 2005 and a search warrant was issued for a complete search of the Van der Sloot residence and property six days later on June 15th. When the prosecution and police teams arrived to search the home they were met at the door by Dutch judge Robert Wit who summarily change the search warrant on the spot to exclude the Van der Sloot main residence and grounds, limiting the search only to Jorans small apartment in the back of the house.

Judge Wit blocked the search of the van der Sloot residence even though he knew through Joran's police statements that he said he was in the main house in the early morning hours when he returned home after supposedly dropping Ms. Holloway off. In other words, Judge Wit ignored testimony by a key suspect to obstruct the collection of evidence from the suspect's residence.

Joran was arrested twice and his father was arrested once in the first month of the investigation. The main residence of the Van der Sloot home was never searched after either of these arrests.

Beth Twitty
FOX NEWS LIVE DESK with Martha MacCallum - Nov. 28/06

BETH: Well I think they will always have to look at there were two personnel involved from the Aruban Justice Department and that is why we don?t have any evidence and thats what Jorans attorney will have to be reminded of. Its because of Bob Witt and Ben King stopped the search warrants. It was made to initially search the entire area of Montanja 19 the garden, the buildings and everything but on the spot high ranking employee of the Justice Office Bob Witt reduced the search warrant to only the room of Joran so thats why we dont have any evidence because of involvement of the obstruction from the Aruban Justice Department personnel.


Judge Wit did this knowing that Joran had given statements that he was in the main house the night and morning Natalee Holloway went missing, and there may have been evidence to be obtained within. Judge Wit was assisted by Ben Vocking, a high ranking official in the Aruba Prosecutor?s office who had taken a leave of absence to take care of his friend Paulus van der Sloot during his ?time of need.?


PETER DEVRIES
GRETA VAN SUSTEREN (FOX NEWS) November 27, 2006

VAN SUSTEREN: What about the search of the van der Sloot property? Was that ever done, and was, you know--including, sort of, the cabana area where Joran lives?

DE VRIES: Well, the search in the home address of the family Van der Sloot was very strange because the search warrant was made by head prosecutor Karin Janssen, and contained an allowance to search the whole address,Montanja nineteen So, the gardens, the buildings--everything. But, when the police was on the spot, another high-ranking employee of the Justice office--it was Mr. Bob Witt--reduced the search warrant to only the room of Joran--and that was very strange.


PETER DEVRIES
THE ROBERT JENSEN SHOW (HOLLAND) November 28, 2006

DEVRIES: Yes the police missed several changes to do things right: when they wanted to search the house the door was opened by Mr. Ben King, an assistant of the Procurements Gen. office, the highest justice-office on the island, and a friend of the family who wanted to support the VdSloots in these difficult times? So clearly the search of the house hadnt been a surprise to the VdSloots. And the police had a warrant for the complete estate but a judge - Bob Wit - who was at the house as well said only Joran's room could be searched.


These are things a Dutch crime-reporter is of course totaly astonished about. Justice Department official Ben King, who later admitted to the media that he was a close friend of Paulus Van der Sloot, claimed he was on vacation and therefore not acting on behalf of the Justice department. It was King who personally informed the search team they could only search the small apartment of Joran Van Der Sloot, located in the back yard of the property just behind the main residence, when they arrived.

Also present at the Van Der Sloot residence was Dutch Judge Bob Witt from Curacao, who was one judge presiding over the case. It should be noted that Paulus Van der Sloot was a Dutch judge-in-training at the time of Natalee Holloway?s disappearance.

By limiting the search of the van der Sloot residence and property, Judge Wit obstructed justice by inhibiting the collecting of evidence and should be removed from the bench, and charged with this crime, before he causes even more damage within the Dutch judicial system.

We will also note here that two innocent black security guards were arrested for the crime four days before Joran was detained. The judge did not limit the search when they were paraded before the media while the Prosecutor and Police ransacked their full residences. The two guards were later released but not before the Dutch judge had made sure their lives were made miserable.

How ironic that the Dutch judges had no consideration for two black security guards who were arrested for a crime they had nothing to do with, and yet had time to block the search of a fellow white Dutch compatriot whose son, Joran van der Sloot, is still to this day the main suspect in the disappearance and murder of Natalee Holloway.


COLLUSION BETWEEN A DUTCH JUDGE AND THE ARUBA GOVERNMENT

Under Dutch law it is optional for a judge to attend the search of a suspect's house. We found no evidence one had been present at the security guards' homes when they were raided. Yet, we find Judge Bob Wit not only attending the search of the van der sloot home but already in the house when the search team arrives, destroying any element of surprise the authorities may have gained.

At the van der Sloot residence with Judge Wit was a high ranking official of the Aruba Prosecutor's office, Ben Vocking, who served as the Head of the Department of Prosecutor Support. The Prosecutor, Karin Jannsen at the time, is the very person who called for a search warrant so it is safe to assume both Judge Bob Wit and Ben Vocking had inside information into the search and many other aspects of the case. Vocking had taken a leave of absence the day after Natalee Holloway disappeared to be with his friend Paulus van der Sloot in his time of need. Clearly this is yet another conflict of interest between the government and the suspect in the case, Joran van der Sloot.

But the fact that Judge Bob Wit was at the home with government official Ben Vocking when the search party arrived raises even deeper questions about collusion between the judiciary and goverment. Certainly a judge does not go to a home and greet the suspects and inform them of an impending search before the authorities arrive. This would go against the grain of any effective investigation and curry favor to the suspect. Should the judge have not been with the Prosecutor and Police when they arrived at the house? Why was Judge Bob Wit already in the house?

All of this suggests collusion between a Dutch judge and a high ranking official from the Aruba Prosecutor's office to obstruct justice in the Natalee Holloway case.
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EDITOR JOSSY MANSUR OF DIARIO NEWSPAPER
NANCY GRACE October 4, 2005

GRACE: Jossy, regarding the connection, what I perceived to be a close connection between the judge, Paulus Van Der Sloot and the retired chief of police who initially handled Natalee`s case, Van Der Stratten, were they friends?

MANSUR:Of course, they were friends. It stands to reason they were friends because Paul Van Der Sloot had many friends within the police department; he had many friends within the Department of Justice. And he had many friends with -- and he was friendly with all the judges in Aruba. He worked out of the same office as they did and did the same work.

Such a close working relationship with the Dutch judges during his training created an obvious conflict of interest when his son, and he himself, became implicated in the disappearance and very possible murder of Natalee Holloway. The Dutch Judicial system in Holland should have recognized such an obvious hazard to justice but chose to do nothing, allowing friends and acquaintances of van der Sloot to preside over the court hearings of both Paulus and his son.

The outcome of the judges rulings in the Natalee Holloway case have cast a dark shadow over the Dutch judicial system. It should be noted that Paulus van der Sloot was also arrested in the case for conspiracy to commit murder, and these same judges ruled on his case as well. The end result, as one might expect, is that both van der Sloots were freed from prosecution. It is apparent from all the rulings in the case that the Dutch cannot police their own, justice be damned.

A SERIOUS CONFLICT OF INTEREST

The courts in all of the Netherland Antilles are managed and executed from Holland, where judges are sent to the islands to preside over the judicial proceedings of Aruba, Curacao, and Bonaire. Paulus van der Sloot, father of the prime suspect in Natalee Holloways disappearance, was a judge-in-training in this very judicial system, working alongside and making the acquaintance of the judges in the Dutch system. Indeed, it has been reported that some of these judges were very close friends outside the official duties of the courts.
Judge Bob Wit intervened again eight days later when Joran’s father Paulus Van Der Sloot was arrested for reasonable suspicion in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway, once again blocking a search of the Van Der Sloot home. Without question Bob Wit knew Paulus van der Sloot - they worked on cases together and appear to be very good friends judging from such an outrageous ruling. Since when do arrested murder suspects get immunity from having their houses searched? Judge Bob Wit needs to answer this question in the open forum of the Caribbean Court of Justice, rather than hide behind the opaque wall of Dutch law
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THE HOUSE SEARCH-Peter De Vries Research
Translated by liesbeth

(49.12 min) From our investigations on the island appeared that there was a lot of frustration with the local criminal investigators by the way the house search is performed at the residence of the main suspect, Joran van der Sloot. When the criminal investigators at 23 June 2005 unannounced arrived with a search warrant at the VanderSloot residence, the door was to their utter amazement not opened by Joran or his father, but by Mr. Ben King, the right hand of Mr. Croes Fernandez. This high ranked official appears to be a good friend of the family. He was staying in the house of VanderSloot and the criminal investigators assume that the house search was not a surprise for them anymore. King explains the criminal investigators that he wants to help this family, also in these hard times.

(50.18 min) The incident gives the criminal investigators the impression there is an outrageous conflict of interest between the Judge in training VanderSloot and the public prosecutor. But, that was not the only thing what happened, because after the unexpected confrontation with official King, Mr. Bob Wit, who was in charge of the investigation, arranged another setback.
The criminal investigators were waiting in front of the house with employees of the forensic laboratory. The order for search warrant concerned the address HuhHuh: the complete section. But on site, Mr. Wit decided that only this small apartment of Joran in the garden was allowed to be investigated. So, not the whole section and the rest of the house, what is what the police wanted to do.

(51.19 min) The criminal investigation department on Aruba calls the action of the judge commissioner incomprehensible, and experienced this setback as a failure of the first order. Joran had explained that he had been that night at the house, and he appeared to have lied on vital points. Reasons enough for an extended search, but the being ready criminal investigation team, got suddenly almost literally, no meter space.

(52.03 min) The investigation into the disappearance of Natalee Holloway knows an almost bizarre enumeration of failures and blunders. Arguments between the head officer and the procurer general. A high justice civil servant who, as a good friend of the suspected family Van der Sloot, travels ahead of the searching team, and stays in the house of the family. A search warrant, which is restricted to a minimum. And interrogations of the main suspect, which are, according to the criminal investigation team, frustrated because his father has, as a judge in training, access to the facts.

VAN SUSTEREN: What about the search of the van der Sloot property? Was that ever done, and was, you know--including, sort of, the cabana area where Joran lives?

de VRIES: Well, the search in the home address of the family van der Sloot was very strange because the search warrant was made by head prosecutor Karin Janssen, and contained an allowance to search the whole address, “Montanja-nineteen.“
So, the gardens, the buildings--everything.
But, when the police was on the spot, another high-ranking employee of the Justice office--it was Mr. Bob Witt--reduced the search warrant to only the room of Joran--and that was very strange.
The police was extremely frustrated about this because they had some clues that something might have happened to Natalee elsewhere in the garden, or, in the house of the parents because Joran admits that he had been with Natalee, and Deepak, and Satish at the home of his parents.
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(Ben King shown here with JVDS to give DNA samples,which were later ruled to be destroyed because of errors made by the OM)
P165 From Joran's Book (Ben King finds humor in the search of the house) Does he also crack jokes that Joran's DNA tests were destroyed?

Wednesday Jun 15th, 2005

Later I learn from my parents that they have searched the house. Suddenly their appears a large number of police, detectives and press at our doorstep.

Ben King, a good friend of my dad, is visiting us with his wife. We?ve known him for already 15 years and my mother and his wife are best friends. I've also spent a few year at primary school together with their eldest daughter. He has taken up 2 weeks of holiday, just to ensure not to mix up his work with private matters. He works as a strategist at the public prosecution office, however is a non-legal person involved in totally different matters than the Holloway-case.

Our house is fenced of with a red-white police ribbon. The press tries to record everything with huge cameras from a large distance. Theyre shamelessly hanging over the wall in an attempt to take some good shots. My parents stay away from the cameras as much as they can.

The detectives were supposed to keep a list of everything they take, however they dont do that. Men dressed in white suits, a kind of astronauts, walk in my room and through the garden. There are also folk with two dogs that sniff around in the garden. Our own dogs have to be lashed.

Ben and his wife even make some jokes. My mother went out with the dogs a few days earlier and the trunk of her jeep is full of dog hairs. That will at least keep them busy for a while when they start searching for hair and you probably get a very clean car in return, after all the vacuum cleaning. Sometimes humor in this situation is the best way to survive.

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"I lied and that's the truth"--Joran Van Der Sloot--
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"We have a civilized society. We have a decent law system. We can't book people when we want ... We can't rush in like a bunch of cowboys," The Island police "are doing a hell of a job." Karen Janssen

But thats exactly what they did when they tried to frame two innocent men for Natalee's murder.
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June 1st 2005- Family of Natalee Holloway and Police officials reviewed tapes of the Holiday Inn showing that KJ2 were lying when they said they dropped Natalee Holloway off there the morning she went missing. But still the suspects remained free for another 8 more days to destroy evidence,cover up what they did with Natalee Holloway and most importantly finish there final exams.

June 5th 2005 Police official arrested Mickey Johns and Abraham Jones based on lies by the real suspects and Gerald Dompigs drug dealing brother in law who said he saw them steal items out of the Mountain Brook students room.(Later he is a star witness again when he says he saw Natalee with Cocaine)

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Both of these innocent men had there clothes,cars and homes forensicly searched and it happened immediately



Karin Janssen's Boss explains what happened
Dear Mr. Van Nie,

I read again on your website, that amongst others, I as the Aruban PG, supposed to have ruined the investigation in the crucial first ten days.
I told you before this is not in accordance with the truth I and request you to stop announcing inaccuracies.

I will tell you once again what really happened. Natalee disappeared in the night of 29 and 30 May 2005. I was in Holland up to and including the 6th of June, the first eight days after the disappearance.

I contacted Karin Jansen by phones during these days and I told her that she had to arrest the three boys who were seen with her last. Her answer was that the three had to be tapped first because otherwise the police had nothing to interrogate the boys.

When I arrived on Aruba I told her again she had to arrest those boys. Her answer was that they were waiting for video material from Holland, because the interrogations were supposed to be recorded on video. Interrogations were never before recorded on video on Aruba.
Why this had to happen now, could not be explained to me. I was against it, because never before interrogations were recorded on video and the police had no experience with this way of interrogate.

What you do know too, I was accused of being guilty of the first 10 disastrous days, while I had nothing to do with it. The first eight days I was not even on Aruba. The hovj Jansen replaced me as replacing P-G and she made the decision. During the investigation I never contacted VanderStraaten, not personally or by phone.

I was never informed by hovj Jansen about the intended arrest of the security guards.
I saw this on Dutch television. One never made clear to me why the two guards had to be arrested, because there was not one indication of their involvement in the disappearance of Natalee. They have never been tapped to have something to interrogate either.
I would appreciate it if you place a rectification on your website and stop telling inaccuracies on your website in the future.

Mr. Drs. T.D. Croes.
http://www.renevannie.com/inhoud/kritisch/_kritisch.html
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June 14th Interview with Micky John and his ATTY

Micky says he never got a reason why he was arrested until today. Micky confirms that they were trying to set someone up and he and his colleague were the unfortunate ones.
http://tinyurl.com/3xpjsu

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Several Dutch criminal law experts have gone on the record calling the investigation methods “strange and unprofessional” and the investigation itself “total madness.”

The Media says there were blunders,mistakes and idiots running the Investigation. But that can't be true when all 3 of the people below have a ton of experience,fbi trained and was a prosecuter for over 12 years. Plus they blocked the FBI from taking part in anything in the Investigation

The truth is the Investigation was run by Paul Van Der Sloots Best Friend,A cousin of the Kalpoes Brothers,Friends of the suspects parents and everwhere you looked there was a enormous amount of conflict of interest. The mistakes were deliberate,intentional,planned and it's a definite cover up.




Karin Janssen is awarded the Women of the Year in Aruba in Aruba in 2005 and now has the same position in Holland.



Gerald Dompig received several awards,starts his own security company and is now running for high ranking positions in Aruba.


Jan Van Der Straten is awarded the Police Commissioner in Bonaire and now has political aspiration in the Netherlands Antilles.


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But if you ask Hans Mos(Cover up PR Man)..He will tell you it's the safest island in the carribean,100% of the murder cases are solved and it was the parents of Natalee and the American Media who obstructed the Investigation.And also that Paul Van Der Sloot is a kind gentle man





[ Bericht 3% gewijzigd door observer777 op 14-10-2008 03:51:21 ]
"I lied and that's the truth"--Joran Van Der Sloot--
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volgens mij is observer een beetje geobserdeerd en heeft ie verder geen leven.
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Op dinsdag 14 oktober 2008 13:42 schreef princemm het volgende:
volgens mij is observer een beetje geobserdeerd en heeft ie verder geen leven.
Dan heb je het volledig mis price
hij doet al jarenlang onderzoek en weet alles van deze zaak
gelukkig maar dat er mensen zijn die er veel tijd in steken
want .... de politie doet het niet !!!!!!!!!!

Je ziet nu ook weer met de verdwijning van Marlies vd Kouwe op Bonaire
De politie gaat na 1 1/2 dag eens een keertje zoeken
Te gek voor woorden
De bewakers zagen die nacht dat ze van haar fiets getrokken werd ,ze bellen de polite maar die ondernemen Niets !
Wanneer domme mensen domme dingen beweren, dan moet je ze niet corrigeren, maar glimlachend gelijk geven.
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Op dinsdag 14 oktober 2008 20:42 schreef johan555 het volgende:

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Dan heb je het volledig mis price
hij doet al jarenlang onderzoek en weet alles van deze zaak
gelukkig maar dat er mensen zijn die er veel tijd in steken
want .... de politie doet het niet !!!!!!!!!!

Je ziet nu ook weer met de verdwijning van Marlies vd Kouwe op Bonaire
De politie gaat na 1 1/2 dag eens een keertje zoeken
Te gek voor woorden
De bewakers zagen die nacht dat ze van haar fiets getrokken werd ,ze bellen de polite maar die ondernemen Niets !
wat joran kan , kan toch indereen in dat stukje paradijs , ik denk alleen dat deze zaak na een paar maanden uitstreft , terwijl die van natalee blijft leven , is dat effe dikke pech voor JORAN van der SLOOT
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Op maandag 13 oktober 2008 13:57 schreef bastibro het volgende:
Op dit moment is men bezig om 2 getuigen van de gebeurtenissen de nacht dat Natalee verdween naar de VS te vliegen.
Zij zullen daar nogmaals verklaren over wat zij die nacht hebben gezien, deze keer aan de leugendetector.
schiet je echt niets mee op, het moet vanuit aruba of nederland uitgaan. in de vs geloven ze in leugendetectors en ze zullen best gelooft worden. maar als aruba politie het niet wilt geloven sta je met lege handen en sluiten ze zonder goed ( houdend in rechtzaal) deze zaak voor de tweede keer eind van het jaar !!!

of peter r de vries moet nog wat geheims gedaan hebben de kalpoes in de hoofdrol of paul van der sloot ten kantore pratend over hoe ze de perfecte vermissing/moord hebben kunnen plegen met hulp van de locale overheid
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Mos heeft wel verklaard dat wat de vorige getuige (pond) vertelde de waarheid was .
Wanneer domme mensen domme dingen beweren, dan moet je ze niet corrigeren, maar glimlachend gelijk geven.
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Volgens mij zit het PrdV team al een heel tijdje op Aruba .
En daar zullen ze niet voor niks zitten
Peter zelf natuurlijk niet ,die valt teveel op
Wanneer domme mensen domme dingen beweren, dan moet je ze niet corrigeren, maar glimlachend gelijk geven.
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Op woensdag 15 oktober 2008 10:32 schreef johan555 het volgende:
Mos heeft wel verklaard dat wat de vorige getuige (pond) vertelde de waarheid was .
over welke getuigen hebben we het ?? de laaste met paul en joran na 3:30 met auto rondrijden en joran half verzopen lopend onder bouwlamp lantaarn paal

of hebben we het over de tuinman met zijn wagen bij de pond die ze leeg gezogen hebben
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Op woensdag 15 oktober 2008 17:44 schreef duikkie het volgende:

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over welke getuigen hebben we het ?? de laaste met paul en joran na 3:30 met auto rondrijden en joran half verzopen lopend onder bouwlamp lantaarn paal

of hebben we het over de tuinman met zijn wagen bij de pond die ze leeg gezogen hebben
He is talking about the new witness that saw Joran and PVDS near the Montserat Pond. Joran was covered in Mud,missing a shoe and he saw PVDS pick him up in the Red Jeep at 4AM. As you know he passed all the Polygraphs in the U.S. A month ago or so Tim Miller/TES went to Aruba to ask for permission to search that same Pond and Hans Mos denied him. We know the Pond was already searched months ago in Aruba as we have pictures proving that.

As you posted there are two more witnesses from the night NH dissapeared that may be coming to the U.S. to take polygraph tests.
"I lied and that's the truth"--Joran Van Der Sloot--
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